Good Jaguar games here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZWlmHavgNV9h7c
@johnpenguinthe3rd133 жыл бұрын
I played Motocross Championship on 32X a week before playing Supercross 3D on Atari Jaguar. I enjoyed Motocross Championship on 32X. Not saying it's the greatest game ever, but I really enjoyed it and played it for a very long time just having a fun time. But Supercross 3D on Jaguar? The first time I saw it's 10 frames per second I seriously said aloud "What the "BLEEP" is this?!?" and this is coming from someone who is very, VERY lenient on graphics and frame rate. The gameplay was horrible as well (go off the track just a tiny bit, you plummet to the floor). The worst part is that Supercross 3D for Jaguar was released some months AFTER Motocross Championship on 32X (which is a MUCH better Motorcross game running on the inferior 32X hardware, yet it plays and looks so much better) and Supercross 3D was released during very late holiday season of 1995... up against the Playstation and Saturn's first holiday season in the U.S. and was up against Playstation launch titles like Ridge Racer. From what I read about Atari behind the scenes (and it was absolute CHAOS during the Atari Jaguar years. To give one example: Allegedly, some Jaguar game testers were doing drugs on the job in the offices. If true, that might explain a lot of things), they knew they were going under by early 1996, so a lot of games were rushed out and they didn't care if they weren't fully functional / polished / finished. Supercross 3D definitely fits that since that game needs at least several months more of development.
@jacobbaranowski3 жыл бұрын
Let land on Jaguar, @JamesRalph @AVGN #AVGN
@peterjay58783 жыл бұрын
Love your bad game review vids. Awesome dude 👌👌👍 BTW I reckon a jaguar cart for the evercade would be AMAZING!!! With the ones from your good game reviews rather than these.... Okay, maybe one of these for comedic reasoning 👍👍
@syphon_98923 жыл бұрын
The first game looks like some badly designed Roomba Simulator
@Vulpas2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there *are* 5 good Jaguar games lol
@paulbigsby23873 жыл бұрын
You said it perfectly toward the end, “game was finished and rushed out the door.” That’s the formula that brought down Atari during the 2600 era, games that were finished within a few weeks and pushed out into the market. It’s why we never got to see what the Atari could really do until homebrew developers started making games. I’ll bet the Jaguar could do so much more than what we saw in the released library of games.
@The_Real_DCT2 жыл бұрын
The same can be said of any console really, a lot of homebrew developers have the benefit of time and better understanding of hardware plus programing techniques that programers couldn't even dream of back then. Plus with cart based systems larger ROM chips being cheaper to get than back then.
@paulbigsby23872 жыл бұрын
@@The_Real_DCT very true
@LeoDoesAllThis11 ай бұрын
It can also be said for the development of the 32X and 3DO versions of Doom, since both ports of that game were rushed pretty badly too. But that one is a whole different story.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
Just look at what they are doing with the 2600 nowadays. For those willing toput in the effort.... there is still gold in that little black kitty.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
@@LeoDoesAllThis You might have squoze another few frames a second or maybe a slightly bigger screen on the 32x but a real effort would required a rewite for the 32 from the ground up. No one was going to put in that kind of effort. From scratch, I think you could do even better for sure. The fact is the 32x version is hardly the worst version and is really quite good considering. It like most console ports of the time used the Jaguar version of the code was used(since it was the official and first console source from id themselves)if not ported directly, certainly for reference. It's really not that bad and hey.... it even has the music....not that this ever concerned me that the Jag did'nt...I was well sick of hearing the music from the PC version and turned music off even on the PC after a while.
@forrestwright73783 жыл бұрын
I debated about buying a Jaguar when it came out. I instead decided to expand my Genesis and SNES libraries. After watching this video, I believe I made the right choice.
@ressljs3 жыл бұрын
Overall, I'd say that was probably the right choice. I did by one as soon as they were out. It's unfortunate that there were so few games being release because for the first year and a half, it was kind of mind blowing. People scoff at it now, but Cybermorph, a free flying open world game in 1993 was a pretty big deal. And until the Saturn and Playstation came out, I couldn't keep people out of my dorm room because of Doom, Tempest 2000 and AvP. Heck, some of my friends even liked Trevor McFur.
@igorivanov2993 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed my Atari jaguar. Wish I never sold it all those years ago.
@markfostercrtgamer32013 жыл бұрын
Atariage is slowly building up the jaguar library. The jag can push pixels better than most any console. That should be focused on, imo. The polygon pushing is lacking.
@Hektols3 жыл бұрын
You had both Genesis and SNES? Congratulations, it was one of the best console combinations ever, you probably spent the Console Wars laughing at the fans of each system while you played great games.
@forrestwright73783 жыл бұрын
@@Hektols I wouldn't say that I laughed at them. I was a big Nintendo fanboy in the early 90s and bought a SNES as soon as it came out. But the Genesis had so many great games, and I really wanted to play a lot of them, so I caved in and bought one. I definitely supported both companies and got away from the "which system is better" nonsense that the fans got carried away with back then.
