Was Silk Road Founder Framed for Murder By Corrupt Cops?

This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience #1614 with Tiller Russell. open.spotify.c...

[@codyreiter1296]

Who’s here after the pardon?

[@Vandalio_Saez]

I just found out 😮

[@jenniferparker1708]

Never heard this story until today!

[@Defines1776]

Trump is the man for this.

[@J-lah7928]

@@Defines1776Trump is the only president of our time that has actually been For The People!!!

[@williammasters1620]

I am, thankyou trump dawg

[@DatBoiSammyP]

Ross had to learn the hard way that if you want to make money off of the drug trade, you had better work with the US Government.

[@King_Karnage]

Once u get big enough the government definitely wants a piece. Keep em happy nd u fine. Crack dealers in NY in the 80s and 90s being escorted to and from drug shipment pickups by police lol as long as everyone gets a slice

[@scottvelez3154]

More specifically the CIA.

[@JC-cv3up]

CIA loves coke and poppy fields

[@scottbambam]

I agree with all of you. I had (had being the key word) personal experience with this in NYC in the late 80s. I had full protection with my deliveries for my "family" , I never had a problem. It was only when my dumb ass went home to NJ that I ran into a small town where I had no protection and because of my personal greed I got popped and did 5 years (for weed) in the NJ prison system in the early 90s. Such is life now it's legal bit the things I got away with in those days with protection from dirty cops was amazing. Just as long as they got their envelope and that was one of my jobs delivering the envelopes. The good old days and the bad old days in different ways.

[@ryanmurphy7355]

He wasn’t exactly trying to do that..he tried to make a website to purchase drugs off of so you don’t have to deal with drug dealers and sketchy situations.

[@SirLeDoux]

The fact that they offered him a 10 year sentence as a plea but then charged him double life plus 40 no parole tells you how corrupt it is.

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

His mom claims this never happened and that he would have taken the "deal" which was actually 20 years

[@Omardawood207]

@@wuldntuliktonoptb6861 then they threatened his mom to say that😂😂😂😂😂 I don’t believe a single word spoken from the fbi or the cia

[@lisaindahouse1304]

I had a police officer whisper in my ear "there are worse things than going to jail" I don't trust ANYONE in power

[@SaintCharbelMakhlouf420]

‘The fact’ is this is not a fact. Prove me wrong and show me proof this was offered to him

[@christianwilborn4620]

Trump could pardon him in 2024

[@TheSaintedOne]

Cutting in on the CIA's drug business is the worst decision you can make.

[@Si_Mondo]

Not as bad as counterfeiting. Doesn't matter what class of society you're from, the government will screw you all the same. Upper class drug dealers still get better sentences than working/lower class drug dealers. "Counterfeiting interferes with the government monopoly on counterfeiting." -Rothbard

[@oscarhall4913]

Q

[@TheSaintedOne]

@@Si_Mondo Like stimulus checks and sending Ukraine "defense" funds? Our political elite has been using Ukraine to launder money for decades. Now, they're doing it openly. And it seems only a few of us know what they're ACTUALLY doing.

[@wiilov]

But necessary to break them.

[@lisaindahouse1304]

BINGO!

[@OpenMind3000]

Free Ross!

[@John-ol2cs]

Why would you want to free Ross? Now I don't have anything against drugs, I really don't. But it's a fact that he tried to kill six people, he even thought that he did.

[@dahawk8574]

@@John-ol2cs: "it's a fact that he tried to kill six people" Looks like you've stretched the meaning of the word 'fact' well past the breaking point.

[@dahawk8574]

Someone posted, then deleted, this reply to me: "Ross Ullbricht paid to have 6 people killed. Yes, his stupid ass got scammed and it never happened, but the fact remains he paid to have it happened and thought it did indeed happened" I will once again make a plug for people to use care when presenting info as fact. Especially when labeling a person as a murderer, when he was never so much as _tried_ for any murder charge, let alone convicted. These are the actual facts: - All charges Ross was tried for were non-violent. - Multiple people had access to the DPR admin account. Now who today is one of Ross's staunchest defenders? The very guy who Ross supposedly had ordered to be killed. Instead of spreading lies, we have the option to educate ourselves on this case. _Silk Road Admin Curtis Green Explains How And Why He Supports Ross Ulbricht_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2TWhHuLqsaKf8km9s

[@John-ol2cs]

@@dahawk8574 It's funny how this guy says himself that he might be crazy. Apart from that Ross definitely should get a retrial.

[@dahawk8574]

@@John-ol2cs, best I can tell, Ross's biggest crime is that he legitimized Bitcoin. That, far more than drugs, is what really got the establishment freaked.

[@jopo7996]

I can't believe Ross did all this. I never watched the last season of Friends, but it sounds like it got really edgy.

[@sumeahsking8019]

Fake comments and likes incoming!

[@TericT]

THEY WERE ON A BREAK

[@lkb4781]

Could it be any more of a setup?

[@traildoggy]

The One With The Drugs

[@brazenlilhussy5975]

@@lkb4781 Ayye! Smooth af Mr. Bing. Any prescription drugs to make me skinny/fat /skinny/fat for the rest of my life?

[@zakksrage]

I used to be buy kilos of dmt off the Silk Road an sell it to the joe Rogan experience

[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear ueban

[@geester]

ive heard dmt makes you feel like your dying and your transported to a diffrent dimension and speak to aliens??!!

[@tecnispeedfight]

sooo did it work?

[@dawsonwright9990]

@@geester make some and find it out yourself

[@geester]

@@dawsonwright9990 once lockdown ends I'll be straight on it!!!

[@HGAMES69]

They framed him because he was competition.

[@GovernorRiffRaff]

They didn’t frame him.

[@shooeeeeee]

A man sells a gram to feed his children, he's a criminal. A man in a suit selling 100killos is a patriot.

[@robert48044]

isnt it more like entrapment

[@maverick6775]

Yeah but you didn't had to say that out loud lol

[@GovernorRiffRaff]

@@robert48044 law enforcement literally impersonate hit men all the time to arrest people for conspiracy for murder.

[@mattmorrison9379]

I get some kind of punishment for what he did but 2 life sentences plus 40 years?? Wtf.

