John drives BigMike's Truck at 511:1 Crawl Ratio

[@Husoku]

Thanks for the comments! @coolassyota: I am running a Triple Ultimate Marlin Crawler consisting of a Marlin W56-HD transmission > 2.28 Marlin Crawl Box > MC08-23 Billet Marlin Adapter > 2.28:1 Marlin Crawl Box > MC08-23-R10 Rotated Billet Marlin Adapter > 4.70 23-spline Total Spline Marlin Competition Chromoly geared transfer case. Then at the axles I have Marlin-built Yukon 5.29:1 gears with Toyota Electric Lockers front & rear. So it's 510.53:1, or 511:1 final drive.

[@JayMS916]

Basically idled over the rocks. Pretty cool.

[@ganndallas]

Wakes up in tent. "Honey where's the truck?!" exclaims wife in concerned tone. No worries babe, it's just looking up ahead for bears a little ways.

[@JimLBon]

That is AWESOME! Thanks for sharing! I have a stock '82, about to drop a 20R head on and will step the gears up a tad and put on 31's, nothing hardcore at all. Just a nice stocker. I won't be doing anything like this with it (It's in such nice original condition, hard to find like that these days) but that Tcase setup is sweet. What a crack up to put it in low and walk around the truck, just for giggles. Bet that truck will crawl up just about anything.

[@Husoku]

Hello Shane, thank you for your question. This is done with no throttle at idle RPM, which reads 800 rpm on my tach. To illustrate the amount of torque the Marlin Crawler generates, when I am idling in first gear in 4WD and press the brake pedal with both feet as hard as I can, the idle will drop to about 700 RPM and the truck will continue to Crawl. So 700 RPM with zero throttle is more than enough torque to overcome all four wheel disc brakes.

[@ghostxop2101]

At that reduction, you could attach pedals and push it yourself

[@davidcakers6818]

Probably take about a fortnight to pedal up there with 511:1 ratio, we need a guinea pig....

[@ron486]

Got Marlin? That's crawling baby. 🎯💯

[@prelude2nsanity]

Freaking awesome. Working on getting a dual case setup now for my 85.

[@99fxr68]

Marlin would be proud

[@tavonator4089]

why would anyone hit the dislike button. bet is some jeep guys hating cause yotas too Cool for them lol

[@jx906]

I thumbed down because you said "yotas".

[@Husoku]

@TheSteelhead15 Thanks for the comment. In 1st gear it should do about 0.14 MPH at idle, and in 30th gear I've had it up to 110 MPH with the 37s. My speedometer doesn't go up that high, so I had a friend in another vehicle verify it. The 3RZ has great power, but it was really struggling to get to 110.

[@Husoku]

@revococo: Ignoring losses, It is true that my truck can develop 90,363 ft-lbs of Torque to the tires, and even more to the point, Marlin's CRAWLER truck can develop 242,866 ft-lbs of TQ, in both cases thanks to our Marlin Crawler setups. Obviously that is grossly more TQ than what a stock birfield can handle (about 50,000 ft-lbs), so it is all about how you drive according to your vehicle's limits. I ran stock Birfields with 35" tires for 4 yrs, upgraded when I got 37" tires. Never broke any.

[@Husoku]

@justbeabro You are absolutely correct, 511:1 is far too low as is Marlin's 1,372:1. Both are impractical. But we run triple cases to prove the strength of our products, and to be able to demonstrate what lower gearing can do for the customer. The nice thing about it is how it's fully selectable: My 1st gear low range ratios include 47:1, 98:1, 109:1, 224:1, and 511:1. The majority of our customers use the 109:1 ratio, while some opt for the 224:1. The sky's the limit with Marlin Crawler!

[@Husoku]

@1450chaser: I am running 5.29:1 axle gearing because for the first 6 years after building the truck she was my daily driver (37" tires + 5.29:1 gears is almost the same tire-to-gear ratio as stock). You are correct in that if only used off road, stock gears would be plenty low (my Crawl ratio would be 397:1 with 4.11:1 axles). In fact, some people do this because its cheap and easy to find stock 4.11:1 replacements at wrecking yards. It just won't drive well on road stoplight-to-stoplight.

