JOJO SIWA: The Horrific Truth Behind Hollywood's Worst Child Star.

[@iNabber]

BIG UPDATE: Jojo Siwa Is Hiding A Career-Ending Secret From EVERYONE. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpibeGqgodForKM

[@asmasaeed7809]

Tyyy

[@RedKunoichi]

I’ll def watch it, hopefully it has the the song Karma in it cause there’s more about the story of karma

[@kassiedabs13]

Hey is it possible to turn thre volume up on your end like as youre recording the video? I have you up on full blast but can barely hear you when I'm trying to say clean or run water etc as im listening.. i LOVE your deep dives and all your content really. ❤

[@mintyylix]

@@kassiedabs13 have you tried earbuds?

[@kassiedabs13]

@@mintyylix yes, but I have children so I cant always wear earbuds. I don't have an issue with other videos like I did this one. Even when not doing anything the volume is relatively low when I have it on full volume

[@tobi_talks_2_much]

Jojo Siwa is a perfect example of the transition of when the cycle of abuse reaches the next generation. At a certain point, you are no longer a child that lashes out as a result of abuse. Eventually, you become an adult that has control over their actions. Jojo Siwa is an adult that should know better than to treat people the same way she was treated. She is responsible for her own actions, and she should be held accountable.

[@eileensnow6153]

I think she must be in denial. Nobody wakes up in the morning and says, “I think I’ll perpetuate the abuse that I was subjected to as a child and repeat the cycle!” She just thinks it’s normal. In my opinion, of course

[@GypsyChlo]

​@@eileensnow6153 she absolutely is - she still supports Abby and defended Colleen Ballinger on Howie Mandel's podcast

[@chocomelo454]

​@chloe8094 that is craaazy bc back in the day Jojo called out Abby for her treatment of the girls.

[@PeppaTeaPig]

You worded this so perfectly!

[@breathoffreshair7795]

"should know better" is the key phrase because ultimately she was told it was normal, so to her life should operate as she has experienced, the same way the opposite is true for us. learning how to educate people like that is what needs to be practiced

[@FinkDaMushyCat]

Abby Lee Miller should of been cancelled long ago after causing children to have mental breakdowns. Imagine letting a grown woman make your child not want to live, because you wanna get on TV.... And making a child question their worth.

[@manic_girl]

Also imagine PAYING Abby Lee Miller to traumatize your child. I could never.

[@alisonmercer5946]

Imagine making these shows at all. So many reality shows that were abusive it's effed up

[@alisonmercer5946]

​@@manic_girlright. Gotta be some decent dance teachers out there who aren't abusive or is dance that bad

[@princesslina4043]

should have* ❤️

[@quirkywoman8969]

her show still going on

[@maiajarvis404]

"I am no longer in a place where I needs to improve or grow as a person. I can just surround myself with sycophants and enablers until I die tragically young" - Sarah Lynn, Bojack Horsman. Lowkey ironically what I imagine JoJo's mentality is right now.

[@dxitydevil]

Bojack horseman always has the best quotes

[@izzyt1626]

I was thinking the same thing. I just hope Jojo doesn't sign off the same way Sarah Lynn did

[@maiajarvis404]

@@izzyt1626 Same here. I may not really care for her or her actions or mental gymnastics trying to justify the blatantly abusive & destructive behaviour of herself and her peers, but I would rather see her get the help idk, take a break from socials and try to live a normal life away from the obligations the spotlight demands.

[@Sharon-gb5ku]

Even though your statement does not belong to you, it is STILL a terrible statement to state. You don't own the statement but you are directing the statement to JoJo, I believe. Turn this situation around. What if someone stated this statement to you or your loved ones. Oh my. Wow. By the way, according to the Internet, Sarah Lynn died of a Heroin overdose. JoJo does not do drugs. Sarah Lynn's death was tragic. WTH? JoJo is soon to be 21 years old. I look forward to see what is next for her. To LIFE and to LIVING!!!

[@maiajarvis404]

​ @Sharon-gb5ku Brother I never claimed the statement belonged to me, making your first comment irrelevant. And I am making a parallel as they share a similar history in show business, where both were raised in very toxic and 'Plastic' environments, taken advantage of by the adults in their life and despite others breaking away they couldn't seem to 'Stop Dancing' for their respective and quite frankly obsessive and insane audiences. She is in a very dangerous setting, and this recent publicity stunt could be a cry for help, even if inadvertently. As in the show Bojack horsemen, as soon as Sarah Lynn became an adult... she basically did exactly what JoJo is doing now. I have never found much interest in JoJo or her previous career however this is such a leap that it just seems like either, a cry for help (As previously stated) or simply a Publicity stunt to draw attention away from her shitty actions in continuing the cycle of show business trauma. So yeah, the last thing I want to see is her die to a drug overdose, and yeah there is no evidence of her abusing any kind of drug/alcohol. The comparison was of her actions and enabling behaviour. The best thing she could do is to take a break from the media, not feed it's toxicity. And cut ties with the toxic people in her life, starting with the two groomers she is dead set of defending...

[@erinlewis6901]

It reminds me of how Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen both said they'd never wish their childhood on another kid. It really puts in perspective the derangement of Siwa

[@justkiddin84]

Yep, they were pretty messy for a while themselves. If you watch interviews with Brooke Shields and others who were put into ‘the industry,’ you see the pattern over and over. Britney and Amanda Bynes. Boy and girl bands. It’s often truly horrifying. A member of Menudo came forward to say that their manager, the father of the Menendez brothers SA’d him. He did the same to his sons and other boys. Horrifying.

