John Deere 6170r engine troubles

[@JNG4600]

hi there, i am an engineer from the UK, over here those new john Deeres struggle to run on our standard red diesel as it is too high in sulfur, they don't like it, so the owners sometimes have to import diesel from ireland which has a lower sulfur level, load of crap to me aha. im still in the apprenticeship stages of my career and have learn a lot from your videos, keep up the good work.

[@Dr_Dungheap]

Looking forward to the engine rebuild and new lighting. Good on you letting others do the climbing up to the ceiling.

[@twistedmind5573]

I am so glad I gave up being a John Deere mechanic when they started computerising stuff. The last series that came out when I was a mechanic was the 60 series. Last tractor I worked on was setting up a new 4960 for it owner. I can't imagine working on the crap they design and build now.

[@Erated78]

Hey great video. I'm a new subscriber, sent to you from Andy at Farming Fixing and Fabricating. I cannot believe the trouble the new diesels are having across the industrial field. I've been really enjoying your vids, your diagnostic and repair work is excellent and fun to watch. Cheers

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Glad to have you .

[@nicke1903]

Fire Trucks are the same way Idles to much for this Emission crap, $400k Heavy Rescue and stays in the Shop over Emissions.

[@evadevries2952]

There was a time when 2800 hrs was just well broke in. This was the same time when clean fuel and air were important to an engine. Now they feed them their own exhaust and this is the result. Damn. Soon farmers will be swapping in old detroits.

[@DoRC]

Something I learned about Allen bolts is the importance of the highest quality Allen wrench possible. Cheap and even moderately prices Allen tools are more likely to round the bolts and themselves than really good ones are.

[@mr.h4714]

Do R/C! Absolutely spot on, that and I would add use Allen sockets on a wratchet and extension whenever possible , those little L shaped Allen keys are a nightmare to use and are part of the problem rounding bolts. Believe it or not a nice 12 or 14 volt Milwaukee impact will remove those better than. Most anything if ya have the room. Anytime I have one starting to round out I'll get the impact and lean on it hard and pop the trigger a couple times and it almost always gets er done...

[@cineminded]

nice video, Looking forward to the new lighting

[@ajmac5735]

You could install a set of Anderson plugged jump leads. They are the best as they’re hard wired to the battery.

[@matwalker6336]

At least you told them.... it is exactly what you said... no modern diesel will idle like they used to. They have to be up to double idle at least to create the boost/heat needed to make them run right. So much is to do with operator error but who ever took them aside and said ohh by the way we have completely changed the way you need to operate equipment?????

[@marcelosag3443]

Excellent channel Greetings from Buenos Aires Argentina.

[@Tf9500]

These tractors need a egr delete it’s another case of designed to fail, and the poor ole farmer pays for it again. These should run 20000 hours trouble free for what they cost

[@brethenneke2092]

Gotta love the EPA.... Great work though!

[@DanBamber]

Our 6150R did the same at around 2800 hours. John Deere stood the cost of it at about £6k. John Deere quality hahah

[@Lucky4wd4840]

We only had one jumper cable once so we parked the truck we were using to jump off unit close enough to put piece of steel with vice-grips on both ends for ground cable.

[@tamellison5839]

"Screw the farmer trying to make a living" as long as we keep the EPA happy thats all that matters.

[@jasonbeaudoin8359]

Sometimes I find one of the best tools in my tool box is a pen... How much do I owe you. Lol

[@FredFlintstone21]

Hey Warren I watched this video again to learn more from you. Now that this motor is all done, in this video you said the dpf is plugged. In video rebuild 2 or 3, you mentioned the valve lash maybe took the motor out. Me just watching and trying to learn, if they have you check the lash once a year, and follow the regens, this motor takin a shit *in theory* shouldn't have happened. On my new '17 2032r jd, it will tell you when you need to do a regent, you can skip it once, then it will supposedly go into limp mode at some point to protect the motor. This 6170r didn't seem to shut down ahead of time, and or the valve lash was so bad it took the motor out.

[@connorvelthuis2221]

FredFlintstone21 Don’t know if you watched the following vids, but at this stage it’s too far gone. The engine may or may not have done its regens but in the end it dropped a valve or two because of the egr.

[@jaybee2344]

Well it should have done many of regen at this point. The DPF needs to be cleaned out regularly too. They can and SHOULD use Power Service fuel treatment to reduce soot build up.

[@jammin60psd]

Ironically we just put a motor in a 6170r with about the same hours for the same issue it's a PowerQuad machine so not ivt but man I miss the 30 series machines.

[@KMEnterprise]

You would love my job. 95% of hardware on our machines are Allen bolts.

[@smalltimefarming8550]

Hey I was wondering where you got your diagnostic computer from and what system you're running I was thinking about getting one but wasn't sure what would be good?

[@billjohnson7613]

What are you using for wiring diagrams and such on this newer equipment? I have the TEXA but find it coming up short a lot of times on the technical side lately.

[@connorvelthuis2221]

How many hours on that thing? I have a 6150r and it blew the motor at 754 hours. Little pinhole in the block drained all the water. Thank god for warranty but I don’t like 6 months of downtime. Edit: i see the hours now.