[@TheBuzzerd]

Crazy torque! Gotta love it. Long live Yota

[@99fxr68]

Did John ever get those dual cases? Trying to find an R1FA as I type this..Not as ubiquitous as they used to be

[@Husoku]

Hello taitai907, that is correct, due to my Marlin Crawler Triple Ultimate Crawler transfer case, I literally have 30 different forward gears (and 6 different reverse gears!). Marlin's truck is even better with 35 forward and 7 reverse gears! The simplest way to explain it is that I have a 5 speed transmission and a 6 speed transfer case; 5 * 6 = 30. The 6 different t/case ratios I can select are: 1:1 (for city & freeway), 2.28:1, 4.70:1, 5.20:1, 10.72:1, and 24.43:1. Thanks for the comment!

[@Husoku]

bachkrabbler, actually because the Marlin Crawler can greatly reduce your vehicles speed, the driver has an enormous amount of time to react to the trail and his truck. Marlin wheeled his truck at 1,047:1 for over 10 years on STOCK axles and never once broke them, and his truck weighs over 4,500 pounds loaded! It is all about driving accordingly. You are right, if you get in a bind and floor it and load up the drive train, something must break. But we have so much time to respond! It's amazing!

[@ruta_rally]

Really cool!!! There is lots of torque to the axle shafts... Have you ever broke a birf or something? Do you have them stock or beefed them up? I´m sasing a sidekick (locked yota axles) and already have 36 tsl´s but I´m wondering how much abuse will the axleshafts would handle. Thanks Keep Crawling!!!

[@Husoku]

Haha yeah that's crazy! I am just like Marlin in that I prefer how a 4cyl engine Rock Crawls, how it lugs down and has great throttle control even at RPMs as low as 300. They are lightweight (don't need other heavy weight drive train components), generate less heat (only 1 exhaust manifold, don't need a large radiator, more air flow/clearance in engine bay), and there is less to go wrong, less to break down, cheaper to maintain. The 3RZ-FE is great because it makes as much power as the 3.0 V6!

[@Husoku]

@JuniorPros118: Absolutely! When the Marlin Crawler is shifted into High Range, it becomes a 1:1 direct drive device, so that is behaves just like a stock pickup. My truck shown in this video has 37" tires and a 1995 2.7-liter 3RZ-FE fuel injected Tacoma engine, and on the freeway it gets 21 MPG at 60 MPH or 19 MPG at 75 MPH. My upgraded Marlin Crawler brakes and High Steer steering system provide very nice road manners and the truck is a pleasure to drive on-road or off-road. Thanks!

[@Husoku]

Thank you Sir! The truck works very hard for me and has yet to let me down :-)

[@lacombboy]

i am new to the dual/triple cases thing, how come you are running the 2.28:1 crawl boxes and 4.70:1 gears in your t-case instead of the 4.70:1 crawl boxes and 4.70:1 gears in your t-case?

[@Husoku]

@57RxRxRgaming57 It is a Marlin Crawler Triple Ultimate system (2.28:1-2.28:1-4.70:1) between a 3.95:1 MC W56-A-HD transmission and 5.29:1 Marlin Crawler differentials with 37" MTRs on 8" wide allied beadlocks. The truck will be up at the 11th Annual Marlin Crawler Round-Up this weekend at the Rubicon Springs Campground.

[@Husoku]

Thanks for the comments guys! The cool thing is that the Marlin Crawler can be disengaged and I can cruise on the freeway at 80 MPH without a hitch :) It's a lot of fun!