[@MichaeltheArchangel1-w5n]

​@@justkiddin84I don't know about the Menendez Brothers because that case sounds fishy but I do agree that boy/girl bands can be terrible.

[@maddieb.4282]

@@justkiddin84the Menendez brothers were both adults who planned an ice cold double homicide and convinced a lot of fools to believe in their innocence, I’m sorry you fell for it

[@justkiddin84]

@@maddieb.4282 and I’m sorry you fell for hateful anti-‘gay’ narratives. Have a good day

[@beabear7750]

My old dance instructor met Abby once way before Dance Moms at a competition. She told us she doesn’t just treat her own dancers like trash and what you see is what you get. My instructor had to get her dancers away so that Abby would stop harassing them. I will tell you now, without bias, my instructor was great. She may not have won as many medals but she made sure we were mentally alright and if we were anxious she made us calm. That’s what a good instructor does. Helps their dancers. (Sorry for droning on. I just miss her.)

[@viviennemorgan7217]

your dance instructor is the best what's her name?

[@beabear7750]

@@viviennemorgan7217 Idk how to spell her last name and she no longer teaches but Janet Layden. She was amazing in my opinion.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@beabear7750 ok and is she like cathy?

[@GrainneSheridan]

It takes a special kind of person to calm kids anxious about a performance. She sounds lovely.

[@_HimToo]

That's ehat a good instructor is *for you* & for other people dancing 'for fun'. There's a reason the jerky lady from tv won more competitions. The kids on Dance Moms weren't dancing for fun... they were trying to be famous or have careers in dance. It usually takes discipline & a stiff upper lip to stick out from the sea of other dancers. If there's blame here, it belongs on the parents for allowing all this crap for something that their kid might not even be interested in a few years down the line. Making it their whole life doesn't really leave a lot of room for changing their mind later. The again it's probably more about what the mothers want to begin with

[@Lolbabbeeves]

I was, too, a bad girl when I wore sparkly bows and skirts back in the day

[@TashaBryanRENegade]

Rebel. Anarchist. How have you been allowed to associate in public with _regular rich folk_

[@taywuu]

You know that’s not what it’s about right? It’s about she was a “bad girl” because she cheated on someone. Not that she was a bad girl when she was younger. 😒

[@SmilerORocker]

Is the smiling for me,... nobody that bad smiles that much.... wait.... OK.. As someone named after my smile, I can confirm you can be bad and smile.... but she still isn't it 😂😂👍🇮🇪

[@yukikanegawa7470]

She was younger when she cheated and "I was a bad girl" is a very funny way to talk and your role in your shitty relationship.​@@taywuu

[@kaitlynmorgan4613]

@@taywuu yeah but she still dressed like a child because of her child-friendly branding. which wouldve been while she wore skirts, bows, and sparkles

[@lanoosaurusrex]

Unfortunately it’s not mutually exclusive - that is, you can be abused, and be an abuser yourself. I realized this when I had to break up with someone who kept defending someone who was a bully simply because that person was bullied in their childhood. Also, just because you were raped doesn’t make it okay for you to rape others. Or just because your parents abused you doesn’t make it okay for you to abuse your own children etc. Sometimes, it’s obvious, sometimes not so much.

[@Prettywhite4awhiteguy]

Exactly, that's why we are supposed to break those cycles of abuse. Sometimes it sucks but you have to step up and be the better person or it will never end.

[@farawayxgalaxy]

Generational abuse and trauma existing proves your point even more. An abuse victim very much can grow to be an abuser as well and continue the cycle

[@yeetymcneety]

The cycle of abuse is very real, and it's really sad that it is. Being abused can teach you that abuse is okay and normal. You have to recognize that you've been abused to begin to break out. So many abuse victims are in denial, they don't or can't realize they've been hurt and that this isn't okay. I practically had to be told I was being abused, and I do everything in my power to be a person far better than either of my parents ever will be.

[@r3dr4te963]

I feel that victim-turn-perpetrators often got mentality like "I won't be the last victim", it feels necessary for them to continue the "rituals", horrible

[@bariatric-parasite]

yeah i just think in this case it will especially hard bc she is rewarded for these actions, as was her mother and those around her.

[@MMumbles]

Who knew someone who would defend a child predator would be a bad person?

[@kaitlynmorgan4613]

i feel like everyone shouldve disliked her after she said the word "lesbian" was icky. or if not that, then when she cheated on her gf. aaand when she stayed friends with james charles and shane dawson. and then colleen. all three of those people have predatory allegations so 😭😭.. people were also mad or weirded out when she constantly pretended to be pregnant with what turned out to be "food babies" 💀💀

[@sleepysartorialist]

@@kaitlynmorgan4613 her personal dating life is not any of our business despite mainstream news outlets efforts to make us care (I don't)

[@THEDubbleHelixx]

Hey now. You're not allowed to call her a bad person because it's rude or something, idk

[@horvathsogranfume658]

​@@sleepysartorialistjojo chooses to share it

[@ElizaSimmer]

Shocking truly smh

[@NoRegretsHomestuck]

I’m gonna be real honest with you iNabber I never really like or comment on videos because I play them on my PlayStation as background noise but since you asked I want you to know I truly and genuinely appreciate you’re 2-4 hour videos. Normally when I find myself zoning out with a video (which is often) playing I’ll just keep letting it play anyway but with your videos I will rewind them so I don’t miss anything. These long format videos must be extremely hard work and I’m always excited to see them, I never care what the topic even if I have no interest in the subject originally because you’re so detailed in everything so keep doing what you’re doing! Your content is very much appreciated and truly amazing. I’ll start liking and commenting beans from now on to help the algorithm bro (Also Shadow is awesome, love seeing him in the background lol)

[@Xxxypher]

My favourite thing about her "rebrand" and song is she claims she wrote the lyrics but the original song was written back in 2011 for Miley Cyrus and scrapped, then later sung by Brit Smith with a music video produced but later scrapped before release and then Jojo buys the rights for the song in the last year or so. Between the original lyrics and Jojo's version there are a grand total of NINE word changes and the removal of the first post-chorus. Jojo is also not credited as a songwriter or producer on the official credits for her song.

