How to Make a CNC Spoilerboard

[@TheJonkilleen]

Fantastic series John. My 1515 is due in about 3 weeks and the butterflies have already arrived. Great to see you going step by step through the process and doing such a good job of it.

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks. I’m glad you have found it useful. I’m. Sure you will have a lot of fun with the kit

[@IanStreten]

Hi John. Looking to buy a Workbee CNC Router. Spent the evening viewing your series of videos. Very informative & certainly a very well uncluttered explanation of how to & not do the assembly of one of Ooznests Units. Thank you.

[@JohnClothier]

That’s great. Glad they were helpful. It’s a brilliant piece of kit. I’m so happy to have one.

[@MrVincenzogallizzi]

Hi John, it's a really detailed video . Well done! Is the router a good choice, or is it better to buy a spindler? Thank you

[@UnquendorGuitars]

Hi John, Wonderfull series. You're getting quite proficient with the CAD software. Nice Job. Great series. Can't wait to see some 3D work.

[@JohnClothier]

Hi Daniel. Thank you so much. The Vectric software is very user and beginner friendly for sure.

[@wagsman9999]

Wonderful. Thanks. I have a lot to learn.

[@JohnClothier]

You and I both mate

[@bernieclark7143]

Hi John I noticed you posted this 3 yr ago, what is your thoughts on the machine I am about to place an order for the exact same machine as you have All the best Bernie

[@iancullen6303]

hi John great video what inserts did you use and where did you get them from ? have you got a part number regards ian

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks. I got them from Screwfix

[@markwmscym]

When inserting the Threaded insert underneath the spoiler board, is there a chance they could be loosened when securing (screwing) a clamp on the top of the spoiler board? Are there a particular threaded insert that would avoid this from happening?

[@JohnClothier]

It is technically possible but it’s not happened to me yet. I think the grip against the mdf is very secure

[@markwmscym]

@@JohnClothier thanks for your speedy reply John. Much appreciated

[@markwmscym]

I have another question John - My workbee is the 1000mm x 750mm version. Advised spoiler board size is 610mm x 1000mm, which I have cut and am ready to fix. The work area is 520mm x 770mm. So after surfacing the spoil board there will be a small step around the border of the spoil board. This just doesn’t sit right with me as I might have a job that requires the work piece to be clamped just outside the work area. Then again I could change the orientation of the work piece. Have you found this to be an issue?

[@JohnClothier]

I have the exact same issue. My solution is to raise the workpiece on some scraps. Far from ideal though.

[@senseinathan1]

Hi John. I have watched all of your videos on setting up the workbee, I just got the z1+, I have been trying to copy your spoiler board but I’m getting a milling time of 14 hours. Looks like my feed rate is way out but how do I figure out a better feed rate? Can you share your end mill settings please?

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks. ITs tricky to get right. A few have said the same. My machine is packed up at the moment so I cant get to it to check.

[@carlohansen2380]

Hey John. I'm thinking about buying a workbee for guitar making. Have you put yours to use for this yet and how did it go? I'm wondering if 750x750 enough or if 1000x750 would be better. A video of your experiences would be fantastic.

[@jamesevans4919]

Why do you use 57mm offset for the spacing on the holes why not 50mm ?

[@frederickday7600]

Hello John. Good and interesting series. Can a laser head be added to this machine? Regards Frederick

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks. Yes you can. People have certainly done it

[@mattivirta]

yes can, many use spindle cut wood, or laser carve wood or vinyl knife cut vinyl or leather, or pencil draw picture.

[@AndyJenkins999]

You won’t be the first nor the last to run the bit straight through the material I done it loads of times. Good video thanks. I’m guessing some sort of peg system for holding guitars bodies and parts?

[@JohnClothier]

Lol no I’m sure. Thanks. Glad you liked it. Yep you pretty much got it.

[@tel71milton]

Where do you download the Workbee control panel? I only have access to the duet web controller just now. I have just built my machine and the spoiler board arrives tomorrow so I should be making my first attempt at a cut soon

[@JohnClothier]

im not sure there is a control panel. its all web based. You would need to confirm that with ooznest

[@tel71milton]

@@JohnClothier I have been asking them. No reply yet. All I can find is the duet web controller and it doesn't seem to work. I am going to try the openbuilds controller connected by USB and see if I have any luck. I am using grbl files

[@douglaslopes1987]

Thank you very much for this awesome series. Sorry but I didn't understand quite right about the part you add the threaded inserts. How deep they are from the surface? I was worried that surfacing the spoilerboard would hit those inserts. Thanks

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks! Glad you found it useful. They were 8mm long and the board is 18mm so there was a bit of spare.

[@douglaslopes1987]

@@JohnClothier That's perfect, thank you very much for replying so quickly. Have a great week.

[@JohnClothier]

@@douglaslopes1987 No problem. You too

[@JohnClothier]

Correction, they were 13mm not 8

[@douglaslopes1987]

@@JohnClothier thanks John. By the way, what software you're using? I got the 1500x1500 and only then realized that their recommendations of software are quite expensive. And fusion removed cam features from the personal version this year. I saw that easel and freecad seem to be able to do the job but I was wondering if there are other tools that are worth considering. Or even if the paid software are really worth it even for a hobbyist. Cheers mate

[@gilesrudd9280]

Hi John, you said M6 x 13mm in the video. I read a comment on this thread and you said they are 8mm in length? I’m hoping to do similar and have found a pack of 50 in screwfix (M6x13mm) If you’d be able to confirm that would be great - I’m going to use 18mm MDF as the spoiler board...

