John Salley on Derrick Rose Saying PED Use in the NBA is "Huge" (Part 20)

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In this clip, John Salley opened up about his thoughts on athletes taking steroids, and John admitted that he doesn't consider it cheating. He explained that steroids help with recovery and strength, but he adds that it doesn't increase overall talent in an athlete. John went on to speak about getting treatments done in Germany to help with healing his joints, which you can hear more about above.

[@97bonez]

John Salley is slowly morphing into JB Smoove.

[@salman13]

for a long time , i thought they were the same guy lol

[@scubasteve9566]

Lmao.

[@TheJcr14]

@@salman13 just finding out they arent

[@nehemiahflorence7133]

💀💀💀😭😅

[@sammythegreat879]

Lmao

[@Hooda18th007]

Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer way before those steroids allegations💯

[@DadefreshXL]

40+ homeruns and 40+ stollen base season average.

[@kevincallaghan5519]

Facts

[@Hooda18th007]

@@DadefreshXL facts!

[@TA-ht4jo]

Exactly

[@jaymtl79]

I hate Bonds but I his defense most of MLB was roided up. If pitchers are jacked up then why not the position players.

[@colbygill940]

John salley looked around like yea they ain’t catch me 🤣🤣

[@navigatingel6104]

I'm late on this but I question how feasible it is to play a professional sport without PEDs and still be healthy. If nothing else you'll need them for recovery. The TV schedule that sports demands is really unnatural.

[@mothegamer7515]

You right!!!

[@jrg5315]

PED means performance enhancing. There are many many other things you could take for recovery instead of altering your own hormone levels. I don’t believe someone like Mayweather ever took PEDs and look at his career.

[@dillonkayser4215]

You don’t need PED’s in baseball for ‘recovery’ there’s 4 or 5 at bats. Maybe 4 fielding attempts. No need. They definitely will make you hit the ball harder and further though.

[@ActionJacksonForever]

Bingo!

[@jeffsmith8065]

@@jrg5315 floyd didn't take hits

[@luisvigo3777]

Salley’s face tells me he knows what’s up. He’s smirking and trying to not speak out of line lol

[@kermitfrog593]

Ha, true

[@pedrogates3189]

He does that all the time when he’s giving a half ass answer lol

[@richardtaylor6341]

Yea, he ain't Jose...

[@mattreyes4803]

@@richardtaylor6341 Cause he ain't broke like Jose

[@Watson84200]

He's full of shit

[@krystalk8105]

Here goes Glad telling someone who’s actually done it or doing it how to do something

[@MrLavellGriffin]

😆😆😆😆 Glad

[@masonldn8647]

John Salley sounds ignorant for someone that played sports ...he is clearly trying to protect something . Steroids have massive side effects , just look at people that do them, you can tell the negative effects .

[@ThejeffJr8]

This is more like two men having a conversation

[@warnerokereke4259]

😂

[@franciscolucianochaparro7813]

Sauerkraut lol

[@user-wc4ie5up1u]

PEDs improve reflex, strength, speed, and healing time. All of those factors will improve your performance as an athlete and allow you to perform better at your respective sport.

[@kayodeseriki4772]

I think that's why they're called Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs)

[@champbay1277]

They won’t make you or me better at any sport

[@ctrain3621]

They don’t make you more skilled at the sport

[@NoMoreLPCPP-NPA]

​​@@champbay1277 Having strength and stamina makes everyone better. If you play 40+mins in the NBA and still run and jump like in the 1st quarter then you're definitely better.

[@babybison2881]

@@ctrain3621 tell that to a boxer or an MMA fighter. If it didn't make you better, they wouldn't take it. They're enhancements not inhibitors.

[@michaelnorris6168]

Thank you so much John for exposing the hypocrisy of the extreme money making empire of the sport’s world. Thank you so much John!!!!!!

[@TheCaliiBoi]

Did anybody catch how vlad just pronounced hedo turkoglu name im crying

[@hbmfproductionstudios_Sav]

Bruh😂😂

[@chrismena832TX]

Lol riiight...for Glad being such a culture vulture, he sure dont know shiiit bout the NBA...

[@earvinwilloughby]

😂😂😂😂

[@chuckplaysgames7925]

@@chrismena832TX you super stupid... culture culture of what? What culture?!

[@joshthrasher]

Lmfaoo I didn’t even realize he was trying to say Hedo’s name 🤣🤣 vlad knows nothing about basketball or the nba but he tries to make u think he does

[@franklynmaldonadogor2]

This dude pretty much acknowledged the use and knows a lot more. Crazy

[@TheJayday25]

Of course anyone that is 30 plus years old. BRON still GOAT... Even with Peds

[@franklynmaldonadogor2]

@@TheJayday25 how u the GOAT getting outplayed by a 6th man in a finals series???

[@energysurgefitness1738]

The use starts In college it's too competitive. And money is on the line if they get to the NBA

[@kanajingly8957]

@@TheJayday25 Unfortunately that may lead to a possible premature death for Lebron. I'd rather play clean than increased my risk of developing cancer.