[@Husoku]

patriotsundergod: I wanted to comment why I run my 30-speed setup: I can demonstrate stock low range, single 4.70 low range, dual stock low range, and dual Ultimate low range. Marlin's 35-speed setup cannot demonstrate a dual stock low range setup (since he has two 4.70s), so my setup is preferred to show potential customers what each Marlin Crawler gearing option can do for their truck. It's a lot of fun meeting new people out on the trail and showing them the gearing options!! :-)

[@justbeabro]

Marlin's parts are sick..No lie....but I see it as kind off killing most of the foot control aspect ....Like there is no challenge anymore with extreme gears like that..... Just an opinion of mine.

[@noredline83]

lol thats how fast the space shuttle taxi's to it's launch pad haha

[@AlxJ64]

That thing is annoyingly slow... I love it.

[@Husoku]

patriotsundergod: In terms of Rock Crawling, you are right. The only time I have really "needed" 1st gear is when I was about to take body damage. I could let the clutch out while riding the brakes very hard and then determine to continue or not. Its mainly a demonstration gear. Marlin Crawler considers 223:1 to be the "Ultimate" gear ratio (term coined in 1997), but I find my 2nd gear (277:1) is the most ideal ratio for me. It sure is nice to shift into any gear ratio I need and just go! :)

[@danimal4300]

i like the old body style that it's got

[@KyleAutomotive1]

so is this idling in first gear?

[@justbeabro]

@Husoku Good way to prove strength! I run Marlin Shock hoops and some diff armor... I try to keep it old school but its hard to when you see so many insane parts!

[@chrisg7823]

what colors is this truck I like the 2 tone nice truck btw

[@James225]

"GHOST RIDE THA WHIP.....GHOST RIDE THA WHIP"

[@YotaOn38]

yall should have a tug o war with the marlin and this truck, but no one can be in the cab during the pull, could be interesting since the gearing is so low

[@Husoku]

OSSBanshee, thanks for your comment. No worries about how slow this is, indeed it is too slow for this obstacle! The same applies for Marlin's truck which is 1,372:1: we do it to demonstrate how incredible a Marlin Crawler is. For normal wheeling I run between 35-100:1, when I'm on rocks larger than my truck I run 80-200:1, when I am extremely nervous I'll use 2nd gear at 277:1, and only when I'm doing something really stupid then I'm in 1st at 511:1. Otherwise it's just for show! :-D Cheers!

[@stevegriffith6478]

Husoku I know this video is old but curious to what your set up is to get that. I run 4.11 R150F witch has a first of 3.83 first gear first case is 2.28 and rear is 4.70 . With a 35 in tall tire I’m right at 110:1 I’m trying to figure out what combination y’all came up with to get 511:1 unless I’m doing my math wrong. Just curious that’s all.

[@TrainboyRR]

That's a cool truck.

[@Big_Ben1988]

Did he just ghost ride the whip towards the end? While rock crawling?

[@cbr600rx7]

That is sick no two ways about it.

[@mdechineseconnection8263]

classic truck right there

[@57RxRxRgaming57]

what are your tcases geared at and what tires and gears you runnin?

[@AskyuaMatha]

@justbeabro I get what you mean, but in some cases even mad foot control doesnt help much, the steepness of the incline and/or toughness of the terrain, e.g. rocks, will otherwise just lead to a burnt clutch.. Thats why low-range is needed, or in extreme circumstances, a crawl box!

[@theirishaxe9405]

So what's the regular? 255:1?

[@MarlinCrawlerMedia]

Hello John, thank you for the comment. In short, the typical reduction for what we call the Dual Ultimate Setup, is 223:1. In detail, the typical t/case gear reductions our customers run are 2.06-times, 2.28-times, and 4.70-times lower than stock. (BigMike's Triple Ultimate t/case setup is 10.72-times lower than stock, and Marlin's Triple Overkill t/case setup is 22.09-times lower than stock!) With the typical stock axle ratio of 4.11:1, a manual transmission 1979-95 4cyl pickup or 4Runner will have a 1st gear final drive ratio of 37:1. With our basic and simplest to install single 4.70:1 gear set, the final drive goes from 37:1 to 76:1 (or 98:1 with 5.29:1 R&P) With our basic Dual Case setup, the final drive goes from 37:1 to 84:1 (or 108:1 with 5.29:1 R&P) and with our Dual Ultimate Setup, the final drive goes from 37:1 to 174:1 (or 223:1 with 5.29:1 R&P) We call the above the Ultimate ratio because anything around the 200 to 250:1 reduction truly is the ultimate setup for the most demanding situations!

