John HANLAN Fred Foreman so close to kicking off all down to John Bindon

[@JonnyRatclffe3467]

great upload ray love hearing these stories about johnny bindon👍

[@jameshartnett-rk5mn]

I had the privilege of meeting Freddie and what a gentleman his is, stand up guy🙏☯️

[@malbig2344]

The people's nut job.

[@user-pd2zx5or5p]

Another good story Ray all the best mate I live in Acton a lot off the people i no no Johnny Hanson take care mate keep the story’s coming

[@ozturkmisiri4184]

Another great story Ray

[@davidchilton8686]

Great Story Ray, i could listen to you all night.

[@JohnParish-k8q]

Nice one mate,thanks for sharing

[@Rog5446]

I lived in Notting Hill in the 50s-60s and although I never saw John Hanlon, I heard about his reputation. One story sticks in my mind, was when a landlord called the police to his pub, because he was causing trouble. A panda car arrived with two policemen, who did not get out of the car, because when they saw it was John Hanlon, they called for backup. John went up the the panda car and opened the fuel cap and pissed in the fuel tank, while the two policemen just sat there, so the story goes.

[@criartoros]

Haha that's quality

[@stevenwalton1431]

Fred foreman the real deal Guvnor of London

[@darrenfry4695]

Fred was solid, hard man didnt back down from anyone even stuck a shooter up eddie richardsons hooter with no come backs that on its own tells you the power fred possesed.

[@itsyarnaplayz7782]

Freddie made that up about pulling a gun on Eddie. Eddie pulled Fred at Tommy wisbys funeral and put it on him when they went to the wake after the funarel Fred didint go because Eddie was there. Fred made that up for the tv programme. If any one is on here and they no Eddie ask him and he will tell you. I have. He's told me plenty of story's.

[@darrenfry4695]

@@itsyarnaplayz7782 well I'm from Peckham and drank with a lot of guys that was there who says it happened ,also there's no way on this earth Fred would be scared of Eddie lol 😂

[@itsyarnaplayz7782]

@@darrenfry4695 I bet ya live in Nelson Mandela house and drink in the nags head as well.

[@charlieford1273]

It's insane to think that actually happens, I listen to some of the shit these guys say and my mouths just wide open😂😂😂

[@charlieford1273]

​@@itsyarnaplayz7782how do you know eddie on such a personal level

[@rarecockneyguvnor4945]

Good video Ray, I remember Terry Downes the Boxer , he had a few betting shops too.I forgot to tell you Ben Hatchet done me in a straightner.

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Hahaha from the back 🤣🤣🤣💯🥊🥊

[@Jefftheref-gs5km]

😂😂😂 what a story. Fred backing down , are you living in a fantasy land Ray 🤣🤣👍👍

[@peterstewart1972]

I was training and kept fit by my great friend PAT ROACH IN HIS HEALTH CLUN IN NEW STREET BIRMINGHAM FROM 1973 UNTILL HIS PASSING....PAT WAS IN A BOND FILM I REMEMBER SITTING IN BACK OF STUDIO WERE PAT WAS FILMED....

[@jakehope6811]

R.I.P pat roach rest easy Bomber my son ❤ big fan of pat Peter mate from what I heard he was a very kind generous friendly giant of a guy respect Pete hope you and the family are well pal

[@lrwguitar]

​A big fan for a two bit criminal ? How sad...

[@scoates9910]

Nice one, enjoyed that 👍. When you was around south London did you ever come across Charlie breaker?

[@stevebaker6711]

I hear Freddie Foreman was never a man to mess about with Ray.

[@georgemclaughlin4300]

I like your story I know the people you talk about and the truth you said is right god bless you 🙏 gee mac

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Yes thanks mate 💯🥊🥊all hard and mostly good people

[@bulldog-lincspirits.4648]

Another interesting vid cheers ray...👍🏻

[@peterstewart1972]

My father was Thomas Cowley He worked for KRAYS Passed away to cancer in 1982 I was brought to Glasgow as a youngster No one Evan knows I was the secret child of Thomas Cowley only Charlie I grew up been told many lies my father Evan kept me a secret....may he rest in piece

[@nasreireinas3392]

When i was a kid i remember meeting your dad, he was friends with my family,from islington,

[@waynecrosby2735]

ray av u seen the brendan video yet on dave released about 1 hour ago ?

