Johnny vs. Sonic and the Secret Rings

[@AK46supr]

Johnny is like the only reviewer i can go back and watch the same reviews and enjoy it again

[@violetshimmer5038]

same

[@aryljohn]

Same

[@DragonKirby]

AK46supr same

[@7ChaosDGF]

Agreed

[@powertheimmortal]

jontron?

[@TheSuperSmashBros01]

“WHAT AN ASSHOLE!” RIP Gilbert Gotfried. You are missed greatly

[@JoakimOtamaa]

That schreeching ruined any project he was in.

[@TheBlueTyphoon17]

FUN FACT: You can use the GameCube controller....but only in Party Mode.

[@Omar_E11]

I always thought that was extremely stupid. -_-

[@TheBlueTyphoon17]

Omar Elmosrati Makes me hate the game even more.

[@Omar_E11]

TheBlue Typhoon17 Yeah. I guess if they had the Gamecube controller or the Classic Controller compatible, the game would be somewhat playable. But alas...

[@Omar_E11]

***** Sorry, but I just can't help bringing myself to like this game. The controls suck, the graphics have aged, the level design can get stupid, it's just bad to be honest.

[@Omar_E11]

***** Regular Wii, with a Wiimote plus. And yes, the jacket is on.

[@LuigiScout]

The first time I played this game. I tried to play it whilst holding the Wii Remote Vertically. Boy was I a dipshit.

[@KnightOfTheWind2401]

Same here buddy

[@LuigiScout]

MLG SC00TY B00TY Love you too babe.

[@turquoise7817]

Luigi Scout Well, I'm not alone at least.

[@tgsachris]

Luigi Scout Weren't there on screen prompts???????

[@LuigiScout]

tgsachris There were. And I still didn't know.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

"mystical fruit loops..." Okay, that got me.

[@spicypicklez6410]

Sonic has heartburn. Lol

[@mikeanthony3300]

Oh wow, I just notice that the flame is actually where Sonic's heart should be! Good one! XD

[@deadchannel4792]

Sonic and the last 7 Tums packs in the grocery store

[@gvnrehmana5625]

Spicypicklez Gaming Sonic and the 7 Gaviscons.

[@RomoBomo]

It's from eating all those chili dogs.

[@GarArtStudios]

lol you shouldn't have "lost any friends" bashing one of the worst Sonic games in history.

[@IvanovIvanAKrutoi]

The friends that he lost are the people who wanted him to review Knuckles Chaotix or Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed instead.

[@matthewrease2376]

One of the worst? Fuck that, this is much better than some other Sonic games.

[@alphonsejohnson5601]

@@matthewrease2376I know right. This game and the black knight are better than sonic06, shadow the hedgehog, and Sonic boom.

[@ccxlfusion2005]

You mean a game that apparently no one knew how to use the controller with and therefore it was somehow bad?

[@azimmeme9994]

@@matthewrease2376 True.

[@ProtoMario]

Sonic Dash is really great honestly, as long as it is played for free.

[@Lunaxxor]

+ProtoMario since when do you watch SomeCallMeJohnny?

[@stormdragonscalegaming]

@@Lunaxxor I've seen this guy in so many vids

[@finnthomas7014]

*microtransactions appear out of nowhere*

[@krx50]

any plans to re-review Sonic and the Black Knight?

[@awsomemodels]

KRX50 no

[@blaa6]

KRX50 I hope so. I love that game.

[@DragonspineInfiniteZero]

yea like johney vs SATBK DX?

[@blaa6]

Next year, I think.

[@nah4467]

No, its too legendary to be reviewed again and it was way better than this game but Game Grumps did finish it last year and had plenty of laughs with the game.

[@Knuxfan24]

Fun Fact: The Party Mode can be played with Gamecube Controllers despite the game NEVER mentioning that.

[@stevespud2707]

Are you serious?

[@Knuxfan24]

Yep. Now if only the main game could be controlled with it.

[@stevespud2707]

Knuxfan24 It would be tolerable. Still a very bland, mediocre game.

[@kylecampbell565]

That's like being able to control mario galaxy with the classic controller but only during the grand finale galaxy!

[@Dr.Indalecio]

How the fuck does secret rings rate higher than black Knight on metacritic. Black Knight is MILES better then secret rings

[@mikeanthony3300]

+CGO Kirito 4 words: Sonic using a sword.

[@Dr.Indalecio]

Mike Anthony But black knight was a million times better though.

[@mikeanthony3300]

***** Not really. Black Knight had the same exact problems as this game!

[@zackbowden2204]

+CGO Kirito Because Secret Rings doesn't have the sheer amount of monotony of Black Knight and it isn't a very inspired game.

[@thebasedbluebirb6772]

+Matthew Rubenstein hah. black knight does NOT have the best story. Adventure's story was better IMO.

[@Charlotte4Short]

Who wants him to do Knuckles Chaotix now?

[@lite64]

I do.

[@Charlotte4Short]

keinan martin uuuuhhhh, me or Johnny?

[@hansweiss469]

MEEEEE!!!!!

[@chaseorji5333]

Plz can you do it johnny

[@zhanethehedgehog7091]

ME!

[@PKSparkxxDH]

I loved the review, and I can't disagree with you. I wish Sonic and Sega would've gotten picked, too! But seriously, the control are atrocious and, while they get better over time, there are many people who aren't so patient with bad controls. My favorite thing about Secret Rings is the Night Palace music, Unawakening Float, and the Erazor Djinn battle. The entire fight just seemed so tense to me, especially after pushing through Night Palace. And yeah. F*&^* Dino Jungle's Egg Mission.

[@meghpatel993]

agree 100% pk

[@06dawkin]

Yes I love it :D

[@The_Chosen_Heretic]

Cough cough Dark Souls cough cough.

[@thundercat012]

I have the game for my self a I have the most hardest time either its try to jump or doing the homing attack and with out having a rage quite.

