Avatar 2 Passes Force Awakens For The #4 All Time Box Office Spot

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Jamie Martin - Greetings from Ireland! Hey John & Crew, did you guys see over the weekend that Avatar surpassed Force Awakens as the fourth highest grossing movie at the box office? I just find it really funny the people still trying to make this movie out as a flop. Do you think there is more of a possibility of it beating Titanic at the third spot? Thanks and bring on the filthy.
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[@jamiemartin6603]

Thanks guys for talking about my topic today. Made my day 😊

[@xlinnaeus]

Hi Jamie!

[@mikefromireland]

Another Irishman here. Great question man

[@markbo0121]

My brother was one of the lead environmental artist for Avatar 2. He mentioned, They knew it would do well, however everyone is surprised at how well it was received. Cameron is a cinematic genius!

[@dahhmlife]

When the lady next to me in the theater started sobbing uncontrollably during the last scene I knew this was going to be huge. It's a VERY effective film. James Cameron is incredibly skilled at what he does, and none of it is an accident.

[@kendallandrews8691]

Yeah a shame he hasn't directed more movies. Only avatar and its sequel since Titanic. Meanwhile Spielberg is making "look at me" garbage.

[@AWSVids]

The key to box office gold in the 21st century is to have Zoe Saldana in your movie, and a title that starts with "Av".

[@r.j.w7924]

Can't argue with anything you wrote right there lol.

[@rainflowers1099]

That's the formula haha

[@alanguages]

Ava: Average and Available - Starring Zoe Saldana Just have to write the block buster script, since the title is already established.

[@zbonkers]

James Cameron is such an enigma. He did not only direct 3 of the top 4 highest grossing films of all time but each movie was an Acadamy Award best picture nominee as well. To put it in perspective, out of the 10 ten grossing films only the 3 James Cameron movies have that distinction. Out of the 20, it is only joined by Top Gun: Maverick and Black Panther.

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

The answer to how he works is quite funny. The only thing he does is wait for an empty seating during a winter and creates what was known as spectacle back in the day. Regardless of the use of cgi, it’s reliant on showing an audience something that’s been created with a modicum of thought. It’s about a creature’s place amongst nature, but unlike a lot of its contemporaries, it doesn’t slap a load of half-finished CGI in the frame for no reason. It has its own topology, trivia etc. it’s a universe. It’s not a universe in that “the films are connected” like Marvel and Godzilla, it’s a universe in that it’s a thriving place that’s been created by artists. If you look at it, films that take place in a universe have their flaws within how the films connect together. Civil War is massively flawed when you bring in what happened beforehand. Endgame is flawed when you bring in the Civil War history etc. Warner Bros can’t even make a universe without swapping pieces in and out when they don’t need to be. The Godzilla series has three films that connect and Godzilla Vs Kong that feels nothing like the others. And these are the Only Successful universe movies. Avatar is its own universe in that it has moving parts that connect. The films themselves are not the moving parts.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

@@TheFlash-rh2el Avatar sold over 8 million copies on bluray (and over 10 million on DVD) in the US. No other movie since 2009 has topped its sales. In fact, I think Avatar is like somewhere in the top 5 of most sold movie on home video of all time. Trust me, this movie is well loved or else people wouldn't have rushed out to buy it. Endgame sold like 3.8 million copies and Force Awakens couldn't even top it with 5.3 million. No blockbuster movie gets release side by side with another. You'll never see Jurassic Park next to a Marvel movie, for example. Everyone knows this.....the producers, all of them, want their big movies to take in the potential cash. If Avatar was going to flop, it would have flopped whether it released at Christmas or the summer....man people always just reach out of their ass.

[@starwarsfan9575]

James cameron is not in the mount rushmore of directors… because he is looking down on them from space

[@MsMSB2012]

He's god now.

[@Kusanagikaiser999]

To me, James Cameron is in the Mount Rushmore of directors, along with Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Martin Scorsese, George Lucas, Ridley Scott and many other masters of their craft, this man have never failed to give us something amazing, Since the Original Terminator to Avatar the Way of Water is just banger after banger, he earned our trust and this is why despite you don't see many you tubers making content about Avatar the same way they do for the MCU or DC, how many times we have seen people saying they will support anything these 2 does, and eventually just not even go and watch it....while if James Cameron is directing a project, everyone knows you will get something special and this is why we support everything this man does because you never get his 20%, 70%, 55% no, when Jimmy Cameron do a film he goes 10000% IN and you feel every damn frame was cared to perfection or not get out to the public, reason I will laugh when Disney realize that 2024 may not have an Avatar film if James says.............it could look BETTER XD....mark my words 🤣....And the crazy thing is, we will wait happily. So I know we say no chance in hell Avatar will catch to Endgame...........but..........at this point.........I will not bet against Cameron if it does XD.

