Joint Compound vs Spackle!

They may seem similar, but the difference is pretty big IMO.
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[@JMaNRegZ]

You are an excellent teacher, and a kind-hearted human being, your friends, family, and viewers are lucky to have you!

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Thank you! 😃

[@davidguymon1673]

@@vancouvercarpenter , and yes, my mind did indeed go there. 🤣🤣

[@chrismoore8231]

With the colder temperatures in Canada I would think shrinkage is a normal occurrence. .

[@IAmTheDerg]

Buh-dum-tsssss

[@weedfreer]

#TrueStory

[@garychandler4296]

That's what SHE said!

[@KevinsDisobedience]

Also shrinks as it ages 😶

[@Ilove_me12919]

Are we talking about mud still?

[@haciendadad]

This has the be one of the best channels for learning this kind of content! Great teacher, good tips, the length of the videos are just the right length, and he has a good sense of humor. I had to tell my wife, "I bet his wife was behind the camera" at 2:50s we both laughed.

[@Trabbas]

Your content is so ridiculously helpful, man. I can't count the number of times I've needed to refer to your channel for something. Thank you.

[@robingourde9366]

Drydex is for small holes and dents. Mud is for taping. Cost is the difference. Mud has to be sealed before painting. Drydex doesn't. It sands just as easy. And it dries faster. When the sealer coat goes on, the mud is put away. It's that simple. I would use Drydex for small mud & tape hole patches, to patch repair holes in gyproc. It dries faster and can be top coated after final sanding

[@DannyDGAF420]

I keep finding myself back on your channel over others. Very informative and made in a great way that doesn't make me wanna skip portions of the video. Keep up the awesome work!

[@HotspotsSoutheast]

That’s why I use the pink stuff as a final finish coat. It goes on totally smooth and sands easy. If you put it on right there’s virtually nothing to sand. And as you say after you paint the first coat and see all the defects its the perfect fix for that. Especially if you are remodeling a room and just patched a dozen nail holes. There are always dents and divots. With the pink stuff I can take a beat up old wall and make it look new again.

[@curtjeziorski350]

I do the same. I do alot of drywall repair( I'm a painter!). And found that spackle works best for pock holes when drywallers screw me! It works great

[@curtjeziorski350]

And you are correct about the sanding. I never sand it. I just pull it tight

[@ronilda2231]

Can you put tape with the pink one?

[@billm.8220]

Always appreciate the explanations on using different products for different situations. They say the devil is in the details. That’s why I keep coming back to these videos. Do it right the first time & save money at the same time.

[@motoman1997]

Thank you for so much excellent advice. Thanks to your suggestions I've quickly "graduated" from using smaller taping knifes to 14 inch trowel and hawk, this has made my kitchen and partial basement renovation so much easier and actually fun.

[@JeffWok]

Really good video Ben. I've been watching you for well over a year and just refinished a bathroom. It's these final little finishing touches that really make the job seem WOW at the end. I'm DIY and it wasn't my first rodeo but I still didn't realize to use spackle instead of just mud for these. Core Viewer! Keep up the great work.

[@jamesreed7358]

Another very clear well spoken instructional video with great camera work. Thankyou !

[@jamesnettleton68]

You can add PVA to dry wall ready mix mud. Yes it works for filling defects in walls with out pulling out.Easy to sand, nicer to work with, than spackle.

[@JRFarmercom]

I like the 3M patch plus primer product instead of spackle for small repairs. It definitely paints nicely.

[@jacobellis89]

This. 3m's patch is the best on the market for interior. MD ready patch is my go to for exterior

[@zackerydupuis6724]

very useful and helpful information and video are so entertaining, keep up the good work Ben you always do a good job.

[@punchout2418]

Love this channel. I didn't hear anything I didn't already know in this video. I just wanted watch Mr relatable Ben. He's gotta be the nicest most relatable tradesman on KZbin. Stay golden ponyboy :)

[@chg6411]

Dude, I have always loved your skate content, and I listened to your nine club episode just recently. I needed to sparkle the wall, and was checking some clips and found your video. This was very helpful.

[@Trophybearer]

You’re always there when I need you! Thanks for your videos!

