Loading 300 Blk - ep 20 - Subsonic Bullet Testing Intro

[@maxchalice5625]

Man around 17 minutes give you a good representation of pre-covid prices on bullets.

[@jakeeames725]

6 years late but appreciate all the time and work you put into these! priceless info here

[@billyharkey2862]

It really is. I have Johnny to thank for ALL of my first load workups. I just need to DOWNLOAD all of his videos and keep them put away in the event that one day they're no longer available. Doing the lords work here lol

[@agrippa2k469]

NINETEEN DIFFERENT BULLETS!!! You sir are an inspiration!

[@fckurvtc]

I am very excited to follow this series. Hopefully some manufactures will reach out to you with some donations to contribute to the cause. You have definitely invested a lot of time and money into gaining and sharing knowledge. I am certainly appreciative!!

[@DMIINC2013]

+fckurvtc I agree.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+fckurvtc Donations of that sort would probably come with demands I'm not willing to meet. I'm shocked at how much this channel continues to grow, so I imagine it's only a matter of time before I'm asked to review something. I'm certainly not going to go out begging, which I think is what a lot of product reviewers do. I like being able to give my unfiltered opinion without some vendor bitching at me about a bad review. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. I promise to be up front about it and let everyone know where stuff comes from. Thanks for watching! I'm pretty excited about this series too.

[@caveman8200]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench whats the lowest charge you would put in a 300blk using lil gun gun powder I would like to go 950fps.

[@timreap3r286]

Seeing this six years later means I know what I'm doing with my day.

[@briancowan4318]

Thanks for the series. I've had nothing but trouble with my loads of H110 powder driving 147gr bullets. Then you mentioned the carbine length gas system, and everything clicked. Now to break them down and turn the powder into fertilizer. I'll wait for the 147gr videos, but watch in sequence. Thanks again!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Thanks for watching! Carbine gas is tough, but there ARE definitely some options for you. After you catch up on the later videos let me know if you've got any questions. Start looking for some Accurate 1680! It's a carbine gas gun's friend. Miles better than anything else. Good luck.

[@glen4130]

I'm taking notes as fast as I can. Thanks for testing all these expensive bullets.

[@jameys18]

Your videos are awesome and super informative. Thanks so much for taking the time to share such awesome knowledge with others. it's very appreciated.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Thanks for watching!

[@ramza781]

Quiet a bit of collection you got there!!

[@BoltActionReloading]

I can't wait to see more data. You sir are the hickok45 of the reloading world. I watch your subscriber count rise and have no doubt that for those of us who are interested in reloading re-watch these to make sure we got all the info we could. Couple things to mention. I have had just as much luck with accurate 5744 as 1680. It is $10 a pound more expensive, but I seem to find it more regularly than 1680. I don't blame you for omitting it but it does work well if you can find it. The secret for me to get my Hornady 220 gr RN interlocks to feed well was a OAL of 2.0 even, anything longer jams constantly. I am interested if your heavier bullets stabilize in your 1:8 barrels. I had some luck with the 225 gr hornady match and the 208 gr Amax but the 220 gr Nosler CC and 220gr SMK crapped the bed.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+moparmadman Thanks! I will be on the lookout for Accurate 5744. I've seen it on the burn rate chart right next to 1680 and always wondered about it. I'll pick up a pound at the first opportunity. I completely forgot to mention twist rate in this video. I figured the 220's would be okay but the 240 might have issues, but now you've got me worried. Very interesting that you had some issues. Was it full blown keyholing or just bad groups from minor instability?

[@BoltActionReloading]

+Johnny's Reloading Bench Full blown key holing at 30 ft, almost completely sideways. I couldn't believe it. I can send you a pic of my last range session with the 220 SMKs, its bad. Do your due diligence and don't ruin your suppressor. Honestly, I was so fed up I built a whole new upper. 10.5" 1:7 twist and it is night and day difference. I like the 8.5: 1:8, and can't wait to see the subsonic load data for the 147 gr. Are you using pulled bullets for the 147's or are they new? That might be the only subs I choose to run in the 8.5" barrel. I started collecting velocity data and my loads between barrels is not significantly different in the subsonic range. I can't wait to see more. I have heard rumors that the suppressor will add velocity. I hope you get some comparison data with and without it.