[@ramlozano]

Can't get enough of Avatar Vids

[@joneau261]

James Cameron now has three of the four highest grossing films of all time where a protagonist turns blue

[@leonardopribic2661]

Hahhaha! That was cold!

[@andrescarnederes2295]

@@leonardopribic2661 Quite literally hehehehehehhehehe

[@leonardopribic2661]

@@andrescarnederes2295 You are either born blue, or by the end, you turn blue ;). I feel the natural progression (after Avatar) for Cameron is to tackle The Smurfs.

[@blurtam188]

James Cameron absolutely should be on the top 10 directors all time list!!

[@KeenApollo]

@@btafbm both avatar films are amazing. But your opinion is yours I guess

[@Detroit_Dawg]

Avatar, Titanic, The Terminator, Terminator 2, The Abyss, Aliens, True Lies.....yeah, he's on my Mt. Rushmore! 👍🏽👍🏽

[@theechosenone4471]

Didn’t think it was gonna flop but over 2b is insane😭

[@randomly_random_0]

this is J A M E $ C A M E R O N we're talking about

[@rocked30]

A big part of James Cameron's success is he makes pirated proof movies. What I mean by this is even if someone releases a good quality cam movie online it doesn't matter. It makes no difference because his movies are a must see 3D experience in the theaters.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Ohhhhh man, this made me LMFAO. Spot on and well said!

[@benm5970]

I think the reason James Cameron is the amazing director that he is is that he knows how to deliver a truly great moviegoing experience through pure raw thrills, I know there’s a lot of pretentious “Intellectuals” out there who think that the only sign of quality in movies is when they’re made with these deep, complex themes and ideas but that’s not how it is at all, and I love James Cameron because he completely pisses on those peoples’ beliefs, movies like Terminator or Aliens aren’t super deep or anything but he knows how to deliver a great moviegoing experience through pure excitement, he recognizes that a great moviegoing experience doesn’t just involve walking away from it pondering this deep question about the world around you or anything, he likes to just let people walk out of his movies going “Oh my god that was so cool” I’m glad we still have filmmakers like him that still maintain giving us great movies that are still fun action movies and don’t feel like they have to be Christopher Nolan type stories in order to be good

[@notoyaarthur1990]

Thank u! U r spot on. It annoys me to no end when film snobs complain that the plot was done b4, as if we can't name about a dozen other movies that all have the same or similar plots. It happens sometimes. What people neglect to mention is that Cameron was sitting on this movie for decades b4 he was actually able to make it, so it makes sense that by the time it came out, the plot had already been recycled a few times. But that doesn't detract from the visual masterpiece of the film and the incredible world building and cinematography. Because what Cameron has been able to create is visually spectacular and groundbreaking, regardless of the simplicity and familiarity of the plot. The simple story allows u to get engrossed in the film and story easily while ur mind appreciates the visuals. And like u said, it's just an amazing movie going experience! These movie snobs seem to forget that some people go to the movies simply to be entertained and have fun. They don't always want some deep intellectual subplot. Sometimes less is more. I've been completely bored to tears by some films that do too much or require too much introspective thought. A movie doesn't always need a deep plot to be good, and Cameron has certainly found the formula that allows him to comfortably tow the line of interesting story that is both engaging and entertaining.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Exactly.....all these people are CLEARLY on IMDB. Just look at all the films that are the highest rated. The Godfather, The Godfather part II, Shawshank Redemption, Inception, The Dark Knight, Pulp Fiction, Goodfellas, etc etc

[@Silentsilo987]

Kinda blows my mind that James Cameron wouldn't be considered one of the "Greats." Aliens, T2, Titanic...significant cultural impact. And he's, by far, the most commercially successful...he's doing *something* right.

[@isaacbeeby2528]

Can one film about water directed by James Cameron overtake another film about water directed by James Cameron?

[@HpArtcraft]

Guys...seriously. Passing Titanic is not a question lol. It'll do it by sundays end

[@nikitamohanan2124]

Ya but the Titanic re-release could beat it again. It has to make like 200 more than titanic to be safe in the 3rd spot.

[@simbaking6338]

@@nikitamohanan2124 We dont know how good the Titanic re-release will be...as Titanic wasnt really made for the kind of technology that was used on Avatar, especially Avatar 2.

[@nikitamohanan2124]

@@simbaking6338 how much did Avatar re-release make this year back in September??? I know Titanic doesn't have that kind of technology but it is a best picture and multiple Oscar nominated film made on an epic sweeping scale. People would be interested to watch it in IMAX 3D.

[@nikitamohanan2124]

@@simbaking6338 And the kind of technology that was used on Avatar did not even exist or wasn't needed for a film like Titanic so God knows why on earth you are trying to put Titanic down or patronize it saying "it wasn't made for the technology of Avatar". Like I'm sorry dude, but not only does that make no sense but I wasn't really talking about THAT! I thought it was obvious and basic common sense that I meant that if it beats Titanic's box office by only 50 million or even 100 million, it may not be sufficient to maintain that #3 spot for long and might go back to #4 when Titanic re-releases

[@gudhaxer41343]

@@simbaking6338 Titanic made roughly 350mil last time it got a worldwide re-release lol, dont underestimate it.

