ALL HYPE? Eversolo DMP-A6 review (vs. FiiO R7, Bluesound Node X)

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@toulcaz31
@toulcaz31 Жыл бұрын
Interesting take. What lead me to the Eversolo was wanting a good DAC within $500-$800 range and getting a streamer on top like the Wiim Pro (or something within that budget all combined). But then here was the Eversolo offering all that and a nicely finished and integrated device. The screen, cd ripping and other nice to have features are just cherry on the cake to me. Maybe the R7 also pays for not being reviewed by many DAC reviewers too (at least that I can find).
@grumpyginger7475
@grumpyginger7475 Жыл бұрын
The ability to direct Apple music to the Eversolo, without using AirPlay, is the deciding factor for me.
@chrisAclaes
@chrisAclaes Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s pretty huge. It’s basically like an Apple Music Connect, right? Is there anything else like that, sans Roon?
@grumpyginger7475
@grumpyginger7475 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisAclaes First I've seen it. Huge plus.
@NeilLavitt
@NeilLavitt Жыл бұрын
@@chrisAclaesif only it was. The closest to this is the Apple TV which is probably not bitperfect and restricted to 24/48.
@thomasmaguire4074
@thomasmaguire4074 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisAclaesThis is 100% an Apple Music Connect which Apple has failed to provide in almost every way. The only things that come close are controlling an Apple TV with an iPad or iPhone. Or controlling an iPhone with an Apple Watch.
@trebep
@trebep Жыл бұрын
It is like a remote controlled phone that plays Apple Music. Not as slick as a ‘connect’. It sounds awesome. I use it as a Roon endpoint, with Qobuz, with room correction and upsampling. Love it. That being said when I play the native Qobuz app, or the Apple Music app, it sounds incredible without the room correction and upsampling. I am very pleased with the A6. The Fiio looks great as well. Hopefully someone does a video with the A6 and Peachtree GAN-1 as Darko suggested would be a good fit.
@sydsM3
@sydsM3 Жыл бұрын
I really wish you took some time to listen to the USB digital output going into a high performance USB DAC. Many people are using it or are contemplating using it as a streaming transport in that manner, and my guess is that a lot of people in your audience would like to hear your opinion in using it in that configuration.
@JKadison
@JKadison Жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the Bluesound Node X. I purchased mine a couple months before the Eversolo was available. And as others have mentioned I have no need for a screen. I’m sure they’re all within a small degree of separation. Thanks for the honest review!
@jko560
@jko560 Жыл бұрын
Same thoughts here. The X is a great piece of gear and a huge step from my original Node 2i.
@flashnc
@flashnc Жыл бұрын
Same... i have Node Gen3... dont need to go X version.. for me songs play great... 😊
@alastairjones7359
@alastairjones7359 Жыл бұрын
So nice to have a screen tho…..I know you listen with your ears but your eyes play a big part I recon…not only does it sound great it looks great and I’m all for that
@steadilyfred
@steadilyfred Жыл бұрын
@@alastairjones7359but who can read what’s on that tiny 6-inch screen from two-plus metres away. I much prefer a 12.9-inch tablet at my fingertips for interacting with my device and music library.
@OzSteve
@OzSteve Жыл бұрын
Great review John. With the Fiio R7 with firmware V2 has VU meters :) I have both the Eversolo and the R7 (with the PSU) I originally bought the R7 for my home office. I love it. I then bought the Eversolo purely to test it. But fell in love with it (only used with Roon, oh and I wish you added some Roon into this review) I have left the Eversolo in my home office (connected to active Focal speakers) and added the R7 to my headphone room as I won't be selling either as I am very happy with both (for the money)
@HevyGee
@HevyGee Жыл бұрын
I am terribly glad that you chose to review this unit! (insert grateful hands emoji) BTW: I really like the "McIntosh" meters on the HiFi Rose
@elwis74
@elwis74 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for the side-by-side comparisons! These gives much better context than other reviewer's hype.
@FOXMARINA63
@FOXMARINA63 Жыл бұрын
I waiting my Eversolo. time goes on endlessly! Thank you for the video
@richardgadsby6642
@richardgadsby6642 Жыл бұрын
Very much appreciate fair comparisons of products and not "night and day" differences that some reviewers seem to exaggerate. For now, I'm sticking to my Cambridge CXN which really was way ahead of its time.
@chrischamberlin4645
@chrischamberlin4645 Жыл бұрын
As a totally blind audio enthusiast, I would like to see a disable touchscreen button in order that I could set the preferences, and then disable the screen so that I don’t inadvertently touch it again or better yet, introduce voice guidance into the touchscreen so that the blind person can use the device. This is fairly simple and as evidenced by Apple having done this for the past 15 years.
@Krell666
@Krell666 Жыл бұрын
Great review. My only concern with devices of this type is long term software support and updates.
@davidyan5502
@davidyan5502 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the great review! I'm not sure but I think you were comparing these two units with their internal DACs. It would be interesting to compare them as standalone streamers. It is likely that many folks would want to use them with external DACs.