[@troywhitney4122]

Found something that work’s amazing in 300 blackout. It’s hornady sub-x 175 at 1650 fps with h110 14.5 cci 450 with can on they are reasonably quiet and on pigs and deer has been crazy destructive on international

[@sida9439]

is there a final episode where the test of all subsonic bullets are presented?

[@timreap3r286]

My first day learning to reload. Also first 300 blk out rifle.

[@mr.nobody6457]

Johnny: How did the 220 gr Nosler Custom Competition do? I cant find the video with those loads. Thank you and greetings from Norway!

[@Sam-sv4vk]

What a great channel even an 8 year old vid perfect

[@glen4130]

I do love a long video.

[@gestalt3]

When you get to the 168grn a-max, if you have it, try Blue Dot. I load 168 Hornady BTHP match bullets at 6.9grns of Blue dot out of a bolt gun with great accuracy...I would be curious to see how it goes out of an AR.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I'm picking up Blue Dot and 2400 for use in 257 Mag, and I've been wondering whether they'd run my 300 Blackout. Everything I've read says they won't, but I'm learning that some of what I read about 300 blk doesn't match my experience. I will be trying both of these powders eventually. I'll probably put them into a separate video and make a little test out of it with different bullet weights.

[@pauloticks]

Sir have you given up on the coated projectiles? Did you notice any leading in your barrel or can? Thank you very much for your great videos!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+pauloticks I definitely haven't given up! I just got really frustrated by the chamber leading issues and decided to take a break and focus on jacketed bullets for a while. I'm still learning a lot about 300 blk, and I'm hoping that the knowledge I gain with the jacketed bullets will translate over to the coated lead bullets. I think it's clear that I'm doing something wrong. Seating depth, crimp, or something else maybe. As soon as this series is over I will be trying it all again. I'm determined to get it right eventually! I never saw any significant barrel leading...it was just that scraped lead building up at the front of the chamber.

[@pauloticks]

+Johnny's Reloading Bench Thank you Sir! I am excited to see your results!

[@bassetthound2008]

Finally loaded my first rifle rounds a few weeks ago. You must have spend a fortune on the bullets. Have you ever thought about putting ads on the videos? I wouldn't mind watching a 30 second advertisement at the beginning of the video if it supports the channel. I think I speak for a few people at least. Keep up the good work on the videos.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+bassetthound2008 Congrats on the first rifle rounds! I guess you didn't blow your face off, which is nice. I monetized the channel about a week or two ago, which means I'll start getting a cut of the youtube ads. I assume that means there's more of them shown as well. Glad to hear you didn't notice! I was, and still am, worried that it will be annoying. At the size the channel is now it's only a couple bucks each day, but as the channel grows over time (hopefully) maybe it will be enough to help pay for some bullets. I did indeed drop some serious money on bullets, but it's alright. I'm well fed, the mortgage is getting paid, and I don't have a wife to nag me about it. :)

[@bassetthound2008]

+Johnny's Reloading Bench I fired 5 of them 2 weekends ago. They were a 150 gr Hornady SST on top of 48 gr of IMR 4064 for .30-06. They went bang but I know I over paid for the bullets. $37 for 100 but they were my first rifle rounds and I don't mind that at first. Seeing as I'm only 19 in college I can deal with it for now until I get some better income. One thing I noticed though is that the inside of the case was caked with carbon as compared to factory ammo. Is IMR 4064 a dirtier powder, and if so what is a cleaner burning powder for .30-06?

[@jamaljackson9879]

Johnny's Reloading Bench hey Johnny! Huge fan. Thank you so much for all your amazing work! You are shooting 100yrds correct?

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench Sir, 1st off, thank you for all the wisdom you share. 2nd, there's no way in hell that I can do what your doing. My short attention span & lack of follow through would leave me with a bunch of bullet making material and I would just go back to factory loads. I wish they (the ammo manufacturers) would make rounds specific for barrel sizes and weight of bullets. Maybe they do, I'm just not well versed with ammo . Thx for what you do.

