Simple Indexing on a Metal Lathe

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@cdrive5757
@cdrive5757 3 жыл бұрын
Happiness is a hot mug of Joe and a Winky's Workshop video! Thank you. Chris
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... Thanks!
@colinselby2405
@colinselby2405 Жыл бұрын
Glad to have someone like you willing to share the knowledge. I’m a young man who always should interest in metal work. The older generations I’m around wants to keep the knowledge a secret for some reason. But now I’m passing them because of people like you.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Glad to be of some help.
@jimenz6548
@jimenz6548 7 ай бұрын
Your so right, why do some of the most talented people want to keep what they know inside.....it is so foolish....my brother is a pottery turner, and has some wonderful glazes, and he said he will die with them in his head.....WHY?......his glazes are one of a kind..... I may have convinced him to write a book on them....I'm a former High School shop teacher....and I shared everything with my students....
@Euronasa
@Euronasa 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a nicely restored old lathe! And the indexing device was to me as genius as it was simple. Thanks man! 😀👍
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I love this little lathe. I got a super good deal on it but you might say I brought it back from the grave. I need to get some new gears for it. They work but they are noisy.
@johnw.peterson4311
@johnw.peterson4311 3 жыл бұрын
Winnie, you are a great machinist and one smart dude. Thank you for taking the time to show us your great work.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, Winky not Winnie but thanks all the same! Ha
@jamesmartinez991
@jamesmartinez991 2 ай бұрын
Very good, very simple, and very practical use of a gears. I like it.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Glad you like it! I've used this a lot.
@kallibrand4106
@kallibrand4106 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there from South.Africa. It is really nice to see you using the Southbend , all the tools you make and sharing it with us . It is absolutely motivating to say the least . I have a small Lantaine lathe and a Walker Turner drill press i restored . Me and my son are currently finishing an old 2 metre Cardiff lathe to add to the tooling for his turbocharger business that he runs from his garage at home . Your video on the square colomn drill press is just awesome . I recently bought a nice drill press but with a rediculously short pillar . I think it is a good candidate for a square colomn. Thank you for sharing all this good stuff with us .
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for the great comment. And yes, the square column drill press is a major improvement. If you make one, make the two arms that support the lower bearings a little wider and consider tack welding then in place. My table flexes a little under heavy load. Thanks again!
@AJR2208
@AJR2208 4 жыл бұрын
Very clever, well done. If you have enough motivation, re-make the indexing arbor to gain more contact area when it is expanding. Drill relief holes at the end of your slots, reduce the diameter of the tapered draw pin and cut the same taper on the OD of the arbor. This way when you pull it in tight, the arbor will expand parallel to the bore. Right now it's more like a small hole gauge. [edit - like an adjustable reamer stays parallel when expanding] Stay safe and well :)
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea although a bit more involved. Thanks!
@DavidHerscher
@DavidHerscher 3 жыл бұрын
Huh, well that's dang clever. Simple, clever, and most importantly VERY useful! This should be a standard accessory on any decent lathe.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've actually used it a lot and 48 tooth gears are fairly common.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Winky. Another cleverly made tool.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks... I liked the thing you made for installing the hose end. I need to finish watching the video. Did you crimp the end?
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop no the ferrule was too big for the crimper. I am going to start using the Wurth fittings that compedgex showed in his video. much simpler, quicker, easier.
@michaelbabatunde3915
@michaelbabatunde3915 8 ай бұрын
Many thanks for the information and the added knowledge and experience.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 8 ай бұрын
You bet! Thanks for watching
@t.d.mich.7064
@t.d.mich.7064 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty clever as usual! You must stay up all night thinking of these projects. Nice job!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Ha... thanks. My mind has more energy than my body that's for sure!
@johnbarnwell400
@johnbarnwell400 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the idea and great video with explanations! Very helpful
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ramsay19481
@ramsay19481 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds for all the world like an old repulsion induction motor when it starts.. Love your lathe.. I have a 1957 sixteen inch South Bend running on three phase.. Cheers; Mike in Louisiana
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I bought 20 motors for $100 just to get this motor for the south bend but I ended up keeping 9 of them. I need to take the motor apart again. I cleaned it up and replaces the wires that went through the housing. I need to take the shorting necklace apart, occasionally it won't start and it's getting worse. I milled a slot in a cover and installed a remote reverse lever. You can see the lever when I reverse the lathe while tapping. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpLYe5agp66Br5I
@alexblackburn627
@alexblackburn627 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1957 sb16 as well! Hard bed. I run a 5hp RPC off the wife’s dryer outlet for it. She does not approve!
