John Deere 9430 water pump disaster (Part 1)

[@kisselectronics8360]

I don't know anything about tractors ( I grew up on a old fashioned dairy farm in Connecticut ) but your presentation is fantastic and compassionate.

[@sleepyta]

Good ol 13.5. Never fails to disappoint. Good job on the video

[@grantarollins]

I just did a new water pump in our 9530T. Never thought to check if the shaft was true. Maybe somebody dropped that one and put it in the box anyway. The whole point of changing it was to prevent this catastrophic failure. If that was my tractor I'd be very pissed.

[@ZKMasterTech]

Yeah that’s what we think happened. But Deere is paying for a brand new complete block assembly. So the customer is getting a brand new engine for the bad part.

[@ShainAndrews]

@@ZKMasterTech Good to see JD stepping up. That is a pretty good situation for a pissing match.

[@idrive308]

@@ZKMasterTech my joking comment was going to be "its a water pump replacement..whats the worst that could happen" wow! 😬 good on Deere for stepping up!!!! Thats rare these days

[@lowermichigan4437]

@@ZKMasterTech good on JD for doing that. If I was the customer I would be angry at 1st but quietly happy to get a 0 hr motor for that cost.

[@travelinman70]

@@ZKMasterTech Way to go JD!!! What about the labor?

[@robertreznik9330]

My neighbor bought a 9600 combine. During harvest the unloading turret failed. Then the water pump was replaced the water pump shaft broke which caused the block to crack. After that a tornado took out the combine. Now how can a combine be so unlucky?

[@shadowbanned69]

Sorry for your loss...

[@ZKMasterTech]

Thank you. Jake is the reason why I started this channel. He had his own KZbin channel that we were both working on and before he passed away he wanted me to pick up the torch and carry on. So I did. The goal was to get 1,000 subscribers and when your just starting out it's actually really hard to get and when I actually got 1,000 subs it was an emotional day for me. Then when I got 10,000 subs it was emotional because I wanted to share the moment with my best friend. He was like my brother. We worked together every day. Road back and forth to work together most days. I miss him very much. So I dedicated this first episode to him.

[@Rx7man]

@@ZKMasterTech losing good people suck :( Congrats on the 10K.. I recently found your channel, i think I was watching Western truck and tractor repair when the algorithm suggested you.. you do good work, despite having to work on green lemons :P

[@Jasonbourne69]

Sorry for your loss brother I know I’m a little late but it’s the thought that counts

[@ZKMasterTech]

Thank you

[@michaelandcolinspop]

As a non-farmer myself, your channel is fascinating and a tribute to great mechanics and the big machines that feed this world. Also, Snap-On and Milwaukee, but that’s another topic entirely. They also make me wonder about what small part on my little John Deere garden tractor is going to catastrophically break and take the whole thing with it. Apples and oranges, I realize, but deep down, you’ve got me asking “what if…?” about that Cub Cadet I didn’t buy. Oh, well, there are grass clippings to harvest and my Deere is the machine for the job. I’ll just keep up on the maintenance schedule and cross my fingers.

[@blueridgeburnouts8265]

I've had a time-gear issue twice like this ...once on the coldest day of winter shortly after warmup and once in the heat of summer under heavy load. I suspect temperature/temperature changes (i.e. Shock) has a lot to do with it.

[@daniel_poore]

I like the Si-fi music / sounds you put over the video and photos of the 8rx. Lol! Iam not in the Ag business in any way, but man I really like those 8RXs... surprised no one else is really competing in that size and form factor tractor, being all track at that size, and not being an articulate. So cool!

[@LizJoyDolan]

Your job working on giant machines already stresses me out. So that music doesn’t help my panic level 😆

[@tonymoore5568]

Love your music.

[@Panhandlefarmer1999]

Note to self keep buying caseih

[@heatherfletcher6671]

Enjoy your videos. How long to comfortably change the thermostats and how long would it honestly take you to change out that water pump ? Not including time to drain or refill coolant

[@gregkeller8372]

You mean to tell me John Deere can’t make their water pumps with out factory defects ? Do they out source their parts over seas ? One defect takes out an engine . that’s unacceptable.

[@robertkenney-oles5948]

Yes, as with all big corporations, they source the cheapest parts possible.

[@morganberk5718]

What were the symptoms for changing water pump at customers shop? Was the crank case full of water? Was it leaking out the weep hole? What was wrong?