[@MeanBeanMachine5]

Harold Ervin IV myself* without*

[@CaptainL95]

Showing the Metacritic scores for the Storybook games hurt me. Not just because it proves there was a time Secret Rings was considered passable, but HOW IS BLACK KNIGHT A WORSE GAME?! It's better than Secret Rings in literally every area!

[@SuperGamefreak18]

IKR....it fixed every mistake made by Secret Rings...and has a more badass soundtrack and super form

[@AidGum]

Yea, but it had more problems of its own, like the stupid sword.

[@kitty-xk3xx]

Better than Secret Rings honestly isn't much.

[@MarioFanaticXV]

Agreed; Black Knight was decent... Not a great game, but decent. Secret Rings was nearly unplayable.

[@2yu556]

Metacritic reviews are downright broken. I read reviews of Dota that make notes of where improvements should be, and give it 100/100; then I read reviews for games that, in my opinion are miles better and get 70/100. This wouldn't be a problem, except the reviews for the 70/100? "This is one of the best games I've played in a long time and would recommend it to anyone." "Favorite game, can't stop playing it, 80/100." "Literally flawless, 75/100" - Random "Professional" reviewers. Its simply stupid.

[@ThatOneShyguyCartoons]

I'll say what Johnny is too polite to say. Fuck this game.

[@Robbie_Haruna]

This is honestly my least favorite Sonic game. Most Sonic games with bad control I can at least trudge through and adapt to the slippery/stiffness. This... I just couldn't. It was too bad.

[@jske60]

I remember getting it with black knight. I played the first level. I promised myself to never to play again. Black knight was good though.

[@ScorpioTheScorpion1503]

I never even got past the tutorial level! That's how bad I couldn't control this thing!

[@MrBioniclefan1]

I got through some of the levels and stopped playing it this game is so bad it could have killed the wii.

[@cozmicvideos702]

I personally think Sonic Chronicles was worse, even though that's probably because BioWare made it (yes, the same BioWare who made Mass Effect. How could they fuck up an RPG?), but Secret Rings is no better. I never got past the first tutorial level!

[@MrBioniclefan1]

CozmicVideos LOL at least I made past that level

[@KrazyBean14]

This would've actually been one of my favourite Sonic games if it wasn't for the piss poor motion controls.

[@RingBoxGmod]

the music,story,graphics,writing are all terrible.

[@KrazyBean14]

***** They aren't outstanding but I don't think they are that bad.

[@TheFirstSilverCore]

***** I'm personally a fan of most of the music, but i agree that everything else is bad

[@TheFirstSilverCore]

***** Except for the extremely repetitive MAKE BELIEVES REBOOORN ...that got annoying REAL quick

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

***** what? The graphics, for a early wii game are very very good tbh.

[@RosyTheRascal15]

Johnny forgot to talk about the infamous cheesy line in the game, sonic's wish. -_- God i hate that line.

[@bangtankrew]

Mee too

[@stoppedgold5852]

Rosy the rascal 15 I've seen all you fans dislike you because you hardly done any videos

[@stoppedgold5852]

And I don't like that line either

[@AwesomeShocker]

That line is so cheesy, you can almost taste it, but yet at the same time, it kinda sounds badass to me. I'm not really sure why, but I guess it has to do with the inflection of Sonic's voice at the end. Yeah, I'm odd.

[@AwesomeShocker]

***** In hindsight, it's that "handkerchiefs" line. At first, I thought it was Sonic's 3rd wish, which I still do think, but definitely not as much as the fouth wish.

[@John-nt3dk]

Honestly, the cutscenes look better than sonic boom

[@TheCeraization]

Sonic Boom: Rise of Archaic

[@gameman5804]

John Minter Sonic Boom: Rise of Repetitive.

[@shellshock638]

gameman5804 Sonic and the secret rings: The worst sonic game ever made.

[@shellshock638]

Drew The Conqueror of Worlds Running in a straight line, with awful buzz killing motion controls, set in a Arabian world, where none of sonic's friends technically don't exist. Yeah designed like a sonic game.

[@gameman5804]

Yeah seriously, at least with 06, Shadow, and Boom. I can freely control my character.

[@lillump5678]

I have a great deal of nostalgia for this game. It's terrible but it still holds a special place in my heart

[@lithgaia]

I feel the same with "Black Knight"😊

[@DEVeloper_ACE]

Bruh that's me but with sonic 4

[@tardistroll3494]

Same feeling here

[@electricmastro]

And with that, the 3D Sonic platformer reviews have come full circle.

[@dumbsville]

We still need Sonic Boom (and any other upcoming 3D Sonic games).

[@electricmastro]

You mean SGB Review - Sonic and the Black Knight and Johnny vs. Sonic Lost World (Wii U & 3DS)?

[@dumbsville]

electricmastro Woops, I forgot about that Black Knight review. Sonic Boom, still, though. He'll review it, though. It's kind of obvious. :)

[@jmcfar03]

Should make a month of handheld sonic. Sonic advance-sonic colors.

[@dumbsville]

Joshua JJM12 That is a really good idea. JOHNNY, GET BACK TO WORK! *whip crack*

[@NitroRad]

It sounded like you burped at 1:43

[@IbarraFilm]

Nitro Rad XD

[@buttermeat6529]

Radical

[@SmashSSL]

xd

[@Doomshroom8]

"A link between the worlds" Guess what I thought of.

[@isaacplayer4268]

Quiggity Quooty A much better game?

[@zachster1420]

+Quiggity Quooty Skyward to the Past of Time?

[@Noelfriday]

Call of Duty

[@Freshy10]

Wind Waker

[@Doomshroom8]

@@Freshy10 Correct

[@markawesome916]

All this time, MrBlackDarkness666 was trying to summon Sonic, not Satan.

[@557deadpool]

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSS

[@psirockin2251]

7 mystical frootloops... That's a word for it

[@Omar_E11]

%100 agreed Johnny. I remember somewhat liking this game when it first came out, I must have been desperate for anything after 06.

