John Deere SCREWED Farmers, Now They're Paying The Price!

[@MotorFeed]

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[@michaelkusuplos1858]

It seems like FIAT is back in its past! Fix It Again Tony

[@chuckstewart7331]

B.S.

[@chefgiovanni]

Corporate greed runs deep.

[@bend3rbot]

I guess it's better than leaving owners on the side of the road!

[@starpergaming2688]

@@MotorFeed cool...

[@tomriley5790]

Ironic that a company founded by a repairman now forbids people to repair things.

[@spodula]

Mr Deere is probably spinning in his grave.

[@MutheiM_Marz]

Spinning faster than John deere broken pulley.

[@zachreyhelmberger894]

OH the IRONY!!

[@chrisbraswell8864]

That is as stupid as having a computer to control everything on a car, Cooling fan goes out, nothing wrong with fan. No signal coming out of Engine computer to turn on fan, instead of needing $5 relay you need a new $798 computer. How stupid of auto manufactures. You don't need a computer to work a light bulb.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

Sounds like the same as with every Auto made. Nobody wants to bust their Knuckles on the Packed in nonsense they have under the hood now. We don't have enough mechanics that really understand the reasoning behind our engine bays these days. Government wants you to buy a new one every time.

[@steveng-jz7mo]

John Deere's major investors are Vanguard, Cascade and BlackRock. And you wonder why John Deere is turning to crap. No strings being pulled there.

[@user-ww3vp7it9g]

Very valid point,these superannuation corporations are a toxic influence in agriculture.They have destroyed the family in Australia.

[@mmi16]

Nothing worse the being owned by 'activist investors' - they want all profits with no expenses.

[@dwork9451]

Your tax money hard at work.

[@TheDesertRat31]

​@dwork9451 oh no it isn't. It's industry lobbyist money hard at work.

[@TheDesertRat31]

​@@mmi16more like greedy venture capitalists

[@wayneott5990]

I farm and since John Deere has made it impossible to work on their equipment I refuse to buy any of their products.

[@MotorFeed]

Plenty of other great brands out there.

[@wayneott5990]

@@MotorFeed Yes!

[@fermewilmotsagriculturebio3434]

@@MotorFeed do you know of any that will gladly hand you over the software and source codes to modify? Everybody picks on JDand they deserve it, but others arent better. Go ask your car dealer for the same thing, you'll get the same answer as with JD

[@irishlad4933]

YES!!! What this man said right here! Stop buying products from businesses that hate you... Buy their old products from when you could repair them yourself and keep them running for decades. I only drive old vehicles and half the parts I use to repair them, I have made myself... If there are entrepreneurs out there, start a new business and start building good equipment again...

[@user-me8hc3bs7i]

Farmers would buy a JD scan tool if they sold one, just like I know business owners with Snap On scanners. Source code isn’t what we’re asking for. We’re asking for a tractor that doesn’t go into hard limp mode with zero way to diagnose ourselves. We’re asking for tractors that don’t require dealer proprietary software to reflash after part changes needlessly. John Deere is locked down harder than new BMW’s when it comes to repair.

[@jessiej3991]

The best answer to all farmers problems is " STOP BUYING anything labeled John Deere "

[@ARockRaider]

That's a fine first step, but everyone else in almost every industry are doing the same thing so it's an on going problem.

[@masondegaulle5731]

@@ARockRaider There are plenty of options that don't have JD's issues and BS

[@ralfbaechle]

Many farmers are already in a deep existing business relation with John Deere, have chosen the products they own for a reason. Changing brands would exceed their financial means and what are they going to do with their existing machinery while switching? Farmers would prefer to rather fix the issues they're having with John Deere.

[@ARockRaider]

@@ralfbaechle you say that like the farmers have to scrap or sell anything they own that John dear makes. That's not the case, chances are the farmers will just buy a different brand when the cost to repair exceeds the cost of replacement. A brand that doesn't constantly Retroactively Amend Purchase Experiences their customers if any still exist.

[@oneandy2]

@@ARockRaider If it were me, I would give up on the company and "jailbreak" the equipment. No warranty? No problem.

[@jandd661]

I would like to see a label that says, "No John Deere equipment was used in the making of this product."

[@my3dviews]

Problem is, that would penalize farmers (which is a lot) that already own J.D. equipment bought over the decades.

[@nodwick4231]

@@my3dviews Consumers should be allowed to penalize any producer for any reason they want.

[@my3dviews]

@@nodwick4231 They can, but farmers aren't the problem here. They are the victims of John Deere's bad practices.

[@rollinOnCode]

agreed my3

[@jelehan88]

That's actually a great idea

[@essexfarmer9610]

As a large arable UK farmer who first had many JD tractors back in the early 1970s, we used to be happy until about 10 years ago, then we found that the usual JD product reliability and repair costs with 7,000 series tractors was unusually poor. The same happened then started with the 6,000 series tractors. We came to realise JD was no longer as reliable to justify a premium price tag. They either took less care in design or designed down to a build price, or both! To add insult to injury, we found that when we came to trade in for new that the poor reliability had hit second hand demand and values. JD would not give a back up guarantee for their biggest 9620T if it broke down. We said back your product or we walk, but JD didn't care or budge. We looked at Fendt and found them similar price but that a 240hp Fendt used £10,000 less fuel than a JD over 5 years, and that was when diesel was 60% of todays prices, held its resale value and was more reliable. We changed the whole JD fleet to Fendt and have never looked back! This is how easy it is for a few greedy top executives to ruin a top products reputation in a few short years of taking their customers for granted.

[@jornott8399]

But Fendt was a German company, so a no-go for the patriotic American... But 1997, they were sold to the American AGCO. So I guess, they're now more American than a Mexico-based John Deere...

[@eekamoose]

You nailed it. Greedy top executives get their huge bonuses and then move on to another company before the damage they have done causes the first company to implode when its customers get tired of being shafted. A classic American story.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

I John deere rose from the grave, he would be slapping some people. "YOU DID WHAT!" SLAP

[@teresabenson3385]

Same with lawn tractors and riding lawnmowers here in the U.S. All of a sudden, everything is plastic. As our neighbors say, "Green paint must be really expensive."

[@billb7636]

Similar to what happened to destroy the quality and reputation of Boeing - these companies have been taken over by the idea that only short-term profit matters, long term is not "on their radar".

[@valleyviewacres9120]

I run a cattle ranch. Honestly I was done with JD 20 years ago when I started to realize that if they couldn't sell you the top of the line computer on four wheels they didn't want your business.all of this "right to repair" stuff only reassures me that I was right.

[@LegendStormcrow]

Can't buy a printer without crappy user rights. Can't drive a car without them selling your GPS data. I'm tired of this!

[@martimasters7704]

@@LegendStormcrow You know who else is tired of this? IT professionals. It's not how we believe customers should be treated. I'm one of the original AGILE software engineers, which is the #1 philosophy about how software and hardware should be treated. The emphasis is on the end-user, which is the folks who buy and use the product. It's clear that John Deere's C-Suite slept through business school or they wouldn't be pissing off their most valuable customers!

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@martimasters7704 The modern PC design language makes me irate! I could do anything with XP. Now I can't even run a search of my own files easily.

[@johnmcbride364]

Indeed. This is nothing new. This was easy to see coming YEARS ago.

[@PsyckoSama]

@@LegendStormcrow There's a reason my nerdy tech loving ass has a 25 year old Chevy Astro.

[@user_not_addicted]

Hiring a big rig to haul equipment for a software update is just Disgusting

[@e30techgaming22]

Thats if it needed to be brought in. 9/10 times they have mobile service techs who can do it on site. Unless there is a can bus failure it would not need to be brought into the stealership.

[@sugoruyo]

@@e30techgaming22so they will literally send the highwaymen to you to collect the racket money.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

You may need a computer to work a modern fuel injected engine, but you don't need it to work the electric windows or head light. Lets go back to simple.

[@davidcox3076]

Farmers vs. John Deere. I'll be supporting the farmers. No farmers, no food.

[@Bkamron]

But, but... we must eat da bugs! Und vee vill own nuthink und be happy - Ja?

[@coljaschoppe8670]

@@Bkamron Onkel Klaus lässt grüßen!😉

[@coljaschoppe8670]

Es gibt bei uns in Deutschland einen alten Spruch : " Stirbt der Bauer , stirbt das Dorf ! " Heute noch genauso wahr wie damals wenn du mich fragst.

[@betag24cn]

without farmers, no more john deere

[@toastyghostyofdeath3909]

Thats the idea. They want to put farmers out of business so people are reliant on government for food

[@MassStash]

Thanks to the farmers, and thanks to Louis Rossman for making right to repair electronics publicized!

[@d3thkn1ghtmcgee74]

I came here to mention about Right of repair too when i saw this pop up too lol

[@leenonolee4629]

Amen. Louis is a potty mouth, but right to repair is a righteous cause.