@Larry3 жыл бұрын
The Power Balls in Club Drive always reminded me of the everlasting gobstoppers from Willy Wonka :D But I swear it's a tech demo or unfinished game they shoved out the door. Atari did do that with, Fight for Life was another.
@johnhancockretro3 жыл бұрын
While Fight for Life was indeed broken, I enjoyed it haha.
@Larry3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhancockretro Oh yeah, Atari released an unfinished build as the creator refused to give Atari the finished game until they paid him! So they thought "screw it" and released it anyway! He released the final build a few years ago, it is a much better game!
@thefurthestmanfromhome11483 жыл бұрын
@@Larry I do wish you'd post both sides of a story when you give accounts like this Larry, you did it with Zero 5,going off a quote from Matthew Gosling, rather than getting Caspain Software bosses account and that of Darryl Still, Atari UK. Here's Atari Corps side of things: Statement from Don Thomas : FIGHT for LIFE To me, it seems like a decade since the Fight for Life project began. For a long time, Mr. Francois Yves Bertrand, it’s creator, worked in a cubicle next to mine at 1196 on Borregas Avenue. Every once in a while, Francois would invite to peer over the wall at his latest revisions and little by little I saw Fight for Life come together as if I were watching time lapse photography. Francois is an extremely talented individual. He initiated the project virtually on a single handed basis. As he developed the project, he solicited the talents of other wizards to help with some of the bit maps, texture maps and sound effects used in the game. By the time Francois was finished and submitted the final copy, the Fight for Life team was numerous, exhausted and proud… and they should be proud. Atari Corporation has always prioritized the famous “fun factor” over almost any other element in a game. The reason for this is because eye candy is only appealing in the store or when you show off a game to a friend for the first time. If the game isn’t fun, then consumers look for ways to return or sell it as soon as they decided it is boring to play. Bill Rehbock, the executive producer, and J Patton, the producer of Fight for Life believed very much in the “fun factor” formula and asked Francois to work on those parts of the game engine first. As he did, news began to leak out that Atari was working on a polygonal fighter and before long, Atari was pressed into providing work-in-progress demos to the gaming press. Unfortunately, the gaming magazines decided to evaluate the game by terms other than how it was being developed. While Francois was spending relatively little time making it look good and a lot of time at making it play well, the magazines insisted on evaluations based on how well the screen shots appeared in their glossy magazine pages. By the end of the third quarter of 1995, Atari felt compelled to announce that Fight for Life was “indefinitely postponed” while, behind the scenes, Francois and his team accelerated final development with a focus on the graphic elements of the game. On Friday, April 19, 1996, Atari released Fight for Life to the Jaguar community. As you will see below by unsolicited Internet feedback, the game is being touted as an excellent new addition to the Jaguar library. I finally got a chance to look at it this morning. Please let me say first, that I am not pretending to be a polygonal fighter expert. I’ve seen the Virtual Fighter clones, but I have not played them any more than maybe a quarter’s worth each. That being established, Fight for Life definitely has the fun factor elements I’d expect from an Atari product. Not only does the game look GREAT!, but the mechanism to “earn” new moves as I win bouts is a challenging motivation. I also like the fact that each bout feels like a real time fight. Even in instances where I found a particular one move that seems to defeat my opponent, I have to work hard using it to win. I’ll let the comments that follow speak for themselves, but overall, I’d say Fight for Life kicks BUTTered buns! And another: Ted Hoff: I would like to also share with you that Francois Bertrand has been asked back to complete work on Fight for Life. It’s important that I also tell you that our official position is the same as it has been for months…. that FFL will be released IF and WHEN it meets Atari standards. As you may have heard, the latest test reports have been favorable and I’m delighted to review it, but if Atari personnel answer your inquiries that the title remains on hold, then they are answering your question accurately. Atari remains faithful to publishing software under strict guidelines so that the product Atari customers buy meets or exceeds their expectations. You've also got: Bill Rehbock in his interview with Arcade Attack,talks of Atari playing with the big boys with regard F.F.L… Since Sega’s Virtual Fighter was not fully texture mapped,Atari wanted to do a fully texture mapped game on the Jaguar and Bill himself admits the system wasn’t geared up to do this. He also talked of Sam Tramiel focus group testing the game,knew it would review badly,ecen though some in the group thought the game was pretty cool,but Jaguar badly needed a game in this genre so it was green lit to be shipped,where as other companies would of simply pulled the plug on it. Bill went onto say the game needed another 3 artists for art and animation and entire thing needed a bigger budget. And further still from the Arcade Attack interview : Silvio Porretta There are strong rumors that the released Fight for Life was not fully completed and rushed to meet the release deadline. Is this true, and if, so how much pressure did you feel while working on this title? Not so much. All I had to do is learn the new tools and adapt quickly. I always delivered and the president of Atari was very satisfied with my work. I think the pressure was mostly on FYB. It is also rumored that a fabled more complete version of the game was completed by FYB but never released. Do you know if he or anyone else has the complete version of the game anywhere, and if so, how different was this version to the released game? It’s possible that FYB has a more complete, unreleased version of the game. He would be the only person to have such version. I would think that the difference would only be in the performance and maybe a few improved animations. You can't go off single source quotes, they never present the full story and it's straightforward to find others talking about the games development.
