No Indexing Head...Not a problem - Take a look

[@billdlv]

Great tips, would be interested in which flavor of VHB tape you are using. Also great suggestion on checking your collet blocks, it's possible when they are ground that the points which rest on the base of the vise are not all the same distance to center. I measured mine and it is around 0.001 which is plenty good for the things I'm doing.

[@joepie221]

I have 4930, 70-0160-2961-6 and 4950, 70-0160-2962-4. The 4930 is .026 thick and the 4950 is .045. My exposure to the entire line is limited, so there may be thinner. Be careful how much of this you use, it is really strong.

[@billdlv]

Thanks for the reply. Where I used to work they had $$ and we used transfer adhesive 9469 which is only 5 mil thick. We also used another 3m double back tape and I don't remember the # which is why I posted the comment. I've had good results for rough work with polyken 105C which is 11 mils and is inexpensive.

[@tesladrummer]

465 and 467 are good choices and .002" thick. The 465 has glass fiber interwoven with the adhesive which makes it tend to peel off without tearing. The 467 is solvent resistant and may hold up better with coolant. Here is a link to McMaster-Carr's adhesive transfer tape page: www.mcmaster.com/#adhesive-transfer-tape/=19s264m 467 1/2"x60yd is ~$13 vs 493 1/2"x5yd for ~$23.

[@mcdowell356]

brs_workshop ,

[@daxtonlukas8892]

Instablaster

[@johnathanjones6152]

Im a Machinist with 11 years in shops, you teach me new stuff all the time! Thank you !!

[@joepie221]

Excellent. You have to keep learning. Especially in this trade.

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

As always useful information that you don't see any place else. Thanks for the video.

[@kyleoglee]

As a self taught hobby machinist, I find your videos so valuable! I just want to offer my thanks to you for offering up your vast knowledge. Much appreciated sir! Liked, subbed, and am enjoying each one more than the last.

[@joepie221]

Thanks. Fly safe.

[@cobiaslayer683]

Joe you have an unlimited bag of tricks up your sleeve. I greatly appreciate all the videos that you make and share your knowledge

[@hootinouts]

Joe, thank you for sharing your expertise. I'm a veteran machinist who left the field many years ago but am slowly building a small home machine shop. Since I have no plans on using my equipment for profit I cannot justify purchasing expensive accessories like a dividing head. A few years ago, before I came across your wonderful video here, I was conceptualizing something in the order of your pin indexer and now I know that I am on the right track. I want to apply the same principal to something akin to a sine plate for orienting flat work pieces in my milling machine vise. God willing, I will get to make this and share it on KZbin.

[@johnmann8662]

Where were you when I was 18? I'm over 70 now and it looks like I wasted 50 years doing dumb things to accomplish end results that you make look so easy. "Why didn't I think of that!" Another great video chock full of cool ideas Joe. Keep em coming! Thanks for sharing, and happy new year to you and yours too!

[@chexstix]

Joe, these videos are reliably great fun to watch and super educational. Thanks for making them!

[@armdaMan]

Hello there Cap'n Another ingenious solution for a manual machinist. Brilliant. We reiterate, we never stop learning from U. Thanks a zillion for showing and sharing ATB For 2018 as well aRM

[@joepie221]

Hey guys, good to hear from you. Thanks for checking in.

[@patwicker1358]

Another practical way of doing things that even us guys in hobby shops can use. Thank you!!

[@Reman1975]

Seeing you do this brings forth a memory from years ago. A mate used to have a little jobbing workshop, and one customer used to come in a few weeks before Christmas every year and order the same 24 identical parts. All they were was around 4" long lengths of chunky stainless threaded rod, that had a square of spanner flats milled onto one end. It seems they were used as shaft tensioners in some sort of industrial conveyer fed bread baking oven. One time I watched my mate make some of them. He grabbed a 4" square slab of pig iron plate he'd made several years earlier, and a big nut. The plate had a threaded hole through it's centre. He screwed that onto a length "All thread", and used the nut as a locknut to immobilise this plate. He then used that to align the threaded rod in a really large v block he'd bolted to his mill's table, before clamping everything down . The thing is, he wasn't using the flats of this square as reference, he was just rotating the threaded rod until a corner of the plate touched his mill table. For some reason this way of indexing a part just felt so wrong to me, but I couldn't explain why. I 've since realise that they were just one of those "ah, that'll be good enough" class of jobs that didn't have to be NASA grade accurate, just close enough to work and look presentable. His method was VERY quick, easy, and acurate as it needed to be, but It still has the strong odor of wrongness about it though. :)

[@charliespann3967]

Another great video. Lots of good ideas. My fav. is the rubber band on the adjustable parallel . I've been fighting them for years. Thanks again.