[@my3dviews]

@@leenonolee4629 Ya, he needs to tone it down a bit. Often comes off as a jerk, rather than a good person on our side.

[@user-kv5ry7br4m]

@@my3dviews "Rossman" is another controled opposition Yidd movement. Strip them all of citizenship and prohibit their terroristic activities, deport them or imprison them.

[@jameslmorehead]

@@leenonolee4629 Part of that comes from his autism.

[@eekamoose]

Here’s how it works. Greedy top executives shaft their customers and their employees to achieve short-term gains in profit. They then get massive bonuses. By the time the company implodes, said greedy top executives have moved on to another company to repeat the operation. I’ve seen it done and been one of the employees who lost their jobs in the process. It’s heart-breaking and sickening. Destroying a company’s reputation and a competent workforce like this to make a quick buck is asset-stripping, which in some contexts is a crime.

[@jesus2621]

This is serious

[@slowfinger2]

More likely it's the top investors on the board demanding dividend payouts. They vote for the CEO and others. One of them could be the CEO. They control the executives. That's what's happened to the railroads, and many other top corporations. Know what, and who you are fighting. It could be your friends, family, and neighbors stock portfolios. Of course, they may not understand the farmer's problem, but that's why they don't care about anything but profit?

[@wiretamer5710]

Executives can only do what the shareholders and the customers PERMIT them to do. The problem is not 'greed'. The problem is selfishness.

[@nelly365]

Sounds like politicians

[@phils4634]

@@wiretamer5710 Not the customers. The Board Members, along with significant corporate lobbying interests. This is the reason behind the "export" of manufacture (and thus capability) to wherever labour is the cheapest. Do the savings get passed on to the customer, or are they used to pad shareholder dividends and executive bonuses? I'll let you answer that one.

[@johnwest7993]

I have a farmer friend who bought an old Deere from the '50's or so to fix up to pull a hay-wagon for hayrides and in the town parades. He already had a big newer Deere with computerized everything and air-conditioning. But he pulled his old Deere out of the barn to use as a back-up when he had troubles with the new one. Three years later he just uses the old one. During planting and harvest seasons he runs the old Deere 3 shifts, taking turns on the tractor with 2 of his sons, and the big new beast he's still paying on just sits there in the shed gathering dust. He's not a happy farmer. Guess what he tells other farmers who want advice on a new tractor.

[@PS-Straya_M8]

There's a reason why 40 year old farm equipment is in such demand right now!

[@teresabenson3385]

It's going to be that way with cars soon.

[@je862]

@@teresabenson3385 Heck, it already IS that way with cars.

[@teresabenson3385]

@@je862 Yeah, my car is over 10 years old, and I hope it lasts another 30 or so!

[@je862]

@@teresabenson3385 Well, with proper maintenance, it could very well last that long.

[@MX-CO]

Yup ​@@teresabenson3385

[@scottmccloud9029]

My dad got screwed by john deere. It was a riding lawn mower but my dad was tired of wasting his hard earned money on Walmart brands every two years. So he wanted a good name brand, he could trust. He knew deere was good because he grew up seeing it. Dad was getting on in years and didn't want to have to deal with repairs. One of john deeres snake oil salesmen talked dad into their el cheapo mower. He had less than 24 hours on the machine when it kept slipping out of gear. I checked it out and found out the the rear end gears were plastic. Yes plastic. The rear end gears. I couldn't believe it. I bought a replacement rearend from deere and should of checked with Fisher Price instead. The deere replacement was junk too. Dad was so infuriated he quit mowing the grass. He hired the neighbor kid to mow his grass. When I bought the replacement part from deere, the salesman told me before I left to be sure to come back. I told him, my dad wouldn't have another piece of sh&t john deere ever again. A guy in the back looked at me like he wanted to fight. Musta been the manager. Dad couldn't believe he wasted his hard earned money on something he "knew" was good. I know no one in my family will ever buy from deere. I wish the farmers godspeed.

[@BluesyBor]

Them plastic gears remind me of plastic pistons in a pressure washer of a well known yellow-coloured brand. It was used maybe twice a month and the damn thing started leaking after only a year, so there were maybe 20hrs clocked on the machine. :D Yes, it was a cheap model, the high ends had pistons made of aluminum but were three times as expensive.

[@MotionMcAnixx]

Plastic gears? That is insane.

[@analyticalhabitrails9857]

Trust me man, whrn I say I never, ever bought jack from john deere, and I never will. Let them close their doors, yet let another true American man take his place.

[@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz]

I had the same thing happen with Volvo. Had grown up seeing it as a reliable brand, but Ford had bought it and ran it into the ground. Honda lawn mowers are really good, btw

[@scottmccloud9029]

@@MotionMcAnixx Yes, I couldn't believe it either.

[@LegendStormcrow]

The Right to Repair movement isn't just against John Deere. It's also against Apple

[@stoptuna7671]

Also against Rotax, Skidoo, and many others.

[@LegendStormcrow]

@@stoptuna7671 It's infiltrating every form of consumer and commercial good. How long before we need to hire a technician to air our tires?

[@PatriotForThePlanet]

Cisco too.

[@daledavies2334]

I believe Deere competitors are about the same. If Deere wins, the rest will take the same road.

[@joesmith3501]

Apple and Microsoft had lawyers in the courtrooms monitoring JD’s fight through all of the trials. Big tech has a huge stake in how it all turns out

[@TrevorJohnson-p3u]

Hello all. Regarding John Deere and its move to Mexico. I have some personal history with John Deere. I live in Canada where John Deere used to have a factory in Welland Ontario. That factory opened in 1911. Every single year of its operation saw the highest tonnage output per man hour worked and the highest profit margins of any John Deere facility in the world. In the 80’s they built the AMT there. Then they shifted to the gator. Every gator made was made in Welland. Every contract, John Deere threatened to pull the gator line and move it to South Carolina if we didn’t take a pay cut. Late 90’s or early 2000’s after I quote for the writing on the wall, they did pull the gator line and attempt to move it. They ended up losing almost 2 years of production and eventually moved the line back to welland. Im no mathematician but I figure they could have paid $100 per hour for labour and still saved money. Not sure if anyone puts 2 and 2 together but John Deere has been outsourcing parts for decades so the made in America is actually nothing more than a mantra. They are the pioneers of offshore outsourcing. Welland works was closed and abandoned and left for the tax base of welland to pay for demolition and clean up. That plant was all based on piece work pay for the shop floor. One day I went for a walk and got all the times for every part on a 540 loader which was the he machine I welded. Every bushing, stamped part, weld, assembly, paint, and even the stickers cost John Deere $165 in direct labour. Nobody on this earth can convince me that John Deere can ship a loader so far as across the street for $165. The cost for employees to a company that has had pensions for 3 generations is not the labour cost, I would argue it is more likely the pension administration fees and health insurance fees. That is not to say employees should not have pensions and health insurance. Im saying pension fund managers, insurance companies and company uppers make too much. John Deere is certainly not alone in that. It is for the most part not the fault of the fella begging on the corner that he is begging on the corner. When there are no jobs there are no options. Here in peterborough ontario, Quaker Oats actually pays less per hour than they did 25 or 30 years ago. No adjustment for inflation. Just the actual number per hour is a smaller number than it was. GM used to build their own bumpers in Oshawa. I assume about $40 or $50 would have had one ready to install all in the same building. They started outsourcing so that bumper was loaded onto no less than 4 different trucks and run through 3 separate facilities all the while collecting road salt that hinders the chrome electroplating process. They demolished their warehouse so they don’t pay tax on it and sold heavy trucks to sit on the highway and bung up traffic for the rest of society while they make a profit on heavy truck sales and show a loss on light truck manufacturing and went to our government for a welfare check of close to a billion dollars of tax base support while kids in school have no books or sports gear. I know I am speaking of the Canadian experience but it is the same experience as America. Gotta wonder if the community would be better off keeping folks employed on farms. What is it we are chasing anyway? What is it we really want out of life? This particular post is regarding John Deere but something as simple as a pair of jeans should also be considered. Why don’t we make them in our own communities just like we are looking to fix our tractors in our own community? A town of 50000 people would theoretically need about 50000 pair of jeans a year. That sounds like a lot of folks kept off the street corners.

[@bobfg3130]

Companies had their own pension funds. Basically they were another part of the financial department of the company. Health insurance in Canada isn't much of an issue. That wasn't too expensive because it was a big deal....similar buying in bulk. As for the Jeans thing, a 50.000 people city needs 50.000 once every several years or at least they should. Not that simple.

[@ultmateragnarok8376]

It's worse in the US, actually. The number of US cities you can rent housing in, much less buy, on minimum wage - the thing that is supposed to exist to ensure you can't be paid less than you need to live - is 0. What a terrible excuse for a country. It has maybe 50 to 80 more years left before complete collapse.

