Johnny Harris Lied in his Military Spending Video

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Go to ground.news/Ryan to stay fully informed. Subscribe through my link for 50% the Vantage plan for unlimited access only for the holiday season. This is their biggest sale of the year! Go to www.aeromedlab.com/ if you want to learn more about how we are saving soldiers lives. Watch my "Exposing the Military Industrial Complex" video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWPKenyaZsmjetU What the Original Johnny Harris video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6KtYZ6dbt2pgtU In this video, I examine journalist Johnny Harris' claims in "Why the U.S. Military Spends So Much Money" and reveal 9 significant inaccuracies or oversights. Many of you asked me to respond, and after reviewing the video, I found substantial misinformation and missing context in Harris's narrative. From misconceptions about the F-35 and defense spending to misleading ideas about consolidation, lobbying, and the "military-industrial complex," Harris paints a one-sided picture without consulting experts with actual military or defense industry experience. All proof can be found for free at RyanMcBeth.Substack.com For uncensored video, check out my substack at: ryanmcbeth.substack.com Like my shirts? Get your own at: www.bunkerbranding.com/pages/ryan-mcbeth Want a personalized greeting: www.cameo.com/ryanmcbeth Watch all of my long form videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLt670_P7pOGmLWZG78JlM-rG2ZrpPziOy Twitter: @ryanmcbeth Instagram: @therealryanmcbeth BlueSky @ryanmcbeth Reddit: /r/ryanmcbeth Join the conversation: discord.gg/pKuGDHZHrz Want to send me something? Ryan McBeth Productions LLC 8705 Colesville Rd. Suite 249 Silver Spring, MD 20910 USA

[@BorKagan777]

He is kind of famous with his spins

[@iKvetch558]

Hi Ryan...I wanted to bring to your attention that Johnny Harris and many others have also lied repeatedly about how many overseas bases the USA has. They claim we have 800 of them, but they hugely padded the number by counting large bases as multiple segments. For instance, Diego Garcia is a single huge base, but Harris et al count it as 12 or 15 different bases just because there are 12 or 15 different administrative segments. They do this with Rammstein, Thule, Guantanamo, and every other US military base...they count the adminstravice sections of every base, instead of counting a whole base as 1 installation. People need to know how they are being lied to.

[@billlansdell7225]

Please make a video addressing some disinformation that I see at lease 10 times per day on Twitter -- that Ukraine is about money laundering.

[@jaydee6268]

Does bunker branding offer and whiskey tumblers per chance?

[@JS-ti8ny]

Hi ikvetch Are they really “lying” as you imply or are they just misinforming? Ryan uses irrelevant metaphors constantly but I don’t see you complaining about that form of misinformation. Just saying if you going to be a useless bægël Ëater at least be consistent.

[@Valkyier911]

"The problem with Johnny Harris is that he sounds like he knows what he's talking about until he talks about something you know about”…truer words have never been spoken

[@Sturmjager]

I remember my friends and I had the same realization about Elon Musk after he took over Twitter and started talking about why it was so inefficient.

[@TheTurboHO]

A young Peter Z

[@semicolon101]

@@Sturmjager weird that twitter is still running for over a year with ‘skeleton’ staff hey?

[@spelunkerd]

This generally applies to all situations where experts in a field know more about a situation than journalists do. On the other hand, generalists such as journalists don't have an axe in the fire, there is no selfish motivation to want one side to prevail. Journalists on the other hand have motivation to make their video more entertaining, which often aims to provoke intense feeling. There's no easier way to do that than to present a one sided argument.

[@RedAndYellacuddlyFella]

I'm glad someone is calling out Johnny Harris. He used to work for Vox, who make highly polished videos on a variety of subjects. He quit Vox and started his own KZbin channel doing the same thing. He is insufferable. People are lured in by his fancy looking graphics and are tricked into thinking the man knows what he's talking about.

[@johnpijano4786]

Johnny Harris has gotten the anger of 1) Ukraine War experts. 2) Economists (PhD) 3) Historians. 4) Globalism experts. It's rare for one man to get the anger of so many types of people independently.

[@Commander1327]

Don’t forget Christians!

[@shadician]

His videos also have a massive reach. Just because people are annoyed doesn't mean they are right, or that all of his stuff is wrong.

[@Commander1327]

@@shadician It’s not that people don’t agree with his viewpoints. It’s that he often trivializes or blatantly lies about his content.

[@ChristoffRevan]

​@@shadicianBut once your integrity has been questioned on one video, then everything else needs to also be taken into question. Everyone makes mistakes, but the thing is - he almost NEVER acknowledges them, and instead doubles down on his erroneous material. It's been shown for many of his videos that he either has faulty sources, or a severe lack of them in the first place, and he lets his political bias heavily cloud his conclusions. He's really not worth watching

[@JS-ti8ny]

“ It's rare for one man to get the anger of so many types of people independently.” Not when they are all the same entity 🫠. ps you forgot the Military Industrial Complex and Global Media control.

[@millard022]

Worst part about people lying is that it takes seconds to do. And then it can take hours to expose.

[@atrlawes98]

A lie travels half way around the world before the truth can put its shoes on

[@truthseeker308]

Like "Mexico will pay for the wall" "Tariffs are things that other countries pay" "Our economy is in the toilet" "Gangs are taking over apartment buildings, regardless of what the local police say" "Haitians are eating pets" "the Left is making illegal immigrants vote 18 times" etc etc etc. And then you get elected POTUS.

[@jaredmccain7555]

On a recent channel 5 video, which I do like channel 5 btw, someone said that 50 percent of the US budget is going to military and the video made it seem like it was true. I looked it up and it was wrong and it only took a quick Google search, real bruh why can't you check this moment. It's like 13 percent btw.

[@lubricustheslippery5028]

Listening on this video, I don't see any clear lies, Ryan is more confirming that what Jonny Harris is kind of true. Content angled in different ways but not clear lies. And Ryan is also not objective and this time got more emotional than analytical. Hearing stuff like the military R.D. is as much as the Morocco GDP, sounds lower than I thought. Stuff like that an diaper company have bigger earnings than big weapons company sounds reasonable. I think it's more important that baby buts keeps dry than killing more people. The countries with higher % military budgets is crazy ones with dictators or in war situations, with the exception of Poland that is doing an big spending because of the obvious increased threat levels and the spending is not supposed to be permanent.

[@douglasbillington8521]

A lie can also get into the white house before the truth is out of bed.

[@James-kn6om]

If you think a 40 page grant for $75,000 is bad, wait until you find out that education, arts, and healthcare organizations often have to fill out the same amount of paperwork or more for only $6,000.

[@Wezborg]

For real. Grant writing is such a mind-numbing process.

[@James-kn6om]

@@christiangrosjean2980 you're going to look really dumb if you went around polling people whether they think $6,000 for a STEM project for students is a better way to spend the governments' money or hundreds of thousands of dollars for research for the Hellfire R-9X, which has only been used effectively on less than 10 people.

[@James-kn6om]

@@christiangrosjean2980 agreed. STEM education is far more legitimate that hundreds of thousands of dollars for R&D of a hellfire missile that uses blades, which will be used on less than 20 people.

[@oxey_]

​@@christiangrosjean2980logically i want to say the legitimate use is education, but the video is about the military. which one will it be?

[@James-kn6om]

@christiangrosjean2980 I'd rather spend more money on education, arts, and healthcare than research and development for the Hellfire R9X which is rarely used. I think most Americans probably feel the same way. Especially when you explain what the R9X is and that you can count the number of times we've used it with your fingers and toes.

[@Taskandpurpose]

Been waiting for this one Ryan, love it !

[@johnbacon4997]

How can a regular civ combat propagand like this?

[@razvanciobotaru3089]

👍👍👍

[@pyeitme508]

Hi 👋

[@InsertUsername-xe4cq]

Never expected you to be here!

[@investor_mazi]

Bro you’re here 😂

[@ApeRSV4]

Johnny lies about a LOT of shit.

[@amit5249]

cause he's saying stuff people wanna hear.. which alot of them are lies.

[@jaybaybay0]

It's part of his elder hipster personality, He can't help it.

[@arreca09]

his Israel/Palestine video is TERRIBLE .

[@ethancohen12]

@@arreca09The guy omits important ass context which would completely change the BS pro-Palestine narrative…

[@arthur1670]

Script writers in his 11 person team

[@MandM_IMO]

Calling Johnny Harris a journalist is a real streeeeeetch.

[@projekcja]

I'd call him a Propagandist.

[@seacucumberable]

Importantly, it's not. He actually _is_ a journalist. But he's a journalist whose gone rogue, offleash, he's his own editor, and that's bad because there clearly isn't someone to soberly and critically review the work before it goes out. That's why news orgs. the reputable ones, have editorial boards. And That's why it's important to give him shit. He's an actual journalist by training and profession and working background, but now he doesn't have any sort of senior editorial board and his channel needs cash, they're under time pressure to push out content.

[@IJusaI]

Just watch his "UFO" video and laugh... its so bad.

[@JS-ti8ny]

His “journalism” is his Truth. And indeed there is plenty to disagree with.

[@bo1341]

@@seacucumberable couldn’t agree more. Like Ryan said about human errors, I don’t think he is pushing lies to intentionally mislead people. I understand it as a lack of peer review and perhaps a problematic environment inside the company.

[@2Cerealbox]

P&G doesn't "sell diapers," they sell damned near everything. They have a massive fucking product line, from common, every-day items to highly specialized ones. I like your channel, but if you're going to do throw stones, makes sure its not in a glass house.

[@1986arseny]

'if you're going to throw stones, make sure that you don't live on a glass house'. And what he meant is that a single company is bigger than the alleged Military Complex. Also, I do believe that the bigger expense isn't going straight into equipment. But I digress. I rather have facts, than what I want to hear. Ryan does an excellent job at unmasking snake oil sellers, and plain foreing agents born in the very USA.