@igorivanov2993 жыл бұрын
Hello you
@JSchaffer2143 жыл бұрын
@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 If a story makes a big company look bad then they'll stick with that version without even second guessing anything.
@LeoDoesAllThis11 ай бұрын
I’ve heard a lot of bad things about Double Dragon V before, especially the Jaguar version. Not just that it suffered from graphics that tried to be better than its 16-bit ports, but ended up being worse and awkward music, but it also had much worse controls which would lead to the player losing in almost every single battle, thanks to how surprisingly cheap their opponents were.
@fordxbgtfalcon3 жыл бұрын
Man I still love my Jaguar! Alien vs Predator, Doom, Raiden and Wolfenstein are some of my favorites. I can’t believe what the console and games are going for these days! I bought mine at Kay B toys back in 97 for $20 for the console and $5 per game.
@scottboehmer19753 жыл бұрын
I sort of regret selling my Jaguar. Tempest 2K was an all time classic for ANY system (as evidenced by the fact it got ported to everything) and it had a lot of other underrated games (Power Drive Rally and Iron Soldier among them).
@NoTengoDinero693 жыл бұрын
KB Toys... Jeez that takes me back
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
You gotta love console clearances. I bought 8 Jags for $10 each back when they dumped it. Man I wish I bought many more.
@jonhufford69803 жыл бұрын
I’m doing the math and I think Atari forgot to carry a one somewhere on that dirt bike game
@provisionalhypothesis6 ай бұрын
32 bit processor + 32 bit blitter == 64 bits. Atari themselves couldn't do the math.
@michaelsheridan36333 жыл бұрын
'We can disagree and still get along' ; what a wonderfully healthy attitude
@Enzo012 Жыл бұрын
Trevor McFur is like one of those cursed games, most awful games generally go away if you don't actively seek out and play them. But Trevor McFur is always there! It's something lurking just beyond the edge of your vision, but you know it's still there and it'll still be there when you're in your grave and beyond.
@provisionalhypothesis6 ай бұрын
I still remember thinking that game looked awesome in the early nineties. 😂😂
@ressljs5 ай бұрын
I actually like Trevor McFur. But I want to stress I said "like" not love. I liked the special weapons, the bosses, and there's a good variety of enemies. The flat backgrounds are lame, the sound is awful, and the level design is minimal. In my opinion, it averages out to a reasonably enjoyable game. There were definitely better shooters on the 16 bit systems, but I also played some that were far worse. I'm not sure how Trevor McFur became the poster child for terrible shooters.
@mattb96643 жыл бұрын
That Trevor McPur lion head immediately made me think about the lion head center framed in Samurai Cop. There will never be another 90's ever again!
@syphon_98923 жыл бұрын
😂
@TheMicWillExperiment3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome love seeing the Jaguar stuff since I missed out on that console completely! Have a great day
@animeaddict53013 жыл бұрын
You didn't miss out. Terrible console, a regrettable purchase wish I never bothered, sold it when it still had some value.
@tarantinoish3 жыл бұрын
That Motocross game looks more like one frame per second.
@scottboehmer19753 жыл бұрын
I actually legitimately loved Club Drive for all it's faults. It was glitchy as hell and definitely not a racing game, but the exploration was fun. It was definitely a bad game, but I enjoyed it.
@dad72753 жыл бұрын
I get that. I feel the same about Checkered Flag.
@dvuemedia3 жыл бұрын
@@dad7275 I think, if they used Club Drive engine on Checkered Flag, then the CF game would be better. Frame rate on Club Drive is smooth compared to CF.
@dad72753 жыл бұрын
@@dvuemedia true. With a much better frame rate cf would have been great in my opinion.
@d.vaughn89903 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely love Club Drive! Every time I hear that corny music, it puts a hugh smile on my face! Club Drive falls in the category of "so bad, it's good"!
@ExtremeWreck2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it actually looks like it could've been fun: too bad Checkered Flag has a lower framerate than 3D games on the original 1989 Gameboy.
@DiRF3 жыл бұрын
Heh. I have that same "VERT DER FERK" shirt. Good stuff.
@warrendesenberg3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@eternylbliss21513 жыл бұрын
I like that Jaguar games tried to use the whole color palate - they resembled what an an acid trip would be like in video game form - a must own for Tempest 2000 though.