@dropthehammer1360
@dropthehammer1360 Жыл бұрын
Hi, John. The Cambridge CXN V2’s display shows the same when streaming from an iPhone and a MacBook. I contacted Cambridge about this and this is their explanation: AAC is just the wrapper or codec. The transcoding is not done by the CXN, but rather, by the transmitting device - the phone or computer. This is something that is done on Apple's end - the transcoding process is a 'black box' to which we do not have access. If the sample rate and bit depth is showing 16-bit/44.1kHz, then this is indeed the quality being received, albeit in an AAC wrapper.
@SkullLeader
@SkullLeader Жыл бұрын
Apple Lossless is a form of AAC. Maybe this is what is being transmitted? Would be nice to confirm.
@tgp-2
@tgp-2 Жыл бұрын
aac is a lossy codec with a max bitrate ~ 1/3 that of cd quality lossless alac or flac ... an aac decoder will often output to 16/44 pcm (as this format is eventually what gets fed to the dac), but it can't turn lossy into lossless
@tgp-2
@tgp-2 Жыл бұрын
​@@SkullLeader apple lossless (alac) and aac are different/unrelated codecs ... they do share a common container type (mp4) and file extension (.m4a)
@liamporter1137
@liamporter1137 Жыл бұрын
Able to control remotely is one of the key factor for choosing the A6 for me. Convenient is so important nowadays for streaming. Having an internal SSD is great too.
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles Жыл бұрын
Really GREAT review!!! Couple months into my DMP-A6 and still loving it.. Great unit that brings a TON to the table.
@eidanelbaz
@eidanelbaz Жыл бұрын
Love your review John! I couldn’t agree more. I bought the Master edition Eversolo a week ago, but until today couldn’t point my finger on why I cant connect with it. I kept going back and forth between the Eversolo and a MyTek Brooklyn Bridge II I bought a month ago. Even the the BBII lacks in streaming capabilities and UI, it has a much superior sound stage and sound warmth. I was really disappointed by the sound quality of the Eversolo especially after all these positive reviews out there. It has an amazing UI and the whole user experience is amazing, but sorry to say lack in sound quality and stage. At least on my Marantz AV8805A, Parasound A51 amp and Dynaudio and REL speakers.
@stuartmitchell1908
@stuartmitchell1908 Жыл бұрын
Some good points. I have the Eversolo, and I love it’s form, screen etc. but I use another DAC as the sound is better. As a transport steamer it’s unbeatable
@stijnvanderlooy5311
@stijnvanderlooy5311 Жыл бұрын
Did you compare as a streamer to others? Can you say something about it?
@aayotechnology
@aayotechnology Жыл бұрын
Which dac is that?
@downhillblur708
@downhillblur708 Жыл бұрын
That's a lot of $$ to use as a transport! Very happy with a Node with its BluOS as a transport to a Denafrips Ares 12-1 DAC.
@stuartmitchell1908
@stuartmitchell1908 Жыл бұрын
@@stijnvanderlooy5311 I had the CXN v2 before. And that was great too. Bit warmer sound. I can’t really say more than the video describes. Although the CD burning software doesn’t work. Doesn’t expect to burn albums! It’s well built,and smooth in operation. The DAC is great if you like a cool etched revealing sound.
@stuartmitchell1908
@stuartmitchell1908 Жыл бұрын
@@aayotechnology velvet e70
@D1N02
@D1N02 Жыл бұрын
I found a audio specific power cable made a great difference for my DAC (Aune X8 VIII'th with the optional Aune linear power supply and Sparkos Opamp.). May also be true for the Eversolo. They are not that expensive on the big platforms.
@natediaz6690
@natediaz6690 Жыл бұрын
Another great review! Explained exactly how it should be. Not stating it's the best, but highlights all the options each component offers so you can decide what component flavor works for you? Sad there are not more reviewers out there like you John! Awesome job again!
@PaulG73
@PaulG73 11 ай бұрын
I have three audio masters here not including myself ;) one is a pretty well known guitarist, one is what you would call a modern day sound (manual) decoder and last but not least is what we call a multi musician and everyone of us agreed that the eversolo sounds crisper, cleaner and more importantly not brighter, we hear clarity better in this unit where many times that clarity sounds brighter but not correctly so. Not to confuse anyone but in lament terms clarity can sound brighter. Verdict eversolo is under valued for that we can hear. Cheers BTW thanks for your review and take on these units even if there are some disagreements.
@burkeknox5992
@burkeknox5992 Жыл бұрын
To add the Rose 250 would be a great extension of the side by side comparison , great video and thanx as ever
@Touringtim
@Touringtim Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review John but you are costing me fortune. After watching this review I went online and ordered an Eversolo DMP-A6 which should be here by the end of the week. Keep up this excellent content.
@tecno_logico
@tecno_logico Жыл бұрын
thanks, as a note, you can use the eversos internal ssd disk as Roon storage, you just have to add it in Roon by adding the samba address, it works great, fast and sounds great
@cemmany
@cemmany 4 ай бұрын
Hi Mate , Can you install Roon core in that ssd and use it as the roon server ?. cheers
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard Жыл бұрын
There are two companies that make a linear power supply for the Node units. One is called PD Creative, and they are located in Poland. The other is a sibling company of Denafrips, called Beatechnik. They both replace the internal switch mode PS with an "interface" board that has additional filtering and capacitors, and then you use an external LPS plugged into the Node. I have the PD Creative and it does make a significant improvement in the sound quality; as you mentioned. I am also using an LPS on my Geshelli Labs J2S DAC.
