Johnny and the security guard

[@tipis4hire781]

This scene is pure cinematic beauty. David Thewlis and Peter Whyte bounce off each other in a dance of thought and doubt. The apocalypse is nigh Bri !

[@jameson1761]

@Augustus Blake are you religious

[@ToleVerban]

His name is Peter Wight 🤣

[@stumpynadge]

Probably the best ten minutes of cinema ever. This film, wow. Amazing.

[@perplexalot1615]

This is one of those rare films that changes you.

[@InwardAdventure]

Exactly

[@steobrien2907]

Once u enter that void it's impossible leave it.

[@mikeyb0121]

@NoFapTate you’re under every single video about this film commenting the same thing😂 give it a rest mate

[@gruviax]

why would a movie change you

[@Hopper-gn2ej]

@@gruviax art can make you question your beliefs and give you new ideas

[@Coldnewton]

'Do you think that the Amoeba ever dreamed it would evolve into a Frog' Very deep stuff. Mike Leigh's finest film imo,and quite simple a staggering performance from David Thewlis.

[@fenixfunk5]

I think there's very little hope for him. For all of their scientific and philosophical references Johnny's monologues aren't intelligent in a way that's appropriate to his age. He's an emotionally destroyed, babbling man in a state of emotional arrested development, and he sees the world in conclusions that he would grow out of if he knew how to process his feelings. Intellectually he's really sharp but emotionally he's very far behind, and so his intellect is restrained to as much as his feelings can manage, which is very little. He is obviously filled with some kind of great potential. He's interesting. But he's damaged in a way that would require him to view his beliefs as effects of damage rather than serious ideas to progress into the next stage of growth. So really I think the movie is about his capacity to think like this and subsequently change, and it seems there isn't any. He's projecting his feelings resulting from being abused by his parents onto the world. Everything he says about the world comes from feelings that are actually about himself. Hate, worthlessness, pointlessness. He's a classic abused child who believed his abusers. The feelings are in there, but he's not emotionally intelligent enough to realize what they are, so they're projected out and they become the substance of the world to him. For all his intellect, Johnny is quite naive. He doesn't realize he's applying all his power to feelings, and almost nothing to the actual world. Another interesting thing is that he loses interest in sex when a woman wants to be hurt. It's like he has to be inflicting pain against their will. I wonder did he watch his father abuse his mother and she disempowered him by pretending to want it. Or did Johnny attack his mother and she asked him to do it again and he became disturbed. It could be either, or neither. He also talks up to men and down to women. He tries to teach men things, but boasts to women or just bullies them. He's like a broken little boy who wants to be like his daddy, not old enough to know his father is a bad person, and then from abuse he gets emotionally stuck at the age where he needs his mother only to lose respect for her due to how he saw her as unable to fight back against his father. So now he bullies women only to be disarmed when they turn it into a consenting thing, even if this is done inadvertently. It's quite dark. Especially when it's mixed in with an awesome charisma. Then it becomes absolutely lethal. I don't think there will be a 'next' adventure. I think there will just be another woman. And he will explode with anger again. I doubt he'll change because he thinks he's so smart. He has outgrown his parents in his mind, but not in his feelings. And until he fixes that, this is Johnny.

[@yaboydolphin]

I remember watching this with a mate high after smoking weed and we had to quit during this scene. Rewatched sober and realised what a masterpiece this is. genius

[@NicholasBarthesJohnstontheIII]

I watched it when I was 15, and when it ended. I didn’t get it and I was frustrated. A couple days later the ending made sense and everything clicked. Mike Leigh is one of the best directors ever, and this might be his best movie!

[@ToleVerban]

Grim.

[@rafaelsksousa]

this. is. the. best. film. ever. written.

[@b4_480p]

the whole thing was improvised on day!

[@geraldinedemange541]

Yes

[@JesusIsTheOnlyWayTruthLife]

No.

[@cazb877]

Correct.

[@playlistaccount]

@@b4_480p I don’t think it was... I heard David Thewlis had to try for months to shirk what he endeavoured to become for this role due to obviously knowing the script and practising it for at the very least weeks to properly master his role. I could of course be wrong but based on the profound affect it apparently had on Thewlis to prepare for this character it would make sense logically, unless you are specifically referring to this 1 scene

[@countsmyth]

Saw it nearly 20 years ago. Still one of my favorite films.

[@salomesandroshvili6711]

I will come here after 20 years... maybs

[@countsmyth]

@NoFapTate Never contemplated that before, but I'd imagine Johnny would have ended up dead in an ally way or in jail.