[@machomb]

I just love how haters were saying "avartar 2 will barely hit 1$bill", and I saw at least 15 articles predicting it would be a flop. xD Get fucking shit on! Lmao I'm rly enjoying the haters crying.

[@fxc06066]

They said the same thing about Titanic and the first Avatar.

[@petersonofleo11]

Reddit and Twitter users are so out of touch. Betting against James Cameron is so stupid.

[@KikiLivesInMe]

I think it’s the demographic. Avatar is primarily more popular outside of the US. People who felt the footprint of this franchise aren’t the normal Marvel or Star Wars followers. And those people are loud. I’m generalizing here but this type of fan base are basically the ones hating on Avatar. Talking about a simple and used plot in the movies but simultaneously creaming themselves for Top Gun 2.

[@bonzobonanza]

Avatar's demographic is also people outside social media who aren't chronically online

[@TurdBoi-tf5lf]

Exactly

[@daporkoil1]

I finally went to see it and the theatre was almost full, I was surprised at the amount of people there. I think it’s definitely entering the top 3.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

where you from?

[@Maya_Ruinz]

I should probably go this before it leaves cinema

[@glavid_daze]

My dude was right, "I'm the King of the world! 👏

[@DJ118USMC]

Yes! Well done Avatar! It just keeps on going. Reminds me a lot of the original Avatar, though Way of Water won't be in theatres for as long. Huge fan of these films. There is not doubt that the other films will also hit and pass 2 billion dollars at this point, especially with theatres getting closer and closer to their pre-pandemic levels. Not sure why anyone would be rooting against these films. The more successful they are the better it is for us audience members it just shows that studios that non established IP's can bring in lots of money. Hopefully that will mean directors and studios willing to direct and back original IP's and bring some more fresh content to the big screens! Avatar is so unique and so well thought out as far as world building in concerned. There is no planet ever conceived that is as richly detailed as Pandora (Not even in Star Wars)! The world is so immersive and the characters feel so relatable while also being very unique and the fact it doesn't touch on any one race since they are alien. Anyone can easily insert themselves into the world and relate with it. This is why these films has been so successful. It touches on themes that we can all relate to and understand no matter who or where your from. I don't understand why Avatar gets so much dislike for a "Basic" story when thousands of extremely popular films have "basic" stories as well. Again having a simple story doesn't make the film bad and in Avatars case it helps it connect with a broader audience which is one of the reasons it is so successful. Avatar also has many very unique elements which are overlooked or made fun simply because critics don't understand them or they are afraid of ridicule. "What, you like 10ft tall space smurfs?". Avatar is all about being open to one another and connecting and that seems to be something that us as humans are starting to lack or loose as we continue to evolve in an ever more technological world. As we watch these film we can all feel connected without having to expose ourselves to criticism. We remember that people like to connect and it's not a weakness nor something to be made fun of but something to be embraced and that is Avatars greatest message. Don't be afraid of who you are, don't be afraid to open yourself up to others and understand new viewpoints and connect!

[@eladreltuc]

Also it's a post pandemic Movie. It has been hard for movies to do well financially in theatres since lockdowns were lifted a while back.

[@Obez45]

James Cameron: I came, I saw, I conquered.

[@lucypagano2454]

Avatar 4 or 5 will make 3 billion

[@simbaking6338]

Avatar 2 will pass Titanic for 3rd spot.

[@Swannyjoe464]

I watched it for the second time last night and the theaters are reasonably full.

[@mistere6871]

Cant wait for 3 4 and 5!!!

[@AustinBeeman]

Can we now say the James Cameron is the greatest Hollywood director of all time?

[@dblan23]

He's the king of the woooooorld

[@loooooooooby]

Nah. Stick with "most profitable". No disrespect to him, but I don't think that honor does or should belong to just one person. Putting him on Mt. Rushmore is fine. Up there with Spielberg, Scorcese, and...someone else.

[@ahorsewithnoname773]

Probably Steven Spielberg if you measure by a combo of awards & lifetime gross.

[@JFadel]

What? The audacity to not include Cameron in the Mount Rushmore of greatest filmmakers 👎👎 His films are damn masterpieces. The fact that we dismiss him cause he’s so successful? Sad. What more does this man have to do.