@shkermanshahi
@shkermanshahi Жыл бұрын
I have teddy pardo interface for blusound 2021, that is simple wire with no capacitors and a Teddy pardo LPS. The older version of blue sound requires a pd creative like solution from teddy pardo. I am using it with teddy pardo 5v LPS, but even with ifi low noise switching power supply , sounds better than original ps inside blue sound.
@trebep
@trebep Жыл бұрын
Which one did you purchase for the Geshelli?
@Dr.Struve
@Dr.Struve Жыл бұрын
I have the PD modifikation in my Node 2i, however only with a low noise switching power supply. Made a difference in the sound. More details and more bass.
@AnotherAnonymousMan
@AnotherAnonymousMan Жыл бұрын
Wow: I just expected this to perform markedly better than the Fiio sonically! If anything, this has made me re-evaluate the the Fiio... Thanks for the outstanding review, as always!
@stijnvanderlooy5311
@stijnvanderlooy5311 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I do think, however, that many of us already have a quite decent dac. And interest in the bluesound x vs. Eversolo is more with respect to them being used as oure streamers. Hopefully a short follow up video adressing this is valuable for many of us. Just an idea. I appreciate your efforts
@stijnvanderlooy5311
@stijnvanderlooy5311 Жыл бұрын
Oh. I just heard that it might be addressed in a written review
@kanakmahmud9884
@kanakmahmud9884 Жыл бұрын
Di not know about the Node x but, for me, Eversolo is clearly better than Node 2i feeding into same DAC ( Denafrips Ares ii).
@eddiecotter7201
@eddiecotter7201 Жыл бұрын
I looked at both units but went with the r7 because it supports headphones but there are some other good reasons too,fiio also made speakers which really compliment the r7(the sp3) in both sound and looks,they have just brought out their first over ear headphones (the ft3)which sound great with this unit and are very good value indeed,they have a very handy remote for this unit(the rm3) which works well,i bought all the above and it all works really well together,sounds great and forms a seamless system,i just need to buy the pl150 now to complete the system,thanks john
@pc750-V4
@pc750-V4 4 ай бұрын
My concern with either is longevity. I like my audio gear to last a while, I try to choose wisely and then use it for years (I mean 10-20 years sort of time) unless it fails of course. These sort of devices being essentially a smartphone/small computer will rely on updates for new services for example which may not happen in a few years time once the next model or two is released. They just seem to be more short term devices (like a smartphone) that need to be changed every few years to keep pace with developments which given the price isnt necessarily easy to do. I realise this is the reality of streaming equipment like this but for now its just not for me... Or at least not this way.
@loaked3000
@loaked3000 4 ай бұрын
Thats a great point of view I dont think a lot of people consider. $900 is a lot to spend now a days and I think its worth it for this device, but your right, in 5 years will it even be able to run most of those apps? 10 years?
@lodden90
@lodden90 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I view streamers. I dont think I would buy anything more expensive than the ifi Zen stream or BS Node as I would assume they all pretty much have around a 5 year lifespan unfortunately. Ive been stung by this in the past when I brought a Pioneer NA50 to stream Spotify and shortly afterwards Pioneer stopped support so I got stuck using it with USB from my phone. Im planning on buying a BS Node and then coax out to a decent DAC (qutest or similar) to soften the blow of streamer obsolescence.
@TheVoicefrombelow
@TheVoicefrombelow Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused by the testing methodology for the sound quality comparison. You said that you hooked up a cd transport. Was that to test the DAC section of each unit without the streaming section? There was no mention of this particular comparison. It also would have been nice to know how each streamer sounds when hooked up to a superior DAC compared to their internal DAC.
@MikeBear1000
@MikeBear1000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice review John! The absence of headphone outputs is an absolute dealbreaker for me... I'm a very happy user of the FiiO R7.
@jackdelarosa6036
@jackdelarosa6036 Жыл бұрын
Well it goes to show how different people have different needs. Great that you are enjoying your FiiO R7. I was considering the FiiO R7 as well. However, I was looking for a first rate streamer primarily to interface to a separate dedicated headphone amp and that’s what the Eversolo DMP-A6 brings to the table. I bought it, got it last week, connected it to my Lake People G-108 headphone amp (a sublime neutral-sounding headphone amp) and the sound coming out of my headphones is first rate. The direct support for Apple Music Hi-Res lossless which is my primary music streaming software was another must for me. The overall functionality, operability, aesthetics and easy of use of the Eversolo DMP-A6 are greasy as well.
@mike_burke
@mike_burke Жыл бұрын
@@jackdelarosa6036The exact same reasons I made the exact same decision as well. And no regrets. Thanks for the headphone amp recommendation, as I am looking to upgrade mine 🙏 Cheers!