[@ThatPersonK]

She bought the rights aged 18 actually!

[@viviennemorgan7217]

sorry honey but jojo's rebrand is terrible, but miley cyrus's rebrand is awesome

[@maddieb.4282]

@@viviennemorgan7217who are you calling honey? Lol

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@maddieb.4282 i wasn't calling anyone honey all i did was to compare miley cyrus and jojo siwa's rebrand chill out.

[@notsuspicioususer4080]

@@viviennemorgan7217girl you literally said “sorry honey” in your comment lmao, that’s why they were upset

[@tegantalks9612]

I think Christina Ricci hit the nail on the head when she said “sometimes people we have loved and admired do horrible things. They might not do these things to us, and we only know who they were to us, but that doesn't mean they didn't do the horrible things, and to discredit the abused is a crime.” Jojo is perpetuating the cycle of abuse when she defends these predators and what’s even worse is that arguably Abby Lee Miller wasn’t even a nice person to her. She knows how vicious Abby can be and she’s still discrediting people who speak up about her. Let’s not even go into the shit she talked about the victims of Colleen Ballinger.

[@BronzeDragon133]

That's my uncle to a T. He was horribly abusive to his wife and children...but seemed to like and favor me. I don't have a single bad memory of him. This doesn't mean I disbelieve the stories of his children (I distinctly remember he always smelt of beer or other alcohol so yes, the man had a major problem), just that my experience always differed, for no apparent reason (to most others in the family, I'm the scapegoat, but never to him; maybe he saw something of himself in me?) Conversely, most of the rest of the family saw or see the major abusers as perfect and flawless, whereas I'm aware of how monstrous they are and won't listen to a word otherwise. For the most part, this has led to me simply not speaking with them any longer. It's not worth the arguments and half-safety.

[@tegantalks9612]

@@BronzeDragon133 I am so sorry you and your family had to go through that. I hope all of you are doing well now.

[@BronzeDragon133]

@@tegantalks9612 Well, I'm great. Them? You'd have to ask them. We're not speaking. 🙂

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

Well said!

[@justkiddin84]

Exactly. Sometimes, the apple is identical to the tree.

[@IAmContemporary]

You often see victims of abuse minimising the experience of others and even siding with abusers (Colleen, James etc. in this case) because acknowledging the abuse means they have to face the fact that what happened to them wasn’t okay and that they’re actually victims themselves. It’s the whole “it can’t be bad because it happened to me and I turned out fine” narrative.

[@vraimothra]

theres also a huge wave of people saying legitimate victims of crime and abuse are "self-victimizing" by simply acknowledging the fact that someone else's actions *made* them a victim. and really being a victim is the first stage in the journey to become a survivor of what happened to you.

[@auroragoth5078]

Honestly, it like those in the older generations talking about parents in this newer generation, talking about “you should hit your kids, back in my day I was (insert horrific abusive, sometimes torturous actions) and I turned out just fine”

[@dangerxbadger2300]

​@auroragoth5078 it always cracks me up because the people who say those kinds of things are the people that regularly vote for things like slashing welfare benefits, harsher penalties for immigrants who are undocumented, people who think therapy is for weak-minded people etcetera. Basically, they claim they turned out fine when in reality they are bootstrapping sociopaths most of the time hahaha

[@lemolea9571]

​@@vraimothra I totally agree. Acknowledging you're a victim, especially acknowledging your parents are bad people is incredibly difficult and scary because your instinct is to love and trust them, but it's possible. And so important to start recovering - it removes that cognitive dissonance of 'i both love and hate them'. She continually says her past made her who she is but you can acknowledge you're a victim AND that your past made you strong / not want to change it. Sometimes it takes talking to normal people, being removed from a situation and years of therapy to fix these mindsets. I don't justify her though, she's an adult and I think it's our responsibility as the abused to break/prevent the cycle and make sure others are protected from what we endured.

[@KC-tx3ko]

Also, p$d0s are often victims of sa themselves. It’s not a far stretch that other forms of child abuse have a similar effect.

[@altega]

i feel like youre sort of missing what leigha's mom meant when she said they were taking every opportunity they can get. yes, its less likely for someone whos disabled to be picked for things like this, but i think she meant more like. you dont know how much time is left. my best friend in kindergarten had spina bifida and passed away in the spring of 2006 due to complications in surgery. when you have a child with a condition like this, you really never know how much time is left with them, and want to give them everything they can in life. knowing that makes this whole thing so insidious.

[@name.333]

Woah I didn’t realise that could be what she meant

[@daxhopkins7312]

Its not just death to consider. Spina bifida is often quite disabling, and being able to dance with it at any higher level is unusual. So many possibilities for the disability associated with her condition to get worse and end all chances of a dance career. Knowing you're in that position, their approach seems quite reasonable.

[@lucyjane3803]

Yeah I interpreted it that way - as in her physical ability is not guaranteed and she might not have a long window to be a dancer. I think they chose her for that reason because they knew she/her mother would be easier to manipulate and exploit. There is no excuse for how she was treated.

