Conversations | Professor Geoffrey Blainey | The Importance of Understanding History

[@AmbroseArchery]

I am so impress Mr Anderson. You say as little as possible and let the guest speak. I love your channel.

[@srinivaschillara4023]

Yes, that is true. What a strange polititcian.

[@johncitizen3227]

🙌👍. These conversations are air to the drowning. Thank you.🙏

[@DaNtHeMaN919]

John, these are fantastic conversations with key Australian figures - you are doing us all a great service by publishing these. I only hope they could be longer! Keep up the great work.

[@stevesewell6719]

Another great conversation with an Australian living legend.

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thanks Steve

[@ariunglik9240]

Spot on with personal pride overtaking humility. It's rather like fighting for rights while fighting off the responsibilities that come with the rights.

[@MercedesClaudia]

It is so comforting to see an interview person-to-person, two people sitting together within 6 feet, no social distancing.

[@ausforaus7617]

"Primary schools are the great educators, not universities" Now I AM depressed I am a grandfather, so my grandchildren are in the grinder of this education revision

[@locoemutwo4872]

me too.

[@philiplake7968]

John Anderson Melanie Phillips

[@sandfly]

How depressingly true. As Aristotle is reputed to have remarked, 'Give me the boy at 7 and I will show you the man". Nevertheless, emasculating the liberal Humanities may eventually cut off the supply of callow propagandists.

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

@@pmcguinness3041 I'm so old I remember when a Liberal Arts Degree meant you actually knew REAL things.

[@Pacdoc-oz]

my daughters are home schooling until past elementary and primary basics - my grandchildren are not in the clutches of the post-civilisation tyrants.

[@lorenzmielke5125]

Thank you for sharing the "Glimpse of Australian History" with the rest of the world. May God continue to bless you both

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thank you Lorenz

[@anthonykennedy5324]

Brilliant. Evidence-based belief. Great to hear it. And John Anderson impressed, too. Terrific conversation.

[@alangilbert8627]

A great interview, I've always had a love for history, the good the bad and the ugly. It's there to guide us so that we hopefully don't repeat the bad and the ugly....

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thanks Alan! Much appreciated.

[@debster1073]

History is there to learn from. Hence we learn from our mistakes. But with all these groups re-writing history, history to I detriment is going to be repeated.

[@brobsonmontey]

I too opposed the notion of an Australian Bill of Rights, until this year. We've seen a substantial encroachment by Australian governments on historical freedoms, over the past 6 months, under the guise of protecting the public against the COVID19 pandemic. What assurances do we currently have that those governments will relinquish their newly procured authority when the pandemic is over? What happens if the pandemic is never "over"? The reality is that, as things stand, and as I understand it, Australians actually have very few protections against a tyrannical/authoritarian government - which is why I am now in favor of an Australian Bill of Rights (including gun ownership - which I previously hated the idea of).

[@alangilbert8627]

But do trust the government of today write the bill of rights?

[@neilblair7267]

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[@DouglasGross6022]

I'd also like to commend you for understanding the purpose of the Second Amendment. It is _not_ about hunting or even self defense. Its purpose is to ensure that the People can protect themselves (and the States) against tyranny.

[@tascman54]

I would add that in the US, sovereign states, each jealous of their own governments, yet united in their theocratic duty, formed a public servant who's sole purpose was to provide a very limited service found in Article1Section8 of the Constitution. The Amendments [Bill of Rights] were not a list of bestowed rights, but further restrictions to the newly formed government to protect the liberty of the states. So 1st Amendment starts with 'Congress shall make no law...' and continues through to the 10th. Preamble of the amendments is a must read also. Rights were understood to be universal from the Creator.

[@benchapple1583]

Oh yes! Guns aren't for hunting, although they can be used that way. They're for shooting tyrants and their servants. they're also fun!

[@clairerobsin]

Thank you for your great show John, Advance Australia!

[@monty9463]

Such a superb channel. Not only are we able to enjoy many wonderful people, but John Anderson's own powerful intellect, extraordinary breadth of knowledge, humility and charisma really add a special quality to his many interviews. Always a politician with decency, I am so glad you continue to give us quality experiences by way of your very special channel Thank you Mr Anderson😊

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thank you for the kind words and support Monty.