@ramsay19481
@ramsay19481 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexblackburn627 My 1957 started life as a turret lathe.. I changed everything over to engine lathe configuration.. I too ran mine from a 5hp home made rpc until I got three phase from the power company.... I have enough power from Entergy to run 50 hp now.. Cheers; Mike in Louisiana
@alexblackburn627
@alexblackburn627 4 жыл бұрын
meg I need to look into my energy company! I already trolled them over a duel lug power meter to power my garage sub panel and have yet to complete that endeavor hah. If you don’t mind me asking, how much did the line cost to get 3p into your shop not including the breaker box and such? I’m in Cincinnati in a residential cul-de-sac so I probably don’t have the option. My 1951 index 55 knee mill and lathe running together really suck the life out of my RPC’s 3rd leg
@ramsay19481
@ramsay19481 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexblackburn627 I live right across the street from a power sub station so the three phase overhead line is very close... They hung a small transformer for the third leg and use the existing transformer feeding my house for the other two legs.....It is 120 240 208 "open delta" that is about 87% efficient but it is better if you have 220 single phase motors....I had to cut a check to the power company for 1000 dollars for them to supply to the meter which I had to provide....If I would have had a large enough demand, they would have provided what I had to pay them for for free.. cheers; Mike in Louisiana (Ramsay 1 on Practical Machinist)
@iancraig1951
@iancraig1951 2 жыл бұрын
A well made drill powered tool post grinder can grind, drill and cut keyways.. an excellent addition to any workshop...
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@justmakeit2616
@justmakeit2616 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea for my mini lathe
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it! Thanks for watching
@Lannyman100
@Lannyman100 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes pretty good,and pretty easy to follow.Thank you.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks
@bentontool
@bentontool Жыл бұрын
Outstanding design! And simple... THANKS!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! The only issue I have with it is the slight slop on the pin. Also.... in most cases its within the tolerances I need.
@MaturePatriot
@MaturePatriot 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely engineered. That is a nice old lathe.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That old lathe looked bad when I got it. It was a huge job to restore but worth the effort I think.
@alanderry4764
@alanderry4764 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea, simple but effective!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks... I have used it a lot.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 4 ай бұрын
Very nice work. I like the system. May incorporate it onto my lathe.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, fairly simple too.
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a Great Inventor/ problem solver Winky 👍 really enjoying the Videos
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@kwaaaa
@kwaaaa 10 ай бұрын
What a great ingenious design!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
Yeah and easy and accurate too. Thanks!
@nashguy207
@nashguy207 4 жыл бұрын
Great Ideal. That is a useful addition to your lathe.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@johnoconnor2594
@johnoconnor2594 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I like making things better and more useful too.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thank your sir, I feel the same.
@gabewhisen3446
@gabewhisen3446 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy the craftsmanship handiwork and clear explanation of the processes thanks
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jamescopeland5358
@jamescopeland5358 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea Wink, I'll have to give that a go
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@compassprecision
@compassprecision 4 жыл бұрын
Great looking lathe. Another nice video!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@artmckay6704
@artmckay6704 4 жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant! Wow! Great solution! :)
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Well thanks!
@dziggy3004
@dziggy3004 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the tip, that a KNURL actually "expands" the diameter! have the tool, but haven't used it yet! nice to know!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 11 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Knurling is kind of tricky but starting with significant pressure helps.
@miljenkotkalec
@miljenkotkalec 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so! It works very well.
@lisag2771
@lisag2771 4 жыл бұрын
Man that’s pretty! Great job 👍🏻👍🏻
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Gears are cool! Thanks
@grafixtech
@grafixtech Ай бұрын
hats off to you , really appreciate
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks, and thanks for watching.
@dwightcarlson7136
@dwightcarlson7136 4 жыл бұрын
Did I miss where the spring loaded pin came from? But excellent/elegant design. Liked that knurled solution to the loose fit!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Those things are kind of hard to find but McMaster Carr has then Part number 3403A14
@Cheva-Pate
@Cheva-Pate 3 жыл бұрын
This was very cool!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I love the simplicity.
