TOPS OPERATOR 7 - PART 2 - ENDGAME - BLACKOUT DESTRUCTION TEST - UNTIL IT BREAKS AGAIN - 1075 CARBON

[@rickboz4494]

Thanks for the video JoeX Hopefully this will prevent people from making a horrible purchase That coarse grain structure is indicative of bad heat treating "Steel develops a coarse grain structure when it's slowly cooled or quenched from a higher temperature. Coarse grained steels are less tough and more likely to distort than fine grained steels."

[@joex]

thanks for the info!!!!

[@joex]

this grain looks really bad!

[@danielhallinan6740]

Yep its from overheating before the quench

[@rickboz4494]

@@danielhallinan6740 Interesting

[@danielhallinan6740]

@@rickboz4494 if you watch the how its made video on tops channel, you can see that their heat treatment consists of a guy fking up with a gas forge(yes, he is fking up even in few seconds of promo). This is how they can get such crazy results.

[@JoeBusic]

From bad to worse. Before there was a hardened edge visible. Not now. It should have a sticker on it "handle with care!". Seems like Tops is a souvenir seller.

[@joex]

yeah a very expensive souvenir!!!

[@bruutus99]

The most unhinged knife reviewer I have seen. Love it.

[@joex]

welcome to the dark side"

[@richardvignola8000]

Excellent video. Knife maybe worth $100, not $300. Whistle is cool for shopping malls when you loose someone.

[@joex]

100 is ok!

[@joex]

haha shopping mall!!!!

[@MichaelWhyte-j6l]

My wife walks in the room and hears the ting ting ting of a knife against the pole and turns around and walks out saying oh I can’t stand this guy 😂😂😂 sorry babe I need Joe x in my life 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@joex]

Awesome, i can send her a JOEX Shirt if she wants one! 👍👍👍👍❤️

[@MichaelWhyte-j6l]

Absolutely!!! Now she loves ya!

[@aliveandkicking1977]

Tnx for part 2. Good destructtest.

[@joex]

thanks my friend!

[@rottvang]

I rather watch JoeX instead of the Olympics! Fuck yeah!! 🍻

[@joex]

amen brother rottvang! i like boxing now! haha!

[@mikekomalley]

This is the only operator 7 video I've seen that goes far beyond unboxing and just talking about its size.

[@joex]

cool, i did 2 !!!

[@augustus63]

FLOPS Knives be like: Heat treatment? Never heard of him.

[@joex]

hell yeah! i really think that too!

[@marclucier2533]

When Joe X goes to a restaurant, the waiter tips him

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!

[@joex]

that actually happend!

[@marclucier2533]

@@joex Hahahahahaha awesome!

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

​@@joex: LMAO 👍

[@Snarlacc]

This knife is differentially heat treated, so it is pretty much expected to react this way. Edge is very hard, if you abuse it, it gets (microscopic) cracks but the cracks stop at the transition zone between hard and soft steel, if you then whack it on the spine it will open the cracks and split the knife like an axe does wood. (EDIT: Only some of their sales texts mention this, not all sellers do - someone on bladeforums mentions the transition between hard and soft is at the fuller, which would be a bad, very bad choice) Differential hardening also explains why it chips on the rock and why it still bends instead of breaking, only the edge is hard, just like with japanese swords - those things bend like clay if they get a bad sideways impact and break after only a few spine hits at the most where a through hardened blade will survive a lot longer (if it has a good spring temper maybe even longer than you have the energy to whack it) at the cost of being all over softer. It might not be as tough as a through hardened blade in some ways, but if the whole knife would be the same hardness as the edge, it would likely have broken already at the car. I get that this might not be what you understand as a tough knife, but it's totally expected for a differential heat treat with a very hard edge to fail like this. They did some design overhauls it seems which I imagine was to increase breaking resistance. The fullers on the old one had pretty sharp corners, which are stress risers and can lead to cracks, the newer fullers are rounded annd not as deep, so better for structural integrity.