[@stevegong2134]

if i remember right, Brian gets the last word in a later scene, where he says "dont waste your life" and johnny has no answer

[@carlosluis1970]

yes

[@cthulhu8164]

Yeh, arguably that is a defining moment of the character, it shows he isn't inherently evil by being violent etc, but because he genuinely doesn't believe there is an "out" for his life: he is stuck where he is, and others should accept they could be there too, but he is the only one to see it, everyone else has a glimmer of hope, even for him, a 'loser' that he himself believes to be undeserving of hope. fundamentally his issue is he doesnt want, and actively despises, empathy and understanding. As well-read as he is, he can't view the world with anything but hatred and contempt, and so he seeks fulfilment by having those around him view him the same way. at least in my humble opinion.

[@TheMindIlluminated]

This movie has possibly changed my life

[@danielpasterp5837]

What do you mean?

[@tuanjim799]

+Daniel Pasterp Great/profound art has the power to alter one's consciousness and expand one's perception, which in turn leads to new ways of relating to life itself. If you've never had this experience with a piece of art, I feel really sorry for you.

[@danielpasterp5837]

I'm with you about this!!! I love great and profound arts! A deep and profound art could expresses: meaningfulness, feelings and emotions. I'm actually a fan of this movie! The scenes with Brian the security guard and Johnny are for me the best scenes!

[@danielpasterp5837]

I don't believe in reincarnation but I feel philosophically closer to Brian than Johnny. Johnny is full of confusions but he in some scenes says quite interesting smart comments.

[@tuanjim799]

+Daniel Pasterp I think Brian is probably my favorite character in the film. He reminds me of the character Leopold Bloom from James Joyce's Ulysses for some reason. Not quite "old" yet, but aging, and just a really mellow, sweet presence, while also clearly very intelligent and interesting in his own private way. I think on some level Johnny is envious of Brian because he seems to have an inner peace that Johnny has not attained (and perhaps never will).

[@Elusive_Pete]

"I’m not talking about astrology. I’m talking about astronomy!" The best line.

[@ianrobinson4200]

I say a similar thing sometimes "I'm not talking about psychology, I'm talking about psychiatry"

[@vilentman111]

Poor security guard is too sleep deprived for this

[@ZlONIST_OCCUPlED_GOVERNMENT]

Just like the majority of the world.. you can try your best to wake them up, but they are stuck in a dream.

[@Justin-kv8iy]

Found this film randomly. What a trip.

[@mattspencer9702]

Without question, one of the most important conversations ever committed to film. Period.

[@geraldinedemange541]

I have seen that film a least 5 times and this scene 15 times they are great, and the purpose of that dialogue so beautiful and clever.

[@giantgonzalez3831]

How on earth did he not win an Oscar for this?

[@mysteriumconiunctionis5207]

He won best actor at Cannes and personally I find that far more admirable

[@sidolanters1394]

​@@mysteriumconiunctionis5207 agreed. way more meaningful.

[@fatherpaulstone896]

Leave the Oscars to cartoon marvel "moovies" from childish shallow yanks

[@tmrezzek5728]

Once, many years ago, I had a crap, part-time job stuffing envelopes. Most tedious job in America. Yet I killed the time by acting like the security guard here and pretending it had worth, i.e. "Egad! If I don't stuff THIS ENVELOPE, then the person won't receive it and Western Civilization will collapse!" Everyone has felt a bit like Johnny or the guard at some point in life.

[@craigtuohy]

That was one of the most important jobs in the world bro. Not to you, but to every human soul who received that envelope

[@tuanjim799]

Coming into being and passing away, coming into being and passing away

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

"mankind is a component of the device by which the devil creates itself." Holy fuck.

[@tonycairns6728]

Yeah, that's the most disturbing idea in this movie ...

[@tuanjim799]

Gnosticism vibes.

[@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother]

Its a bit wild seeing this again 6 years later given the current political climate and global issues.

[@tuanjim799]

@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybother I know, right? I just watched the film again the other night for the first time in a while, and I was thinking the same thing. Strange days.

[@beastworld8109]

it's a nice portrait of a lumpen intellectual briton intuiting that he's facing an irreversible decline in standards of living. i remember enjoying this a lot when I was a teenager, i thought it was a bit gauche in my 20s but in my 30s I see nothing getting better and many people I grew up with turning into various iterations of Johnny (definitely more so than "the Joker"). i realise now this film was prophetic of many things (least of all this security guard paid to watch over disused space! British labour power in the bitter throes of its own obsolescence! No one can bear to face it now but in 1993 Mike Leigh was fearless!)