[@TheBlueTyphoon17]

I used to think this was decent back when I first played it in 2011, but after going back to it four years later and trying to beat it 100%........... ....this is now one of the worst Sonic games I have ever played.

[@Omar_E11]

TheBlue Typhoon17 I don't blame you. I do however think 06 had a bigger effect on the franchise, so it ultimately comes before Secret Rings on my top 10 shitty Sonic games list. Though I do find this piece of crap more frustrating, especially the control! Like, what the fuck?!

[@TheBlueTyphoon17]

Omar Elmosrati 06 did have a bigger effect, seeing as it was the game that Sega claimed would bring the series back on top. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. However, my perspective on 06 has sort of changed over the years since I first got it. Aside from the Mach Speed sections, occasional BS glitches, the godawful story, and (shudders) Princess Elise, nothing else really made me lose my cool. The game is still shit, don't get me wrong, but I guess some parts of the game eventually grew on me and became guilty pleasures.

[@Omar_E11]

TheBlue Typhoon17 Don't forget the abysmal hub worlds, the art style hardly fit the Sonic series at all, there were WAY too much characters in 06, and pretty much every gameplay style that wasn't Sonic, Blaze and sometimes Shadow absolutely sucked. The voice acting was pretty off too, controls were very stiff however I'd take that over the control in Secret Rings anyday, useless upgrades.... Er, let's just say I could go on for quite a while. Clement's review pretty much sums it up. What really ruined Secret Rings for me was the control, if it was more like The Black Knight I probably wouldn't dislike it as much.

[@doubledio3061]

No excuse , you have colors

[@justpassingthrough1733]

I beat this game and honestly I didn't think it was that bad especially since I managed to get used to the controls somehow. Perhaps it may have been I was a little more patient as a kid or maybe it's because I was so dedicated I couldn't stop without beating it.

[@jaredargento1511]

It’s most likely because you played it as a kid. Granted, I’ve never played that game, but after hearing what Johnny and some other people have said about it, I highly doubt that I would get any enjoyment out of it.

[@okagron]

Most people as kids have far more tolerance for questionable game design choices compared to when they are adults.

[@leeiif]

I agree with most everything he said. I think that having Sonic control with the nun-chuck in Sonic and The Black Knight was a major improvement and actually made the game very good. In fact I would like a continuation of the story book series on the Wii U. I feel that they could do something with the game pad. Sonic and the Greek Gods maybe? Anyone? Please?

[@WallzTheGamerplaysGames]

Yeah! I agree with you!

[@PKspectre]

Holy shit SO MUCH YES

[@ngchloe4877]

Sonic of war

[@sorual4604]

i just remember years ago that someone of sega said "dont worry. it will be a trilogy" and we have yet anything that gives us reassurance as if if it hasent been forgoten or not. im actually a big fan of this storybook sonic idea. i think it has amazing potential! i personally would love sonic and greek mythology or sonic and the wild west. :)

[@zyad48]

ugh just dont make use of the gryoscope feature that shit fucked up in sonic lost world so yes if they do do a Sonic and the Greek Gods(which I personally would like to see as well) then I hope they just use a normal fucking controller

[@obitwokenobi9808]

When Johnny says he'd rather play Shadow the Hedgehog or Sonic '06 *you know you've fucked up.*

[@pichi08]

I'll be honest, I think Sonic and the Black Knight is not only better that Secret Rings, I actually enjoyed it and had a good time playing it. It Black Knight, after a while, it gets repetetive and slightly tidious, but I enjoyed the great soundtrack, the nice and somewhat colorful landscapes and just enjoying using a sword to destroy every enemy in my path. Even though Black Knight is also an automatic runner game like this game, you can actually stop and move back comfortably (in most areas) Out of both storybook games, I enjoyed Black Knight the most, but it's just my opinion

[@vom3716]

You like black night? Ohohoho~ XD

[@pichi08]

I *love* Black Knight, I had so much fun playing it! >w

[@TheBlueTyphoon17]

Franiah Meliza Sonic and the Black Knight is a *very* underrated title, in my opinion.

[@pichi08]

TheBlue Typhoon17​ True, but I actually enjoyed it XD

[@TheBlueTyphoon17]

Franiah Meliza Same here.

[@derekspradling7452]

I'm a video game pack rat, and so this is one of the few games I returned to gamestop. For me, there was SOME fun to be had with Sonic and the Secret of the Ring, but I'm glad someone else feels the same way about the controls constantly pushing you forward. That just killed it for me. I do like some of the music though. If it's not annoying, at least its catchy as hell. I mean this game and sonic 06 dished out some awesome rock anthems in my opinion.

[@tannerprice2018]

I loved Sonic '06's soundtrack.😇

[@JacobParanoia]

+Tanner Price Same

[@aztn19]

This is how I feel about Sonic and the Black Knight. The game was a "so weird/bad, it's good/entertaining" type of game. The soundtrack is pretty catchy & the game looks good graphically, but those motion controls.... If it were just a brief gimmick rather than the games' main focus, the Storybook Series could have been much better. Those are 2 games I'll never put back in my collection

[@derekspradling7452]

A hedgehog on drugs!

[@79jimmyhat]

Derek Spradling

[@the_pinkienator8896]

2:27 Sonic....Reading?

[@Mectro15]

Julian Bigelow he got bored

[@infinite5377]

Sometimes, you must proceed at a lower velocity

[@kyles.8332]

GOTTA READ FAST

[@psychie8625]

Apparently the guy likes reading. I'm not sure where I heard this though.

[@OperationDEEZ]

13 months later and I am still immensely pissed that this wasn't Knuckles Chaotix.

[@shellshock638]

Why? This game deserved a good spanking. LoL.

[@nathanparker8604]

Johnny, I know you hate Shadow's game, but I'm not surprised that you said it was more tolerable than this. Fuck Secret Rings.