[@JohnClothier]

That must have been it then. I got them from screw fix.

[@mackie1752]

Hi John, I'm looking to make this spoiler board for my new Workbee. I've followed the stages but my cutting time is coming up at 2 hours 22minutes and 57 seconds! Any ideas why it is saying it would take so long? Cheers. ... and thanks again for the Assembly guides - I found them the perfect accompaniment to the Oozenest manuals.

[@JohnClothier]

Thank you! I’m glad you found the videos useful. I’m sorry I’m not sure what it could be. Is it actually taking that long when you run the job?

[@mackie1752]

Not actually run it yet, planning to do it today. I’ve reduced the number of passes (mine was set for 8 and I see yours was 6) which has brought it down a bit (it’s and hour and something now)...I’ll let you know how it goes.

[@JohnClothier]

It might not take as long as it says. Mine often don’t.

[@mackie1752]

@@JohnClothier The job won’t even start as the head travels to the bottom left corner of the spoiler and I get an error saying G0/G1 outside machine limits...any thoughts? Should I click the ‘set x’ and ‘set y’ to make them 0?

[@mackie1752]

@@JohnClothier Setting x and y got the job started, but the cutting not in the expected alignment. I’m new to the whole process, think I need some basic principals guidance on using the Workbee controls to suss out the problem. It feels like the ooze nest videos assume quite a lot on knowledge and I need training 101...Any links to workbee basic training much appreciated. Thanks

[@hood5203]

When you center your files, hit F9 and that move your selection perfectly to the middle.

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks for sharing

[@markrichardson1171]

Could u plz help John looking at your Work position they are all minus when i home they are not can u plz help my understand why

[@articandy]

Hi John me again I’m just trying to cut my 8 mm holes and mine is saying a run time of 7 hours ish? This is my first time using my machine so probably done something wrong it’s a 1510. The job needed 20 columns and 15 rows regards Andy

[@JohnClothier]

I’d suggest looking at the feed and plunge rates for the tool. It shouldn’t take anywhere near that long

[@articandy]

@@JohnClothier ok thanks out of interest what do you set the passes too default was 200 when I reduced it too 1 it brought it down to 38 mins but a bit heavy with one pass I think?? Thanks again

[@donaldmackay6749]

Great job so far John. If that is as much as damage that you will to you spoil board then you are going to be golden. The first time I set my CNC up and turned it on for a test to flatten the spoil board, the CNC became possessed. Slammed down and ate through the spoil board and then and just started to moved laterally. It did no damage to the unit other than chew marks on the bed and the spoil board. It did trash the $200 bit quite nicely though. I have had my machine for six years now and have not had a repeat performance. The odd part is that I still have no idea what went wrong. I have used the same file many times since to resurface with no issues. Do you have all the files you need for a guitar yet? There is a project for quite a nice guitar neck on the Vectric website.

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks! I think they can be a little temperamental but that certainly sounds like you had a worse problem than me. At least I know it was my fault lol. Yes I am going to be making my own files. I will mainly be using the cnc for making templates as I still want to do a lot of it by hand.

[@IceCreams62]

Did you tram the router ?

[@JohnClothier]

A little but I need to dial it in still

[@baza210]

@@JohnClothier hi John, any tips on how to do this? My Workbee seems to be quite far off in terms of tramming. Thanks for the videos.

[@andrewcarey1348]

Hi John, used your videos to put together my 1500x 1500 machine, I couldn't have done it without you! I have the same question about the tramming, mine is only slightly off but I haven't a clue how to go about fixing it

[@IceCreams62]

@@andrewcarey1348 This kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKupgZSapL97a7M is a long tram routine but the results are great

[@iancullen6255]

Enjoyed very much thank you very informative I am always a bit mithered with flatness and level so I am always routinely using my small spirit level to check jobs why not make yourself regularly check jobs with a level???? Best wishes Ian Cullen

[@JohnClothier]

Thanks. Great idea!

[@iancullen6255]

@@JohnClothier you are very welcome

[@markwmscym]

Is one able to follow this process using Vecrtric Cut2D Pro?

[@JohnClothier]

Not sure sorry

[@mattivirta]

all vetric and art cam softwares have lot same tools and can make same. you need test.

[@mattivirta]

i need similar board make my first DIY cnc but i not have any software can make G-code to machine. can you make to me G-code ? my board size have 600x700, need 6mm holes all sheet. but first need home have left down, then left and down need fence holes, additional fence can srew this corner, 0,0 point offset 10,10 row space 100mm X corner and same Y corner/side. then move sheet 0,0 zero point to 20,20 (normal 0,0 point have this 20,20 point) and make 6mm holes all sheet space 50x50. ok, my machine have linuxcnc DIY worksheet need be 600x700. and if all this holes has made, need flip sheet and backside need make same 6mm hole 20mm pocket, ewery 6mm hole point same 6mm hole need make 8mm dia pocket 8mm deep . i use hammer nuts these. need little deep 3mm pocket ewery 6mm hole. then ready. i not can made G-code not have FREE software all not working my computer raspberry pi4 raspian linux OS. not have windows computer in home.

[@mattivirta]

sorry my english not good, i mean backside need make 20mm pocket deep 3mm and 8mm pocket deep 8mm and all hole full sheet 6mm hole, i use 20mm MDF 600x700mm. front/workside need fence screw holes 10mm sheet corner space 100mm X and Y left and down corner. backside have same pockets. i use hammernut M6 screw.