John Higgins v Mark Williams 2000 World Championship SF

[@carlogambino1979]

20 years later they are still the best in the world. Unbelievable.

[@taochen2952]

That's because snooker is a sport that british invented, and the Sports Association is also in England.

[@johnp515]

@@taochen2952that’s irrelevant to the point he was making which was that it’s unbelievable that *these two particular* players are still amongst the best in the world 20 odd years later.

[@tonynaccarato4751]

Mark is a rare individual, John is fantastic, but I feel Mark has magic in him, not in snooker terms, but as a human being, he is absolutely amazing, cheers to both.

[@roddlecoddle]

I had to leave this match at 14-10 and never saw the end. Big Williams fan at the time as I still am. Easy to see why when you see how he played from 15-11. Thanks for putting this up. One more of his I've been dying to see was a clearance he made in his Crucible Curse match against Joe Swail in 2001, I think to pull back to 12-11. It was similar to but even better than Alex Higgins break in 82 against Jimmy, but wasn't remembered because Swail won the next frame. Keep an eye out for it because I'd love to see it again!

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

Same here. Kept checking the score on Ceefax though. Hard to believe it was 20 years ago.

[@parksyist]

Williams was just awesome around 2000-2004 so many incredible pots

[@wingzero2348]

I would even go back as far as 1998. 1999 was a great season also.

[@artr1059]

1998 - 2003

[@markwillcocks7701]

Yes 98-03 definatly

[@saiqanazam3263]

Who is here after 18 years later they meet in the final

[@MegaAndreyy]

Great stuff, if you can find more content with the young Mark Williams it's always welcome.

[@mjt_snooker1704]

this is one of his best matches of this period, imo. He knocked in so many difficult pots.

[@JK-wl5bx]

Clive Everton such a good commentator. Unfairly treated by the bbc

[@ianwilliamson2980]

Yes the best of them all in my opinion .

[@rayfinkle2805]

Yeah and we had to put up with Dennis full of shit Taylor

[@markwillcocks7701]

Clive was the best

[@nickycotton6137]

Nostalgia.. ❤ this channel/UploadS respected. Presenter's let alone Commentary Team ain't half changed eh. (RIP Willie Thorne :-(

[@AngrierGorilla]

Williams was really fearless... As Dennis said, did he know it was a WC semifinal? Amazing.

[@Maffchops]

Can see a few people wondering why frame 30 ended despite William's foul on the final black. The reason is that Williams won the frame when he potted the pink. The frame is over when the striker is over 7 points in front with just the black remaining. The striker can choose to play on if they want to finish a high break, make a psychological point to their opponent, play an exhibition shot, whatever it may be. But the frame ended as a contest when the pink sank. It's basically the opposite outcome of when someone wins a frame on the pink and leaves their cue on the table/returns to their chair/leaves the arena instead of playing a shot on the black.

[@vr120]

Thanks, was about to ask ;)

[@AngrierGorilla]

This is a very basic rule, unbelievable how many people don't know it.

[@XaviRonaldo0]

@@AngrierGorilla oh no. We wouldn't want new people learning the game would we

[@TheJohnCooperShow]

1:21:54 why doesn’t Higgins get back to table to pot black and win frame?

[@Neto808]

The frame automatically ends when the black ball is potted or fouled. Higgins was awarded 7 points and the frame came to an end. The only exception is if there's a tie in points, then there's a respotted black.

[@AngrierGorilla]

Ok you don't know the rules, but just using logic, if that was a possibility, in your opinion Williams would have played that type of shot?

[@ajs41]

@@Neto808 I didn't know the frame ended when a foul is committed with only the black on the table.

[@shellsbignumber2]

They both look so young.

[@seancyco9446]

What an EPIC come back...

[@da_great_mogul]

I remember watching the highlights on bbc and not knowing the end result. The fact that the highlights were scheduled to be on for so long and the fact that the match was progressing at such a slow speed made me fear that Williams had staged a huge comeback in that final session. I was sadly proved right! I'm a big fan of Williams now though. He was just a huge "Scot killer" back in those years and Hendry, followed by Higgins, were my favourite players.