[@kristofburek264]

... But they _do_ sell diapers, right?

[@pansepot1490]

Look up “hyperbole” in the dictionary.

[@CarrotConsumer]

It was a misleading and poor use of hyperbole.

[@boredphysicist]

Its like trying to say big pharma doesnt exist because "The coal industry, who just sell bits of old tree, is larger than the medicine industry" He also argues Military lobbying isnt real just because one of the 4 most valuable companies in the entire world spends more lobbying than one single defense company

[@winfordnettles3292]

I unsubscribed from Johnny Harris channel due to inaccurate information in his videos.

too much budget in edition, not so much in information value

[@Unknown-r2p2o]

Military industrial complex is real and to say it’s not real make no sense there are companies that make weapons and to say they control all wars is probably wrong but they likely do have influence in business of war so say it’s not real inaccurate

[@vyvianalcott1681]

@@Unknown-r2p2o What is the market cap of Lockheed Martin? Raytheon? Boeing? What's the market cap of Apple, McDonalds, Amazon, and WalMart? War is bad for trade. Military contractors do not have nearly enough money to do what you're suggesting.

[@HRM.H]

Literally every video of his is extremely biased or filled with miss-information

[@cowmath77]

As did I, he once said humans make their own vitamin C…

[@mentaltoothpaste8272]

Saying Procter & Gamble is a diaper company is like calling Nestle a chocolate milk company. Titans in their respective industries is all Im saying

[@verttikoo2052]

And Johnson and Johnson is lubricant company 👍

[@onothankyou]

Agreed, I didn't think diapers was the comparison he was going to make, that's how many products he had to choose from. But it was a funny one!

[@grospipo20]

This is what ryan mcbeth does!

[@samuelkey1185]

Procter & Gamble has at least 42 different brands operating under their umbrella globally, the fact that they are extremely profitable does not disprove the military industrial complexes existence. Never mind the fact that numerous brands under the P@G umbrella have had and currently have defense contracts.

[@grospipo20]

@@samuelkey1185 I think we agree here

[@m.a.118]

On one hand, yes Johnny Harris is pretty bad. On the other Ryan is directly or tangentially connected to denfense industries and intel communities... Not shocked that Harris would be wrong about a lot, also Ryan saying the military industrial complex doesn't exist, is like hearing an Exxon spokesperson deny climate change...

[@user-wy2fu4un8r]

Took the words right out of my mouth! This video makes me feel a bit different about Ryan, seems shady

[@boredphysicist]

His logic is that the military industrial complex doesnt exist because: A) The top 4 defense contracters generate less revenue than Procter and Gamble... which btw isnt true B) Other industries like Tech (most of the 10 largest corporations on eath), and Oil+Gas (the 2nd largest industry in the World) are bigger

[@Theanimeisforme]

​@@user-wy2fu4un8r he always been shady, I think the most shady was the Israel issue and either trying to protray it in a vacuum or tackling lowest hanging fruit, similar to ther agenda drives, like atun shei.

[@bazza2540]

@@boredphysicist Its not the amount of money, its the fact it all comes from government contracts, not private industries

[@benjamingreenberg9373]

​@boredphysicist no, his point is that it doesn't exist as a coherent, powerful group. There use to be a united, powerful lobby referred to as "the military industrial complex" but it's not powerful or united like that anymore. We spent a lot of money on the military when we fought people, and then we spent less money cause we thought we wouldn't have to fight anyone anymore. But now, we may have to fight someone again so we need the money to get ready to fight china. There was corruption and bad stuff before, and there may be again, but if you want a military you need to spend the money.

[@TroyanTF3]

The point about tech stocks being more profitable than military stocks is awful. Johnny Harris didn't say that military stocks are the most profitable. He said that it's bad that the people in charge of deciding funding for these companies personally make more money when they give these companies more. People in the government shouldn't have monetary incentives that align with companies that are entirely propped up by government spending.

[@username7763]

Very good point. It is just like how non-profit organizations can make 0 profits but the people running them can make a killing.

[@axiom3935]

Politicians shouldn't be able to buy stocks for companies they make decisions on. The problem is not just a military stock problem; it affects all stocks.

[@mangoenjoyer256]

Yeah it's complete whataboutism

[@TroyanTF3]

@@axiom3935 yeah, absolutely

[@LemonSoulz]

McBeth is literally a defense contractor is has incentive to lie bout this shit. idk anyone takes anything he says about the DOD and ther spending seriously when he has just a HUGE incentive to lie about it. CONFLICT OF INTREST.

[@SeaMushroom98]

I don't feel any strong affinity towards either of y'alls content, but I think that its interesting that you call out the "apples to oranges" comparison of comparing defense spending to a national GDP, but you use that same apples to oranges comparison style when comparing the size of P&G to large military contractors. I don't think you can in good faith compare the two without also recognizing you're creating a false equivalence. To put it in your own words: The top 5 defense contractors aren't P&G, bub. We're not the same size, we don't have the same customers, and we don't have the same competitors as P&G. It makes me question how much of the things you say are also the silver tongue of a snake oil salesman...

[@snowballeffect7812]

a "centrist" motivated-researcher with a conflict of interest being a hypocrite? perish the thought!

[@lifeinanutshell7147]

​@snowballeffect7812 Centrists aren't necessarily balanced. The word you are looking for is "unbiased".

[@SeaMushroom98]

@@lifeinanutshell7147 I think they were using that word intentionally to point out that both Ryan and Johnny are pedaling their respective narratives.

[@ashleygoggs5679]

i think you need to read the word satire.

[@Mosfer_aldoseri]

​@@ashleygoggs5679 what satire?

[@Ulrican414]

I have a Master's Degree in political science, and when I was working on my Ph.D one of my professors proposed to the University to establish a course to educate journalists in political science, since he was baffled about all the miss-information on the news all the time. The program never got off the ground because there was no interest from journalists in actually taking that class.

[@jerseyshoredroneservices225]

Same thing happened when a course was proposed that would teach constitutional rights to the cops... 🤔

[@ethancohen12]

Former Poli Sci major here turned journalism major! I couldn’t agree more! OMG, the people who covered the election in my college newsroom have ZERO clue how the electoral college even worked. They had no idea what the swing states were nor how the process of our government or other comparative governments work. It’s insane to me. These are the people that we are supposed to “trust” with disseminating information.

[@realdreamerschangetheworld7470]

@@ethancohen12no knowledge of the workings of the electoral college? Not even swing states… I think your college might be the problem on that one 😂

[@seevideonow]

Also Poli Sci graduate here. One of my main research topics was the weakness of Polisci when it came to talking to other disciplines, especially technology. It's why I love this channel specifically. A lot of Poli Sci theory pulls from economics but is lacking input from other disciplines. How often have we heard politician trying to explain complex technological concepts or security concerns during a congressional hearing and failing? And I'm not even completely faulting them for it, on the other side, someone in who works in software development might create something unaware of the security, political and normative impact it could unleash, which is exactly what we're seeing with AI and social media. Also it makes me laugh at Ryan tangent about the term global hegemon. That term was beaten into my head from professors with different political beliefs. Someone didn't read Enders Game.

[@ReflectedMiles]

I remember the journalism students in college. That's where you went when virtually every other door, even the "soft sciences," were closed to you. The field is not taken nearly as seriously as its role in democracy demands.

[@iOSAT]

“What did Johnny Harris get wrong in his video” needs to accompany every one of his videos. It’s incredibly generous to call him a journalist, he’s a story-teller.

[@texasranger24]

no. He is a storyteller that is partnered and paid by the WEF. so that agenda makes it propaganda, not just any story.

[@iOSAT]

@ So, no, he’s not a storyteller… but yes, he is a storyteller?

[@texasranger24]

@@iOSAT storyteller would be neutral. he would lie for personal gain and fame at worst. he is doing active propaganda for an organisation. it's sooo much worse than just telling a lie. it's telling a lie on purpose to misinform you for the gain of others.

[@iOSAT]

@@texasranger24 storyteller noun sto·​ry·​tell·​er ˈstȯr-ē-ˌte-lər : a teller of stories: such as a: a relater of anecdotes b: a reciter of tales (as in a children's library) c: LIAR, FIBBER d: a writer of stories

[@userer4579]

@@iOSAT Regarding Mr. Harris, I'll take "C: Liar, fibber".

[@stevenkravitz6377]

It's a bit hypocritical to call P&G "a diaper company" with no other context when you spend your entire video blasting Jonny Harris for doing the same thing.

[@metallica4384]

Is it hypocritical when the majority of sales is actually the diapers?

[@jamesdrummond7684]

good thing he didn't. there's valid criticism of johnny for this video, but this isn't one of them. he said they're a company that sells diapers. he didn't call them a diaper company.

[@beerenmusli8220]

If you use quotation marks, quote correctly. Not falsely, like you did, lol

[@stevenkravitz6377]

@@beerenmusli8220 Fair point. I should’ve used single quotes. My point still stands. P&G sells so much more than just diapers. Him implying that the majority of their sales are from diapers is misleading.

[@stevenkravitz6377]

@@metallica4384 it wouldn’t be if that was the case. The following brands are owned by P&G: Always menstrual hygiene products[2] Ariel laundry detergent Bounty paper towels, sold in the United States and Canada Charmin bathroom tissue and moist towelettes[3] Crest toothpaste[4] Dawn dishwashing Downy fabric softener and dryer sheets Fairy washing up liquid Febreze odor eliminator Gain laundry detergents, liquid fabric softener, dryer sheets and dish washing liquid Gillette razors, shaving soap, shaving cream, body wash, shampoo, deodorant and anti-perspirant Head & Shoulders shampoo Olay personal and beauty products Oral-B oral hygiene products Pampers & Pampers Kandoo and Luvs disposable diapers and moist towelettes. The 2014 Financial Report lists Pampers as Procter & Gamble's largest brand.[5] Pantene haircare products SK-II beauty products Tide laundry detergents and products Vicks cough and cold products. Those are just the brands with >$1billion. They own many more smaller companies as well. While diapers may be a plurality, they are not a majority.