[@je2338]

Drug supply I believe actually carries the death penalty in the USA. So it could have been worse. He was convicted of conspiracy to murder for persons he suspected were going to (and already had) ratted on him to the police. He was running a sophisticated drug trade and was THE top dog. Drugs causes massive destruction to society and he allowed dangerous drugs such as methamphetamine and crack to be supplied. Users also died using the drugs supplied through his website.

[@taran5209]

Imagine get 20 to life for possessing 6 rocks or vials of crack.

[@weeweeman5822]

It honesty pisses me off. How tf is he getting way more time than pedophiles and rapists.

[@mattmorrison9379]

@@taran5209 yeah that's effed up as well

[@wildheartxxx135]

Scary right

[@haydennorman9742]

He's been pardoned. Thank God

[@TheMadPickler01]

The drug dealer who hired hitmen gave others a connection to hire hitmen is out of prison thank god

[@Dutchbrother07]

@@TheMadPickler01 did you not watch the video? He was never charged with all that other nonsense. He got a longer sentence than el chapo essentially for making a website. That doesn’t rouse any suspicion for you?

[@TheMadPickler01]

@@Dutchbrother07 he didnt get a longer sentence then el chapo wtf are you talking about about 😂, and el chapo should have got even longer than he did. Dpr is responsible for every death that happened via OD or hitman made through purchases from silkroad

[@Dutchbrother07]

@@TheMadPickler01 el chapo got a life sentence, this guy got a double life sentence

[@Dutchbrother07]

@ is mark zuckerburg responsible for all the crimes committed over facebook? Is home depot liable for murder because someone bought a hammer from them and beat someone to death with it? Asinine argument

[@Radhaugo108]

The contrast between Purdue Pharma’s prosecution vs traditional drug dealers speaks volumes about the “fairness” of our Justice System.

[@ryohio4706]

That's soooo crazy true.. wow,, I applaud this comment

[@Lishkabro]

Nailed it, it's unjust.

[@Bob_Smith19]

Purdue is a lot worse because they made the drug, distributed the drug and then paid doctors to push it. W/ Silk Road all he did was setup a marketplace where others could sell their goods. The Sackler family are complete pieces of shit and nothing will happen to them due to corruption.

[@placebojesus5652]

Amen, one of the important truths in our modern society today. And just so people know, MANY other pharmaceutical companies and doctors and clinic owners and other companies were involved in the entire opioid (and benzo) opioid epidemic situation.

[@mericanignoranc3551]

Dupont poisoned the entire worlds water supply...got fined. Most people don't even know it happened . Merica! It's good to be rich...don't be poor

[@mourningireland4560]

Silk Road... those were the good old days.

[@UnclePhillyMyAss]

When I spent todays prices of about 250 grand on Mushrooms and DMT for about 200 dollars. Im not bitter at all.

[@GP30277]

@@UnclePhillyMyAss FBI OPEN UP

[@UnclePhillyMyAss]

​@@GP30277 PROVE IT

[@sauceup713ayye7]

@@UnclePhillyMyAss facts🤣🤣

[@gandalf8216]

@@UnclePhillyMyAss Funny how $200 can do what it does, once you vaporize it. But I recommend ayahuasca, if you want the real DMT experience. Yes, you can treat it like mushrooms. Yes, you'll shit and puke. But you'll realize things, and it's far better than any psychologist. You can "trip" by remembering the experience for years afterward. And it's all just for $200/decade.

[@gaulicwarlord]

That kid got railroaded so hard it’s insane. Honestly probably saved lives by allowing people to not have to interact with the drug trade physically in order to get drugs. That someone can go to jail for multiple life sentence because they facilitated someone putting what they wanted to in their bodies is gross.

[@ilevakam316]

he also ordered his on people, so there's that

[@stevenkaz28]

You forgot the amount of identity theft, counterfeit goods, and all the other horrible things on there that ruin innocent peoples lives lol. It wasn't just drugs. This dude Ross was a dirtbag who made millions of ruining others lives through means other than drugs and now he tries to hide behind this "freedom" bs lol

[@bootysauce_]

They are pissed they didn't get a piece of what he was making!

[@xombi213]

You do realize how terribly children suffer just to produce most drugs. All people involved support child molestation and abuse, by proxy. The only way to fix the problem is to not add to it. All people putting this guy on a pedestal obviously don't consider the actual full chain of production.

[@alexradu8596]

@@xombi213 or make all drugs legal and have people be paid to make them

[@raymondsmith9886]

Drug Dealers never get framed... The DEA has a great track record of honesty, integrity, and civic morality.

[@johngagliano7578]

Yeah, ok 👌🤣🤣🤣🤣👏

[@raymondsmith9886]

@@johngagliano7578 it was sarcasm

[@placebojesus5652]

Isn’t it annoying that we have to add /s for the idiots who don’t get what is sarcasm and isn’t, it sort of ruins the fun.

[@shtboxgarage]

@@placebojesus5652 the idiots wouldn’t know what that means

[@fortypointer]

@@placebojesus5652 def ruins the fun

[@PunkMartyr]

Kid is a legit genius. He should be working for homeland defense.

[@ohio72213]

Well considering how he slipped up in a pretty sloppy way I'd say he should get some really good training before hand but I agree. Hell we brought over Nazi war criminals and said "hey you work for us and do your best, we won't charge you and you can continue living with your family here in the US with a great job and be free." We really should be using these people with great talent and smarts. It just makes sense lol

[@arizonatea3734]

He used an email with his full name..... Let's stop exaggerating. Dude had an education and good computer skills, a genius is very far fetched. He used his name and his time zone and also documented all his moves.

[@CloseYourBrownEyes]

@@ohio72213 And what's worst than human rights violating NAZI's that we must work together to defeat? That's right, the border jumping Mexicans! Let's get 'em all! GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE. Unless we're fighting Aliens, you're willing to absolve evil by using them to catch probably lesser evil? Imagine asking a Jewish employer to set aside their differences, and the fact that they probably incinerated his grand parents in the camps, so they can work together to catch a drug kingpin. I'll never trust Deep State.

[@primate9102]

Actually no he isnt, wasnt even that good with computers, made simple mistakes. But everyone will still think he is a mastermind, he was ahead of his time in a way, and that helped the image.

[@bb8328]

@@arizonatea3734 totally. Why would he ever use his real name for anything?

