.223/5.56 - White Oak Armament 18" SPR Barrel Break-In and Accuracy Tests

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Johnny's Reloading Bench

Johnny's Reloading Bench

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@CaptainCreampie69
@CaptainCreampie69 6 ай бұрын
A pattern I have noticed with your videos is Nosler bullets are trash. They charge a premium and are budget performance. I’m glad you made all these videos. I have seen all of your videos and rewatch them occasionally now that you are done making content. You made the best reloading videos!
@jeremymcpherson9405
@jeremymcpherson9405 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. This test made me realize that my AR is not a POS, but the ammo I am using is.
@BlowinSoot93
@BlowinSoot93 4 жыл бұрын
As I'm just watching your catalog of videos, I just wanted to say I really appreciate your in depth subject matter. This channel alone is what got me started reloading 223 and 6.5 creed. Now im going to start on .44 mag and .357 mag. Just wanted to say thank you sincerely.
@MrMd5555
@MrMd5555 7 жыл бұрын
I purchased that exact barrel about 8 months ago and was extremely impressed as well. I had great success all the way up to 77 grain and actually had my tightest group to date with the 75 grain hornady bthp can't remember which powder without my log handy but this video has definitely re-sparked my interest in my spr build/load work up project so Thank you for that sir!
@johnulanowski3612
@johnulanowski3612 6 жыл бұрын
It's about keeping things consistent, we weigh power, we weigh bullets, some people weigh brass. if everything is consistent the bullets should by theory when fired have all land in the same spot. That's how I was taught. I hope this helps I have seen bullets differences over 5 grain higher or lower than the stated weight ....that may be the fliers... IT MAY TIGHTEN GROUPS I weigh all bullets and group them in boxes... Say they are ( 90 gr match KING ) stated on the box... I have found differences like 90.4grs. put them all together, 90.2grs and put them together and so on. I shoot them in the order of their weights. I have fewer fliers and tighter groups
@GaryBlankenship96b40
@GaryBlankenship96b40 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on bolt guns to milk as much as possible accuracy. In ar 15 style using good bullets such as smk auto scales are only plus or minus .1. Good prepared brass will get sub inch at 100 no problems
@WestDesertShooter
@WestDesertShooter 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent shooting! I think you're right this barrel will truly show if the Bullets will shoot well or not. Long range shooters of Utah built an AR with a WOA barrel and it shoots fantastic
@FullSendPrecision
@FullSendPrecision 7 жыл бұрын
I just put a WOA 18 inch Varmint barrel on a few weeks ago. Tack driver! I will be working on some loads soon!
@ThepDenNgoaiBien
@ThepDenNgoaiBien 5 жыл бұрын
Why not 24 nches barrel if you want that kind of accuracy??? 16 or 18 in barrel only use for tactical ..fast shoot to hit multiple targets...not good for a tight tight group
@RimfireAddicted70
@RimfireAddicted70 7 жыл бұрын
I really like the camera work of these videos. I could watch these all day! Great job, keep em' coming!
@briansupermag3918
@briansupermag3918 2 жыл бұрын
I know its an old video but i have fully enjoyed it so much as to subscribe. Kind of reminds me of me and my style of reloading. Good stuff
@jeffstevens156
@jeffstevens156 3 жыл бұрын
MERRY CHRISTMAS! Got my barrel! I chose the rifle length gas system. It seems to work good for me. Keep up the good work. Anyone I know that “I” think needs a better loading regime gets referred to YOU. I load the way You do. Happy New Year too.
@JaredKattner
@JaredKattner 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always brother! Your Grendel series convinced me to build one. Glad to see you back posting more recently. Also happy to see more ads coming back to your channel and other gun related ones. Keep shootin' and thanks!