[@sasssports9664]

They were so scared of Barry Bonds that they used to walk him with bases loaded in playoff games. Insane!✔

[@vagoeart1262]

Yep

[@bartier861]

Sh!t, better than a grand slam

[@BenBen-kh1dm]

Yep that's rite

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

lit ep.

[@alazo1n7]

I love when vlad tries to use Salley to validate his beliefs and Salley just lets him know he not his yes man. It’s been happening to him with Micheal Jai as well 🤣😂

[@andrewilliams9921]

That's ok,cuz it makes for a better interview who wants to watch a kiss ass? Reason why C tha God and Joe Budden are popular.

[@onelyfemusic6213]

Yeah but he's just wrong about most things

[@miyagifatghost2684]

When u a friend you can do that!! Both those men appreciate Vlad but don't need him🤷🏿‍♂️

[@rickjames4786]

John sally is an idiot

[@bigdtheog572]

Yeah but Salley is stupid and is a blind follower

[@cassiussimpson2307]

The way Vlad pronounced Hedo Turkoglu has me dying lol

[@christopherduffey3703]

Bro he butchered his name to the point I didn’t even know he was tryna pronounce hedo turkoglo

[@cortezh6138]

@@christopherduffey3703 😂😂

[@nicobanks7367]

Only the real hoopers caught this

[@bigjigg5672]

This is why VLAD is a JOKE when it comes to anything sports! He does ZERO research and then swears he knows what he's talking about. He just sounds like a stupid Karen arguing sports.......

[@souperstar7050]

PED's do help with hitting. Instead of fly balls getting caught at the warning track they would go over the fence. If this happens fifteen times in a season that is a hugh difference. Instead of thirty five home runs it's fifty home runs. It also gives you fifteen extra hits which you wouldn't have had. That could mean the difference from being a 280 hitter or a 300 hitter.

[@rockscousteau]

And using them on a basketball court......100 times more impactful. If LeBron has been on roids his entire career.....off of them.....he is average at BEST

[@rockscousteau]

With that Mammoth bone growth in Lebron's jawline......he is on somthing

[@whitebelt2905]

Sally is lying to himself that roids don't make you a better MLB player. Come on man. We ain't stupid

[@eric2394]

@@rockscousteauJohn sally is an idiot 😂

[@chrisoliver4663]

We all need those Hugh differences!

[@hutch333player]

Great confirmation from John Sally.

[@tonynacho1311]

Everybody is on steroids-Nate Diaz

[@nikestrada5295]

Is he ?

[@bradbrown9722]

Gotta respect both of the Diaz guys. Nothing but real....

[@tonynacho1311]

@@fuzedv2401 but nate made it infamous

[@jermainem4340]

No wonder why no one can play more than 30 mins a game.

[@SRS1969]

Fun fact: The steriods you get for pneumonia are corticosteroids, which do the absolute opposite thing that anabolic steroids do. Corticosteroids are catabolic and break down tissue. They are use to reduce inflamation; not to build muscle.

[@jamalvines2133]

FOOD PRODUCTS

[@thesneed02]

Tawwwwk!!!! 💯

[@cornjulio]

Yeah when i heard him start saying steroids arent unhealthy i was like wtf i hope people do their research

[@jamalvines2133]

@@cornjulio steroids are in most food and medicine

[@TheKos2Kos]

@@jamalvines2133 what medicine are you talking about. Most medicines interact g protein coupled receptors ....that's pretty much the text book definition of medical drug since the Nobel prize was won for that. G protein coupled receptors dont react with steroids especially not fat/cholesterol based steroids like androgens

[@DeeBrownLTD]

Rashad Lewis, Lindsey Hunter and Hedo T.. names blew my mind!!

[@EdgarAlpO]

Yo John continues to learn Vlad with every interview

[@MegaDeezy25]

The way he said Hedo Turkgolu’s name tho😂

[@johncalipari5577]

He don’t know shit about sports 🤣

[@marioluvian4682]

Lmaoo

[@nbahighlightsbymeme1835]

Lol

[@boobiemiles6321]

Bro I'm dead 😂 and his name has a grade school pronunciation to it even minuse the accent damn Google

[@HispanicLove1]

Yoni bust out laughing n then sally said are you serious I was like yea how u fuck that name up lol

[@iuhgfmnbert1744]

Lebron definitely probably been using it since them heat days

[@bajanlife8011]

@Samad Khalid how is the hair loss a give away my friend is 20 and bald are you in the rum again

[@coollibra3644]

Lebron definitely doing something

[@thegreat9481]

@@bajanlife8011 you just compare your friend to lebron? Lmfao

[@billclinton8300]

Max kellerman already put le’excuse on blast about steroids lol Google it “LeBron on steroids first take” it will come up

[@Lord2wiceAsReal]

It's no probably he's most definitely a PED user most likely was still taking them after his Heat days

[@Dilla4life]