[@boxingproff7627]

Who has stopped watching JRE since he moved to Spotify?

[@kirkjohnson9353]

Completely . Hate spotify

[@90iatros]

Here in Romania sometimes spotify is down for days. And when it's up it pauses this podcast every couple of minutes. Some times it works good, but that is the exception in my experience.

[@projectvolna]

Can’t see any of JRE on Spotify at my country. Even with VPN (

[@joulupukki1607]

Nobody and if u hate spotify watch here

[@Txpo50]

I did...I downloaded Spotify to listen to Robert Bigelow and was severely disappointed in the whole deal...done with it

[@seventiescycle6566]

In case anyone was wondering what it was like in a 1990s coffee shop, this guy is a perfect example of who you might see there.

[@detectivebubblegum9777]

Lmfao

[@matthewishunting]

Very true

[@larsonfamilyhouse]

At like Central Perk?

[@thewind6047]

This is the same guy you see in 2022 at coffee shops lol, hippies will always be hippies brotha

[@Danielle-nz9tn]

@@thewind6047 Going to a coffee shop makes you a “hippie”?

[@ethanp2499]

its crazy to me that i literally spent what would be millions today a couple years ago on molly and dmt lmfao

[@st2udent_650]

Those times you got high? Priceless!

[@ethanp2499]

@@st2udent_650 not almost 5 mil priceless lmfao, i easily spent over 1k btc on there over a year

[@ezratheproducer6239]

@@ethanp2499 geez that hurts 😬

[@st2udent_650]

@@ethanp2499 Jesus That's roooough man Well your dealers are now millionaires if they held onto it 😂

[@jessescott775]

Wasn't millions so don't feel that pain but spent like 5 btc on fake IDs before college back in like 2010 😂😂 smh

[@KBTadieh]

Why anyone thinks a politician will "help" them is beyond me

[@waynzignordics]

They will when it's mutually beneficial. What benefit would Trump get from pardoning DPR? The people calling for his pardon were already voting Trump or never would anyway. You think Glenn Greenwald would ever vote Trump?

[@heyyaitsd1168]

@@waynzignordics Trump pardon lil Wayne and Kodak Black and they both are violent criminals kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnfcq6l_p6eUj9U

[@waynzignordics]

@@heyyaitsd1168 I think it was intended as black voter outreach. He retold the story of pardoning Alice Johnson a million times. He's a TV personality, and knows how to get the press to focus on him. What better way than "Trump pardons black rapper Lil Wayne!" to get headlines. That acts as the icebreaker ("hmm, maybe the Orange Man isn't actually a racist"), and then his pro-family and pro-America platform gets their votes (that was the strategy, anyway). Trump got a larger percentage of the black and Latino vote than any Republican president in decades.

[@JakeWitmer]

@@waynzignordics It doesn't help when you have "libertarians" like Penn Jillette encouraging libertarians to vote for the author of the RAVE Act because "orange man bad." Trump said drugs needed to be legalized in 1990. Google News once again allows you to pull up the Sarasota Herald-Tribune article with his quotes. Know what happened to Google News before the 2020 election? It was taken offline, because the prior facts, plus Biden's record could easily have caused Biden to lose the election. So much for "access to the world's information."

[@hazyviews999]

Trump literally pardoned Kodak black. It was a nice attempt though

[@nackedgrils9302]

Silk Road was the best thing that a responsible drug addict could have wished for. Amazing quality drugs (with ratings from the users), great variety, bulk prices, promos and everything neatly delivered to your door without having to go through the hoops of the usual ''street'' black market that's chock full of scammers, ignorants and unpredictable heavy drug users. I lost 4BTC on that day when the Silk Road 2.0 was shut down by the feds because I was just about to re-order. I was so pissed at that time because I was in a bad place financially and $400 was a big deal for me. Now that's worth more than $200K and the feds probably use my coins (and the other 20K BTC they seized on that day) to cycle money in the darknet in order to bust more people and also finance their operations. I'm so fucking disgusted that I hardly ever think about it. If there was one way to make buying/selling/using drugs safe, that was it. If maybe they were to stop the war on drugs, we would at last have a stable market where responsible people could make honest money selling good products to savvy buyers, but no. Just no.

[@vish6659]

That’s so funny.

[@megadeth-1a885]

maybe don't admit to a federal offence on the internet?

[@StoozeGod]

@@megadeth-1a885 have you ever heard of plausible deniability

[@loudorchen9897]

So 400$ was a big deal to you and you had it tied up in Bitcoin and on a deep web drug site? What could possibly go wrong?

[@loudorchen9897]

@@megadeth-1a885 this story is a lie

[@jacquelyn2643]

pay Barely Sociable a visit for the real deal.

[@ryanr4556]

Dude had such a great vid on this

[@TheSeanSpillane]

yup, this guy 110% absolutely deserved prison, fuck the conspiracies, these guy was an awful human

[@NeonMoon87]

That vid is better than this movie.

[@hughgrection7246]

Or Count Dankula

[@realghostboii]

i love that video!

[@lukenick2299]

How is this guy so uninformed. He was offered a deal to plead guilty to a crime with a minimum of 10 years and a guideline for life. They didn't offer him 10 years. Lawyers thought he had nothing to lose going to trial.

[@Robert1546_Sea]

What is a guideline for life? And if 10 was the min, what was the max?

[@rogainegaming6924]

@@Robert1546_Sea The minimum they could offer was 10, but the recommended guideline for the sentence would still have been life.

[@Seasniffer1969]

@@Robert1546_Sea life is 20-25 years then you're eligible for parole. If denied u just keep serving and try to parole out.

[@Weehawk]

@@Seasniffer1969 There is no parole in federal prison. Life is life.

[@fabolousjada5070]

Should’ve took the 10 like Brett did and came out in 7 or 8

[@johnnyshanksalot8358]

So when asked why he portrayed Ross as ordering hits, he just weaseled his way out of answering the question by changing the subject and saying he'd be willing to interview him... and Joe just went with it, didn't press him to answer at all. Gross.

[@iamM4SK]

Yep. Super weak. Tasteless interview

[@firecrow7973]

Joe showed his true colors when he signed up for spotify, he doesnt care about the truth or integrity.