[@charlesscottkelly]

Fantastic download cheers mate

[@kelvinsiu7931]

Very rare to see Higgins losing a match with such a big lead

[@rs-qt1qg]

10-4 up against Selby in the 2017 final, lost 18-15

[@parksyist]

I loved David Vine he was fab

[@nickycotton6137]

Amen/Bless.. Absolute Legend

[@AngrierGorilla]

Perfect host. Really competent, always with a touch of humour.

[@Gizo02]

I remember really wanting Williams to win in 2000 and the. Ronnie to win in 2001. I think a major potting miscalculation, resulted in him falling 6 frames behind in the final against Matthew Steven, but boy did he come roaring back in both the semi-final and final.

[@kjbennie9245]

Jus think 9 yrs prior to this, they were 15 yrs olds playing against each other for the 1st time in the 16 and under tournament....John apparently beat out Ronnie. Wow. Crazy

[@sdrtcacgnrjrc]

1:21:40 how come the in-off doesn't matter? The score at the end is 62 to 63 with the black still on the table. (I know there's some funny rules on the black, just not that familiar with them)

[@mjt_snooker1704]

first foul on the black ends the game.

[@sdrtcacgnrjrc]

@@mjt_snooker1704 thanks. I knew that rule from a black ball game position -- but it's then the other way round -- the person who fouls, they lose. Here, Williams has already won the frame, so I guess it's fair enough.

[@cddb5408]

@Tom You're thinking of Pool. Why do you think in Snooker they often don't even take a shot when it gets to the last black. You must've seen so many times a player pots in the pink then just puts their cue on the table or shakes hands or sits back in their seat if they're already up by 8 or more points.

[@ajs41]

@@cddb5408 I thought that was etiquette, because you can't lay a snooker with only one ball on the table, and the only way to win would be if the other player just completely failed to hit the black, and you assume a professional player wouldn't make that mistake. Pleased to be corrected.

[@12ANSHBHATIA]

He’s very underrated in comparison to John Higgins and Ronnie .

[@micheleauriemma9513]

Well, not really, both Higgins and O'Sullivan have great respect for him and so many fans too, great player anyway.

[@12ANSHBHATIA]

michele auriemma definitely too good a player

[@ItachiUchiha-nj9wx]

Not underrated but based on his calibre, he underachieved in the game.

[@rs-qt1qg]

@@ItachiUchiha-nj9wx yes he said himself Ronnie has cost him at least 2 world titles because he is that good

[@sugs1191]

Imo he was arguably better than Higgins. I used to think so. He just always struggled against Ronnie

[@ronniefoley500]

What is the Ronnie v Hendry match in the dying seconds of this video ?. It just cuts to it for a few seconds

[@MatthewOkot]

Williams was so hard to stop once he got on a roll, even when he was trailing.

[@詹鎮岳-y9b]

這時期的四大金剛最好看

[@stanleyharrison7031]

that break Williams made to go 16-15 was inspired

[@XaviRonaldo0]

It's amazing how we thought it was fine watching this quality of footage back in the day. Now we look back on it with today's digitally spoilt eyes the footage is horrible. Can't even tell the brown from the Reds on the long view of the table

[@andrewharman787]

Great stuff again! Do you have the 2003 final, Williams vs Doherty?

[@12ANSHBHATIA]

John Higgins was pissed AF .

[@BradRae188]

When did John Higgins grow old? Does anyone know? Please feel free to reply

[@parksyist]

Around the time he got mixed up with some Russian gentlemen

[@omegaman6494]

Overnight seemingly, around 2010

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

When he got older I suspect.