@johnkinnane547
@johnkinnane547 4 жыл бұрын
G'day and greetings from Tasmania Australia, that's one beautiful lathe. John
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, that lathe was a big job but worth the effort I think. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKO7c56neJunqsU
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 4 жыл бұрын
Very slick idea. Another simple thing a person could use in a pinch is a sprocket.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Very true! Lot of possibilities.
@rayfalcone6897
@rayfalcone6897 4 жыл бұрын
very nice vido Wink,enjoyed it.thanks for sharing with us.see you next time.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray!
@terrycannon570
@terrycannon570 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 4 жыл бұрын
What a great idea. Now you need another drilling adaptor with lead screw so you can cut gear teeth. :-) By the way a longer spigot for your index gear to put the taper deeper into the headstock would reduce the risk of index gear wobble. You could also use it to make index wheels with drilled holes (instead of teeth) for the index peg.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! I have another video on indexing where I used a tapered pin in holes. It had 100 and 48 so it had more options. This gear method is a little stronger and easier to build. I never used more than the 2 3 and 4 positions anyway. The mandrel length was dictated by drill length. Pipe would have been a good option but I didn't have any the right size.
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 4 жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant idea. Thanks for sharing.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@dougvanallen2212
@dougvanallen2212 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wink I'm going to copy that if you don't mind The spring mechanism reminded me of the zip guns that we made when we were kids many moons ago
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome, thanks for watching! The pin part number is in the description.
@therealspixycat
@therealspixycat 4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea and nicely done
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, thanks!
@kgee2111
@kgee2111 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got an old Craftsman/Atlas lathe that has a large gear in the headstock(keyed to the spindle) with 60 small holes evenly spaced on the face of it. There is also a locking pin that fits into whichever hole is aligned with it. This is a very easy way to index the spindle/ chuck etc. it is built into the design of the lathe. Nice project though.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen these before and it's a good idea. I probably could have used the bull gear teeth in my lathe too. My Logan has 72 teeth which works out well, not sure about the south bend.
@douglasbattjes3991
@douglasbattjes3991 Жыл бұрын
He has the Atlas Craftsman made in Kazoo MI@@WinkysWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Winky, That would be an useful addition to most lathes... Thanks for sharing. Take care Paul,,
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I used my old indexer 5 or 6 times but didn't have one for my South Bend I like the new one better.
@MitchellCH
@MitchellCH 4 жыл бұрын
Very clever, thanks.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TERRYB0688
@TERRYB0688 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly simple, the best things are 👍
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! Simple is almost always better.
@stevenfoster1940
@stevenfoster1940 3 жыл бұрын
I like this guy
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you sir.
@CraftedChannel
@CraftedChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I think I have a video up where I made a cutter by knurling. I was exposed to increasing diameter and making cutters for softer materials in my dads race shop. In his case, he made tools to line bore 356 and 911 cases when there was an issue with the crank binding as the case was torqued up. I've also considered making an expanding mandrel by producing an incomplete thread. ;-) Gaining the expanding taper from the end of the tap/threads. I've not used the method yet. A lathe without an indexing method is an issue. I need to make a better drilling rig. I like yours. I have a tool post drill press that is pretty large for my lathes but it is inspiring me to consider doing in useful size.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I've used the taper on the end of a tap for making threads to expand a pipe in a hole but you need a way to access the bolt head. It would work well for a cutter like your dad made. The mandrel I made in this video worked very well. Making the large bore and band saw cuts deep was the trick. Making it from tubing would be easier to make long which would be a plus. Mine was limited by the drill length.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea, be making me one soon. Great info thanks.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Go for it! And you are welcome.
@tomeyssen9674
@tomeyssen9674 3 жыл бұрын
Nifty!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@conkcat
@conkcat 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant simple solution
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@charlesbowen3944
@charlesbowen3944 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've use this a lot
@anthonycash4609
@anthonycash4609 4 жыл бұрын
Winky you could design the mounting bracket to where you could still get to the oil port. I do like your indexing extension arm you added to the compound. I had made my tool post drill as short as I could get it with still little room to index from the side. Thanks for the idea I will have to make me an extension arm now to be able to do larger stuff.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I might drill a hole for the oil cup and make an extension although removing two nuts is pretty quick. Yeah, the extension is handy but make it thick so it doesn't flex. .