[@maskharat]

Made in America* *Continent

[@CainXVII]

Clothes would have to be more expensive to support the wages we have here, and we would need to consume less clothes to not put everyone in clothes factories. I would love to go back to high-quality clothes that you keep and repair for a long time though. Cars/tractors are one of the few things that probably still work to keep the factories close because people still pay 20-30.000 for them and expect a quality product that will last 15 years. Thing about clothes factories, especially making fabrics, is also that they pollute the surroundings a bunch. Nobody wants that around. Let China have 'em. If everyone started going to their local tailor/seamstress and getting good quality clothes that lasted years that would be amazing, but I doubt it.

[@glennwall552]

This is what happens when Hedge funds run companies

[@CarlosSantos-xb8ew]

The same in Europe, the objective high profit in less time and fu... workers and costumers...

[@gregdawson1909]

John Deere is not equipment ownership, its a subscription.

[@johnenzor]

Your right you only have the use of the equipment through all the fine print in the paperwork you don't own squat

[@AnanasWolf]

Which on it's own should not be a problem. But JD should have a guaranteed up time. I know more companies that work like that and they actually need to pay compensation if they can't meet the uptime goals.

[@travistucker7317]

You'll own nothing and you'll be happy

[@travistucker7317]

@@logicthought24 I'm ready. I'm gonna rent a few rolex.

[@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx]

​@@travistucker7317It's a plan to continually fleece and control people

[@MrKornnugget]

It seems like every company hates their customers. Look at Disney and Harley Davidson.

[@STScott-qo4pw]

Harley? How do you eff up a motorcycle?

[@industrialathlete6096]

It's Not the companies.It's the DEI,ESG, 'edumacated' snowflakes that are now in charge and more interested in how Black Rock and the monied elite "think"?.

[@icarusfarmsWV]

Deere doesn’t hate their customers they just want to squeeze every penny they can out of them in the short term to drive quarterly profits, even if it drives them to bankruptcy. Gone are the days of building a robust community that will continue to generate long term profits, the current management will be long retired after cashing in their bonuses and stock options and hence could care less. You can thank Jack Welch and his followers…

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@STScott-qo4pw By the moneyed investors that "own" that company appointing a woke CEO and forcing the workers and dealers to accept the woke BS that is now being rebelled against by their customers??? That's how.. oh and moving production of parts and some whole motorcycle lines to Thailand.... See a pattern here?

[@pprz82]

Amen​@@icarusfarmsWV

[@Yogi_Bear69]

You guys should get in touch with Louis Rossmann. He's been fighting John Deere for many many years and facing every roadblock you can imagine and a lot neither of us can imagine.

[@everettputerbaugh3996]

Do you have the reputed "special tool required to open the hood" of your Rolls Royce that is supposedly given as a prize for completing their repair school? This idea has been around as long as exclusivity has.

[@RCmadness888]

@@everettputerbaugh3996 You know, you can do without a rolls any day......do that with food, i dare ya.

[@JB-yb4wn]

Send John Deere a Dear John letter.

[@johndoles3713]

😂

[@JB-yb4wn]

@RichardNeal-c3o Cost them Deerely.

[@ehsnils]

Dear John, I happen to have a lot of C4 that's about to expire.

[@edwardbuzzell6650]

Then, just like all these other corporations, leave America and screw the average employee!! there company president is overpaid like most of them! The greed is choking the average farmer.

[@Cavethug]

Why? You think they need tinder to start a fire?

[@petersabolewsky4983]

This is why CASE Tractors are referred to as “Deere Hunters”😂

[@MotorFeed]

😂😂😂 just in Case you get hungry. Deere burgers.

[@wreckum56]

I don’t know,I have a friend whose fairly new case IH is on a trailer more than in the field.

[@lostonlongisland6845]

@@wreckum56 we replaced our green garbage 10 years ago with case and havnt had an issue yet besides normal wear items

[@freeatlast7384]

I think John Deere should fire their CEO. Once you lose a customer you'll never get them back

[@eekamoose]

If they do fire him, which is extremely unlikely, you can bet that he will get a multi-million dollar golden handshake on his way out of the door. All these top execs look after each other.

[@biopsiesbeanieboos55]

The CEO is doing exactly what is being asked of him by the private equity shareholders. Nothing to see here, and no chance of him getting fired.

[@jonny777bike]

If Blackrock has a lot of shares of their company then its more problems beyond their CEO.

[@jayejaycurry5485]

You want John Deere to fire their CEO? Who is John Deere? The man is long dead. JD is now a corporation. JD is all the people who own company's stock. Farmers should buy their stock. That way they have a real say in what the company dies (including firing the CEO) and getting some of their money back in dividends.

[@adlockhungry304]

CEO doesn’t matter. Private equity shareholders are. Shuffling the CEO deck won’t make a lick of difference.

[@AC3handle]

Louis Rossmann has been working to bring this issue to light for literal years. And every time they make a stride forward, Deere pushed them 2, sometimes 3 steps back. Here's the IMPORTANT thing people need to realize: If Deere keeps getting away with this, they won't be able to go to other equipment makers, because those makers will do the SAME F'ing THING as Deere is.

[@allhopeabandon7831]

Exactly. Lookout what happened to American business as a whole after Coof 19...no place open after 11 pm, no place open bf 5 am...business learned that people will pay for what they want regardless of price. We played ourselves. Trump 2024 for a chance at gaining some ground back tho!!!

[@schwuzi]

Other brands are already doing it across industries. It's only going to get worse. I'm holding out to see if the EU will impose some regulations for manufacturers. These can be hit and miss, but when they hit they hit hard.

[@AC3handle]

@@schwuzi Saw what happened with Google and Apple in the UK, I can only hope court systems in the US pay attention.

[@niteriderevo9179]

@@allhopeabandon7831 sorry but the orange blivet and his backers want to take the US back to the 1600~1700s and make it a theocratic dictatorship. so sorry, but no, we do not want that.. even older, longtime republicans are backing Harris/Walz due to how the orange blivet and his backers act.. check out what the entirety of what project 2025 wants to do vs our history books of about the 1600s~1700s, including the formation of the United States entirely.

[@MustachioFurioso9134]

LMFAO... Trump doesn't give a shit about this stuff... ​@@allhopeabandon7831

[@mikeshortridge8178]

Quit buying john deer, I won't even buy their lawn equipment.

[@analyticalhabitrails9857]

That's exactly what I'm doing. Thank you man. But yet let another true patriot take his place.

[@godmodeforever]

I wont even buy one of their hats.

[@hephzbah1130]

@@godmodeforever: WOW that’s deep. But really that’s what’s needed! When these companies turn on its very customers we should speak with OUR MONEY and stop buying their products. U.S. is the world’s largest consumer of EVERYTHING. Deere will find out when its stock is downgraded to penny.

[@tb6303]

When I was a teenager and a young adult, I wanted some of their products so badly, then when I found out 10 or so years ago what they were doing, I squelched that desire double-quick.

[@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline]

Not even a farmer, won't buy John Deer anything (Hats ,clothing, ect).

[@PatriotForThePlanet]

As someone who has been working on right to repair in Minnesota for several years, this isn’t new information. John Deere has been the major roadblock every year. We finally got digital right to repair passed and it went into affect in July, but with a notable exemption of agricultural equipment. Republicans refused to support it with that in there. Farm Bureau was also against it. They use fear mongering and lies about farmers overriding emissions systems as justification for why it shouldn’t be allowed. Or that farmers might get hurt if they are allowed to repair certain stuff. It’s wildly offensive to farmers. And laughable that they care about the emissions. The JD MOU is a joke.

[@LuvBorderCollies]

With the governor they elected in Minn why am I not surprised at the shxt show.

[@Cavethug]

Yeah, I'm sure it was Republicans.... I bet Trump was behind the whole thing right?

[@mythicmaestro]

​@@LuvBorderCollies this comment is wild. Minnesota is one of only six states that have a right to repair law. Walz supports it OP says Republicans held it up and you're still gonna spew your nonsense.

[@hanselito2416]

JD must be in politics. "American made" hits different these days.

[@jeffsenecal4168]

They use $ to lobby the politicians. Sickening.

[@nightcrawleroriginal]

What a total violation of farmers rights, very hostile behavior towards there customers, unbelievable.

[@DaxxTerryGreen]

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[@kirkpalmer1709]

It's very believable when you understand the globalists plan to put small farmers out of business.

[@jim4448]

To meet the USA for the EPA.. These components have got to go on.. diesels Engine everywhere united states.. Many governments don't give. A rats ass.. The whole african continent.. And asian continent.. And india continen.. The end User is going to pay the the price.. All can say . Is prepared for. Massive inflation on everything.. Thanks to the uUSA Government.

