John MacArthur Q&A: What is the Lordship salvation?

[@Fehrfamilyhomestead]

[8]For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it(eternal life) is the gift of God: [9] not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8‭-‬9 KJV The grace of God is not cheap, it cost God the precious blood of his only Son. We are saved by believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47 KJV

[@HiThereHeyThere]

Very important points Pastor John makes. At salvation Christ is on the throne of your life. You recieved the righteousness of Christ and are led by God as you follow Christ. If you are a Christ follower he IS Lord over your life... immediately. Scripture is very clear about this. Now as far as killing sin in your life that is part of sanctification. And through the sanctification process (over your lifetime) you are becoming more like Christ (whom you follow). You are conquering sins and becoming more righteous and holy as God is holy. As Christ is holy. So the idea or notion of a carnal Christian is nonsense. You are simply growing in holiness and make mistakes along the way. Just as a baby learning to walk "falls down". He gets back up and keeps growing into adulthood. If you are not, and you are still in the world... then you are simply a false convert as youve never been converted by God. But if you can see the radical transformation, you hate sin, and now want to live righteously and are progressing in that direction then it shows fruit of salvation. People ask what is righteousness. God is perfect. His moral law reflects his unchanging character and nature. We are to be growing in reflecting moral perfection. It is progressive growth for us humans who have been born again, but we are, in all the areas of moral character, growing. There is growth and growth and growth. This is why reading and applying the Scriptures is also important daily because we grow in faith but also obey what we read. If we love and follow Christ then we will obey our King. He is our Lord.

[@charlesrobert6211]

The thief on the cross said, Lord when you come into your kingdom remember me.

[@AllSven]

I can’t believe anyone would think that intellectual assent to the facts about Christ means you’re saved - scary that someone would be that deceived.

[@dynaordie8083]

Outstanding clarity every time Pastor John speaks

[@PietStassenAdamastor]

Those who deny the Lordship of Christ should revisit Revelation Chapter 22.

[@ianrena1]

You will know them by their fruit.

[@wib50]

Mathew 7. You will know whom by thier fruit,? And what is the " fruit" speaking of??

[@MrJeffreyDR]

Context context context. Jesus is speaking about false teachers, isn’t he?

[@Psalm119-50]

Will not a true Christian as well bear fruits of true salvation? ​@@MrJeffreyDR

[@jimkraft9445]

@@Psalm119-50 Amen. The fruit is what they preach. Salvation by grace excludes works. Romans 11;6. John 3;18. Wolves preach a false gospel of works for the free gift. IF we add one work to grace we have perverted the gospel of grace and made it by works. Matthew 7:21-23. Many will come to me on that day and boast in all their good works. But, Jesus says, I NEVER KNEW YOU. Why? They trusted in what they did instead of what Jesus did for us. John 6:40, and John 6;29. Without the Spirit there is no salvation. Romans 8:9. With the Spirit, (Ephesians 1:13-14) we have eternal life. Ephesians 4:30. John 10:28-29. Hebrews 13:5. For He hath said, I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU.

[@TimothyMB]

@@MrJeffreyDR Yes Jesus is! The Calvinist like to us that verses to explain how someone knows they are saved and that is the problem with Calvin's unbiblical teaching. Context kills Calvinism.

[@seniorscientist590]