[@CristianPozzessere]

Thanks man ,nice destruction test,I really like the photo roundup you put at the end of the video.Keep up the good work Joe you are great!

[@joex]

u are welcome! thanks!

[@jonbeck5945]

Tops needs to come out with a JoeX version of the Operator 7. Call it the operator X. Use a better steel or heat treat 1095 better and get rid of the recurve. I’m betting that’s why it breaks right there.

[@joex]

with TOPS NEVER!!!!! but it would be cool for sure!

[@joex]

u think the recurve! the fkn curve!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bobbie4862]

They need to get rid of the 1075 steel, the fake fuller and the choil. Go to the standard 1095 or even better 3v.

[@joex]

yeah maybe!

[@johnq.citizen8076]

@@jonbeck5945 it's that deep blood groove

[@ernesttolic6494]

Joe you are the best, you remind me of the guy from America who destroyed knives wearing a hockey mask about fifteen years ago.

[@joex]

thanks, i think u mean Jason!

[@GhostManCutlery]

Man, I forgot about that guy! The fanboys hated him too

[@ernesttolic6494]

@@GhostManCutlery He was first who started with destruction test od knives. Name NOSS.

[@squick1842]

Wow! You have put so much money into operator 7! 😄 I am hoping you will piss off some Spyderco fans in the future! You need to have a Spyderco folder video, no?

[@joex]

i will piss off everybody!

[@rickboz4494]

Spyderco makes some of the best blade steel & knives in the industry 👍

[@bobbie4862]

Classic Endura test. Woohoo!!!

[@vibeslide]

Spydercos are clearly made for cutting, not survival of any sorts. Joe would totally waste his money on those because they will break like a dried twig. I've seen a video some years back where a guy snapped the blade of a Para 2 with his bare hands, just like that.

[@squick1842]

Exactly. But the fanboys claim it is quality, tough and well made for self defense

[@lumengod]

When I see a 40 minute Joe video, I think wow must be a sturdy knife 😂 I guess not 😂 thanks for the surprise 😂👍👍

[@joex]

u are welcome!

[@Bad.Pappy.Official]

Awesome.😎

[@joex]

cool!

[@8626John]

The Joe X experience destroys another fanboi favorite. Awesome!

[@joex]

yeah it went to the river of tears!

[@joelwinkler484]

If you bend the tip straight (like you) again you could have a nice Speer with the only part of the knife that works

[@joex]

good idea!

[@singingtoad]

"Table Tops 7" lol 🤣 Don't ever change Joe. 👍 Another super entertaining video. Take care and Cheers!

[@joex]

thanks a lot! i try not get fkd by Karens!

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

Tops Flops. Again. Weird, that thick steel, good edge and tip, and the brake like that. Maybe a rushed heat treatment. Well, it KA CHIIIIIIIIINGed very nicely again for our 👑 Joe⚔️ ⚡🤟⚡

[@joex]

i pinned a comment! check this out!

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

​@@joex: I think he could be right ! Well, then Tops can send you a good one for free :-) End then .. part 3 LOL

[@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223]

Definitely taking this back off my cart. Wtf Tops!!! This is why i cant buy any of your shit!!!

[@joex]

good idea! dont buy this crap!

[@iratezombiemann]

You're doing great work Joex. Marlboro!

[@joex]

thanks!

[@DaDevil1983]

Love the channel. Thanks for the Stress Test my friend!

[@joex]

thanks a lot!

[@deadwolfresistance13]

U tube banned me, Let's chop up the u tube AI robot equipment, looks like we got the blades to do it!🗡 Marlboro 🤘⚔️🐎🤠

[@joex]

woke tube?

[@Pjotr1982]

They use cheap basic carbon steel and they can't heat treat it normally either.

[@joex]

and at this price they sell this crap!