[@masonteague4039]

I bet it'll pass titanic in 3rd spot next

[@TheMellowMutantShow]

The big question is, will it be the first film in history to cross $3 billion? 🤔

[@garyhyatt8079]

As a technocrat, filmmaker Cameron is second to none. The innovators that stand out to me are George Melies, Orson Welles, Ray Harryhausen, George Lucas and James Cameron. Lucas will be remembered for Star Wars of course but history will mostly shine on what he had to do with both sound and visuals to make those films happen. Cameron's the kind of man not content to just make a "Titanic" film, his curiosity eventually drove him to go down to the bottom of that part of the ocean to actually check out the real thing. That kind of curiosity and entertainment visuals are what drive people to Cameron films, he's trusted to make his films look and feel real. Those men changed movie making on a technical level, especially sci-fi and fantasy films with amazing leaps forward. There are more game changers I'm leaving out and apologize for missing 'em. Just a fan after all. I still don't share Rob's trust in Cameron's storytelling skills quite as much though. The most daunting story to pull off was Titanic which starts with class struggle, moves to love story, veers to adventure then bitter sweet tragedy. Considering the length of the film, all those stops and the horrific real life events which made the story delicate, I wouldn't blame any producer if they threw a director out of their office for even suggesting such a thing. That screenplay could easily have been a mess, so I've got to have faith in Cameron's 4 quadrant appeal. However, I still believe It's the curiosity factor and amazing innovation that sell his films in such a wild way.

[@feonjun]

Avatar 3, 4 and 5 are coming out in the near future! LOL!

[@jimsmith5687]

Glad to see Disney SW defeated. What a horrible waste of money to buy that franchise and then turn it against its core audience.

[@tronam]

Not to worry MCU nerds, you'll have your time in the sun soon enough. In a few weeks all we'll be talking about is Quantumania. In the meantime let us Avatar fans relish in these last few moments; We patiently waited 13 years for it. :)

[@blackpanda7612]

Quantumania won't even make a 3rd of what EndGame did. Superhero fatigue is setting in for many folks.

[@millabasset1710]

@@blackpanda7612 It will make $700,000+ WW Ant Man movies have never done spectacular numbers.

[@tronam]

@@millabasset1710 I hope it does better than that. Its budget looks a bit heftier than any previous Ant-Man film.

[@ronaldgallant9773]

We are gonna have to wait for the 2 next avengers to take on avatar 2

[@tronam]

@@ronaldgallant9773 As an also-MCU fan I just hope Phase 4 hasn’t made general audiences feel a little apathetic toward superhero movies. If they build it up right maybe we’ll be able to see another Endgame level finale again in the future.

[@rogerroper6769]

Gone past StarWars....nearly 50yeeeears of history and fans!!

[@SecondTake123]

😂😂

[@mezmerized4lifejay654]

Everyone say goodbye to Star Wars in the Top 5 👋😂

[@TheFlash-rh2el]

This news makes me sad that Fox was bought by Disney.

[@thelonewolf2929]

It still is in the top 5😭

[@NMGSmashYT]

If Avatar 2 made 2 Billion. That’s means that Avatar 3 will hit 2 Billion as well. As well as Avatar 4 & 5 too.

[@lees8359]

Hope they get better and better than the 2nd one then it's a high chance.

[@QuantumCosmos2.0]

If Avatar 3 is better it will reach 3 Billion Dollars!

[@QuantumCosmos2.0]

@@Rishi123456789 Especially when you think of the fact that Sequels is Cameron's Territory and he is the Emperor of Sequels!

[@curtisbme]

I'd put money on it being more like star wars sequels. First one had a lot of build up and was huge. Ones after that did well but not as well.

[@lucypagano2454]

@@curtisbme no.. because the last jedi and the the last star wars movies were really bad. That's why they did not make a lot of money

[@phosimmie]

One of the next Avatar films will make 3 Billion Dollars

[@_TheViewer_]

Would be interesting, but still I could see it. Depending on the movie number 3 of course 😂 But hard to believe that he could make the third strike

[@blackpanda7612]

Have my bets on Avatar 4. According to people in the know and even Cameron himself, the 4th one is said to be biblical in scale and scope.

[@KeenApollo]

@@blackpanda7612 don't get me even more hyped.

[@filmpopmovie]

Those looking for the Avatar footprint have to now realize they’ve been living in it.

[@TjMulyadi]

Titanic 3D will be released worldwide not just in U.S.

[@alexprinsrealestateagent1263]

I’ve seen it 9 times. I contributed to that number. Lol. Wonder how 3 will do. Cameron says 2 was just the lead up to the big story in 3 and 4.

[@gianthand8130]

I haven’t seen it yet

[@swirlingchi]

A3 has a good shot at cracking $3B with fully functioning China and hopefully Russia

[@Jamfogerty]

Zoe Saldana is in 4 of the top 6 movies, and if Way of Water surprases Titanic she will be on the top 3 movies

[@_TheViewer_]

That’s true

[@jackwitcombe765]

Thoughts and prayers with the marvel fans 🙏

[@matiasrocha317]

I think avatar 2 will pass Titanic this week .

[@Magdalena8008s]

I mean, I don't doubt James Cameron. Simple as that. Yeah, when you actually think about it in context to history, it's a massive achievement of filmmaking. It's impressive. And he's not done yet.