[@zyad48]

***** FUCK SECRET RINGS, AS BAD AS SHADOWTH WAS, IT WAS BETTER THAN THIS ABOMINATION

[@nathanparker8604]

I liked Shadow's game. Then again, I'm probably the only one in this feed.

[@robotsnake9374]

Nathan Parker I liked it, especially the multiplayer.

[@OperationDEEZ]

I liked the game, that doesn't make it a good game, but I liked it.

[@KnucklestheEchidna-TheBest]

Nathan Parker Shadow's game *WAS* good. Don't know why everyone hates it..

[@koerier718]

I loved Secret Rings. When I was little......

[@protoluigi2047]

Yeah, but even as a kid, I feel like that it was kind of garbage and should have bought better games like FE: Radiant Dawn or Castle of Shikigami III.

[@lukeeichenlaub3183]

@@protoluigi2047 Honestly I liked it, maybe I should give it another try.

[@protoluigi2047]

Luke Eichenlaub Well I liked playing the game a bit also.

[@theminecraft2516]

I hated it when I was little, and feel meh towards it nowadays

[@ViewtifulValentine]

Sonic and the secret rings for me...is kind of a guilty pleasure. I acknowledge it's flaws and all but there is something about it that I just enjoy when I play it and I really like the Palace level before the finale of it.

[@carlosbleu7396]

Like for Sonic adventure 1&2, Sonic heroes, Shadow the hedgehog and Sonic and the black knight: all these games haven't an excellent gameplay but the story is interesting and that's why they are good.

[@carlosbleu7396]

It didn't prevent to a lot of people to recognize the potential of these games even if the gameplay isn't perfect. And if the story really didn't matter in Sonic games, we would have still and only Sonic against Dr Eggman for again and again saving wild animals.

[@carlosbleu7396]

I don't say it is useless but a bad scenario and a bad gameplay make a bad game unless (not totally) an unperfect gameplay and a good story like for Sonic adventure 1 and 2 for example.

[@SpeedRaptor]

Imagine if we ended up having the 06 port instead of this and turned out the port fixed the glitches and loading screens, ending up in an actual good game? Yeah, fat chance, I know.

[@michaelrobert6386]

This review is almost a decade old. How time flies.

[@tbonbrad]

The voice reverb on the chorus is everything. I hear it, and I'm driving like a mad man in GTA. I don't even have a license.

[@michaelrhett4958]

"Majin Buu? But I reviewed budokai 2 and 3." Best quote in this review.

[@leon2550]

6:36 wait... this is considered better than black knight?! WHAT?!

[@marxjevilanddimentio9184]

Cuz secret rings is better than black knight

[@jaredargento1511]

archie sonic I think a lot of people would strongly disagree with you on that. Granted, I haven’t played Secret Rings, but I have played Black Knight and enjoyed it. And after hearing what Johnny and some other people have said about Secret Rings, I HIGHLY doubt that I would see ANYTHING of value in that game.

[@Mojo1356]

@@marxjevilanddimentio9184 no it’s not.

[@azimmeme9994]

@@jaredargento1511 Play it then.

[@jaredargento1511]

@@azimmeme9994 I’d rather not run the risk of making myself more miserable than I have to. It’s a case of “curiosity killed the cat”.

[@IbarraFilm]

Don’t worry, the Knuckles Chaotix review is only... 89 reviews away...

[@GrizzleyBearGamer96]

Plot Twist: Shahra was really Shantae and she was siding with Sonic to defeat the evil genie Erazor Djinn(unexpected Aladdin reference to Jafar) and Risky Boots from taking over Shantae and Sonic's worlds by using the secret rings and genie magic. Btw. That would be a cool crossover. Maybe Shantae could have a canon in the Sonic Universe.

[@jacksonholder2987]

"And then he just sorta leaves to do genie things." Laughed so hard at this line XD

[@OniLink99999]

I voted for Knuckles Chaotix Johnny =P Great review as always! I don't actually remember the game being half bad, but I haven't revisited it since my initial playthrough in 2007. At the time, I'm pretty sure I enjoyed it - I definitely considered it a huge step up over Shadow and 06 anyway.

[@thecommenter6773]

me too, i really wanted to see his reaction to the whole stage select and the layouts, and the chaotix's abiites

[@OniLink99999]

thecommenter67 Good point, I can see a lot of potential there. Actually, if memory serves, Johnny's playing Chaotix for the August Sonic Marathon for Child's Play, so that should be fun. And I guess he'll get to reviewing it sooner or later =D

[@stardust-reverie]

It's 3:22 AM... I need to be up at 8:00... I can't stop watching these videos... help...

[@RealAyoTark]

Watching Johnny's reviews are like fine wine, they only get better with age!

[@PM90005]

3:05 rest in peace

[@AlexandruCatrina-bk6jg]

Lago: WHAT AN A**HOLE!

[@DiscordedHaru]

>that intro part about Chaotix and Transformed losing Thanks a fucking lot, guys. We could have had one of two games (one of them is barely talked about, the other you all told him repeatedly you wanted him to review anyways) reviewed that he and people really haven't seen much of or at least with Chaotix, I would have personally had my thoughts on that put to rest cuz I've never played it. But no. THIS game had to win. *sigh*

[@DiscordedHaru]

TheAntagonistGreen I don't have to agree to it. Lord forbid I have my own opinion.

[@DiscordedHaru]

Captian Meowz Aww thanks. :D

[@christoferkk]

DiscordedHaru why does vinyl scratch have mouse ears in your pic?

[@adamwilliams1348]

Still, I loved what I played in Chaotix. I had to play the game in year-separated increments, and I feel this game is an infuriating, trial-and-error motion controlled festival of terrible graphics, level design and mission-style plot. Not as bad as Sonic 06, but damned near close.

[@DiscordedHaru]

Comfortcat Games Deadmau5 is a male performer. :/

[@Lunalite]

The Seven Mythical Fruit Loops: The game!