[@97144967]

what gear ratio would you recommend for 37's, i have an 84 extend cap that im in the middle of doing an ls swap into

[@Husoku]

Hello 97144967, I recommend 5.29:1 diff gears. This ratio will get your RPMs almost back to stock (they will be slightly higher than stock). Their is a 5.71:1 option, but they do not have nearly as good a reputation as the 5.29s. The basic rule is 37" or larger = 5.29s, 35" = 4.88s, 33" = 4.56s. My truck shown in this video runs 37x12.50R15 tires and 5.29:1 Ring and Pinions. -BigMike

[@97144967]

sweet thanks alot, this is my first 4wd build of this scale. hopefully ill have the ls fired up soon and ill be able to focus more on suspension and axels

[@Husoku]

Sounds good. Also, I wrote, "[your RPMs] will be slightly higher". I meant to say they will be slightly lower. So 37" + 5.29:1 R&P will be slightly taller than the stock 29" + 4.11:1 R&P combination. You can play with our online Vehicle Speed Calculator to compare the differences: www.marlincrawler.com/java/getspd_calc.html -BigMike

[@Husoku]

@livelaughin77 Thanks for asking! I am running 37x12.50x15 tires with a 4" suspension lift.

[@overlandoff-road8220]

How did you get 511:1 with just two TC’s?

[@MarlinCrawlerMedia]

Bryan, thank you for the question. BigMike has a Triple Marlin Crawler Transfer case system comprising of 2.28:1, 2.28:1, and 4.70:1 gear sets. Triple are, of course, unnecessary, but with these gears BigMike can demonstrate all our popular gear options: Factory 2.28:1, Single 4.70 (4.70:1), Stock Duals 5.19:1 (2.28 X 2.28), and Dual Ultimate 10.72:1 (2.28 X 4.70). Marlin and BigMike are the only employees with Triples and they do this specifically to demonstrate these available gearing options that we commonly sell! Thanks! Side note: We are migrating all our videos from BigMike's old personal YT account (this account, "Husoku") to our official Marlin Crawler Media account. This video might get deleted and reloaded to our MarlinCrawlerMedia account soon.

[@jnny3000]

nice crawler

[@TheZkj]

What bumper are you running and where can i get one?

[@jan3019]

It's old truck but i still dream on getting one of this

[@Husoku]

@livelaughin77 Whoops, sorry yes I do also have a 1" body lift. My suspension is a bit complicated. I have removed 2 leafs from my front 4" Marlin Crawler springs and 3 leafs from my rear pack, running 2" pivot blocks in the rear with custom 1-way lockouts. The height of my truck is about 2" lower than a comparable truck with only a 4" suspension lift and no body lift.

[@Husoku]

@YotaOn38 WOW That is a GREAT IDEA!!!! I am sure Marlin's truck will win because it's a good 800+ pounds heavier. Oh man that would be so fun to do! Okay, I will do this for sure this spring :-)

[@Husoku]

@ToyotaGuy88 Negative. This is BigMike, Marlin's son!

[@bigfu33]

big mike. im gonna run 33' tires. what lift would you suggest

[@kyleshipman5383]

What kind of lockers do you recommend for this year yota?