@charlesludwig9173
@charlesludwig9173 2 жыл бұрын
A heavy load of RE-15 has delivered the best results so far for me shooting 77 and 80 grain SMK's from a match conditioned 1 in 7 twist / 20 inch barrel / iron sight AR-15 A4 which I use in Across the Course and Long Range Service Rifle Competition. Typically, 20 round groups at 100 yards are sub half MOA from sling supported prone position. And while the 80 grain bullet can get to the 1000 yard line nose-on, an MOA wind constant of 10, means an un-countered wind change of just 1 mph will displace bullet about 10 inches, meaning few X-Ring hits, since I cannot discern a 1 mph wind change. I have interest in trying out Power Pro 2000-MR for higher velocity and less pressure. I understand that the AMU has used it or something like it before it was on commercial market. At any rate, I think you might want to shoot some factory match rounds rather than going about it as you are. Doing that would give you a benchmark for your loadings based on your marksmanship, which appears to be undeveloped, since at the distance you are shooting to with the optic sight platform you are shooting should literally produce one hole 5 round groupings, even with loads having a high velocity swing from round to round. What you are showing are essentially bullet impacts which indicate no grouping ability at all and the need to learn how to point the rifle with constant sight alignment and pull the trigger without disturbing aim utilizing SMOOTH trigger control. . I'm not doggin' ya, but you just do not have the credentials to profess on this topic. Creds: Military Rifle Instructor assisting USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS, US Distinguished Rifleman, and NRA Long-Range High Master.
@perry296
@perry296 7 жыл бұрын
my WOA has close to 700 rounds through it since it's last cleaning and so far accuracy is still doing fine out to 800yds.
@arabiantxn
@arabiantxn 5 жыл бұрын
What caliber do you have ?
@hendrix923
@hendrix923 2 жыл бұрын
after a year i gave up trying to get under an inch with my spikes upper and did another build last week after seeing ur success with this WOA 18in SPR barrel (aero enhanced upper and Geissle MK8 rail). first time out with H75gr bthp ladder charges and got 5 shots at 100yds at .87in, was so happy. I know I can improve upon that but thank you for the all info and inspiration.
@amarshall621
@amarshall621 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Johnny- The editing work alone is impressive! Subscribed!
@TheRaulr151
@TheRaulr151 Жыл бұрын
love my White Oak barrel. 18' SPR in stainless and shoots just great when I do my part. When you get into loading in can drive you insane with all the variables to play with....powders, bullets, OAL, primers, etc. Really interesting to see you progress through each load and shot groups.
@THutch556
@THutch556 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome JRB, VERY nice barrel and VERY good shooting as well. Nice to see you testing with a match barrel, Congrats on the purchase. Looking forward to watching this barrel in future videos. If through out your testing you don't mind trying some of the following loads it would be great to see. 77 gr SMK's with up to 24.0 Varget 77 gr SMK's with up to 24.1 Vhit 140 77 gr SMK's with up to 23.2 8208 XBR 69 gr SMK, with up to 25.3 Varget. Thanks for making these great vids, thumbs up for sure.
@kayeszymanski6945
@kayeszymanski6945 7 жыл бұрын
hey Johnny we live 30 minutes away from the custom shop gun shop that manufactures those Overing jags. I picked up a couple the last time I was there and plan to pick up a couple pistol jags when I go back again. they even manufacture and odorless Solvang that does a nice job on cleaning out barrels. in the end you are right best way to break in a barrel is just to shoot it out take care
@OzarkSpirit
@OzarkSpirit 7 жыл бұрын
Nice to have you back in the groove! Great job today. Loved the camera work in the intro.
@1scottburns
@1scottburns 7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos... I appreciate the extra info..... sometimes I listen to it all sometimes I skip.... buts its always good. Thanks!
@astacrouse
@astacrouse 7 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed, love the content as a noob reloader. That being said, each video cracks me up, as it seems like something out of the Adams family. Thing keeps running around grabbing powder and bullets on screen!
@neilharris4462
@neilharris4462 7 жыл бұрын
welcome to the WOA dark side! The barrel sure makes load development a lot more enjoyable.
@JohnnysReloadingBench
@JohnnysReloadingBench 7 жыл бұрын
Small groups are a LOT easier to film, too!
@nbonner75
@nbonner75 4 жыл бұрын
Really encouraging to see your break-in groups weren’t a perfect ragged hole at 100 (don’t get me wrong - those are good groups). I just sent my first 20 rounds of factory JHP (cheep range ammo) through my PSA 416R 18” 223 Wylde and was feeling pretty lousy about 2” groups. But seeing your break-in groups with carefully measured hand loads makes me optimistic about what I’ll be able to do with some load development.