[@ZKMasterTech]

We change the water pumps on those tractors at 1500 hrs for preventative maintenance because the water pumps can go out and the bearings go into the timing gears.

[@LAWSON08]

Water pump failure is a common problem on this model of Deere 4 wd. As stated the bearing can go into the timing gears. Although the new water pump is supposed to have a cage to prevent that from happening, when it goes bad, it goes *really bad* and you're talking tens of thousands

[@robpeters5204]

Where was the water pump manufactured?

[@ZKMasterTech]

Im not sure

[@jockmcsporran6088]

​@@ZKMasterTech Made in USA Manufactured in China

[@prjndigo]

Always check for bees. If you don't know the joke I simply cannot share it on the internet. _Always_ check for bees.

[@farmshoffman8475]

Great awesome video Zeth. That didn’t sound great after u started it . Metal on the magnet 🧲 yikes . Not good

[@BRPFan]

Dang that’s unreal!!

[@toddpeters9007]

Wtf, frustrating,at least , glad Deere is paying ,or customer would flip out , good work!

[@kentuckyteck9302]

Dang... that’s so serious destruction

[@theotherwhiteguy1]

Damn good video keep it up! I work on cats all day it’s nice to see some green stuff to cleanse the pallet 😂

[@ZKMasterTech]

Thanks!

[@jasoncapozzolo497]

I would never reuse an old oil cooler that had metal going thru the system. Cheaper to just replace

[@agger838]

This escalated quickly

[@rogerweber8194]

How many hrs are on these vehicles that need major maintenance?

[@petereriksson1390]

This is a school example what a realy simple problem, the waterpump give problem No 2 that give failure 3 and so on, nightmare! From Peter Eriksson Falun Maskin Service Sweden Europe

[@bertrutledge4546]

Surely Deere will eat most of this since it was a new water pump. Hope the customer is understanding. I know you will do all you can to get this running again. Thanks

[@ranielferreiradossantos3103]

John deere 9430 engine passing lubricating oil to the water tank we have already touched the heat exchanger radiator the gaskets and the water pump what can it be?

[@ranielferreiradossantos3103]

if anyone knows the answer please

[@ZKMasterTech]

It is either the oil cooler or the head gasket.

[@ranielferreiradossantos3103]

But wouldn't the gasket be water for lubricating oil?

[@ZKMasterTech]

@@ranielferreiradossantos3103 head gasket is most common problem with getting engine oil in your coolant tank. Oil cross contaminate from the oil port to the coolant port on the block. Pull the head bolts between 1 & 2 and 5&6 and see if they have oil and coolant on them.

[@ranielferreiradossantos3103]

@@ZKMasterTech So is it a factory defect? Just changing the head gasket will do the trick.

[@davidrockwell4604]

Anybody else notice small scene of a thread chaser on water pump install? Maybe someone snugged that pump up too fast. Ripped threads. We all make mistakes.

[@ZKMasterTech]

There was too much dried thread sealer in the hole.

[@davidrockwell4604]

@@ZKMasterTech Got you. Nice videos you make. Just trying to wrap my head around how that wp caused issue.

[@mikezahnow1605]

I need a career change. As a skilled machinist this looks like something I would be interested in doing.

[@ShainAndrews]

Exact same situation. Just out of high school the IH dealership wanted me pretty bad. For some reason I thought it was below me. Here I am reconsidering my life choices. LOL.

[@mikezahnow1605]

@@ShainAndrews Been in my trade for over 30 years and it really sucks.

[@ShainAndrews]

@@mikezahnow1605 You have a solid 10 years on me. I find myself poking around in different industries more and more often. Trying to figure out if I would enjoy it. Doesn't help that I've turned anti corporate in a huge way. LOL.

[@mikezahnow1605]

@@ShainAndrews yes the corporate web. I work for one and its not the same as a ma and pa shop. Problem is that they pay so darn good its hard to leave, kinda like a spider web they got you in. But it still sucks lol.

[@sitdox]

In all fairness feel for you guys frustrating situation to say the least

[@cesargallo7424]

Why the water pump has to be connected with gears in the timing setup? water pump doesn't have to sync with anything, and it is the cheapest part, compared to a cam, crank shaft, etc. Please somebody who knows tell me why

[@ImNotADeeJay]

four valve per cylinder? what is the center spring for?

[@ZKMasterTech]

The injector.

[@ImNotADeeJay]

@@ZKMasterTech cool... I've never seen a injector like that on a car diesel engine, I guess industrial and automotive engines have differences, size aside...