[@CainXVII]

I completely understand that. But as someone who has one of these competitive careers there is so much more to life, and if your work is ruining the rest of your life you really have to call it quits. That is super hard to do. But I feel like as a parent you should be able to have the outside perspective and see that this is no good. I am in the same situation - I am so lucky to have this job, I worked so hard for it, I really wanted to do this, I really can't give up. But this workplace is ruining my body and mind. At what point do you just go "no, having a good time and not hurting all over is more important"? If I was still a kid with a parent, I would probably want my parent to step in for me. And maybe that's why they also chose to speak out in the end. To hell with consequences - if things didn't get better it wasn't worth staying anyways. You can be happy doing something else else even if it feels like a huge, huge loss at the time.

[@name.333]

@@CainXVII you also don’t have the perspective of being or having a chronically ill child who wants to fulfil their dream lol

[@Yelwel]

Also for reference, the song Jojo put out actually was written and had a conceptual release 12 years ago. 12. YEARS. That’s why the song sounds so manufactured, because it was candy pop that didn’t make the cut, and she used the song for a rebrand. She didn’t care about the music, just getting people to look somewhere else so she doesn’t have to face the serious criticism.

[@AxoKindness]

Colleen: * gets accused of horrible things. Makes a cringe song about it * Jojo: * gets accused of horrible things. Makes a cringe song about it *

[@fabufriend4950]

Earlier today at work I heard a ten year old say that jojo siwa was evil; and was trying to explain it to their parents; It really hit me that kids these days really do absorb EVERYTHING on the internet. I'm legit jojos age and she feels so alien to me.

[@Sharon-gb5ku]

Sad. Very sad.

[@emm21118]

Why were they saying she was evil? Because of how she treated those kids on her show? That’s great that they picked it up.

[@izzyt1626]

Same. I'm 21 and I cannot grasp the fact that we're the same age. And not just because she's rich and famous

[@valolafson6035]

I think that's the abuse. It does something to you, and makes it hard to go back to being a normal person again.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@izzyt1626 jojo's going to be 21 next month.

[@talynhastime9343]

Dance Moms to me is a symptom of a larger cultural issue in the US which is that children are viewed as property of their parents. American culture recognizes their autonomy when they hit 18, but until then they are property and no one has the right to interfere with someone else’s parenting because “freedom” and “liberty” and “personal speech” and crap like that. Also, America just likes to exploit people, and kids especially because there is also this sense of “Oh well back in myyyyy day I was doing this, this, and this. Hardship makes strong responsible kids”. There is a portion of the population that cares not a lick about childrens’ feelings or well-being because children are viewed as needing to bend to their parents’ authority first and foremost; that children are amoral little monsters that need to have the realities of life hammered into them or they’ll grow up to be menaces to society. I mean, in certain cases that’s true, but there’s a triangulated sweet spot between neglectful/permissive parenting, totalitarian parenting, and exploitative parenting that can be reached. Also America will commodify absolutely everything, including children. Nothing is sacred to us when it comes to making a dollar.

[@_SunscreenQueen_]

THIS!!!

[@ww3196]

COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF, THANK YOU

[@alisonmercer5946]

I think totalitarian parenting is the most popular and all it is is abuse. They abuse kids and call it discipline and say it is needed to teach them to not be soft. ( Or they arex accused of being posseded by demons like ruby franke kids

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

That is incredibly accurate. You just forgot the weird obsession with the Old Testament teachings that evangelicals have and use it to hate everything & everyone. And our guns. We really love our guns (because they're awesome!), some just love them to an unhealthy degree, I'll say. You must live here 😅

[@Zaddy-Lu]

Children are innocent, adults put their own feelings onto them. I have never met a 3 or 4 year old that naturally lies, there is most often something the adults around them instill in them, like accusing them of lying constantly, or overreacting when the child does a normal child thing. Cooties and the opposite gender being "yucky" or "gross" is from adults too. When a 2 year old has a lollipop and offers a lick to an adult, which is a very sweet & generous gesture, if the adult says "ewee, why would I want your germs?" that's going to affect how they see themselves & other people.

[@aceanarchy5554]

The concept of an 8-15 yr old competition show is insane to me as a kpop stan. There was a recent kpop competition show called R U Next, where girls competed to debut in one group that viewers could also vote them into. The show's youngest contestant was 12 years old and during the airing time, almost everyone mutually agreed to not vote for her as she was too young to debut. Every time a minor (under 17) debuts in the kpop industry, it usually ends up that there is a heavy conversation about whether or not it is ethical for them to be in a group. Mostly because the industry is insanely ruthless and really not a good place for minors.

[@ovgem]

that's interesting, i've heard a lot about k-pop idols training since they were like toddlers (ik training isn't the same as debuting) and people calling idols that are 25+ "old"

[@ashrowan2143]

​@@ovgem yeah the idol industry is absolutely atrocious for how much pressure it puts on young kids and even young adults there are definitely parts of society who enjoy things like Kpop who side eye pretty heavily the expectations placed on the shoulders of younger idols or young folks hoping to be idols

[@winkle1983]

I’m a kpop stan and when they debut, even at 18, they’ve been a trainee for years and years…they don’t pop into the industry at 18 and not been in it since 14 or younger…

[@radschele1815]

I mean... the working culture is already insane. And for the women... Korea is sexist as well...

[@senu.]

don't forget the ageism , they're calling men that have yet to hit 30 uncles and women past 25 aunties like ...please can we be normal. I want more older idols but in these conditions it's near impossible.