@jgonzo1995
@jgonzo1995 Жыл бұрын
I really wish somebody would just release a box with all of the UI and form factor of the Eversolo, the addition of a USB digital out, and the subtraction of the DAC. I'm a ladder DAC guy, I have a very nice DAC that I quite like, I just want a good streaming box that has a nice, big display and can handle Roon, stream Apple, Spotify, etc. to feed the DAC. If the Eversolo had USB out that could push out the high-rate DSD files in my collection, I would buy it anyway, but alas....
@jgsburnett9532
@jgsburnett9532 Жыл бұрын
The Denafrips ARCE streamer will be out very soon. Designed to go with R2R dacs, and so no built in dac. . No display panel however. If the app is good enough and you use it on a tablet or smart phone I see no need for a display anyway. Eagerly awaiting more information.
@kanakmahmud9884
@kanakmahmud9884 Жыл бұрын
Eversolo does have USB output to external DAC. I am using it to output to my Denafrips Ares ii.
@KtsStone80
@KtsStone80 Жыл бұрын
It has a USB out. Sounds like the written review will cover the quality of the A6 only as a streamer.
@SkullLeader
@SkullLeader Жыл бұрын
@@kanakmahmud9884 That's the combo I'm looking for. Already have the Aries II being fed via USB from Auralic Aries Mini. Really just want the display and streaming.
@jankrajcik609
@jankrajcik609 Жыл бұрын
Great review John! Really enjoyed it. Not just for the content but also for how you presented it. Keep up the good work.
@dmac2850
@dmac2850 Жыл бұрын
I had both the Fiio and the eversolo for me the eversolo looks and sounds better in my system Denon 1700 amp with wharfdale lintons. I also tried it with some d300 swan powered speakers sounds awesome with them too so i sent the Fiio back.
@chrisbatista2379
@chrisbatista2379 Жыл бұрын
Terrific is every new review from Darko Audio... Better every day 😉 Keep up the great work. Greetings from Portugal 🤗
@TPQ1235
@TPQ1235 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as usual John.
@danab7472
@danab7472 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my R7 (and PL50) for a couple of weeks. I agree with everything said in this review. It sounds very good. Compared to similarly priced current gen units the difference might not be might and day, but when compared to the Yamaha WXC-50 I had previously, the difference is very prominent. One thing to mention: the wifi antenna, while discreet and unobtrusive, does not pull down signal very well. It’s far less effective than even my iPhone 13 with case on. If you can’t set it in sight of your router you’ll likely need to use Ethernet to avoid pauses and dropouts in streaming playback.
@danab7472
@danab7472 Жыл бұрын
Also. I have not had any software glitches. Runs very well.
@taidee
@taidee Жыл бұрын
Masterful work as usual JD, thank you.
@selvan2379
@selvan2379 10 ай бұрын
As a casual music listener who had been streaming Spotify through my Sony tv connected to Klipsch The Fives, the eversolo represents for me a night and day difference. Even if I'm only using the inbuilt dac in the Klipsch, the eversolo is clearly doing something to the streaming signals, and what i hear is just amazing. And the unit itself looks like a beautifull premium hifi equipment. Very happy with purchase.
@kjellhedberg1199
@kjellhedberg1199 Жыл бұрын
I still using Embla classic as streamer. Outstanding.
@warfam_clan6933
@warfam_clan6933 Жыл бұрын
John, your reviews just keep getting better and better. Over the years I have slowly changed my attitude towards gear and music and how they affect me. This has happened primarily because of watching your videos. I own the R7 with the jade audio power supply and I purchased these because the Eversolo was so hard to get hold of. I am so pleased that it went like this because I couldn’t be happier with the results. My system consists of the r7, Audiolab 6000 t, Chord Qutest with mcru power supply, A bespoke turntable based around rega and origin live. Willsenton r800i 300b, 805 tube amp, Roksan Kandy K2 integrated and power amp, Kef R5 speakers and Magnepan 1.7i speakers. Thank you as always for your knowledge and personal insight into the world of hifi that we dearly love.
@gregwawryk1898
@gregwawryk1898 4 ай бұрын
Synergy is most important to me. It's always the one that fits my system. It sounds like the Eversolo fits the bill.Thanks for that the comparative review. 👍
@shkermanshahi
@shkermanshahi Жыл бұрын
I added a teddy pardo ($450 USD) LPS to my bluesound 2021, and that opened up and cleared the sound significantly. They all cut the corner on power supply.
@palmito22
@palmito22 Жыл бұрын
Aesthetic from Fiio is absolutely no go.
@annatatar4253
@annatatar4253 Жыл бұрын
The problem with an audio device that relies on android is that at some point the company will release new hardware and there's a good chance the older one will be abandoned and they will stop updating it. The same way phone companies abandon older phones. Also if the company goes out of business there won't be anyone to do needed software updates and device could become permanently broken.
@JBoulter11
@JBoulter11 Жыл бұрын
At this price-point there's no excuse for not coming with a hardware remote. Definitely would like to see that remote included.