[@the215sean]

Calling P&G a diaper company is like calling Apple a headphone company.

[@MixMeMcGee]

Yes. I’d been trying to think of an analogy… I came up with “like calling Amazon a podcast hosting company”

[@I.want.toji.in.me.oml.ughhhhh]

That’s what i was saying, like they make so so much more

[@paigemcara]

For real. They make pretty much every cleaning supply I own and like half of the personal care products I own

[@ProPatria1919]

To be fair, he didn't call P&G "a diaper company". He said that P&G was "a company that sells diapers". He didn't say that P&G sold only diapers or something similar. The idea in this case was to compare the stock prices and he made an example of what was profitable and what not. Just mentioning diapers was a good opposite to "bad greedy defence", demonized by Harris.

[@the215sean]

@ProPatria1919 its disingenuous. The implication is that they're making more selling diapers than defense contractors. I don't agree with Harris, but why call P&G a company that sells diapers?

[@DahVoozel]

The GDP of Morocco is like... 2% the GDP of California.

[@raiderdare7462]

So you’re saying California can become a military superstate.

[@door1479]

​@@raiderdare7462 Cali can't keep the sheets off the streets

[@litoaykiu]

@@raiderdare7462 Economy of Cali would make 5th biggest in the world, bigger than Canada, India or France.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​@@door1479 and now include how a lot of their tax money goes to other "poorer" states

[@willythemailboy2]

@@nikolaideianov5092 Other states ARE poorer. California has money, they just choose where to allocate it poorly.

[@prajwas2004]

I'm a big fan, Ryan, but you haven't done much to dispel myths on costs. 1. Based on GAO, F35 still has very high maintainence costs. Half of the planes aren't operational. If capability was the only criteria to keep planes going, we would still have the Concorde. Everyone would be owning a Maserati or a Range rover :) 2 Israel references for F35! The US Foreign military financing funds these Israeli F35 aircrafts. Taxpayers pay that. And need that tech to fight...who again? Iran? 3. Politicians "investing" in defense contractor stocks over time is not the issue. The issue is when politicians are "trading" for quick gains. Day trading is not prohibited. Look up how many representatives frequently trade. 4. Transperency is still severely lacking. Ok. Older systems need to be fabricated n programmers, testers, operators rehired. Still need to provide the cost and how they reworking it now. Are they making them more modular now? Is stinger which is made by one company, the sole choice? 5. Defense contractors wouldn't be making political contributions and lobbying if it wasn't profitable. Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex. Not some dude you going after !! Eisenhower warned us about runaway defense spending. One of the reasons Soviet union collapsed was this heavy spending on military! F35 allied dots are good for showing on the map. but Canada, Korea, Australia raised concerns on maintainence costs, design flaws.

Thank you. Came here for this. I love to see things challenged, but he makes no real case for any of his responses. More clickbait than anything…

[@soccerguy2433]

You listed a lot of nonsense

[@soccerguy2433]

How much of the Soviet GDP was spent on defense before it's collapse? 🧐

[@shy404usernotfound]

Weird you're in other videos sympathizing with the Russians.

[@Rasputin-p4e]

​​@@shy404usernotfound😃😀😀😀. Yer caught him. Yer sharp.

[@meemaurice]

My mother was a journalist. Months of work, countless hours on the phone, nights and days of intellectual work connecting the dots, meeting with experts, studying some documents to DISCOVER the truth. Johnny is an attractive KZbinr who loves stories and maps but not discovering the truth, just making it up.

[@Grim-mler]

He very much likes a story to tell, whether that story is true or not more so comes down to if it happens to be the coolest one

[@meemaurice]

@@Grim-mler Yeah, perhaps you phrased it better. I agree.

[@sandeep5235]

Attractive, like physical attractiveness? That’s a stretch. Non ugly maybe.

[@meemaurice]

@@sandeep5235 I meant it in the realm of "interesting". English is not my first language, I might have misused the word.

[@while-loop]

He's just making up the $$ numbers in the document provided by the Gov?

[@bartmannn6717]

Lol, you were the first person that came to mind, when I saw Johnny's video! And I was waiting for your response (because, what do _I_ know about this stuff??). Boy, did you NOT disappoint!

[@snowballeffect7812]

unfortunately, he did disappoint a fair number of people, even those who don't like harris. lol.

[@sucraloseUncle]

Johnny is piece of work. I stopped taking him seriously after his "North Korea is not a serious threat" video. He is just another mouth on the internet that cherrypicks information that fits his crap narrative about the world.

[@ralofofriverwood4806]

I mean he's not entirely wrong there, the NK threat is not directly from the state of North Korea but from its much more powerful/capable allies China and Russia. Not even a Nuke from North Korea is a threat to the US, we'd see it launch and shoot it down with the 7 different anti-air/missile platforms we've been designing since the 70s for this exact purpose. But if North Korea invaded South Korea or vice versa, it can spiral out of control extremely quickly and that resulting spiral is where the threat is.

[@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk]

His worst takes never even come close to the blatant stpdty of claiming the military industrial complex doesn’t exist.

[@bigbobabc123]

@@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk ryan is so dumb on this point. makes some vague point about profit and how tech companies make more profit. the name of the game in governmetn contracts is to make costs as high as possible and limit profit (on paper) - this allows you to charge more for contracts. really simple stuff that ryan misses.

[@SianaGearz]

Is it a "serious threat"? Is it imaginable that it won't get flattened by South Korea in minutes flat if they were to try to pull some shit? Though i have little doubt that they might try to pull some shit regardless, and that holding them back from doing that is not something one should just stop.

[@KamBar2020]

Gotta Have REAL Eyes To Realize Real Lies 👀💯

[@adamheiermann2462]

You’re guilty of similar lack of context errors. P&Gs largest segment (both gross revenue and profit) was “Fabric and Home Care”, not the segment that includes diapers…which are related to defense spending how? And your comment about how many pages you need to fill out for a grant isn’t evidence against a military industrial complex, if anything it’s evidence for it. Unnecessary complexity favors the status quo. Who can afford to pay experts with experience filling out complicated government forms? Big contractors with experience filling out complicated government forms. Finally, you want to compare spending to GDP but you fail to compare lobbying budget to market capitalization. Okay, Meta’s is 1.4 trillion and Lockheed’s is 127 billion, so to be equivalent Meta should be spending 11x more, which they aren’t. But it’s a 💩 argument either way. Does JH present an unbiased truth? No. Does Ryan McBeth? Also, no. I wish it was otherwise. Fact checking all these so called sources of truth gets really old. Worse, you’re playing the same game he is, while claiming you’re not. 😔

[@Kwirts]

Yea a lot of this guys points don’t even dispute Harris’s

[@Lofize]

Its sad to see so many commenters just bash and make fun of JH whilst glaringly ignoring the shortcomings of this video's arguments

[@KurtGodel-po3zl]

I agree with your points except for the one about market capitalization. The lobbying budget should instead be compared to the revenue of the company.

[@jumpergamer1913]

That's is one detail and doesn't even dispute his claim lol

[@bower31]

Cope seethe and cry about it

[@jhonklan3794]

Oh come on. Proctor and gamble doesnt just "sell diapers". They're one of the largest conglomerates that owns some of the biggest brands in homecare, pharmaceuticals, and hygiene.

[@PyReDZN]

They're also not taking billions of dollars worth of government subsidies, and to think this guy has the gall to call something a "false equivalence" after spitting that tripe. The boot of the state stays stepping on throats.

[@MW_SE]

I think most people watching this video are aware that P&G don't just "sell diapers", which I believe thus legitimises the use of symbolic simplification in this specific case.

[@jacobbuxton932]

Babe wake up! Ryan Mcbeth dropped his Johnny Harris diss track!

[@gabu8065]

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[@KamBar2020]

Babe: Hold Ya FARD Before Diddy 🤯👀

[@texasranger24]

Johnny Harris - Agenda Contributor The World Economic Forum There i exposed everything he does and stand for. In a two-liner, copied from the official WEF website.

[@shawn576]

Now I start the rabbit hole of other people trashing Johnny Harris. I've never even heard of Johnny until now

[@jacobbuxton932]

@@shawn576I think it was a year ago or something that a bunch of KZbinrs jumped on criticizing Johnny Harris in which he actually made some corrections to his videos. I wonder what will happen now

[@cadennorris960]

Interviewing a peace activist for a supposedly unbiased perspective of military spending just shows he had an agenda from the start.

[@tommcfadden5232]

Everyone has an agenda.

[@shane_rm1025]

I mean if he had some other perspectives it would be reasonable, but everyone he had was anti-military

[@AnthonyMcGowan]

@@tommcfadden5232 I follow his channel and he has made some howlers of errors, I would say his stuff if full of errors that I can see, so how many do I not see since I am not an expert in each field. he is entertaining and interesting enough to make me sometimes go research and find out more, which is not a bad thing. But I would advise anyone to take him with at least a large dose of salt if not several and treat him as an entertainment rather than education. We all have agendas from our personal history and upbringing and to make factual content our logic and reason has to overrule our emotions.

[@KamBar2020]

Say that to Andrew Bustamente 😮

[@capitalist4life]

Sure, but on the other hand, interviewing someone from the pentagon would indicate an agenda too.

[@HelloThere-xx1ct]

As a former defense lobbyist (we like to call it government relations) the truth is somewhere in-between the situations Ryan and Johnny present. Like all complex things, they are more grey than black or white.