[@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke]

2/2 with garbage heat treatment on this knife. This seems like a good place to mention that a bend is a failure just a much as a snap is. Mileage will vary some depending on use case between those for whom a snap is the more dangerous fail and a bend is the more dangerous fail. One can kid themself, but not nature, with bending a tip back the other way. It is super weak at that point. Many comments around here make me think there are some who don't know the difference between bend and flex. People who evidently are liable to kid themselves by bending it back. Sort of like Joe does, when in his case it is just for the sake of testing. See it most with people complaining stainless snaps before bending like if that, in isolation, is a bad thing. What matters is the amount it took to cause the material to fail more than the mode of failure - again, pending use case and which is more dangerous for you. But thinking something is fixed when it is very much not is prone to being a trap leading to the most potentially dangerous fail.

[@joex]

this one does not felx at all, it bends! like a mofo!

[@blueeyeddevil9441]

Outstanding job, JOE X. My 2 favorite TOPS Knives are the Operator 7 and the full-size Skullcrusher. Looking forward to getting one of your T-Shirts when they are available.

[@joex]

thanks!!!! Skullcrusher is cool, did better in my test!

[@rileyhawthorne3206]

Joe x puts the slam down on the operator 7! Aeesome video!

[@joex]

thanks bro!

[@Herpetile]

Marlboro !!!!!

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!!

[@heyarno]

Heat treating 1095 to bend like that and still break, is quite a achievement. Definitely not not indestructible in any way.

[@joex]

it is 1075 i made a mistake in the video saying but the break is so bad!!!

[@heyarno]

@@joex 1075 shouldn't fail that hard either. Those huge grains look like they cooked it to hell.

[@joex]

yeah true!

[@rustyknifelover4463]

Started out okay. Definitely an interesting one.

[@joex]

for the vitrine!

[@joseph8071]

I've had one acid rain version which held up perfectly but i lost it on a hike. The dangler broke. I had 2 blackout versions. First one broke and the second i sold. I recently got the midnight bronze and now im questioning my purchase

[@joex]

this blade is overhyped! by fanbois!

[@บัวสีโรเจอร์-ศ9ฝ]

That was cracked during manufacture. The black stain looks like the coating penetrated the crack when it was put on the blade. Great video Joe X 👍

[@joex]

thanks for the info!!!

[@YoungKB]

Cool vid. I've watched many of your videos. What are the knives that have actually passed the tip bending test, the brick test, and steel pole test? Don't recall seeing any that actually passed.

[@joex]

cool thanks, i made vids about that!

[@vladboy1]

Wonderful ❤️🤘🇺🇸

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!!!!

[@jkn2k]

Fkng love your videos , let's go !!!

[@joex]

Marlboro!!

[@TheHunter.2023]

Love you brother...🌿

[@joex]

love u too!

[@alienschmaliens]

Looks good to me as long as you avoid a brick or iron rod! But I'll be sticking with My esee 5 or strongarm! 💪💪

[@joex]

good idea!

[@Vitali2101]

Das ist fantastisch... Marlboro 🤙

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!

[@mixasid2464]

Joe! Joe! Joe!

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!

[@flemishlion69]

El brico olé olé olé olé you are the champion you are the champion.

[@joex]

thanks!

[@lumengod]

The tip bends but it shatters lower down, would that be uneven heat treating (even more than the handle not getting treated)

[@joex]

this blade is my mission!

[@faceeater6907]

thoughts on finger choils for large knifes?

[@joex]

not good!

[@franjoeric9699]

I just love you man HAHAHAHAH you are a legend, f*** legend

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!

[@simonbrown9310]

It performed well at first, but then its DNA kicked in, and it wanted to break like shit. A Tops knife will always be a Tops knife, so it will, eventually, do what Tops knives do : break. Cheers Joe 👍 👍 👍 !!!

[@joex]

thanks, u said it!

[@CrossroadWater]

The tip on my operator came off on its first trip out with extremely light use..

[@joex]

thats bad!

[@nightraid7]

This knife have a potential to be great in the future... Joe did you try Bone Tactical knives, Bone claims he have the best knives in the world 🙌🏻

[@bobbie4862]

Doesn't everyone. Joe will see???