Damn Spider! Great take! Facts

[@Dougfunny37]

The way he said Hedo Türkoğlu’s name made me punch my screen lmaooo

[@doubledge6579]

In the words of the late great Charlie Murphy " Everybody crying Its not fair, its not fair. If everybody(85%) is using them than it sounds pretty mfin fair to me" lol

[@johnnymartinez305]

all is fair in love and war

[@Nick-bd4tf]

Not really, when everyone is using in the big leagues then more people will use in college, when people are using in college high schooler will start using. Causing young men to destroy their bodies in an effort to make it pro

[@jw8863]

Oj mayo was a beast in high school and college... nobody was stopping wilt Chamberlin without super serum

[@fisouth78]

When Barry was hitting them home runs and they were walking him, I enjoyed every last bit of it. I haven’t watch it since

[@gregwilbur5462]

Me either they lost alotta fans lol

[@ernestkisic299]

Salley point is 💯 on point

[@Nick-bd4tf]

No it isnt

[@TheOneAboveAll_]

Shout out to Ken Griffey Jr.

[@teshomacalkins3257]

💯

[@TheOneAboveAll_]

@tyrese smith He was one of a few who didn't take them, especially when they could have helped with his many injuries

[@freddycalipari4242]

Lamar Davis jose canseco took them and still came down with injuries. Nobody knows if Griffey was clean

[@dugnice]

It should be no secret that PEDs are common in pretty much all pro sports. When Marion Jones was exposed as a cheater, that was the last straw for me and I stopped believing in fair play in pro sports. It's all WWE to me now. 😒

[@tylers6611]

But by that logic, if they all are juicing, doesn’t that mean they are all equal?

[@igorslocks]

@@tylers6611 thank you. And it's actually a reason to legalize it amongst all pro sports Leagues. Only way to level plyn field

[@CaptainUncle1836]

@@igorslocks thats a can of worms

[@energysurgefitness1738]

@@tylers6611 no because some people respond better to them.

[@energysurgefitness1738]

@@igorslocks the playing field won't be leveled at all. It would be a chemical battle, money battle, dr. Battle etc.

[@giorgiogbenyon1834]

I like his perspective

[@joemiller8482]

Preach J. Sally....I agree 100%.....

[@davitvelasco1]

The way he said Hedo’s name 🤣

[@datniqqajigga2x190]

heydude-terkoogaluh

[@datniqqajigga2x190]

😂😂😂

[@DreErdna]

@@datniqqajigga2x190 nas

[@ThePrayinmantiz]

Yeah I was wondering what he was saying...🤣

[@demarkusevans1490]

I died when Vlad said NBA and John blinked like 6 times😂😂

[@tonylong9781]

It makes you heal quicker, and other players aren’t using then u have an advantage.

[@vadamane]

No wonder it was crazy in baseball cause they got like 150 games a season or some shit.

[@Kagemusha08]

@@vadamane Unless you're a pitcher playing 150 games of baseball is a hell of a lot easier on the body than playing 82 games of basketball. Another reason why people who say "BuT NbA PLAyeRS HAvE NO ReASON to ROiD!!!:" either don't know what they're talking about or are purposely lying.

[@Ahmedaphor]

Salley like that cool uncle who rolls up once and in a while, always ready with a story!! Always on point with the specific details! “Actually this is why they go to Germany…”

[@disturbed157]

He's lying out of his ass here

[@kanajingly8957]

Except he's not cool. He's being dismissive of a doctor who is actually trying to help people from an increased risk of developing cancer. Ask any cancer patient what they think of someone like that.

[@airhall24]

Faster recovery gives you the chance to work harder longer and more. Which helps in developing your skills and equals to being a better player

[@derekchangedyou1392]

Yea but its CHEATING!. Not everbody can afford to use PEDs.

[@stumpu96]

@@derekchangedyou1392 Having money is not cheating lol

[@derekchangedyou1392]

@@stumpu96 No its not. But using it to gain an unfair advantage in competition is. If PEDs were allowed in sports the people with the most financial resources would have an unfair advantage because they'll be able to afford the newest and best peds available. Not to mention basic PEDs are still very expensive for the average person. And that's just one aspect why peds are and should continue to be banned. Others include its detrimental to athletes long term health in some instances and its just ethically wrong. Sports is suppose to be the equalizer meaning everyone plays by the same rules there are no handicaps. You have to show your skill and how much you prepare and practiced to win. Allowing PEDs throws that out the window

[@TheKos2Kos]

@@derekchangedyou1392 unfortunately sports is really about making money these days at least the sports with the big paying leagues at the pro level. That's begging for corruption unfortunately

[@solomonoverhead]

I’m dying lol. Uncle Sally lookin’ like a deer in the headlights with a sly smile, when Vlad mentioned NBA players. smh

[@elaRRman]

its actually hard to believe that an athlete highkey support the use of PEDs . wtf is goin on

[@Lamar0305]

You already have the skill, the Enhancement is like taking the fatigue off on the game and the players never get tired and just run through your opponent