[@thefixerman1]

Thanks Joe for another very well presented video with excellent ideas to help us all in the machine shop. Really appreciated.

[@hebrewhammer1000]

Thank you very much for your thorough and in-depth explanations. Looking forwarded to the next video.

[@bkoholliston]

That rubber band trick is great! Even if you are still going to indicate it in, the adjustable parallel will get you very close. Eyeballing it, especially if you have already cut part of the polygon is confusing. Looking forward to making the little plate too.

[@madsighntist14]

Joe, you Just Answered the question facing me at this Moment! 67 YO, and going back to my Machining Hobby after gone for 12 Years, Thanks! philip from the Great Pacific NorthWET.

[@stanwooddave9758]

Thank you so much for taking the time to shoot, edit, upload your idea's and to share with the world of youtube.

[@bernhard5741]

Excellent video! Lots of very useful information. I also appreciate your clear, concise and easy to follow presentation. Your vids are a joy to watch...and being a hobby machinist I am learning alot. Now waiting for your next video! Thank you! Bernhard

[@Hix-Design]

Joe, that plate idea is inspired. From a simple CAD design, I can now come up with all manner of indexing plates. No need to fork out for a dividing head now. Great work man :)

[@nhrifle]

I hope your video series is cataloged somewhere entitled "How To Be A Machinist". The knowledge here must never be forgotten.

[@joepie221]

Thanks. Once you grasp it, teach someone else and it won't be.

[@FredMiller]

What a cool indexing method! Thanks for sharing Joe.

[@FieryWACO]

Thanks, Joe. Your tips make me look good in the shop.

[@IgotHeliFever]

Thank You! Your explanation was straight forward, in plain english, very easy to understand & for the first time I actually understand Indexing ! I Get It : ) : ) Forgot to tell you I lived in Austin for over 10 yrs in late 80's early 90's but am Texan born & Raised in Houston-Cleveland Tx area.

[@MadeInGreatBritain]

Every day is a school day. Every video of yours I watch, I learn something new

[@heraldpotgieter2443]

I recently made an indexing plate based on your video. I am very pleased with the outcome as the first part I made was a booboo. Thanks for for your tutorials.

[@quinka2]

Joe, your incredible, I been in it for 45 years and you always impress me with things I never dreamed of! Thanks Joe

[@joepie221]

Thank you.

[@beydlercnc]

I enjoy these videos. Always learning the repetitive things to stay sharp and in the game. Keep them coming!

[@murdoch817]

Very clever, great job. I do have a spindexer but I am going to make one these as well. He who departs this world with the most tools wins. Plus I like to make my own tools and this is just a perfect project. Thanks for imparting your skill and secrets.

[@4kedhorn]

Joe, I asked you about this recently and I appreciate getting this up here and giving me some ideas so quickly. Thank you. I also (finally) got around to making an angle plate you have a video about using 2 holes and a little trig. Thanks again for that invaluable idea!

[@joepie221]

Outstanding. Take the concepts I present and make them your own. I try to light the fire. You keep it lit.

[@4kedhorn]

Will do!

[@ChrisB257]

Thanks Joe - you are a mine of great suggestions. Love that mini divide plate. :)

[@luckenbachmachineworks7000]

Thanks for sharing this tip. The adjustable parallel idea solves a setup problem for how to index a previously machined air rifle barrel that needs some additional work. Thanks!

[@donpeterson9282]

Great video. We stand on the shoulders of giants....and Joe is one. Many thanks.

[@joepie221]

Thank you for that.

[@camarillojohn]

As always , great ideas and great way of presenting it. thank you.

[@larrysmall3521]

An idea you just gave me, use a large hex head bolt or nut for 6 sided operations. Thanks for the videos.

[@jackbonanno5550]

Joe, you truly are a genious, your mind must never rest.