@JGoodZX6R
@JGoodZX6R 7 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen your channel. Love it! Would love to see this vs a Ballistic Advantage 18" SPR side by side accuracy test for those MK12 clone-ish guys. I've come around to liking my BA, but it does not shoot nearly that consistent.
@armedferret
@armedferret 6 жыл бұрын
My reaction was similar to yours when I first took out my white oak 20" varmint build.....i had to REALLY look around to find even factory ammo it would shoot very much over 1 MOA. Handloads, don't even think of having a big target. No point. I do love me some WOA barrel.
@Welder6131
@Welder6131 7 жыл бұрын
This is by far the most informative channel I have found Sir! None of this regurgitated garbage that people pull from other channels, filled with useless "facts". I'm in process of the same testing, thanks for being thorough with your presentation. SUBSCRIBED!
@blaineoneil9389
@blaineoneil9389 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best vids i have watched..honest well rounded..
@redlegfa8979
@redlegfa8979 7 жыл бұрын
You got to love a barrel that shoots everything well.
@deplorableredneck4.02
@deplorableredneck4.02 3 жыл бұрын
You did a great job..every barrel and ammo is different and you proved it..when I find a set of bullets that work for my gun I do not buy other ammo..thanks very detailed
@anthonyd2537
@anthonyd2537 7 жыл бұрын
18” SPR barrel ordered from WOA. Rifle length gas w 1/7 twist. My plan is it will never see anything lighter than 77 grain mk262 mod 1 or IMI 77 grain razorcore. $195 shipped on White Oak Armaments Black Friday sale. Thank you for leading me to this barrel JRB!!!
@JohnnysReloadingBench
@JohnnysReloadingBench 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up on this! I made a video to let everyone know. All of my viewers running WOA and shooting half inch groups is my idea of the perfect world!
@anthonyd2537
@anthonyd2537 7 жыл бұрын
Johnny's Reloading Bench Sounds pretty awesome to me too! I’ve got to build an upper for this barrel then I’ll get some shots on paper. Glad that I could help, hope this gets some other folks into this barrel at a silly price. Thank you JRB looking forward to mk262 mod1 clone video pt 11!
@marcrobert2603
@marcrobert2603 7 жыл бұрын
I see you are happy now. I was also happy when my CZ came back from factory with a barrel that grouped finally. Other people did say different. Ring a bell? Keep up the good work. Oh yes that vortex is very good choice. You are evaluated.
@TheHuntbear
@TheHuntbear 7 жыл бұрын
My grandson Anthony is building a AR-15 and I load rounds for him. The best group so far has been three shots at a hundred yards which covered with a dime. I loaded 22.6 grains of IMR 8208 XBR powder behind a Hornady 75 grain BTHP Match bullet. With a CCI SR primer. OAL 2.250. He is going to shoot at 200 and 300 yards next.
@davidpayne3604
@davidpayne3604 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always....in serious consideration for new accuracy barrel for an upcoming build and the White Oak bbl seems to get universally high marks....keep em coming
@jeffstevens156
@jeffstevens156 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving. Today is the day after,. I received my White Oak Arms barrel today. I have high hopes.
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 4 жыл бұрын
As the bolt carrier is critical because it's the heart of your functional system. You should invest a little bit into a bit better bolt carrier group. But it makes you quite well as long as it locks up good in that chamber that you have on that Barrel. Almost exactly the break-in procedure my gunsmith gave me for breaking in the stainless Barrel on my M1A. Fire 20 rounds, clean it good, shoot it. He has more experience and Firearms then any other four people I know and at least as much experience as any other expert I've ever heard of. He's been shooting National matches since he was 13 years old. When he went into the military and was shooting it the 500-yard range with his m14a Sergeant came up and told him all the things he was doing wrong. He looked at the sergeant and told him that when he can out shoot him he will listen to him. The sergeant immediately called what his score was and it was 13 Rounds in the ten ring. So he immediately dispatched him down to teach the people who have never fired Firearms before how to get the gun to shoot at least on a cardinal direction of West. Is your brass when you first shot it going forward of the rifle which indicates being over gassed, straight out the side, which indicates a pretty good adjustment. We're towards the rear of the ejection port which indicates undergassed. It looks like you're reaching back for the brass but it's hard to tell with the tight video shot you have. I replayed it at 1/4 speed, and it look like it was going straight to the right of the rifle. Your gas block does not need adjustment if that is so. When you move to 100 yards your shell came out and went to the rear. That means it's under gassed. JB is not an aggressive cleaner. It is a bore and chamber polishing agent. And 5.5 mm should fit into a 5.56 millimeter bore. It's whether or not it's truly smaller than the lands. Even with the 75 grain loads you're still ejecting the cartridge to the rear of the ejection Port. You still have it slightly under gassed. Even with the suppressor on it.