[@r3wturb0x51]

@@firecrow7973 the truth is Ross did everything he was accused of. I hate it he got life but shit, hard to argue with the mountains of evidence the feds had on him. I mean I read the entire court complaint and saw the evidence presented, dude was not as smart as he thought and they basically just watched him commit crimes repeatedly because he thought he was being protected by TOR

[@shannonhill3356]

@@r3wturb0x51 should've just taken the goddamned plea.

[@WOOHOJEHA]

all evidence points to Ross ordering the hits

[@dustinroberts3445]

I always thought the Silk Road was a scam if I would have known those drugs were real.... I would have had a different high school experience

[@seanh21]

Ikr

[@jefferyampey7605]

Word

[@spencerjames5271]

Mine was that lol my friend was moving 30k worth of molly every month. Then got raided and lost everything

[@raptorgod77]

I was like 12 when Silk Road shut down

[@annfuckantifa5973]

@@raptorgod77 silk road still runs. Ross was a Patsy

[@dumidumibabi]

Spiritual contract: hey if you want me to make more money making another movie about you, then give a call. Lifer: please leave me alone.

[@Anarchistarchitect]

I know right 😅

[@itown4ever]

Sign the petition his parents put up. Almost 500 thousand signatures. He's already served 8 years - that's more than enough.

[@James1050]

He put hits on 2 or 3 people. Lolwut

[@BEmagiK]

For the love of God he’s a white man (rescue him!!) lmao gtfoh

[@thomaschamper9897]

Nah 8 years is not enough. The guy was a real sicko.

[@chrisporter9397]

@@BEmagiK Go and cry about Floyd overdosing some more

[@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262]

@@James1050 Bullshit, he was railroaded. America's gone full evil authoritarian

[@mwatts6755]

Think about the amount of innocent people that have died or spent their life in jail b/c of corrupt cops.

[@MattAttack11]

Yup! Corrupt people in general. they are everywhere, especially in anything that deals with money. greed = corruption. why you never fully trust anyone.

[@micharel937]

But he did try to get people killed by hiring an alleged hit man

[@wildheartxxx135]

True!

[@d.c.1059]

"Will you take 10 years???" "No." "Okay have 200 then."

[@DigitalNeb]

"Oh shit wow, OK, I'll take the ten years." "Nope. That ship has sailed my friend." "Please! I'm sorry. I didn't mean it!" "Take the prisoner to his cell."

[@NOtYpO]

@@DigitalNeb it is kinda bs how they can do that

[@DigitalNeb]

@@NOtYpO I hear you, but the guy did refuse a sweet deal. At some point you gotta question his judgement.

[@NOtYpO]

@@DigitalNeb 10 years is a kick in the balls. I feel like if your poor and you make it rich or get power without working a 9-5 the government gets butt hurt and throws you in a cage

[@MonkesReturn42069]

@@DigitalNeb A sweet deal? He should be free. Piss off.

[@garrettkato]

This guys shirt cuffs are like a super power. Mesmerising

[@Ellionator]

"Will the lies ever stop? Now they're saying I rejected a 10-year plea deal from my prosecutors. Where do they come up with this stuff?!" -Ross

[@AndyUrWald]

My OCD cannot handle those unbuttoned cuffs.

[@wabisabipapi]

not to mention that it looks fucking ridiculous

[@strongxhands]

looks like he’s attempting to take flight with his very own denim wing-suit

[@wabisabipapi]

@@strongxhands going straight to dickhead island lmaooo

[@Micahslooseearlobe]

That's not ocd buddy ocd is obsessive behavior bc you think something horrible will happen if you don't like snapping your fingers or crossing them and rubbing your hands on your face it's not just neatness

[@AndyUrWald]

@@Micahslooseearlobe First of all, I was joking around. Second of all, when something minute and irrelevant irritates you, or makes you want to change it uncontrollably, ala the unbottoned cuffs, that can 100% be attributed to being both OBSESSIVE and COMPULSIVE. Please don't feel the need to respond to this, I have less than zero interest in getting into a semantics discussion on OCD with some youtube troll. If you need to get the last word in though, go ahead.

[@justinbt]

The house never loses. And the illusion of you winning is all part of the houses plan.

[@rbibbe34]

I can’t fucking believe it. Bless you ross Trumps gonna be the best president we’ve ever seen. I’m so happy for him and his family.

[@LEGnewTube]

Ross Interview needed asap!!

[@heisnt1661]

Hey Joe. I like your spinning back kick.

[@weets2122]

Some scientists speculate that the big bang was caused by Joe spinning back kicking a cluster of infinitely dense matter.

[@rrpearsall]

Have some respect ADD.. An American hero is in a Prison for life.

[@bigcityclipz7033]

@@weets2122 A modern Chuck Norris.

[@CaptainMirro]

@@weets2122 facts!

[@dragonxz61]

@@weets2122 while high on toad venom

[@neotower420]

I have read about this guy like 3 separate times now in the last 10 or so years, the one who’s locked up. This whole time I’ve been living my life, he’s been in prison.

[@zenithlyncadet8984]

@idk blah blah blah blah blah He got people killed over a stupid site

[@J-lah7928]

He’s free now!

[@neotower420]

@@J-lah7928

[@colinhoward5067]

Free Ross Ulbricht!

[@James-ip5gz]

Why? He ordered a hit on someone. He's not a good guy. There's no proof he was framed.

[@Parialated]

@@James-ip5gz there is tho" since it never happened

[@wag0461]

@@Parialated nah bro he did

[@hagbard72]

@@James-ip5gz Would be nice if they counted down votes to see if you broke the record.

[@James-ip5gz]

@@hagbard72 I have 2 likes on my comment. You have none.

[@sterlingarcher389]

Tons of people get these crazy long sentences and never get a 2nd chance. It’s sad these people are locked up when they aren’t an actual threat to society but they just went down a wrong path.

[@sportsfiix]

This man ordered hits in multiple people

[@bonez8153]

idk if u understand but he runs his silk road like a mafia, those type of ppl do not change

[@mrtambourineman6107]

Totally agree - he never killed anyone or sold drugs, just temporarily managed SR , people don't get also how many lives he saved by making it possible to buy drugs in relative safety as opposed to the usual HIGHLY dangerous routes (street thug dealer wankers)

[@xombi213]

We all have the option of going down the wrong path. We choose not to. So what I live right and he lives wrong and I'm supposed to just be ok with that? No. Make the right decision or pay the price. The amount of pure absolute evil he financially supported earns him life. You do realize the amount of child molestation, trafficking, mules etc that happen from production to distribution, right? He supported that. The ONLY right choice is to not be involved. If you let your greed lead you to evil, you deserve what you get.

