John Lennons Parents - The Impact of Aunt Mimi and Uncle George

[@chequeando100]

El análisis de la foto de John con sus tíos Mimi y George es muy emocionante. Gracias David por esa entrevista a Paul.

[@BeliaLastes]

Mother you had me, but I never had youuu,.. RIP Julia ,Aunt Mimi, Uncle George and John ❤️🌹🙏🕊️

[@CupidStunt72]

I was in Liverpool in August & went to visit John's mum's grave, quite the experience. Julia's grave is very close to John Dykins grave. Defo worth the trip !

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

It is in a beautiful spot isn't it?

[@CupidStunt72]

My Dad & I count believe the size of the place, it is huge. Yes, that spot right at the end is a lovely place. We stood there wondering how many times Lennon had been in the same spot

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

@@CupidStunt72 He never recovered from losing his mum, and no surprise. She had such an influence on his life.

[@CupidStunt72]

@@BrightmoonLiverpool yes, he was never the same after Julia died. It's a she she never got to see the success John had.

[@polytheneprentiss1534]

Great historical perspective & insight, thanks! Def going to visit George & Mimi’s grave someday. 🥺

[@joanmatchett8100]

Mimi was cremated in Poole in Dorset were she lived .

[@agarfan]

Fantastic! I love stories of Beatles parents and family!

[@seanhallahan14]

Excellent conversation! Thank you. Sean

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

Our pleasure!

[@paulclinton5900]

Brilliant job. Nice bright day. Great interview and insights, keep these coming...!

[@MrAschiff]

Eight Days A Week is not a Ringoism. Paul got the idea from one of his drivers who said, after Paul asked how he was doing, working eight days a week.

[@ohmeowzer1]

I,loved this ty

[@ADAMSIXTIES]

Great discussion! But Ringo was the only one who was really working class. The others were pretty much middle class; John being a little higher up on the economic latter.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

George and Paul were both working class too, especially where they were born. Paul's mum moved them to Forthlin Road when Paul was about 13, which was a step up to a lower-middle-class area. George's family were always working-class. John, as you say, was definitely brought up middle-class, yet wrote Working Class Hero. A sense of humour!!!

[@ADAMSIXTIES]

The lyrics of WCH are so contradictory. I wonder if it was intentional.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

@S. Adam Bernstein If you look at the lyrics, John never claims to be a WCH, but it is something to be. In one interview he claimed to be Upper Working Class. That was stretching it! Woolton was and is middle-class!

[@Steve-Richter]

Big question is what becomes of George and even Paul if they never met John.

[@jesusislukeskywalker4294]

i will get to Liverpool 1 day 🙏

[@garypeach8945]

Dave where's your beard!!?? Great video again BTW. 😀

[@Liddypool]

That was filmed back in 2017!

[@michaeldonaghey]

251 Menlove Ave was modest compared to Stuart's and Pete's homes.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

+michael donaghey The Best house dwarfed even Brian Epstein's house! It is huge.

[@michaeldonaghey]

@@BrightmoonLiverpool Stuart's house dwarfed them all, it's now Sefton Park Hotel. I don't know Brian's address.

[@allenf.5907]

More perspective explaining who he was as a young man coming through the losses. And soon to be the finds: the other Beatles.

[@SouthernNurseAndTheLaw]

Aunt Mimi and Uncle George had no children. I read a long time ago about Aunt Mimi living in an assisted type living home at the end of her life . Where it was discovered by her medical,caregivers that she was indeed a virgin still. Might explain some of her emotional make up, her lack of warmth. Her seeming inability to form close, caring relationships. By all accounts she was angry at Julia because of her “improper relationships “ with men. I’ve also read it was Mimi that pushed for John to be taken from Julia. Aunt Mimi was a complex woman indeed. I believe she did care for John in her way. Without her influence there may have been no Beatles as such. Musicians are artists that depend on , unfortunately, the negatives from their lives to influence their creative selves.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

It was a strange relationship between John and Mimi. They loved each other, no doubt. Mimi wasn't maternal or affectionate. However, she didn't have John removed from Julia, as that was Pop Stanley - Mimi and Julia's father. He insisted that Mimi take John to live with her and George. Mimi gave everything up to care for John and gave him the stability he needed. It was from his base at Mendips that John met Ivan, Pete and Nigel, then Rod, Eric and Colin and then formed the Quarrymen. Everything happens for a reason.

[@strawberryfields1149]

Where it was discovered by her medical,caregivers that she was indeed a virgin still. ...... yeah right, thats clearly fact then.

[@GJ1607.]

According to johns sisters book, mimi was in the home john bought her in dorset to the day died. Also, mimi was in a relationship with michael fishwick, the lodger that lived in mendips it's in julia bairds book. Imagine this: it's a good read

[@SouthernNurseAndTheLaw]

@@BrightmoonLiverpool Mimi “gave up everything to take John” in. What exactly was “everything” ?

[@Garry_jad]

…..and it was nothing to do with its title of Paul and John meeting.