[@BuilderofRat]

@@DaxxTerryGreen Oh go back to grading tests!!! NOBODY CARES!!!! We ALL knew what they meant, EVEN YOU!!!!!! Your OCD is showing.

[@kehenabeach4418]

@@DaxxTerryGreenSo the message isn’t as important as good grammar? Wow!

[@-FRYXELL-]

God bless Louis Rossmann. He's been fighting for farmers like no other. His efforts are absolutely next level.

[@winfordnettles3292]

My dad was a parts department manager for several Deere dealerships for about 50 years. He helped hundreds of thousands of farmers get their equipment repaired so that they could get their crops in on time and succeed in their business. He would not like the divergence of Deere away from supporting and helping their customers to blatant corporate greed, if her were alive today. Deere should wake up, else they will continue to lose market share as the public moves away from their products.

[@je862]

What years did your dad work there? Sounds like it was during the 'good years' of long ago. Shame they've become what they are now.

[@MargaretFinnell]

My parent's tractor spent the first two years being repaired. Now it works. Other friends have bought Kubotas and are very happy with them.

[@winfordnettles3292]

@@je862 1945 through 1986

[@winfordnettles3292]

Before that he was repairing and flying airplanes during WW2

[@winfordnettles3292]

@@je862 I still run and maintain Deeres, both old and newer models on my farms today.

[@justincrafton6105]

STOP BUYING, JOHN DEERE ! 😤 Why buy equipment from a company that has for years screwed over the customers.

[@Joe6packAmerican]

John Deere deserves no brand loyalty anymore. If you're stuck on green go Fendt.

[@NightPaddle]

Or Claas. Or just buy a bucket of green paint.

[@my3dviews]

I farmed for 24 years, without ever owning a J.D. tractor. All were red. 😄

[@wanemergency3591]

But fendt is completely overrated

[@NightPaddle]

@@wanemergency3591 "Where was Fendt, when the Westfold fell?"

[@wanemergency3591]

@NightPaddle I'd still have a deere any day over a fendt. They are much more reliable than a fendt. We put 15k hrs on deere tractors before changing. We tried 3 fendts and we had to sell them at 7k hrs dew to engine and transmission issues

[@koboldprime2257]

Owning your own property?! Now that's some top tier heresy, who do you think you are? A citizen?! Absurd.

[@jayw900]

Technically you really don't own anything. Even your land isn't really your land since eminent domain exists.

[@alexnorth2452]

I have bought 1 piece of john deere equipment in my life, just a little riding mower, brand new from lowes and it came with a bad battery, paid for the extra warranty, yet they still wanted to waste my time, called lowes and they told me they would replace the battery, only for me to go up there and be told they cant replace the battery themselves because its a battery with the john deere sticker on it, what ended up happening is i got stuck arguing with customer service until the store owner came over because 5 of his employees were arguing with each other over it, took him 10 seconds to tell them to stop wasting time and give me a battery The moral of this story, is that i lost all respect for john deere, and this was before i learned of the right to repair issues, i will never buy the green again

[@bobmiller9018]

Those are genaric mowers made by mtd not deere

[@alexnorth2452]

@@bobmiller9018 well it has their logo, and the warranty was supposed to be honored by them, so regardless I still hold them 100% responsible

[@3644Darrell]

Those lowes and Home Depot mowers aren't real John Deere. You have to go to a dealer to get a good one

[@ralphmowery2898]

@@3644Darrell Deere dealers sell the same junk mowers that Lowes and other stores sell if the mower has the same number on it. However if you buy from a Deere store they look after you but Lowes will make you jump through hoops. About 20 years ago I bought a JD mower from the Deere dealer. It had a problem where it would go about 100 feet and stop. Crank up and go another 1000 feet. They came and got the mower and replaced he seat and brought it back under warranty and no charge. The transmission went out at 300 hours on it because it was a junk low end mower that they should not have made. They buy the transmission from a company named something like tuff tourq. That company makes several lines of quality from junk to very good. About 3 years ago I bought another Deere mower and it had a problem where it may not start but moving the wires and it would run. It may mow 2 or 3 times with no problem and then act up again; This year it finally would not start. They came and picked it up, fixed the problem and brought it back with no charge.

[@scottnugent4791]

​@bobmiller9018 actually made by JD in a non union facility. They started making them to enter the big box store market.

[@willmears1111]

Goodbye John Deere. We will happily buy Massey Ferguson, Case or New Holland instead.

[@xxwookey]

This has to be the right approach, assuming those manufacturers are actually better on repair access. The right to repair is fundamental. It would be best if states/federal govt gave everyone repair rights, rather than hoping companies won't take advantage of the opportunities that proprietary software provides to screw over your customers.

[@myckee]

@@xxwookey And this is why the government is pushing for all this computerized junk, in our cars, trucks, farm equipment. They want the control. They can't control us when we use old dependable non computerized equipment. They can't see what we spend on when we use Cash!!! That's why they are pushing to do away with it. Let us not ever let that happen.

[@r-urbex1611]

Modern Masseys are nothing but problems, usually software related.......

[@beachamgroup2482]

None of those are any better or cheaper to run.

[@allangibson8494]

Or go Japanese…

[@generalrodcocker1018]

this practice is completely illegal in europe. it‘s even forbidden to make changing things like a light bulb complicated

[@mweskamppp]

Not really. It might kill the reputation of a brand. It really hurt VW that the workshop had to dismantle the complete front of the car just to change a light bulb. Its different now.

[@generalrodcocker1018]

@@mweskamppp and because of this, they changed the law. vw had to make a small door in the wheel housing because of this. i think it was the golf platform

[@mweskamppp]

@@generalrodcocker1018 Korrekt.

[@richarddietzen3137]

You in the EU need to ask your governments to enforce rules and tariffs to keep your manufacturing base and middle class, or you’ll be driving your Chinese car to shop for Chinese goods at the corporate middle man’s big box stores or ordering them from Amazon. It might cost more to consumers but you’ll still have better cities and societies.

[@tonyb6821]

If that's true, John Deere DOES export to Europe. Do they still have their systems locked-out or are they open for third party repairs? If they're 'open' there, then there is ZERO viable reason to keep it 'locked-out' here...except for CEO 50 million/yr salary, golden parachutes and GREED...

[@loadofcheese]

It's baffling to me how some business executives seem to forget they have competitors. Even if your product is twice as good, that doesn't mean shit if it only works half the time.

[@randycarter2001]

A business opportunity for Deere's competitors. Do what Deere isn't doing. Make their machines repairable and modify-able. The farmers can vote with their wallet as to who has the better company. Farming has a long history of individuals modifying their equipment to improve how it did a job or add a new job to the jobs it already does.

[@badgercdlyons]

That all works until the groups doing this to Deere show up on the competitors' doorsteps with an insanely-sized sack of cash and buy them up, too. In the end, Deere is the HOW in this mess, not the ultimate WHO.

[@jamesflach7995]

I was a John Deere technician for many years before they became publicly owned…..and I was a JD technician after they became publicly owned, the company had changed it was more about making money than providing good products for farmers or for or other business people like construction … it became obvious that it was about making money for all of its investors, instead of good service for farmers . John Deere Started cutting corners in every way possible to make more money for the investors .

[@PatriotForThePlanet]

Bingo.

[@markfryer9880]

They do things in the name of making money for shareholders, but in reality it is all about maximising the renumeration of senior executives. They don't see farmers as loyal customers, only as captive sales and spares sales and service call income. Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

[@johndavis9454]

When they became publicly owned the bean counters took over.

[@jonathanfrank4473]

"Investors" are blood suckers!

[@BHShaman]

Wall Street doesn't care about companies. They make money on the way up and they short stock on the way down until the company is dead (Sears the most obvious example).

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

As a guy from EU, but a huge fan of all things related to USA, I spend much time on the internet, and it looks like to me that everything in USA becomes trashy, lately : tools, cars, bikes, farming equipment... I hope I'm wrong, but there's a trend in all those YT videos that I don't like to see. Please, Americans : make USA great again. And for good.

[@SanchoPanza-wg5xf]

M.A.G.A. We'll vote out the left wing nuts who think a "post-national" state is preferable to a sovereign state.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

Not everything. Just big corporations. Sadly, that's the only part you will see in the EU.

[@mindaugasseka]

US and EU are like the sides of the same coin. We in EU will get the same treatment the US folks get it is only matter of time. I have seen articles about Mercedes and Audi asking buyers to pay subscription for things that are already installed in their cars. There was an article about Mercedes, BMW and Polestar (Volvo) trying to implement a subscription service that would remove electric engine power output restrictions if subscribed. This shitshow needs to receive more attention or else "we will own nothing and be happy about it".

[@LGM090221]

You are correct. There's no longer any difference btwn USA and China made products. Same garbage. I buy Japanese when I want quality.