[@joepie221]

Thank you. It rarely shuts off.

[@davesrepaircom]

Thanks Joe, more great ideas! I recently discovered Rose Indexes and they're terrific for this. I even 3D printed a set in PLA for jobs that don't require super precision. Quick and handy. Thanks again! I always learn cool stuff from your videos. You're a great teacher.

[@springwoodcottage4248]

Super useful! It's so nice to be in control, to know that even if you haven't got the exact tool, there are ways to do a good job with out taking a lot of time or using a lot of precision stock. Thank you for starting the New Year with such a good how to.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Thanks joe so well presented so it sticks it my head for when i need it

[@mrfrog3350]

Thanks Joe! Great stuff as always. The DIY tool, jig and fixture tips you inspire us with are the best ! Happy New Year Buddy!

[@3rcamera]

Nice and clever. Another thing to learn here. Thank you for shearing.

[@russellbailey5952]

Great videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. At age 56 being a beginner in a field this broad is not easy. With CNC taking over learning these important techniques are being overlooked. Which is what is driving me to learn. Thanks again,

[@johnv341]

A quick thank you from Australia before I go to the workshop to make an indexing disk. 92F here today so I better get moving before it gets too hot.

[@ronpeck3226]

Thanks Joe, You certainly have that "KISS" principle down pat! Thanks again

[@tfp777]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge professor.

[@metaling1]

Happy new year Joe! The cleverness of your tips always impress and are almost always not seen before on KZbin before. Great stuff in here. Tim

[@Robonthemoor]

Again fantastic show not a moment I wasn’t riveted to your every word. More more more 😀👍

[@michaelcoceski5442]

As always, learned something new. Mike ski says 'Thank you Joe Pie'

[@detectorguy]

How cool are the adjustable parallels....also great job with housekeeping....all of your gear is tidy,clean and well looked after...excellent.

[@joepie221]

Cutting steel doesn't have to be barbaric. I like walking into a clean shop in the morning and not having to wash my hands after I pick up a tool. I impressed this on my son early on and he fell right in line. Thanks for the comment.

[@r.j.sworkshop7883]

Thanks as always Joe for sharing all of your tricks.

[@BasementShopGuy]

Always learn from you Joe. Hands down, the most useful shop tips and de-mystifying of common problems. Happy new year pal!

[@joepie221]

Hi Brad. Thanks for stopping by. Happy New Year to you as well. Maybe we will actually get to meet this year.

[@charruauno386]

Joe you remind me the time when I worked for RALOID corporation in Reisterstown, Mr. Jadra also always had good ideas, joe you are one of a kind. Thank you for all your good tips. Have a good day.

[@joepie221]

Thank you very much.

[@NordicRifleman]

Another great idea Joe - thanks! Your channel is perfect proof that you don´t need fancy editing skills to have a successful channel with great content. Experience, know-how and great teaching skills will take you a long ways. Keep ´em coming :-) I´ve had a lathe for 1,5 years now doing mostly rifle barrel work for customers, and ordered a mill that is expected to arrive this week. The technique you showed will come in very handy.

[@RGSABloke]

Hi Joe, as the chief engineer in Star Trek would say 'ye canny change the laws o physics captain'. Lots to learn as always, will probably need to view a few times to let it all 'sink in'. Many thanks for sharing. Joe.

[@euclidallglorytotheloglady5500]

Found my project for the day! That little angle plate is the cats meow! I can see using that lil bugger for countless projects. Even with a few other additions I could see using this for layout lines on bar stock. Awesome video!

[@cavemansmancave9025]

Love the decorative artwork on the whiteboard. 😊 Great video, as usual. Thanks, John

[@joepie221]

Keep you eyes on that board this year. Things are going to happen.

[@cavemansmancave9025]

That's the plan.

[@yachtwork]

You are my personal machinist hero.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for that. I'm flattered.

[@jasonrandolph758]

Thanks for taking time to do these videos Joe they are very helpful.

[@ceesweerheim990]

Hi Joe Everytime I see a Kurt vice on a KZbin video I get this ‘must have’ feeling. Broke down and ordered a DX6 from Amazon. Thanks for your videos!

[@joepie221]

You won't be disappointed. The price stings a little, but its worth it. Just keep it clean.