[@andojo4747]

I remember Dave Courtney mentioning in a video that Freddie Foreman once asked him if he could look after some Italian-American youngsters who were coming to London on a trip, Foreman wanted Courtney to make sure they got into certain clubs ect and had a safe time. Apparently, the Mafia had asked Foreman to sort this as a favour. If that is the case, then Foreman must be known amongst the Mafia in New York as well... i dont know how accurate this is but i found it interesting

[@its_rick_james_bich2575]

He was around in the 60s when the US mafia were trying to make headway into gambling in up market London..and lived in the US for a while (I assume in the late 70s before he moved to Spain where he would eventually be extradited in late 80s). So yes, it’s possible he knew some of the US mafia

[@phil4893]

Fred spent time in America for a few years after he got released from the Krays thing. 79 to about 82/83. He was doing fruit machines out there. You don’t go out there and just start doing that without some sort of sponsor.

[@seandonnelly2374]

My grandad was John hanlon kph was his patch 50.s..n 60.s. No bully

[@dannypaterson888]

Imagine being someone like Foreman every Monday morning. The phone is ringing off the hook with other people's rows and problems that happened in pubs and clubs over the weekend and they all expect him to sort it. I bet half the people who's troubles he was expected to get involved in, he barely knew.

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Respect thanks yes your 💯🥊🥊 he was a dangerous man

[@patrickboyle6727]

He was really the godfather of the whole scene would you say ray? Top dog?

[@jonathanburn4388]

​@@patrickboyle6727still is he's not called the godfather for nowt

[@patrickboyle6727]

@@jonathanburn4388 yes John,he's passed away now though Freddie isn't he?

[@danrobinson572]

Yes and Freddie probably got a crust out of it.

[@roygraves2553]

Brown bread fred was old school loyal till your try to turn him over never heard him doing things to the every day man

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Your right he was a gentleman but you Cross him then you no your bang in trouble the best thing suitcase leave this world 🤣💯🥊🥊

[@patchlolly979]

Foreman was the real deal

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Yes Foreman was the real deal he was one of the best that was his job big respect to Fred Foreman 🥊🥊

[@koont666]

My old man used to spar with Terry up the regent Street gym 👍🇬🇧

[@Rog5446]

Last time I saw Terry Downes was at the Empire Leicester Square, watching Joe Frazier training for his fight with Joe Bugner.

[@shaunmufc58]

No one went to Freddie Foreman in the 60/70s laying down the law,he was the law.What is your obsession with John Bindon?

[@jasper3127]

He was the governor no one would tell him shit!

[@mrcashy5]

💯

[@jesseb5076]

It’s the same with Lenny, he has a thing about bindon and McLean 🤷‍♂️

[@davidkerr5644]

Excellent watch and very interesting about those guys. What happened cheers

[@michaelwilson4316]

Forman would should you up

[@jamiehickman9468]

Great stories from back in the day, keep em coming Ray.👍

[@stevenhensman2541]

What did you say

[@Mizalman]

My old mans said Hanlon was the hardest bloke of that era. One man wrecking crew

[@darrenmundee2706]

You’re dad was spot on mate 👍

[@pauljames1258]

Bindon sold my mate jimmy some snide blues in 64 so they smashed his jag up ,i think Charlie fenton was involved

[@martinoakley2637]

Hahaha great film

[@darrenmundee2706]

I remember that do the bastard motor 😂😂😂

[@darrenmundee2706]

Is chalky the ponse still about 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@duncandisorderly6562]

Glad you've taken down the Dave and Brendan vids 🤨 helmet

[@eifiondavies1889]

Didn’t this guy had a fight bare knuckle fight with John fury.was this true or not

[@HayleyFreemantle-c3z]

Did you know ted Freemantle?