[@worldisfilledb]

@@sportsfiix never proven

[@DopamineChaser1]

Who is watching this now in 2025 now that Trump has pardoned Ross?

[@user-os1in7kt5j]

lyn ulbricht should be on the show, shes gotten really good at representing ross

[@-whackd]

#freeross

[@worldisfilledb]

How you figure lol, there’s tons of hard evidence against him lol

[@adammilne1341]

@@worldisfilledb where?

[@dancer1]

@@worldisfilledb what evidence?

[@worldisfilledb]

@@adammilne1341 maybe on his fucking work computer lol

[@makidiaz3894]

Damn time flies, dude has been locked up since I was 21, turning thirty this year

[@adekunleadebayo5743]

You're 33 now. How time flies

[@makidiaz3894]

@@adekunleadebayo5743 yes

[@brewmastermonk9356]

The feds wanted his crypto.

[@macintush]

@Griff -- they got it because his laptop was open and unlocked (he ran full encryption) when they destracted him and snagged it. If he closed the lid or had dual keys they would have not been able to touch shit Look up bill n teds Silk Road documentary if you wanna know more

[@thefacelessquestion3333]

@@macintush Dammit I was hoping they didn't get it.

[@SnailHatan]

@Griff - and bitcoiners would be wrong.

[@customerservice9776]

Tim draper has it now

[@Connection-Lost]

@@SnailHatan Please explain how a 128-character key can be guessed. (Anything over 40 characters would take every computer on earth working together about 100 years to crack)

[@mikea1094]

He was offered 10 years to life, up to the judge. I read an amazing book about The Silk Road called American Kingpin, it was actually a IRS Agent who figured out who he was. Crazy story...

[@imfknradio9978]

The IRS is what took down Capone. They couldn't ever prove he was related to the crimes he obviously ordered to be committed, but they could track his spending and prove in a court of law he spent more in a year than legally reported to the IRS and he got convicted of tax fraud.

[@annfuckantifa5973]

It wasn't Ross. Massive scam

[@bjorncarlgren710]

They got a hold of his servers in some crazy way too

[@mrasmussen90]

They definitely threw the book at him and made an example out of him. But from everything I’ve read and seen I believe that Ross truly believed he was ordering hits and those people were taken out.

[@mikewalters]

It's easy looking back now to say should have taken the plea but when in the moment 10 years is a heck of a lot of time to accept if there's one ounce of hope you can beat it

[@11thHrPro]

No, it's not that hard to look back and say he should have taken the plea deal. It is so hard to beat a federal case. I remember hearing or reading somewhere that upwards of 90% of all cases brought by the federal government against an individual, wins. You should check out the interview between Irv Gotti and Vlad TV. Murder INC records beat a federal case. He talks about the odds. It is so rare to beat a federal case.

[@mikewalters]

@@11thHrPro That's actually a fair point. I'll have to check that out

[@11thHrPro]

@@mikewalters Yeah man, it's crazy. The feds rarely lose. Lol

[@aveaniki]

He was never offered a 10-year plea deal. He was facing 10 to life if he plead guilty, and 20 to life if he went to trial. In both cases the prosecution said they'd be seeking the life sentence. In the end, he listened to his lawyers and took it to trial.

[@UberTankred]

If there is even the suspicion that the cops framed him - in a country like America!!! - they absolutely did frame him!

[@James-ip5gz]

Most likely he wasn't framed and deserves to be in prison since he took out a hit.

[@UberTankred]

@@James-ip5gz I know, the cops would never commit perjury to support the state's case! :D

[@AcidAlexx]

The movie is not accurate considering in the beginning they say "Everything is true except for what we made up and isnt" Barley Social on youtube does a great video on what happened with the situation

[@montesforeman5079]

Yes. Its the one of the only credible videos on this subject since its the direct chat messages from DreadPirateRoberts. Everyone interested needs to watch the BarelySociable video.

[@jsplit9716]

you could also watch the count dankula video about DreadPirateRoberts

[@AcidAlexx]

@@jsplit9716 I’ll check it out!

[@GE0attack]

@@jsplit9716 that was a good video

[@lexremillard2549]

It’s a movie

[@goldsbym]

Bottom line the Government and the pharmaceutical companies don't like competition.

[@burtgallagher6499]

Those cuffs give off major close-up magician vibes!

[@baileyandersen614]

A lot of my first psychedelic experiences (mushrooms, DMT, lsd) were supplied by SR. Thanks SR for making my 2011-2013 highschool experiences profound and transformative (:

[@Henkkaassouffle]

should have kept the BTC. unlimited coke and hookers

[@blank1778]

Safest and best LSD I’ve ever had was from the Silk Road. Wish it was still around I don’t trust the copy cat chemicals people are using nowadays

[@richarddemp2413]

WOW!! You are one "profoundly" cool dude.

[@nme6725]

Wel that’s one reason he is where he should be. Selling drugs to high school kids what a piece of shit

[@mfuhhhh4629]

king 👑

[@chadgessner4412]

Ross is out of prison. Get him on the podcast!

[@bujiba]

He's pardoned!

[@yourpersonaldatadealer2239]

Imagine spending your life trying to lock people up for buying temporary happiness and spiritual experiences in small plastic bags

[@johngalt1629]

I bet most of them are alcoholics.

[@Notoriousnipple]

The DEA really thinks people who use drugs are “bad guys”. They have a complex because they are misinformed and fat

[@yimmeistaryimmeistar7239]

AND dont pay Tax!

[@futureboi8517]

Yeah bro that sativa shit is nice

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

can't agree with heroine and fentanyl shit. Way too many degenerate addicts and homeless people with needles and shit. But psychedelics should be fine.

[@BanksQuiet]

The offer was not 10 years. The offer was 10years to life, and Ross didn't want to gamble on what side of that sentence the Judge would fall on. How on earth does the director not no basic information like this????

[@stevekennyufc]

How did you know this information my friend? That’s interesting if it’s true.