[@ultramarinechaplain88]

At this rate avatar 2 is going to hit 2.35-2.45 by the end. Its dropping only by 20-30% each week

[@killjanPL]

Maybe in a vacuum but in 2 weeks Ant-man will arrived. It will change Avatar's income. So it will land somewhere close to Titanic.

[@thelonewolf2929]

@@killjanPL Titanic will grow it's lead by then

[@adityasuke5212]

@@killjanPL 😂

[@wildwedding]

Avengers was doing 1.5M at week 6 saturday domestically and Avatar is doing 8M week 6 saturday. It will beat endgame, but might take until after the obvious 2024 re-release to do it. (because jimmy loves him some re-releases)

[@thelonewolf2929]

It's not going to pass Endgame. It's over 400 million away, and rereleases don't make a huge amount of money.

[@CAINtheBULL]

James Cameron is a legend. Period.

[@yusufchoudhury2959]

@@MaxxRemKing1 but most of us like good comic book movies. Forget phase 4 lol

[@delix787]

James fucking did it!! 💙

[@MrThmT]

What if all the Avatar sequels are great and maybe become better as they progress... what if the last one matches End Game and surpasses it. What if, the top 5 becomes Avater 1 3 4 5 2 x)

[@curtisbme]

Far more likely to follow the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Big pop for the first one and the later ones do well but not to the level of the first.

[@CocaPepsi21]

@@curtisbme I wouldn’t say so, Star Wars began to lose more and more because of its quality. If the visuals and story get better in each entry, then it has the possibility to make more money. This is James Cameron we’re talking about, atwow defined all odds stacked against it and blew everyone’s expectations. The MCU had a decade before endgame, so Avatar has just enough time to see where it’ll go so never doubt James Cameron. If he thinks Avatar 3 will top one and two, you just simply don’t doubt it period

[@ryanekana2042]

Why can't James Cameron be in the directing rushmore? Must he make a crime drama ? He invented tech to film movies and Martin Scors and Quick time are better without even a discussion?

[@MrFawaz2020]

If AVATAR 2 was 2 hours long, 3 billion guaranteed

[@avtechman77]

I wonder how many 3D tickets were sold? 3D is not dead

[@Lospolloshermanos616]

I saw it in 3D on accident😂 but it was really cool for a one time thing. Not a big 3D fan.

[@mikefarino4368]

3d is amazing when done right, the problem is 99% of movies don't. James Cameron does it right every time

[@avtechman77]

@@mikefarino4368 Exactly

[@outermarker5801]

Somewhere in the future, "....and the Cameron Award for best picture goes to..."

[@lukesmale24]

I'll be very surprised if another Star Wars movie makes $500 million ww

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Was never into Star Wars but I feel bad for the franchise and its fans for its death.

[@di5stargeneral]

All owned by Disney

[@deezee206]

nahh

[@johansvensson833]

Nope titanic is mostly paramount with like 30% fox

[@cryogenicheart2019]

Put Arnold Schwarzenegger in the next avatar and he can beat endgame

[@pavanjotsingh1578]

And make him say one line , get to the copper

[@gronagor]

Really? Arnold has his fans, but he's never been a boxoffice breaker.

[@stephanclemens2348]

Nahh...Disney might technichally hold the rights since they acquired Fox but that doesn't make them Disney Movies.

[@LukeLovesRose]

Fire and Ash will be just as big - IF NOT MORE

[@HeroicTurkey]

I love the avatar videos

[@sodeiku]

my question is, why not more studio doing what james cameron did , doing it all CGi with performance capture but streamline it, make it cheaper

[@royjones8312]

Not sure if you understand how numbers work but even if Avatar beats Endgame he will still “only” have 3 of the top 4 unless the Titanic rerelease nets it another 700 million.

[@gary094]

Avatar 3 will beat End Lame next year.

[@_TheViewer_]

Nah, can’t see that 😂

[@lucypagano2454]

@@_TheViewer_ it can, with Russia and no COVID restrictions

[@_TheViewer_]

@@lucypagano2454 Nah, still not doable, if the Franchise won’t step up. First movie had the new style and tech, but the second weren’t that much of a jump and wasn’t that hard hitting scripting-wise. Plus if that happens it happens for all other movies too, so Russia and Covid won’t be that much of a deal, even china isn’t that much of a deal if you break down the numbers for most movies

[@rl8259]

@@_TheViewer_ Take China out of Endgame it doesn’t come close to Avatar. Marvel is literally nothing without China even NWH couldn’t make 2 Billion without China

[@moviesmusic6936]

Endgame easily surpasses both avatar films

[@Xfile1947]

What’s the box office predictions for Titanic 25th Anniversary re-release? Avatar: The Way of Water predictions are $2.3B - $2.4B !