[@maxcartel6707]

LMFAO the way vlad pronouces hedo's name im crying

[@Westlyn80]

Bron damn sure ducked that list. Look at his body after the Miami days to his cavs days.. He'd gotten smaller.. Taken a vacation and got back bigger. Look it up. Steroid benefits = Quicker recovery n durability ( if used properly)

[@sanderkonto297]

yeah and they sold do a customer LJ.. workers said it was lebron

[@mjg6233]

I did both looked very athletic 😨

[@budzmckenzie6606]

LeBron was bigger than most NBA players come straight out of high school. I’m not even a fan of his but he’s simply a natural phenomenon

[@iuhgfmnbert1744]

Yeah ik what your saying about them heat days I had saw that too

[@coollibra3644]

@@budzmckenzie6606 lebron actually got huge during Miami

[@PhillToro845]

It also makes reflexes better

[@davidplyler8173]

Love John Salley.

[@Clee-dv9jz]

Making you bigger and stronger does make you better

[@donovansmalls5079]

You still have to hit the ball.

[@CodyvsEveryone]

@@donovansmalls5079 no shit but what happens when you hit the ball

[@DreErdna]

@@donovansmalls5079 that’s like saying u still have the make the tackle. NO SHIT!! But u will be probably fuck up the player or cause more fumbles

[@darkhorse306]

In Jose Canseco's case, he has a twin brother who's the exact same size as him. Did the exact same steroid & training program as him, but didn't do shit in baseball.

[@triptizzle8566]

Steroids turns doubles into home runs period

[@jvnbrk]

He kinda contradicted himself,he said roids don't make you a better player but next sentence said they do help you recover faster. That makes a huge difference in how you play,think and focus. Roids play a part in a lot more than physical strength

[@vinceramirez6963]

Not only that, he said it can’t make you hit certain styles of pitching, fats balls, curve balls etc. this is true, but if I’m playing at the MLB level, that means I’m proficient enough to hit those types of throws and if I’m using PED and I make contact more often than not, I’m going to be stronger which in turn makes me hit harder and farther. So he’s talking out of his ass. It makes a difference. I wouldn’t be surprised if he took PED. The way he’s defending his stance makes me think he did

[@Oexciting]

He’s not wrong, everyone is doing steroids and you not doing it might impact your ability to provide. You’d be dumb to not do it. Now, it’ll help you recover and play the game again. But, the main thing is you can keep playing the game and providing.

[@naderomiller8557]

@@vinceramirez6963 have you juiced ?

[@jvnbrk]

I never said I would or wouldn't,but him saying they don't improve your performance and then saying it improves your recovery in the same sentence is contradicting, that's just a fact. I don't really care but he's also wrong about long term effects. Have you seen some old former juice heads? They're not too kind on your body in the long run and I just don't think it's worth it.

[@ThaRedPitbull]

Agreed. Steroids were made to help bedridden people maintain muscle mass. The stuff starts changes your body without you even lifting a weight.

[@djrickstareaction272]

VLAD GONE FLASHBACK THIS WATCH 🤣🎯

[@igorslocks]

He said Don McLean & Matt Geiger(counter)😂😂😂 That Slice of American Pie made my day.

[@Sangotayo]

Vlad is getting very comfortable with being confrontational with his guest.

[@BingeworthyContent]

He always has been he just does it in a passive aggressive fashion

[@malnotmal6084]

Yall kill me with this take. Its called journalism. Hes been doing this so long because he doesnt ask softball questions. I dont watch as much because the Farrakhan situation but stop acting like hes harassing these people.

[@timoaksproductions]

way outta line whatcha say🤣🤣🤣

[@axjohn]

Salley OWNED Vlad in this segment! That Georgia Tech education right there. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@methafuture]

Damn I thought i was the only one who thought this guy thinks hes smarter than anyone or that his facts are the only true ones. Extremely annoying

[@pastorbluntaround7701]

Corticosteroids and Steroids do the opposite of each other... he made no sense lol

[@TA-ht4jo]

Vlad is an idiot.

[@truthiscensored]

Stop giving White Institutions credit for the intellect of Black People... Salley has many life experiences way before and after he was at GA Tech

[@Eltown33]

How he damn near admitted guys are using Peds and defends it...

[@henrycoxe8326]

“Heh-DOO TerKOOGla” Hedo Turkoglu 😂😂😂

[@ChrisS-nb4hi]

It definitely makes you see the ball better and hit it further so it does make you a better player

[@jaygunny8402]

Hannibal buress said it best- “LeBron James needs to stop taking HGH His hairline fucked up from the HGH Went from one head band to like, eighty-eight” 😂😂😂😂 that shit was hard!