Lord doesn't mean Jesus' diety? Where in scripture does it say to repent of sin to he saved? Yes, people can believe Jesus died on cross, etc. and not be saved but has nothing to do with repenting of sin, but rather they are those who are convinced by the evidence all those things but still want nothing to do with Jesus. They still reject him. An example is in scripture where there were those who believed it was true but desired the praise of man and refused to put their faith in Jesus. He's not going to force Himself on anyone. A more modern example would be the late atheist richard dwakins (spell). Heard him say once that he's not an atheist because the evidence on his side is overwhelming, but because even if God were true he still wouldn't believe because he hates Him. That's exactly why confession with the mouth, romans 10:9-10 is an acceptance of the free gift of salvation. For it says if one believes in their heart Jesus died on cross for your sin, buried and rose from the dead, and confesses with their mouth Jesus is Lord (God, yehovah, Adonai, almighty creator) then they are saved. We believe in our hearts and those things and Jesus' not only is payment for our sin, but He clothes us in His righteousness! Repenting of sin is heretical and here's why this is so important. 1) These people have redefined repent which biblically always means a change of mind (metanoia, or meta=change as in metamorphosis, noia=mind), no work involved. 2) Repenting of sin contradicts gospel in bible. For gospel (john 3:16, romans 10:9-10, 1 cor. 15:1-4, elsewhere) is first believing Jesus died on the cross FOR YOUR SIN. A false gospel, the devil, says you have to turn from your sin. In otherwords, you come to cross sinless. They're completely contrary. MacArthur even contradicts himself when he said you have to confess your sin, then turn from sin. Well, which is it? Bottom line is nobody can turn from sin. Greater men have tried and all failed. God's standard is way to high. Heck, Adam and Eve couldnt even obey one command. Hence our need of a savior! Jesus is offering to take the yoke of your sin and give you His yoke of grace which He purchased through His death, burial and resurrection. All sin has been dealt with. These wolves, however, want you to keep you enslaved and yoked to sin, keep you in their pews and control you. MacArthur, Billy Graham, Paul, King David or any other person could never turn from their sin before or after they were saved. 3) This false gospel means you can lose your salvation of at very least never know you're saved. And of there is one work needed for salvation, whether that's turning from sin (Impossible. Unquantifiable. Undefinable) or even as simple as not eating an apple on a specific tree, and not solely by believing in Jesus and His finished work, then news flash, nobody in history of all humanity is nor ever will be saved for all fall short of the glory of God, all our works are filthy rags to the Lord and 1 john clearly states to the already saved believer (thats who he is writing to) that if we claim we have no sin (as MacArthur claims to have turned from of his sin) then the truth is not in us and we make God out to be a liar. Galatians 3:3 "Are you so foolish (MacArthur)? Having begun in the spirit (given when we believe in Jesus), are you now made perfect in the flesh (thinking you have to turn from your sin, be good person or doing something in the flesh like living a certain way, etc.)?" Romans 10:10 KJV [10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

[@jimkraft9445]

Romans 9:10 is for the Jews who rejected Jesus as their Messiah. We are save by a one time faith alone in Jesus alone, apart from any works. Romans 4;5-8. Romans 3:26-28. First John 5:13. John 6:40, and John 6;29.

[@RonAllenTaylor]

“Historically” John?

[@wib50]

This misrepresents the free grace position. We absolutely do not deny that Christ is Lord. No one could ever be saved if he wasn't already Lord. Also we don't say just believe some facts. It's a personall trust in Christ as Lord and savior, wich demons do not have.

[@meta4282]

The risk you run is that you place the power of salvation in the hands of the person making the choice to simply believe. Im not saying you're not saved, but it risks giving the idea to young believers or newcomers that they only need to say they believe in JC and then they are saved, which is not Biblical.

[@samsacco6979]

@@meta4282no one in Free Grace believes you only need to “say you believe”. Again…a “straw man”. No one says you need to “raise a hand, walk an aisle, pray a prayer, etc.” You actually have to believe in Him!

[@frankmichaud9107]

Yet like you,demons James 2:19 Beleive and know Jesus is Lord 😮. Every knee will bow and mouth confess in the end,even easy believisim beleivers 😂. Happy trails. Remember John the Baptist pulled no punches. Publican went home justified because he beat on his chest knowing his wretched condition and submitted and went home justified. Happy trails.

[@samsacco6979]

He misrepresents the other side constantly. Easy to create “straw men” and knock them down.

[@SoDamnMetal]

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; *but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.* 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. What is the will of the father? John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, *that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life* : and I will raise him up at the last day. Open your eyes Johnny, and anyone that believes your heresy. Only Jesus Christs righteousness counts for salvation, your filthy rags mean nothing.