[@SecondTake123]

It will probably add 50 million but then again I may be wrong! Lol

[@johansvensson833]

worldwide 20-50 most likley

[@Xfile1947]

Even if Titanic 25th Anniversary makes additional $50M, Avatar: The Way of Water will be the #3 All Time Box Office!

[@_TheViewer_]

By now almost crazy, many cinemas in my city did reduced the shows already and seats aren’t fully booked anymore, but anyway good for Cameron, the Franchise and the Mouse. there’s so much from Cameron and Disney inside the top ten, unbelievable 🎉😂 But I’m good with more Avatar Lore, and if he really reach top three it would be nuts

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Well, it's awesome and all but adjusted for inflation it is a FAR cry from Avatar's $3.9B worldwide gross which is so ahead of anything else in modern day history it's inconceivable to think how anything will ever top it. The Way of Water is just around HALF that now. O_O

[@rl8259]

@@CJTranceAddiction The Sound of Music clears that lmao. That’s exactly why we don’t adjust for inflation. They didn’t have to compete with streaming

[@_TheViewer_]

@@rl8259 Plus different times mane, it’s nice that titanic still can be there without being in 2000‘s

[@rescuearch7802]

@@rl8259 "The Sound of Music" is not even close (by inflation-adjusted worldwide box office). The top ten all time (not counting "Avatar: The Way of Water", which is still climbing) in current dollars are: $4.1275B -- Titanic (1997) $3.7069B -- Gone With the Wind (1939) $3.2721B -- Avatar (2009) $2.8405B -- Avengers: Endgame (2019) $2.7408B -- Star Wars (1977) $2.3539B -- E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1976) $2.3058B -- Jurassic Park (1993) $2.1853B -- The Force Awakens (2015) $2.1014B -- Jaws (1975) $2.0031B -- Avengers: Infinity War (2018) "Avatar: The way of Water" is already on this list, we need to wait to see its final position. I would guess between "E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial" and "The Force Awakens". "The Sound of Music" is at $1.3047B in inflation-adjusted worldwide box office, a long way down the list.

[@_TheViewer_]

@@rescuearch7802 Still haven’t see Titanic til today, but yeah, good list

[@keanunelson27-5]

Well titanic is a collaboration between Paramount and 20th Century Fox (Studios) and Disney.

[@owenyoumans5597]

I bet both of those Avengers films coming up will get in the top 10 box office

[@darkmatter5424]

I hope it surpasses super overrated Endgame just to piss off the naysayers. 😅

[@gaminggods110]

Wish it would too, but that's impossible at this point, unless they rerelease it in China & the world next year.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

@@Rishi123456789 well said lol

[@mellowourld7608]

What people dont think about is the technolagy leep, timing, and the park in florda.

[@sammhy3264]

The last time titanic came out a second time it made a historic box office hit 😅

[@przemysawdobrzynski2590]

Titanic is getting re-release in February so I don't think Avatar 2 will surpass it until Avatar 2 will get re-release.

[@alanguages]

Avatar 2 will likely pass Titanic briefly. Maybe a few days, then Titanic's re-release will beat Avatar 2. The first Avatar 2 re-release will beat Titanic again. The score will be: (Avatar 2) (Titanic) 2 1

[@smakermanster]

The real question now is whether or not this makes James Cameron the greatest film maker of all time

[@Francescojg]

Depends on how you define filmmaker. He’s certainly made the most profitable and crowd pleasing films. But would we consider McDonalds the greatest restaurant of all time?

[@c17sam90]

@@Francescojg the difference is Cameron knows so much about the tech of filmmaking he counts as the greatest because he understands the mechanics of every department on that set

[@a.d8509]

@@c17sam90 Geroge lucas was making entire digital worlds and characters in the prequels and he was called lazy, Cameron does it in 2009 instead of 1999 and he's called revolutionary, double standards.

[@c17sam90]

@@a.d8509 Lucas never really embraced motion capture that’s the difference he did it as traditional animation. Lucas didn’t do movement capture until episode 3 and Jackson and Cameron had already done it. And more importantly he didn’t help develop the tech in the same way.

[@c17sam90]

@@a.d8509 I don’t think anyone ever said completely digital worlds was revolutionary but rather the way it was done.

[@SecondTake123]

Go Canada! 🇨🇦🍁😂

[@nyambe]

Let’s hope Avatar 2 box office numbers put an end to Simplistic ideology narrative. It has been a plague

[@frezling2442]

It's pretty close already, I would be surprised if it didn't pass titanic unless it's drastically dropped off all of a sudden. Real question is if it's hitting #2

[@romainformet4346]

Perhaps the re-released of the Titanic will make it staying ahead of the avatar 2?

[@alanguages]

I can see Avatar 2 beat Titanic the 1st time, then the Titanic 25th anniversary re-release beat Avatar 2. Eventually a re-release of Avatar 2 beat Titanic for a 2nd time.