[@zoomyt6921]

@@stevekennyufc I actually recently read the book and i remember quite clearly that the plea was up to life in prison. (I also just checked on Wikipedia to make sure that i was correct)

[@stevekennyufc]

@@zoomyt6921 can you tell me the name of the book? Sounds interesting.

[@zoomyt6921]

@@stevekennyufc American Kingpin by Nick Bilton

[@stevekennyufc]

@@zoomyt6921 thanks! I ordered the book after a patient told me about it. I have the book, now I just need to sit down and read it.

[@jamchico]

“Preserve the institution/establishment” exemplified

[@forthehomies7043]

As a software engineer, Ross's case has always troubled me. Talented, smart, knew how to harness the powers of the Internet and technology, only to find himself to be the villain. Of course a life of imprisonment is awful in its own regard, but he will never lay his fingers on a keyboard or his eyes on a piece of software he created ever again. And through the blog his family posts for him, he regrets it every second of every day.

[@daniellizarraga4678]

Everything because of the ideology he followed

[@tezzymane9337]

What amazes me, is these guys actually think every Government agency in the world is incapable of cracking their encryption. Probably one of the most idiotic things someone can do is sell drugs on the internet lol.

[@EliW95]

you misframed the understanding of the situation, because either he simply regrets the risks he took or he is trying to appeal for a pardon. he did it because he was a radical libertarian who decided to put libertarian concepts into *practice*, and with the risks he took, he is *FUCKING HERO* who stood up to people that are *ACTUALLY EVIL* and you're evil too if you believe in authoritarian power and cult of government, because if you support the evil of the drug war, you're no better *in principle* than those who supported hitler, stalin, and mao

[@murphine969]

I seen the chat room threads and I never had a doubt it was the police. It definitely wasn’t the biker group it claimed to be because the entire club would be implicated and they’re not dumb enough to talk like that online or on the phone, it’s hard grained in their persona to be as discreet as possible, it just really didn’t ring true and the police clearly had the most to gain.

[@harrickvharrick3957]

You say you never had a doubt it WASN'T the police. So who did you think it WAS?

[@murphine969]

@@harrickvharrick3957 grammatical error. Thank you for bringing it to my attention haha.

[@bitchesihate]

Nope, not the police. It was just a random scammer who exit scammed on there

[@kevinisaboysnamepoopoofeve8486]

10 year plea to a whole life term is completely unjustifiable. They’ve already quantified his punishment as 10 years. Even giving him 20 years is pushing it.

[@JunkBondTrader]

well a plea deal isn't quantifying a punishment. It's giving you less punishment than you "deserve", for exchange of information that overall, is intended at least, to bring the most justice possible. That's how it's supposed to work anyway. 10 years is even overly harsh... I think sicne it was the first case of its kind they came down super harsh to deter it in the future. Then eventually they realzied that dark markets are going to happen no matter what with decentralized internet being a thing... so now if you get caught for it, which several have since then, its like a relative slap on the wrist. Ross really got screwed

[@Max_Krypto]

Thank God Trump set this man free and back to his family. Been praying since Sunday night

[@BackwardsKnees]

the movie skipped over A LOT of information when it came down to the murder for hire plots.

[@khingj1510]

What’s the film called?

[@haidengeary8277]

@@khingj1510 Silk Road

[@iliketurtles4761]

Where can i watch it?

[@MUFCFERM]

@@iliketurtles4761 netflix bro

[@eyeofenigma2307]

@@haidengeary8277 TROLLING 10/10

[@THopkins44]

Can you imagine the look on Ross’ face when he found out how much Bitcoin is worth now 😂

[@KikiNation1]

His freedom is a lot more precious than all that Bitcoin

[@iherduluvlawngdich]

@@KikiNation1 right

[@ibrahimabdullahi3077]

he probably already knew the projected growth of bitcoin way back in 2013

[@Deathroll6969]

He has plenty somewhere

[@ibrahimabdullahi3077]

@@Deathroll6969 too bad the dude has 2 life sentences so just swing me the bitcoin lol

[@genghischuan4886]

At the end of the day the guy is a victim to the unholy war on drugs or the monopoly of medicine

[@dazedandconfucioused992]

Also a victim of tax evasion...

[@haidengeary8277]

Yes, a total victim who allowed people to hire contract killers.

[@genghischuan4886]

@@haidengeary8277 yeah and I believe everything the policeman says blup blup blup

[@genghischuan4886]

@@dazedandconfucioused992 income tax is theft, I would evade thievery also

[@dazedandconfucioused992]

@@genghischuan4886 I agree although our overlords do not think highly of the evasion of thievery...

[@Take12music]

Regardless if he was framed for murder....there is literal proof that he hired hits on people he deemed to be a problem. These people were fake and he was being scammed...but in his mind they were real people with families. Not exactly an "innocent" guy IMO

[@mrschnider6521]

Dude. The 2 cops infiltrated silk road and became admins and had control of the server and all that. Then the officers took a million dollars or something around that large amount from one of the dealers and framed one of the admins because the dealer was pissed off and contacted ross asking for his money. This whole thing was all set up by the cops to steal the money then framed ross for putting out those hits. They are all unauthenticated chats, the whole thing was bullshit. i hope you get framed for some bullshit and locked in a max security prison we will see how tough your candy ass it then.

[@Off-mY-mEDDss]

He's free now. Thank You President Trump 🇺🇸

[@thefishdog]

I remember silk road and a ounce of weed was 1 bitcoin

[@chrisporter9397]

Imagine looking at the price of BTC today knowing you smoked that away a few years ago

[@bambaking6265]

@@chrisporter9397 LMSOOO

[@minibikemadman]

Yup crazy shit.

[@rrpearsall]

Hope that $50G OZ of weed was worth it.. 😆

[@bengsynthmusic]

@@chrisporter9397 There was a pizza that was purchased for 10,000 BTC. I don't want to imagine what that person is thinking now.

[@CaliforniaCarpenter7]

I can’t get behind this guy’s shirt. Those cuffs should be illegal - but he makes a good point, I never believed for a single second that Ross ordered a hit. Not only was he aware that his actions were being surveilled, but he had knowledge that an associate had been in contact with authorities. For a guy with probably a 160 I.Q. It makes no logical sense that he would do such a thing, and Libertarians don’t kill people, Ross would have to go against his deepest held principals and I just don’t buy it.