[@noelhohberger1188]

Emissions is just a nightmare

[@noelhohberger1188]

Oh I don't care what color emissions are just a pain in the ass

[@4gauge10]

Michael Mac Tavish Kabota DOES NOT built a big enough tractor for one thing,the MX-135 is smaller then a 6170R and they have just as many issues with the engines as Case/I.H. and Kabota.

[@prevost8686]

4 gauge Emissions is killing all engines regardless of paint color. We used to get 1-1.2 million between inframes on 12.7 Detroit’s. If you get half that on the 13L Volvo’s that replaces them you’re doing good. I will keep my pre- emissions tractors. They will last me the rest of my life.

[@nicke1903]

Kubota makes up to 170HP in M7 Series,but if I'm not mistaken a bigger Row Crop Tractor is in the works,the M7 made it long enough to have Gen 2,be wild to see a 250hp Bota

[@donald1056]

You need to put an extra set of jumper cable in the service truck - suggestion only

[@jimball816]

on your dell laptop what diagnostic software are you using ? how much does that cost. thanks

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

jim ball That is Texa diagnostic scan tool. It works on case ih , deere , challengers , kubota, and jcb and many others, also works with cat , cummins, Detroit, mercedes and all major truck manufacturers foreign and domestic. For the ag - construction and truck software runs 7,250.00 . If you have any questions about it I am a dealer for these. Thanks for the question.

[@genarocastellon8030]

@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 how do obtain that software for my computer?

[@sepresley1]

i wish they made tractors like they used to. too much computer bull crap

[@KLX1990]

i see a lot of similarity between that engine and the dd13/15's. like one of them copied the other

[@wyrtwister4260]

Do these tractors have something like the OBDII connector / port on a late model car ? Thanks , :-) Wyr God bless

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

+Wyr Twister They have a 9 pin deutch connector. Which is pretty standard for heavy duty industry.

[@wyrtwister4260]

Thanks , :-) Wyr God bless

[@aaronw8836]

What would cause a 6110R to blow a cylinder at 1400 hours?

[@motorsandmore990]

Thats a damn shame, why the hell do you need emissions control on farm tractors? Thats stupid. Its like choking the engine alive!

[@jaybee2344]

It's easier to jump start via the starter.

[@donald1056]

Are you saying can or cam

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

+Donald Ellett both

[@mzimm460]

Ok I could hear the dead cylinder why couldn’t you? Yeeeeessss I am the king!

[@nicke1903]

A Queen

[@blacksmoke5009]

Someone spray a little mountain air in to her to get her to start? Dpf plugged and then try to keep running it to get job done had to have had a pwr loss no? Oh do you have that delete harness part # for that Case park brk. There buddy ? Lol I know your busy but if you get a chance text or email it to me thanks bud 👍

[@ryangletty1219]

if you need help rebuilding that thing maybe one lonely farmer guy can help you watching his 4010 rebuild video i'm confident he has it all figured out lol

[@finlandfarmer1860]

Amateurs need help from pro's. OLF is the amateur.

[@RJ1999x]

Finlandfarmer you got that right

[@JSokil]

Should install a 12V power on the outside of the service truck, or at least if you get a new service truck....less having to open the hood.

[@JSokil]

EGR & DPF Delete Time.

[@farming4g]

Emission's $#!T is right! SCR isn't perfect either... Got any SCR horror stories?

[@stevenherner298]

Get your battery charger and ether

[@samrugtiv3839]

Sounds like it has a bad cylinder warren

[@donald1056]

Are tractors better or worse with computers ??

[@motorsandmore990]

Donald Ellett it depends, they require less maintenance and are more reliable, but they dont last as long, the main problem is the emissions control systems.

[@Ethan-ck6iz]

They're good... without emissions

[@Ethan-ck6iz]

It seems kind of ridiculous how such a rare thing such as a tractor "needs" emissions b.s.

[@prevost8686]

EthaN They don’t need it and before the emotionally driven tree huggers try to have a meltdown I can explain. The whole notion is to lower fossil fuel emissions. The problem is that it takes far more fossil fuels to produce these complicated emission systems, more fossil fuels to repair and maintain them, more fossil fuels to replace them because of shorter service life’s and more fossil fuels to recycle them when they’re in boneyards, more fossil fuels burnt because they don’t get the fuel efficiency of pre-emission tractors and finally more costs to the consumer to pay the farmers for the increased costs of doing business.

[@donald1056]

Those computer jobs pay pretty good don't they - how did that piston break on that few hours

[@daleolson3506]

Donald Ellett ether?

[@connorvelthuis2221]

Engine eating its own poop.

[@ggem8125]

If JD ships tractors to China are they loaded with emission BS. Or does pollution only matter when it comes from US activity

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

G Gem I'm sure china is exempt from it , but we get to destroy our economy with this made up problem , and then give billions of dollars to the U.N. so they can use our money against us.

[@nickhoffman5336]

Do you have a part number for the cluster of 3 hydraulic gages you have?

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Nicholas Hoffman google tetra gauge

[@RJ1999x]

western truck and tractor repair not any more Trump defunded the UN bigly!

[@spukduk5632]

hipster garlic

[@dakhlastreet4643]

سلام عليكم ورحمة شكرن ميكانيك جوندير

[@samrugtiv3839]

Sounds like a dead hole

[@chuckpyle1624]

What computer company are using to scan your trucks

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

+Chuck Pyle Texa diagnostic scan tool.