[@MiNuSThisDay]

To build off rob was saying my kid likes kid movies mostly.. but also loves AVATAR movies ..it’s for everyone

[@johnsalvi2273]

Titanic 2: the way of ice water

[@alexmelendez6732]

It can even possibly make 700 million in the states its got 80 million to go but if it keeps staying #1 its possible

[@CJTranceAddiction]

This is amazing and not trying to diminish Avatar 2 in any way. It's one of the greatest films I have ever seen. But reality is this: Titanic actually has $3.26B worldwide adjusted for inflation. So Avatar 2 is over one billion away. Those are crazy ticket sales. And the original Avatar has a WHOPPING $3.9B (so does Gone with the Wind, just edging Avatar out); those 2 being the biggest grossing films in existence. So in reality, Avatar 2 is nowhere close to the original Avatar and just goes to show just how HUGE the original movie was on a worldwide scale. I'd argue Titanic is STILL the greatest achievement in box office ever as it did those whopping numbers without 3D. It's WAY ahead of Avatar in terms of ticket sales.

[@rl8259]

No one adjusts for inflation you weirdo so everything you just said means nothing

[@CJTranceAddiction]

@@rl8259 Yeah, but you gotta admit....Avatar sold 90 million tickets in 2009 in the US compared to 128 million tickets from Titanic in 1997 in the US. Titanic was more embraced by the audience. I simply cannot and will not ignore these milestone stats.

[@rl8259]

@@CJTranceAddiction Different times different industries. Less people go to cinemas now than back in the day since we have more competition

[@CJTranceAddiction]

@@rl8259 Avatar vs Gone with the Wind I'd argee with you on, yes. Avatar vs Titanic is same case scenario. The fact that Titanic did what it did against television, home video and video games etc etc to compete with is unheard of. But same goes for Avatar, with less tickets sold hahaha.

[@briankelley7467]

Gone with the Wind will never be beat

[@TyrannosavageRekt]

Still not sold on how they calculate the inflation adjustment. They've got it pretty accurate comparatively for recent years, but their long-term calculations seem a little, well, off.

[@Bijigetah755]

Don't give wrong info .. After oscar will be Avatar 2 past Endgame...

[@tsenam3247]

Wow now all set to pass the endgame at box office🌹🌹🌹

[@rainflowers1099]

I don't think anyone compares to James Cameron when it comes to directing action scenes. The action scenes in Avatar 2 are brilliant.

[@Andy-li2px]

That was evident in terminator 2, the truck scene, his action sequences are outstanding...his vision is purely a gift from God himself..

[@ZulcanPrime]

I was impressed by the action scenes in The Terminator way back in 1984. That movie was a low-budget film.

[@mashu1766]

Endgame was released twice so i think av2 will pass endgames original box office collection.

[@lawrencef8507]

lets see how Avatar 3 4 and 5 go!

[@alanguages]

Avatar 3 $3 Billion. Avatar 4 $4 Billion. Avatar 5 $5 Billion. Not likely, but for fun we will see.

[@BigZ-19]

@@alanguagesyou were wrong

[@alanguages]

How much did Avatar 3, 4 and 5 make then? You stated I was wrong as in past tense.@@BigZ-19

[@Randompersonfromnowhere]

Does AMC Alister and other movie theater subscription be spoke about? I know it was around for end game but most of these movies didnt the repeat customer that didnt cost them extra on top of $25 a month to rewatch a movie. Im sure people paid to rewatched movies before but now more and more people are doing that.

[@dramz1972]

James Cameron 🐐

[@witchingroom]

I'll only be impressed when it passes Morbius.

[@gergemini2993]

lets not let the elephant in the room pass us by.......not 1....not 1 A list action star is in Avatar.......yes there is a big name in Sigourney but she is no spring chicken anymore (with greatest respect to her) im a mega RIPLEY fan! ironically Matt Damon was supposed to be Jake Sulley but he turned it down due to committment to Bourne series! he has NEVER lived that one down :) lol JAMES CAMERON is the GREATEST filmmaker in history!

[@notoyaarthur1990]

I mean there's an argument to be made for Zoey Saldana. She may not be Oscar acclaimed like a Anne Hathaway or Jennifer Lawrence, but she's definitely a well known name from the younger generation of actors.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

EVERYTHING works out for a reason. MY god I cannot picture Matt Damon for this role fuckkk. Thank god it ended up being Sam.

[@ToasteeShorts]

Plus Titanic is having a rerelease. So it does not matter at this point.

[@MatiZ815]

All movies in the top 3 had rereleases.

[@AWSVids]

Even with the re-release, I think Avatar 2 will still end up ahead of Titanic when all is said and done.

[@landonhulett2119]

Well. it's official, James Cameron is the GOAT. Second to Steven Spielberg.