@jeffstevens156
@jeffstevens156 3 жыл бұрын
I have been out of reloading for accuracy because I got into a competitive niche’ . It is so very refreshing to see great groups from designed ammo! I got into the lackadaisical, shoot what factory they used. I let 3 inch groups be okay. However, it is not! I will watch You much more and will be doing a lot more shooting and reloading for accuracy. Thank You, and I’m sorry I got off track.
@Growing-in-the-Word3
@Growing-in-the-Word3 7 жыл бұрын
I love my WOA SPR barrel. It's pretty happy shooting 75gr Swift Scorroco II's with 24.1gr varget, LC brass with CCI 400. 2580fps at 36F. Shoots 3/4" or less at 100yds off a bipod. Likes the 69gr SMK's as well. Hitting steel at 300yds in about 3.5-4MOA patterns.
@pcbulletempire9872
@pcbulletempire9872 7 жыл бұрын
great choice on the barrel that is super with the 4166 I'm glad you're having trouble cuz I can't find a good load in that either the Nosler the partition bullets I've never had good luck with Partition bullet I'm happy for you and your Barrel watching those groups go in was just sweet
@elwhastrummer
@elwhastrummer 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting video. It's proof that even with a good barrel, the performance lagged with bullets that were historically crummy. What do you do, when you have a bullet that's supposed to be great, yet everything you try yields zip..? You're headed in the right direction, keep on trying different powder type and charge variations until you find something that works. This is what we do... Thanks for sharing your info!
@Cholton222
@Cholton222 7 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the work you do for the videos. Thank you bud.
@cmcclaren11
@cmcclaren11 4 жыл бұрын
I use my nylon brush as a jag. Maybe you would, maybe not. But I love it 👍🏼
@josephfeinburg3915
@josephfeinburg3915 4 жыл бұрын
This is my WOA 18" complete upper free floating varmint barrel fluted 1 in 7" twist attached to a Colt M-4 with a Geissele SSA-E trigger. Using reloaded Sierra 69 grain Match King bullets it shoots 3/8" five shot groups at 100 yards. I also have a Bushnell 4.5-18x40mm scope with Custom Turret label accurate out to 900 yards. The rings are 1" high QD aluminum. The group in the picture was with 65 grain Sierra Game kings which I use for deer..
@MikeSuma831
@MikeSuma831 Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait until my 20" WOA upper comes in!
@brianstuart4203
@brianstuart4203 7 жыл бұрын
Finally! Been looking forward to this!
@projectilepassion1315
@projectilepassion1315 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a White Oak fan, more so on the WOP (White Oak Precision) side of the products but I think everything they do is quality. Looks like you'll have a shooter with the right bullets and load.
@DB.KOOPER
@DB.KOOPER 7 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your vids and channel. Thanks for the hard work and the time spent bringing us this info mate. Doing the same thing with a PSA upper, for $299 I ended up with a lot more then $299 in solid parts (upper, M-Lok rail, Mbus Sights, some spares) and a fairly "meh" barrel that's just begging to get replaced with something quality. Right now I'm leaning towards Sionics or Faxon and if I go Faxon I'll likely buy a matching BCG (really like Faxon and their mentality as expressed on P/S and INRangeTV have been very eye opening).
@JohnnysReloadingBench
@JohnnysReloadingBench 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've heard nothing but good things about Faxon. Going cheap on everything except barrel sure has worked out for this 223 Wylde! Good barrel + halfway decent optic = accuracy. I wish I had learned that earlier!