@Guitarnivore3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the Jaguar on closeout at KB Toys about 20+ years ago for like $29.99 and all the games they had were about $10.
@UMAMIMAMU Жыл бұрын
Me too. I also vividly recall around that exact same time KB Toys was also liquidating the last of their NES stock, which seemed to take quite a few years for them to fully drain. In particular I can remember them having Punch-Out!! w/Mr. Dream, Final Fantasy, Mega Man 6, Metroid (yellow rerelease), Kirby's Adventure, Wario's Woods, Yoshi, and Yoshi's Cookie, all for $4.99!!!! Could you imagine nowadays?! A SEALED Mega Man game for $4.99?!!
@provisionalhypothesis6 ай бұрын
Imagine if you had bought ten of them and then sold them each for 5 or six hundred bucks on the internet, twenty years later. Lol.
@Guitarnivore6 ай бұрын
@@provisionalhypothesis Right?!?
@spookdocktor54043 жыл бұрын
5.35 when u said what the heck is that? I lost it ....best laugh I've had in a min... the lion head 😂
@dannzalbjorklund3 жыл бұрын
You've got some Dr. Steve Brule Vibes goin on sometimes :) I'm a fan.
@FantasyVisuals2 жыл бұрын
Mcfur was simply a graphic demo made into a game.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
That is not even far from the truth. It was an unfinished rushed out port from the Panther console that was canceled by Atari in favor of the Jaguar.
@mindthreatx3 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head with all of them except for WMCJ. I was a teen during the time that game came out and sure, it wasn't NBA Jam T.E. but for the sake of perspective of when not only development for this game started (in 1994 before the PSX release), it was a decent game and allowed you to play with all your friends. Easily far more playable than the other 4 you mentioned combined. The Jaguar isn't a bad console, the programmers who made the games are or were. SuperCross 3D? Not even finished. Cherry on the top? That was the programmer's first 3D game. Pay close attention to the title screen and you soon realize it doesn't even say SuperCross 3D. That's because Atari rushed the unfinished game out the door, like they did with many of their games sadly. Did you hear the Nirvna rip-off soundtrack in SuperCross? Surely a placeholder but shipped cause who cares!? Talk about a sore thumb indeed. (those who remember the thumb ad ;-) ) With that said, playing WMCJ in 2021 is painful as hell and is not something to waste a good Saturday night doing lol
@Eternally_Sardonic3 жыл бұрын
That clip of Supercross 3D almost gave me motion sickness, so I can't even imagine playing it for any length of time.
@fredlfesl98313 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I had some fun with Supercross 3D (finished it) and with Trevor McFur. Club Drive on the other hand... 🤬🤯
@syphon_98923 жыл бұрын
Oh my god that game Trever Mcfur In The ? 😂
@fredlfesl98313 жыл бұрын
Yes. That Trevor McFur... 😔
@johnnyortega54533 жыл бұрын
In the Trevor McFur case, it doesn't help that the damned game has NO BACKGROUND MUSIC!!!! Music could make a bad game tolerable. But they didn't even TRY with this game, lol.
@guybeleeve3 жыл бұрын
Love videos like this because it takes me back to the 90’s where they took nothing but risks. Most failed but it was fun to see them try. Sometimes it’s fun to play a horrible game and laugh at it. I didn’t know that the Jaguar was this bad. All those games look like a plug n play.🤣
@peterpereira36533 жыл бұрын
Atari Jaguar SDK was based around the Atari TT and that was not as familiar to many developers.And many developers ran the game code around the 68000 because it was familiar to them unlike the custom chips inside the Atari Jaguar.And Atari had told developers that the 68000 was to be used as a controller chip, and the Tom and Jerry custom chips should be used to push the main game code.So not surprising that the machine produced less than impressive versions of some games titles.When it was coded well it could produce some good versions of games titles.Syndicate was a good example comparable to the Windows PC version and much better than the 16 bit versions.I personally bought an Atari Jaguar for games titles like Syndicate, Alien Vs Predator, Theme Park and was quite happy with the machine and the entertainment it gave me at the time.And it was a lot less expensive than buying a Windows PC to play Syndicate on that's for sure.
@thefurthestmanfromhome11483 жыл бұрын
The graphics on Crescent Galaxy lack depth, plus no parallax scrolling on a 64-bit architecture machine, yet your 16-bit rivals do it in their sleep? Epic fail.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
What part of an unfinished port from an unreleased console doesn't everyone get? It was another lazy rush job out the door. The only redeeming quality of this 'game' was the incredible high color depth it used. Nothing of it's time would have pushed colors that deep around that fast without spending serious graphics card money on a PC. No console at the time was capable in hardware other than the 3DO. Then you got the PS1 and others after.