[@CJTranceAddiction]

Speilberg has like 5X more movies than Cameron. Cameron has like, what? Under 10 movies compared to Speilberg's 30+??? And yet Cameron, out of 10, has like 3 in the top 5. Altogether grossing over $7B. That's about as much as the entire Jurassic Park franchise lol.

[@frankymizzle7531]

Kang Dynasty & Secret Wars will both be in the Top 10 when it’s all said & done

[@lucypagano2454]

And so will Avatar 3, 4 and 5

[@johansvensson833]

top 10 yes top 5 nope

[@Stark7Ghost]

Probably yes, but doubt they'll get in top 5. Marvel has lost its quality in phase 4 and the hype has been dropping. So if they want those movies to perfom, they need to do a lot better in phase 5 and 6.

[@BoyDanny93]

In your fucking dreams!!! Avatar and Endgame won't be top globally by any movie anytime soon.

[@jakeattic]

2:47 😂😂😂😂

[@dgurlie-0273]

I mean, he’s right. If Endgame didn’t have any of that, it wouldn’t be in the $2 billion club.

[@WilliamJames48]

Force Awakens did that well? One reason, Harrison Ford, then they killed him off smh.

[@ahorsewithnoname773]

There was a massive amount of hype for The Force Awakens before launch because it was the first Star Wars movie since the prequels and because some beloved characters from the original trilogy were returning. On top of that it was getting really good reviews, and still in fact has high critic (93%) and audience (85%) scores on Rotten Tomatoes. In retrospect I think a lot of what went wrong with the sequel trilogy was because of the foundation TFA built, so I don't think it's a great Star Wars film, but the hype and the fact that it did go over well with most people is why it there was a lot of ticket sales. Speaking of hype, The Phantom Menace also broke a bunch of box office records when it released despite getting a lot of poor critical reviews and largely being disliked by fans who grew up wiith the original trilogy films. Franchise films sometimes have the benefit of doing very well at the box office despite mixed critical and audience reactions, because they also ride on the excitement generated by previous films.

[@alterdres]

The movie official beat skyfall now at Dutch Boxoffice and i think we already can say it beat first Avatar also with movie stil running. 1. The Lion King 2019 (33 million) 2. Avatar 2 (27) 3. Avatar (27) 4. Skyfall (25) 5. Bohemian Rhapsody (25) 6. NTTD (24) 7. Spectre (22) The first 3 and NTTD are also take money from 3D views, means possible something between 1,5-2million views whyle from 2D only movie''s you say 1,8-2 million views or more. Cinema ticket 11.50-14,50 for 2D viewings and 17,00 for 3D (or 4D in case of Avatar 2). Harry Potter 6 back in 2009 was runner up with 17 million and in 2022 it is Top Gun 2 with 18 million followed by a Spider-Man movie (13 million).

[@johansvensson833]

not even close to becoming nr 1 i sweden that is mamma mia with 24 million dollars

[@CJTranceAddiction]

That's pretty crazy. I guess it speaks a lot about Avatar just being popular enough EVERYWHERE. Mamma Mia is #1 in your country without it being that popular anywhere else really. Every country is so different in tastes yet Avatar is something that is appealing everywhere. It's probably at least like on average top 5 in every single country in the entire world. Same with Titanic.

[@davidyolchuyev2905]

8:38 Rob starts here

[@CJTranceAddiction]

It'll beat Titanic before Feb 10th but I have a feeling Titanic could pull in another $200 million worldwide if it's in the theatres long enough. The 2012 release in 3D grossed $350 million O_O

[@alanguages]

Like your post, I can see Avatar 2 beat Titanic, then Titanic re-release beat Avatar 2 within the month of February. Yet, Avatar 2 re-release Director's edition will beat Titanic for a 2nd time. Just strange James Cameron competing against himself in that way.

[@alanguages]

Well, our guesses didn't happen. Titanic re-release bumped up in time to prevent Avatar 2 from beating it. Avatar 2 might still beat Titanic though by the end of February.

[@adityasuke5212]

@@alanguages it already 😂lol A2 surpassess Titanic 😂

[@alanguages]

@@adityasuke5212 The guess, was Avatar 2 was going to beat Titanic before it's re-release by February 10th. It didn't happen. Avatar 2 would have beaten Titanic a week ago, if Titanic did not have it's re-release. Avatar 2 did beat Titanic by the end of February though. At this point though, Avatar 2 beating Endgame is too far off, on Avatar 2's first run. It would need over $500 Million to do so. Edit: Read the op's op about predicting A2 beating Titanic by Feb.10th.

[@adityasuke5212]

@@alanguages A2 can't surpass endgame because this is after pandemic situation market recovers only 80% throughout the world but 2 biggest markets such as china and Russia have problems of COVID and war situation !!! 💀 A2 didn't release in Russia because of war and also covid in China 😭!!! Just compare A2 with endgame without Russia and China box office then see !!! 💀 Without Russia and china Avatar 2 >>>>>Endgame 😂