@skeptikul270
@skeptikul270 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting the barrel nut off of a PSA upper
@josephfeinburg3915
@josephfeinburg3915 4 жыл бұрын
WOA 18" complete upper free floating varmint barrel fluted 1 in 7" twist attached to a Colt M-4 with a Geissele SSA-E trigger. Using reloaded Sierra 69 grain Match King bullets it shoots 3/8" five shot groups at 100 yards. I also have a Bushnell 4.5-18x40mm scope with Custom Turret label accurate out to 900 yards. The rings are 1" high QD aluminum. The group in the picture was with 65 grain Sierra Game kings which I use for deer..
@NOorah-oj8gt
@NOorah-oj8gt 4 жыл бұрын
White Oak Armament barrels are well worth the money. Plenty of matches have been won with them.
@jn2924
@jn2924 7 жыл бұрын
I got a 22" 8 twist barrel on my bolt gun in 223, and it shoots like crap with any 55 grain bullets. 50 and anything over 55 shoot fantastic though. Great video and awesome barrel!
@icuppu2
@icuppu2 6 жыл бұрын
Jared, do the math. Less than 55 grain is going to require RPMs higher than what a 1:8 barrel twist can give you under normal velocity. It is equivalent of trying to spin a light weight toy top with half the effort, it will behave like "crap". The heavier the bullet, the more mass, the more momentum, the more gyroscopic stability; enough to reach downrange at your target. If you were to shoot at much longer targets, the heavier bullets would behave like your 50 grain at short range. So, go with a higher velocity for the 50 grain, which I do not advise as it becomes very dangerous in order to gain gyroscopic stability from an 1:8 inch twist. It is better to accept the lightest of the heaviest bullet at the slowest velocity acceptable that will give you the best accuracy and stick to it with that gun; else, break out your pocket book, time, energy, and frustration. In other words, work with what works, do not try to make something that does not work, work because it is not broken. RPM = velocity x (12 / Barrel Twist Rate) x 60 Apply the value to the bullet weight and accuracy, plot it, graph it on Excel, and enjoy predicting the future.
@Hamchuck112
@Hamchuck112 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of those TCS jags. Ended up picking up more in various calibers. I recently bought a WOA barrel for my 18" SPR build. Excited to see how it shoots. I was just going to replace my PSA barrel but decided to build a new complete upper instead so it'll be a little while before I can accuracy test it, along with the new Vortex Viper 5-25. I don't reload, so I intend to use Hornady Black 75gr BTHP .223
@LunchboxTheMagnficen
@LunchboxTheMagnficen 7 жыл бұрын
While I know it's not really up to your standards, I'll take sub 2MOA with SS109 all day long. For that bullet? That's freaking great. Very excited to see what you can do with that barrel.
@vegapower454
@vegapower454 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to see your happy with your new barrel Johnny. I knew this would be a good shooter. Try some Varget and Reloader 15, they should do well.
@dan2496
@dan2496 7 жыл бұрын
That is some good shooting from you and that barrel... Real nice.. Dan
@j.settle6448
@j.settle6448 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Just wondering, why not 77 grn. Sierra MK. After all the White Oak SPR 1/8 is designed for them you know? As a long time White Oak SPR rifle length 1/8 barrel owner, mine LOVES 77 SMK's.
@jban9827
@jban9827 2 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting if you could use big box factory federal 55gr and wolf or tula 55gr as a baseline for comparison to see how much performance handloads give you
@DannyWalker1949
@DannyWalker1949 6 жыл бұрын
I sure did Appreciate this video🎥, Johnny. I just ordered one of these barrels yesterday for one of my Lower's. Thanks for ALL the HARD WORK you put into your video's👍🏻
@fook-joby-den6172
@fook-joby-den6172 4 жыл бұрын
Those gas blocks are made by SLR Rifle works, and just have WC markings. Them and Superlative arms are the two adj had blocks I trust. Ranging from $84-115. Check out armorally for superlative arms& righttobear for the best price on the sentry series gb.