[@keithglynn9237]

....just a little note to add...if you are uncomfortable or not quick enough getting the patch in place before the glue cools off, just fit the patch in the hole, drill some small holes along the seam, and you can press the hot glue gun tip in the holes and squeeze the glue into the seam. This works good too. If you get any glue on the surface to be painted you can usually pick it off with your fingers or you can lightly sand it off.

[@mrslkungpowchikn1206]

Hey I love your videos and you’ve coached me through some late nights on my own while husband sleeping (first time drywaller here! I wanted to fix the drywall hubby added more of a mess too due to water loss from leaking water heaters (2 were connected together because house used to be a duplex), impacting both bathrooms/ laundry room, our daughters room and our family room! Hubby was trying to do a “fast job” since he thinks we are going to tear current house down in a year to rebuild. Regardless, I just couldn’t handle looking at a “pregnant looking” wall w lots of grid and multiple seams showing through everyday while I do the family’s laundry everyday!). 😎 And it looks SO much better! 🤗 💃🏻 💙🤍 But I did make unfortunately a big dusty mess when I had a sand a lot of it (I mean, it was REALLY bad!!). I’m happy with the improvements and especially since texturing and painting with “Littlr Boy Blue” Sherwin Williams” paint in semi gloss. I mean I was a little OCD about it but that was also because the SW paint guy told me that the gloss was “going to highlight EVERY imperfection”……😬😱 (and, I’m an “ex manufacturing DEFECT engineer” from high tech semiconductor of about 7 yrs before I became full time mom / part time renovator! 😂 So I can’t HELP but totally analysis every different groove and then think deeply about how it became that way to begin with, for “future reference” 🤣 🤓). Anyway you were my KZbin Angel for quite a few nights and there was something so calming about you I felt I could just give it try. And I did and since, I even used what I learned to improve another area too that we were working on and was pretty darn happy with it….esp since I accidentally got 15 min compound!!! whoops! So THANKYOU!!!! ❤️ 💙🤍 Wish you were Vancouver WA….which is where we live I would be like your shakedown and free laborer just so I could learn like that other carpenter you had on for an episode. That’s how I knew “for sure” I was watching someone who was indeed skilled and knew what they were doing enough for a veteran to learn new techniques also! I’d love to see some videos of maybe your kids or wife helping too because I want to teach my kids theses skills and I love how you have this way of making this stuff FUN (and funny!): it’s very non-intimidating this way for people like me and we really appreciate it. Also last thing rgd the subject at hand: When doing small holes are you adding texture also? If so what is your technique in doing so? Do you prime the repair, then texture (abs using what?), prime again, then do the paint on top (if size of the hole or repair would demand it in your opinion?)? I’ve read that is is ideal to prime mud before texture then texture, and prime again - all to ensure more even absorbtion of whatever you are adding on. I find it’s not that inconvenient for me to do and I’d rather have it be done the best to my ability I can vs it come out looking goofy simply because I was too lazy to add one layer of paint (of several anyway!). What are your thoughts on that? Would you also be willing to do a video where you are doing the texturizing also? Want to see your techniques and how it might change depending on size. You seem like a natural at this and for teaching. Ps you’d be the best wood shop teacher ever (if any schools still doing that! I’ve found few are. I actually almost got a job as an assistant to the one school I know who DOES teach shop - ironically he was my ex boss when I was in engineering and he hired me out of college. He since has “retired” and now teaching MS and HS “makers space” shop classes. Unfortunately I was the second runner up per the principal so I didn’t get the job, so I’m just sticking to learning and doing here at home and also on our 4 plex we own next to our house. My dad was a civil engineer and builder but unfortunately died at 45 when i was 10 otherwise I’d definitely be bugging him about all of this! But somehow I feel like maybe he is still watching over me and controlling my KZbin (to help me find great teachers like you!). Not that U wanted to know all of this or anything but want you to know your work is apreciated (but would love to see more videos with kids helping out and maybe you can inspire a younger audience as well!). I’d say kids today (and people in general) definitely need more real world teaching and skills they can use and build their confidence in their own abilities to actually attempt to fix or build something themselves vs always relying on someone else.