[@romanstingler435]

tell us more

[@theexterminator1]

Ryan is full of s*** Comparing with diaper companies is stupid There's only a couple companies and they have a Monopoly on the market So yeah diaper companies make a fortune make a fortune and these politicians they know when to invest in these military tech companies. When to get in once I get out and make a fortune just more cherry picking from Ryan Macbeth and I am very pro-military but I smell this guy's BS a mile away he's a profiteer of War if soldiers don't bleed he doesn't make any money

[@jerseyshoredroneservices225]

​@@romanstingler435 I can give you one example from current events although I'm not a former lobbyist... I don't have the time to give a list of citations so you'll have to fact check... Some politically and financially motivated pundits and politicians have created a narrative that Chinese consumer and enterprise drones are a threatto US national security. Why would they do that? There's been no substantiating evidence presented and to the contrary there have been several independent audits that show no threat. As far as I can tell the narrative started from so-called experts trying to make a name for themselves. Over in the last 10 years a few American companies tried to produce drones and they were total failures as drones and as companies. During that time some MIT students created a company called Skydio which dabbled in this and that, mainly focused on trying to come up with a drone for deliveries. Then they decided to take a shot where all the others had failed and released a consumer drone in 2018. It totally failed. Skydio realized that the consumer market was too hard so they shifted to enterprise first responder and military markets. They struggled there as well and while they have now finally come out with a drone that somewhat usable it's still half as capable as the Chinese equivalent and cost 5 times more. So about to fail again Skydio decided to get political and have the competition banned from the US market. Recently Skydio has been spending tons of money to sway politicians like Stephanik and Texter, to perpetuate the false narrative of a national security threat and to higher people with ties to politicians. Skydio can't produce drones that compete with DJI so they're trying to have DJI banned. Not just from the military market, they also want it banned from consumers, hobbyist and small businesses. Skydio has one drone model that is not suitable for 99% of the American market. They're not trying to build in American drone industry they're trying to destroy it, making themselves the only option. Some corrupt American politicians are happy to take the money. If you want more specific information leave a comment and I can try to come up with a reading list for you. There's a channel called steel city drones that has been covering the latest attempts to get Skydio banned through the NDAA and other legislation. DJI imports are currently being held at customs because because somebody in the government alleges that they used slave labor to produce the drones. Our government doesn't have a problem with Chinese labor for hundreds of billions of dollars of products, but 10 million worth of drones is all a sudden a problem?

[@enysuntra1347]

THANK YOU!!! I needed to hear a sane voice!

[@KamBar2020]

Gotta Have REAL Eyes To Realize Real Lies 👀

[@alannegrete4811]

This guy claiming the Military Industrial Complex doesn't exist because the key defense contracts don't make much profit. LOL That's not a bug, that's a feature my man. The company looks like it's not super profitable so us tax payers don't feel ripped off. But given that they markup the crap out of their own expenses, very little auditing and oversight exists, and the CEOs and other company leaders rake in dozens of millions in salaries and bonuses, so yeah on paper it doesn't look like they made profit but trust me, everyone up the chain is well fed.

[@jdkoz98]

Yeah that’s for damn sure.. talk about CPFF contracts where you are literally rewarded for costing more money

[@oluwaseyijohnson2319]

The revenue of these companies are such a small percent of GDP you could essentially call any industry an industrial complex

[@alannegrete4811]

@@oluwaseyijohnson2319 Percentages are a funny thing. A few hundred billion may be a small percentage value, but still a huge number. And not any industry, but yes, certainly the main ones ripping us off. Healcare comes to mind of course. Two things can be true.

[@MelgazoGerald]

This channel are toll of US military industry complex like Lockheed Martin, Boeing,Northdrop Grumman, Raytheon,General dynamics. Ray Macbeth are idiot.

[@evildude109]

The viewer that had the comment "he knows what he's talking about until he talks about what you know about" is so much more correct than they know. My chemistry degree is the main reason I have no faith in basically any media outlet any more. The amount of confident incorrectness by everyone is astonishing.

[@michaelbarnard8529]

That’s similar to what happened when I watched CSI, and they showed droplets of blood freezing in mid air at 20 degrees F.

[@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk]

This is Ryan’s channel when he talks about international relations. Or really anything outside of specific anti-tank platforms. His channel was decent when he only dealt in his area of expertise.

[@theodorekorehonen]

@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk For example...? Like do you have any specific examples or just vague... whatevers?

[@Oblitus1]

My degree in finance screams out the same.

[@SEAZNDragon]

@@theodorekorehonen Ryan’s Project 2025 video. A lot of commenters noted he was just doing a word search and didn’t read the actual texts. He was noticeably more critical about Project 2025’s military policies.

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

The Stinger missile segment is a good analogy to why the SR-71 Blackbird wasn't brought back from retirement when the GWOT kicked off. You can't just fire up a shut down assembly line from the 1960's to make specialty parts, and even if you could, the costs would be extremely prohibitive.

[@avroarchitect1793]

I've found that the left and the "educated classes" don't understand manufacturing and logistics

[@navytav]

It's the same reason we can't just start building the Saturn 5 to go back to the moon

[@codnak9173]

its a good example of what most people don't understand on these government budgets, sometimes cutting to 'save' ends up costing way more later on. some things will be lost forever.

[@egondro9157]

It’s called obsolescence, we run into it so much because Uncle Sam doesn’t want to buy more or think they can save. Then they blow millions just to find a replacement part because they didn’t buy enough or ignored a recommendation for last time buy. It’s not even the people in the defenses fault many times when their budget is leveraged a million ways,and the funds have been allocated and it takes a helluva lot of work to get funds reallocated or find more funds to plus up the effort. Many times it’s rob peter to pay Paul. Or decide to just ignore Paul all together and decide to only feed Paul because someone somewhere felt that was the most cost effective thing, or pure personnel opinion and self interest. People seem to forget politicians do call the shots on certain discretionary spending based on information or real world situation and geopolitics. It no lie to say congress decided that or the senate defense oversight committee. Big budget programs live or die at the capitol building.

[@TheChainStay]

@@egondro9157 this isn't just a government problem, my dad did procurement for a major O&G company. On projects he often bought an extra container of parts, bolts, spares, etc. The reason, the project was $200 million, spending $40k on spares was a rounding error and when a certified bold is missing and holds up a whole crew for two days while DHL is overnighting the part from halfway around the world at an ungodly cost, having the parts you need is key. The contractors in the millitary love change, change is money, change is profits.

[@colbunkmust]

Johnny Harris complaining about the consolidation of the US defense industry to cut DoD costs and using that as an example of why the military spends too much money is... something. Not sure I would call that a good argument though.

[@cadennorris960]

He started with a conclusion and found anything he perceived as proof to confirm his bias.

[@ghosthunter0950]

Yeah. there are significantly easier arguments to reveal millitary spending waste where contractors kinda scam the government. one example is arbitrary nonsensical limits on repairs that don't improve safety and only serve to profit contractors. the issue is that doesn't fit his narrative and only leads to the military improving it's practices rather than encourage people to be anti-military which is his actual goal.

[@lukeedwards2402]

As someone who is on the far left of the political spectrum. I find your videos invaluable to balance my media diet. You haven’t change my views but you have made them much more nuanced. I appreciate you!

[@emberphoenix2922]

Good for you for choosing to diversify your daily content! Keep at it! You'll be shocked in a few years how much you will learn about both sides of the isle. This is just friendly advice, but I would highly advise you to stay away from either the far left or the far right...the answer is always somewhere in the middle. So if someone is on either *far* side of the spectrum, they are severely misinformed through manipulation tactics and sadly...lies. The quicker you realize there's people out there who profit solely off keeping people on the far right and far left, the quicker you will start being able to instantly see through manipulative people that are trying to take advantage of you.

[@HalfEatenMushroom]

​@@emberphoenix2922how do you define "far left"?

[@hannesgranlund8838]

I find him kinda good for a lot of things, after a while you learn to sift away the information that is maybe not exactly as apolitical as it seems but its a good perspective from experience

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

​@@HalfEatenMushroom Well, it depends on whether you are in Europe or the USA... in the States, they have totally absurd ideas about the political spectrum: to give a simple example, Sanders and AOC are considered "socialists", when they are nothing more than left-wing moderates ... to give you another example, I have heard many define KH as a "communist"...🤣 politicians like Harris, in Europe, are considered centrist, and on some ideas she has (regarding international politics) she could also be considered center-right.

[@andreitiberiovicgazdovici]

​@@HalfEatenMushroomyou can test it yourself: ask 10 Americans to define the term "Marxism"; or you can make it even simpler: ask them to define the even more generic term "communism": you will get 10 answers, and most likely all totally different (and above all wrong😆)

[@kiritosao2661]

I served from 1980 to 1999, U.S. Army Reserves. I was a medic. My unit slowly diminshed to nothing and the GOA had calculated that too many Reservists were going to collect pensions. They ratcheted up the PT standards, seniority points systems, height weight profiling and performance reviews until they had gotten rid of many units and enough people who wouldn't get pensions. "Thank you for your service." often doesn't cut it when I realize I will not be getting a pension, that I wasn't allowed to get back in after 9/11, and many of the benefits I wouldn't have collected until I was 65 are now closed to me. People like Johnny Harris make me sick. Both the military and people like Harris fail to remember what is often attributed to Orwell: "You sleep safely at night because rough men with guns stand ready to do violence upon those who would disturb your slumber." I hope Mr. Harris sleeps well.

[@thelordofnuggets629]

Damn, that sucks. Maybe the people you fight for may not care about you, at all?

[@jjj8317]

​@@thelordofnuggets629 The Russians do care about their people. For 3 weeks before they are sent to the front barelybknwoing how to operate a rifle

[@aljohnson3717]

Reading your story almost brought tears to my eyes.. We ALL owe you and people like Ryan and yourself a giant thank you! I pay my taxes in hope that some part of it would go towards helping you to live decent life after the sacrifices you’ve made. This Johnny guy is a dishonest sleaze ball. Sincerely, Thank you for your service from the bottom of my LEGAL immigrant’s heart!