[@tonyb6821]

@@TheRealScooterGuy more than that has been deliberately taken to crap. AND made it's way to Europe...

[@jeromethiel4323]

"Nothing breaks down like a Deer" "Nobody rips you off, like a Deer" "We hate our customers, like a Deer" Guarantee the people that thought this up were MBA's. I grew up on a farm, and we had all Deer equipment. And it was all rock solid, and easy to work on. Just good, solid, well built equipment. But that was back in the 70's, before the rot set in.

[@paulveenings6861]

Exactly right

[@chrossphyre]

I've been in Ag Crop Input sales for 30 years. I can tell you that farmers have long memories and Deere should NEVER have allowed themselves, for any reason, to get into a combative relationship with their primary customer segment. What you win people with is what you win them to, so if you think that an American (or Canadian in my case) farmer is going to buy a Mexican made combine or sprayer without the means to fix it when something goes wrong, well, you have just signed your company's death warrant. Farmers simply do not have time to wait on your schedule. Even if Deere turns around today and opens the door to Right To Repair and cancels the layoff and the Mexican project, damage has been done and it will take years to regain the trust of the producer.

[@Mikexxx531]

Things like this don't happen by chance! The major shareholders(Vanguard, Blackrock) are demanding a poor product that can be stopped cold by JD maintenance, or lack of it!

[@38Maelstorm]

@@Mikexxx531 Do you have any proof of this? Perhaps a video should be made on this topic.

[@Mikexxx531]

@@38Maelstorm I don''t have time to look into this in detail, but others have. The big stockholders are the source of a great deal of money also. They're the ones that caused Target, Bud Light, and many others to go woke and nearly broke. I don't quite know what their agenda is, but many have looked into it and made videos or otherwise shared their views on the net. It's not that difficult to find if you look. The agenda seems to be to weaken the USA relative to other governments and destabiize things to the degree that a supergovernmental structure can be introduced and bought into. It sounds like conspiracy theory, but such things do happen. Think about the EU, ASEAN, WTO, WEF, UN, and other similar organizations. Just look with a clear mind and no preconceptions.

[@bobfg3130]

If they're moving to Mexico 🇲🇽 they should cut prices.

[@chrossphyre]

@@bobfg3130 lol that's a good one dude!

[@AM-pl2pt]

Have seen the Right To Repair come up on numerous forums. I SUPPORT RIGHT TO REPAIR !!

[@waichungsham1578]

If you start buying cheaper Chinese alternatives that won't brick your machine they might pay attention 😂

[@tsnamm]

​@@waichungsham1578 They put tariffs on them blocking the importation of Chinese equipment.

[@jimmahr.4665]

Whoever tells you voting doesn't work, see bud light, target, tractor supply, now harley davidson. You don't need to wait for elections either.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Yup, you can vote every time you spend some dollars.

[@MartinJones1]

Voting, the capitalism way. But that gets hard when government regulates competitors out of the market. Semi trucks in the US are getting worse and worse. And the software needed to fix them isn't cheap.

[@MHolt-t6y]

We need to double down remember and what our politicians, government employed and the military are doing to us..

[@martimasters7704]

@@Cl0ckcl0ck It's really effective too. Harvard University published a study that showed 80% of disgruntled customers don't complain, they will simply shop somewhere else. Of the 20% of disgruntled customers who do complain, only half will continue to shop at that store. It will take 10 years of targeted advertising at a cost of 1000 dollars per disgruntled customer to bring back 50% of them.. Good luck with that, John Deere!

[@Darkness8536]

You don't have to vote for things like this. Just don't buy. When they don't make money they will get it. Plus, if there is some warrenty feature when buying this equipment, if should be carefully read.

[@snowstalker36]

As a gamer I'm sitting over on the sidelines laughing. This was a fight we tried fighting in the aughts, and no one paid attention and mostly dismissed our concerns because "entitled gamers". Almost 2 decades later people are flipping out about subscriptions for their machine features and inability to repair their stuff on their own. Yeah, we called it. Unfortunately no one backed us and now there is a ton of legal precedent saying this is how businesses get to run now. So good luck! In the meantime... reap what you sow.

[@amalfi460]

Stop buying John deere

[@christophercharles3169]

I believe that movement has already begun.

[@craigsmith8217]

Never cared for the green paint.

[@Patrick_Cooper]

But the used market of JD may get a big boost. We need to buy up every old JD appliance that is sitting unused and start reviving them. But then JD would stop all sales of JD parts. Aftermarket will out best friend.

[@ianbelletti6241]

Easy if you're in the market for a new piece of equipment. It's not so easy when you just bought the expensive machinery. We need farmers suing John Deer over illegal monopolistic practices and violations of the Magnuson Moss Warrantee Act.

[@christophercharles3169]

@@ianbelletti6241 Makes sense. Actions will be different for existing owners and prospective owners. One thing is for sure, if you still go ahead and purchase one now, knowing full well the issues, you had better not complain afterwards.

[@MrSkell2U]

I was working on a farm back when they started doing this. The old man sold all his jd equipment and went and bought old-school equipment. We spent a feww weeks getting it all in tip top shape. Never had a stop or breakdown that kept us from working for years with regular maintenance. Couldn't run a new deere one season without several week long or longer breakdowns due to electronics. Theyve gone anti consumer ad. They need to pay for it

[@zamin_ali]

This issue is larger than the John Deere company. It's the same issue with the smartphone manufacturers and the automotive industry. Consumers, in general, need to start fighting back to retain their rights to the property they buy. As for John Deere, stop buying their equipment. Once their profits dropped then they'll start to learn. If they continue, then never buy their equipment and put them out of business.

[@davids.9834]

Sad but true. I love my dads old 4020 and have always looked up to john deere until recently. Like you said, they also aren't the only American company I have lost respect for and not because they make bad products but because of the greedy games they have started playing. I have noticed the local county has started buying Orange tractors over green and I know why.

[@fhuber7507]

I get 4 years from a $100 smartphone... By the time its battery fails, I'm ready to upgrade to the new $100 phone that is equal to the $700 phone from when I bought the $100 phone.

[@AStanton1966]

You're right about smart phones: all the batteries are now hard-wired to the phone, making them impossible to replace.

[@nobrakes425]

Teslas and some super car manufactures are the only automobile manufactures in the USA you can't get parts thru them if they dont approve it.

[@larryag99]

You will "own" nothing and be happy. Folks this is all a plan, and it's coming together perfectly. With politicians and judges in their pockets, the move toward surfdom is fast approaching. Buckle up folks... the world you knew is quickly disappearing.

[@michaelryan1103]

This all is so true. I had my Lawn tractor in for a carburetor problem. When I got it back they had changed a drive belt (at a labor cost of $35). They sad it was bad and needed changing. I wasn't having any problems with it, but I figured it was done so no use in making a issue of it. I got it home and started it up and the belt shot out torn in pieces. The said I must have done something wrong and I should bring it back in and they would put a new one in. I took it back and they replaced it but gave me a bill for $85.96 for doing it. I told them I wasn't paying it and they said I would be hearing from their lawyer. I did hear from their lawyer. I ended up giving in rather than fighting it in court for $85.96. I'm done with John Deere.

[@michaellewis09]

Im from waterloo iowa and my dad worked for John Derre for over 35 years till ne passed away. In the 1980s there were over 17 thousand employees at the 4 John Deere plants in waterloo. Right now John deere only has 10 thousand employees in the usa and half of them are in waterloo iowa. John Deere has turned its back on America.

[@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz]

Yep, they're building plants in Mexico now. As a former Iowan myself, I had John Deere machines around me all my life. Even the mower at my dad's workplace was a Deere.

[@franksespool8150]

Threw my beloved John Deere hat in the garbage the other day, I'm done.

[@earlribaudo4807]

There are a lot of other manufactures out there to buy there equipment. Start buying and put Deere out of business.

[@The-Friendly-Grizzly]

What you advocate is the free market at its finest.

[@mrnascar9129]

If your that smart to work on today's modern equipment, you don't need to be farming , you need to open your own shop because the average person can't work on it anyway no matter what manufacturer it is

[@robertpulliam9973]

@@mrnascar9129Farmers are far more intelligent than you give them credit, and they have been for years.

[@mrnascar9129]

@robertpulliam9973 you have know idea how much technology is in modern equipment

[@brandonm6052]

Many buy the brands we have because of the locality of the service but ya deere is the worst as far as propriety

[@PaulG.x]

2:22 Yeah , I don't think John Deere the person was involved in any actual tractor developments as he died in 1886 and was not involved in any day to day activity in the company after 1857 at which time all they made was plows.