[@FrancoDFernando]

oh nice...I use the same method in filling up little holes and dings. I just came up with it through trial and error and also found that it provides the best finish. This is especially critical when filling in holes/dings on a newly laid skim coat. Because I found that whenever I tried to press the compound into the hole, I run the risk of compressing the mud. And when I try to sand after, the compressed mud will standout from the surrounding mud

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Yup. That's exactly what happens.

[@Lakanen263]

This popped up at a good time I’m going to be painting my bathroom and I have some stuff to fix before I paint. Thanks for the information.

[@ThingsIdRatherBeDoing]

The first big patch job I did was my kitchen ceiling. It was horrible. I swore off ever using the pink stuff. I still need to redo everything. I wonder if I was really using spackle!

[@ItchyKneeSon]

Maybe the moisture content (added) in(to) drywall mud can be likened to milk in your cereal? You're really in it for the cereal and you only need enough milk to wet the flakes. Too much just gets in the way and forces you to drink that sloppy concoction when all the flakes are gone.

[@madcowusa4277]

Just replaced an exterior window sill where some muppet homeowner had used drywall mud to repair and build up severely rotted wood and then painted over. Made demo a breeze with chunks of rotted wood and drywall mud covered in black mold coming off by hand. Western WA coast with 80" of rain/year.

[@Ratlins9]

Thanks Ben, never knew the difference until now.

[@huejanus5505]

When filling little defects like that I often use dap dynaflex. It doesn’t need to be primed to avoid having that hazy look after a topcoat. It’s hard to find all the little defects you patched when the patch and walls are white.

[@steveguminy8792]

I am a professional painter and I hate drydex. I always use drywall mud and scim it twice if needed.

[@KamfaKing]

ditto

[@craigcode7103]

Same here, plus I can tint my mud so I can see patches on a primed wall or ceiling.

[@AMByram]

God bless the drywall finisher who wears black shirts to work.

[@billybike57]

“It shrinks?” Love the Seinfeld reference 😂

[@sprainedankle8547]

Thank you Ben. You are a big role model to me. I am trying to get my life together but it can be hard sometimes.

[@allcaps2888]

minus the smallest dings I've learned to avoid spakle. Rarely am I happy with the finish. It stands out

[@NickRgibbs]

I think the phrase you are looking for is solids by volume or solids by weight. I couldn't find either measurement for drywall mud, but Dap DryDex is 77% solids by weight. Most high quality latex paints are 30-35% so I'd guess all purpose drywall mud is about half way in between, around 55-60%.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Yup. Solids.

[@LeverPhile]

This really helps me understand the difference between the two. Thanks!

[@adas7614]

I used quickset for deficiencies on my last project and it turned out well. I’m planning on doing the same on a big ceiling I’m doing next. Hopefully it turns out as well

[@wallacenaaz5132]

If you dont wait for paint to cure, The drydex sometimes absorbs the paints moisture and then when you cone back to sand it it feels like rubber and you have heck of a time tryna sand it off.

[@chriscolameco6850]

Solids. The word is solids

[@grassrj]

Thanks! I’ve been wondering this for years

[@ToolTalkCanada]

I was just thinking about this today and wondering whether I should buy some spackle when I have half a bucket of drywall mud. Now I have the answer. Thanks!

[@lornehampel1330]

Great video!

[@davidguymon1673]

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of pull outs either. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@vuyolwethusabani3352]

This is a great video so simple and descriptive 🙌🏽💯💯

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Thank you!

[@R900DZ]

Great info, been wondering about this for a long time

[@allanwind295]

The law of spackle is that it's always dried out when opening the container the 2nd time. So I now buy the smallest size and assume that I don't have any on hand.

[@elle7037]

I saw a video address this issue and all it took was a couple drops of water on top before closing it up. And ofc a bit of mixing upon opening next.

[@allanwind295]

@@elle7037 Are you sure that wasn't joint compound?

[@skim193]

@@allanwind295 it was a small spackle container like the drydex a drizzle of water, saran/plastic wrap the top and use the lid over the wrap

[@richardstewart4996]

Why would you use pink spackle on a white wall when you could use white spackle? I don't get it!