@speedbuggy16v
@speedbuggy16v 4 жыл бұрын
as an alternative turning a taper on the shaft to seat into the headstock bore on the gearbox side would align the tool as well, assuming the headstock bore is true. Great Idea, I will be making one for my SB in the future.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Somebody else said the same... Very true, that would be a good idea although the exact amount of taper might be hard to determine. Thanks
@andrewraugh1622
@andrewraugh1622 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I would like to make this.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Go for it! Your welcome.
@emanekaf4107
@emanekaf4107 4 жыл бұрын
thats a beautiful lathe!!!!!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, It was a ton of work. I brought it back from the dead! Ha. I think is was a worthwhile effort. I like it better than y Logan, a bit ore solid. If you are interested I made a video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKO7c56neJunqsU
@emanekaf4107
@emanekaf4107 4 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop wow, you did that yourself? I honestly thought you had bought it brand new, you did an amazing job!!!!!!!!! I will check out the link. Thank you again, loving your channel also!!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@emanekaf4107 - Thanks! Yeah the lathe was in very bad shape when I got it. I only paid $100 for it so the time spend was worthwhile.
@tooljourney
@tooljourney 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. that got me to look for a 48 tooth gear and it appears that i have one covered in rust, when i cleaned it it showed center marks at certain points for indexing already, i think the previous owner did that.. or the owner before the previous owner... ;)
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 4 жыл бұрын
I like it. Nice job!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kurtdietrich5421
@kurtdietrich5421 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice idea.👍
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bulldawg6259
@bulldawg6259 2 жыл бұрын
I like it
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nikolaishriver7922
@nikolaishriver7922 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1947 Atlas 12, and the spindle has 60 indexing marks built in to the bull gears, that’s divisible by most numbers I use for projects. It has a little pin that just slides in and out, makes it easy. But the pin itself is not rigid enough to do much more than scribing/layout. If I do tool post drilling, I need to use the bull gear engagement to lock the spindle to hold it rigid. Takes a little wiggling to get the gears to the right alignment to lock them. I like your setup, but it wouldn’t be very usable for what I do without some way to index it, and then lock the spindle. I drill a lot of holes at an angle off tangent, which I change by adjusting the height of the drill and usually have to start holes with a flat nose 4-flute endmill. If I tried to do that with this setup it would shake all over the place and vary the holes positions way too much to be useful. I do like this design, but I would need a spindle lock to combine with it. My drill completely replaces the compound/tool post, and as such, I can really only use it for flange hole type drilling. It’s pretty rigid, but it’s also limited to the two angles of carriage travel and cross-slide travel. I need to make a tool post drill like this to pair with a hand drill so I can drill at angles if need be. Not really a point to all this I’m saying, but yours is a pretty neat idea
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I had a wood lathe with indexing like you Atlas, nice feature. My curiosity has me wondering what you are making that need holes at an angle? Thanks
@nikolaishriver7922
@nikolaishriver7922 4 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Currently Im working on a centrifugal pump type of invention and I don't have an impeller to use for a part of it, so i'm using a piece of round stock as a thick disc and basically drilling around the perimeter of it about an inch below center to create a somewhat pump/impeller effect with the holes slanting slightly backwards to the direction of rotation to move fluid from the center to the outer diameter of the rotor more easily, like cuts in a pie except not meeting in the center haha. This component is basically a cars water pump, just a home made one. I'm currently a hobby guy, I cant call myself a machinist, but I definitely have a passion for this and i'm hoping to go to a local tech school here come january so I can do it professionally, but right now i'm just making my own projects. I have an Atlas 12 and a Smithy BX288 and I can make just about whatever I need, but there is always an infinite amount to learn, and I need to learn how to do things the "right" way so I can make it a career. In my original comment I should have added to "I don't really have a point to this -BUT I love talking about machining equipment in general"
@nikolaishriver7922
@nikolaishriver7922 4 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop I just came across your channel and I'm seeing a lot of excellent tips and tricks, I appreciate you taking the time to document these ideas, it can be such a drag to film what you're working on, and I rarely have the patience for it. So big thank You for doing so
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikolaishriver7922 - Got yeah... that's a cool project
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikolaishriver7922 - Making a video isn't too bad if you have a clear plan. Sometimes I'm inventing as you go and that makes it a lot more difficult. I've spent several hours on a video and abandon the effort several times. Just the other day I was making a better knurling tool.... but it wasn't better, ha
@billslack1879
@billslack1879 4 жыл бұрын
eccelent work winky.i,ll be making similar on my lathe
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks
@erik....