[@joex]

i think this blade is nothing for the future! Bone nope!

[@heathenfromtexas7264]

Love your videos, they've helped me make some choices on where to spend my money. Would you be open to testing the esee laser strike?

[@joex]

thanks, currently i am too busy!

[@heathenfromtexas7264]

@@joex no problem

[@heyarno]

I see the manufacturers mark on that whistle. They can't be serious. All those years I thought you brought the whistle to make fun of those blades, because it makes that silly sound. And they seriously ship the knife with the silly whistle? They take the piss out of the customers.

[@joex]

all blades have that whistle!!! a FAN BOI WHISTLE!

[@greyowl8279]

And it withstood a lot for a car spring knife 😁

[@joex]

the car is carbon steel!

[@TheGunsNBlades]

TOPS, Leo specifically, needs to take the goddamn fuller out of it like we have been telling him for almost 2yrs now………and redesign it as the TOPS OP7 version 2. 😂 False advertising TOPS! Can I get a replacements when the version 2’s drop? In 3v steel?

[@joex]

i want 2 new one too in MAGNACUNT!!!!!!

[@joex]

u need to make another reaction vid!

[@TheGunsNBlades]

@@joex coming up.ll.l

[@nobodyatall7039]

People say that these tests constitute terrible abuse and they're right, but 1075 with a soft heat treatment should never break. At worst it should bend. I've had full length machetes in 1075, 1065, and 1055 that you could not damage in any way if you tried. The Ontario machetes were 1095 and even with those, I could keep one in a freezer overnight, then immediately run out and smack it as hard as possible on it's side against a telephone pole repeatedly and not break it. Bottom line is, if a carbon steel knife with good tang geometry is breaking from anything then the manufacturer is doing something very wrong with either the forging or heat treatment.

[@joex]

karens say a lot! but gives a fk!

[@joex]

Tops is overrated!

[@Cata-Holic_Doode]

Right now Southern California is too humid for VACHINA blades

[@joex]

thanks for the info!

[@bobbie4862]

Tops seriously needs to sick the engineers on this and fix this crap. This is bullcrap.

[@2fast2block]

Tops at the Bottoms.

[@joex]

most of them!

[@lordseyren5454]

Tops might gonna make Joe X limited edition with 1045 material (S45C axle steel). 🤣

[@joex]

fk that bro!

[@lordseyren5454]

@@joex 🤣🤣🤣

[@joemisak7925]

More than one thing has some screws loose in this video 🤣🤣🤣.

[@joex]

i know! 2 screws in that blade! so weird!

[@russellcharles7839]

That is the weirdest heat treatment ever. Didn't stand a chance.

[@joex]

yeah so weird!

[@russellcharles7839]

@joex If you heat treat the whole blade the go back and reheat the back to take the temper away you can fuck up the steel over doing it. They are doing something wrong. Not sure what but that was just shit.

[@joex]

i think the hole company is kind of shitty!

[@denisl7503]

Based on what I see - you love this knife design just fu... off.. on steel....I agree... buy one more and keep it

[@joex]

TOPS is even better than CIVIVI!"

[@hammer1794]

I'd still buy one, as I think it's still a knife that will,do well in most situations.🤷‍♂️

[@joex]

cool!

[@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397]

Good destruction test. Exibits validations for your same tests for same model knife with nearly identical results. Would you say this knife's failures are do mostly to design? materials? production process? or hype stuff? Sad, plus it is curious after 2 times having same results. Good show Joe... kinda feel bad for Tops... but is what it is.

[@joex]

this blade is marketing gag by Flops! fkn unexeptable!!!!!

[@joex]

i think the production process! the blade shape is cool! so the handle, 1075 shoud not brake!!! the heattr. is BS!!!!