[@dasglasperlenspiel10]

This is a particularly wonderful discussion. Thank you very much for offering these wonderful commentaries on contemporary life.

[@damo780]

Deep penetration of many important current topical issues for Australia. Very good. Thankyou

[@richardburton5706]

What a sincere and lovely man.

[@patriciakimball8150]

Both of these men are sincere and lovely.

[@craigstaehr3251]

Thanks John for another great insight into values and our history. Really good comments about the environment and what we should take into account when debating the issues. Really enjoyed this interview.

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thanks for the encouragement Craig.

[@franklyle8767]

Another great discussion John. thank you for helping to educate us properly.

[@hlwebb9877]

Thank you, both.

[@wallacec3364]

John , Thank you for bringing us this wonderful conversation .I have shared it with my children .Keep it up !

[@sandfly]

Two Australian patriots in civilised, rational discussion. How very rare is this sort of thing these days? They inevitably focus, albeit discreetly (very) on the fact that democracy requires at its centre some fundamentally common precepts. I'm neither a celebrated historian nor a respected former politician but I always expected that multiculturalism would lead us into national fragmentation, and it has. I'm no white supremacist, in my opinion, all people are entitled to equal treatment but not all cultures are necessarily equal... as Blainey remarked. The wild-eyed horse has already bolted and clearly, these two fine men know that to be the case... a mere punter like myself, might ask, 'What now'?

[@homebrandrules]

Goodonya jonno, great interview, great guest, great channel

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thanks for the support!

[@homebrandrules]

@@JohnAndersonMedia thanks for loving our country and doing your best for us ( and continuing to do so)

[@wintertontoday]

Dear Mr Anderson, Please consider interviewing and speaking with Professor Arran Gare, philosopher of Swinburne University. Thank you.

[@kelvinwilsonpoet3200]

So much more satisfying than 20 second or 2 minute sound bites. Terrific 😊

[@johncitizen9540]

Is Blainey still alive? "The Tyranny of Distance" framed my thinking as a set university text in the early 1990s. This book seemed well established by then.

[@fainitesbarley2245]

Apparently so.

[@fiedag]

Unless he’s passed away in the last week...

[@rosshoddinott2563]

Great conversation thank you

[@jessicali8594]

Is the professor (emeritus) in physical pain? There's such an intensity in his eyes. He turned 90 in March.

[@LA-kc7ev]

Softened, ripened, likely in some pain at least, keenly aware of everything he loves, including history, and many more things, I am sure.

[@locoemutwo4872]

@@LA-kc7ev I wonder what his formal education included into the Methodist Ministry. During this time there was quite a change in the Methodist church- from one of evangeliism to one of "one world philosophy.".

[@FizzVizard]

Looks good for 90, I was surprised when he said he started writing in 1950, I thought he was about 70 max

[@valerieswanson1769]

The battle is not between good people and bad people. The war is between the truth of good versus evil.

[@traceyonus4749]

Most definitely so over the white man's patriarchal global evil ha 2020 🙄🫣

[@alanbrooke144]

Hi John, I’ve really been enjoying the conversations you’ve been having with your guests. Is there any chance of going one with David Brooks , the American commentator? Cheers.

[@MatthewJohnCrittenden]

Great conversation, as usual.

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thanks for the support Matt.

[@MatthewJohnCrittenden]

@@JohnAndersonMedia I'm finding my politically leanings have lurched severely to the right recently and feel better for it. Also taken a keen interest in religion thanks to Jordan Peterson. Strange but welcome days. Greetings from Queensland.

[@dartharpy9404]

Thankyou

[@christopherrobbins9985]

I like the cut of this guy's jib. Blainey is an interesting man with lots to say.

[@homebrandrules]

I,ll wager half a dozen squashed apricots to your empty egg carton that I,m more of a connesuir of jibs than thou, if only i accurately knew what a jib actually was ! Bloody blackadder

[@NG-dc2pk]

Regular listener and fan of yours from India

[@antineafry9510]

One of my history professor said one day « History is a messy business ». May be she was right....