[@zyad48]

pft xD hahahaha

[@Lunalite]

Minecast Zyad48 Game of the year edition!

[@zyad48]

SonicFanChannel2 YUS C:

[@Lunalite]

Minecast Zyad48 Someone should call SEGA and say we have the next game for them

[@zyad48]

SonicFanChannel2 you got that right

[@daisukedoi9284]

I love this game.. I have a freaking level 99 dark element sonic

[@sahbaestahbanaty9673]

TheHumanSonikku wish mario games get angry review people that think sonic suck mario games can get worst than sonic games i mean sega >nintendo

[@ahmadballout6652]

+Sahba Estahbanaty "I wish more people would agree with my dilutional opinions because I need validation"

[@garchompchump9274]

almost all of mario's main line games are great for their genre. it never really tries to go for the stupid gimmicks that the sonic franchise does, which ruins the future games. its like throwing something at the wall over and over again until you get something that's good, which a majority of the time its horrible

[@sahbaestahbanaty9673]

Garchomp Chump i know but im just saying is that mario isnt perfect franchise nor even gta cod uncharted etc or even sonic games imean whatever even best developers trying to make best games one day they will be fail like so its kind of natrual to see company like sonic team become fail same goes even to nintendo even they tried to make their best at making mario zelda etc games in other days they will have same problem like what sonic team capcom and others company does but what ever also dont get me wrong i highly agreed with you but then again im just saying sonic games has chance to surpass mario games or even other other platformers and yeah that all i have to say and sorry for my bad english too

[@infinite5377]

Sahba Estahbanaty My man

[@CluelessAnon]

Why would anyone be angered by Johnny's opinion on this game? It's clearly not fun for him, and if the five or six people out there that actually enjoyed this game see this, they can suck it.

[@zyad48]

Colin Parlett one guy told me that it was everything a sonic game is supposed to be... and I fucking spammed him with insults until he fucking blocked me because he fucking deserved it

[@tgsachris]

Zyad48 - The Warrior of Evil congratulations, you are the reason everyone hates sonic fans. What he deserves harassment for having a different opinion then you? Fuck off

[@tgsachris]

Zyad48 - The Warrior of Evil You sound far to proud of making an ass of yourself. You claim he attacked your opinion yet he had to block your spam? That doesn't sound like a victim, it sounds like a petty little brat who had his feelings hurt by someone else. No version that works you say? That is YOUR stupid ass opinion, while a majority of people may agree that doesn't make it the only opinion, nor does it make other opinions wrong. Someone else is allowed to like the motion controls. Just because you dont does not make him wrong. And spamming someone until they block you, regardless of the reason, is a childish, stupid thing to do. Again you sound like a child trowing a temper tantrum and a complete jackass.

[@zyad48]

tgsachris let me explain what happened, I was talking with one guy, he said he didnt try sonic generations because of the bad taste left in his mouth from shitty fucking secret rings, i told him that he shouldnt let that get in the way of him playing one of the best sonic games of all time, the other guy who blocked me came in and told me that I cant say that because secret rings is "the way sonic should be" and I told him every single flaw that the game had and how its nowhere near what sonic is supposed to be, I tried to reason with him and he himself decided to block me out of his shear retarded ignorance

[@tgsachris]

Zyad48 - The Warrior of Evil "one guy told me that it was everything a sonic game is supposed to be... and I fucking spammed him with insults until he fucking blocked me because he fucking deserved it" These two stories do not seem to match for some reason is all I'm going to say

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

Its wild that Erazor Djinn is the genie from the original Aladdin story, bc when I think Aladdin I think of the Disney movie. Imagine Erazor being voiced by Robin Williams' genie.

[@kirstieperkins896]

Rented this game recently and I LOATHE it almost as much The Great Clement loathes Sonic 06. The controls are obnoxious as is the constantly moving forward thing with Sonic, which makes Sonic handle like he's drunk. Shahra is a total wet blanket, all she does is nag you and angst all day long(not someone who should be hanging someone who is as energetic and non chalant as Sonic). I played the game for about a couple of days seeing how far I could progress through it, but I was mostly just irritated to the point of needing an ibuprofan. So I rage quit the game, yanked it out of wii and shoved it back into my mailbox. The only redeeming quality the game has is the soundtrack, Seven Rings in Hand is a great song even if it is played ad nauseam and I love the themes of Sand Oasis and Evil Foundry.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

try it with a wii U. better control really... as for your experience, the gameplay is pretty bad but I'm getting confused at the whole "if its on rails its shit" argument. granted, the Wii made the impression but i'd likely enjoy the game better than the nightmare I had with Sonic 06. and the story is shit writing. Mr Naka really wanted to leave Sega.

[@michaelsmith3533]

Haruhi Suzumiya We don't want a railroad Sonic. Save that shit for the crappy mobile games.

[@jjc4924]

Haruhi. It still plays like shit no matter if you're playing it on the Wii or Wii U.

[@pokepikoo]

I'll still never understand people who like this over Black Knight, when that game has actually quality in it.

[@gameman5804]

pokepikoo I’m not fond of the story book games in general, but Black Knight to me is way better compared to Secret Rings.

[@jjc4924]

I'm not really an huge fan of Black Knight. But even I'll admit that it's an 2× better game than Secret Ring.

[@ClydeJHatbird]

I remember actually loving this game when I started. Having to wander about missions to find the world rings was something I didn't mind since it felt something akin to exploration in a weird way. Unfortunately, as I got deeper into the game, control issues started to rear up due to the stages getting far more demanding with what they expected you to preform compared to overall responsiveness. I ended up rage quitting in the end out of supreme frustration because I truly did enjoy the game.

[@ChrisTrenary]

"Though I could really do without all the ingame notifications telling me to spend real money to get more shit" *immediately gets 3rd in-video Comcast ad* Mhmmmm...... (No hate Johnny, I get that you need to earn something but that was really funny and ironic timing to me XD)

[@konfapooch]

Still better than Superman64

[@yukuho8047]

I personally loved this game. Soundtrack one of my favorites from the whole series.