[@KamfaKing]

I hate Drydex, fine for a few holes here & there, but not worth a bucket of warm spit when repairing a suite or home full of holes, nicks, gouges, etc. Use a 6-8" knife, and a pail of CGC Red-Filler all purpose drywall compound. Yes, you do need to sand & skim more than once for more serious damage, but the sanding is easy. Coat with primer, top coat with finish paint, and you are ready for the finish coat. I also do this for a living, for a few decades.

[@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025]

good video, as always - get that man a Puppers!

[@conradcoolerfiend]

spackle is basically a pre-mixed quickset

[@eroberegan]

I wish I would have watched this when I was prepping my walls...

[@exrezcnm]

I have a friend who insists on using spackle the pink stuff for taping his joints. He likes it but I would be afraid to follow his recommendations to do likewise.

[@cuatc30]

Only problem with pink spackle is that it will flash when painted on so you need to prime over it.

[@vancouvercarpenter]

I agree. But so many people believe the false advertising.

[@TH-nc1gj]

I miss your skate videos, so I’ll watch these ones instead

[@c.davidcook3565]

I was in the pool!

[@valeriek5020]

And then there is hot mud with all the different work times..............that is the same as dry wall mud?. You threw in Dyna Patch and I assume that is dry wall mud and you recommend using it for nail holes in trim not the pink stuff. I have prepared all my walls with the pink stuff, bought all new trim..............so I am hoping that you have guided me well. Thank you.

[@chillnndc]

I am definitely a spackle man. Shrinkage??...I was thinking that way until u said something....it's u🤣🤣🤣

[@MysticalMe131]

Awesome video. Thanks

[@Donnamg100]

Can you use spackle to repair torn drywall paper (after you have primed the spot)?

[@corbettwoodruff4774]

Water Putty rocks!

[@tomTom-lb5cu]

He said shrinkage

[@davidzetterberg6614]

So not video related. I have to mud and tape around exposed ceiling joists. What is the proper method.

[@JessicaT-qp9uv]

Wall slip is wall slop😊

[@stevethomas211]

Can you use Spackle for other things? Would it work on wood? to sand the surface smooth? Wood putty I have the same problem, when I put it on. Maybe I am doing it wrong.

[@Shagy16]

Could you do a video of painting trim and base board?

[@evabarcant452]

Which one is considered to be more “strong” ? If it were you were going more 3d with it (for a textured art piece)

[@ronilda2231]

Can I tape the drywall with Drytex?or Spackle

[@bosshova23]

😂😂😂 Shrinkage

[@derekt9671]

How would I patch up a diagonal cut in the wall with the two sides being offset?

[@terencemerritt]

I always hate when pulling it out of the hole and she mentions the shrinkage 😂

[@L.M.6810]

Great Video's Ben!, I've watched them all. I'm currently starting my first drywall and mudding job, my garage..Lol. Being a newbie, I have some uneven butt joints, and half inch gaps, and a few extra holes in drywall,when I was looking for studs when I hung the drywall. I bought a bucket of lite all purpose and started mudding last night. This morning I found a lot of shrinkage and cracks, can I let dry and just put another coat over top of the cracks?, how long do I let dry before putting second coat on?, 24 hours?. Also with all these extra screw holes, do I cut the paper pulls off with an olfa knife from when I removed the screw?. One last question, when doing the unevn butt joints do I continue to feather out until flat before I put the tape on?....again great video's Ben keep them coming Read more

[@Sharkfan]

clean those knives !

[@AishaStitt]

I have a question. I have dime size holes in my wall as well as drywall paper that is ripped. I watched the drywall paper repair video and saw that you used drywall mud for the paper repair. Silly question is can spackle be used to repair drywall paper similar to mudd?

[@alexmorales5443]

Good information 👍 Good videos 📹

[@stylicho]

There's never an explanation on what kind of paint either can be put on in drywall mud videos on the internet. Will both work on flat paint and semi gloss or do you have to sand first?