[@loupfeu]

I hope you're fine. It seems you look for the "Holy Grail" of knives, a knife that can be; machete, hachet, cold chisel, crowbar, spear & scalpel all in one knife. Nothing wrong about that, a knife to get lost on an unknown planet I guess. Maybe one strong handle with 5 detachable blades, a bit more heavy but a lot more could be done. :)

[@joex]

i look for the holy pussey, which tastes like honey!!!

[@loupfeu]

@@joex ........alright, it is sure now that you will find the ultimate holy knife way before.

[@antchung2370]

Only the tip she said..😜 Long live King X 👑

[@joex]

thanks bro!

[@Slod_the_Sasquatch_1095]

Joe broke it faster this time because He’s getting better or stronger at His craft! You’re not even in your prime yet Joe! You already endured the Karens ! Thou shalt conquer!

[@joex]

nah, i was stronger back then! it is a bs blade!!!!

[@joex]

fk the Karens!

[@RotorBoltForce]

Will there be any testing of the Extrema Ratio Tuscan soon? :D

[@joex]

nope!

[@g4tnewnewg4t48]

$185 as of August 2024. After $50, just buy additional correct tool.

[@joex]

ok!

[@gizmocarr3093]

Indestructible, not so much! I think the price is too much, maybe the whistle makes it cost so much!👍😆🤣

[@joex]

for 50 i will buy another one!

[@SirPraiseSun]

6:20 what kind of tree is it from? dam

[@joex]

could be cherry or oak

[@Chantalicious74]

In today’s world AI is taking over more and more, also the knife business so that means things are not going to be better. Oldskool is bestskool lol. Like you said Tops will never bring out a Joe X version but maybe some other brand will..🔥

[@joex]

fk AI

[@CurtArnsdorf]

The only thing that survived this test was that dam whistle. When is El Bricko going to meet it. This is driving me nuts, toot, toot.

[@joex]

i will test that whistle!

[@jacobquigney163]

Much better test. The tip test was good but they still run their treat soft. They dont even use machines to test the heat treat as one guy just eye balls the steel and goes with his gun. Too soft and it breaks with a few power smacks from joe x. Maybe you are just too strong? Invite a fanboy to come smack the brick

[@joex]

i am a woke people, def not strong!!! yeah this dude from tops, i saw the vid, so crazy!

[@MattKsomething]

Breaks after 7 ? ........... Tops of the Pops

[@joex]

fkn Marlboro!!!!

[@stevenrobertson6656]

But the whistle is good...

[@joex]

yeah!

[@joelasso5057]

Marlboro

[@joex]

fkn Marlboro!!!!

[@enchopicopico]

Fanboy alarm fanboys prepare to cry

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!!

[@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223]

Bahahaha. Fuck yea

[@joex]

@@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223 👍👍

[@brr8888]

It’s a heavy blade smacked against a brick so…

[@joex]

it breaks!

[@bobbie4862]

I get what your saying but, other heavy blades held up far better. I love the design but the execution sucks.

[@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223]

Bet you my Esee 5 wouldn't even flinch.

[@bennaturan8862]

I dare you to destroy a victorinox pioneer

[@joex]

u will never do!

[@knifestory]

Tops fanboys are in shambles with this one!

[@joex]

Fanboi Alarm!

[@airiksknifereviews9548]

They should stop doing that extreme differential heat treatment. It's clearly excellent on the edge and tip they might as well heat it up a bit more . Heck even the old China 1095hc Shrade SChF9 could do better. ...Not today's Schrade but before they sold the company.

[@joex]

they should listen to us, not to the fanbois!

[@jacobquigney163]

Tops apache dawn next pls? 🥹

[@joex]

not really!!!

[@iscariotproject]

gasforged 1095 with a hrc scale large enough to park a car tells you that not even tops knows what the blade hardness is...thats ok on a 50dollar knife not ok on 400 dollar knives...garbage knives

[@joex]

i must agree!

[@bobbie4862]

Operator Seven is 1075. Your point still applies.