[@zapdunga12]

Obviously it was uncle George that took the photo of John and Mimi and Mimi who took the photo of John and George😊

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

Yes. Isn't the body language interesting?

[@jamesmilton8765]

In 1960 teenage guys all wore suits when they went out for the night, bumfreezer jackets and winkle picker shoes. Hoodies were unknown.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

+James Milton Quite the fashion statement!

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

speak for yourself! That's what Teddy Boys wore, the street thugs of the day. Yeah, John was a bit of a Teddy Boy for a while, but it didn't last long. As for hoodies, they didn't come in until decades later, when security cameras became ubiquitous.

[@bucksdiaryfan]

If Paul would not have gone to the Church picnic (or whatever its called in England), what is the likelihood the two of them would have eventually come across each other after that? Or was that a chance meeting that was unlikely to occur at a different venue?

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

Paul had seen John at the bus stop near him, and was very wary of him. They went to different schools, had different groups of friends and lived in different suburbs. Without a common friend in Ivan, it is highly unlikely they would have met. So we all owe Ivan a huge thank you!

[@bucksdiaryfan]

I find it quite touching that his Aunt Mimi was willing to raise him when his mom was a miscreant and his father was a vagabond and a n'er-do-well. She must have known she would have her hands full when he came of age.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

If that was true, I would agree, but sadly, it isn't. Alf was on Merchant ships dodging U-boats in the Atlantic, before John rejected him. Mimi never volunteered to take John either. John was taken away by social services on the instruction of Julia's father, who then told Mimi that as she had no children, she was taking John to live with her. She didn't like children, which is why she had none. Although reluctant, and to be fair to Mimi and George, they gave up everything to look after John. Julia was distraught and depressed and desperately wanted John, but a court order made Mimi and George John's guardians. Not quite the story Mimi told, but that is the facts. Not saying Alf and Julia were perfect parents, because they weren't, but the truth has been muddied over the years. This all came out when I was the historian for Looking for Lennon, working with those who knew John best, including his family.

[@ohmeowzer1]

Isn’t it interesting how fate brought them together?

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

+B G Definitely is. So many coincidences in the story

[@bucksdiaryfan]

I love the irony that the Beatles cut their teeth in Germany but when they were babies the Germans were trying to kill them with bombs.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

It was a huge part of their childhood, and Hamburg was the most devastated German city, having a third of it wiped out and 40,000 killed. And then the Brits invaded with music. A strange twist in the story.

[@cynthiapopov229]

Dale and i cindy cynthia dont have family in tucson not related to a patty.

[@samuelburleigh1895]

Could easily be Victorian times. Luckily this was very much a cusp of changing society.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

Mimi's dad was the last of the Victorian parents, so he influenced his daughters very much.

[@69realstar2]

Aunt mimi wasnt perfect but loved john as mother love a son...

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

They did love each other in their own ways.

[@cynthiapopov229]

They keep lying in tucson..no family members of ours.

[@SouthernNurseAndTheLaw]

John didn’t have the Liverpool accent because Aunt Mimi hated/despised the Liverpool accent Mimi didn’t have it. I’m sure Uncle George didn’t either. Without a doubt she raised John to speak differently.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

They didn't have the Liverpool accent as Woolton was still isolated from the rest of the city and had a more Lancastrian accent. The other Quarrymen from Woolton don't have a strong Liverpool accent either.

[@strawberryfields1149]

when you listen to Mimi in the 81 interview she had a Liverpool accent. suppressed a little but unmistakeable. Paul's accent changed in 1967 along with his ears, eyes, nose and hair. he also started wearing his belt the other way around!

[@Steve-Richter]

The sad thing about the Beatles is tension and I guess competitiveness between the three. John rarely says good things about Paul’s inventiveness. And both John and Paul seemed dismissive of George as a songwriter.

[@ohmeowzer1]

Is George and Mimi buried in the same cemetery as Eleanor Rigby ?

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

+B G No, Mimi was buried down south near Poole where she lived in the house John bought for her. George is in his family's grave at St Peter's

[@helmutsecke3529]

'Are'

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

i don't buy the apocryphal story of "rattle your --ing jewelry" for the simple reason that John was a poet, with a poet's sense of meter, and stuffing an extra two syllables in the middle would spoil the rhythm of the stanza and ruin its punch. So, no, he wouldn't even have considered it.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

But if you knew Lennon the rebel, it was a possibility. But I doubt he ever was going to say it, just a good wind up before the show.

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

@@BrightmoonLiverpool he did say "rattle your jewelry" - i heard him say it, live on tv - and it got a good laugh. It's the storyteller's addition of an i don't buy. That wasn't his style.

[@Garry_jad]

That’s 14 minutes of my life I won’t get back. How much rubbish were these 2 chatting. Some things were right the rest came accross as speculation when in fact it’s all there to read and find out what happens.

[@BrightmoonLiverpool]

Sorry you didn't enjoy it.