[@fergieferguson2457]

I’m celebrating I’m about to close a deal with a big company from another country to sale 4.2 million dollars of all my John Deere equipment!!and buying equipment from them that I can work on and not involved in DEI!!unfortunately I’ve got to continue using until end of harvest..but still a win for me…

[@4fuzzybear]

I’m sorry that America let you down. I hope your new equipment works great for you. As I look at history and have watched one party continue to make your job harder every year I’ve realized it’s the same group that has sold millions of people the big green deal lie. It’s costing our country a price we can’t pay. You have my prayers and my hope that I can only help with my Vote. Union members finally noticed when the lost their jobs. Now the farmers still mad a Ron Reagan better vote against the left or get used to community farms.

[@stevemartin7464]

Well done! John Deere really seem to hate farmers.

[@teresabenson3385]

​@@4fuzzybearIt's both parties, Republicans let corporations do whatever they want.

[@justhefacts8358]

How does DEI have anything to do with right to repair?

[@BillEffinMurray]

​@@justhefacts8358DEI means we need to repair more often. One load to the dealership every few years isn't so bad. DEI turns that into every week.

[@farminstoltzfus]

Over the past 10 years, AGCO has quickly become a strong competitor to John Deere. Fendt's kinda the Cadillac of tractors. For the same money as a John Deere, you can get a nicer tractor with a long no questions asked warranty. And if you don't want to spend top dollar for a tractor with all the bells and whistles, Massey Ferguson is a stripped down Fendt with the same trouble-free drivetrain.

[@sneezabonk]

My dad has been a Massey Ferguson guy for years. (Everything is computerized but they haven't sunken so low to not be able to repair his own tractor.

[@farminstoltzfus]

I'm more of an Allis Chalmers and CASE IH farmer. Fendt was arguably AGCO's most valuable acquisition. Other manufacturers are still trying to catch up to Fendt's CVT over 25 years later.

[@bzs187]

Kubota, they are getting pretty popular for smaller, all-around work.

[@Baleboss69]

We’ve always ran case ih and new holland good tractors and customer service

[@kenvanderhoek9792]

You would get more bang for your buck if you weren't promoting JD by wearing their hat

[@tinamorris4641]

We are seeing farmers migrate to other brands (Case,etc) as their tractors reach end of life or no longer serviceable Due to high cost of proprietary parts and software. There are indeed hacks out there to bypass a Lot of this but a lot of farmers aren’t as tech friendly. We will see a migration to German and other reactors increase dramatically in coming years! We’ve already sold off JD tractors that can be replaced by Fendt/Case/New Holland. We are done with JD!!! That is why you are seeing their dealer lots with ever increasing supplies of tractors! Our JD dealer begs us to come in and we’ve told him we are done with JD. Until The woke corporate goons get replaced, the company will continue its decline. Dealers are caught in the middle. The complaints to corporate go unanswered and even our dealer knows it. And JD dealers not allowed to carry other brands so they are screwed. Fendt’s are relatively easy to work on and less costly to operate.

[@howardkettner]

And now Case is also moving production to Mexico . . . Good luck with Case.

[@fhuber7507]

1940 Farmalls still out there working with no computer.

[@ai-d2121]

Woke? Sorry. Woke? Its easy to talk Trump language but you use the word wrong. It means the opposite in modern language.

[@gmcjimmy3580]

​@@ai-d2121your TDS is obviously ruling your life, stop get some help.

[@walrusdestruction6845]

... woke? 😂

[@tedbischak1067]

Based on what I learned watching this KZbin video, the reason that John Deere is doing all of this to their customers is simple, greed.

[@ManiacRacing]

The thing you don't understand is simple: It's insane greed. Period. They will destroy everything rather than give up a penny.

[@redoneteron5933]

110%

[@c97f]

And the money they get from stock price increases is so much more than the money they get from customers, that customers become a mere nuisance.

[@jayw900]

Literally everyone understands that. The values that deere used to have are no longer in the corporation.

[@maxtrein532]

Over a few generations of farming, we went from JD to New Holland. No regrets.

[@72mak51]

I'm in Montana, grew up on a ranch here, and I've heard of this. My grandparents had it figured out: if you can, do it yourself; reuse everything because it's all resource, and spend as little as possible. Independence is freedom.

[@georgehilty3561]

Right to repair isn't just a farmer issue, it effects all of us. If you think car manufacturers wouldn't do this, you're fooling yourself.

[@qjtvaddict]

Laughing in Chinese cars

[@RightDoc]

I have a small John Deere lawn tractor. 1984 112 L. The thing is a tank. I’ve had to do many repairs learned over the years from wear and tear like a new front axle, new, muffler, new carburetor, and a couple of spindles. But it is solid. Because it was sold out, decided to look at something new that might ride a little nicer and go a little faster and I was absolutely shocked at the garbage they are selling for residential lawnmowers. They are tinny, plastic, and weigh about half as much as mine. Plus, they’ve got electronic switches etc which mine doesn’t. If there’s an EMP, I’ll be able to hop on my John Deere and go as far as my gas stores will take me. I’m sticking with the old stuff. They can keep the new crap.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

EMP is unlikely, but the reliability of the old stuff is awesome.

[@scottshaw986]

Food for thought here. If Deere wins here you can absolutely bet your vehicle will be next. You’ll park your vehicle in the driveway one evening and a “software update” will occur overnight and the next time you get in your car you’re gonna be in “limp mode” until you have the stealership to “correct” the issue. We’re already there folks. We already take a vehicle to the dealership for a transmission reprogram, power windows to be reprogrammed etc. just a matter of time before we don’t own anything else

[@ronaldjones743]

Well Klaus Schwab said you will own nothing and be happy

[@chuxtuff]

Speaking of the Devil I saw a Porsche one time that was so expensive and exclusive they actually had locks on the hood to where you need to make an appointment at the dealer to have your car serviced/fixed because essentially you're locked out of that engine compartment even if you did buy the car!! Anyway there's a VW/Porsche dealer on South Tacoma Way in Tacoma Washington where they had one of these big buck cars on display (it's been several years since this happened). They'd chain it down with heavy duty chain (it almost looked like a ship's chain it was so large) but apparently the thieves had better tools and a cutting torch. That Porsche disappeared one lonely Friday night as I recall but the funny thing was those display parking spots where those hot cars were displayed also were disappeared but by the dealership. After that they never displayed any cars outdoors like that again. I guess that expensive Porsche disappearing clinched that outcome. So that was an expensive lesson on how not to display your priciest vehicles...

[@scottchapman9931]

Keep and repair classic cars

[@jimmytate7587]

any farmer that buys Deere equipment after knowing this deserves a stupidity award.

[@hunterschlawin5475]

What if some wane ownes a old John Deere tractor from before 1990 like a 1977 2440 or a 50 or a D what do you say now.

[@Van-ch8fq]

@@hunterschlawin5475you TOTALLY missed his point. 🤦‍♂️

[@stevemartin7464]

Yeah should get a Darwin award. Just buy Case.

[@Karl-Benny]

@@hunterschlawin5475 Trade it in

[@Shadowsoul2701]

On our farm we have 3 John deeres, a 5100M, a 2950, and a 3020. The 2950 and 3020 have been heavily abused their entire life. 3020 sat for 12 years and I just got it running this year. We had the 3020 on rake duty, 2950 on the baler, and 5100 on the mower. The 2950 and 3020 had no issues, while the 5100 kept refusing to go into gear over a seat switch error and had to be shut off and restarted several times. Absolutely miserable.

[@Wallaby99b]

Just never every buy John deer again. If there are no sales, it will quickly change

[@Mikexxx531]

I'd like to believe that, but I do believe that the shareholders want to deprive the farmers of decent equipment. They're using lawfare to attack the food supply.

[@johnenzor]

The best thing to do is don't trade or sell old equipment take care of it and use the old equipment ! Don't fall for these new tractors or any other hi tec equipment otherwise you spend what you would have made will simply go to keeping people like JD rich because of the repairs. People need to use their heads and stop falling for all the hi tec crap telling you how much more you'll make.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

@@Mikexxx531 -- Probably not the ordinary shareholders -- people with some John Deere stock in their 401(k) or other retirement accounts. No, it's the executives who get fat bonuses for making this quarter more profitable than the same quarter last year, and who personally control large chunks of stock. They don't plan to keep the stock, so they want short-term profits so the stock goes up, then they can sell and move on.

[@analyticalhabitrails9857]

Make it permanent! Close them out of business, and make jihn deere an example to the rest of the Corporations!!

[@ClockworksOfGL]

Nah, JD leadership will blame everything under the sun for declining sales: weather, interest rates, commodity prices, the tooth fairy, etc.