[@Padraigp]

Nice comment. Was this during blairs reign. I definitely grew up with this as a sort of background feeling of decline. Untill corbyn and Bernie were in the running for a few months of slight hope. It must have been something to grow up with a sense of progress of a goal of some sort...as time has gone on almost every film and tv show now never has a happy ending...even in our fantasy we can imagine an escape any more...

[@tonycairns6728]

​@@PadraigpPre-Blair, post-Thatcher.

[@theshamanarchist5441]

@@tonycairns6728 The John Major years.

[@B1ushMoe]

My Dad showed me this when i was around 9 in about 1998. He just showed me this scene cause he didn't want to scare me. But i seriously think it shapped who i was as a person. Really changed my life!

[@Todd-_-Umptious]

You opted out on getting the plastic barcode implant we all got in 1999?

[@crownedclown49]

How’s life ?

[@Oseanacoceanblue]

probaly the most cerebral, socially aware, stream/rant………genius acting …….ive ever heard .... like listning to a fucking killing joke song without the distortion and noise. 10/10… even though the predictions are off the ideas and philosophy at hand is brilliant.

[@sullybiker6520]

I really do not find this film easy to watch. It's touching on so many levels, and very, very human.

[@tiearts]

7:51 one of my favourite moments of this scene: though the whole sequence is incredible! This is one of the best films ever made IMO

[@richardgajdos8943]

the orb brought me here. amazing movie!

[@desilusor]

Something like that happened to me. I saw this film all by myself when I was 12. Just watched the entire thing without realising how it would shape me in years to come.

[@ericsaguirre]

you with me?

[@pissedinperu]

"Man isn't the be all and fookin end all" Hallelujah, bring on the "great leap forward", the more I understand man, the less I like mankind.

[@markgreet3543]

You know cashless society this film is more relevant now than it was then accept one thing we live in a digital age that blocks out reality in a way but still has loads of advantages for the future generation

[@gabrielvalencia1287]

best part of the movie

[@xXKentaRaptorXx]

"you know what this is?" "A Dadaist Nun?"

[@TM-id5yy]

This film is art

[@theshamanarchist5441]

This film is life.

[@travjt2]

If this film didn’t exist, Remus Lupin wouldn’t exist because this was how he got to play Remus Lupin

[@tonycairns6728]

One of my favourite scenes in any movie. It contains the most disturbing idea - "Mankind is just a component of the device by which The Devil creates itself". It's interesting how Johnny admits the possibility of goodness in the world but, ultimately, can't allow for anything except a wrathful, 'Old Testament' God. I think the character reveals, unconsciously, an answer to his own problem. But his pessimism, or nihilism, has become so extreme there's no way out.

[@tonycairns6728]

​@NoFapTateThe ending of 'Naked' reminded me of the ending of 'Notes From Underground', by Dostoevsky. Both characters are progressing into a deeper-and-deeper self-destructive intellectual spiral.

[@tonycairns6728]

@NoFapTate What did you imagine might come next?

[@throwachair]

holy shit, this is an explanation of the 21-30 reset scam.

[@suhibalazeeh7559]

Joker is for teenagers this guy is the real thing

[@suhibalazeeh7559]

@Lifetime existenalist vs nihlist ?

[@schmolywar]

Dude that was my thoughts also!

[@itsallgoodman4108]

@Phineas Griffin existentialist for sure

[@suhibalazeeh7559]

Maybe both because he is saying that by participating to the self fulfulling prophecy of apoclapyse which is an utter nihlism itself.

[@markgreet3543]

Peter is great in this he has a good dialogue

[@danielperr1071]

Very interesting movie!

[@LazerPinkSyd]

Best scene ever

[@Oseanacoceanblue]

Seventeenth century litte dutch girl living in a windmill, love it.

[@almadelatierra5153]

who is he referencing to

[@carlosluis1970]

"We are not important, we are just a crap idea! " facts!

[@lugie69]

Fucking gut wrenching scene. And its made even more gut wrenching by the amount of people in the comments hailing Johnny as some kind of intellectual. A man trying to find meaning in his existence and wanting to share that existence and meaning with someone else, spat on by an insect who's only ability in life is to eat and regurgitate himself. Therefore he must cause as much despair to anyone within a 10 ft radius who will allow it. Johnny is not a genius nor an antihero. He is simply a pathetic man, falling, and trying to take everyone with him.

[@fenixfunk5]

Yes, absolutely. I also think it's worrying that people here listen to him. If he knew how to emotionally grow he would progress past all these ideas.