[@mitchellcurtiss4268]

Libertarians don’t kill people? Lol. Put down the crack pipe hoss. And smart people do dumb shit all the time

[@larrybrown1864]

Facts

[@worldisfilledb]

That’s incredibly vague and holds no weight cmon dude

[@TrevoltIV]

@@worldisfilledb literally two of the cops that were doing this exact sting operation for the hits, were proven corrupt that's vague? seems cut and dry to me

[@n8n888]

I know a guy who is his friend. Still writes to him to this day. Ross was going to be in his wedding. My friend believes he really ordered the hits. Food for thought.

[@kalinovskiy]

He was offered 10 years and he turned it down?!?! Dafuq was he thinking?

[@sea_triscuit7980]

Ten years is still a looooong time. I mean if there was a hope of him being found innocent, he strikes me as the type that would take that risk. Not to mention, they wanted to make an example of him

[@strongxhands]

I’m sure he regrets his choice now. At the time if I was innocent I probably would have done the same, thinking the justice system would seek truth. Unfortunately they don’t and we learn the hard way. Two life sentences is excessive and that judge was making a point with denying him any hope of parole. Shit is stupid man

[@degenerate82]

He didn't commit a crime

[@ryanr4556]

@@degenerate82 well that's definitely not true lol, but the sentence he got was absolutely insane

[@dontcare7086]

Seriously especially when your back up plan is a president pardoning you. Trump would have no reason to pardon this guy.

[@crizzonet]

The Feds always give you more time if you go trial because they have a guideline system. If you plead guilty you get at least 3 points removed from your sentencing level, and then of course they usually drop charges and you plead to only 1 or sometimes 2 of the actual indictments. Also, with his case, going to trial his sentencing guideline will have enhancements or increases because of the severity of the charges. That’s why there is a big discrepancy in the pleading guilty for 10 years vs the 2 life sentences + 40. I served 127 months in Federal prison. The Feds don’t have parole, so life is life.

[@CaliforniaCarpenter7]

That’s a serious bid, dude. I’m glad you made it out and hope you’re thriving! My stepdad served thirteen years Fed and he’s been out since the late 90’s. He’s a homeowner in Alaska and a relaxed grandad.

[@TrevoltIV]

super corrupt "justice" system

[@mendoblendo321]

Feds to 100% of their time?

[@crizzonet]

@@mendoblendo321 you can earn 54 days a year of good time, they can also take that good time away. you can get deductions for half-way house and drug program if you have addiction issues.

[@tommyaudio]

the movie was SO GOOD. being from SF and having been right down the street when he got caught, it kinda hits even harder.

[@customerservice9776]

he should of been out of the states

[@Wilsonag214]

What’s the name of the movie ?

[@sts3884]

Amazing how many of these clips I watch these days yet I have zero interest to join Spotify.

[@admiralboom481]

You need to go out to your local farmers market or supermarket and buy some marlene apples. Thank me later bruh 😃

[@danieldunscombe5238]

I like Spotify because while I’m working u can just play the whole episode. KZbin clips are more for like laying in bed, or when you have time to pick and choose parts of the show u want to hear.

[@Lucid_Anomaly]

Ditto

[@ma_junia]

I caved. It’s not that bad. His show is pretty self contained and there aren’t even any ads apart from his own

[@Lucid_Anomaly]

@@ma_junia we’ll give you a free premium upgrade for a year if you come back. Just have to pay a one off fee of £159

[@davidcunningham2074]

This director is a creepy guy who basically exploited Ross and now has the cheek to say 'I'll always be there to help you."

[@willpangman1273]

Plea deal was never offered. Get the facts straight. Have the family on, joe.

[@static.snow22]

His family is easily the MOST biased source he could have on this podcast. Ross may not deserve the exorbitant sentence he got, but he definitely believed that the people he ordered to have tortured and killed were 100% real. He’s a scumbag imo.

[@JakeDaMistake]

Joe Rogan has covered damn near every topic

[@ThePrisonExperience]

The reason he turned down the Plea Deal is because it gave the Judge the option to sentence him between a minimum of 10 years and all the way up to Life. He also wouldn’t have any rights to appeal. Since he took it to trial, the feds usually max out each charge’s sentence, but then you’ll be able to appeal it…

[@AyanMonroe]

Ross Ulbricht on Twitter, Mar 5, 2021: Will the lies ever stop? Now they're saying I rejected a 10-year plea deal from my prosecutors. Where do they come up with this stuff

[@ThePrisonExperience]

@@AyanMonroe yeah exactly he was never offered a straight 10 year plea deal… He was offered a plea deal that gave the judge sentencing guidelines between a minimum of 10 years and a maximum of life but he turned it down and went to trial… It was then twisted by the media that he turned down a straight 10 year plea deal.

[@ReactionzTBE]

I need that ross interview asap!!

[@Lockdown335]

"This Kids 36 years Old" LOL

[@aolegario1]

He’s already been in jail for 10yrs. The justice system is unfair

[@Sorel366]

@@aolegario1 *7

[@Eric-ey7rm]

Damn 2 life sentences plus 40...yea that's not corrupt at all.

[@karsten3780]

Government wanted to set a precedent for people looking to do similar things to Ross. This isn't corrupt.

[@saucejohnson9862]

@@karsten3780 setting a precedent is cruel and unusual punishment. 2 life sentences for a non violent crime.

[@Jay-yq6ry]

People who rape and kill get much less.

[@JP-rw5cd]

@@saucejohnson9862 would you feel better if he got 1 life sentence instead ? FOH

[@saucejohnson9862]

@@JP-rw5cd He should be free. People in the US government do way worse and walk free.

[@Shoe_On_Head]

not only that but they also illegally accessed the server the Silk Road was hosted on, whole case should be thrown out

[@VokeVideo]

Yanks don't rehabilitate. They simply punish. “A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals.” - Fyodor Dostoevsky.

[@Hinkle3]

Hard to believe he passed on a 10 year sentence, just to end up with life in prison.