[@paulbowman1762]

Freddie a proper decent man ? Never do you any wrong uf yoyr straight and always looj after you ! Prooer oldskool and don't make them like Freddie anymore ! Hooe your well Ray ! 👍🥊🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Ya you no he was one of the best at what he done if you new he wonted to see you RUN 🤣 I have big big respect for Fred Foreman 🥊🥊

[@paulbowman1762]

@@bangbangrayhill2218 few and far between Ray ! I don't praise any of these so called wannabe gansters these days ! They haven't got a clue mate ! They think with knives and guns and deal drugs to kids and think it entitles them to be called Gangsta ! 😂 It's Quiet and smart buisnessmen who take you in a dark alley and give you the kicking of you're life are the ones you need to watch out for mate ! Silly boys aren't they ! They'd still know who Ray Hill is if crossed I'd say Aswell Ray ! Not an older gentleman with a cap ! Wrong move Ray yeah ! 😂👍🥊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@tonydavis8916]

Alright ray in Freddie book he said he done John in he's club and then met him in the scrubs and put it on John he didn't want to know all the best ray🥊🥊🥊

[@darrenmundee2706]

Listen John as always speak highly of Freddie foreman and Elfie Gerrard I’d take that with a pinch of salt they respected each other you won’t get villains like them no more I like to see everyone getting on to much violence need more love 👍

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

Freddie Foreman was the real deal no fucking doubts..and i would shit myself if he had a tool to my cannister aswell 😂 great story Ray

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Yes he was the real deal 💯 dangerous and if he was on you run fast leave this world he had a good name powerful 🥊🥊💯

[@ponyboycurtis3795]

@@bangbangrayhill2218 brown bread Fred...yep dangerous man at the highest levels in that world.

[@Eddy-l1e]

Isn't Freddie Forman twenty years senior to you? Which would suggest you never moved in the same circles. Can you get anyone who can vouch that you was a somebody? All I hear you was a crack head who's done some porridge. I know plenty of men even some women who have done plenty of time doesn't make them gangsters or hard cases. Most will openly admit they have been idiots. I remember you telling a story about Micky Theo which proved to be a lie. He called you out publicly and your arse went hardly the actions of a proper face hard case what ever you class yourself as??? Who is Ray Hill

[@thomasreed49]

So glad Ray you are not known as a bully.

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

I've never been a bully I had respect that is so important doing what I done thanks mate 💯🥊🥊

[@daviddysko5433]

This is a good story...

[@danrobinson572]

I can’t see that Johny Hanlon putting his hands on Freddie. Especially in Freddie’s club without not walking out alive.

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

John Hanlon was one hard man I was told this who knows only Fred Foreman 🥊🥊 johns dead

[@danrobinson572]

@@bangbangrayhill2218 👍 it’s not that I’m saying your telling a lie. It’s just hard to see it happening.

[@danrobinson572]

@@bangbangrayhill2218glad you took that video down.

[@BOATSkeepcoming]

You must have come across fighters from all over the UK during your time.

[@WILLIAM1690WALES]

Freddie Foreman, whenever I see him being interviewed he seemed a fair guy, however, why would he deem it is up to him to sort out Bindon’s problems?

[@mikegleed5842]

Don't mess with Brown Bread Fred or you're Dead 😎👈

[@imnotavingthat6813]

Brown Bread Fred the OG, the last true gangster standing...

[@darrenmundee2706]

Didn’t get the name for nothing 😂😂😂👍👍

[@AJ13864]

Fred & Ronnie fields, proper men

[@imnotavingthat6813]

@@AJ13864 Very true but not in Brown Breads league

[@donhanlon7121]

Didn't know I come from fighting stock🥊🥊👌🇮🇪

[@Desertfox124]

More bull sh8t no way forman would have that more ray hill bull

[@arranhorron5173]

freddy turned great train robbery down then reynolds was asked

[@georgemclaughlin4300]

My dad was born in Paddington Albert

[@thomasobrien6601]

All the name he mentioned only one was from Paddington Alex Rose.... most others from the Grove...

[@georgemclaughlin4300]

@@thomasobrien6601 I know that mate

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Respect for that mate 💯🥊🥊

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Alex Rose were thay called Rose brothers right dangerous handfuls

[@PaulWalshp-wx4in]

BIG HOSPITAL ST MARY'S STILL THERE 👌👌

[@diggintheblueswithaparrot1329]

Bindon did security for led zeppelin, but they had to let him go cause he was such a liabilty.