[@urlittlewindmill]

“The end of the world is nigh bri” 😭

[@GP-op4yt]

'When the third angel blows her bugle...'

[@markgreet3543]

Peter played a pimp in a drama called meat really good 1994 I saw this film 1995 one of the greatest movies ever johnny is a highly articulate loner who really so good it's amazing film sad in parts but still very interesting it's dark and gritty two others films I like raining stones and London kills me back in the mid 1990s both these films were all one the first times all were very good movies

[@skinnypuppy95]

Where can Meat be seen? I can’t find it. There are other episodes from Screen One available but not that one.

[@markgreet3543]

@@skinnypuppy95 to be honest it was on youtube, but full movie was taken down, you could try daily motion or maybe its somewhere on the net, there is a very brief clip on youtube, its worth a watch its very gritty, sad, and real in parts kind regards.

[@helfmeyerglenn491]

Awesome monologue. Bleak though it is....

[@markgreet3543]

The music is so lovely johnny has great dialogue amazing knowledge and very large vocabulary that he seems to be a wordsmith but bitter and twisted rather than boring and dull.he laughs at some of the clowns he meets but does so the danger of steetlife and real lack of intelligence these people he speaks o a concise level most of the time but still is in a bad way but able to question the whole meaning of life and still is a doommonger that's say life ends in 1999 when I heard once it was 2020.however when covid came in this world it again had left a sort of bad vibe with jobless and general fear and sadly lost of life that if you watch this film you can relate to the dark side of life but still see this guy is a survivor no matter what happens

[@coryandersen9643]

Best movie!!

[@DeepScreenAnalysis]

Johnny would be one of those internet conspiracy theorists 25 years on.

[@DuchessOfStratosphere]

he was ahead of his time

[@danieldiver11]

I haven't watched this for 30th+ years, but I remember turning on the TV and hearing Ewen Bremer screaming, and watching Thewlis observing everything, And thinking, WTF is this?!

[@hectorlagos8937]

like john lydon said... nnooooo fuuuture for yooooouuuuu!!

[@slinkdot]

Class!

[@1800astra]

Bri's defeated 'yeah' at the end is the only possible response to Johnny's endless rant of a world-view. How would 2022 categorise Johnny? Dangerous alt-right narcissist, or bug-eyed conspiracy 4channer? Back in the day, we were simply relieved that we didn't have to endure an extended dose of the Johnny while we went about our mundane and irrelevant existence. Naked is a deeply troubling, nightmare odyssey that makes for a difficult watch, but is also a revelation, like inhabiting the mind of an angry and cynical stranger whose anger and cynicism infects everything it touches.

[@thetruth4654]

And every year we are getting closer to this through the digital health passports and microchips this will all happen after the coming cyber attack due to the Cyber Polygon through The World Economic Forum

[@jmj540]

Brian's a very calm fellow, I would have been kicking Johnny's ass if he talked to me like that.

[@TiwazGoudsnor]

dude he just wants to smoke relax a bit

[@connor25]

The future is now, he is so right... its fucked and in 2022 he was not far wrong about the bar code.

[@sethlinnell5825]

Mark of the beast was BG update card.. I thought that was it but it's a precursor to the real thing...

[@rustyshackelford934]

Lolz Johnny is the biggest buzzkill.

[@user-jr3dx7wl6j]

Fuck me, good acting that

[@mellisb]

Ever get the feeling your being followed?

[@CaptainBluebear08]

From 01:01 on, is kind of a summit of the two philosophers... : ]

[@craigtuohy]

The sequel to my dinner with andre

[@ShadowSearchers]

"Lupin...taking a walk...in the moonligh-t"

[@AndreasKlanzer2384]

FACT!

[@redisnotblue]

Politics are a cruel mistress.

[@strideryoko]

The Orb S.A.L.T

[@djquiz6425]

Someone upload the whole movie pls! I haven't seen it in years.

[@SoloNecr0zis]

It's on youtube now my friend, search for the title + "complete"

[@theshamanarchist5441]

That's all the neurotic End of The World crap that existentialist nihilists were worrying about as the century came to a close. I was the same back then. Turns out the future was (planned out to be) far more sinister than we ever could have fathomed back then, as the barcode dialogue alludes to (the 'cashless society'). Great bit-a-banter. I can seriously relate to these kinds of encounters ha ha.

[@MattTheSpratt]

i still don't know what this dadaist nun is specifically

[@markgreet3543]

Again sorry about spelling mistakes

[@drstevie]

Immense.