[@Way2eZz]

Hurts my heart for him

[@ace200dr7]

That’s how them plea deals work u don’t take it they can’t retract the deal at any moment it’s scandalous

[@Hinkle3]

@@ace200dr7 That's why most don't risk trial, just crazy with everything he was facing he didn't take the deal. But I agree, if they offer 10, he says no they shouldn't be able to hit him with a life sentence, should be closer to what the offer was, maybe 15-20.

[@dutchschaffer4670]

My wife’s ex-husband is a corrupt cop in the town we live in, he has me pulled over at gun point all the time and the PD acts likes they don’t mind helping him do it. Shit sucks

[@Justi.n]

Sue

[@NeckNotes]

He will probably kill you at some point

[@tonymarselle8812]

Move

[@jspur6]

It’s as simple as a car camera friend, record your speed and driving, record your interactions with the corrupt piglet, and profit financially.

[@timmyturner013]

Sounds like he has issues and you should move

[@josephasad1077]

Y’all should seriously check out barley sociable Silk Road it goes into depth.

[@ethanad]

This guy just straight up exploited and lied about this fella, and said, ‘ I owed him a letter, I sat down and wrote him a letter...’

[@SF-dy6hn]

Great way to get someone to talk put them in prison for life with no chance of escaping and then kill their name in public then give them a chance to defend their name.

[@tonygicz8]

What movie are they talking about? Would like to watch it.

[@shawn2789]

He wasn't charged with murder. He was charged with things people did on his site.

[@strongxhands]

“It’s entirely possible...”

[@illmuskyhunter3313]

Makes up a bunch of shit, adds in a ferret...."he had the keys to the character down"

[@birdmusic1206]

I was thinking the same thing, I hope they didn't forget the goofy sunglasses and band t shirt too

[@noahziegler3478]

And he told the FBI's version of the story but hey he sent him a heartfelt letter lol. What a guy.

[@daveysquier]

dude i thought the same! so he added some some shit and that’s when they nailed the part!? This guy is so full of shit, Ross NEVER turned down a 10 year deal that he NEVER received.

[@rodolfobarros5460]

I met his mother at a libertarian convention and she was very distraught about the whole thing with slides and slides of supporting evidence

[@Luvurenemy]

Greatest JRE of the Spotify Era

[@brandonmcgillis]

Lol I’m watching a Silk Road video and get an ad for Silk milk ... I see you KZbin 👀

[@myshinobi1987]

Joe pretending that he's never used Silk Road 🤔

[@myshinobi1987]

@Jnk629 mmaattrr not now at least

[@UroborosX1]

remember this happened during the great American unifying liberation years of Obama

[@marcsalzman8082]

Right. Blame him for this shit. No get me wrong. Obama did plenty of wrong, horrible shit. Every POTUS since, idk, in my lifetime ( I was 2 when they killed JFK), has had ppl. killed, death pnlty. "WAR"/ police-military actions, a ton of shit we don't know about. Except MAYBE Jimmy Carter.

[@TheMasterTelevision]

The Alphabet agencies run with some level of separation from the President/administration in office. Theyre usually subservient to closed door congressional inquiries. Saying this was Obama's Administration's doing or fault is a bit of a reach. Obama probably only heard the official version about this from his advisors.

[@UroborosX1]

@@TheMasterTelevision what few obscuring sprinkles of glitter atop tiny truth we need anymore for entertainment. You're absolutely right it's all conjecture my friend, even the defense against guilt. But without all that JRE wouldn't even exist ;)

[@scorchtongue]

@@UroborosX1 On the one hand, i appreciate the effort to be pretentious. On the other hand, is it that hard to just say he's right. Americans are only going to get more stubborn if they get suicidal at this point.

[@reinman1987cancer]

Oh stfu just bc it occurred during his time in office doesn't mean he orchestrated the whole thing. The policies that effected this kids life where already in place for decades fool.

[@WOOHOJEHA]

Joe "I never used silk road or know anyone who used it but me and all my friends paid super close attention to all the news about it" Rogan

[@TOohigh2C]

Gov casually walks away with 3.5 billion dollars worth of Bitcoin.

[@customerservice9776]

they auctioned it off

[@PunkMartyr]

It should be illegal to hand out life sentences where physical harm wasn’t done to another human being.

[@theflickdon615]

So what are the drugs doing to all the people physically that Ross allows to flow thru his system? Lmfao... killing people , dude changed how drugs are distributed and sold... he had so much blood on his hands , use some sense

[@SWIFTzTrigger]

You could argue anyone taking those drugs that suffered negative consequences was dealt physical harm

[@ronaldsasser8902]

@@SWIFTzTrigger by their own choice . . .

[@SWIFTzTrigger]

@@ronaldsasser8902 is an addict doing it out of choice or rather a lack of control? Initially it may have been a choice, maybe peer pressure, maybe something else. But if it's an addiction it's not just choice.

[@jumpingbombangels2856]

@@SWIFTzTrigger So how bout all the people who die from overdose of prescription narcotics?

[@ballinblaza]

wish i still had my bitcoins from the silkroad days

[@rgaud8]

That drug money would be worth a lot of drug money right now.

[@brendondowdy5651]

Lol dont we all

[@inbox0000]

I have an account with a little bit that must be worth a lot now, if I knew the password..

[@increase9896]

oh yeah?... all your bitcoins that you used to have huh? i remember my first bitcoins. bitcoins

[@MegaBigmac87]

the deal was 10 years to life, he was worried that the judge might give him life so he turned it down

[@gumball5024]

10-life is such a random sentence

[@Lazy_Prophet]

That doesn't make sense

[@jonesper7016]

That's not how it works. 10 to Life doesn't mean the judge chooses a sentence between 10 years and life, it means you are sentenced to confinement for no less than 10 years, no longer than life. The Prison administration would set periodic reviews by a committee (i.e. Parole Board) and they would determine when between that range you got out. So "10 to life" IS the sentence, not "the judge would choose a sentence between 10 and life" now it is possible that ross was concerned the judge would not accept his plea deal, and as I know nothing about this specific case that could be, but what you initially said is just some internet nonsense.

[@Nickeltony]

The plea deal makes perfect since to me, if he accepts the 10 years then they know they have him under control, if they don’t think they can control him he’s dies in jail. All a control system

[@MisterRawgers]

For anyone curious, Casefile podcast made an amazing series on this, it’s here on KZbin

[@Sundog0811]

You wouldn't take the plea deal either if you knew you got framed.