@dizzle1119
@dizzle1119 10 ай бұрын
I received the Eversolo DMP A6 Master Edition yesterday evening and I'm yet to turn it off. This in an incredible piece of kit. I can't speak on the normal version of the device, but I'm perfectly content w/ the Master Edition. My journey for a streaming DAC ends right here. I'm done with it....
@starbase218
@starbase218 Жыл бұрын
Lack or eARC is a deal breaker for me. The Bluesound Node X seems more tempting. Although I appreciate it's a somewhat different proposition. But then I think I like the simplicity of it as well.
@MisterChibs
@MisterChibs Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's a f-ton of hype behind the A6 and it's nice to see your practical approach on it. One thing that came as a surprise is lossless Apple music. That's invaluable for some. Other than that, it's a streamer with a touch screen, decent DAC, and very specific feature set. Comparing to BS Node you actually loose a lot of functionality (Especially with the GaN 1) having no trigger or Sub out. Having a touch screen is nice in some use cases but like you, I'm sort of lukewarm ont the idea. There is no "Best" streamer under 1k in my books. Just pick whichever suits your use-case best and enjoy. The really interesting part for me was that you improved that Fiio with a linear power supply. Does this also effect sound quality when used as a digital transport only, going through an external DAC? I'm looking into doing this with one of my streamers.
@brandonwinstead5128
@brandonwinstead5128 Жыл бұрын
So would you have to have hook up the Eversolo to an Ethernet to get the lossless streaming function?
@AudioTnT
@AudioTnT Жыл бұрын
No headphone jack, hdmi ARC, sub out on A6 but I found the dynamics of the A6 greater than Node 2i (better SNR). I don't hear greater HF emphasis but my hearing peaks at 8500 Hz 🙁
@AudioTnT
@AudioTnT Жыл бұрын
No headphone jack, hdmi ARC, sub out on A6 but I found the dynamics of the A6 greater than Node 2i (better SNR). I don't hear greater HF emphasis but my hearing peaks at 8500 Hz 🙁
@MisterChibs
@MisterChibs Жыл бұрын
@@brandonwinstead5128 Ethernet is always recommended but if the a6 has wifi, you should still be able to get lossless.
@MisterChibs
@MisterChibs Жыл бұрын
@@AudioTnT I feel the Node is more versatile but don’t doubt SQ is better on other streamers like the a6. I compared mine with a Lumin U2 Mini and could hear improvements. 🍻
@jimmygup
@jimmygup Жыл бұрын
I really like my DMP-A6. My main use case is with Roon (Qobuz/Tidal) but I appreciate that I can listen to Apple lossless as well. I use the m.2 drive to store downloaded DSD files from PS Audio, NativeDSD, etc. I just started re-ripping CDs to the m.2 drive in FLAC format in those cases where the music isn’t available via Roon. To do this, I used the DMP-A6’s currently finicky CD app with an inexpensive CD drive attached via the USB external storage port (ASUS ZenDrive Ultra Slim USB 2.0 External 8X DVD Optical Drive). I’m using the DMP-A6’s DAC now. I am interested in how others like its DAC as well as using it with external DAC’s (like in iiWi’s reviews’ video).
@brandonwinstead5128
@brandonwinstead5128 Жыл бұрын
To get Apple Lossless with the DMP-A6 do you have to connect it with your Ethernet?
@jimmygup
@jimmygup Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@brandonwinstead5128 I always use a wired connection. However, as an experiment, I unplugged the ethernet cable and then tried wifi. It still played 24/192 hi-res lossless. Nice! (Btw, I can’t get it to play Dolby Atmos via wired or wifi, similar to what others have reported. Hopefully that can be added but I can use Apple TV 4K, iPhone, etc. for that purpose when the urge strikes me.)
@AudioTnT
@AudioTnT Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Asus tip. I've tried several CD drives with no or partial success. I compared Node 2i and A6 with a Weiss 204 DAC. The A6 sounded clearer and more detailed to me and my audio buddy.
@OzSteve
@OzSteve 7 ай бұрын
Great review as always. I myself had the FIIO R7 in my home office. I then added the Eversolo (borrowed) I love the screen (more so for display of art/track) and the A6 sits nicely under my monitor while working. As I have a dedicated headphone setup I ended up selling the R7 and buying the A6 and happy as. While it's a far cry from my main system (Auralic Aries G2) it does the job for what I want and doubt I'll be changing it for some time. I run Focal Alpha 80 Evo's in my home office. Sounds great for the money spent
@buckrogers5331
@buckrogers5331 10 ай бұрын
Very good review; and very glad you bought the power supply for the FiiO R7. It does make a difference.
@iJmoney210
@iJmoney210 10 ай бұрын
Does the PL50 power supply allow you power passive speakers on the Fiio?
@buckrogers5331
@buckrogers5331 8 ай бұрын
@@iJmoney210 No.
@UlTiReV
@UlTiReV Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the good review as always. Interested to see your take on where WiiM sits in this streamer face off. Take care!
@steveking6506
@steveking6506 Жыл бұрын
Im just glad that one of them had a "more satisfying knob feel"! Yep, im a child!
@KITFLETCH1
@KITFLETCH1 Жыл бұрын
This video was interesting not least because it goes to the very heart of the value of your assessments: most of us can’t do a side by side comparison and having yours and the frank analysis is enormously helpful though it is still like one of those cooking competitions on TV: better if we could taste it too!