[@snoopdoggfanclub]

great discussion everyone!

[@sallyhollis47]

What wonderful men…. Who will be our next wonderful men I wonder 🤷‍♀️

[@thomaskember4628]

When I was at school in Sydney in the 1940’s we were taught that Arthur Philip was the founder of Australia. What we weren’t told was that he was half German. I suppose in the middle of the second word war this was understandable. Also that he was half Jewish, his father had come from Hamburg.

[@locoemutwo4872]

wow. this paints many new pictures into his "thoughts" during WWII

[@Mark_Dyer1]

With regard to the Judeo/Christian contribution (Yes! They DO belong together!) to Australia's history, do you think that - as here in the UK - the attacks on this contribution arise through the antisemitism of the LEFT? Here, the LEFT is closely allied with Islam (which does NOT belong with the faith of Abraham, of Isaac, of Israel, and of Jesus!) and so is 'de factor' antisemitic, and constantly seeks to trash the contribution of our Judeo/Christian inheritance. And when you come to discussing "competing rights", this, too, is mirrored in the UK; where (those of us who have had eyes to see!) have been predicting the dangers which arise from a LAWYER-DOMINATED society over the past fifty years. Make no mistake; this process IS driven by grasping, manipulative, lawyers; who insinuate themselves into the legislatures of most of our Western democracies, and set about erecting politically-correct cultures, to the detriment of any society which is infested with lawyers!

[@melvynobrien6193]

Religion is an evil control system. Read SAHARASIA by Dr James DeMeo, for the truth about the origins of these insane religions.

[@Mark_Dyer1]

@@melvynobrien6193 Mel, when anyone speaks of "the truth", I grow suspicious: just as I am of those who speak of "THE science" with regard to covid-19. Having the humility to admit to never knowing "the truth" or "the science" is part of what it takes to become a mature human being.

[@Jasonxxx-uv4be]

I say this with no animosity and with the hope that we will find a way forward, but all the corrosive elements that concern civil libertarians today arise from the hyperbolic increase in the participation of women in public life. Liberal societies are premised on masculine virtues: a disdain for dependence on other people, an urge to develop and control one's own property, and the threat of violence as a last resort in resolving disputes. These conditions are thrown out the window once large numbers of women begin to occupy positions of authority and start to style the state as a giant "household" that substitutes persistent emotional manipulation (say goodbye to free speech) for the focused use of physical force and treats it citizens as children. It isn't "Socialism" that plagues the West, in other words: its decadence. Every society run by "Mommy" devolves into savagery. Look at all the places where women increasingly hold sway and ask yourself if you do not see this process in play.

[@patriciakimball8150]

Very interesting. Something to think about!

[@anonymousforever]

Utter rubbish. Take your manosphere, misogynistic worldview elsewhere!

[@rubyhoney6177]

History Does Not Repeat Itself, But It Rhymes Mark Twain

[@5p1tf1r31]

But people never learn from history and repeat the same mistakes over and over again

[@5p1tf1r31]

Slavery for many even today is the only way for them to feed cloth and house themselves. So get off your high horses.

[@TOOTSWEET61]