[@VTPPGLVR]

13:29 I’ve had a knack for singing since I was a kid, so one day my mom took me to interview for a voice trainer, to see if I wanted to do this and if she wanted me as a student. At one point (first red flag) she sent my mom out of the room to interview me. I was like 13, and this woman was NOT a medical professional. She asked me what my goals were with singing and I must’ve been so disappointing; something like that ”I want to do my best, go as far as I can. But I know that no one is perfect at everything, so whenever I find that point where I’ve grown and gone as far as I can, I’d like to go too college and see how far I can go in that whole thing.” The woman called my mom back in and started saying how I was saying that I would do anything to be famous, that I would do whatever it takes, etc. My 🤨 face must’ve been loud af, because my mom politely ended the convo, we got back in the car, and she asked if any of what that woman said was true. I told her the woman kind of scared me saying that I had said things I *didn’t* say, and we never went to her again. It also made me realize that was a small taste of the BS of professional singing, and that was NOT my ideal growing conditions. I’m not a cactus that grows in the infernos of merciless work; I’m a partly-shade bitch!

[@Blue_SGT]

It just got found that she didn't even write Karma. She literally bought it from someone else and changed "messed around" to "effed around"😂😂

[@nope19568]

the messed to effed switched made me fuckin cackle when i learned about it like come on girly did your recording label really say you cant say fucked??😂 especially right after she already said bitch!

[@elliot..5920]

bro was NOT a bad girl, she literally said herself she had issues with saying the word "bitch" throughout the cover recordings💀

[@GrainneSheridan]

@@nope19568 well, with bitch you can argue she was talking about dogs for when she rebrands back.

[@literalcyborg3723]

I have spina bifida. It’s true that a lot of people who have it have very limited mobility, and Leigha is a rare case, like myself. I can understand her mom’s wish for her daughter to take as many opportunities as she could because at any point her condition could change and leave her unable to dance. However, I don’t think it’s okay to let your child go to a dance class only a few weeks after surgery, much less in an environment where the girls are regularly required to overwork themselves. Spinal surgeries can take months to fully recover from, and they are excruciating to go through. Leigha deserved so much better, and it’s incredibly lucky that the abuse she suffered didn’t worsen her condition to the point of ruining her dance career entirely.

[@philstrachan]

I had a collapsed vertabrae in my neck and it took two YEARS to recover from. Competitive dancing would have been the last thing I'd want to do!

[@caseypanella3762]

Peeper fart

[@reckless_herb]

even simpler surgeries can take months to recover from!!! spinal surgery is no joke!!!

[@lucyjane3803]

Tbh its disgusting she was pressured to go back when the doctor hadn't cleared her for that level of activity. She should have had ALL the time she needed and either fully released from her contract without penalty or the contract adjusted again without penalty. They hired her with knowledge of her condition. It seems pretty apparent that the parents were held to ransom with threats of firing and subsequent legal action which could have put them in bankruptcy if they didn't comply. Imagine abusing your power in that way against a sick child. These people have no souls. The mother's biggest mistake was ever signing that contract in the first place, should have left her daughter in performing arts high school (already a great achievement) to be happy and normal. History has shown nothing good comes from children being in reality TV.

[@Vasilia4]

Right, I don't understand why her mother is given so much grace. If anything, this makes her the WORST mother of all. Why would you push your DISABLED child to pursue a dance career, at the expense of her education?

[@Cat-li6hh]

I think one of the reasons Jojo isn’t speaking out about Abby from Dance Moms is because her abusive teaching style worked for Jojo. Everyone learns differently and responds to things differently - especially toxic and traumatic situations. If Jojo responded well to the abuse she endured I think it’s very possible she sees it as a necessary part of the path to success. And if she didn’t view how she was treated by Abby and her mom as extreme because she was used to it, she may think other people are over reacting because it wasn’t “that bad” for her. She’s an adult now. She should know what she was allegedly doing to those girls was abusive and horrible. Also - that was such a blatant breech of contract I would be very surprised if Jojos lawyers were able to dig her out of that hole.

[@BreMue]

Absolutely i feel like its also a little bit of stockholm syndrome because "without me you wouldnt be where you are" ... and theyre right. Which makes it so easy to look at them as a positive figure instead of an abuser because "thats how i got where i am"

[@forg3038]

As someone who thrived when it came to my sport (Synchronised swimming) due to my coach's abuse, I absolutely see how that would be possible. At the same time I am still having to deal with the consequences of that. I am the kind of person that has a very hard time stopping when in pain, because I was taught that if there is no pain and dread, you aren't actually doing anything and won't succeed. I have had to go through A LOT of therapy to even chip the surface. I understand how wrong that was, and in no way shape or form would I EVER put someone else through it. I left the sport I once loved, and I have had to personally choose not to ever coach because of the possibility of me falling into my old coach's steps. She can and should do better.

[@horvathsogranfume658]

also: jojo was already kinda famous when she got on dance moms so abby treated her better than most kids

[@tiredteen8906]

Good point! I think its stockholm Syndrome to a certain extend as well

[@calexis.0]

@@horvathsogranfume658 um. what? jojo wasnt already famous. and she was one of the kids treated the worst by abby, she did not hide at all that she hated jojo....

[@snowcattish]

My take on Jojo Siwa is she is the classic example of "the victim becomes the abuser". She's been abused by the show business industry, Abby Lee, her mother... She has been groomed by God only knows how many people including Colleen Ballinger. The sudden public hypersexuality is a major red flag 🚩 I think in about 10 years Jojo is going to write a tell all book about the abuses she suffered as a child star but didn't recognize them until later in life.

[@maniaclaugh]

Hopefully she will snap out of it before she commits even more of the atrocities that were done to her or, if she has kids, to them. She will soon have to face the fact that as a 21 year old adult she no longer has the option of claiming childish ignorance without repercussions.