[@kiritosao2661]

@@thelordofnuggets629 Whether they do or don't doesn't matter. I was there to do my duty. The difference between a civilian and a citizen is that a citizen makes it their personal responsibility to protect their people. It isn't just a Robert Heinlein quote. Its a lifestyle. That said. I did my job. That's what counts.

[@kiritosao2661]

@@aljohnson3717 America enjoys its freedom, and they get to do so on the cheap. The amount of money spent on defense, while commendable compared to other nations who are closer to the threat than we are here, is the small price we pay because our enemy isn't within artillery range. I worry more about the vets coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq who struggle with all of the mental anguish and the lack of response from the military and the VA. We lose more soldiers to suicide than we did to twenty years of war. There needs to be a much more concerted effort in the mental healthcare field for these guys. I have what I need to get by in life, but I don't know how to translate that for others. I had help. Many are less fortunate. Help them. And.... You're welcome. Glad to do my part.

[@steveg8102]

The first f35 was like 250 million, they are down to about 75 million each now

[@ronaldbell7429]

It's kind of the opposite of the situation where a politician tries to save money by cutting purchases, only to discover the unit cost skyrocketed.

[@MrChickennugget360]

the whole point is that the more units you buy the cheaper the price. Getting everyone to buy F-35s has made it an affordable stealth combat aircraft. The biggest problem within the military industrial complex is the desire for proprietary systems. If European navys standardized on a single ASW patrol Frigate, a single Air Defense Destroyer and a single Corvette type and then bought them in bulk the cost of the ships would shrink while the potential for improvements would go up.

[@stevenpowell1991]

@@MrChickennugget360 The problem with getting different countries to standardize on a single design is that each country has different requirements. Thats why international partnerships to develop things like fighters and tanks typically don't work out.

[@AdamKeele]

Maybe for some countries on their orders, but ours are definitely more than $75 million. When I was at Edwards during the X phase of the development, they were supposed to be far less than they ended up being. It was a hard plane to make work with the technology at the time, and a lot of work went into redoing the plane as technology rapidly progressed. Ultimately we could have had better aircraft for specialized purposes if we didn’t have to make it replace multiple airframes, but because of government bureaucracy we had to do it and ended up wasting more money and making an airframe that’s not great at everything it’s replacing. Everyone tries to profit off our needs in the military and it ends up hurting the end user and taxpayers. It really pisses me off how both political sides spend their time slinging mud at each other and both getting parts of it wrong. It’s possible we don’t need to spend as much to get more and we must have a strong military. It’s very important to be critical of government spending. Just like we spend more money on healthcare than anyone else, yet often times it’s a pretty mediocre experience. It’s nothing to be proud of spending more than anyone else on things, and not getting our money’s worth out of it. There are A LOT of people making more than they should off taxpayers.

[@LividImp]

The problem with a lot of KZbin "journalists" is that they got their credibility from basically being a travel blogger and people somehow morphed that into "this guy knows what he is talking about."

[@swimhornet]

Ironically this video is incredibly dishonest. Proctor & Gamble is just a diapers company? What a dishonest way of saying they’re a gigantic multinational consumer goods manufacturer. Also, you imply that since tech companies spend more money lobbying other industries don’t get a seat at the table. What an insane thing so say, it’s not like representatives can only help one or the other, or why would defense companies lobby at all? There was a lot more bs in this video, too. As someone who appreciates a good bit of your content, I think this video is lazy.

[@LemonSoulz]

yup he just wanted to dunk on harris but then proceeded to make all the same mistakes he was critizing him for

[@swimhornet]

@@LemonSoulz Exactly.

[@TheDutchGun]

One additional reason comparing military spending in US dollars doesn't always make sense is that many countries can buy a lot more for a dollar than we can in the US, known as the price parity index. Something I learned from Perun's videos.

[@ChristoffRevan]

Yeah, it gets really tiring to see people from the West... particularly the US...act like "oh my gosh, it's so cheap to live in such and such country?!?!!???" and not seem to realize that it's cheap for US, but not for THEM because the economy of countries outside of the West (and a handful of the 1st world countries that exist outside of the West) are often vastly lesser with lesser purchasing power and drastically reduced wages of the average populace. So yeah, that $3 lunch you had in Russia doesn't mean that Russia is some amazing utopia where greedy capitalists haven't taken over...when you consider the average Russian only makes on average about $350 a month, that $3 starts looking a LOT more expensive than you would have thought

[@Grimpen0]

Also why Poland's (and the Baltic countries) armament expenditures are doubly effective.

[@MakerInMotion]

They don't adjust for that? They should. Like how everyone adjusts for inflation if they're talking about housing in the 40s or the stock market crash of 1929. There's a lot of context missing if you say your grandparents bought their home after the war for $11,000.

[@ghandiwon]

​@MakerInMotion you *can* adjust for that, or at least do get decently close. The problem is, if you're trying to argue the US is substantially more wasteful in military spending, why would you want to? It can only ever lower any numbers your using for comparison.

[@TheArklyte]

"US spends too much on military" >US 3,5% GDP >Poland 5% GDP And if anything, Poland is the only sane NATO member right now. So you better double those F-35 acquisitions, dear americans, those are some rookie numbers right now 😅

[@uku4171]

Poland is in the middle of a massive military modernization, so it won't last.

[@deus_vult8111]

US still spends more than CHINA while we have mediocre education & unaffordable healthcare.

[@Oblitus1]

Ukraine can count only Poland and the Baltic countries as its only truly authentic allies.

[@ThaddäusTentakel-v2n]

Poland never ever did spend 5% of GDP. Not even close. And let's not forget that Poland didn't even spend 2% before 2022/23, despite their geographical location. So, there obviously is some catching up to do for them.

[@shavar67]

Prior to 2022, Poland’s military spending was consistently around 2% of GDP, aligning with NATO guidelines. This reflected its strategic focus on regional security, particularly in response to Russia’s actions in Ukraine since 2014.

[@LogicalNiko]

The F-35 is a target because all cutting edge military technology looks like a haphazard mess if you look at it over it’s development period. Most of the time these developments start with requirements that are vague or impossible. Then as time goes on and what can be executed is narrowed down the roles and capabilities are refined. Then as other nations react and technology changes the requirements also change. Each of these stages rehash the project over and over again. When you’re building something that no one has ever done before, with capabilities that no one ever imagined, and completion that no one could quantify it’s bound to seem like an utter waste. Now wait 30-60 years and all of a sudden we’ll forget all that and say how well it’s served its role and how it’s a shame we need to replace it. Look back at the F-15, B-52, A-10 and people called those projects a disaster at the time. Now we call them some of the finest aircraft produced. In fact he F-15 (correction F-14) was labeled as bloated and a waste until all of a sudden this movie called “Top Gun” came out and then everyone said it was amazing and iconic.

[@phishphood423]

It’s hilarious how people keep trying to dunk on the F-35, the latest Sandbox News video points this out, and makes the point how the F-35 literally has a better accident rate than the F-16 does, and its availability rate isn’t much worse, and is mostly related to software upgrades. It’s bonkers that people still keep complaining about it as some shining example of corruption or US incompetence or something.

[@jdotoz]

DDG-51 was also a mess. Now it's the mainstay of the surface force.

[@LogicalNiko]

@@phishphood423now yep there is corruption. It exists in government and non-government. There is waste, fraud, abuse, etc. there is also a lot of politics in government (go figure). There is a lot of politics in large businesses too. I’ve been an insider, a contractor, a consultant, in the fully public sector, private sector, startup and global multinational. The game changes but a lot of it is the same. There are time when the rules are followed, times when they are not. Sometimes that works out well, sometimes not. But almost every example I’ve seen it’s always a lot of people working with what they got and trying. Which is more than what happens in a lot of other places where corruption is just the way 75% of the time.

[@phishphood423]

It’s hilarious how people keep trying to dunk on the F-35, the latest Sandbox News video points this out, and makes the point how the F-35 literally has a better accident rate than the F-16 does, and its availability rate isn’t much worse, and is mostly related to software upgrades. It’s bonkers that people still keep complaining about it as some shining example of corruption or US incompetence or something.

[@michaelbarnard8529]

Top gun was the F-14, but yes.

[@ExorFS]

It is actually kind of stupid to say the military industrial complex doesn't exist when governement is spending billons to buy Raytheon missle and boeing planes.

[@Shamwell15]

“That’s the GDP of the Congo! See how that doesn’t make any sense.” Had me rolling. Perfect example.

[@snowballeffect7812]

example of what? is harris lying when he says we spend the GDP of entire nations on aspects of the military? we spend more in dollar amount than the next 5 biggest nation's budgets combined. lol

[@xayb9179]

@@snowballeffect7812 And you believe China's public numbers? Now that's the lolz.

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@xayb9179 We can very easily calculate their GDP lol. Even if the numbers were off by double, they wouldn't come anywhere near the US lol.

[@xayb9179]

@@snowballeffect7812 I'm talking about their military budget and you can't easily calculate their GDP either. The GDP is calculated using number that the nation themself reports. China being an authoritarian country with little in the way of transparency or internal checks/balances has and does fudge their numbers considerably.

[@altman575]

I believe this is more of a vibe situation. We are always told we can't afford better health care and schools, but there is always money to increase the military budget. There is always billions to send to other counties, but we can't afford to increase SNAP benefits. This leads to the big number bad feeling. I always appreciate your reporting Ryan. There defiantly needs to be more military reporters on the online news networks.

[@florisvanzalingen9641]

But as he has shown in the video, we spend way less % of our gdp then most of the last 50 years. Spending on militairy is going down not up

[@bob38028]

The worst part is that he's on Nebula which just puts a stain on the whole platform.

[@sethivaltas619]

Don’t forget Second Thought was on there too before he said… what he said lol

[@bob38028]

@@sethivaltas619 I've never heard of second thought. I'm much newer to Nebula so please do tell.