[@ZKMasterTech]

@@ImNotADeeJay it’s a whole different animal !

[@ZKMasterTech]

@@ImNotADeeJay the rocker arm pushes down on the injector to create high pressure then there is an electronic valve that opens and fires the injector. The spring works just like a valve spring.

[@JimWhitaker]

I can just feel those $$ draining away!

[@bigcheese370]

That hydraulic reservoir is sure something to remove and reinstall

[@sitdox]

Loving watching your channel don’t know why I myself everyday on the spanner’s in my workshop on the cars Maybe my past as I used to be a plant drivers and technician these were times back in 🇱🇹 probably it’s sentimental to me Now in 🇬🇧 repairing cars Re timing gears it must’ve broke because you sir snapped your fingers too hard 😜 All the best

[@nachocm4870]

Rezare por JACOB. Saludos

[@thomashanke6750]

Find the engineers that designed it and make them pay for it. Never had a problem with a belt driven water pump destroying an engine unless you ran it without the belt. I’ll stick with my “old” technology.

[@ИлоннаПрокофьева]

Смотрю внимательно может пригодится на роботе.👍👍👍👍👍

[@travelinman70]

Wow, that's one expensive way to incorrectly install a water pump....

[@popswrench2]

like that milwaukee right angle ??? love mine except small batt , short life but works nice

[@popswrench2]

DANG!! new?? bent pump?? oy!!

[@mariotrinidad2147]

I’m really disappointing because I always think John Deere it was one of the best tractors ever but looking up all these travels they have I’m thinking if it’s because everything is made in China or if it’s because companies nowadays don’t look for a reputation name they only look for 💵

[@johnwaby4321]

That's not good .replacing a new water pump could do so much damage 😯😯. Hope you are not going to charge the customer 😟

[@BikerBloke600]

As a new suscriber I find it very concerning that a lot of these tractors you work on are not that old and have very serious issues which would really make me think twice about purchasing a John Deere. Piece of scrap IMO.

[@isidrovalles3458]

He is literally a tech, you want him to show you non broken tractors?

[@williamcorleu5839]

It don't matter what kind it is all the newest

[@LQ-C]

What concerns me is how difficult they are to work on, and how JD probably locks the owners out of their software or make it very expensive to get diagnostic equipment and software. These machines will likely have like a max of 20 to 25 year life before they are unserviceable due to lack of spares, software, diagnostic equipment, personnel who know how to work on them, or just too costly in labor time to be worth fixing.

[@troyfly6501]

@@mfreund15448yes all brands break, anything mechanical will break, but Deere’s quality has gone to shit in last decade

[@petereriksson1390]

This is a non goog looking 😊engine. You got yputself Sir! Enjoy! From Peter Eriksson Falun Maskin Service Sweden Europe 😊😅😊!

[@AndyB718]

Ouch 😯

[@thomasfenlon2363]

ouch

[@augustofrechfrech2465]

Boa tarde ..Brasil

[@traderjack6151]

Was going to tell you don’t care for that evil music and Mahindra is looking better all the time . We didn’t have that problem with water pumps when they were belt driven

[@ZKMasterTech]

This has only happened one time out of hundreds.

[@kevintevelde2819]

But hundreds of times over the years these stupid gear driven water pumps have leaked coolant into the oil on JD engines.

[@ZKMasterTech]

@@kevintevelde2819 that's true. That's why I was there to replace it. We replace them every 1500 hrs for preventative maintenance.

[@MCatSHF]

@@kevintevelde2819 Hello Kevin TeVelde: After my second engine on a JD 4WD tractor getting destroyed because of Mother Deere's faulty water pump bearing, I had enough & changed "colours" this past fall. I can't afford a third engine getting destroyed because of a faulty design.

[@autocat9371]

not to good at snapping your finger trick LOL

[@LethalMercury]

Umm, get a price estimate to the customer?! If that estimate isn’t zero dollars you should be ashamed of yourselves.

[@ZKMasterTech]

It was only to pay for upgrades / or other stuff that needed fixed not related to the engine damage.

[@hadzicana1]

do 8 minuta abortus video preko 8 minuta dobar video

[@claytonWells-tr8yl]

I can’t believe these have this many problems. KOMATSU YELLOW IRON HAVE 1/3 of the problems these do and there abused alot more

[@MrRoundb]

Clearly our musical tastes are very different