Ruby Honey History does repeat itself continuously. Right across history, wars have been fought over the taking of land and countries. Civil wars, world wars, guerilla wars, wars over separatist states. Constant ethnic cleansing, driving people off their land into refugee camps. It has never ended right across history. Many, many conquerors rose up to lead an army of territorial males to conqueror lands and countries. Our own Kings of England were such warlords and conquerors. It hasn’t changed. The warlords and conquerors still walk among us, willing to rise up and take territory if the time is right. We saw this just recently with the Isis warlords, men raced across the world to help them conqueror Syria. What makes men risk death by fighting wars. What is the reward? The control of land and its wealth( territorial resources)and control of more females to produce offspring with. Man is not only in competition with animals for land and resources, he is also in competition with his fellow man. It’s also simple biology. The adult cells are hard wired, extremely so, to protect and ensure the survival of their new cells, their children. As this is their only chance of immortality on this planet. The cycle of life. To a human their closest living cells on earth, are their children,their brothers and sisters,cousins, aunts and uncles, and on a wider basis their tribe through generations of intermarriage. Tribes are bloodline, cellular,kin. The individual works at jobs to serve the tribe and the tribe provides for and protects the individuals within from outside attack, and emergency situations. And to provide abundance for our closest cellular links to survive and thrive, we must provide them with abundant territorial resources. Most wars are between different ethnic groups, ( tribes) over control of land and countries. Then you have the warlords who take territory, to provide territory for their own future wives and children. But also they gain access to many more females to produce offspring with. As males in the wild do, when they conquer a country, they usually kill all the males, who are a territorial threat to them and rape all the women, thus producing their own offspring and bringing the land under their territorial control, completely. New males who defeat the old dominant males, will kill the male cubs of the old dominant male because the bigger the male cubs become the more of a territorial threat they become to the newly dominant territorial males. That’s why you saw Isis line up all the boys and men in Syria and shoot them, when they succeeded in taking areas. The Serbs did it too in the Bosnian war. Killed all the men and boys. I don’t think that this behaviour has changed in wars. Except with the Americans who had to worry about world opinion and civil liberties. They released 10,000 Muslim prisoners when they pulled out of Iraq. One of the prisoners said to one of the American soldiers. I’ll see you in New York. He went on to become one of the dominant Isis leaders. So all the male prisoners the Americans released they had to fight all over again in Syria. It’s not ancient history, it’s now. The warlords and conquerors still walk among us.

[@TOOTSWEET61]

Michael Glynn It’s biologically driven. Tribes are close cellular bloodlines. The adult cells are hardwired ( extremely! so)to protect their newest cellular links, their children. To a human their closest cellular links on earth, are their children, their brothers and sister,their cousins, their aunts and uncles, and on a wider basis, our tribes, because of generational tribal intermarriage. Tribes are biologically, bloodline cellular kin. The individual serves the tribe and the tribe serves and protects the individuals in the tribe. The tribe particularly protects the tribal individuals in times of major threats, like wars, and extreme weather events. And also the warriors in the tribe protect the land and territorial abundance their cellular kin need to survive and prosper. But, in times of hardship, the warriors (male army)will also conquer and take land and territory off other tribal bloodlines, to provide for their own children, wives, relatives and tribal links

[@locoemutwo4872]

lol

[@garethifan1034]

There's something to be said for being the son of a Minister.

[@j.v.n]

What about intergenerational poverty and the lack of social mobility. We give away too much foreign aid and rely on immigration to maintain GDP growth. How many foreigners have jobs that low income Australians could have? Conservatives have focused too much on free markets and migration and don't care about the low income Australians. We need a more nationalist and centrally planned Government.

[@qeoo6578]

Can you get Yaron Brook on your show. He actually understands freedom and the importance of the individual.

[@luciusseneca2715]

Try to get Bari Weiss, formerly (as of yesterday) of the New York Times. She resigned citing intolerable bullying and harassment from coworkers.

[@dmihaesi]

It's a shame.It seems that reasonable leftist are becoming extinct.

[@JohnAndersonMedia]

Thanks for the great suggestion.

[@DouglasGross6022]

Please explain the missions described around 18:50. I'm in the US, so I'm not familiar with who/how these were setup and operated. TIA

[@melrussell8542]

Hi Douglas,the missions were essentially outreaches from Christian Churches. They were the very much the end of the line when it came to government policy and tended to be used to educate aboriginal children, feed people and maybe provide minimal healthcare. When government authorities took Aboriginal children away from their parents they tended to be placed in the missions or from the missions rehoused in white society. Many lighter skinned aboriginals were the ones taken under the belief that they could more easily be integrated into White society. It was believed, by some, that the Aboriginal was dying out. That was one of the reasons given for taking the kids, others were health and also safety issues. This lead to what is now called the Stolen Generation.There was both good and bad that came out of these missions but they are now viewed as having only evil intent and outcome. Like the video says there is still a legacy there in Christian townships etc. Therefore the left will hate anything about it

[@Pacdoc-oz]

Separate nations or separate countries are organically human collectives. One world government will never be humane and must be fought against it relentlessly and remorselessly. Even as a Catholic, I oppose a world of Communism, a world of Islam as well as a world of another Roman empire. The Aborigines have experienced thousands of years of ENSO, climate fluctuations and the Northern Hemisphere has RECORDED fluctuations of climate between medieval warm period and Maunder Minimum very cold with no connection to coal and oil.