[@sethivaltas619]

@@bob38028 "settler babies" in Israel. That's all ya gotta know

[@bob38028]

@@sethivaltas619 Jesus. And to think he said that right after Oct. 7th. What an impudent stain on the pro-Palestinian movement.

[@sethivaltas619]

@@bob38028 true that

[@stap1er]

Talking about false equivalency: "companies who make diapers made more money than defense companies", "Facebook and similar companies (which didn't exist as an industry before 2010) made more stock profit than defense companies". Neither of these things connect, nor do they mean that people can't make huge amounts of money from contracts or investments!

[@mati.86386]

This video didn’t disprove anything from Johnnys video, it just gave context and completely ignored the points he was making

[@x316RiotMakerx]

You could probably make a career of debunking Johnny Harris.

[@jaxwagen4238]

A channel called The Present Past has an excellent video explaining how bad Johnny is at research and story telling

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

Even the worst people on KZbin like BadEmpanada have clowned on Johnny

[@LemonSoulz]

yeah but not this guy dose all the same shit with misleading bs. This man is in the pocket of defence contractors oh wait he is one No conflict of interest at all just like he glossed over that.

[@RAYROTHSTEIN66]

I work for pratt and whitney, we don't make any money on selling engines, we make money on parts and service.. that is 100% across the board, from commercial to military engines.

[@SpookyEng1]

70% on average of any military major acquisition is lifecycle sustainment costs, not the actual purchase. Think about the parts and maintenance it takes on a new car over its lifetime.

[@EverettBurger]

Just like car dealerships

[@RAYROTHSTEIN66]

@EverettBurger when car dealerships tack on a "adjustment fee" for market price, thats theft. We literally agree on a dollar per a unit and if it costs more we eat it, if it costs less, we have to disclose that and lose that profit.. its part of the procurement transparency and regulations.

[@nedblevins2525]

This is the sticky market when you are the only vendor with a qualified replacement part. The part is priced on how expensive it is to get the plane back in the air not what it costs to make it.

[@fromulus]

He'll probably show up here and thank you for the critique and point out how he tries to keep his videos running time in check and has to sacrifice things like context to do that. He does that a lot.

[@theodorekorehonen]

*a member of his staff

[@door1479]

​​@@theodorekorehonenlies take less time

[@ryanjonathanmartin3933]

🤣

[@LemonSoulz]

@@door1479 is that why seth lies multiple time through this video and misleads people just as harris did.

[@Skullzero1]

Your comparison to defense contractors to P&G I think is a prime example of a false equivalency. And playing them down as just a diaper manufacturer is misleading. They make a huge assortment of consumable home goods like toothpaste deodorant, soaps paper towels etc. Things that every single person buys weekly or monthly. And they don't just sell in America. Your comparing that high tech gear sold only to the US government and approved allies. It is a massive false equivalency to try to compare these two industries

[@thetankteacher]

Ryan dropping the line "And of course I can find his personal email and number because... y'know *shows a video of a MQ drone launching a hellfire missile* I'm Ryan" Is such a badass line that only someone like Ryan can use

[@JS-ti8ny]

yawn

[@kodakfilm69]

Did we watch the same video? Lol

[@froster42]

🤮

[@LemonSoulz]

ah yeah, "i can illegally and misuse the tools and information i have to stalk somone i have internet beef with" Totally bad ass and not creepy at all.

[@Whipcream133]

Johnny Harris has always been a fishy guy. Heard a lot about him getting information wrong on his videos so that’s why I don’t watch him. Glad you made a video on this guy.

[@DownWithCensorship]

He definitely leaves a lot of major details out of events. It always seemed like bias recounting rather than being straight forward

[@KamBar2020]

You Gotta Have REAL Eyes To Realize Real Lies 💯👀

[@rchen3418]

Same here … always feel that there is something fishy about him …

[@theodorekorehonen]

@KamBar2020 I'm assuming you're a bot since you're spamming this nonsensical comment?

[@shawnstangeland3011]

Please explain to everyone how Ukraine funding goes to our factories to produce weapons and ammunition. How this government spending helps our nation

[@nikolaideianov5092]

Ukraine gets weapons Bit then the us makes more of the same or most likely better weapons to keep their stocks from going down And becose of scale they become cheaper

[@Hevlikn]

yeah, see the Stinger Missile example; not doing so would cost more. US dumps it's old(er) stock into Ukraine and the 'funding' price-tag could either be the cost of that stock, or the cost of it's replacements (although people rarely clarify). US wins by not having to scrap out-dated or expired equipment; Ukraine wins by being able to use them; the (non-existent) Industrial Military Complex wins by retain jobs and institutional knowledge

[@nikolaideianov5092]

@@Hevlikn everyone wins Exept russia but we arent exacly asking them

[@Hevlikn]

@@nikolaideianov5092 well.... The ones losing their lives on the battlefield at the whims of the insulated and uncaring elites

[@nikolaideianov5092]

@@Hevlikn yeah But litteraly noone is asking them Including their own goverment

[@tanner791]

“There’s no military-industrial complex because they don’t give me money and made less than a ‘diaper company’” has to be one of the dumbest arguments of all time tbh. calling P&G-a company that’s shaped global consumer behavior for nearly two centuries-a “diaper company” is as misleading as the shit you’re trying to call out, but dismissing hegemony, one of the most important concepts in contemporary political science and international relations takes the self-own to a new level. P&G may dominate consumer goods, but the defense industry dominates government budgets, geopolitics, and entire economies. the fact that you can’t see that, while being a literal cog in the machine is beyond embarrassing. go back to your spreadsheet and ignore the trillions spent on defense while public schools beg for pencils, while the rest of us deal with reality.

[@bodigames]

Defense does NOT dominate government spending. Have you ever heard of Medicare Medicaid? ?????

[@tanner791]

@@bodigames they’re not even in the same category, so your point doesn’t make sense. Medicare and Medicaid are mandatory programs, meaning their funding is automatic. Defense spending is discretionary, meaning Congress decides how much to throw at it every year-and spoiler: it’s the biggest chunk by far, consistently. read up on ‘discretionary spending’ before you embarrass yourself further. Do you think Lockheed Martin is building hospitals? Two things can exist at once, my guy-healthcare spending doesn’t erase the Pentagon’s black hole budget. Defense spending is the cornerstone of the federal budget’s discretionary side, and it’s not even subtle. Congrats on proving nothing.

[@wardog5073]

He is not a journalist he is an activist.

[@notpurrfect6397]

🎯

[@spht9ng]

As if journalists exist anymore...

[@tommcfadden5232]

The fact that the five major defense contractors make less than proctor and gamble does not mean there isn’t a military industrial complex. The two things are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

[@tndiscgolf]

Agreed.

[@kaszaspeter77]

Talk about the MIC makes it look like something overwhelming, overpowering, that effectively runs the US from the shadows. Showing that it's smaller than P&G puts that into perspective and makes it clear, that it doesn't.

[@tommcfadden5232]

@@kaszaspeter77 It’s comparing apples to oranges. P&G doesn’t rely on government contracts (taxpayer dollars) to remain in business. The MIC does. You’re point, however, is a valid one. The term, “Military Industrial Complex”, is used pejoratively. This may very well bias one’s arguments and analysis from the start.

[@snowballeffect7812]

@@kaszaspeter77 P&G's market cap is 400 billion dollars. lockhead's is like 125 billion. P&G is a gigantic multinational corporation. 74% of lockheed's net sales are accounted for by the US government lol. 60%+ is from DOJ alone. The MIC is real and alive. There's no reason that stinger missile is marked up that high but for the fact that the military needs it that badly and was willing to pay that amount. any capitalist would do the same thing in their position lol.

[@belendomar964]

​@tommcfadden5232 I mean, the main customer of defense contractors is the government, so saying they depend on contracts to make money is like saying Kellog's depends on food sales, like yeah its because its their a food company and sell food. Military contractors' main customer is the government, so they're gonna sell to the government. And regardless of private or public, the money spent is going somewhere.

[@aepilotjim]

I had to laugh during the F-35 section. If you compare the F-35 to almost any aircraft the military has fielded since before WW2 you'd find that it has one of the best records out there. Hell, more than a few of the airframes developed during WW2 had a 50% or worse safety record and an operational record that wasn't much better. And just so we're clear, when I say safety record, I'm talking about crashes and deaths not in combat.

[@shawnmiller4781]

Hell just look at the USAF loss rate in the 1950’s

[@davidotts7217]

@@aepilotjim has anyone ever figured out why some P-51’s would break up in midair without being in combat?

[@SEAZNDragon]

@@aepilotjim mind you the plane just start rolling out and building off decades of safety data. I like to see the stats after a decade.

[@LemonSoulz]

yeah but more then half of ALL f-35 ever made are down for repairs at any given time. Several countries have raised concerns about them and the design flaws and refuse to buy them until concerns are met.

[@shawnmiller4781]

@ You have a source for that number? It sounds pretty made up

[@avitude-yeee]

Ryan McBeth is an American treasure! Thank you for for all your work!

[@Rome4787]

Thanks Ryan, Johnny Harris’ videos are entertaining and engaging. Like many pundits I also enjoy them until they talk about something I have expertise in. Thanks for the straight talk.

[@deanfox-xw7xp]

You bill yourself a military "annalist" and youve never caught a dose of Hegemon?

[@snowballeffect7812]

lmao i also found that hilarious and i'm just a normal civilian software engineer lol.