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

I did hear that he wasn't a man not to take liberty that say he was a bully me and him have had some fights killed me nearly but that's was another story respect mate 💯🥊🥊

[@brian3174]

He battered promoters son and being bully arsehole sacked n sent home your right biffo the bully who ended dying of aids

[@alantyrrell]

Ray did Binton get stabbed in the heart and get on a plane to Ireland? Or did he stab someone in the heart? Read it in a book somewhere I'm sure

[@malcolmroberts2467]

Bindion was stabbed and stabbed a geyser in a club then fucked of over Ireland that's true and the knife had nicked binding heart nearly died

[@adriantowe278]

Freddie foreman just look at the people he tuck out so i can't imagine how many he got away with not a man you want to upset

[@stephensharples4382]

You obviously have a massive grievance with bindon due to your fights in the past so your never gonna have a good word to say about him 🤷🏼

[@tygeeone]

I don't no why those guys would fight each other they should have stood together

[@mrkirkby2340]

Have a look at John binden live in red square ,funny

[@robharding5345]

Gangsters talk some crap ! its always been the same over generations. some are genuine, but most are deluded .

[@PaulHolman-sh5ts]

Fred foreman was the real McCoy

[@thesniper437]

Ronnie Oliffe 7stone wet knocked Hanlon spark out !!

[@enquirer2.0]

Top man Ronnie

[@dannythegreat453]

Stop it . Couldn’t knock the fluff off a cappuccino.

[@thesniper437]

Funny Ray how Ronnie Oliffe ko him with one punch !!

[@darrenmundee2706]

I think Fred spoke the truth about thing wot happened and frankly Fraser likes winding ppl up 😂😂😂

[@pompey69]

Yes another good story Ray, tell us about Jamie foreman, he comes across a genuine guy

[@lukejordan1318]

Tell him bruvva. Iv always wondered why he was always in the background. He nevo a gay and he'll cash in. Well said moosh❤😂

[@JamesSmith-ch8uj]

😅Ronnie Olive was there told it different

[@GS-in8zf]

have you ever heard of jackanory, they like a good old story,

[@stanpennycook5414]

Freddie Foreman didnt like John, he said to me that John was a grass which i didnt think he was.

[@alanburns3190]

John hanlon told me that Fred foreman and Ronnie olliffe gave him a good hiding in Fred's 211 club and rolled him up in a carpet and a put him in the boot of a car frightened the life out of him if he's still around ask him

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Noooo really johns been dead some years now I never Hurd that but if you say that is true who am I to say your lying johns fead

[@alanburns3190]

Sorry to hear he's passed on but it's 💯 per cent he thought it was funny when he was telling me but said it frightened the life out of him Great character rip 🙏 John

[@Onemoreround500]

Fred had the red sails as well

[@darrenmundee2706]

Yeah that’s true ronnie knight wanted to throw him in the Thames and fred said no he only a kid John was 19 at the time they were near 30 that’s why I no lot of wot is said is hear say yep spot on mate👍

[@denisecorney7632]

Johns not dead

[@keithrobertson5110]

People who talk or like to hear stories of so-called hard enough have no life.😂

[@garyfinn8772]

Not much up stairs 😅

[@Mans1910]

I had more respect for Fraser than Foreman. For example, he was very loyal to people such as the Krays and would never slag them off. Fraser criticised Foreman for doing a documentary spilling the beans on the Krays and the murders they were involved in. Fraser was saying that Foreman should not have spoken publicly about those crimes, whilst the Krays were still alive and should have waited until they had passed away. Foreman said in an interview with Bernard O’Mahoney that the plan was to do a hit on the Kray twins, if they hadn’t been sent to prison. I find that hard to believe though. From what I’ve heard, he was the one who would clean up the Krays’ dirty work, so if anything, they seemed to have more power over him than vice versa.