[@XaviRonaldo0]

Bigger question is when did he get fat. It's funny, he was so skinny and Ronnie was plump. Now it's the other way round

[@waynejackel2921]

Hello Soon the 2020 World Championship At Last. Can you upload these 3 Matches before during the Championship From your Classic Snooker Libruary 2003 Mark Williams v Stephen Hendry Masters Final 2003 1991 John Parrott v Steve Davis World Champs Semi Final 1988 Dougie Mountjoy v Stephen Hendry UK Final Much Appreciated Enjoy the Worlds 2020 Wayne

[@3ddad924]

This game can break you mentally sometimes

[@bramjanssens9996]

Is that Jan Verhaas?

[@mbucd]

yes

[@XaviRonaldo0]

@@mbucd wow, I was thinking that because of the height but he sounds and looks so different.

[@ajs41]

@@XaviRonaldo0 How does he sound different today?

[@XaviRonaldo0]

@@ajs41 just does

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

Mark Williams, a player that should have done a lot more than he did.

[@garethrichards9572]

To his credit, he is one of the best players of a very competitive couple of generations. When you consider the players around him during his career he has done very very well. Especially when you consider his lack of cue power (as stated by many including Williams)

[@wingzero2348]

@@garethrichards9572 After he did the four bbc events in 2003/04. A lot of people felt he lost a sort of hunger he had upto that point. Look at the 05 world snooker 147 he did...he literally played like he didn't care anymore, the motivation went. Look at his LG cup win over john higgins, he was super pumped for that one.

[@sugs1191]

his problem was he cannot beat Ronnie O'Sullivan. He was also around when Hendry was dominating during the 90s

[@ianwilliamson2980]

Who won final that year

[@JW-th4nn]

Mark Williams became World Champion this year. He went on to beat fellow Welsh compatriot Matthew Stevens 18-16 in a tight contest. Almost 21 years ago now...hard to believe!

[@ianwilliamson2980]

@@JW-th4nn thanks.yes he did very well to beat higgins who in my opinion is about the best all round player of all time.although ronnie and henry may be as good on top form higgins is very steady and always very hard to beat.

[@cddb5408]

@@ianwilliamson2980 No I don't think Drew Henry was quite at that level. I think Stephen Hendry would be a good shout though.

[@ianwilliamson2980]

@@cddb5408 lost me there

[@sugs1191]

Williams manager i believe had a personal dislike for Higgins. At the time both of these guys did not like each other at all. They represented rival camos. So there was a bit of needle there.

[@mbucd]

Higgins said not long ago that he was put badly off his game by Williams not shaking hands with him before breaking off.

[@bensummers178]

Do you know if he was referring to the handshake at start of final session?

[@mbucd]

@@bensummers178 Yes at the start of frame 25 with Higgins leading 14 10. This video doesn't show the start of that frame though.

[@bensummers178]

@@mbucd Thanks. Shame it's not included as it would be fascinating to see if it looked at all deliberate by Williams. Crazy that something so insignificant had such an impact.

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

That shouldn`t have had such an effect on his performance. Hendry faced Jimmy White in so many world finals and triumphed every time despite the whole crowed being hostile to him. Poor excuse in my opinion.

[@noureddineamine2941]

This john vergo is really a bad eyes

[@vcmc6299]

I'm curious about frame 30, Mark leads 63 to 55 as he lands on the black, he then try an exhibition shot and went in off, why can't John come back on the table? Should've been a black ball game aint it?

[@sdrtcacgnrjrc]

1:21:40

[@omegaman6494]

Black ball can't come back up. If you're 8 points up with only black left, then its frame over

[@rs-qt1qg]

only if the scores would have been tied. 62-63 is not a tie lol

[@cddb5408]

@Victor Chan Black is only worth 7 points and he was 8 pts clear and already won the frame by potting the pink and only 1 ball left on the table. The last shot wasn't an exhibition shot, it was a deliberate foul because he didn't need the points.

[@AngrierGorilla]

And in your opinion Williams would have been so dumb to play that shot? Learn the rules.

[@sockington1]

christ, where did they get that jockanese prat donnelly from - he isnt needed so GET RID OF HIM