[@dragonslk616]

Hi Sir. Have you had any success with Rainier 180gr subsonic in either FN or HP? I can never get this projectile to ever chamber right and get any kind of accuracy from it. I hope you can shine a light on this projectile.

[@MrBuckshot18]

I used the 296 recipe in the Hornady 9th edition book on page 386. using the 225 gr. I am getting reliable cycling and a good group but the velocity is is horrible at 25 yards my rounds are traveling 289 fps out of a 8.5" inch barrel.

[@sedireloading1204]

Johny you da man

[@dude26999]

Patiently waiting for the next episode already. This series is better than Breaking Bad

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+dude26999 The 208gr Hornady ELD video will be up tomorrow. These things take forever to encode and upload.

[@dude26999]

Your videos are saving me countless time and money. You make it look so easy.

[@michaelmcclelland1141]

I use control chaos in my 6.8spc AR and it is awesome

[@RemanentSphere]

So subsonic is based off a heavier and slower projectile correct? What about a load to make black tip loads into subsonic ammo? Would you even be able to do it? Id love to see a ballistics test of it For say a .300aac-blk & .308. I dont want to try it but its always made me wonder.

[@BackwardTravisty]

This series is better than Starwars! I like the long episodes. You are doing the most in the reloading genre. You are a fucking boss! I am ultra curious about Win296 suppressed. I couldn't get my unsuppressed 8.5" Premium and 10" Performance Ballistic Advantage barrels firing 220 SMK to lock back with charges up to and just slightly exceeding 9.9 grains. No go! I'm also curious about 147gr subsonic. GO FOR IT! I'm saving up for a SilencerCo Omega 9k AND then will have to wait for the glacial like Form 1 to come back. We're talking Fall 2016 IF I'm lucky! I feel what you're saying rolling your own vs just buying the full up commercial version. Sig Sauer makes a 20 rnd box of 9mm 124gr VCrown rounds for $18. Midway sells Sierra Vcrowns in 100 rnd boxes for WAY cheaper. I also got a fee boxes of Starline nickle casing so I basically duplicate Sig's stuff for less money! I like to find a commercial load, and then copy it and make it better. Keep up the great videos! I'm looking forward to a slew your outstanding experimentation.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+RETiredGM Thanks for watching! I'll be sure to use Win 296 on the 220 SMK video. I think that Omega 9k will be a good choice. If I were buying today it would probably be a Hybrid or Omega 9k so I could use it with pistol as well. Suppressed shooting is even better than I'd imagined! I can go out and shoot all day without worry that I'm driving the neighbors crazy.

[@RonzRocketz]

Weirdly, there's plenty of 1680 here in Honolulu. Good luck taking it back with you in your check in luggage. Varget and 4895 seems to be higher priced here. I got Win748 but haven't seen Win296.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Hodgdon H110 is the same as W296, so make sure you look for it as well. Glad to hear you've got plenty of 1680, though! Having a good supply of 1680 makes 300 blk reloading pretty easy, to be honest. That stuff kicks butt.

[@RonzRocketz]

Yep, plenty of H110.

[@luisceja8121]

Johnny's Reloading Bench is

[@luisceja8121]

Johnny's Reloading Bench Men I have a lot questions I'm trying to rip look at your 300 blackout I just happen to have the same set up you have the suppressor and 8 inch barrel SBR I have 5 pounds of trail boss that I want to play with my 308 and wanted to pick your brain would you mind getting back to me or see what anybody's doing can't find a whole lot of information I'm planning on loading hornady he SST 190 grain and hornady match 225 grain

[@vladmirputin7139]

Noe 240 grain cast with a gas check and you're good to go. No stabilization issues and no mag length issue.