@kevinstafford4475
@kevinstafford4475 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I went with WOA when I built my MK12 replica. The barrel is definitely top notch and I get just under MOA with my 75 grain hand loads. My next build will definitely incorporate another WOA barrel.. BTW, a 5.5mm borescope should fit. Not much wiggle room but as long as it doesn't exceed 5.56 you should be ok.
@wyldbill100
@wyldbill100 4 жыл бұрын
Well, by God? That'll do it! After watching your results...and my desire to have a relatively accurate ranger...pulled the trigger on the WOA barrel. Gonna use the JP carriage and the WOA bolt (as they'll do a proper headspace BEFORE sending it out). REALLY REALLY wanted to get into a 6mm ARC platform with Odin Works; however, everything was "OUT-OF-STOCK", so? WOA it is, by GOD! VERY informative video series, Mr. Jonny's Reloading Ranch.
@MrAwesomeglock
@MrAwesomeglock 7 жыл бұрын
All this 223 testing is starting making me wanting to buy 223 dies. Thanks again.
@MrS22222
@MrS22222 6 жыл бұрын
I see you got your money's worth with the new barrel. lol it's fun seeing your progression.
@southernshop8424
@southernshop8424 6 жыл бұрын
That's some awesome shooting, and very useful loading info
@markvogeler7564
@markvogeler7564 7 жыл бұрын
Pretty great video. If your interested in trying an accurate hunting bullet you should try the 65 gr sierra game king. Ive got a 16" 1-7 that consistently shoot those well bellow 1/2 moa and a 20" 1-9 that shoots then inside of 1 moa both with Varget.
@christopherwebb650
@christopherwebb650 7 жыл бұрын
A pleasure watching your video. Lots of informative value! SUBSCRIBED!
@hoagymaster63
@hoagymaster63 2 жыл бұрын
I used to use all sorts of different brass but I would sort by headstamp to try to keep it consistent. I saw a box of lapua 223 brass go on sale so I bought it to try out. It made quite the difference. It reduced groups by about .2-.25 MOA. Would love to see what that would do for your gun!
@DevinHarper
@DevinHarper 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, thank you for your hard work!
@chazzott
@chazzott 7 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, so much so just got a reloading set up......Thanks
@gkauto1959
@gkauto1959 14 күн бұрын
One bullet you should try is the Speer 50 gun flatbase HP, its a varmint bullet that is very explosive and yet crazy accurate! I also tried the same bullet in a 308, their 130 grain 30 cal Speer int HP is also very accurate and maintains its flight path all the way out past 500 yards, they would make for a great AR 10 experience with less recoil and excellent accuracy, Im talking about 3/4 in groups and better, depending on the gun and shooter. But give any of your AR 15's a treat, feed them that little 50 grain Speer tnt flat base, with how YOU shoot and load, I'll flat out predict a 1/2 group or better. Give the light 223 bullets a try!!
@Serenityindailylife
@Serenityindailylife 7 жыл бұрын
The Varmint nightmares never group well for me but my buddy has a 1-9 barrel that shoots them well. I even tried them in a 22-250 and it didnt like them either. All 6 of my AR's wont shoot them, neither will my Ruger American or Savage Axis. I have 1000 left that a buddy gave me and I just loaded some stuff up for blasting ammo for my Machinegun. I wont even shoot them through my cans because they shoot so bad, I'm expecting a baffle strike of one to blow up. I did see one not make it to the target in a very hot load another buddy did in his 22-250, it just blew up somewhere at the 100 yard indoor range. He said they were loaded to the nuclear level 4000fps is what he claimed.
@UnknownUser-td9pn
@UnknownUser-td9pn 7 жыл бұрын
thats a very nice new accurate barrel!
@rubeclayton8233
@rubeclayton8233 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome... Excellent Video.!! Great Information... .. I wonder how a Intermediate Gas Port on that barrel would perform...