[@neihtholmes9407]

Case doesn't let you down we have farmed for over 135 years we never had the green machines on our property, I've always heard my great great uncles say when I asked why they always used Case " John Deere wouldnt sell to us boya but International and Allis Chalmers did". Back then we only farmed 225 acres but over time grown today 8900 acres all owned which I now own and manage and in 2023 I purchased 3 green tractors a Fendt 1050 Vario and 2 Steiger KP-525 Tiger IV acres👍

[@johndavis9454]

! worked as a hired hand for a Dallas County, Iowa farmer. John Deere equipment for every need. This would have been 1982. A large John Deere dealership nearby provided excellent service, sold parts, and had mechanics who gave free advice. They even did In-The-Field service calls! That is a good business plan that gets repeat customers and new customers! It seems Deere has forgotten that logic, a sad comment but true. Farmers talk with wallets and if they find a better deal with another implement company that is where they will go.

[@pensiveidea]

If a company is listed on a stock exchange this behaviour is 100% guaranteed.

[@NorthernContrarian]

Working in the farm equipment industry I don’t understand why John Deere stays so popular in the US. Farmers keep complaining yet they keep buying the same brand. It’s like voting with ones wallet isn’t a thing anymore. Look across to Europe and there are far more wider spread of manufacturers used. It’s the “brand loyalty” that keeps screwing farmers. Being loyal to a brand out of principle is the worst thing to do as a customer. Always buy products form a company that does the right things. Reward them for that and others will follow. It’s easy to blame the manufacturer and complain that the other brand doesn’t offer this that or the other convenient tech and keep buying from the most evil corp. All this starts from the end users. Stop buying the stuff that hurts you.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

Absolutely - send Deere & Co a message - they'll get it eventually ! They must be under significant pressure to perform ovet and above, given that they're pretty much the only ag business that hasn't been subject to mergers and takeovers, whereas everybody else of note, has been. No sympathy though !

[@suseanneegoulet1033]

I see less and less Big Green equipment here, the farmers are replacing them with other brands. Can't speak for the rest of the country, but my neighbors are over John Deere.

[@Zero01k]

They keep buying deere cause their daddy bought deere, their grandfather bought deere, their great grandfather bought deere and so on. And by God they aren't going to be the ones to break that tradition, kool-aid drinkers are like that.

[@jared2.028]

They buy because they get service and parts, deere makes good stuff, but like anything you buy you need good service and there are alot more.deere shops than any other brand, look at agco there dealers are few and far betweeen and it shows, how many gleaners do they sell compared to a deere or even case machine.

[@willdsm08]

They don't return for the brand, they return for the dealer. If you have a good dealer that only sells Deare, you buy it. If good dealers were working with different companies that were close, they would use them instead.

[@donaldshimkus539]

Moving plants to Mexico? Who's going to do the work? They're all moving here. Just stop buying JD, sell your JD equipment to other countries and buy different brands. Help JD to sink itself.

[@jim4448]

Building back better in a foreign country.Thank you president Biden 😢😢

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@jim4448 This is happening all over the world... It is not dependent on any country's leader of the moment. It is caused by greed...by the money people behind the corporations....

[@pctrashtalk2069]

The role of globalization is to homogenize all cultures, and to turn them into commodified markets, and therefore, to make them easier for global corporations to control. Global corporations are even now trying to commodify all remaining aspects of national cultures, not to mention indigenous cultures. - Jerry Mander Mander was program director at the Foundation for Deep Ecology, and in 1994 founded the International Forum on Globalization, a multi-national think tank in counterpoint to the World Trade Organization and the North American Free Trade Agreement that held sold-out teach-ins and launched the anti-corporation movement. “This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of one world government. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept.” - Zbigniew Brzezinski

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

My reply was censored so I'll try again. JD is a share market company. Big money controls it. Big money only wants bigger money. Mexico promises bigger money one way or another. JD is no longer American.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

My reply was censored so I'll try again. JD is a share market company. Big money controls it. Big money only wants bigger money. Mexico promises bigger money one way or another. JD is no longer American.

[@allenburns3177]

I worked for an elevator company, One of the world's biggest five. The elevator software we used had protection to prevent pirated software being used. If you had a laptop computer say from Chicago and hooked it up to an elevator in Miami it would lock up that elevator it was hooked up too. Then it would take a tech support person from corporate to come out and reset that elevator that the customer would have to pay for since you hooked up an unauthorized computer to the system (many thousands $). Each elevator would only allow specific diagnostic laptops to be hooked up. Each tech's laptop was recorded when you hooked up your computer. Then when your laptop was updated they would check to see if you hooked up to any elevators not under their maintenance contracts. The customer could buy a laptop for around $30,000 which only gave you about 25% of the functions of an adjusters laptop. Many functions you could not monitor or change adjustments. They make huge profits by eliminating repair and maintenance competition from third parties.

[@timmyhipbird7543]

should be prosecuted for monopolizing

[@naijagoatfarmer]

@allenburns3177 I wonder if, and how, safety regulations came into play within the obviously safety-critical aspects of elevator operations.

[@Fusako8]

My grandfather was a loyal John Deere customer for well over 50 years. I'm glad he didn't live long enough to get the repair quote for his ride-on mower; $5000 for quite simple sheet metal repair. ("We don't make that model anymore, and have a limited stock of replacement parts") Fortunately my uncle has over 50 years welding experience (If you've been to a Rite Aid in Maine, he probably put the steel up for it.) and helped me weld new sheet metal to the mowerdeck and fasten the bogey wheels securely. Took us less than an hour. I don't even bother getting quotes for electronics from them. Don't care if the warrantee is violated by fixing it, I'll just get it done. The whole "you can't fix it, only we can fix it!" is BS when the customer is more qualified than John Deere themselves to fix it.

[@Hellbillyhok]

We've had, David Brown,Ford, International Harvester, Massey Ferguson,Case,John Deere and Valtra in our agricultural contracting business over decades, don't be brand loyal and you'll get much better service

[@SurferJoe46]

Go RED! JD went into the toilet when the 2nd and 3rd generation siblings of the JD family decided to drop the yellow paint on the tractor wheels and they got removed - but not for long. The old-dogs are dead and the children of the old dogs are just greedy.

[@sethwaggoner6497]

It seems like many iconic companies that started many decades ago have lose their perspective of what made them great in the first place. They produce a product, but it only makes them money if it is purchased. Maintaining a good relationship with the purchasers of the product is the ONLY way to continue selling your product to them! If companies like John Deer lose their perspective, then it is only fitting if they LOSE THEIR CUSTOMERS!

[@SirAser.F__k.you.Google]

they lost their focus from good quality, to making fast money ..with the replacement of men with old school values, to company-scalpers in suits!

[@oBseSsIoNPC]

Well, I am a mechanic who specializes in JD equipment and I refuse to support anything newer than 2012, since they stopped making 9770 combines. THAT right there was a very clear indicator, that JD has lost their marbles. Make the best damn all around combine there is and then stop it's production entirely and replace it with a piece of shit that couldn't even hold the cab door closed properly. Needless to say, JD was on the deathbed since about 2010 and I dislike the idea of farmers constantly buying their new junk. We should all either switch brands at the same time or just simply stop farming for the year and see what happens. Don't think for a second other manufacturers won't follow suit after they reach the size of JD.

[@bobfg3130]

Time to specialise on something else.

[@oBseSsIoNPC]

@@bobfg3130 nope 😜 combines are still my babies and until I retire, I can find parts or make them myself. I will NEVER buy into new crap, nor will I support people that do.

[@vk45de54]

It's not just John Deere, it's Apple, Samsung, car manufacturers. All these scumbags want to force consumers to use their repair service.

[@ChillyDippers]

They are doing the same thing as every other major corporation. Putting dividend payouts before the company well being.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

Surely if the company isn't doing so well, its dividends payments to shareholders is gonna suffer also ?

[@ChillyDippers]

@@jamesbarbour8400 you would think so now wouldn't you.

[@aitorbleda8267]

​@@jamesbarbour8400 Not really. It is strip mining value. Customers up to a point are hostages, at least short term, in these situations. So they can just shake up the customers, make more money than they paid for the company, and buy another one. This was done in the 80s and early 90s, and is the background history of pretty woman.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

@@aitorbleda8267 hi and thank you for your reply. The sheer level of corruption in Business never ceases to amaze me. Interesting point about the movie, starring Julia Roberts, but surely you are referring to 'Erin Brockovitch' ? Or have I got my wires crossed .....again ?

[@joekahno]

The point many non-farmers miss is that this isn't fringe utility equipment. It's part of their core business where down time has a drastic impact on their ability to produce at a profit. Deere is fighting to protect their revenue stream from competition by third party repair shops while their customers who have made a huge capital investment in Deere equipment are fighting to survive and remain in business.

[@OldtimeIronman]

My view is that Deere should have made enough off the original sale of the equipment. Especially if they are trading themselves on Wall St. Why should the revenue stream from repair be so important to them? Greed? Or does their business model suck that much?