[@fluffycorn_0wO]

@@maniaclaughyeah… all she can do to redeem herself at this point is admit to her wrongful actions, accept the fact that she WAS a victim of abuse during her quite terrible childhood years, and had sadly became an enabler as she got older as another adult abuser to other children. We just have to hope that she snaps out of her denial before she does even more atrocious and terrible things as she grows more older and older…

[@vismattress5760]

"The sudden public hypersexuality is a major red flag" no, its not. the "sudden hypersexuality" nonsense is bwcause she's an adult now and doesnt have to be tied to her sparkly cutsey persona anymore. ppl said the same sh*t about Ari & Miley.

[@maddieb.4282]

She’s not hypersexual and she’s not acting out from abuse 😂 her public actions are extremely curated and she even felt uncomfortable saying “the B word.”

[@Towhee]

My mother - who was a dancer as a kid/teen - LOVED Dance Moms. She watched it from airdate to enddate and it was often a background noise in the house. Literally the entire time I'd be looking at these ADULT women screaming and berating crying little girls and thinking "jesus christ, how can anyone find this entertaining?" and that these poor kids were gonna grow up with some serious issues. JoJo's whole.... thing, lately, really makes me look back at those shows. They should genuinely be considered child abuse, but bc it happens in front of a camera, it's "just television". Disgusting.

[@cowboycoven]

Just so you know, I've watched every single one of your video essays from start to finish, and I especially love the 2/3+ hour long ones! Best part of my day is when I just get to sit down with my knitting, pop in my headphones, and watch a full iNabber video!!

[@nerdoftheatre]

1:36:02 "The Internet can take a lie and run with it." While, yes, Jojo, that is true. There is also like, EVIDENCE of Colleen's creepy behavior??? You can't really call that a lie whenever there's actual evidence.

[@philstrachan]

And James Charles. How that guy isn't in prison is beyond me.

[@calexis.0]

you can when you were an unkowing victim that believes every word they say, and when you're jojo and disregard anything bad of those around you because they're ur "friends" or mommy dearest.

[@MichaeltheArchangel1-w5n]

I'm not surprised since apparently, she might have been groomed as well. Abused can become abusers, and it's a thing we should help stop quickly. Unfortunately, it's too common and can be hard to identify, especially with young children who don't know much.

[@ching0naaaa400]

JoJo used to get SHIT ON on that show,, litterally some of the other moms would mock JoJo's mannerisms and voice as well as other contestants, INCLUDING Abby Lee herself. So its not really suprising to me that once JoJo kinda got a taste at being the Head Honcho of this other group where ALL of these little girls look up to HER, whether voluntarily or not, it seems like JoJo started living that mean girl fantasy that she'd only been subjected to by other mean girls.. Now that theres no one to challenge her and shes been entrusted with an entire team of subordinates, she's under the assumption that she and her mom can do or say whatever outta-pocket shit they want to these litteral children.. Hence why they're always defending Abby's past abuse

[@JadeUseless_]

This is exactly what I was thinking, 100% this is what she's doing

[@viviennemorgan7217]

didn't the dancers on dance moms mock jojo because of the way she speaks?

[@justme0910]

One thing I (as an abuse survivor and advocate) would like to point out is that the circle of abuse is very real, but it doesn't exist in the way people think it does. The biggest misconception about abusers is that that they have issues controlling their emotions (usually due to trauma or substance use or some sort of mental illness) and that's why they "lash out". But that's not true. The problem isn't that they can't control themselves. The problem is that they really want to control YOU. There ARE people who do lash out when in emotional distress, but those people tend to show genuine remorse and take responsibility for the hurt they cause in the process. Abusers on the other hand? Sure, they may feign regret, but they don't actually feel guilty. Deep down, they believe that their actions were justified, that the victim deserved to be "put in their place", and that the abuser will ultimately be vindicated. And that's where the cycle of abuse comes in. Abuse is not a trauma response, it's a set of attitudes, beliefs and behaviors - and victims, especially young victims, will often unknowingly internalize those. It's the "I was hit as a child and I turned out fine" mindset. A deep conviction that this is just how the world works, and that anyone who disagrees is a weak-willed hippie who will spoil their children and get disrespected by their spouse. Should we give abuse survivors some grace while we unlearn all that nonsense? Yes. Does this mean we shouldn't be held accountable for our actions? Absolutely not. These behavioral patterns are harmful, do nothing to help us recover, and need to be addressed.

[@mylilpearl]

you explained this perfectly

[@AlleenLoveHope]

very well said! The majority of abuse survivors do NOT go on to be abusers. Its more common to be a repeat victim than anything else.

[@zoemills242]

you are spot on.

[@humanbean4037]

Yeah it’s like a mini-cult

[@nitnatgal7879]

Eloquently put together and spot on. Great comment

[@sarahdawn931]

I don't know what it will take for laws to catch up and not allow the exploitation of children for content. Regardless if its a televised "competition" show, or some momfluencer or parent making content revolving around their children. No child should have to handle the insane pressure of being the breadwinner of their family, and made to "preform" 24/7. It never ends well. Also thank you for another long comprehensive video...I get so much stuff done while listening because I'm not constantly distracting myself looking for something else to listen to every 15-20 minutes.