[@jdkoz98]

Annalist? What

[@Azune783]

He was really upset about that word lol

[@johnwest7993]

I worked putting together and running what were probably the first autonomous vehicles, US army tanks, as target vehicles for weapons testing for the US military back in 1979. I drove tanks with no brakes. I climbed into a burning tank to shut off the engines. I chased on foot a runaway tank with a berserk computer, in total darkness in a snowstorm at Ft. Riley, KS. I had a secret clearance and I was paid $7.50 an hour, an average tech wage in the town I worked at the time. I've worked at other Mil contracting jobs. They paid me the going tech rate. What costs so much for military stuff wasn't my pay. It is ensuring that military gear works under all conditions, hot, cold, wet dry, day, night, in dust, in snow, after it's been dropped, after it's been run over, under every scenario. I saw certification paperwork verifying a 24 hour burn-in of each individual 5 cent resistors for a flight circuit bd for a spy satellite. The testing costs far more than the resistors. But it's necessary. You don't replace a resistor in a spy satellite in orbit. The costs of military supplies is what it is because it needs to be. Having said that, I'm very much in favor of close supervision of every military contract. It's a whole lot of money, and wherever there is a whole lot of money there are always a whole lot of people looking to get some for themselves. BTW, Project 2025 is not something that reasonable Americans want, but it IS what they have voted for, so they will get it. They voted for donald trump, and what happens from now on isn't what they will want, but what they voted for. Yes, people can vote to be self-destructive, and so they did. It's a Darwin Award kinda thing.

[@stevenpowell1991]

My understanding is that Project 2025 did not come from Trump, it came from a think tank with no affiliation with Trump. He may well do some of it, but it is not his baby.

[@jamesfischer8667]

I will say you also make a false equivalence with proctor and gamble compared to military companies. Also using what aboutism when military lobbying is brought up is a bad argument. You can be mad at both. Politicians can accept money from both Lockheed and meta.

[@breathedeeply7467]

Ryan I truly believe in your personal and journalistic integrity. But why do you trust the defense contractors and government published numbers but have no problem accepting every other government publishes false and doctored information? If you do accept that there is a certain small amount of corruption or false and doctored information coming out of the American Government, where would that most likely take place?

[@snowballeffect7812]

because he has a conflict of interest lol. they sign his paychecks.

[@christophermcanally1246]

Proctor & Gamble does a LOT more than diapers. That’s not a great comparison.

[@pxrays547]

Agreed, he is doing the same thing with that point as he is exposing Harris for doing.

[@sulblazer]

True, but the point still stands. If you’re an investor, military investment is not a good way optimize your returns. That said, I don’t think Ryan’s point was a clear rebuttal of Harris’s insinuation of greed on the part of defense personnel. I mean, they could just be incompetent or lazy at investing.

[@JUwiki]

Yeah that felt like such a weird point to emphasize, like yeah it is a decent comparison but P&G has its hands in so many consumer products more than diapers

[@phr3ui559]

@@sulblazerare there any errors in his MIC video

[@user-rt7lr4sg4b]

Took a lot of his points away with that comparison

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3:00 You cant deny that there is not a childcare industrial complex. The human race

[@harwantsethi2350]

So not to nit pick but, I work in Finance: Comparing any defense contractor’s bottom line to a multinational consumer conglomerate is apples to oranges. (Disclaimer that if you made this comparison to further illustrate the stupidity of Johnny boi’s Moroccan GDP example, hats off to you that’s meta and it rocks). When evaluating a company you have to find like-for-like comparables. The level of R&D, heavy/fixed equipment costs, talent acquisition and workforce costs etc differ drastically between P&G and, say, Lockheed. A better example would be to, say, use GM or Ford as an example. They both produce “heavy equipment” of varying degrees of complexity, like a defense contractor. Sure a Corvette is less difficult to build than a F-22 is, but the basics rhyme. Anyways loved the video other than that, really informative and well explained.

[@ChronicAndIronic]

Johnny Harris continuously lies in almost all of his videos**

[@Alfred-Neuman]

I don't think it's entirely his fault if he's like that, he grew up in a mormon family so lies always been around him since he was a baby. In this community they basically don't have too much choice but to lie regularly or they'll quickly get in trouble. (BTW I know it because he made a video about this. I mean about being a Mormon, not about being a liar... lol)

[@ChronicAndIronic]

@@Alfred-Neuman Well without Lies Mormonism dies. Their whole cult is based around lies so you’re 100% right

[@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk]

@@Alfred-NeumanI mean, you could make the same argument about Ryan and Catholicism. Truth is, both choose to lie.

[@texasranger24]

Johnny Harris - Agenda Contributor The World Economic Forum Any more questions? No? Good.

[@ChronicAndIronic]

@@texasranger24 Exactly, he’s literally a talking head for the globalist agenda and just regurgitates their accepted opinions and views. And all videos come back to way they want

[@JefferyPerrin]

I finally did it, I got the Christmas sweater. Thank-you for the none nonsense programing Ryan McBeth. From Ottawa Canada, cheers mate.

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Thank you!

[@Ray-tx2ls]

Saying Proctor and Gamble just sells diapers is highly disingenuous.

[@Charlie43348]

So is this whole video. This guy is a propaganda robot. JH says defense lobbying is bad (objectively is - not sure how everyone puts up with bribery), this guy defends military lobbying by saying "oh well the oil lobby does it too"

[@samuelallen7602]

I like how he said they make less than proctor and gamble, who sell diapers. Yes, they sell diapers. They also own all the products in your bathroom and laundry room. They are also worth half a trillion dollars. This is a horrible comparison. He might as well say they make less than apple.

[@painfulsweater]

Saying everything this guy says is wrong because it "needs context" and then constantly saying proctor and gamble "make diapers" seems to be very disingenuous. I like your passion but you do seem to have a vested interest in our current structure staying the way it is.

[@rarelycares8416]

I worked in the aerospace and defense industry for over 35 years. These people are always blaming the defense companies for their high prices, $10,000 hammer, $100k toilet etc etc. But try getting a specification for building some widget from the government and you will see really quickly why it costs so much. We built components for satellites and often the paperwork required to be sent with the component weighed much more than the component itself. There are so many requirements for material certifications, quality assurance, supply chain restrictions and so on that you usually had to have a dedicated staff to just verify we were compliant with the specification.

[@maverick9708]

So in other words, The paper trail, red tape, and other CHOICES the government made caused us to send orders of magnitude more money to build defense implements than they actually cost

[@onothankyou]

Agreed. The first company I worked for would not do government work for this reason, and because the requirements put on the entire company for extra auditing, etc. This was a fully American owned private company, it just wasn't worth the effort. We were one of only two globally significant suppliers of our equipment, and engineering companies knew they would have to trick us to get a proposal for the equipment so they could fulfill their requirements to go out to multiple qualified bidders on the RFQ. They knew we wouldn't accept the order and they weren't going to write one to us, they'd find some reason to make sure we weren't going to win, even if we were low bid. I'd give the purchasers some grief and there were ways it could be made up later. All the little details of commercial enterprise in America, not good or bad, just part of it.

[@miroslawkaras7710]

I am working in industry that make just small component for aerospace and military. Let me say, forget the burocracy. They are cases where you testing $2 components for month that cost tent of thousand of dollars to be sure that component will not fail iin critical application. If you sending space mission to mars that will cost hundreds of million of dollars you can not just send mechanic because some $2 components brake down. That just not possible. You just need to make that component extremely reliable and you do that by developing new processes and method the you used in many other products. One of the biggest open secret of US defense industry is that the money that it spend to that main contractors really go to thousands of subcontractors for R&D for development new components and processes as well manufacturing methods, and they are used in vast majority of product that we buying every day - look on you cell phone components. For hum the original research was done?

[@JPage-fj7mb]

Really? Please defend the Boeing soap dispensers. Please explain the 2024 Pentagon audit that determined prices were inflated. This is not hyperbole, but fact. And there are a ton of examples.

[@cronchcrunch]

​@@JPage-fj7mb These people will just ignore record profits and bonuses given out to executives by defence contractors. Yes it is more expensive to meet government specifications, but that is a minimal part of the costs here.

[@obksh]

We don’t spend a lot of money because we give them forms to fill out is a crazy argument

[@christiangrosjean2980]

You’re misrepresenting the argument hes saying that the money isnt just a slush fund that is just spent completely recklessly as many pundits and Johnny Harris make it seem

[@BrianGivensYtube]

Ryan, I’m a process engineer in aerospace and what you say checks out in regards to manufacturing is 100% correct and Johnny conveniently glosses over everything of value.

[@Ruairi.rollins]

Now just wait a sec. Not saying you’re lying out your arse, but saying that Proctor & Gamble is a company that makes diapers is as bad of a lie of omission as Johnny Harris. They have like 30+ brands that make a lot more than diapers.

[@MorRobots]

"The problem with Johnny Harris is that he sounds like he knows what he's talking about until he talks about something you know about"

[@ninjam77]

A huge reason for why comparison to most other countries are not fair and why we should look at spending as a percentage of GDP is just wages. Like for the Morocco example a US soldier seems to make about 10-20 times as much money as a Moroccan soldier, so it's no surprise that the US will spent way way more money. The US government has to compete on the American labor market where soldiers could get high wages working a 9-5 job, so they have to pay a lot of money. Add to that the the US is a much bigger country engaged in global conflicts and not just in conquering a piece of dessert and US military spending suddenly dose not seem so unreasonable at all.

[@grandgibbon2071]

And war is a zero sum game either you win, or you loose, and when you are in it, money becomes no concern. We spend so much money to keep the edge by a long mile. Our enemies fight us from the shadows, and in misinformation. When it comes to war, the US is for now at least second to none.

[@dennisengland9787]

All the points you make are good, I guess. But, back when I was active duty on a sub, we had a switch/relay that needed to be replaced on the Reactor Plant Control Panel. A vital switch, but this was pure analog 1950s technology with parts that could have been gotten from Radio Shack. The cost of one switch? Twice what I made as an E5 in a year at the time. Then there was the little plastic piece that you pressed your cup against to get water on the ice machine on crews mess. $276 for a piece of plastic smaller than a GI Joe guys leg. Don't tell me there isn't grift happening in military spending.