[@joekahno]

@@OldtimeIronman When you are growing a business there is no "enough", you optimize your revenue streams to discover what the market will support. But a voluntary, value for value, transaction is one thing. Showing up at your customers farm and saying something like, "nice operation you have here, be a shame if all your equipment stopped working", isn't business. There was a time when we prosecuted organized crime instead of electing it.

[@GrayD1ce]

And here I thought they raised the price die to that green paint

[@Brian-mp6bg]

Farming is now experiencing the tech world, the GPS unit is a prime example. Old tech reaches a point where it is no longer supported.

[@joekahno]

​@@Brian-mp6bg The last time I drove a tractor, the idea of doing a soil sample grid on your fields so that your fertilizer spreader could link to the tractor's GPS to customize application on the fly was too far out for believable science fiction. Now I'm being told that the tractor manufacturer is refusing to support an outdated GPS module. Uh... Ok... Guess I'll find one of the grand kids and see if they want to learn how to play checkers, without using any electronics at all.

[@phantom0456]

I’ve always used Ford/New Holland products. What John Deere is doing here is both greedy and shameful. This is why old tractors and other farming equipment that are pre-software have shot up in value, because you don’t need to deal with any of their garbage software blocks to keep them up and running. That said, if car ECU’s can be hacked then so can tractor ECU’s.

[@PrinceAlhorian]

My grandfather use to farm, he was a die hard Massey Ferguson fan, he always said: If it ain't red, leave it in the shed. If it's green, on my farm it won't be seen. I mean, John Deere isn't the only equipment manufacturer. The Germans (Fendt and Duetz Fahr, Lamborghini), the Dutch (Claas) and even the Russians (Kirovets) provide excellent equipment. Then there is New Holland, Ferguson and Challenger in the USA.

[@royeb63]

Lamborghini tractors are still made in, and owned by, an Italian company. It's only the car company that is owned by VW Group.

[@PrinceAlhorian]

@@royeb63 Sorry to break it to you but Lamborghini Trattori is part of the SDF group. The group's products are commercialized under the brand names SAME, Deutz-Fahr, Lamborghini Trattori, Hürlimann, Grégoire and VitiBot. Now SDF is a Italian company true, but all Lamborghini Tractors are now assembled in the same Deutz-Fahr factory as the "German" machines. The new Lamborghini Tractors share the Same design esthetics as the Deutz machines and most of the parts are cross compatible. The brand name has been kept for the recognition and certain sub class tractors.

[@idmhead0160]

This is one company that 100% needs to be broken up.

[@dlansburg2673]

Remember monopoly,I do too

[@bobstuart2638]

In the '60s, a lot of farmers would have bought John Deere underwear if Deere sold it, because during the depression, all the other manufacturers had done repossessions.

[@user-ho1uy4db1k]

I come from a long line of JD enthusiasts. When I bought a new tractor last year, it was a Kubota.

[@royreynolds108]

I retired from Trane, Inc. in 2013. They built a compressor plant in Monterrey, Mexico which opened in 1998. The compressor lines in Tyler, TX were dismantled. We got sand, gravel, and in one case nothing in a compressor from Monterrey.

[@andrewsallee6044]

For anyone who thought your headlamp example was far fetched... several car manufacturers have models that require reprogramming after replacing an HID headlamp.

[@TiffanyPowers-s5q]

Exactly! Anyone saying otherwise doesn’t know cars at all.

[@willieverusethis]

And batteries.

[@adasterdezaster2865]

Looking at you BMW

[@williamkingston5793]

I can confirm that about headlights. I used to work for a leading headlight manufacturer. We used to complain about the fact that many of the headlights had CAN-bus computers BUILT-IN! That means it HAS to be programmed to communicate with the main computer in the vehicle, otherwise it won't work. If you buy it at a junkyard, parts store, even dealer, you will have to bring it to the dealer to program the computer to recognize the replacement headlight in order to get it to turn on! This isn't the only vehicle part with this issue. It is going to get worse.

[@BluCappy419]

Just look at the damn windshield, everything about these monstrosities are designed to make you have to buy parts and repair from them and only them. Is there one good reason a Semi truck or a farming tractor needs a proprietary aerodynamic bubble window?

[@kennethbosley1915]

If John Deere wants to screw the American farmer and ditch the American worker, then I say let's all transition (tractor by tractor and implement by implement) to someone who will listen, who will help us repair, and who won't treat us all like ATM machines with a bottomless pile of cash. Time to stop being treated like a sharecropper on our own land.

[@IndependenceIron]

I was proud to work at John Deere in 2010 Davenport Works. They were a good company to work for and a very well run factory with a great culture and workers who believed in the company. This sell out to mexico is going to cost them that culture, and make their quality worse. Definitely time to look at other brands!

[@6gredlite907]

This is what I hate about american icon companies. Instead of tightening up the belt and surviving during the hard times they just get up and leave, and people suffer over those decisions.

[@ClingyParasite]

John Deere acting like as if they are Ferrari. Being just as anti consumer.

[@farmerinchico]

Focusing Farmers to use their Dealers. Truly horrible experience! !

[@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032]

Time to let Case/New Holland shine!

[@howardkettner]

Case is also headed for Mexico . . . Good luck

[@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032]

@@howardkettner booooooo.....

[@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032]

@@howardkettner traitors... all of them.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@cigarsgunsanddiesel8032 Stop thinking of any corporate product as belonging to any particular country. The share market means that "ownership" of the corporation actually belongs to the money men and they don't care about your country or my country.. They look at tax rates, bribes, incentives and profits...always profits. More money tot be made shifting production to Mexico??? ..hello Mexico here we come for our bribe money! Harley D...off to Thailand!

[@timheersma4708]

​@@howardkettnerCase (and many others) have manufacturing sites around the world)

[@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980]

This is why I tell people they shouldn't buy John Deere anymore they should buy New Holland

[@chriss-nf1bd]

Imagine if ford wouldn't let you replace a flat tire on your car? That you had to go to a dealer to get an over price tire. Only have to wait a month or two to get your car back due to backlog. Add insult to injury have to pay a storage fee. Lets not forget the damage done to your car. From dirt, scratches and dings that somehow appears. Not also to forget all the pressure of upselling.

[@alive.off-grid]

We got rid of all of our John deer products 6 years ago. Because they wouldn't Allow us to work on our own tractors equipment. We switched up to Case and that's what we run now

[@rockscrambler6700]

Good for the farmers boycotting John Deere.

[@ScottBurch-el5qi]

Deere has been off shoring for years. In 1987 I bought a Honda riding mower that was totally manufactured in Elizabeth NC. I had shopped at Deere but found out that it had a Mitsubishi engine. I got an MBA in my 40's because I wanted to learn why executives thought the way that they did. I found out that they care about numbers but not people. Well, numbers don't do the work. Americans CAN compete if they have good managers.

[@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz]

Yes they can! That's why so many Japanese car companies run plants in the US now. I had a 91 Toyota Camry built in the US and it was the best car I'd ever owned to that point. I drive a US made Honda now and it's my new favorite.

[@debrainwasher]

This is the infamous Economy 4.0: You will own nothing, but you will be happy. The first step was to redefine a purchase. In ancient times, a purchase of a good constituted property. Contemporary thigh technological legal R&D showed, a purchase should no longer be an act to create property, because this is bad for large multinational corporates. The better way is to let customers buy a license to use for a particular time in accordance with marketing- and revenue-needs. Something, streaming providers for music, movies and software suppleires do for a while. Now it hit commercial utility hardware.

[@Buck58]

The company greed now a days is sickening..

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Companies are mostly owned by share market investment companies. It's the money....always follow the money!

[@stevemartin7464]

Its the new American way; Greed, Greed, Greed, Just like Boeing and many others.

[@anindividual3889]

I don't know how anyone can even stand their dealerships. I can't deal with them. They will not come down on price and they are awful to deal with. Glad I switched to Kubota.

[@willyschmitt5665]

The best John Deere tractors are the older John Deere tractors before they started putting emissions garbage and electronics on them making the later models less reliable and expensive to fix. The 60 series and earlier models are their best tractors.

[@jamesmckee4039]

The feds (EPA) mandated FT4 compliance back about 2012...that made tractors MUCH more expensive, reliant on DEF, and drove customers away from NEW tractors. Deere was forced to comply, just as all major producers were!

[@willyschmitt5665]

But that doesn't mean you have to buy a newer John Deere tractor, buy a nice reliable 4955 or 4960. A mechanical 4wheel drive 240 horse power tractor that is completely reliable and farmer fixable.

[@GrayD1ce]

You could run a 4440 without the alternator or any electronics once you got it started, disked many a field waiting on an alternator and grandpa wanted to start planting

[@willyschmitt5665]

A John Deere 4440 is a very good tractor. 140 horse power and reliable.

[@MarkSmith-js2pu]

Modern cars have the same bs that we don’t need.