[@rebelrebelramblings1217]

I have some physical issues/minor disability stuff related to my hips and legs, relatively minor impact on my day to day life, but I can tell you that sleeping on an air mattress, even just for one night, will cause me to have pain, stiffness, and dislocation problems that can take a few days (and possibly a chiropractic adjustment) for me to recover from. And that’s assuming I didn’t do an arduous physical activity - such as dancing - during the day before sleeping on that air mattress. I cannot imagine this poor girl with Spina Bifida having to sleep on an air mattress for months on end while also putting her body through hours of dancing every day 💔

[@iank472]

Something to consider about Leigha's story is the ever present bane of the American healthcare system, or more accurately the total lack of healthcare if you can't afford treatment. Leigha required extensive medical treatments and prolonged care which would have been financially crippling for her family. Imagine being faced with the choice between putting your child through the abuse the Siwas piled on them or being unable to get your child the essential treatments she requires. I wouldn't wish that situation on anyone.

[@CL0UD3D.]

Yeah, that could've very much contributed to her decisions in that time

[@yaminohere]

Seeing her latest things on tiktok of being like "i'm gonna create a 'new' brand of pop. gay pop." while being dressed like Gene Simmons and not knowing who he is... ಠ_ಠ All of the gay pop artists, would like you to take several seats.

[@samwindmill8264]

Lol there were gay pop artists long before she was even born 🤣 George Michael, Freddie Mercury, Elton John, freakin Liberace

[@caseypanella3762]

Peeper fart

[@littleblue843]

I was legit looking for a comment that mentioned she's basically in crappy Kiss cosplay. Bless this comment❤

[@rickwrites2612]

Lol seriously I went to a KISS show in the 90s I thought maybe there was some actual Kiss tie in from thumbnail😂

[@KuroNoUsagi]

Mom wake up inabber uploaded banger content

[@iNabber]

wahey

[@TheGuardianssorrow]

"Mom" 😭😂

[@Alt_of_all_trades]

When doesn't he?

[@DaniWhoPhD]

Another banger from iNabber from KZbin

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@Alt_of_all_tradesWhen he's not done making it yet, duh

[@jimdandy6754]

"Of course we all know, who JoJo Siwa is"... German reporting in, never heard of this kid until now.

[@maddieb.4282]

Congrats, you’re sooooo much better than the rest of us lol

[@alexnorth9740]

Way to miss the point. 👍

[@GrainneSheridan]

I’m American and didn’t know anything about her until very recently, I guess I just wasn’t the demographic. I actually thought all the kids wearing bows was an anime thing…

[@chaoskitten1570]

Okay, but why are we acting surprised by how child stars are treated? It has improved, but look at how stars like Shirley Temple were treated during her time as a child star for some real horror stories. Hell, for some real 'why did we think that was okay?!?!' Watch what she was in, at the beginning of her career! 😢

[@justnana13-klj40]

Her Mom. Abby Lee Miller. The bows. Do i think that perhaps she was exposed to a lot, at a young age? Yes, as i have watched many of the girls, now young women, speak out about that show. That being said, now, as an adult, the people she surrounds herself with - says a lot about her now. Calling victims liars - thats all i need to know about her. Beans, btw. Edit- Jessalynn and the mothers, i always felt, were living vicariously through their children "Toddlers and Tiaras" is another show you should check into.

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

I assume all parents that force their kids into stuff such as these types of competitions, as well as that Toddlers & Tiaras show, are doing so to live through them. It's so weird. It also feels like I can't trust the parents, those industries feel shady to me. Unless the kids are the ones wanting to do it, I don't like parents forcing their kids into activities they don't like. I let my kids pick out their own hobbies.

[@liesbeneathoureyes]

Alanna (Honey Boo Boo) from Toddlers and Tiaras is currently in a dispute with her mother bc the mother spent all Alanna’s money that she earned from working as a child on reality television. Now Alanna is old enough to access the money and there’s barely anything left

[@lucyjane3803]

@@liesbeneathoureyes I feel so bad for Alanna 🥺 She literally supported that vile excuse for a mother and paid for her drug addiction and pedo boyfriends and weight loss surgeries, now she can't even afford to go to college.

[@calexis.0]

she surrounds herself with the adults that have been befriending her since a kid or a teen, to her they are friends not groomers. she called victims liars because shes in denial, and blinded believing whatever the groomers say. And her mom is the worst but she doesn't see it because its mommy dearest. Im not at all defending her actions caused from it, she is an adult and is responsible for them. Im just also aware of the bigger picture. also, you are on the right path of the toddler and tiaras, parents having their kids drink soda, energy drink, or whatever mixture to keep them awake was wild.

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

@@liesbeneathoureyes Not surprised in the least. This is usually what happens to all the money that child stars make. If their parents cared at all they would have created an account for them to put that money in so they can safely access it once they get old enough.

[@Vasilia4]

*Remember when Abby told Jessalyn that she was creating a monster? She had no idea how right she was at the time*

[@calexis.0]

she still doesnt know, abby still (seemingly) loves jojo, jessalynn and abby both turned jojo into abby. jojo said on a recent interview that how abby was on dance moms is just how dance teachers are. jojo NO ITS NOT.

[@0FreakShow0]

Jo jo, Colleen, Todrick, and James charles are all people who need to stop, get therapy, and a job

[@HereButNotPresent]

But remember Jojo doesn’t want to go to therapy cause once someone she knew had a bad experience 🤡

[@ashrowan2143]

​@@HereButNotPresentabsurd behaviour there are definitely therapists out there that do more harm than good but there are also ones that are spectacular I've seen a good one and one that was kind of crap I can't afford to see one currently but I hope to again in the future even though the last one I saw left a bad taste in my mouth (I was able to independently decide to stop seeing that therapist and did when things started going south)

[@amandamandamands]

@@HereButNotPresent That is as good as when she said that she never took singing lessons because she was worried that they would say that she couldn't sing.

[@orangeants]

Wait what happened with todrick I didn’t know he was at all problematic

[@Aeunax123]

@@orangeantssame! I’m so curious what the allegations are!