[@Micheck-1]

Mlb did an investigation on some player's that flew down a Miami during the 2014 2015...Its a coincidence the LBJ had the worst numbers since his rookie year that same year in Cleveland go online you'll see his game log first 2 plus months...Lost weight like Bonds while cycling off takes that week vacation comes back bigger stronger & better

[@SILMANTV]

@@Micheck-1 yup yup when he decided to lose weight and was super slim then came back big as hell

[@sir_henbrown]

😂😂

[@jordanmack4565]

@@Micheck-1 Yessir, him, Jamier Nelson, and Arod's names were on a biogenesis ledger in miami that got busted for selling PEDS to athletes. If you look up the story it says a guy named "Mr. Paul" would pick up and sign for "LBJ" but the NBA will never let this get out, probably not until LeBron is long retired.

[@Micheck-1]

@@jordanmack4565 If you look at Lebrons numbers 2014/2015 on NBA reference you see allot 5/14 5/16 games with 4 or less rebs...with all the jumping and running playoffs games..Its highly suspicious plus The ppl will say he takes care of his body my answer to that is so does everyone else in sport's...Hes getting extra help somewhere else I feel

[@ThaRedPitbull]

John Sally is that friend that says some outlandish stuff when everyone is chilling watching TV and then cause everyone to stare at him.

[@AhatiMaat]

What did he say that is outlandish from this video?

[@joeltaveras229]

What was so outlandish???

[@seankiesling2054]

@@DSimmons-yl9od he's 1000000% not correct though. Wow .... for being a former professional athlete Salley comes off as an idiot. "Steroids don't make you hit a fastball better or a slider better" correct... but you're already a professional... you've developed that skill and hand-eye coordination all your life from little league all the way up to the pros. Now, you have elite athleticism, elite hand-eye coordination and you inject steroids into someone with all those professional level skill sets.... the same dude who could ALREADY hit a curveball or slider, now, instead of a warning track flyout or a double off the wall are now turning into homeruns and traveling about 50 feet further. I've always thought the people who use the "steroids don't make you hit the ball better or improve your hand-eye coordination" were non-athletes who don't know what they're talking about that never played. You're giving a guy who can ALREADY hit a major league fastball, curve or slider with professional elite hand-eye coordination a drug that makes the ball go 50 feet further when he DOES hit the ball with the professional level skill set he already has from 2 decades of developing his game to that point. John Salleys take here sounds like a couch potato on Facebook that I've read over and over and over again. I'm a bit surprised

[@CosmicFlow111]

It gives you more mentally and physically! Ego and confidence

[@TheKhalil81]

Good convo and I agree 100% with John Sally. Just because they don't like they will banned it without no studies being done not even asking the athletes how there bodies feel nothing. So take its your body.

[@Nbayone]

He tore hedo name to shreds

[@Maxrepfitgm]

Herd o Tur go la

[@gainztrain9890]

Head-doo Tur-ka-gluh 🤣🤣

[@HelptheBear_ImtheBear]

RI-CO-LAAA

[@ame871022]

Finally someone who’s opened to this conversation because most sports athletes take steroids

[@MDDeardorff]

Yes it will you will be more confident stronger faster it doesn’t improve ur talent but if you have talent you will be more confident and that’s huge in pro sports

[@addisonfrance]

It’s huge in all sports and after being around a few pro athletes it’s sad how many actually do it. The testing system’s so easy to beat

[@twalt0817]

Look at LeBron head. And his back acne

[@GFTRP-pz1wu]

2:30 Salley is low key saying he and others took steroids in the NBA. Now I am thinking, they probably still do to this day. I am an NBA fan LMAO. That shit makes a difference my guy.

[@GFTRP-pz1wu]

Haha that's right. The league is way more entertaining now. That's a fact

[@bronxmosthated1]

Sally the man! Is all up to the person if they want it give them the information and let them choose

[@jackprecip5389]

Wow, a Darius Miles mention, haven't thought about him in a long time. I remember watching a Clippers game years ago when Bill Walton was one of the commentators, Darius Miles threw a terrible inbounds pass and Walton said "That was arguably the worst inbounds pass in the history of the Clippers franchise."

[@davidchandler6885]

Miles might of tried it cause he had serious injuries so early, ya I am surprised cause hardly any nbaers are built at all, most like avg guy in shape at YMCA just taller

[@YoLoBrOtHeR]

@@davidchandler6885 if you haven’t been to an nba game then its hard to judge nba players real size.

[@moseshanon7060]

John Salley is a 1st ballot,🏅H.O.F, Excuse Maker.

[@hendrix-giovannijohnson9701]

It's ballot

[@martinezmccurry6751]

Bo Jackson was a beast one of the only natural athletes in baseball back then.

[@user-kv3ut6pv4b]

Yeah ; but Sally was right baseball steroids not a huge factor. Track , football totally different story even basketball

[@johndavis9321]

@@user-kv3ut6pv4b steroids was huge in baseball bro you trippin

[@johndavis9321]

Yeah that dude was an athletic freak

[@user-kv3ut6pv4b]

@@johndavis9321 I said not a huge factor , not use. do yourself a huge favor an grab a dictionary, youngin

[@johndavis9321]

@@user-kv3ut6pv4b oh ok I got you still I’d argue steroids have just as much impact on a sport like baseball than any other sport

[@daleclark4750]

Luv Salley

[@texasboy3427]

It gives you more energy.