[@markgreet3543]

Good trys to fight all evil

[@garryaldridge4655]

The omelette stinks...

[@honban]

this was moderately better than transfirmers III

[@markgreet3543]

He sounds about twenty years older with all his wisdom

[@ianrobinson4200]

I think he was supposed to be, Thewlis was playing younger than his age. He's supposed to be 27 in this movie. Peter is probably playing a few years older, 20 years seems about right

[@Edushkas]

And in this alternative existence did you have the same obnoxious body odour? - not an insult but a very good question

[@Edushkas]

Mark of the Beast: Deutsche Mark?

[@robertjsmith]

sympathy for the Devil

[@АртемСлободянюк-у5т]

4:16 russian translation for wormwood isn’t Chernobyl, because chornobyl is ukrainian word and ukrainian city

[@АртемСлободянюк-у5т]

but yeah in ukrainian wormwood translates as chornobyl

[@markgreet3543]

But does it ??

[@RobynJames55]

USED ON NICK WARRENS GLOBAL UNDERGROUND 24 AMZING !

[@Azazello1482]

Just listened to that today for the first time in like 20 years. I had always wondered where the speech came from. Today I got around to googling it.

[@keukuatsheu7107]

günlük doz

[@carpenoctem796]

günlük doz

[@ZlONIST_OCCUPlED_GOVERNMENT]

I remember watching this as a teenager.. and I was quite shocked in the same way as I was shocked when watching the Threads film. It’s films like this that make you think about how insignificant the human life really is.. and how we live in denial, as if our self important lives are untouchable.. But just look at the last 3 years.. Bill Gates, Fauci and Schwab and the NAZI Great Reset.. I think Johnny was correct in his thinking..

[@danielpasterp5837]

0:53!

[@zzlucaszz6059]

FAAAAAAAAACTS!!!!

[@Edushkas]

69 + 1 = 666? Or rather 616

[@vinayseth1114]

I don't understand why people in the comment section are claiming to have been moved by this film. All I see are the pointless travails of an aimless deluded character that's a conspiracy theory nut (The 666 barcode claim has been thoroughly debunked since then by the way- the 2 lines that act as dividers in a barcode are different from the bars for '6' as the latter contain a space to the left or right or contain a thick line, depending upon its position in the code).

[@773SleepyHollow]

You're just mad that God doesn't love you.

[@tuanjim799]

So what, Vinay? You’re missing the entire point of the film. It’s an exploration/portrait of the human condition. Each character represents different aspects of human experience, different personalities/temperaments/philosophical outlooks.

[@patrickdowney2523]

You don't understand people so. Maybe you think you are intellectually superior. I'm feeling that vibe, from your comment. Btw, have you checked if that has always been the case, for the bar code, or, could it have been changed to throw off 'conspiracy theorists'? 🤓

[@Ian24s]

Get over yourselves

[@vinayseth1114]

Same arguments in the beginning as the Advaita philosophy.

[@Jepicus]

Really hate how well all of this was done until the "God is hateful God, why do bad things happen" etc. Why should we not deal with misery and suffering on earth? If Earth was a paradise, what would be the point of Heaven? And I like that Johnny rebukes himself by then asking the opposite "But if good things happen, maybe he isn't hateful", but then immediately goes on to conclude it's so good is overcome by evil, without considering the opposite as he did just a moment earlier: that God wants us to overcome evil by being good. At the end of the day, the director is of a particular ethnoreligion that doesn't particularly like putting Christianity in a good light...

[@dancurtis8476]

Is it "better" that evil exists, so that good can overcome it? Or is it better to do away with suffering? Is hunger necessary to validate feeling full?

[@Jepicus]

@@dancurtis8476 Yes. One cannot exist without the other.

[@dancurtis8476]

@@Jepicus so therefore the suffering of children who live a whole short life of pain, for instance being born addicted to heroin, then contracting cancer, then dying at 4 years old, is warranted, so that other people can feel fleeting joy?

[@Jepicus]

@@dancurtis8476 It doesn't matter how extreme and hyper emotive you make your hypotheticals, the answer is yes, regardless of ideology. But you must also understand from a theistic point of view, 4 years of the worst suffering imaginable is an inconsequential nothing in the face of eternal paradise. 100 years of suffering is still nothing. No length of miserable lifetime can be compared to an infinite period of comfort and joy.

[@TGDTGD]

@@Jepicusthe idea you would birth people into a world to “test” if they’re worthy of an idealistic eternal heaven is beyond absurd. It’s fine on a philosophical level but if you actually believe it it’s insanity.