[@christurnblom4825]

I've never seen one of these for sale & I'm sure somebody's likely suggested this before... Have you ever considered making those reference plates on a CNC with some engraved reference info, to sell? ...you know, in a little kit with a couple of pins and any other cheep yet useful accessories. It would be a great tool for hobbyists or guys like me who are just staring out and can't afford a lot of equipment yet. Considering the time it takes to make just one compared to how much you could sell those for, if you're just milling them out 20 at a time or something, makes me think that these would make money so long as you could market them well.

[@joepie221]

I may consider that. Its a handy little item. Come back for the rotary table series. You'll see some more trinkets.

[@18141776hhhh]

Understanding this kind of basics can go far, Thanks for Sharing!

[@reideichner8597]

Always educational!! Great video, Joe! Thanks!

[@maxcnc777]

Love it! Handy idea! Thanks Joe!

[@393strokedcoupe]

Great tips Joe. I love these, as everyone has to start from somewhere. Cheap, easy and gets the job done! Happy New Year!

[@garrattfan]

The spin indexer you showed at the start of the video is actually a physical version of the vernier scale!

[@Parents_of_Twins]

Great tips. Thanks for sharing some of your wealth of knowledge, much appreciated.

[@dunxy]

Cute little table, nice work! Lotsa effort, makes me glad i sprung for rotary table with indexing attachment from the get go.

[@cogentdynamics]

Thank you for what you do Joe! I love to watch and learn from you and appreciate your efforts.

[@joepie221]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate that.

[@James-fs4rn]

thanks for another one Joe. sure to be used sometime. happy new year.

[@soldier715]

Amazing video as always Joe.

[@ronroark9720]

Hey Joe, as always, outstanding info. I usually watch youTube on my TV so I can’t leave a comment. This came up on my email so now I can say, “thanks a million for all the great knowledge you impart to the rest f us”. Since I saw your video on reverse threading, that’s my preferred method for some time now. I don’t always use everything you teach, but I always learn something. You da man!

[@joepie221]

I'll put it out there if it works for me and I personally do it. If you guys embrace the technique, that would be fine, but its always good to see something from another angle. Thanks for the comment.

[@mecee4516]

Shut the gate!! Thank you Joe, it never occured to me to make a plate like this. 221 definately pays off! keep up the brilliant videos. I do have a rotary table with dividing head, but for quick & dirty projects, this looks ideal.

[@kalleklp7291]

It's always enjoyable to watch and learn from your videos. It doesn't matter If I'm used to metric, the principles are the same. Thanks for sharing...subscribed.

[@darrennelson6803]

You are one smart cookie!! Thanks for doin these videos!! Just scoped your website impressive list of patents!!

[@joepie221]

Thank you. I have to re-check the links. The patent office keeps shuffling things around. Medical devices mostly. I will probably have a smart leak controller crossing the patent office in the next 8 weeks.

[@keithnoneya]

Another fine video Joe, loved it. I did the edge clamping to and I must admit I was a little nervous for the same reason you mentioned. Only I had a really super low tech solution. I just screwed it into a hex rod and clamped the hex rod in a vise, made several low passes and then turned the hex rod and re-clamped it 6 times. It was for a one time use but the concept worked. My biggest concern when I did mine was if the small thread would break off when I made the cuts. But it worked out fine. I made a video of it and put it on my channel. I called it, "How to Machine a Connector Jack Screw Manually". Not a pro like by any stretch of the means but even and noob can get blessed once in awhile. Thanks for your Machining lesson for the day. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya

[@jimmilne19]

Man, I would have loved to have had you as my piano teacher. I have no doubt that I would have been a better pianist! You have great ideas I see nowhere else - I watch a lot of YT videos - and present them in a way that fosters learning. I have certainly learned a lot from your presentations. You should have students so your skills (and attitudes) propagate. What about taking advantage of the, let's say 10% of your subscribers 2,900 it would be, and make "for sale" this item accompanied by a length of the 3M double sided tape you mentioned. This would be a hot item, more so if stamped/engraved with your name! Thanks for all your help. Oh, btw, what is that 3M tape you mentioned and where do you purchase it?

[@ZenMinus]

So simple BUT so CLEVER and USEFUL

[@gexas38]

absorbing so much intell and experience from u joe...keep up the good work bro

[@joepie221]

Thanks, will do!