[@Husoku]

Hello Kyle, thank you for the comment. This is a loaded question and you'll see different opinions depending on who you ask. In my opinion, because I also use my truck to drive to the trail and back and do a lot of city and highway driving, I prefer a locker that can be turned off. This also fits my driving style on the trail where I prefer to wheel as much as I can open-open and only use the locker when I am stuck. I find a lot more challenge and control this way. The two choices for me become 1) air-operated or 2) electric-motor-operated. Air operated lockers include the ARB Air Locker and the Yukon Zip Air Locker. Both are excellent choices, but I prefer the electric-motor approach, which is where we take an electric locker from either a FJ80 Land Cruiser or a Tacoma/4Runner and modify our older Hilux axle housings to accommodate. This does require some fabrication work but instead what I did was I installed a complete Tacoma rear axle (1995-2004 8" e-locker type) into the rear of my 1981 pickup. This also gave me the advantage of a wider trackwidth for improved stability. (My front axle is the width of a FJ80 Land Cruiser.) I explain why I prefer the Toyota E-Locker by explaining what I dislike about air operated lockers: An air locker _requires_ air pressure to operate. If you do not have air pressure then the locker does not engage. Therefore, if the air source is ruptured externally (rock snags your air line or exhaust melts it) or internally (ring gear rubs on the copper air line due to installation error) then you are screwed. Also your air compressor could take a dump and you'd be screwed again. (Also if it leaks internally then you will pressurize your axle housing and risk blowing out axle seals.) With an E-Locker, if the motor fries or my wiring melts down or a I blow a fuse and don't have a spare, no biggie, I'll just remove two bolts and slide the motor off and then manually engage or disengage the locker using a flat head screwdriver. Done. So even in the worse case scenario I can have an always open or always locked (spool) e-locker. Then at the end of the trail I can just unlock it and drive home normally without fear or losing control of my vehicle or wearing out tires. Some will say, "oh well you have to wire the e-locker" and my argument is well you have to wire an air locker also: It has switches, relays, wiring, fuses, grounds, etc. There is a good argument for the air locker and that is that it is a stronger design than the Toyota e-locker. But because these older Toyota trucks are lightweight I have never worried about the strength of my e-locker. After all Toyota designed it for a truck much larger than my old Hilux that had a V6 and a towing package so it is plenty strong enough for Rock Crawling. The alternative to all of this is to have an automatic type locking differential where there is no wiring no motors no fuses no compressors to worry about. For this I'd recommend either a Yukon Grizzly or an Eaton Detroit locker. This is a locker that is installed inside your differential and it uses a ratcheting mechanism to sense large differences in torque loading to each axle shaft and engages only when needed. The issue here for me is that it is always there and is unpredictable: If you're going around a highspeed constant corner with dirt or salt in the middle of the road from snow and ice management and you gun it and hit the gas, the locker may (or may not!) engage suddenly even at highway speeds causing your outside tire to loose traction and your truck to oversteer (drift). I'd much rather have a locker where I can choose when to engage it and prevent this. Also when you make sharp corners at low speeds in a parking lot and accelerate the locker will engage and you'll have your tires chirping even trying to find parking in a parking lot which causes a ton of unnecessary wear to very expensive off-road tires! I hope this helped and have a nice day!

[@kyleshipman5383]

+Husoku thanks man for all the info! Im planning on buying an 82 yota in the near future and want to build it so it can be a daily, and good offroad, so the arb air lockers sounds like the best bit

[@Husoku]

Sounds good. It will cost more up front as air lockers (and also the e-locker) are more expensive and require extra work (wiring, a compressor, etc), but in the long run having a selectable locker will FAR out weigh the initial investment. What we see are many people starting out with an auto locker only 1 or 2 yrs later removing it and switching to a selectable type -- which costs more overall as they have to pull parts out and reset the pattern on their ring and pinions twice. Honestly the freedom of being able to run open or locked at any time is truly amazing. It is awesome to be slowing going down the trail and then suddenly you lose forward momentum and you just sit there slowing spinning a tire.... work the wheel right... then left... ease off the throttle as much as possible without stalling it... and then at the last moment you flip 1 simple switch to engage your locker and WHAM suddenly you magically pull over that rock. It is an amazing feeling! Also one additional thing I forgot to mention is turning capability. We all know why we have a differential in the first place, so that our tires can turn at an unequal rate of rotation, but you don't realize how important this is in terms of your cornering radius until you try turning corners with automatic lockers (Grizzly, Detroit) or worse a fully-locked (Spool or welded). Having the ability to unlock your differential before any tight corners really pays off. I can get through tight corners and technical sections without having to backup when others are making three, four, and five point turns just to get through the trail because they have a welded front end or a Detroit out back. So a greater investment of both money and time up front, but in my opinion it is a no-brainer to go selectable from the beginning and never look back. Also if you ever decide to sell your truck in the future, I guarantee your resell value will be far greater with a selectable locker(s). Regards, BigMike