@erik.... 4 жыл бұрын
If you have 42-45-48 gears you can do 1 to 9 divisions, plus some more like 14, 15, 16, 21, 24 If you have 60, it can do 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15 by itself.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like I should have used a 60 tooth. However 2, 3, and 4 are the most commonly needed at least that is all I have ever used, Thanks
@tomburson5733
@tomburson5733 4 жыл бұрын
Nice idea!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Winky, I like this idea also. It does look a lot easier to make. I wouldn’t mind making both kinds of Indexing Wheels. Mainly because I don’t have very many extra gears, although I could get a Lot of combinations with the Gear. I want to make the larger one to try and make some bigger Dials for my little 6” Atlas. Hopefully someday I will have a bigger/better Lathe. Thanks again
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I'd buy a gear on ebay and use a 100 tooth saw blade for the dials.
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop sounds good, I’ll see what I can find. I might have to get a 100 Tooth Saw Blade also.👍
@joell439
@joell439 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea...... again. 👍👍😎👍👍
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@jonathanr7436
@jonathanr7436 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
And simple too. Thanks
@scottvincent7666
@scottvincent7666 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@dziggy3004
@dziggy3004 3 жыл бұрын
you may want a better indexing pin that is either a wider ball tip or one which meshes better with the gears to remove runout. if you ever forget, and the lathe is running and the gear-bar is present, that exposed gear is a safety hazard (binding pinch point...)
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
There is about .0015" slop in the pin but the shape of the pin seats fairly well. There is no significant load on the gear. If there was I would make the pin more like a tooth profile (runout?). I don't run the lathe with the gear installed although even if I did I have no business running a lathe if I can't keep my fingers away from the gear. There are many places on the lathe the are equally dangerous and very exposed. Personal responsibility and common sense need to be practiced.
@douglasbattjes3991
@douglasbattjes3991 Жыл бұрын
Very cool dividing head idea, now I can make one for my old Atlas's lathes. Where did you put the spring in the locking pin. ?👍👍👍👍
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I bought it from Mcmaster Carr Spring Plunger - McMaster Carr Part Number 3403A14
@michaelgrubbs1618
@michaelgrubbs1618 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@HepcatHarley
@HepcatHarley 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice, well done :)
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@firearmsstudent
@firearmsstudent 4 жыл бұрын
For indexing on the lathe, why do you need to make something to do it? The lathe already does it for you because when it is threading it makes the work rotate a certain number times per inch per the thread pitch. The idea here is reversing the concept that so that by measuring the cross slide movement with threading engaged you can convert that to a degree rotation in the chuck. (So for a 8 TPI engagement, every full rotation = 0.125"; therefore, with that TPI engaged, an eighth of a rotation of the chuck would be 1/64" = 0.015625" which while small, is measurable) Just put a dial indicator on the bed against the cross slide, and have the compound 90 degrees to the cross slide. With threading engaged, rotate the chuck (by hand) until the dial indicator says the correct number. Move the compound back the same distance so the tool stays where it should. Do your operation and then zero out the indicator and repeat. I've been meaning to try this out on my lathe, just haven't gotten around to it yet, so let me know how it works out.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I like your thinking but a gear is much easier.
@SW-ii5gg
@SW-ii5gg 2 жыл бұрын
Would that be effected by backlash?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@brianmitchell305
@brianmitchell305 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea. Add another item to the to do list. Thanks.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome, thanks for watching!
@rayst.2934
@rayst.2934 2 жыл бұрын
love that lathe ,I've been looking for a south Bend myself ....is that a 30 inch?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
It's a South Bend 11 and I think 24 between centers.
@ARIFINLATHE
@ARIFINLATHE 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my senior..how you sir?..I like your jobs all..nice full..good luck for you🤝💯👍👏👏🤝🤝🤝🤝
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@robbyparham9121
@robbyparham9121 2 жыл бұрын
Nice lathe, my brother has one just like it. Who makes that type of lathe?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Its a South Bend 11 inch
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Winky, Can you show how you make the Retractable Pin. Thanks
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
I bought it from McMaster Carr. The part number is in the description.