[@STell743]

I told people 5 years ago this was going on. Especially with one star player. He never gets hurt unless it's an ankle injury.

[@TruStory97]

Lebron James 🤣😂

[@STell743]

@@TruStory97 Bingo

[@TruStory97]

@@STell743 Bruh that man came back to Cleveland skinny asf and then took two weeks off and came back 20 plus pounds bigger and faster?!? Lol I been trying to tell people that he was on the shits, but everybody get in they feelings when they find out they favorite athletes been cheating to stay on top.

[@STell743]

@@TruStory97 He the only guy I know that can come from hamstring and groin injuries in 2 weeks. And it takes NFL players 4 to 6 weeks to comeback from those type of injuries.

[@TruStory97]

@@STell743 That’s what I’m saying smh. Dude really been in almost 20 years without a significant injury lol. I know people like to turn blind eyes but come on now, the dude relies on the juice to even do what he’s doing. Think about it, the only thing that has improved in his game is passing, that’s it lol.

[@jkelly1418]

Vlad got that know it all complex 🤦🏾‍♂️, like bro how you gonna tell a pro athlete how PEDs affect your performance 🙄

[@seankiesling2054]

Wow .... for being a former professional athlete Salley comes off as an idiot. "Steroids don't make you hit a fastball better or a slider better" correct... but you're already a professional... you've developed that skill and hand-eye coordination all your life from little league all the way up to the pros. Now, you have elite athleticism, elite hand-eye coordination and you inject steroids into someone with all those professional level skill sets.... the same dude who could ALREADY hit a curveball or slider, now, instead of a warning track flyout or a double off the wall are now turning into homeruns and traveling about 50 feet further. I've always thought the people who use the "steroids don't make you hit the ball better or improve your hand-eye coordination" were non-athletes who don't know what they're talking about that never played. You're giving a guy who can ALREADY hit a major league fastball, curve or slider with professional elite hand-eye coordination a drug that makes the ball go 50 feet further when he DOES hit the ball with the professional level skill set he already has from 2 decades of developing his game to that point. John Salleys take here sounds like a couch potato on Facebook that I've read over and over and over again. I'm a bit surprised

[@demasceionbyrd3776]

@@seankiesling2054 Are You A Professional Athlete? If Not Then Ya Opinion Is Irrelevant

[@derekchangedyou1392]

@@demasceionbyrd3776 Just cause profesional in sport doesn't mean you're smart or intelligent in anything other than doing that specific sport. Sally is a dumbass. If HGH and Peds were

[@derekchangedyou1392]

Bro Salley got a know it all complex. How the fuck is he gonna sit there and say peds don't make you hit more homeruns

[@seankiesling2054]

@@demasceionbyrd3776 not a professional athlete but I played baseball for 15 years. I'd bet a lot more than Salley ever did... I'd think I know a little more or hsve a bit more knowledgeable take on a game I played for almost 2 decades vs a guy who probably didn't play past little league

[@gamecrazyoo1]

Killed em with the bathing suit contest 😂😂

[@eduardovelez9983]

It does make you hit a curve ball and slider .. builds up your endurance also ! You fast twitch muscles are on another level and because of stretoods your able to catch up to the ball faster

[@nanagyambibi7426]

I absolutely believe Bron takes something that has helped him endure all of these years. Something that is not detected that can fly under the radar. But even if Adam Silver caught Bron red handed with a needle in his ass, he would turn and look the other way because the image of the league and its integrity would die if one of its greatest players of alltime who has been the face of the league for about 12 years gets caught cheating. The brand would die.

[@FPSLarryIII]

The man Bron been a man child since before he joined the league and he has gotten hurt twice in 3 years the past 3 years. Did he all of a sudden stop when he got to the Lakers? It’s been plenty of athletes fortunate enough to not get hurt or not hurt often.

[@Ma1q444]

Ped breakdown your body over age your wrong

[@binisman6064]

@@FPSLarryIII Fortunate to have access to the needles ya

[@terminat1]

He's obviously on something.

[@superflick100]

Hater alert

[@bradbrown9722]

Maurice Lucas, Charles Barkley, dale davis, Ben Wallace, Olajuwon, to name a few more big & naturally solid NBA dudes from back in the day I’m sure there’s more....

[@johndavis9321]

Well Barkley was just fat but I feel you tho

[@kevincallaghan5519]

@@johndavis9321 no in the beginning

[@mrhmd8308]

The only steroids Charles Barkley ever took was from the burgers 🍔

[@colbydonnelly6515]

Charles Barkley and Hakeem Olajuwon aren’t in any category with Dale Davis. I agree with your general statement though

[@bradbrown9722]

@@colbydonnelly6515 yea, thanks man. Obviously, the list wasn’t based on HOF stats or superiority for a few of them. Just the big strong and aggressive style that once was allowed. Even Swen Nater, Dan Issle Moses Malone, Darryl Dawkins, Mo Lucas, Bill Lambier ( you get it) could be tossed into that rough crowd Barkley is my favorite of all. As you might see, I go back a long time. Watched Moses when he came right out of HS. Channel 4 Indianapolis which showed all the pacers home games. Artis Gilmore, Dr J as a Net, Big George. That was b4 the ABA/NBA merge

[@douglasfuentes2737]

It does make you a better player because you recover faster which means you can practice more, and practice makes progress!

