John Piper: The Challenge of Relativism

[@michelferreira333]

These videos are VERY good. Clear, on point, nice oratory. Talking about MAKING SENSE and REASONING is so important and relevant to these days.

[@KeithThompson52]

Love my brother Piper!! Learned alot from this sermon.

[@deankrause8029]

Wow just wow thank you Dr. piper that was brilliant may God bless you

[@mtfrosty2cor471]

Just went back to school after 10 years to get a degree in English in secondary ed. First semester back and I can't stress enough the danger concealed in this ideology. Piper is dead on and his anger is COMPLETELY relatable. I thank the Lord for His word and His truth every week because it keeps my head on straight. If I'd continued with this degree with where I was spiritually right out of high school... can't imagine what I'd be teaching my poor students right now. Relativists are some of the most clever, eloquent people you will come across. And they're stuck. Caught in the devil's snare. Pray for them.

[@principleswise9749]

*You said it perfectly right!*

[@joelpelton7027]

Dr. Piper, great message! Timely!

[@InChrist777]

There is Truth!!!! Relativism will not stand!!! It will crumble like a deck of cards!!! The Chosen

[@HoxtonLive]

I once tried to evangelize a relativist, and in broad daylight, 10 in the morning, he would insist it is night. That is lack of sound rationality and as bible says "Their thinking became worthless."

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

Sort of like saying the objective Bible both affirms and denies homosexuality? Piper is an irrationalist.

[@sumitedla2021]

Wonderful sermon by Dr piper

[@ruewatson2654]

GOD'S WORD IS TRUTH!!

[@TheWordMercy82]

We who are not under law but under grace do NOT put ourselves under the lawlessness of the message of the sons of destruction.

[@mariainesperezperez2078]

Dr. Jhon Piper. My best regards para usted querido profesor. Luchando en la trinchera, en un lugar llamado Santiago de Chile. Hechos aconteciendo: Esconden a mi hija en la Cisterna rota corazón. Calle santa Eliza. Iglesia presbiteriana. Thank for all your gift of public web Desiring God.

[@backpressure123]

He nailed it

[@danceoutnow]

Relativism, in the most basic sense, is at its heart an attempt to justify unethical, immoral, or perversion of the natural behaviors, laws, and structures according to personal desire. It falls apart at the first volley, which often leads to utter rage from the poor soul attempting to cling to it

[@jamesratliff2801]

This is a wonderful take on relativism relative to the bible.

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

Piper's view of the Bible is itself relativism.

[@principleswise9749]

@@ThomasCranmer1959 *But it's like indoctrination. We're all indoctrinated and will always be.* The difference and problem is if the doctrine is sane and sound within the absolute truth from God, or subjective relative half truth from the world.

[@lovely_time1771]

I want to know how this is relative to the gospel

[@DavidFuentes123]

That’s the law of comparables not relative, John MacArthur is not my relative in the flesh, we are adoptive family. (Of course am kidding) but comparable to me in stature, maybe; but in knowledge of Theology we are close to Incomparable, much less relativistic!

[@TheWordMercy82]

The bloodline is the Island of Relevancy NOT relativism!

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

I can't stand John Piper. He needs to study logic. The Bible is propositional revelation and God is Logic. John 1:1. There is no way anyone can read the objective word of God in the Holy Scriptures and come to the conclusion that homosexual activity between two males or between two females is not a sin. Piper's view would make the Bible an objective and irrational book. Does God breathe out lies and contradictions? I think not. Leviticus 18:22.

[@Vuyisile-bw7ux]

That is how I heard that, John P was in the introduction of this vid presentation , giving an example of how someone may say something like that , and stated it as how two people may have diametrically opposed viewpoints on the issue ...one saying it's acceptable another saying the bible says it's not acceptable. According to relativists, if there was no measurable and objective criteria, both could stand to be right. John P did not say what you say, the bible is clear in scriptures in the bible about that issue on of the two males given here as an example.

[@ThomasCranmer1959]

@@Vuyisile-bw7ux Piper equivocates all the time. Either there is a universal and objective moral law of God, or the truth changes from one person to the next. Which is it?

[@sjurdurkjv]

Here is something absolute: Gods word is kjv. All others are relativistic.

[@TKOJOJO]

Which KJV Bible?

[@codyvandal2860]

You realize of course that is was originally written in Hebrew? Why is it you think the 16th century English translation is implicitly more authoritative? Just curious

[@saved6655]

Which kjv Bible?

[@DD-ld1xq]

And the nation of "Israel" refers to the satanic khazar imposters and not the Church of Christ, right?