[@Husoku]

@lacombboy: I am running a Triple T/Case setup as a 2.28:1 x 2.28:1 x 4.70:1. The reason why I do this is so I can demonstrate to customers how a Marlin Crawler can change their lives. I can show a stock setup (2.28:1), I can show a single 4.70:1 setup, I can show a standard dual case setup (2.28 x 2.28), and I can show a Dual Ultimate setup (2.28:1 x 4.70:1). Marlin's CRAWLER truck runs 2.28 x 4.70 x 4.70, so he cannot show what a stock dual case setup (2.28 x 2.28) is like, but I can :-)

[@joelmammachen]

Is it still with you ?

[@ramonparraga1407]

Cool toyota pit!!!

[@mikaelbutler91]

nice truck.looks nice!

[@450hp202turbo]

i just painted my rc scale hilux like this,

[@JuniorPros118]

could you daily drive this truck.

[@kenyonpapen2608]

Ohh shit I thought it was an rc for a minute

[@TimpBizkit]

Red line that thing! I want to see 1 mph!

[@TheSteelhead15]

Nice truck what is the top speed of this thing?

[@ryancagliostro1502]

TheSteelhead15 100mph

[@georgecadriel3034]

Awesome love it, orig, toys r the best...

[@1450chaser]

what ratio axle gears do you have? do you even have to gear the axles?

[@ryancagliostro1502]

1450chaser 5.29s and yeah

[@tsunamas]

that's the cruise speed

[@PatriotPits]

i dont know man.. too slow for me! Id be that douche behind you with the V8 snarling waiting to launch up that! But dont get me wrong, I love the concept of your truck, i also owned a tacoma for 9 years with the 3rz and that engine is a beast for its size. All and all I think thats a great build!

[@fastfreeks]

Awesome. That is super low.

[@taitai907]

Ugh! I just got a brain hemorrhage.

[@JuniorPros118]

damn. im looking for a nice toyota pick up. i wanna make it like this. thats crazy you can still get that kind of gas mileage with those 37s. put them on a v8 pickup and you're looking at 10mpg lol

[@OVERKILL_EVERYTHING]

Dude, that's so awesome!!!

[@sShHaAnNeEtTuURRd]

BAD ASS! at what RPM is it at, to do that?

[@ryancagliostro1502]

Shane Arana idle

[@Cheez1979]

Jeep guy keep Drinking that haterade

[@pabloportillo8456]

Que es lo que tiene?

[@Husoku]

@floydargue Search YT for "BigMike's 511:1 Marlin Crawler Parking Stall Burn Out" and check that out!

[@Husoku]

@crf449rsumo Thanks man!

[@Husoku]

@patriotsundergod Yeah, a winch is something I need to get still!

[@jnny3000]

nice crawler. to bad they dont still make buckshots

[@ToyotaGuy88]

Are you marlin???

[@ibetrollintheybehatin6857]

Cool Nissan

[@Husoku]

Thanks!

[@ibetrollintheybehatin6857]

LOL! I was joking, I love the first gens. I have a second. awesome vid!

[@taitai907]

Uhhhh....30th?

[@zigsz71]

that's almost cheating! haha

[@RealmfCubey]

"its so cool, its double cool" LOL

[@justbeabro]

Marlin's parts are sick..No lie....but I see it as kind off killing most of the foot control aspect ....Like there is no challenge anymore with extreme gears like that..... Just an opinion of mine