[@nobullshit8898]

Frazer was ok if the victim was tied up Albert reading smashed him to bits if all Frazer's stories were true he would have had to have been 200 years of age and foreman was an associate of the twins not big mates he was mates with Charlie kray that's who introduced him to them and if they hadn't all been nicked the meeting had already taken place to top the twins there were other people in the meeting that wanted them gone to watch the dvd order to kill

[@Mans1910]

@@nobullshit8898 I wasn’t saying whether Fraser’s stories were true or not, just stating the simple facts that Fraser was loyal to the Krays and that he criticised Foreman for talking about the crimes he and the Krays committed on TV, whilst they were still alive . A lot of people such as Roy Shaw, Richardsons, Krays, Ray Hill etc have all said that Fraser was one of the most game people out there and that his loyalty was second to none. Sorry, but just because a documentary says that something was planned doesn’t make it true. It’s funny how all this about a plan to take out the Krays only came to light after they were both long gone…

[@Dee-l2g]

I don't think Fred cared a fuck about the twins, he certainly wasn't scared of them and he was his own man. What difference would it have made what Fred said about the twins it's not like they were ever getting out, ok Reg did but only because he didn't have long to live. Fred was staunch and I would suggest whatever he said was true, what reason does he have to lie?

[@711honved]

The Kray's had no loyalty to anyone. They did the crimes but tried to get their friends & associates to do the time for them.

[@RobertMiller-ye9hm]

I read a lot about Fraser being full of shit . Let me tell you Fraser was a maniac. I was down in London in 60 s my uncle was a good friend of the Krays . I met Ronnie I was with my uncle. My memories of Ronnie that day he was an absolute gentleman. My uncle was anti Richardsons . My uncle liked Ronnie more than Regg . Fraser was mentioned often and he was completely crazy. These people today that slagg him off wouldn’t have down there . I just laugh when I see him get put down on KZbin.

[@RyanMclenaghan]

Anybody can read books or hear stories.. all citys.. right i can read the books and start doing podcasts like you, yeah you might of been round there turf lad, you say your west and west is tougher or gt better fighters.. whereabouts all the videos are about mclean roy shaw my favourite nt lenny, aparently warren had all the camcorders abd press on his side.. WELL roy shaw didnt have warren wrapped round him when he beat so called king of the gypos adams. So where is your vids ray. No disrespect my man i believe you were there.. pse show me evidence & i am a gd judge of character, you Admit when you gt beat smaahed all ovwr the gaff etc.. takes a real man to admit that.. anyway ray would love to see a bit of your fights, cause frank warren didnt have them all. So there must be some i know he is a multi millionaire now. But bk then he wasnt the only game in town to press te record button. Respect ray

[@RyanMclenaghan]

You sit on the fence a lot ray

[@patkearney9320]

Ray you spoke about James Moodie and it was BS I knew him as a child he was best man at my uncles wedding, so nothing you say is believable. I’m not in that life but James was a relative a political soldier who played hard. In Ireland we honoured his death you painted a second hand picture of a much loved man.

[@Peasant17cen]

This fella talks absolute poop.

[@juracalling2471]

FReddie Foreman was the muscle and had to be the brains for the weird twins.It got to the point he was going to 'iron them both out'( his words). But all this talk about 'guvnor' ? No. George Cornell could have handled both twins or Freddie Foreman.So could the Richardsons. That's where the real gangsters were.The Krays thought they were a Hollywood B movie.

[@TheSurferchild]

Ray I said yesterday that The Bully and FF had a situation. FF put in on John and he didn't want to know x

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

Respect thanks Mate 🥊🥊 your right

[@kennybyers7554]

More eastenders crap owwite😅

[@rabbitskinner]

How many fights do you think you've had Ray? Good podcast as usual mate.....

[@bangbangrayhill2218]

I heard from all other fighters thay had 2000 5000 hahaha you no over my life time maybe 200 or little bit more respect is a big thing thanks mate 💯🥊🥊

[@danrobinson572]

@@bangbangrayhill2218wish you had a photo of this bloke. Nothing is on google 😮

[@swilko673]

Johnny bindon sounds like a right nutter

[@beed6654]

Is that John John spokes I know of a John John Stanley he was in bartley gormons book king of the gypsies. He was a really good bare knuckle fighter who had the longest recorded fight with Tommy Taylor at the time. About an hour an a half no rounds. They had to call it a draw because Tommy's eye was hanging out and he wouldnt give up so they had to call it a draw. Anyway John John Stanley got into some bother with some gangsters and they shoved a pool cue threw his biceps so he could never fight again.

[@Richard-l2j7p]

The comments under liams video are hilarious 😂 Seems you're not very popular