[@anthonylubic]

It’s under $200 US

[@iscariotproject]

@@anthonylubic no its not list price was 320 usd

[@anthonylubic]

@@iscariotproject not sure where you live but I have two of them cost was under $200 US

[@vortexecho72]

What do you do when you hear a TOPS whistle in the woods?....RUN AWAY , because ..... (your answer below)

[@joex]

exactly !!! fkn Marlboro!!!!

[@centralfinitecurve-ling...]

Well shit. I don't want no damn knife if it can't chop a brick a thousand times without breaking!

[@joex]

i agree totally!

[@joex]

like and subsribe!

[@centralfinitecurve-ling...]

@@joex Oh you better believe it!

[@c.h.u.d]

The skullcrusher sxb is probably the toughest blade tops makes

[@joex]

maybe

[@johnq.citizen8076]

The King of Ping strikes again! Who is the King of Ping, Joe X or El Bricko?

[@joex]

must be the prick bro!

[@johnq.citizen8076]

Damn it, Joe! When you started yelling "What the fuck, Tops!?!" I laughed so hard I hurt my dislocated rib. Pretty sad that a $30 Glock knife lasted longer against El Bricko than this $300 piece of shit.

[@joex]

@@johnq.citizen8076 yeah true!!! i needed to edit a lot of out of this vid, too much cursing

[@podunkmissouri4999]

What are you doing in commiefornia? All the Cali people are going to Tennessee 😂 that's where smokey mountain knife works is!

[@joex]

ok thanks for the info! i will be there someday!

[@JoeyKnifeInnovations]

Possibly uneven heat treatment. Hard to say for sure. Really costly knife for such a handle and blade.. Sorry you had to spend so much money for that.

[@joex]

i did it for the world to see! thanks!

[@JoeyKnifeInnovations]

Yeah you keep fighting but youre not alone. We are with you all the way.

[@wellregulated8725]

California?

[@joex]

it is code for transgenderland!

[@wellregulated8725]

@@joex ahhhh

[@Pjotr1982]

Really bad grain structure. Such expensive knives and they are too lazy to normalize the steel before hardening. What is wrong with them?!

[@joex]

greed!!!!!!

[@Pjotr1982]

@@joex They probably rely on the fact that the customer will be scrupulously careful when using such an expensive knife and will not sufficiently check its quality.

[@g4tnewnewg4t48]

Anyone can do that to domesticated bottles

[@joex]

do it!

[@g4tnewnewg4t48]

@@joex find a bottle in the wild, untamed.

[@g4tnewnewg4t48]

@@joex after $50-100, minimal benefit in quality.

[@Yperkeimenos]

Fanboy tears are the best.

[@joex]

hell yeah!

[@mbawewe1]

Crash bash😂😂😂😂😂

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!

[@lovebitcoin813]

Fanboy whistle 🤣

[@joex]

Marlboro!!!!

[@Mortem_Tyrannis_24]

Very disappointing. Tops needs to step up their game.

[@joex]

or sell their blades for 40 bucks!

[@Titi.24]

300€ for knives with 1075 steel. Only 🤡buy this. I prefer to buy all terävä for the same price as this shit.

[@joex]

good idea!

[@Gorvikk]

T.O.P.S The Options are Pretty Shit

[@joex]

exactly!

[@svensvensson627]

says more about the shitty car hahaha. Very thinn sheat metal

[@joex]

the car is old school! like me!

[@svensvensson627]

I'm disappointed with tops. I had higher thoughts about them

[@hawkblood88]

Tops makes 💩 knives!

[@joex]

most of them!

[@hawkblood88]

@@joex could you try out one of their 154 CM steel knives?

[@joex]

@@hawkblood88 did that!!!

[@hawkblood88]

@@joex damn! And I really thought CM 154 was a good steel! Looks like Marlboro is the way to go! 🚬

[@greyowl8279]

How many push-ups did Joe X do? All of them. How does Joe X do push-ups? He pushes the Earth away. 😁

[@joex]

yeah, i can do that!