@richardhaen
@richardhaen 3 жыл бұрын
MR Winky, how did u make ur locator pin spring loaded? I looked at ur tap guide the one I made sure dose look like urs. Thanks again
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! The pin part number was in the description but here it is. McMaster Carr Part Number 3403A14
@Pushyhog
@Pushyhog 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful laite' your smart. Bet it cost a lot. I ha hf mini mill & laite'.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
You would not believe what I paid for the lathe. No counting the gas to drive 120 miles it cost me $100! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKO7c56neJunqsU
@wk7060
@wk7060 6 ай бұрын
Did you have to machine the plunger tip to fit the gear tooth?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
Thanks a very good question. I can't remember. This video is a few years old. The link to the pin is in the description
@kennethdouthit2323
@kennethdouthit2323 3 жыл бұрын
where did you get the gear or was it just a lucky find? You have a lot of good ideas
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks... yeah, it was a lucky find. You could use a 24 tooth and get most the same combinations. The gear I found is very heavy duty... massive overkill. I'd say you could find a lighter weight 48 or 24 tooth gear on ebay fairly cheap. Even new for around $35 maybe.
@jeffjefferson2676
@jeffjefferson2676 4 жыл бұрын
But what if you want to make a 6 fluted reamer. You cannot have the reamer have even spacing, because that would cause chatter. Would you skip some teeth? It needs 1st 0 2nd 59.0769 3rd 121.1538 4th 178.8462 5th 241.3846 6th 298.8462 Degrees. But 1 tooth is 360/48= 7,5 degrees. So that is off to much. A normal dividing head has a 40 to 1 ratio, with 39 holes disk. 2nd 4 holes less, 3rd 5 more, 4th 7 less, 5th 6 more, 6th 5 less. So could you get a lot of gears to make it so that you get these ratios? I have seen lathes with a dividing head. And i definitely need one if i want to make reamers. The way you did it is pretty clever! Would a closed stepper motor, and pulley wheel be good as an dividing head for the lathe with that kind of precision?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Uneven spacing? I'm fairly certain all my reamers have even spacing. Now I'll have to measure then! Ha
@jeffjefferson2676
@jeffjefferson2676 4 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop Its how it is written in the book Machinery handbook 27th edition. "Irregular Spacing of Teeth in Reamers", page 833. Its to prohibit chatter. Ive read a lot about making barrels for rifles. And on chamber reamers. They need to have the uneven spacing. And its a real hassle to get it drawn in 3D CAD. Let alone to machine it. A reamer that can ream out existing barrels is even harder to get right while those are spiral reamers, so they wont get stuck on the rifling. If i ever want my blackpowder gun to shoot straight i will have to ream out the barrel with a spiral reamer, and build a cut rifling assembly with gears and pinion gears, like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pprEi52Ymdpnhc0. I think its amazing. Then you really need something to keep the right angles when making the grooves, but you will need the spindle bore to house the barrel. So putting something in the bore wont do. So im still looking for a solution. That can do everything, uneven spacing, and even spacing, without obstructing the spindle bore.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffjefferson2676 - Interesting stuff. I'm sure you will figure out how to do both.
@neviahmokgotho
@neviahmokgotho 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to "PPE" and "Safety precautions"?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Logic and reason took over. Driving to the grocery store puts me at much higher risk that anything I was doing in this video. Safety is important and I'm sure their are times when I could do better but there has to be a balance. Fortunately this balance is now decided by me and not a paid safety person that is trying to determine if scratching my ass is a safety violation.
@paulmanhart4481
@paulmanhart4481 11 ай бұрын
Hi Winky. When I try to bore out a hole to a larger size on my Jet drill press, the bit always gets stuck in the part and often the whole chuck comes out of the spindle. I’m using a key to tighten the bit in the chuck. What might be wrong? Thanks, Paul
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the hole you are enlarging it too close to the size you are drilling. If you are enlarging a 3/4 hole to 7/8 the bit will grab. Bigger steps in drill size will stop this. As far as the chuck coming out goes.... I'd say the tapers might be in bad shape.
@paulmanhart4481
@paulmanhart4481 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Winky. It’s a new 20” drill press. I’ll try a step drill next time and yes, the sizes are close. I like your videos.
@Guds777
@Guds777 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't a threads for a spider in the rear on the headstock spindle...
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Spider? Like a collet? No thread but the chuck side has a taper.