[@londonman8688]

when a country gets rich it forgets the Olympics .. look at the lack of tsuccess of the Olympics team after watching the block was most important thing to do in australia

[@sendittothisoneifyoudontmi4982]

Will we ever take a good look at what actually happened at Port Arthur or will it continue to remain kept as just an unpalatable can of worms rather than a significant eye opener on how many a bending in history has been able to be engineered?

[@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty]

As the saying goes, the winners write the history. The reality is that there are two points of view and only one point of view is recorded. Maybe history should be taught from both views. You want to know the point of view of the whole community also. I think of pride as a form of dignity. To me that means one is strong, solid in their goodness and fairness.

[@londonman8688]

Australia of today reminds me of self flagellation

[@wintertontoday]

Good point about Myall Creek and that it was a Christian who pushes for justice. And that this seems to get airbrushed away in the retelling of the event. Christianty/God did not condone slavery. It was the status quo during those times and for times prior to Christianity. The scriptures refer to slavery/ slaves in a view to care for them and in a view to promote good behaviour all round. The Messiah came for a certain purpose, ending slavery was not one of those -- at that time. Also the ancient Nation of Israel -- after they themselves were freed from slavery in Egypt, were instructed by God to care for their 'slaves' as well as award them rest on the Sabbath just as they had -- as well as the orphans, elderly and foreign residents that lived with them. Slavery was always a human idea let's be clear -- God has been letting is all play out... all of our ideas, great/not so great, and some day there will be a realistion that we need to reconnect and look to our Maker for truly just governance.

[@pattyb6003]

Our little country has lasted longer than any of the 5 French Republics

[@margaretingleby679]

People were hanged not hung .

[@hwd71]

Australia was blessed by The Lord Jesus Christ, was never a 'lucky country'. Now socialists are turning Australia into a third world country, thanks to the LIMA agreement and Rome's, Rerum Novarum's redistribution of wealth doctrine.

[@londonman8688]

the love of the dollar has destroyed australia.. just like it destroyed the australian cricket team

[@stevenwiederholt7000]

Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times.

[@keybuckley]

Kylie Minogue and Pharlap are the only good things to come out of AwztraLIa

[@grizzlygrizzle]

Right up front, I want to present an argument from philosophy about the accumulation of human understanding. plato.stanford.edu/entries/austin-jl/ First, words are our tools, and, as a minimum, we should use clean tools: we should know what we mean and what we do not, and we must forearm ourselves against the traps that language sets us. Secondly, words are not (except in their own little corner) facts or things: we need therefore to prise them off the world, to hold them apart from and against it, so that we can realize their inadequacies and arbitrariness, and can re-look at the world without blinkers. Thirdly, and more hopefully, our common stock of words embodies all the distinctions men have found worth drawing, and the connexions they have found worth making, in the lifetimes of many generations: these surely are likely to be more sound, since they have stood up to the long test of the survival of the fittest, and more subtle, at least in all ordinary and reasonably practical matters, than any that you or I are likely to think up in our arm-chairs of an afternoon-the most favoured alternative method. (1957: 181-182) Much of what we "learn" as individuals and as a species, is learned unconsciously and "automatically" through the ways that our experience in the world conditions us. In this conditioning, we are mostly passive, and not fully conscious of what's going on. Much of our learning is a trial-and-error thing, too, not the consequence of some arrogant theorist, or even later empirical theory testers. Our intellects are not fully in control, and that's a good thing, because our intellects are limited, even though nature and human nature are the contexts within which our unconscious, survival-of-the-fittest conditioning occurs. -- There is, on the left, a romantic assumption that we humans can figure out how to create a utopian society. This is an arrogant assumption that gives our intellects credit for much that we have learned passively and unconsciously, through conditioning. And these conditioned lessons are not articulable or representable, because they happen to us at a level that is more basic, fundamental, and primitive than the means of representation. On the other hand, what we learn in this way comes to us in ways that are not subject to arbitrary impositions of our conscious theorizings and imaginations. -- "How do I know that the world exists?" some wonder, but we learn that pre-consciously, and in terms that can't be reduced to the sentence "The world exists," because the means of representation distort reality. But we "know" this before we learn language, and the doubts about it arise as a consequence of the artificiality of language as a means of representation. -- And so on, and so on. -- Language, and representation more generally, distort reality, but only marginally. (If I explained that to you I'd have to kill you. Actually, avoiding this saves this from becoming a 300 page document.) A hint for those who have read Locke's Essay: Locke's notion of "sensitive knowledge" only works in the subconscious, and that's why it fails as an argument when it's articulated in language. -- Postmodernism is an intellectual cancer. It takes the limitations of the human intellect, and tries to assert that these are adequate to justify a radical skepticism. On the contrary, our learning that occurs outside the domain where bias and arbitrariness are possible is more reliable than that which occurs within adult subjectivity, even if it evades representation in linguistic arguments that turn out to be evasive as a pinched watermelon seed. --The human intellect is a marvelous tool, but it can't easily step outside itself and explain itself. It is arrogant to assume too much of it, but it is just as arrogant to use its limitations as a justification for claiming that objectve truth doesn't exist. -- We can't possess absolute truth, but that doesn't mean we have no objective truth -- Postmodernism is shit. Just an excuse for those who want to deny truth when truth interferes with what they want to believe.