@ImOldGregg
@ImOldGregg 7 жыл бұрын
ayyyy this barrel doesnt suck
@Ryter138
@Ryter138 7 жыл бұрын
Hornady 75g bthp shoots very well with 23.4grains of CFE223
@gerardogutierrez4924
@gerardogutierrez4924 6 жыл бұрын
I use 24.5 for 75g bthp and it groups very well with my ar
@glock17games
@glock17games 7 жыл бұрын
You could try to stick a bit of felt to the deflector to see if that helps against the brass getting dents. I see that alot on SIG 550s :) interresting Jag, and tbh i wouldnt worry to much over the O-Rings. You can buy bulk pack of those things in any half decent hardware store
@kfuller1419
@kfuller1419 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same scale! Love it that thing is accurate down to a single grain of powder
@Florida_War_Tribe
@Florida_War_Tribe 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Wow info overload but good research
@amistosophoto
@amistosophoto 7 жыл бұрын
Brother, you're awesome. Love the video.
@JohnnysReloadingBench
@JohnnysReloadingBench 7 жыл бұрын
You're pretty awesome yourself.
@garyjohns4711
@garyjohns4711 2 жыл бұрын
I Finaly found some cci 41 primers (midway USA) they are very good primers for accuracy but don't feed well in my progressive press and at 10.5 cents per primer, loss can get expensive in that progressive press....
@mossranchoutdoors7249
@mossranchoutdoors7249 3 жыл бұрын
That looks really dialed in👍👍👍
@indianaoutdoors748
@indianaoutdoors748 7 жыл бұрын
Great barrel! Keep up the good work!
@long-range-eliminator
@long-range-eliminator 10 ай бұрын
John, qùestion- reloaded for lil over 20 years, i have been told that reloading for the ar is completely diffrent. So reloading for 5.56 does it take special die to reload ? I have all experts say it will not cycle in ar. Any help be appreciated.. danny from Tennessee
@fockisilicocker
@fockisilicocker 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Johnny, love watching your process. If you would like to try some light weight .224 bullets may I recommend Nosler 53 gr. Varmaggedon? They seem to shoot under MOA out of my 18 inch 1/8 BCM. Also I have seen them for $11 for 100 bullets on Midway. Thanks for the great videos, keep em coming!
@mbburry4759
@mbburry4759 4 жыл бұрын
I was trying to see how bullet resistant white oak lumber was from other peoples experience. I had a slightly more than 2.5 inch thick white oak slab (as in the tree/lumber) catch one of those hornady slugs. Blew my mind, might need to retest with videos. This is cool to, just don't have anything to do with white oak- the tree.
@turrettooling1968
@turrettooling1968 9 ай бұрын
I've noticed your rifle is very accurate. Is that a heavy barrel profile?
@garryoldham8779
@garryoldham8779 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, makes me want to get a match barrel for my Stag 5.56.
@tfunkhou88
@tfunkhou88 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the 25.0gr charge of CFE223 was so smoky at the ejection port
@donturner5979
@donturner5979 7 жыл бұрын
How about doing some load test using Barnes .224 70 gr. TSX-BT in 16 " and 10.5" 1 in 7 twist barrels. I bought a PSA freedom 16" 1in 7 upper that they had on sale and i cannot get it to shoot worth a crap. Tried 3 different scopes, scope mounts and rings, powder types and charges, primers and casings but no good. Is it the bullet or the upper?????
@icuppu2
@icuppu2 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably the loose nut behind the trigger. Replace the nut with another one then compare the groupings. 1st. Check your ego at the entrance to the range. 2nd. Check your attitude because if you go in that they are going to shoot crappy as they have before then you will be right. 3rd. Write down all variables and crunch the numbers later that evening after a good dinner; also, have someone else look at your data. Accuracy is like the law when you go to court. How much can you afford?$$$ It sounds to me that you have a great learning project to learn from. Gun powder burn rate and amount, bullet weight and type, velocity can be extrapolated from bullet weight and grains of gunpowder around the published data. For example, on average, it takes 1 grain of gun-powder for every 10 grains of bullet to give it a muzzle velocity of 2,500 feet per second (fps) at the mid-range of bullets, or 62.5 grains. The interesting part is that as you go higher, you need less grains of gunpowder, but the reverse is also true. The objective is for you to find your barrel/bullet/powder curve then superimpose an accuracy curve to see which combination plays best together. You will be amazed on how much bullet RPM affects accuracy, so you need to incorporate your barrel twist rate, which is fixed on every barrel unless you change barrels. You might find that playing with your calculator and data is more fun than shooting into the wind because you will gain a better understanding. Take note of these videos and modify the data to fit your situation and one day that loose nut behind the trigger might disappear! I don't wish you good luck on your shooting because I consider that an insult, I believe that we make our luck by understanding, preparing and lots of practice. My rabbits foot brought me back from the Nam.