[@ItchyKneeSon]

If you have a large area, you can use a drywall primer before paint. Imperfections in the drywall/finishing work show much more with glossy paint. My dad's got 40+ years in drywall (framing-to-finishing) and always urges people to use flat/matte paint. (I wonder if that's to cover up mistakes? lol) If you pay attention when you're in buildings and houses, you'll see PLENTY of imperfections. Most guys don't think that last 15-20% to get the job flawless is worth it. A lot of people will point out the 1 spot that was missed and won't let it go until it's fixed. So it goes... You can call up a local painter and ask how he does it.

[@stylicho]

@@ItchyKneeSon I mean already painted drywall and then adding mud. Will mud adhere to flat paint better than semi gloss etc?

[@thecurlymonster]

Can you link to your patreon? Can’t seem to find you on there...

[@vancouvercarpenter]

www.patreon.com/user?u=10996150&fan_landing=true I hope you find something worthwhile there :)

[@J_D_B4379]

I use Sheetrock 20 or 45 for everything from small holes or gouges to patching holes and seems with tape. Is this not not recommended?

[@yuumsta]

So are you a Canucks fan?

[@MixingGBP]

Hello VC. I have a door frame leading to my garage that the builder really hosed up. It literally looks like a dog chewed up the trim on the door jamb and the $)&(#*#)@@ builder just painted over it, leaving tons of divots and cracks in the wood. How would you repair this? With wood filler? Would you remove the paint first?

[@tpowfjb]

I'd just replace the trim. Spackle will stick okay but if it's as bad as it sounds...

[@clarksimmerman5968]

Thanks. That clarified it for me. Question: what do I use around the shower where the water has Deteriorated the drywall a bit? Thanks for all the great info

[@GailyFix]

Be careful with water damage. If that area is in a splash zone or high moisture zone, you need to protect your drywall by tanking it with stuff like RedGard, or even better - use something waterproof like tile backer instead of drywall. It may be wiser to extend your tiled area a bit. If water could be a recurring issue, you need to address the root cause first, otherwise it will come back (and there could be worse damage hidden under the drywall). If it's on the ceiling, look into better ventilation to get rid of the extra moisture that is causing damage.

[@clarksimmerman5968]

@@GailyFix Good advice! Thanks!

[@sttroner]

WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING... IT WAS A COLD DAY!... OF COURSE THERE WAS SHRINKAGE!!! 😂😂😂

[@weldabar]

So when there's shrinkage, you come back the next day for a second round?

[@vancouvercarpenter]

Yup

[@cerrudmanuel]

Good afternoon

[@ibarskiy]

What do you think about 45 minute mud mixed thick for repairs?

[@huberthandypanda3781]

It works. But you have to apply another coat of regular drywall mud to finish it. This is usually a practice for repairing damaged drywall by professionals.

[@ibarskiy]

@@huberthandypanda3781 does it still flash through primer otherwise?

[@huberthandypanda3781]

@@ibarskiy The primer acts as a sealer mainly, preventing water in the paint from seeping through. It's the paint that covers up repaired surfaces.

[@ibarskiy]

@@huberthandypanda3781 correct. But the primer also texturizes a bit. The complaint with hot mud often is it doesn’t sand the same as regular - which yeah sure. But for small repairs with the primer on - why would you put a skin coat of regular mud on top is the question. Can you still see the difference in texture after painting? That’s what I’m asking

[@notsonic]

3:16 aggregate

[@maggiesmakeuptv]

I’m currently finishing my garage walls (just drywall and taped/muded joints), and I have a bunch of little nail holes left over from where cabinets were removed. Would it be best to use the spackle to fill those and then prime and paint the drywall? Or do a broader cover with drywall compound, then prime and then spackle anything left over and then paint?

[@2-old-Forthischet]

A fan of George Costanza? 🤣

[@vancouvercarpenter]

😂

[@Takeitlightly6]

Isnt this called putty?

[@TopViewFar]

1st!✌️

[@FartSmucker]

*Butt-Head laugh* heuh...shrinkage

[@garychandler4296]

Two tricks : if you pull the Drydex straight, it digs some out, but if you slice the knife sideways a bit, it leaves the hole fuller, not always requiring a second coat. As you work, the tub is losing moisture, so before capping it, pour it full of water, and dump the water out before capping, and it will be perfectly workable next use.

