John Kempf - Advancing Eco Agriculture

Excited to be joined by John Kempf of Advancing Eco Agriculture to talk about how plants can fend off pests and diseases and so much more.
John’s Site: advancingecoag.com/
John’s podcast: regenerativeagriculturepodcast.com/
Podcast

Support our work at www.patreon.com/farmerJesse
Events I mentioned: notillgrowers.com/events
Also check out our show sponsors:
Www.BCSamerica.com
and
www.farmersweb.com
Also big shoutout to Dawson Mehalko at Jubilant Field Farms for his support: jubilantfieldsf...

*Support our work*
Venmo: @notillgrowers

Patreon Group: www.patreon.com/FarmerJesse?a...

No Till Growers Site: notillgrowers.com

No Till Grower Instagram: / notillgrowers

Podcast Facebook: m. The-No-Till-Ma...

Follow us at roughdraftfarmstead.com

Farmer Jesse’s Facebook: / farmer.jesse.3511

Farmer Jesse's Instagram: / farmer_chef_jesse

RDF instagram: roughdraftf...

Farm Facebook: / roughdraftfarmstead

[@cchurch5037]

Wow - An amazing ability to succinctly present complex concepts - felt like a semester of university study condensed into an hour and a half 👍

[@notillgrowers]

He’s incredibly good at staying succint and tuning into the audience. It’s a special talent

[@johnnmartens3067]

So much wisdom I can’t get enough trying to understand soil God bless you guys for sharing your wisdom

[@bodilskumsrud520]

Great input!!An overall picture of the five most important ingredients in dealing with crops/plants.I'm enlightened and inspired!!Thank you,both!!

[@notillgrowers]

Awesome to hear!

[@Stilgar74]

John Kempf is a legend!

[@notillgrowers]

Agreed

[@drewblack749]

Why aren’t we hearing more about this? Manganese? Water quality! Shade cloth? A must!

[@johnandleighs.9193]

Check out the bionutrient food Association 2018 conference on KZbin. John Kempf, Steve Forester, and Dan Kiteridge . It will Amaze you !

[@huckp7773]

mountain

[@bmotik]

Mind = blown!

[@nurserygkikas9235]

The best episode so far!!! Thank u so much!!!

[@dewinovianty8107]

US/UK We in Asia like to make fermented liquid fertilizer. It can be made from various materials, for example, moringa, grass etc. Can liquid fertilizer spray like that increase the photosynthetic capacity of plants too?

[@johnandleighs.9193]

Fantastic interview Jessie !!! John Kemp has been one of my teachers for five years or more. Check out his talk at the 2018 bionutrient food Association he expanse on what nutrients will change plants immunity to defend themselves against disease and insect attack he gets very specific about it and it's very enlightening. Steve Forster of the BFA gave a talk at the same conference in titled Introduction to soil minerals using the same agronomy and lab Logan Labs that John was speaking about for water . Steve Forrester Uses same mineral balance that AEA.uses with their work. William Albright 's method.

[@notillgrowers]

Heck yeah. I love john’s work. I remember when I first found his podcast I was like “Oh these are my people!!”

[@nevillebrook4487]

Thanks for a great interview, I enjoy this series and also John Kempf’s series. It has however raised a couple of questions. 27:15 John said “if the veins are light coloured and lighter than the rest of the leaf that is an indicator of a subtle Manganese deficiency”. This is contrary to everything else I have been taught and read about symptoms of Manganese deficiency i.e. “deficiency of Mn causes areas BETWEEN leaf veins to become yellow (interveinal chlorosis), while green tissue still remains along most veins" At 27:55 John says “Manganese we could speak a bit about how to correct that as well”. I was hoping to hear this advice later in the podcast but it wasn’t given.

[@notillgrowers]

Oh man, I regret not getting into that with John. That’s on me. Easy to lose track when the interview is going sometimes. I would have to direct those questions to John, but I think he has done episodes of his own podcast on magnenese. You may just have to search back through. Also he goes through Logan labs. Would be worth contacting them for a soil sample.

[@johnandleighs.9193]

Go to John's AEA website and look up his webinar micronutrients in plant health and disease . In that he lays it all out including his reference materials.

[@harundal2767]

John talked about Manganese deficiency earlier, hidden hunger level before newly matured leaves became discolorated

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

There is tons of great information here, but I still don't think it makes sense to goes as far as to say plants can repel pests entirely. These things are interdependent on each other, plants will just be far better equipped to fight infestation and the environment will be more balanced to deal with pests if properly tended. Eg I don't think you can grow a milkweed so healthy that a monarch caterpillar won't want to touch it...

[@ronrasmussen1707]

This may not pertain to current topic but I have some thoughts and questions. How deep into the soil profile would you need to go to get past the weed seeds? Would soil from that depth be beneficial if added to compost in aiding seed to soil contact for germination issues?

[@ronrover6594]

Great interview! I tried to find out how to get manganese into the ground organically but I couldn't find anything. Any tipps how to e.g. add stuff to the compost pile in order to pump manganese availability later on?

[@notillgrowers]

I wish I did. I honestly don’t know. I would reach out to John--he may have tips.

[@ronrover6594]

@@notillgrowers Alright, then that is the way to go! Thanks!

[@hosoiarchives4858]

His company sells a product with manganese

[@DK6060]

Great interview, I learn a lot from both of you. As an aside - the tomato hornworm is a seriously large moth, not a parasitic wasp. Have a look for an image of the adult. Similar to Gang of Greenhorns point on monarchs and milkweed, can you really make a plant so robust ("healthy") that a species that has co-evolved with it will then be prevented from feeding on it?

[@nestor4895]

They were referring to parasitic wasps that targets tomato hornworm. I'm not sure about the answer to your question about "healthy" crops preventing all predation... The topic is pretty broad and leads me to other questions I can't answer lol.

[@ardenthebibliophile]

Two very minor critiques. At one point John states light can be charged. This is not the case; it can be polarized but that's not exactly the same. He doesn't derive any conclusions from that so perhaps he mis spoke. Second is manganese isn't consumed during photosynthesis per se. It doesn't take 1Mn to do a turnover of water (or any formal ratio). Rather, photosynthesis is destructive to the chemical components that perform photosynthesis (photosystem 2). After a few turnovers (I think 20 or so) it breaks and the plant will re-form from available manganese.

[@drewblack749]

My only question...where does the animal component come in to regenerative agriculture?

[@johnandleighs.9193]

Animal inputs Supply lot of the biology in the soil to break down the minerals to feed the plants with and the plants trade chlorophyll, simple sugars back to the biology for the nutrients. There are now a lot of biological inoculants available to feed your soil with.

[@notillgrowers]

Yeah animals are great but can be really tough on gardens, so preferably for us we will sometimes graze garden space in the winter, but mostly we use animal manures in our compost piles to get that biology. Then compost teas and extracts.

[@drewblack749]

John and Leigh S. I am not familiar with those inoculants. Can you direct me to a purchase point? 😊 thanks

[@johnandleighs.9193]

The information can be quite involved. I would be happy to point you in the right direction. One of the founders of mineral balancing is William Albrecht back in the 1930 thru the 60's. He made a short film called The other side of the fence . I think it was put on KZbin. Today a good entry-level video would be introduction to soil minerals by Steve Forester of The Bionutrient food Association. This will lay a good foundation for further study. Hope you take the time to check this out. If you follow up on this you will learn to grow true nutrition dense foods. FOOD AS MEDICINE. Let me know if you have any questions. [e-mail]

[@drewblack749]

John and Leigh S. You are generous with this information. I will pursue your suggestions and I thank you.