[@TroyPosey]

My best load so far for my .300 BLK uses Berger 210 VLD's with 300-MP powder, CCI 400's, in cut & formed WCC 5.56 brass. Shoots about 3/4" to 1" groups @ 100 yards (maybe slightly better) from my 16" Rainier Arms 1:8.5" twist barrel (built it LONG before 1:7 became standard). Shoots ~1.5" groups with Berry's 220gr .300 BLK bullets. Not the best groups, but for plinking ammo it's not terrible. And it's accurate enough to hit the 10" gong at 200 pretty regularly. Videos on my channel, if yall want to check them out. 👍🏼

[@avalon-media]

Hi Guys. I own a 7,5" Barreled AR 15 in .300 Blackout and factory ammo seems to burn long after the bullet has left the barrel, giving hell to the suppressor. Have you ever tried loading with a faster burning powder so the burnout prior the bullet leaving the barrel? Like Lovex D037.1, Accurate No 7 or VV N350?

[@artichoke890]

can you suggest a powder for a 16 inch Bolt action. Ruger ranch 1in7 twist? looking at 208 grain a-max subsonic suppressed and unsuppressed.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I don't have any bolt action experience with 300 BLK. Maybe a viewer will see your question and chime in. I do know that your powder options are MUCH wider. Everything I'm using for the AR's would work for you. I've also seen people talk about using Unique, 2400, and other slower pistol powders in that area of the burn rate chart. You have lots of options!

[@zarosathemaverick]

lil gun is a great powder for .300 blk

[@crashtke]

Ha! 19 bullets. Now in current atmosphere it is whatever you can find, lol!

[@jasonthomas2940]

Hey great video man, I used the maker bullets 200 gr expanding bullets with good results and they are $42 for a box of 50

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+Jason Thomas Thanks for the tip. I just ordered two boxes. This is now a 20 bullet series!

[@jasonthomas2940]

+Johnny's Reloading Bench yeah I only tested 3 bullets and 2 powders lol

[@agrippa2k469]

+Jason Thomas Yea those Maker bullets are nice. I got loaded rounds from AR15.com (125 & 200 grain), but I wanted some 150s. If I can get them to cycle just a little faster than subsonic, I gotta shoot some gel (or water melons - it is almost summer).

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

+Jason Thomas That's because you're not insane. I've got some screws loose.

[@jasonthomas2940]

+Johnny's Reloading Bench lol no you just do a better job and have more patience then I do

[@metaller_alex]

Why did you say 3 slower powders are better then 3 faster ones ? From my knowledge slower powders allows to achieve max velocity in supersonic loads. For subsonic slower and faster powders will work but faster powders produces less gas pressure at muzzle which makes quieter shot. And quieter shot is why we use subsonic, right ?

[@sabkdb]

Which video has the 180 gn bullets?

[@BooBooJonez]

Have you any experience with CFE~BLK with 300 AAC Blackout?

[@mikemcniel3086]

excellent video...btw on covering your rifles you didn't talk about your bipod...you obviously like it because you have the same one on both

[@iHateQwest]

Gg&g

[@tjarmand]

my local gun shop has like 10 pounds of that 1680 and I live in southern Indiana not far from u id say..

[@MrTMaciejewski]

These videos are great! Did you ever make to to the 220 pro hunters?

[@jnljnl8485]

Im surprised projectiles for 30 30 are not used for 300 blk. The large flat point does its damage even if it dont expand.

[@donaldledbetter9684]

I loaded several 150 grain round nose for my 300 BLK, and they are awesome. One inch to 1-1/4” group at 50 yards with open sights.

[@mnbytestube]

Does he load the 200gr ELD X? I see the box in this video. I have these and I'm looking for that video.

[@buglechaser]

start at 11:30 he explains

[@rutrose2000]

3:30 ZING!!!!!!!! You ain't lying.

[@croe5357]

So for those guys out there that want an SBR, but they cheap out on the tax stamp, and make an AR "pistol". Does that make shooting brass bullets through them illegal?

[@slevinkelevra8696]

I have a problem to shop these powder in my country, i have possibility to shop a vhitavuori n110 or n120 how do you thinck is better for 110gr and 220gr subsonic?? i have 14" barrel and i thinck n120 is much similar to h110 or 296!!

[@markalex3866]

Where is episode 21?????

[@julikocaribe1982]

For this 16" carbine gas lenght a Lighter BCG and Buffer spring will help to cilcle.

[@otetechie]

There are two ways to regulate an AR, gas and mass. You can mess with the buffer system and improve reliability.