[@They_are_Arthur]

Even when I was Sonic crazy when I was 6 years old, I thought this game was mediocre.

[@shellshock638]

***** Gonna be honest................i think secret of the rings is the worst sonic game ever. Its one of the worst video game experiences I've ever had. The controls are to sensitive as well as to complicated despite the simple idea of the gameplay, the level design for the most part feels copy, and pasted through out, and even though the art styled visuals look nice, I don't think it means that much, if I can't explore it or stop and look at it. Its easily the worst sonic game I've played next to 06, but at least with 06, I found some replay value out of it.

[@shellshock638]

***** I've played it on both systems and used both controller's. Either way its terrible. On the bright side at least its not a big hyped up monster of horribleness like 06. Still between the 2, secret of the rings takes the cake.

[@shellshock638]

***** How long have you been playing the game?

[@shellshock638]

***** I meant secret of the rings how long did you played it.

[@shellshock638]

***** So you got used to the controls. That's why some love 06. They can get around the bad level design and glitches by playing the game a million times but that dosent make up for the 1st few times you play it. Its bad game design.

[@OmegaChase1002]

People fixed Unleashed and 2006 by modding their levels into Generations, so why don't they do the same with this game? Get on it, modding community!

[@ExiletheJedi]

It's a wii game, they probably won't take it seriously.

[@OmegaChase1002]

Wii had some awesome games.

[@ExiletheJedi]

True, but the graphics were bad.

[@OmegaChase1002]

Only retarded biased scrubs give a fuck about graphics. Gameplay takes priority.

[@ExiletheJedi]

Yeah, your right. I still like the WII, despite the graphics, the games are good.

[@RarefoilB]

00:22 Hey, I voted for it. Don't blame me.

[@ajmorales1825]

I remember this game with sort of a bias, seeing how when I first played it many years ago, it was at my best friends place. I was small, and I had very little experience with any other sonic game -I didn't know about heroes till I got my own Ps2 ((yes, the crappy version)) and I didn't play the classic series until much later, same with the adventure titles and sonic 06-. And, to be frank, It wasn't the levels I really liked, hell I probably wouldn't remember them had not for me buying the game years later, along with colors as part of a cheep, bundle pack. The only thing I remembered fully was the boss fights, well..most specifically the Pirate boss, the Ifrit, and Af le-la wa-lela ((I think that's how you spell it)) who that boss was my all time favorite, till I fought against bosses like Yami, Doomsday Zone, Etc. Bottom Line, I loved this game as a kid, at least the bosses...but looking at it now, I can't even touch the game because of how bad/mediocre it is...

[@GyroTedi1]

Johnny hates this game more than Shadow the hedgehog and Sonic 06? That's the first.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

+GyroTedi1 he'll regret that statement, really? a broken game with worse control schemes and a plot that is too convoluted is somehow better than secret rings which was ambitious, but at least it had "better control."

[@flashdamc]

+Haruhi Suzumiya At least you can control movement in shadow and 06.

[@GyroTedi1]

I'm not saying he'll regret it, I'm just a bit surprised due to how much Johnny hates the Shadow game more than 06, the way he reviewed those games were like he was urging to punch someone in the face. Yet prefers them than Secret Rings despite how infamous and hated 06 particular is. But honestly I don't hate those games.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

GyroTedi1 well boom trumps all, still. and no, Sonic Generations 2 is a terrible name, just bite the cyanide pill Sonic team and make a SA3. why not, or will we see a Sonic colors 2?

[@GyroTedi1]

+Haruhi Suzumiya Yeah, I agree Sonic Boom managed to become the worst "Sonic" game of them all both by critics and fans. That game ruined everyone for me. I guess Sega got scared in making SA3 since the fanbase is so divided, but I could see it could work, same with Colours 2.

[@CEAONtheCeaon]

This review is sure to offend clement

[@Cartoonguy133]

Clement likes this game?

[@KNSonic]

Cartoonguy133 No, he doesn't.

[@KNSonic]

Cartoonguy133 No, he doesn't.

[@CEAONtheCeaon]

Cartoonguy133 I was referring to the part where Johnny stated he thought this game was worse than 06

[@gameruntiltheend9956]

ShadowRush's Playthroughs i think of this when johnny praised 06 clement somewhere: i hear the parsing of the 06 clment satarts to pull out hsotgun johnny: but i am not saying they are good games clement: goood put gun back in his pocket and i don't give a damn about the spellingg rammar nazis

[@PostMesmeric]

Stop digressing, Johnny. That's Clement's job.

[@aussiedrew8141]

apart from sonic flickies' island, sonic and the secret rings was one of my first sonic games, so stuff that drove others mad actually compelled me. this is still a great game, and deserves a bit more praise

[@demrmole2406]

It's unfortunate the story book collection failed because it was a very interesting premise of having sonic going through worlds based off the classic stories of old, it would have been at least nice to see a third game in the collection that had more polished controls and such

[@gigaspyro2]

Was anybody expecting this game to be good? Sonic is a huge joke now.

[@stevespud2707]

Especially since 2010. I think we are in a true dark age currently.

[@KidSnivy69]

And we are basically entering another dark age

[@michaelkemel9711]

KidSnivy69 Come on. Boom sucked, but you can't be so arrogant as to say that you know how the future will shape up for Sonic.

[@KidSnivy69]

Michael Kemel don't take a comment so seriously

[@michaelkemel9711]

KidSnivy69 I didn't mean to sound butthurt or anything, but still. We don't know what will happen.

[@StevenChungTop10]

Johnny: "Why didn't you guys pick Knuckles' Chaotix?" Me: In the words of Todd in the Shadows from his "Justin to Kelly" review: "That's a good question. That's an excellent question." Seriously, why didn't you guys pick Knuckles' Chaotix? I was just as happy to see Johnny review this game at all, but why not request that he review a game that has been relatively unknown throughout most of the gaming world. That's two shocking decisions made by the fans: Sonic and the Secret Rings & Guacamelee!