@MiamiSunrise3 жыл бұрын
This period where we got the Jaguar, Jaguar CD, 3DO, CD-i and other varying attempts at alternative gaming consoles really shows that you have to be so much better than what these companies put out to be competitive. Club Drive is dumpster Fire, wait, no, Nuclear Dumpster Fire bad from the looks of it. The whole "64 bit" push was an obvious lie and the Jaguar constantly suffered due to Atari's efforts. YIKES with these titles, I'm thankful you showed us these John. I hope to see more!
@peterpereira36533 жыл бұрын
The Atari Jaguar definitely had 64bit power but it was not a truly fully 64bit machine.Rather a hybrid that had 16bit, 32bit and 64bit features to it which complicated things for Atari Jaguar games developers at the time.At a time when most games developers were more familiar with the 16bit machines of the same era.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
It was not a lie. Go look at the schematics. You will see a 64 bit data bus. That is not there for show.
@fortheloveofking3 жыл бұрын
That shmup reminds me of like and old Win 95 educational game, so it feels nostalgic to me even tho I've never heard of it lol
@badbirdkc3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention one of the worst parts of Trevor McFur - it had no music! But Club Drive had to be the worst Jaguar game I played, hands down. I had a bunch of other games before I sold my system, but I don't really remember many of them being bad. A lot of them were just... boring.
@ressljs3 жыл бұрын
I don't know, the title music was so bad on Trevor McFur, I think they did us a favor by not having any in game. I'd agree with your comment that most Jag games weren't awful. But too many of them felt like they were just trying to be average Genesis games with fancier graphics.
@luiszuniga28593 жыл бұрын
Miss Checkered Flag and Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story. Kasumi Ninja is bad but funny
@SecondOpinionGames13 жыл бұрын
Agreed dragon and checkered flag are the worst games on the system 😃
@Psaurus813 жыл бұрын
Kasumi Ninja was so bad. 3 seconds of input lag in a fighting game...
@SecondOpinionGames13 жыл бұрын
@@Psaurus81 yeah but it came with a sweet head band 😃
@64-Bit-Gamer3 жыл бұрын
Funny how a compilation video of bad games is pretty watchable. It's like an episode of bloopers.
@MultiRetroMan3 жыл бұрын
I started watching your video and have to say, your cap is awesome!! :D
@cooladee3 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of the Jaguar, one of my favorite systems. Before watching this video I would guess the 5 games are Aircars, Checkered Flag, White Men Can't Jump, Trevor McFur, and Bubsy in Fractured Furry Tales.
@cooladee3 жыл бұрын
Well I got two of them right. The Jaguar had several bad games on it, but it has excellent games like Doom, Tempest 2000, Rayman, AvP, Missile Command 3D, NBA Jam TE, Worms, Ultra Vortek, etc.
@mindthreatx3 жыл бұрын
@@cooladee Man... Ultra Vortek is such an overlooked sleeper and is truly a beautiful game. The developers at Beyond Games really poured their hearts and soul into and it shows. It's not Mortal Kombat and that's perfectly fine but the game is awesome, even if a tad slower on the action side than MK. However, Atari should have dropped every single Time Warner license they were bothering with for MK3 in the end, period. Keep the FMV CDs and give everyone MK3 instead. That's what should have happened.
@ressljs3 жыл бұрын
Aircars is horrendous, but I'm guessing it wouldn't make this list because it was released after Atari shut down. Apart from Double Dragon 5, which I never played, I can honestly say Aircars is much worse than anything on this list.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
@@ressljs The funny thing about AirCars is they got the networking right, so at least you could play with a few friends networked. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too huh? ( in fairness the game wasn't finished....another songbird unfinished 'finished' release if memory serves.)
@ressljs5 ай бұрын
@@GORF_EMPIRE If I had multiple Jaguars and could invite friends over to play multiplayer AirCars... I'm guessing I'd no longer have friends. It wasn't a Songbird release. I can't remember who originally released it, but it wasn't Songbird. It got a second run from Wave 1 Games/Good Deal Games. As far as it being unfinished, that's not hard to believe. But there's nothing that is blatantly unfinished. No levels without enemies, pick ups that don't do anything, etc.
@vglegends90043 жыл бұрын
I played the Jaguar at my friends house when I was a kid and I didn’t even know it existed. We played a couple of shooters and I was like meh 😑… my brother and I just vastly preferred the SNES and Genisus at the time. The games for those consoles were just far more superior.
@jook133 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Trevor McFur back in the day.
@CptKennyLoggins3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Trevor as well. I would never admit it in public of course.
@MikeStavola3 жыл бұрын
One day, me and a couple friends got together to get drunk and browse through my game collection. It quickly went to finding and playing the bad ones. This one was that one game we all got the most enjoyment out of. The bad gameplay, the bad audio, the windows 95 1000-in-1 CDs full of klik-n-play games kind of feel.... A lasting memory, for sure.
@patrickmcloughlin29543 жыл бұрын
is he a Jaguar, perhaps?