@Tule54
@Tule54 4 жыл бұрын
Like it! 👍👍👍🖖
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@chjp2346
@chjp2346 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Winky, I just tuned into your channel the first time today. I sure would like to see a little better how you mounted your drive motor and Jack shaft for this lathe. I am curious the purpose of the lever that you moved at 6:04 in this video. I just inherited an older lathe that has the flat belt/Jack shaft/v-belt arrangement as yours but came in a box. Have you made a video on this arrangement or plan to?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
That was a home made setup although the cone pulley and v-belt pulley came with the lathe. South Bend did make a drive system that attached to the v on the top of the bed that looked similar to mine. The previous owner of my lathe drill holes in the back of the bed and utilize these holes. it would be better to use the factory setup if you can. Here's a playlist of my south bend rebuild. maybe it will provide answers. The lever is a motor revierse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKO7c56neJunqsU
@RANDALLOLOGY
@RANDALLOLOGY 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea and reuse of a old gear.
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 48 tooth is a useful number. I'd say fairly easy to find too. Thanks
@EddieMorley159
@EddieMorley159 2 жыл бұрын
why knurl it and not put a cone mid way down the spindle?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
It goes in a few inches. I don't thing anything would be gained by going deeper. The knurl just helped keep it center.
@wk7060
@wk7060 6 ай бұрын
Do you have a video that shows making the spring loaded pin?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
I got the pin from McMaster-Carr. The part number is in the description below the video. Thanks
@littlehills739
@littlehills739 Жыл бұрын
a notch so the pin cant vibrate and drop down?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea but I take it off when I'm not using the indexing. Thanks
@ilmondodimassi
@ilmondodimassi 4 жыл бұрын
How teeth this gear? Sorry my English
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
48 tooth. this gives me several common hole patterns. 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 12 etc.
@ilmondodimassi
@ilmondodimassi 4 жыл бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop thanks. I copy this. Very interesting for house job
@garymucher9590
@garymucher9590 4 жыл бұрын
Could go to your computer and design a plate with all the capable patterns this gear can offer and then adhere it to the gear. Just an idea. Thumbs Up!
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Very Cool idea although with the existing marks I get 2, 3, 4, and 6. It would be easy to do in cad. so I may do this anyway, thanks!
@Rochesterhome
@Rochesterhome 6 ай бұрын
McMaster wants $28 to ship 1 spring plunger. Did you pay that much?
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
I don't think so. Google this number, Amazon has one but you have to click other buy options. I think it's $17 which is still too high... CL-6-LHRP
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
Also, it looks like Amazon has a large variety if cheap indexing pins would work just as well. Search amazon for "indexing spring plunger"
@Rochesterhome
@Rochesterhome 6 ай бұрын
​@@WinkysWorkshop Thank you. The simple indexing setup you made looks like an OEM. Nice job. Like you, I spent a ton of time on my first indexing setup, which is now dismantled, and a new, simpler one is on the way. I'm more visual than analytical. I have to make it to see if it works. I've gained a lot of respect for those who design complicated machines. My first boss told us, "We do it nice, because we do it twice!" :)
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 6 ай бұрын
@@Rochesterhome I worked for a large magazine printer for 39 years. I ran a press for a while but the last 15 years were spent redesigning presses and related machinery in problem areas. I think I had a slight advantage due to having run the machines for the previous 24 years but it was also due to my ability to visualize a modification and even see it in action in my head. For many years I thought everyone could do the same but apparently most can not. If you think you have this ability "LEARN CAD". It will open the flood gates. I learned Sketchup which was adequate for my needs but if you are younger than 45, learn something like Fusion of Solid works.
@Rochesterhome
@Rochesterhome 5 ай бұрын
@@WinkysWorkshop I downloaded a CAD program months ago. I couldn't get it to work. I have a short tolerance when it comes to computers. :) I'll make another attempt soon. Unfortunately, I blew past 45 long ago. :) Why do you attach age to CAD?
@bigboreracing356
@bigboreracing356 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@AsitShouldBe
@AsitShouldBe 4 жыл бұрын
nice, but I haven't any lathe, only a mill😂
@Guds777
@Guds777 4 жыл бұрын
You can lathe on your mill. But if you have a mill then you just use your rotary table...
@stuarth43
@stuarth43 4 жыл бұрын
my lathe has degrees on the spindle, is it not so common? it is a 575x 2000 hb cazenueve
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this. Some Atlas have 60 holes on a spindle gear,
@philiprhoades3139
@philiprhoades3139 4 жыл бұрын
how often do you need to oil that sleeve bearing? because you covered up the oil port...
@WinkysWorkshop
@WinkysWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
I'll remove it when I'm not using the indexing. I usually oil it about every 3rd time I use the lathe. Probably over kill but I run the bearings a bit on the tight side and I'd hate to burn them up!
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