[@charlesrobert6211]

We should be careful how we judge others, only the blood of Christ can wash away our sins.

[@StarAccount-km1rt]

It is much easier to understand what Lordship Calvinist salvation is with this bed time story that John MacArthur endorses. Little Johnny, God has predestined the minority of people to be saved and go to heaven forever, and He has predestined the majority of people to be eternally damned and burn in the fires of hell. We have no idea, little Johnny, if God has predestined you to be forever damned or forever saved. We love you, little Johnny, but we accept the fact that God might not love you, and that He may have plans to send you to hell for your future sins. If you do find yourself one day burning in hell because He hasn’t elected to save you, just remember that we will always love you, even if God hates you. Take comfort knowing that we are not like God. We will be in heaven forever only because we were unconditionally chosen for salvation before we were born. That would be the only reason that we won’t be in hell with you if you find yourself there. It won’t be because of anything we did. So also take comfort in knowing that. It may not seem fair, but who are we to judge God? So again, if you find yourself in hell, remember that we will always love you as we forever worship the God who loved us but who hated you, the God who sent His Son to die for us but not for you. Please, we ask, don’t let it bother you-if you find yourself in hell-that we love the God who hated you and showed you no mercy. We must accept the fact that God is sovereign, and He does what He pleases. We teach this to your children and grandchildren! Funny how we see no spiritual progress over the ensuing years of their lives. They seem to feel more and more like Pinocchio with Calvi-god (Gesepo) pulling their puppet strings. They have no assurance, no joy just fear. We teach them to sing songs like this to comfort them to no avail! When they sing it ,they are so humbled by it, that it's all that you can do to keep from bursting with pride, which is the glue that keeps them together. Yet I fear they are just turning into mindless Robots. "Jesus loves me, this I know. As for you, I don't think so. Only some to Him belong. We are right and you are wrong. Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! Aren't you happy and proud that God chose us for heaven and decided not to fry us in Hell like everyone else! 'Eenie Meenie Miney Moe, this one goes to heaven off to hell another one goes!' But then again, I hope this isn't evanescent grace that I'm walking in and instead I'm actually deceived and one of the reprobates that He created to burn as a candle for His glory in Hell forever."

[@jimkraft9445]

Romans 6:23. For the penalty for sin is death, physical death, BUT, the GIFT of God is eternal live, through Jesus finished work on the cross plus nothing. Not faith, and not a reward for good behavior, but a free GIFT. Romans 3;26-28. For He is the JUST and the JUSTIFIER of them that BELIEVE in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? By the law of works? Nay, but by the law of FAITH. Therefore we conclude a man is JUSTIFIED by FAITH apart from the deeds of the law, for by the law shall no flesh be justified. Romans 5:19-21. Where sin abounds, GRACE much more abounds. Colossians 2:13. He has forgiven us ALL trespasses. First John 1:8. IF we say we have no sin, we are DECEIVED and the TRUTH is not in us. Galatians 2:21. I do not pervert the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ died for nothing. Romans 11:6. To add to grace is to pervert the gospel of GRACE. Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. Romans 4:5. Faith apart from any works. The gospel we believe and defend. First Corinthians 15:1-4. That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. Galatians 1:6-9. Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. ANATHAMA. First John 2:2. And he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. BUT, John 3;18. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE, (faith alone) on the name of the Son of God, THAT YE MAY KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Second Corinthians 9:15. Thanks be to God for His UNSPEAKABLE GIFT, ETERNAL LIFE. Lordship salvation is a counterfeit gospel of works. Not faith alone apart from any works. Romans 4:5-8. Acts 16:31 PERIOD. Salvation, eternal life is a free gift apart from any works. Best Amazing Grace you will ever hear. Based on Romans 11:6, Romans 4:5, Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 6:23, Ephesians 1;13-14, Ephesians 4:30, and John 6:47. A one time faith alone apart from any works. ALL grace, No works. Romans 11:6. You-tube, Dan Vasc. AMAZING GRACE.