@dad72753 жыл бұрын
I like it too. Its not all that bad. Ive played worse.
@sparrowrabbit3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed it too. I still own it 😎
@MVLGAMING3 жыл бұрын
Some early 3D games made you wish they'd never entered the third dimension!
@ressljs3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that's how I felt about the whole 5th generation. And not just looking back in horror, even at the time I wasn't a big fan. I had an Atari Jaguar, so that system is where the novelty of 3D graphics wore off. When I realize I bet on the wrong horse, I considered buying a Saturn just because that was really the only system getting many 2D games at the time. But in the end, I didn't buy any of those consoles and just made due with my Jag and SNES while I waited for 3D mature in the next generation. I hear people crying about how they want an N64 mini, and I feel ill just thinking about it.
@Thor-Orion3 жыл бұрын
I loved my Saturn. But other than Clockwork Knight, it’s best games were 3D, but stylized 3D (Nights into Dreams, Virtua Fighter, Panzer Dragoon Series)
@provisionalhypothesis6 ай бұрын
@@ressljsWhen you realized you bet on the wrong horse, you decided to get a saturn ? Oh lord. 😂
@ressljs6 ай бұрын
@@provisionalhypothesis Well, no. I wouldn't buy another console until the Wii. Again, one thing that made me want a Saturn was it more 2D games than PS and N64. Although looking back, I think some of the games I thought I would have been able to get were actually Japan only Saturn games. I remember the game magazines back then used to preview games from Japan but something like 75% of Saturn games in Japan never got a North American release.
@toaf64673 жыл бұрын
"where did you learn to fly?" play some defender 2k until you see the hands for some fun
@joshuajayne89263 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I didn't spend my summer job money on this system back in the day.
@MarquisDeSang3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed it a lot. Drive Club was the best driving game at that time. It had real physics contrary to ridge racer and Daytona usa
@markfostercrtgamer32013 жыл бұрын
Well... its worth way more than most consoles. So there is a plus side. Atari collectors will pay 400 dollars to set it on the shelf.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
Don't let these games leave a bad taste in your mouth. There are much better titles that would show Jag in a much better light.
@danestegman1553 жыл бұрын
Good video! Unfortunately, I do have all of these bad Jaguar games in this video! They are bad. I remember getting some of these on the cheap, when Atari was getting rid of them.
@yosserhughes1393 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he says “oh my goodness”. I’ll be at your funeral.
@Gabriel_Phil2-3_Psalms913 жыл бұрын
Loving the Content man
@EndlessFunctionality3 жыл бұрын
Atari Jaguar: How you want your racing games? Literally No one: Ones that look like they were made in MS Paint with slideshow framerate. Atari Jaguar: I gotchu.
@JackalGoldKick3 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. I really enjoy the channel
@Atari8man20113 жыл бұрын
You nailed it John - well done
@Mr_x_19922 Жыл бұрын
1:28 Terrible graphics? or no graphics? That game has just solid colors 🤣
@mustangjones673 жыл бұрын
I don’t really remember the title to a flying game for the Jaguar but “ Where did you learn to fly?” Repeated constantly .
@johnhancockretro3 жыл бұрын
Cybermorph
@theflightfile95789 ай бұрын
Club Drive and Motocross are horrible. Crescent Moon is not that bad, i've seen lots of shooters much worse.
@timburger41712 жыл бұрын
Totally forgot about the horror, that is Trevor mc fur! Great laughs John!!!
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
The real horror is the potential this game had. Keep in mind. This was an unfinished title ported over from the Panther console, as was Cybermorph and the other two titles. Very little effort was put into this game. However, to give it props wher due, the color depth was second to none and no PC, never mind any console at the time could ever push that bit depth at such a frame rate. Unfortunately, pretty graphics need decent game play.Trevor just did not have that.
@DreamcastQ3 жыл бұрын
I remember trying the Jag at an older neighbor's when I was a kid and being like "??? what IS this system, what are these games??" lol the controller and games struck me as so weird compared to what I was used to - Nintendo/Sega
@datacipher10 ай бұрын
Wow, what a story! I saw a mouse a few days ago!
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
@@datacipher Is your life really this boring that you need to bust DreamcastQ's balls?
@datacipher5 ай бұрын
@@GORF_EMPIRE AWWWW....I'M SOWWY Bubby. It's gonna be OK. You're a big boy.
@519MaLoNeY3 жыл бұрын
You make me laugh SO hard because you’re so polite and such a nice guy and describing absolute trash games 😂🤣
@kjhoskins3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Those are some stinkers. I think the biggest fail of the Jaguar is the controller. Great video. Thanks, John.
@ianpitkin63243 жыл бұрын
thought i was gonna heave watching the dirt bike game
@sedawk3 жыл бұрын
That Supercross 3D clip and gameplay was like finger nails on a chalkboard!
@DarKKnightt073 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this will be a series now.