@divadgnol67
@divadgnol67 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that review. As I'm in the market all of this info helps inform me to make an educated decision
@johnnytran1067
@johnnytran1067 Жыл бұрын
This is a top tier review John. I was a little sceptical about the Eversolo as there is a little too much youtube influencer consistency for it (and for some other products like the Galion). Good to hear it is a fine product.
@mobill49
@mobill49 Жыл бұрын
Great review John! Loving my Fiio R7 with the PL50.
@IRON_PANDA
@IRON_PANDA Жыл бұрын
Absolutely great comparisons, thank you for the review! For me the R7 WITH the external PSU would be the choice based on this comparison. I will think about it seriously when considering my next desktop upgrade. I was pretty keen about the HDMI on the DMP-A6, but without eArc/Arc, i think it's a hit and a miss from Eversolo when we are talking about living room situations. If i was upgrading something for my living room, it would be the Node X from this bunch. The Node is still one of the best bang-for-buck products out there with the excellent sub management, smartphone integration and HDMI implementation, alas the Eversolo would be the last one for me on this shortlist.
@adsph
@adsph Жыл бұрын
Well done review. Seems there are differences although small. Not to mention subjective. Keep up the great work.
@2shoestoo
@2shoestoo Жыл бұрын
I received mine yesterday 7/29 all I can say is WOW it’s pretty good
@Simplyveej
@Simplyveej Жыл бұрын
This begs the question - what would the Eversolo sound like with a linear power supply, and how would that compare with the FIOS plus power supply.
@UKTonyMagill
@UKTonyMagill Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I'm seeing regular complaints about the A6's software, as if it's not ready for prime time. That's something else to consider against the Fiio.
@PixelViking
@PixelViking Жыл бұрын
No software is ever ‘ready’. The Eversolo has received countless firmware updates over the few months it’s been available. They are constantly adding functions and listening to the customer’s comments and wishes on their forum. I for one prefer a ‘work in progress’ with lots of improvements over brands who think that their software is already ‘prime time’… If you don’t constantly change and move on, you’re dead…
@BobbyBass-x6i
@BobbyBass-x6i Жыл бұрын
John thanks for another review. Appreciate the side by side comparisons. Please keep them coming!
@PhillioDoede
@PhillioDoede Жыл бұрын
I really like the looks (including the VU meters on the Eversolo), and how their software works compared to the FiiO. I feel like I'd probably like the sound of FiiO more but the FiiO dosen't look like it belongs with full sized audio gear. What I'd really like to see is Eversolo take the feature set of the DMP-6 and build a pre-amp around it, or make stripped down version that is just a streamer and make a separate pre-amp.
@AudioTnT
@AudioTnT Жыл бұрын
It's sort of a preamp w volume control and digital inputs. I'd like an analog input (for a phono stage).
@dariuszsalamon9441
@dariuszsalamon9441 Жыл бұрын
@@AudioTnT that will digitize your phono signal
@whitehatbob4153
@whitehatbob4153 Жыл бұрын
FiiO R7's remote RM3 is Bluetooth, not IR as stated, and really works well and does not have to be pointed at the R7 and has ZERO lag with a really clever "mouse" key.
@SpuddySpud
@SpuddySpud Жыл бұрын
You need a separate video about satisfying knob feel
@WeeWeeJumbo
@WeeWeeJumbo Жыл бұрын
Patrons-only / NSFW
@carloc8763
@carloc8763 Жыл бұрын
I am really glad to hear that the Eversolo has the more satisfying knob feel!
@marcomanunta7702
@marcomanunta7702 Жыл бұрын
Well I don't think the Linear Power supply lets you control the fiio from your couch does It?
@akila219
@akila219 Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! The Eversolo looks like the HIFI Rose Network Streamer I was listening to my local hifi store here in San Diego.
@philipcham2574
@philipcham2574 Жыл бұрын
im sold then,the eversolo has the most satisfying knob feel ,who cares how it sounds 😂
@markwilliamson4834
@markwilliamson4834 Жыл бұрын
Props for Grant Lee Buffalo's perfect Mighty Joe Moon LP!
@chrispnw2547
@chrispnw2547 Жыл бұрын
These devices (while attractive) are dependent on an operating system that may be redundant sooner than expected. Is there any manufacturer committed to Over The Air (OTA) updates to ensure a specific lifetime of usability for similar devices?
@Eugene737
@Eugene737 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure I understand the redundant comment. Can you elaborate?
@mr.b4444
@mr.b4444 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, just from what you said about the EverSolo having a slightly brighter sonic personality I would go for it. I currently own a Cambridge Audio Azure 851N and to me it sounds a little dull compared to similar units in it's price range. It's solidly built but I prefer a more detailed sound that tends to lend itself better to jazz and classical. I don't stream, I play FLAC files from an SSD. The EverSolo may be just what I'm looking for.