[@bmon3100]

I don’t agree with Salley on the batting thing. You can be a good hitter yeah, but ped’s can help your strength which increase swing speed no?so your swing is better. It does help you hit a curveball, and every other pitch..

[@arthurbb8937]

I agree to a point. PED will make you hit a ball further so Salley is wrong that it does not help you. Hitting a nasty curve or slider has nothing to do with bat speed. It's being able to identify the pitch as a fastball, curve or slider in a split second then determine it's location. That's cognitive vision and hand eye coordination. PED doesn't help with that. It definitely turns a doubles hitter into a HR hitter.

[@builtolast8663]

Exactly they got Ped's for everything not just strength but he already knows that

[@trainerpool8919]

Vlad always knows more than the person in their particular sport or profession.. he watches a few KZbin videos and is a subject matter expert

[@trainerpool8919]

@X X what makes one an expert on anabolic steroids.. the person that has liver disease from it or the person that watched people using it for decades

[@ThatBo03]

This whole argument is full of holes smh. Salley knows he's lying with his blanket statement on steroids. Different ones do different things for the body. Oh and he's tripping for saying Karl Malone was just strong. He was roided up.

[@quanblack2465]

U just mad

[@GulliversFlo]

@@quanblack2465 you really think dudes who play for millions dollars contracts, multiple times a week, against other dudes who are just as athletic if not moreso, aren’t gonna try and get an edge? Not to mention the toll sports takes on the body. You living in fairytale land brah

[@maxmeier532]

The irony is, Salley doesnt know one bit about steroids or different types and how they work completely different within the body. Estregens are steroids but you wont find anyone taking those to get huge. Gosh, I am all for free speech, but if Vlad on his big channel is going to address issues like these, he has to check that bullshit, and that's especially true for Salley cause even among pro athletes who stopped studying anything in 5th grade, he has to be the dumbest of them all.

[@sh0tym370]

John Salley is so hilarious 🤣😆😂

[@devontefletcher7257]

When they was talking about PEDS and they got to NBA.. 😂😂Johns face! He knew

[@qigonglungz]

Vlad hates being wrong... He normally is wrong... He can't accept just being an experienced journalist... He has to be an expert of his interviewee experiences too... Hahah...love to see confident people put him back in his place...

[@hansolodolo92]

Typical with his type

[@truthhurts837]

Out of one side of his mouth, Spider Salley is saying that steroids don’t help. Out of the other side of his mouth he is saying that people should use steroids because they do help. All in the same breath.

[@AdrianGordon1231]

Don't be naive. Most of the league uses PEDS and Salley knows this.

[@Ryan2Julio]

Except he’s actually 100% right on this one.

[@abelrobles3331]

I love you John. Tell it straight to the heart, even vlad didn't want to hear it. LOL

[@jasonwolfe3252]

I remember Brady Anderson in the 90s. He went from hitting pop fly warning track power to hitting 400ft home runs because of steroids .

[@jasonwolfe3252]

@Keith Joseph foot*

[@OldSchool82]

yes brady sideburn anderson was on steroids, idc about him. but what about Cal? i really hope his career is legit.

[@nymike06]

Brett Boone too

[@ibey2253]

Facts...didn't he end up on Men's Health Magazine?

[@ibey2253]

Mr. Salley corporate smooth

[@nusoundent.4334]

They used steroids to maintain their level at that age. Players don't want to fall off a cliff in their career, they want to ride to the wheels fall off by any means. But it's funny how Lebron's Miami ped investigation got swept under the rug

[@melo7969]

I need a link to this allegation

[@nusoundent.4334]

@@melo7969 That was during A rod and roger clemens congress hearings w/ Anthony Bosch in a Miami clinic. You have to watch the hearings to get the jist of it

[@melo7969]

@@nusoundent.4334 I remember Bron being named in something but I couldn't remember the time frame and where to find it. I had this discussion with some one.

[@nusoundent.4334]

@@melo7969 During Anthony Bosch being investigated for roger they found a appointment book and they found roger in it, but there was a name further down the list that only got mentioned by a few reporters around that time. The initials were LBJ. Roger was the one in question for Congress on that list.

[@dariog36th]

bigger and stronger in baseball doesn't just equivalate to more homeruns. Makes you faster and can cover the field better, throw the ball faster and further, and run the bases faster.

[@dariog36th]

@boss 630 I’m just saying why does John Salley pretend it doesn’t help you perform better. I’m not against steroids but people shouldn’t play dumb and pretend they don’t help reach peak physical form.