@NYKgjl103 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Motorcross 3D at my local Babbage's games store long time ago at the clearance bin. Now years later, I understand why.
@ronbowling98523 жыл бұрын
Having played Trevor McFur, White Men Can't Jump, and Supercross 3D, I totally agree with your analysis. I've also played Double Dragon V, but on SNES and it was terrible on there. I would also add Cybermorph to my personal list of worst Jaguar games.
@MountainHomeJerrel2 жыл бұрын
9:05 I laughed out loud when everyone on the court just laid down and died for a while.
@DaiAtlus793 жыл бұрын
0:37 hey john you ever encounter a 'Cat Box' for the Jag back in the day? my cousin and his friend both had Jags, but his friend Howie has a Cat Box which connected to the back of the Jag's card edge connectors to break out to RGB, specifically the Atari Monitor could be used (as Howie showed us using my cousin's ST monitor to play AVP.
@johnhancockretro3 жыл бұрын
Never had one, they are quite rare.
@DaiAtlus793 жыл бұрын
@@johnhancockretro shame someone cant make a repro one for production, it's very 'my life in gaming' for the RGB fans out there.
@billythekidstoyreviewchannel3 жыл бұрын
I loved my Jaguar, but Goddamn some games were horrible. Great video!
@redsofaanimation3 жыл бұрын
That Double Dragon 5 game reminds me of 80’s early 90’s style Saturday cartoons XD
@richhutnik24772 жыл бұрын
No mention of Katsumi Ninja. John wants to keep it secret that his alter ego is Angus from Katsumi Ninja. If word gets out, John will be forever harassed about how specifically he can shoot fireballs.
@atom_zero54133 жыл бұрын
I guess Jaguar's maths didn't add up.
@coyotekelly71433 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying this series. I like checking out some of these games.
@Larkon9793 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite vids you do!
@IND4GR0V33 жыл бұрын
good video, audio was a bit harsh in this one tho
@J0MBi3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I made the mistake of buying Double Dragon 5 with my system. It sucked, especially as I was expecting a scrolling brawler in the style of DD1 and DD2. Iron Solider was another game I got when I bought the console and it was actually one of if not the best Mech game I think I've ever played. Light years ahead of what it had to compete with in 1994. There was a PS1 version, Iron Solider 3. It improves on the original Jag games in a lot of ways (you can use analog sticks for a start), but something about Iron Solider 1 will for me always be the best.
@zmbdog3 жыл бұрын
"Bangin' up high the handle homey beef" ~ An actual line in _White Men Can't Jump_ . And yes, there are more like it.
@Sleepysnorlax13 жыл бұрын
I think you were generous when you said the motocross game had 15 frames per second. I was thinking 5.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
He was being nice. He had to have been. I'd give it ten fps max but I too am being generous.
@EvilAng3la3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Trevor McFur, with such exciting enemies as "cube", "sphere", and "rock". No seriously, let the game play, and it shows you those as the enemies to fight. The lion in the military uniform is the best part of this game.
@DragonGrafx-163 жыл бұрын
There's actually a furry feline centric shoot 'em up on DOS called Interpose, not a great game by any means but it's a lot better than this one.
@rga84163 жыл бұрын
omgosh John thanx for sharing this took me way back...terrible just terrible ..lmao...hey remember in 90s i was a kid.. there was a fighting game relaesed for the jaguar like a wanna be mortal kombat? it was graphic af had fatalities finishers at end...do you recall tat one hehe
@damon12815 ай бұрын
I had about 30 or more of the games and when my sister came to visit, her son only wanted to play Club Drive. It was funny how much he liked that game. He was somewhere under 10 years old at the time.
@jforce1093 жыл бұрын
No wonder why the Jaguar failed. 😩😩😩😩😩
@Beofware3 жыл бұрын
Great video, John! These look so wack lol The basketball one intrigues me though.. Were there many 3D basketball games around at that time? It looks to be more similar to modern basketball games than even later more popular titles.
@maxpower10k3 жыл бұрын
The gameplay looks awful but the houses in the background was definitely a nice touch and the 3d effects were probably pretty cool for the time.
@darkridearts2 жыл бұрын
I almost bought a Jaguar back in the day for Tempest 2000, then I kept talking myself out of it because there weren’t enough other games that interested me/looked decent. Tempest X3 eventually showed up on PSX and I got that instead and loved it.
@Dirtyz12343 жыл бұрын
Kasumi Ninja was that terrible fighting game that I loved the hell out of as a kid.
@mindthreatx3 жыл бұрын
Balls of Fire!!!!
@imreadydoctor3 жыл бұрын
I had never actually seen a Jaguar system or game for sale at any store as a kid. The only time I've seen one was at a retro-game shop as an adult. Still have never actually touched one, but have always been very curious over the system.
@pferreira19833 жыл бұрын
Club Drive doesn't actually look that bad. For the time pretty alright.