[@DiscordedHaru]

Even more baffling since half the reason they wanted him to review Guacamelee was because the main guy's name is Juan.

[@TheAntagonistGreen]

Because we wanted to make Johnny suffer and people have differing opinions? Lord knows we like making Johnny suffer. It's a Sonic game he'll eventually review it. Hell he's playing it for the Sonic for a cause marathon thinger. Seriously it's really not worth the time to try and ask "why didn't you vote for this". If Johnny REALLY wanted to review Knuckles Chaotix he wouldn't have put it up for a vote, or at least he shouldn't have. ESPECIALLY in the pool with as bad of a Sonic game as Secrete Rings is. Everyone's going to want to hear his opinion on the worse game, that's just how sadistic people are on the internet. Plus he said something about it back in his Sonic marathon.

[@StevenChungTop10]

TheAntagonistGreen But that's the thing. Most people already had that notion of Sonic and the Secret Rings being a terrible game. I would have thought that curiosity, not sadism, would play the bigger role in the options that were given to us. This is just from my own personal perspective, but I was much more curious to see Johnny review Knuckles' Chaotix above this abysmal game and the kart-racing game (of which I had little interest). Plus, Johnny already reviewed games like Sonic and the Black Knight, as well as Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing. Knuckles' Chaotix stands alone. As near as one could figure, it's the most unique out of all the other choices. "it's really not worth the time to try and ask 'why didn't you vote for this'"? The whole reason that I asked was because Johnny was the one who brought it up in the first place. It's a good question. You're right in the fact that Johnny will review Knuckles' Chaotix (and Journey) someday, but I guess what I'm saying is that it's a bummer that people didn't jump at this opportunity.

[@thomasmorris738]

"Sonic and shara embark on a quest to get the 7 magic froot loops." 😂😂😂

[@rewl_official]

I personally thought that "Erazor Jinn" wasn't that bad of a villan. He brought something new to the table that kinda got rid of Eggman's 'I'm going to rule the world'-thing. If only they could bring him back in a GOOD Sonic game again.

[@SpankSandwitch99]

Oh God. The Sonic Arabian Nights and Black Knight thing is just like those two movies A kid in King Arthur's Court and a kid in Aladdin's palace.

[@ShadowLady1]

I thought I was the only one that heard the werehog

[@diegobrando5831]

It's hard to believe this video is 7 years old.

[@AdamDampOwlPowell]

Right as Johnny said "I could really do without the in-game ads popping up and demanding I buy shit", an ad started.

[@dellybelly12345]

honestly, I liked this game a lot. I played it enough that I close to mastered the controls, and even got some power ups that made the game better and more fun.

[@ChippyGaming]

I played through this entire game and can't remember a god damn thing about it, such an awful sonic game

[@crustykeycap5670]

How am I the only one here?

[@theminecraft2516]

Shadow, 06, Rise Of Lyric, Secret Rings, and Forces are the failures

[@dog-earedlotus4109]

ch-chippy?

[@brianaranki340]

Why is it called a Storybook Series if there's only two installments? It should just be called a Storybook Duology

[@skittycreamstar]

I'm not gonna lie, I honestly loved playing this game and I'm glad that I still have it. XD The controls did throw me off of it for a while though.

[@Terker2]

People are stupid, i wanted to see Knuckles Chaotix but no, you have to make the wrong decision :P

[@DeadHandtheSurvivor]

So people are stupid because they wanted to see Johnny review a game that you didn't? Don't be stuck up. Also, how can there be a wrong decision in something like voting a game for Johnny to review? He asked his fans to pick one of the 3 sonic games to review, and guess what? People wanted him to review this game. Johnny has said in this video that since sonic '06 people wanted him to review Sonic and the Secret Rings, so that explains a lot.

[@Terker2]

DeadhoofofWind Yo, don't take everything so serious, because i wasn't.

[@DeadHandtheSurvivor]

Terker2 So you just made that comment to piss people off? Come on man, there's better ways to spend your time than doing low grade trolling.

[@Terker2]

DeadhoofofWind Trolling != Making a joke. I don't know why you get so pissed.

[@TheOtherHolly]

DeadhoofofWind Wow, I think you need to take a class called Emoticons 101. The :P emote usually indicates that someone is kidding. ._.

[@SethLafontaine]

I had a REALLY weird dream with Johnny in it...

[@IvanovIvanAKrutoi]

I had a dream too, when Johnny reviewed Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, but when I clicked the video it said "This video is blocked worldwide".

[@SethLafontaine]

Ivan Simpson you REALLY don't want to know what the dream was about.

[@SethLafontaine]

***** OH MY GOD DOUG IS AWESOME!

[@SethLafontaine]

And so is Johny of course.

[@SethLafontaine]

Ivan Simpson and if that happened in real life is scream.

[@thevgmlover]

This is actually the first Sonic game I ever played, actually. I absolutely understand this review, but, I love running fast, and in the end, this game delivers. I found the music pretty good, too, especially the Night Palace.

[@KidSnivy69]

You letting first game syndrome blind you.

[@thevgmlover]

I don't think so. I think it's because this, Sonic Colors (praise be that game), and Sonic Mega Collection for the GC are the only Sonic games I have in reality... Let alone, played, quite sadly... Oh wait, I did try the demos for Sonic Lost World, and Sonic Boom. Didn't get either.

[@KidSnivy69]

Angus McIntyre Your not missing much, don't worry. Well that is a short list of Sonic game. Sorry for accusing you

[@thevgmlover]

That's okay!