@thomashalley7258
@thomashalley7258 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe try different ammo or have the upper taken apart and rebuilt to see if there was something not measured right?
@fattmouth7715
@fattmouth7715 7 жыл бұрын
Crappy bullets definitely shoot crappy, however I do believe the heated barrel is a huge factor in your testing.
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 3 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded my PSA 18" 6.5 Grendel barrel to a Proof Research 20" match barrel now I'm about to upgrade my PSA 16" 223/556 barrel to probably this barrel. I finally got plenty of components in and been reloading like a fiend but not really getting what I want performance wise and buying a couple new barrels is cheaper building new guns...
@JohnnysReloadingBench
@JohnnysReloadingBench 3 жыл бұрын
I have four more years of experience with these WOA SPR barrels now and they are still my favorite. You're absolutely right that a good barrel is much cheaper than trying to wring accuracy out of a bad one. Good luck!
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnnysReloadingBench Thanks brother...
@grantelliott3581
@grantelliott3581 7 жыл бұрын
If those 55 gr vnx are anything like the hornady 55 gr flat base spire point, BL-C(2) worked well for me. That was the first bullet I tried in a bone stock savage axis and got about an inch at 100 yrds.
@darvinclement8404
@darvinclement8404 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 16 inch WOA with ambi barrel extension I used on my first build using a Stag lefty upper. I shoots lights out with everything from 50gr to 77gr bullets. Maybe I'll build a longer barred upper for a bench gun with a WOA tube!
@Justin-to4gq
@Justin-to4gq 5 жыл бұрын
i have a 20" krieger sdmr from compass lake will shoot crap pmc green tip 3/4 moa cant believe it.. wonder what ur ammo would do
@strykeranderson2417
@strykeranderson2417 7 жыл бұрын
Kick ass dude! This is a great starting point for me. The last of my parts for my SPR will be here this week. I'll be running a 16" Krieger and went light as possible where I could. How much does your setup weigh?
@turbonium96
@turbonium96 7 жыл бұрын
my load for 8208 is 22.7 with the 75 hpbt hornady.
@MugenAlt236
@MugenAlt236 7 жыл бұрын
Ive got a varmint build using their 20" 1:8 service match barrel. Excellent. Really favors the heavy stuff. Been using factory ammo out of it so I'm sure there is more to squeeze out of it.
@icuppu2
@icuppu2 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, liked and subscribed. Why do barrels come in even number inch lengths and why do twist rates come in integer numbered twists? What would have been great if if you had crony the shots, too that way we could calculate the RPM at the 100 yard range and deduce which weight bullet maintained a better gyroscopic stability to lead to better accuracy. Also, as others have commented about weighing the boxed bullets to remove the variable of weight inconsistency unless your reviewing the bullet from the manufacturer out of the box. When I win the Mega Lotto, I will support your channel, completely. The only problem is, I don't believe in gambling or luck. You are very entertaining, educational and inspiring.
@markkoehn4016
@markkoehn4016 7 жыл бұрын
I have great luck with hornady vmaxs out of my ARs.Try the 40gr vmax.
@GaryBlankenship96b40
@GaryBlankenship96b40 Жыл бұрын
Will it shoot without surpressor same point of impact??
@nicholdas
@nicholdas 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@arkangelsklucifer
@arkangelsklucifer 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Johnny? Do you have top 5 barrels for best sub-moa on 5.56 or 223 wylde 1-8 twist barrel from 16 to 18" that you have tested? I wonder who makes the best of all of them. I'm torn between this White Oak, JP, Vseven, Ballistic Advantage, Daniel Defense, proof research, others you would prefer, etc... This video on White Oak Armament seems like #2 or 1 accuracy test you had conducted. Thank you for your time, if you ever see this or you have an upcoming video.
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