@gregorydavid5894
@gregorydavid5894 Жыл бұрын
Great job John, while I won't buy either, except maybe as gift to my son, I know which one I would buy and not worry about the decision at all. Grey is now black and white :)
@edwoodsnowden
@edwoodsnowden 2 ай бұрын
Great comparison, just discovered your channel as looking at the Eversolo and how refreshing to see clear concise comparison and information. No waffling or b*llshit! Subbed!
@briantooze3415
@briantooze3415 Жыл бұрын
I have been considering getting a PL50 PSU to go with my Fiio K7 (desktop headphone DAC and Amp) but had not seen anyone comment on the potential improvement to the sound quality. Thank you very much for adding it to your review.
@eddiecotter7201
@eddiecotter7201 Жыл бұрын
From what I've read and seen on KZbin the pl50 does help with improving the sound as it cleans the lines as it were and lowers the noise floor as John mentioned in this video and I saw another video on KZbin that says the same
@danielc5191
@danielc5191 Жыл бұрын
I had a violinist to come over to my place to tell the difference between connecting the PL50 to the R7 versus no R7 and he told me that the difference can be heard immediately when we connected the power supply to the R7. Personally I felt that it was a 20% increase in performance. To him it was day and night. Mileage might vary. Subjective, but cheap upgrade.
@abxaudiophiles
@abxaudiophiles Жыл бұрын
PS- Eversolo literally told me that the Master edition has slightly better clock and op amps. They then followed that statement with "probably no difference in sound"... I wasn't expecting that.. LOL
@delvalle9256
@delvalle9256 Жыл бұрын
So… Schiit Urd review coming? Looking forward to that review
@stevenyu8182
@stevenyu8182 Жыл бұрын
Great review! But i wold like to know how you feel about using them as transports? Waiting for the written review.
@air870
@air870 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of switching to the Eversolo ( from a RPi - 7" Display + Pi2AES ) after seeing various reviews of the DMP. I did think about the Bluesound but wanted a display. I personally like the VU meters but agree that better ones are needed. I probably will wait a while for the Master edition review with it's better clocks to take a call between the two Eversolos.
@hawgwild5456
@hawgwild5456 Жыл бұрын
Gets my vote with a " satisfying knob feel "!
@plaubelmakina8916
@plaubelmakina8916 Жыл бұрын
Getting a good knob job on an old amp can be expensive.
@Nickhifi88
@Nickhifi88 Жыл бұрын
Great review👍 I do, however find the product a bit hyped in general, since it’s priced to go. In terms of sound, I wouldn’t compare it to what I would call “next level” like some do. You get value for money, for sure, but the sound quality is not more, than you would expect at this price level in general.
@bradbortner2601
@bradbortner2601 9 ай бұрын
Nice reviews!I’ve now tested the eversolo and the node X, both feeding usb on a denafrips ares 2 vs the streamer that gets no audiophile love, a sonos port, feeding into an ifi ipure spidif reclocker (also recommended by Darko Audio). My take always are that both the more expensive streamers sound a bit better in terms of dynamics and soundstage. Nonetheless, I sent them both back and kept the port. Why? It came down to software/app integration and ability to choose music with Alexa. People say that sonos software is better, but it is not just a little difference. Because sonos integrates so many streaming services, it is able to allow universal search. That means you can look for a song, and see which services carry it in which versions. The node X’s search makes you search service by service. I believe the eversolo is similar. The other major issue was lack of slick alexa integration. Eversolo has no voice control. The node X has some, which allows you to control the unit, but does not allow the one thing everyone wants from voice control, the ability to ask for a song from a streaming service and have it play. It felt very 10 years ago that it could not. Ultimately, I thought the port feeding ifi pure 2 into a denafrips DAC sounded about 95+% as good as the other two, and its ease of use was just so much better, I could not move on for the sake of family harmony. Other app problems on the NodeX. It has Idageo for classical music (eversolo does not), but it must reside on the app. It does not have the more polished Idageo connect type ability that Sonos does. That means, for either of the more expensive devises you would have to use airplay if you want to use the native app, which reduces sound quality from CD level. There is the reverse issue for Spotify and the bluesound. You can only use Spotify connect, which is probably one of the reasons the node does not have universal search. It’s cool that the eversolo does Apple Music natively, making it one of the few ways to hear apple in high res without jumping through hoops, but it does not include apple’s classical app, and sideloading it is a substandard experience. I never thought I’d say this, but the higher quality of the software user experience on sonos is going to keep me based in that eco system. If they come out with a better streamer, I’ll likely buy it, but I’ve stopped looking at superior tech in streamers with inferior software experiences. My listening system includes a roguesphinx v3, feeding PSB t2 speakers, and a Schiit Asgard 3 feeding focal clear and hifiman sundara headphones. If I want to listen to high res, i can use my oppo 205, but I almost never do. 😮😮
@dmd7472
@dmd7472 9 ай бұрын
Is this Swahili? The translation isn’t working.
@RogerBergqvist
@RogerBergqvist Жыл бұрын
I am both fascinated and baffled by these products. How much stuff do you need to be able to enjoy music..? And how do you know which product sounds best..? I guess the last one is up to each, but it's starting to get complicated to buy hifi products. I'm almost starting to get into that zone where I don't know if I dare to trust streamed audio. Does it really sound like a CD or vinyl, or has it been tinkered with... Gadgets are fun, but sometimes I have a hard time seeing the logic. Lately it's become that I play a vinyl at home instead and know that this is decently authentic.