[@KyrinChase]

IMO Sonic 06 is a masterpiece compared to this Sonic 06 for me= Fun Secret Rings for me = Headaches and me breaking it with a sledgehammer

[@zyad48]

i agree, ill take sonic 06 over secret rings, I had an absolutely miserable time playing secret rings, havent tried sonic 06 yet but ik ill have a better time since I can ACTUALLY CONTROL SONIC

[@sadfalcon9623]

The most important thing to have in any video game, GOOD CONTROLS

[@crazycubedude]

THANK YOU! I have been saying the same shit ever since I finally beat secret rings after 4 years of trying to beat it. It was so bad that's how long it took me. I will gladly and willingly pop in 06 no problem. I would rather open beer bottles with my dick than play secret rings. I dread the day when I have to replay it for KZbin.

[@Step43099]

Secret Rings wasn’t that bad for me. Ion know I know it has problems but they weren’t that difficult for me as a kid

[@nightsky_877]

Atleast secret rings is better than boom rol

[@xcalibur64]

UNPOPULAR OPINION: I actually found Sonic and the Secret Rings to be pretty enjoyable.

[@hyper100000]

Me to even though controlling sonic when he is moving backwards is awful still even when you level him up to the max level.

[@SpookedForky]

The controls were horrible, but I mastered them after a while. The game was enjoyably challenging and the game was a neat idea.

[@chuyrenteria6252]

AnimewForkLord me too! Plus it was my first sonic game.

[@thejamman4070]

Calibur The Plumber good for you. I’m glad you can enjoy this game. I personally think 06 was better, and I REALLY don’t like 06.

[@lillyunova9733]

Xcalibur64 dont kill me but this is one of my favorite sonic games along side sonic colors unleashed black knight generations sonic 3 and knuckles! *hides in a fire sheild*

[@Mojo1356]

I’ve seen a lot of people say this game is great with better controls. The problem? This game throws in so many things that the better controls simply cannot fix with the biggest offender by far being world 4 with all of its 2D sections. I also hate every rampage mission because if you zoom past an enemy or your reticle decided not to lock on, you have to backstep so you can take the enemy out.

[@DavidGraham221]

The World Rings DO look like Froot Loops now that I'm looking at them closer

[@duckknuckles7880]

"If you're questioning why Shara's in tears after Erazor's sealed back up, well she apparently had romantic feelings f-..."Oh fuck, not again!"...Erazor."Oh.

[@phenomenalasshole]

John you forgot Big the cat

[@DeadHandtheSurvivor]

I think it's for the best that he did.

[@ethanator6015]

DeadhoofofWind Yeah. It really is for the better.

[@MegaManDBZX]

Honestly, I would love for Secret Rings to get a remake and make it play like Unleashed onwards. The story in it is actually pretty good. It just needs to be backed up by better gameplay.

[@carlosbleu7396]

In my mind, I would imagine a compilation of 3D Sonic games with some of them remade for a better gameplay. I would add: Sonic adventure 1&2, Sonic heroes, Shadow the hedgehog, Sonic and the secret rings, Sonic unleashed and Sonic and the black knight. Sonic colours, Sonic generations and Sonic lost world are good but too recent to have a remake.

[@thundershock720]

7 mythical froot loops i am giving a thumbs up just for that

[@ABlob]

To jump off the rails, you need to hold down the 2 button to charge your jump and let go once you want to jump.

[@SuperSolaris666]

Which is super stiff and non-intuitive.

[@ABlob]

@@SuperSolaris666 It is, but I'm not sure how else they could've done it. 1 breaks on rails, a tap of 2 does a rail hop which speeds you up, tilting the remote left or right is for rail switching. They could've used the D-pad but that probably wouldn't have been as "fun".

[@SuperSolaris666]

I mean, the A Button exists to fill in for the rail acceleration.

[@Mojo1356]

@@ABlobor you know, make flicking the remote actually work like grinding in Shadow the Hedgehog.

[@JMandJJ7797]

I think the reason people voted for this game Johnny is so you would bash it.

[@Protagulous]

I concur

[@retro_redgrave]

MegaMan X Marathon!

[@Zero-tn4kk]

YES!

[@retro_redgrave]

Super Domains Well at least X1-6 anyways. John has said that he has not played X7 or X8. And CM will take who knows how long..

[@IAmMugel]

X Hunter Vile He can skip X7. It was terrible. X8 on the other hand is probably one of the best out there (this is coming from a guy who's loved X since the first game came out mind you) Personally, X1-X5 would be good enough for me, then skipping to X8. But meh, you gotta do them all in order sadly.

[@retro_redgrave]

IAmMugel And then theres the two GBC games and Command Mission. But they can be their own separate reviews.

[@IAmMugel]

X Hunter Vile that's right! I forgot Command Mission. For some reason I enjoyed the hell out of that game. Really dunno why... meh :P it's Megaman X and it's an RPG. Pretty much my two favorite things in gaming. I can see Johnny reviewing Extreme 2 though. Can see him saying how "utterly fucking broken" it is once you get rapid fire and buster shot power 2 (or whatever they were called it's been awhile) but yeah. Game's just too easy. I beat every boss simply by standing there and holding the fire button lol.

[@reecefennel3082]

the controls are actually really hard! I have also played it and the stopping-jumping thing is an nightmare. all-in all the game itself is okay, you actually do get the hang of the gameplay and it gets really fun

[@nohandlesplease]

wait a second... Sonic was able to absorb 3 of the world rings cause he was angry... Asura gets a power boost when he is angry... IT'S SONICS WRAITH!!!

[@brawlmaster012]

"Why didn't you guys pick Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed?" I did. But I guess my vote was in the minority.

[@SaikyoNoFyuujon]

Well I wouldn't say you've made an enemy, but I personally never really had problems with the controls. I know I'm the odd one out, and for good reason, but I personally quite enjoy this title.

[@christianmorrell7701]

I gotta be honest this is a guilty pleasure of mine. I don't know why I just enjoy it.

[@Wilford870]

Sonic and the Secret Rings' Metacritic score is higher than that of Sonic Forces'. MY HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED, HUH?