[@budzmckenzie6606]

@@dariog36th I think he’s talking about natural skill and immense talent opposed to guys who scrape the bottom of the barrel

[@dariog36th]

@@budzmckenzie6606 well look at Sammy Sosa. He was a mediocre player with a horrible batting average and hitting an okay number of home runs and all of a sudden he’s hitting 60 something home runs multiple years. If it wasn’t for steroids he would never hit 60 home runs in a season.

[@tureign]

Man salley makes some good points not afraid to have a different opinion

[@AthleticArtillery]

It’s all about the recovery!!

[@MrJ1S]

THE WAY GLAD RUINED HEDO'S LAST NAME IS ON PAR WITH BOOSIE AND VICTOR'S LAST NAME LMAOOOOO U should be able to sue for damages...my word glad

[@christophercomitini8619]

LMAO!!!!!!!

[@truthhurts837]

Out of one side of his mouth, Spider Salley is saying that steroids don’t help. Out of the other side of his mouth he is saying that people should use steroids because they do help. All in the same breath.

[@MrJ1S]

@@truthhurts837 right. its unbelievable

[@christophercomitini8619]

@@truthhurts837 He's saying steroids don't make you a better ball player but they help in recovery.

[@truthhurts837]

So?

[@lastmatch1111]

If you recover quicker, you can work out harder, which will make you stronger, which increases your confidence, which can make you a better player.

[@qjeng6052]

“Can” ....requires more than size and strength to be good at certain skills

[@mikjord]

When you feel stronger, you feel empowered and your confidence gets a big boost.

[@dereksedgwick8293]

dude i watched barry bonds live after he blew up to double size. he was tapping liner foul balls that were turning into home runs. guaranteed a whole bunch of fly outs turned to home runs. made him a "better ball player" statistically for sure. then they started walking him more, then his OBP went up and etc etc

[@paleamigo8575]

I believe it made him stronger, as expected. But it did not increase his "hand-eye coordination". His ability to hit a round ball with a round bat is what got him into the league like most athletes. Let's take someone who sucks at batting and give them steroids, they will only strike out swinging harder.

[@elijaharvinger1178]

@@paleamigo8575 That's what the OP said. He's not saying they make you better in term's of skill. But they do enhance the skills you already have. Balls Bonds used to hit to the wall are now going over the wall thanks to increased strength from PEDs. It's really not rocket science. The stronger you are the further you can hit a ball. Yes you still have to have skill to hit the ball but now you have additional strength to hit the ball way further. If I can only lift 100 pounds and then I start taking a drug that allows me to lift 500 pounds how is that not going to improve my athletic performance? Even a small improvement is still an improvement due to drug use.

[@nelsonvallin3535]

“Have you seen a bathing suite contest? They don’t look human either” 😂🤣😂

[@Independent365]

Another example of Vlad just not taking the L on his ignorance over a topic LOL...

[@mdcampbe]

So are all the athletic commissions that ban PED’s - in every major sport - somehow ignorant too...?

[@kaseywavy5542]

derrick rose actually denied saying this get it together vlad😂😂😂

[@coreylyons6024]

Vlad said that

[@quinnmartin9937]

@Jae M facts

[@johndavis9321]

@Jae M yeah we know what that was the higher ups in the league told him to chill out or else

[@johndavis9321]

@Jae M nah Derrick fucked up his knees cause he had terrible landing mechanics plus his playstyle plus dumbass thibedoux playin him like 40 minutes every night

[@demetrrius3000]

@@johndavis9321 facts. Shouldn’t have even been in the game at that point

[@stNE-lh3hk]

been waiting all day for this!!!! I aint paying the 1.99!!

[@jamieday6602]

John Sally is awesome! I love how he puts Vlad in his place! Lol

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

Vlad is right, it increases strength which boosts homerun potential.

[@TA-ht4jo]

Sally is also right. Steroids help you recover quicker.

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

@@TA-ht4jo yeah but Vlad never argued against that.

[@arizonaFIREent]

Naw I actually agree with Salley

[@bfranchyze2381]

John Saley got a permanent smile on his face........his regular face is a smile

[@qzgoonieify]

Happy freddy gibbs

[@DMalltheway]

Matt Geiger would be a good interview especially since he was the one that used his no trade clause which the Iverson to Detroit trade in 2000 was killed.

[@williamlawrence1044]

How can he say strength plays no part in performance in sports?

[@raymonkravagna278]

What's Sally does not realize is that a Fly ball turns into a homerun when you're that strong

[@wilcoxcmc]

He's letting the steroids he take talk for him this interview

[@wisedyer2133]

No it doesn’t

[@raymonkravagna278]

@@wisedyer2133 yes

[@mattyarbrough71]

Still gotta hit it first

[@raymonkravagna278]

@@mattyarbrough71 steroids also makes you quicker with your swing. So when you make contact it's going further no matter what Barry Bonds was a great contact hitter so of course he's going to hit all those home runs