[@richardcarr7702]

The Importance of... (What?)

[@bipolatelly9806]

Please note. Revising history is very important during a fakedemic.

[@jamesherold8655]

Do we not have the technology to create fresh water from sea water and pipe it to the drought area possibly use solar power to create steam and steam to create electricity there might even be a bonus in the minerals that are separated the employment created by this would help with the economy now would be the time to see how you could do it

[@timmychang1791]

What happens when u have a multiculturalism society which just means all cultural are equal. Just like communism when practice becomes toxic. What do u mean one cant judge or criticize another culture, has humanity reach perfection. Here in reality culture freezes n creates a bubble, we all know bubbles burst at sometime. So shitty culture inflates itself-others help glorify it. Guess what, cultures that lag the skills n knowledge to to generate productive citizen lags further behind. This bs that all culture/group/people/ are equal stems directly from equality of outcome. Everything must be equally represented to the ratio of the group represented. Show me one such scenario in nature then i become the # 1 disciple of communist. Am still waiting for the example of equality of outcome in nature. Mean while, the belief that somehow if equality of outcome are not to achieve, rest assure its not internal its external forces at play. Never mind there are no visual signs of such externality, because its systemic, its micro aggression, its everywhere because its racism. Now, triggers Snow ball effect. In as so much one believes its failure are not internal, external solutions r sought n further complicates the matter. Such that external problem needs external solution which any is just superficial. The conclusion r obvious, humanity are abstract n operates in an abstract world. When one take away the internal drives of humanity. That human lies waste because no longer operates with autonomy, hence one triumphantly extracts freedom away unconsciously to the victim. Remaining to defend its failure takes on bizarre forms n behavior, because everyone else are to blame for their failure.

[@vinodvirkud6019]

In the end it revealed his unscientific mind about climate change quoting a study made in 1950.

[@egl626]

Not true. He was pointing out how the 'science' had changed over time.

[@vinodvirkud6019]

@@egl626 you seem to have forgotten he said that climate change has to be debated ,equally old Noam chomsky knows better

[@vinodvirkud6019]

He said climate change has to be debated, Noam chomsky who is equally old knows better, debatable was also the word he used when he was reminded of the atrocity where justice was restored against aborigines by overturning the verdict

[@vinodvirkud6019]

Debatable was also used by him when reminded of a court case where the atrocity was committed against aborigines

[@vincentanguoni8938]

Unifying narrative... Oxymoron

[@BobBob-cn1yy]

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[@ralphmalph6824]

KZbin, I've disliked. Now please don't assume I'll enjoy watching this tripe later.