@Klont123
@Klont123 Жыл бұрын
Correct me because I don’t know, but isn’t a cd player also just a digital to analog converter?
@dal2258
@dal2258 Жыл бұрын
Nice side 2 side comparison John. Now a Silent Angel product needs to be on your radar. I've heard your schedule is empty for the next couple of months 😅
@christiankogler6547
@christiankogler6547 4 ай бұрын
I watch reviews for all the new streamers that hit the market, see all the features they have...and still wonder, why none of them is usable in a typical home-theatre: There is no Wake-on-WLan, so I must go to the desk an press the button to switch them on. None of them has an HDMI-Out with CEC that can output audio AND switch on the AV-Receiver AND switch it to the correct source AND let me control the volume with the Receiver's remote.
@JulienBourjault
@JulienBourjault Жыл бұрын
Your videos are better and better. Comparing gears should be a must to properly evaluate a product. Impressive work as usual
@salmorreale7900
@salmorreale7900 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting.
@XanderzDad
@XanderzDad Жыл бұрын
Another update released yesterday. Radio Paradise is now a native app. Also lots of other improvements. The speed at which they are improving this streamer is very impressive. It has been faultless for me - whether streaming Tidal, Radio Paradise or playing FLAC / DSD from my NAS.
@jazzgroovedigger
@jazzgroovedigger Жыл бұрын
Thanks John, great video. I think I can install Bandcamp on FiiO R7. Is there a Bandcamp integration on Eversolo? Can it be installed? I know most of your viewers are more interested in Tidal, Qobuz, etc. But what about Bandcamp? What is currently the best device that also supports Bandcamp? I'd really appreciate anyone's feedback or suggestions here.
@JanStraube
@JanStraube Жыл бұрын
Apple Music is my favourite streaming service as well, works great in my iPhone, my Mac, my FiiO M11S... but I'm still attached to cables mostly when I take a serious listen, so AirPlay 2 shenanigans do not surprise me, but still - disappointing to hear about that!
@jonnyfinlay5665
@jonnyfinlay5665 Жыл бұрын
Digging it! Very nice to have the fine differences between products like these discussed. Seems like things are becoming so mature now in the sector that the ‘leaders’ are all making very nice products.
@joenovak6393
@joenovak6393 Жыл бұрын
This is my take, why did you initially pass on the Eversolo then your "Subscribers" knocked on your door pleading you for a review? The "Square" design for FiiO R7? FiiO's product line is "square". Then at the end you added a "Liner Power Supply" to the FiiO R7, that's like ordering a Starbucks Frappuccino, then drinking half, then requesting to add Whip cream with sprinkles. Ordered on June 30th and delivered July 14. Eversolo's built, UI, Sound, Software, Normal screen and ease of use are what others should be jealous for the price range. Software updates will make the Eversolo even better and the Meters are for the 70's Retro style as to the gear that was used and is used.
@mjim7775
@mjim7775 Жыл бұрын
Great review - many thanks! Slightly irrelevant now that I’ve bought, and any very happy with the DMP-A6, but great to hear that you also rate it! Shout out for a review of the Weiss DAC 204 please!
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr
@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr Жыл бұрын
Interesting insight into Apple Music/AirPlay resolution. Why do Apple have to be so opaque about this?
@TheOneMonk
@TheOneMonk Жыл бұрын
To me the most relevant question about these mushrooming devices is: how do these companies support these products, what track record of customer service do they have? I own a flagship product from FiiO. Shortly after its release product support was stopped. Which in the age of app economy means the device will be useless / risky to use in short time. In contrast to this: my future-fi amp is rock solid, it gets relevant updates and I control all the streaming/connect functions via my phone/tablet, which constantly gets relevant security and app upates. The latter approach is initially more expensive. But it’s more sustainable and with that it is cheaper in the long run. It is more secure as it does not introduce a plethora of unmanaged devices to my network. And it certainly is less hassle. Oh, and I can live with the fact that my amp does not have the latest DAC model. The sound experience I optimise in other, more relevant areas.
@ianorigbo7617
@ianorigbo7617 Жыл бұрын
No comparison as streamers?
@StCreed
@StCreed 2 ай бұрын
The problem I have with streamers is that a relatively cheap integrated receiver like the Denon X1800H just outperforms them in every way except arguably the quality of the DAC itself. More options, room correction, more inputs (network, USB, HDMI ARC+CEC, phono, etc.), more outputs (headphone, LFE, etc.), more power (in watts), more supported formats (FLAC, MP3, WAV, etc. but also stuff like Dolby Atmos) ... What really *is* the use case for these DACs anyway? I don't see why I would ever need one.
@jmtennapel
@jmtennapel Жыл бұрын
Thank you very munched for debunking the hype. It is more or less as good as the competition for the same money. Which is good to know.
@badbad2000
@badbad2000 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good review. I would like to see next is digital streamer transports comparison.
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