[@RenatoRegalado]

I mean, if you're going to say Johnny lied then it's only fair game to say that you lied by simply calling P&G, a giant multinational conglomerate of very profitable companies a "diaper company". And While I appreciate your insight and expertise as someone who has never been to the military. Many of the things you refute in his claims are merely appeal to authority fallacy. Basically just "Source: Trust me bro" for 30 minutes. Secondly, you don't really disprove the revolving door by saying John Mattis had to take a one year vacation before he left for the board of General Dynamics. In the grand scheme of things, 1 year is nothing. If anything that rule should be extended to 4 years. Lastly, You can see if page 5 of the project 2025 pdf: "The noxious tenets of “critical race theory” and “gender ideology” should be excised from curricula in every public school in the country. These theories poison our children, who are being taught on the one hand to affirm that the color of their skin fundamentally determines their identity and even their moral status while on the other they are taught to deny the very creatureliness that inheres in being human and consists in accepting the givenness of our nature as men or women". Also in page 103: "Eliminate Marxist indoctrination and divisive critical race theory programs and abolish newly established diversity, equity, and inclusion offices and staff." also referenced in page 342, 348, 496 and if you're going to respond to that with "oh well CRT isn't books about slavery" then you're either being willfully ignorant about what Republicans are implying when they say CRT and DEI or you are outright being untruthful. So Feel free to DM me so you can ask for my details for those thousand dollars please.

[@Teddy-f5x]

Exactly

[@adamelliott2302]

Thanks!

[@MakeaBlaze]

I find it difficult to put a lot of credit in any of the arguments your share when the video starts off with an advertisement to get more spending for the defense business that you work for. I appreciate the honesty! You make it clear that you are biased, but then there is no admission of this bias in the rest of the arguments, or a perspective of how this bias affects your view point. I feel like Jonny Harris is in his echo chamber and your are in yours. There is no real discourse actually going on between the two of you IMO. Thanks for the thoughts though.

[@warboy-vr3rm]

Difference is, Ryan is working with/for a company that does medical which is better.

[@MakeaBlaze]

@@warboy-vr3rm I'm not trying to make Ryan out as good or bad, I was just trying to underscore that making an argument without understanding and acknowledging your own bias makes for poor discussion and echo chambers. I think we all make more progress in discourse when we try to see our own blind spots. However, I do understand that more Controversy = More Clicks ect. So maybe my comment is irrelevant doesn't push what matters to content creators. Still how I feel though.

[@JacobWohlClips]

Excellent response to his very deceptive video.

[@EpicGamerBruhHD]

People’s main gripe with the “Military industrial complex” isn’t about company profits, it’s about the government getting scammed, just like how pharmaceutical companies should be able to make a profit, but just without scamming people and insurance companies.

[@smoke7877]

You made the argument of false equivalency, then make a false equivalency the entire video, i.e. proctor and gamble (who only sells diapers apparently).

[@SkyNhett]

Ryan, I don't know why the DoD doesn't just hire you instead of them saying, "We're un-auditable; we don't know where the money goes."

[@imakelonelinessworkforme9120]

Ngl to start with I trusted Johnny a fair bit. He sounded like he knew what he’s on abt & as much as I hate to admit it, he also fits the stereotype of people who actually know all abt this stuff. His voice is just so confident like he’s spent his life studying all this. It was only when I watched a vid that I already knew quite a lot abt from other trusted online sources + studying for my degree. After that it was like I could see thru everything. Any vids I watched after that I felt like I was just constantly saying “lie”, “bs”, “what an exaggeration” etc even if I wasn’t extremely familiar with that topic. I ended up subscribing & now it does my head in whenever his vids pop up on my recommended. Thank you for calling him out!

[@hrolfthestrange]

IMO Johnny Harris's videos are all this poorly researched and oriented around proving a specific political point for which he cherry picks info, talks to one or two biased parties, and then fills air with speculative commentary. He often preferences facts/statements that superficially 'blow your mind' but are generally not very insightful or informed. Like I just watched the first half of one of his videos where he REPEATEDLY emphasized that countries and their governments... ARE MADE UP by humans. It turns out things like President and lines on maps don't occur naturally without humans making them. MIND BLOWN.

[@OryxAU]

The worst part is that in the past when he has been called out like this, he has responded positively, pledging to do better. Yet every new video is the same level of very basic surface level knowledge and common misconception.

[@theodorekorehonen]

Basic corpo BS. Whenever you get called out for being shitty, just make vague appeasing noises and don't change anything

[@leesadler558]

I would argue it's deliberate misinformation

[@joewalker36]

Usually a fan of your videos but this one seemed needlessly mean spirited and frankly some of your rebuttals were inaccurate or missing his point entirely

[@samukelomchunu]

after I watched both videos . I don't think Johnny Harris lied from something that does not exist, but some other information was a bit exaggerated and it lacked context. which is can be judged based with the level of knowledge one have. cause if he can go deep into the military technicalities for someone who has never watch any military documentary can just lose interest or can't understand the information he talks about. you also have a right to correct him since there is something you know about military. Believing in your government ,with everything must be taken with pitch of salt. the government has lied a lot to the citizens. I will like you make a video about ,why the us military left the military equipment other s destroyed in the Middle-east. thank you

[@goranjosic]

Johnny Harris is a character who only sounds like he knows what he's talking about, and he usually talks plain nonsense. He is trying to be Veritasium without investigative journalism, that is, his sources are "reddit, I told you so bro, trust me" and the big media like buzufeed articles 😅

[@uku4171]

Yup

[@justin4911]

On the military industrial complex: the issue isn’t how big a company or its revenue is. The issue is how much it spends on lobbying and how well positioned it is to wield influence. These are all different issues.

[@cadennorris960]

In the video he proves with the numbers that tech companies have far more influence.

[@justin4911]

I get it, but it doesn’t mean the defense companies do not wield a lot of influence.

[@ajc5479]

@@cadennorris960 The video just shows the disclosed spending on lobbying. Would you be surprised if the real number is much larger?

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Military equipment is expensive. It always has been. In the mid 1930s UK tried to re-arm on the cheap. WW1 artillery was dusted off and tarted up. Then they got their a*ses kicked in France & Belgium. The men were extracted at Dunkirk but the equipment got left behind. UK had to rapidly build new gun systems and tanks. USA provided most of the vehicles at very reasonable prices. UK made the final debt payment in the 1990s.

[@samuraijaydee]

Love your channel. Thanks for your service!

[@rjk0128]

I think you've both decided to take a one-sided stance here, and push a one-sided story in order to wow your audiences. Your arguments seem fair, but you sort of acted like each was a complete lie when at best you took a bit of steam out of what are still fair points that Johnny Harris made. I was already subbed to both of you, and I feel a bit disappointed by either. It's the kind of channels that I decidedly not sub to that feature diss-tracks instead of educated discourse, and I hope it doesn't go further downhill from here tbh...

[@nicholastodhunter9104]

Insider trading is a huge issue which exists outside of defense contractors. However, saying that it isn't an issue for defense contractors, because defense contracts are not profitable is incorrect because the officials can profit off of micro-trends which they have control of and than sell.

[@grumpystranger6377]

Not taking sides in the F-35 controversy, but... The answer to "Did the military-industrial complex trick Poland into buying a fighter that didn't work?" isn't as obvious as you might think. A number of polish procurement decisions had been ostensibly based on hype and/or political calculations, so just because we bought it doesn't mean there's no problems with the thing. It's also worth remembering the F-104 scandal.

[@bankaihampter2802]

Polska gurom

[@WizardWizard-l7w]

Yeah this guy doesn’t seem to look past a base layer of anything

[@sebastianhaban1366]

the german military (bundeswehr) also recently ordered the f35 and is one of the countries on the map shown in the video... but again adding to your point: that doesn't say anything. because the bundeswehr also not so long ago bought navy helicopters that heavily corroded when flying above salt water, radio communication devices that physically were to big to fit into the vehicles they specifically were bought for, assault rifles that became inaccurate when fired on a warm summer day, transport helicopters that can't carry a lot of weight (so soldiers getting transported by it can only carry light armament) and transport planes without any rocket defense so they can't get used in any conflict zones.

[@comrademakno]

In johnnys defense, I don't think he purposely lies or is a propagandist as some commenters say, I think he just makes mistakes especially due to oversimplification of some of his subjects due to trying to keep his videos not to long. Ive been a johnny fan for a while and he tries to fix his mistakes like his new video abt ukraine. Just my opinion.

[@Teddy-f5x]

Yeah i don't understand why everyone hates him just politely correct him or something and we still spend way too much on defense

[@danielallen2006]

The military industrial complex does in fact exist. Showing its inefficiency does not disprove its existence.

[@GSXK4]

I would have guessed lobbying costs would be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. A couple million is almost breathtakingly tiny.

[@snowballeffect7812]

why would they need to spend that much if they are the same people and are likely providing insider trading info? lol. if johnny doesn't know how military contracting works, this guy REALLY doesn't know how it works nor how lobbying works lol.

[@Pathologyshortbus]

I will never understand why people feel the need to lie about the US. There is enough factual stuff to criticize without having to lie about it. It must be exhausting.

[@radicallyrethinkingrailwaysina]

Agree. I'm sure there is plenty wrong with military procurement and overall defense policy but a fair look would compare it with other government activities and other countries. Even asking what the quantum is would need comparison with others. Harris says USA outspend all other countries ignoring that list includes China Russia Iran north Korea who have all made public statements threatening the USA and the USA might have to fight all four at once...hence the need to outspend them

[@Fyr35555]

Because coming to a more nuanced perspective takes a whole lot of effort. At least when compared to rattling off intellectually dishonest talking points which you know 99% of your audience won't bother to fact check because they already want to believe in a certain conclusion.

[@Oblitus1]

@@Fyr35555 ". . .because they already want to believe in a certain conclusion." Ouch. That truth bomb hurts. Well said.

[@PatrickKingJr]

Best country in the world.

[@mk1st]

@@Oblitus1a truth bomb that probably cost 17 gazillion