[@mikeytee6821]

Two nice simple, yet good, tips I'll use in the future. I'm a regular (non-professional) Drydex user! Thanks!

[@michaelplays2449]

Great video, thanks

[@rolly1383]

Can you do a video on what to do about truss uplift? I have a problem with it every winter.

[@kevinlogozzo3952]

Shrinkage. 🤣 “I was in the pool!!”

[@Mrbriancav19]

@2:55 LMAO

[@katabolik]

Love your videos, super informative! I have some plaster crown moulding with some hairline (and some bigger...) cracks that I would like to patch up and paint over. Would DryDex be the recommended material for repairing plaster cracks? Do I need to carve out the hairline cracks to get more DryDex material actually inside to fill up the crack? Thanks!

[@chrisburns5691]

one mistake i've seen and done myself, is attempting to fix a finished drywall surface- new board or repair, with the drydex, prior to priming. It doesn't sand as easily as drywall mud, so you can end up with a weird irregular surface where you touch up with drydex over mud, and then sand. I do the same, sand out the mud, prime, have a look with some good lighting, do any little touch ups with drydex prior to top coats.

[@jacobdudzik2260]

This guy could be Steve-O's twin brother.

[@regibson23]

Yeah I don't even bother with spackle anymore because you have to build it up anyway.

[@tyroneclarke1666]

Thank you for the video Ben. Very good explanation. Cheers 🇦🇺

[@turbotrana]

I don't like to use premixed filler. The Aussie brands tend to swell a tiny bit when the first coat goes on and remains a visible repair to the trained eye. I like to use a dry powder filler (I like the Parfix brand from Bunning) that when mixed goes off like cement. I dab those little dings with my finger.

[@munchieschicken5074]

This carpenter does more drywall patching and painting than anyone else :)

[@user-vk1br5kq7o]

Can I use spackle as joint compound when adding a piece of drywall to a hole

[@Chris.Rhodes]

My question is, I'm a service tech, I do a lot of small repairs. Nobody has shown a good informational video on how to bring egg shell texture back, I can walk in after 2 coats of paint, and tell exactly where the super flat repairs are.

[@tighep]

Egg shell is the sheen of the paint (somewhere in the middle of glossy vs flat). Perhaps you mean the bumpy texture that a roller leaves? Or perhaps the repair area appears more dull or even a different colour from the surrounding wall - possibly from no primer on the repair area? I am currious myself if he primes his repairs depending on the area and filling compound used.

[@Chris.Rhodes]

@@tighep egg shell is the sheen, but it's also a texture I believe. Either way, the walls have an egg shell type texture. It's not orange peel, it's just from multiple years of roller texture. When I do a repair, I'll put 2 coats of Pro Mar 400 paint (it's what the company buys) and unless I get a heavy nap roller, it would probably take me a dozen coats to bring that texture back. So when you walk in, all the walls have kinda an egg shell texture, and then you have the super flat repairs I've done, and you can spot it from a mile away. Aside from doing a dozen coats of paint, I'd love to know how to bring that texture back as quick as possible and with as less coats as possible. I don't have all day to put a dozen coats on little spots.

[@tighep]

@@Chris.Rhodes Agreed. Could make an interesting video on how to match existing walls

[@Chris.Rhodes]

@@tighep it really infuriates me after you spend all that time with repairing something and it's hard to match that texture. I've used spray cans of orange peel, and then sanded, it was close, but it's a different texture.

[@NickRgibbs]

If you are talking about seeing the texture of the old roller vs the smooth new repair it is virtually impossible. The older houses with dozens of coats of paint end up having walls that look like the skin of an avocado. It sucks because all the modern paints have such small particulates to aid with leveling and flow. The only way I've been able to get close is to use an oil primer with a traditional sleeve(not a microfibre) to try to build up the paint texture. If you're stuck using latex try going back to the patches and dry rolling right before they flash off with a thick nap. My region switched to almost exclusive low sheen paints and it isn't as much of an issue anymore.