@thefurthestmanfromhome11483 жыл бұрын
Jury is still out, exactly who asked for Supercross 3D to be Texture-Mapped, even though they knew it'd kill the frame rate. Leonard Tramiel or the boss of Tiertex.
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
It is hardly pushing any polygons. Laying off the 68k is what the game needed.
@RPKGameVids3 жыл бұрын
Bubsy on the Jag is another game that's considered as really bad, but I actually really like it.
@thaidenthach9806Ай бұрын
I heard that all sinners going to hell , will have an Atari Jaguar waiting for them.
@GORF_EMPIRE3 жыл бұрын
A good system plagued by really sloppy programming due to horrid coding tools. the power is there but only a few games show it. Even those could have been better with a decent dev kit. When you have the other systems of the time allowing for C/C++ dev kits, Jaguar devs were old Amiga and ST 68k based coders with assembler.
@mattturner75003 жыл бұрын
If you close your eyes you can hear Dale doeback narrating the video
@atranfanatic3 жыл бұрын
"Where did you learn to fly?"
@laroberts87023 жыл бұрын
more of bad games please 👍😂 kind of want to try them now
@undertakerba3 жыл бұрын
you have some nice hats.
@Anastasia20483 жыл бұрын
Hey I just wanted to say, where did you learn to fly?
@CptKennyLoggins3 жыл бұрын
I purchased a clearance Club Drive which turned out to be defective. No sound whatsoever. I think Highlander on Jag Cd deserves an honorable mention. I found Highlander to be nearly unplayable.
@DodgaOfficial3 жыл бұрын
Let's talk about the graphic design of the box for trevor mcfur, what would possess them to put huge lettering for the first part of the title, then make the location it's set in small, offset to the side and looking like a nintendo seal of quality?
@jasonsamson617210 ай бұрын
That shootem up game looked like something I would play lol
@ressljs5 ай бұрын
I thought it was a half decent game. And some of my friends liked it too. It wasn't amazing, but I also don't think it deserves the "worst shooter ever" reputation it has.
@thepoliticalstartrek3 жыл бұрын
The Jag is an example of backwards hurting a current gen console. So many developers just converted their current 68000 CPU games to use the control chip.
@99Vood993 жыл бұрын
Lol John you're too kind, I'd think you'd be better off with a top 5 GOOD games list as that's probably all the system ever had. :D
@TheBic43 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the best or worst FMV games.
@jimmcclements5229 Жыл бұрын
I was trying to remember when I played Club Drive then I remembered it was one of the games on Atari 50. You're correct the game is terrible I have no idea how to play or even what the object of the game is. You are usually right on the mark when it comes to bad games.
@BitScout3 жыл бұрын
I still have my original copy of club Drive CIB and yes I know it’s not a good game but when I was 11 years old and it was one of the first polygon based games, it was pretty fun. But it definitely deserves a place on this list. I really can’t think of anything else to put on this list but if the creator of club Drive is watching and reading comments, I enjoyed it, and I still have my original copy. Jerome’s pad rocks!
@miaouew3 жыл бұрын
The Double Dragon fighter on Neo Geo was amazing.
@Hektols3 жыл бұрын
Agree and in theory the Jaguar could have had more potent 2D fighting games than what we saw in Neo Geo but it never had one.
@thefurthestmanfromhome11489 ай бұрын
Todd Powers had wanted Club Drive to be driving game all about driving a miniature toy car, and the physics showed that. Atari kept pushing Todd to make it more of a "serious" racing game, and that really hurt it.
@PezPirate3 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched this episode, but betting Highlander is on this list....
@PBBoogie993 жыл бұрын
That was Jaguar CD
@PezPirate3 жыл бұрын
@@PBBoogie99 Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have lumped the entire system together like that. The pain.... It still stings though.
@peterpereira36533 жыл бұрын
Most Atari Jaguar owners never actually bought the Atari Jaguar CD unit add-on.
@MateusAuri Жыл бұрын
not sure if it's an emulator bug yet to be ironed out, but when I tried Supercross 3D on Virtual Jaguar, I found it hilarious that sometimes the bike just refuses to turn any direction, and you can drive straight through the walls into a brown void
@GORF_EMPIRE5 ай бұрын
Emu bug probably. I never came across it on the real deal but I also did not play the game much after a while when I realized what an inexcusably piss poor ( hardly an)effort it was.
@hualni3 жыл бұрын
I wish Atari used their vast stores of wealth and relationships with companies like Sega to make a console that was truly next-gen. They really could have catapulted the market forward. Instead, they acted like a start-up out of someone's garage.
@whitealliance95403 жыл бұрын
I got one as a kid... It was like the system someone created if and when a parent needed to buy a game system but didnt do any research on the games or quality. I was def. The weird kid with the weird game system for a solid year... The joysticks were completly hilarious and the number pad was useless. Thing shouldve made calls internationally.