[@sharkrivermachine]

Good demo, always interesting.

[@esosoteric362]

Thanks for another useful set of ideas Joe.

[@pierresgarage2687]

I'm always trying to get to the simplest possible solution, this is pretty good in deed... ;)

[@daveknowshow]

I'm learning thanks Joe!

[@pthomps1954]

Those digital angle gauges work pretty well. On a lathe you can stick in on the side of a jaw then just switch jaws and correct by 120 degrees. You can use it to measure the angle of the quill handle which makes a pretty accurate depth stop.

[@jonathanwilhelm8891]

One day I came up with the wild idea to index in a pinch on a mill. By using a plum Bob string and the floor. Make a flat then rotate for the desired change in angle and then after a lil math change in string length. For the experienced out there can I put this idea I'm my tool box for those super constraint situations. Thanks

[@winkworks]

Great tips, Joe! Really enjoy your videos!!

[@johnw.peterson4311]

Joe, you are a great ideas man. Thank you.

[@joepie221]

One of my past supervisors used to enjoy telling me "This can't be done" Don't bother. That was like laying a steak on the ground 11 feet away from a pitbull on a 10 foot chain.

[@johnbodmer5645]

Great tool to have in the box Joe. Thanks for the idea.

[@rc166honda]

Brilliant, great video Joe. Many thanks for posting.

[@johnnyjames7139]

You are a great teacher, I could have used some of this building my live steamer. Late is still better than never.

[@Jacob-64]

Here you go Joe... How do you cut a radius slot 180 opposite say 1/2" slot 1/2" deep with no rotary table . Great tutorials love em 👍👏

[@shannonstebbens6992]

Great simple explanation as always. Thank you. I have an 'off the wall' question. It seems that I am always struggling to keep my mill, lathe, etc. clean. Yours always seem to look like new. What do you use to clean your equipment?

[@joepie221]

My ways are always covered with lexan shields and I rarely use sulpher based oils. The WD-40 that get slung around seem to take care of any grease when I wipe the machines down, and I clean up every day. Thanks for the comment. I take my machinery very seriously.

[@scottburrous2375]

As a kid in hs taking machine shop I had a part time night job cleaning a machine shop. One of the hardest and meticulous jobs I've had and, 40years later I get my own modest shop to clean - for FREE

[@justinmaxwell1608]

Excellent video, lots of pearls for the novice, and experienced as well, I like your policy of not taking common sense as a given. By covering the basics it doesn't add much extra time to your video like holding blocks safer for instance. Thanks for the problem solving solutions.

[@bcbloc02]

Certainly a good way to get it done!

[@incubatork]

Very useful info as usual Joe, you wouldn't have at hand a similar jig fore indexing on a small lathe for someone without a mill. Thanks for sharing and all the best for the new year.

[@armenbagdasarian6144]

your vid made a light come on in my dome, make a mark in the center of one of the 4 faces, line up the slot of a 5c collet and with that setup I can mill three flats on my big drill bits so I dont have to scrunch down on my chuck. Voila, no run out, no slip..

[@ROBRENZ]

Good stuff Joe, enjoyed! ATB, Robin

[@joepie221]

Hello Robin. Thanks for stopping by.

[@200xcBruce]

Happy New Year Joe you are amazing, hope your training others in your shop to carry on your immense knowledge.

[@madsighntist14]

Hi Joe, I tried to screen copy the "blueprints" last night, to use when I open up my shop (No SHOP 3 Years now) . . . Well, the dimensions were unreadable, so TONIGHT, I enlarged the Screen 200% and at 1080 High Definition, it was perfect! I will practice my (2d CAD) work to make exacting layout guidelines, but I thought I would share the thought with others who might have that trouble !!! Thanks, Philip From the Great Pacific NorthWET.

[@stevenclarke4228]

“How’s that for ugly - welcome to 2018” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 If only you knew at the time what goodies 2020 & 2021 had in store!

[@410outdoors6]

Joe Please do a video on how to cut a taper by moving the tail stock of the lathe!

[@DCFusor]

Great as always. Can you give more info on that handy tape?

[@bschena]

Seconded! I've tried a lot of different tapes, some work terribly, some work ok. Would love to know what flavor you have discovered!

[@joepie221]

I'll get the box and post it.