[@liv_is_asleep]

bro’s thanking us for watching the whole video but it’s a pleasure lmaooo sometimes i wish the videos were longer

[@MoonJellyontheMoon]

I love this long form content! I feel like very few creators are able to do content this long without just adding a ton of filler.

[@ashleymoon4668]

i just wanna say, a lot of people hate on youtubers for uploading long videos, but i live for it. the longer the better! i work overnights and am allowed to have stuff playing all night while i do my job. i’m constantly running out of content to keep from getting bored, so i always get super excited whenever you upload, because i know i’ll be covered all night! thank you for all the work and long hours i know go into making long projects like these consistently.

[@ripple329]

Same I got a job last year that allowed me to wear headphones so I love long videos that can be followed without having to watch my screen the whole time

[@breathoffreshair7795]

are you a fan of watching/listening to gaming content?

[@ohioreseller6959]

Yes! I hate that so many have gone to shorter videos. I love having videos on in the background when I work, it’s getting harder to find videos that are longer than 2 hours.

[@GamingWithJazz]

Thanks for this. In a Facebook group for KZbinrs, people complaining about my videos being too long. Seeing this helps me understand those people don't speak for the entire internet.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

​​@@GamingWithJazz You have some awesomely long videos🙂 Have you ever played SOMA? And some people have the attention span of a fly, so don't worry about them.

[@olgs37]

What JoJo's defenses remind me of is my cousin. He raped me when I was around 8 (he was an adult) and was creepy to me. I'd told someone and they didn't believe me because, "well, he's never been anything but a polite gentleman to me, so I can't believe that he did that". Not everyone shows their true colors to everyone. They are good at covering that up. My "father" was similar. He's a guinea worm of a human and has treated people worse than dirt (the things he'd done to my mother are almost unspeakable). His family? "No, no! He can do no wrong! You must have done something to make such an 'angel' behave that way because he's never done that to US!" Yeah, his relationship with his wife and children (though none of us acknowledge him) are obviously going to be different than that of his with his siblings and parents. And he was more than comfortable showing his true colors to us. JoJo's outlook is so painfully naive, it's almost laughable. Almost. It's almost like she's stuck in a little girl mentality yet somehow thinks she's super mature and educated. It's so bizarre. Great content, btw. I'm glad I subbed.

[@maryamdear2122]

That’s a whole boat of fucked and I’m sorry you’ve been through all that.

[@rooplespooples]

I am so sorry to read this. I'm just a stranger, but i'm wishing you the best. I really hope things are better for you now.

[@nope19568]

listening to her reminds me of listening to cult member interviews, the level of cognitive dissonance is astounding

[@olgs37]

@@maryamdear2122 You know what's sad? When I read your reply, I was a bit confused because the rape is one of the least traumatic things I'd been through, so it didn't register to me as "a whole boat of fucked" so I was kinda confused as to what you were referring. It kinda puts things into perspective for me, realizing that my upbringing was anything but "normal" (surviving a bombing and surgery without anaesthesia/sedation in the Soviet Union being some of the most traumatic instances...not to mention the cult-like church I was in that had me thoroughly brainwashed until about 10 years ago...same one that defended my "godly man" of a cousin). But my heart goes out to anyone who can symp/empathize with me. I'm glad my own kids have had a relatively safe and happy childhood! I hope everyone who has been through trauma can find healing. And remember that while trauma is NEVER your fault, it is your responsibility to deal with. A message that JoJo seems to have not heard, considering she's taking hers out on innocent little kids.

[@AJisinoz]

Oh the 42 hour thing is a lie. I was a professional dancer with the Joffrey Ballet...I can tell you the child dancers are there dancing during the run of the show day and night. We even slept in the theater at night and we're dancing at midnight. They brought in tutors for our schoolwork, but we were constantly dancing, training, blocking, costumes, stretching, getting director notes, and so much more. We lived at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion for all of December and January each year.

[@AJisinoz]

I had an injury in my right hip so I became a competitive rhythm ballroom dancer and instructor for awhile. Now I just dance for my kids. I have a full dance studio in my basement. Dance will always be a huge part of my life, but I'm getting old and the bones aren't holding up like they used to. I'm 45.

[@CainXVII]

In other countries where we have sensible worker laws, we switch people out. Even in theatre plays where the work isn't as body intensive there are always at least two kids playing the same role, because they cannot be expected to work as much as the adults (who aren't allowed to work more than 48 hours in a week either).

[@jasmin-griffiths2704]

I love these long videos, they help me get through my hours of college work. Please keep doing them ❤

[@pixi7515]

Im stuck at home most of the time due to my health and i really appreciate your long form content - they really help the days go by and calm me down and distract me when im struggling mentally. Thank you for all your work on these videos!

[@irradiated_woman8016]

Tbh I beleived leah and her moms story on it's face, but listening to the video i noticed something that in my mind gives it more credence-her mom came out with her and shared everything, even though it doesnt exactly make the mom look good. People who are just disgruntled and making things up or exaggerating tend paint themselves as perfect or near perfect victims. Instead the mom seems very open about the choices she regrets making, even shows how she begged the siwas to take her daughter back after she was mistreated. I think that says a lot. They come off open and honest-and not even bitter when they surely could be! PS 2:06:46 _cries in healthcare worker who will be on-call this christmas_

[@amandamandamands]

Also adding to that is that they are the only ones that can speak out as the other 3 that left the group signed NDA's when they left. By not signing Anjie has said that there is a clause in their contract that Jess gets a percentage of any music that Leigha may release for life (the others had that clause voided by signing). If you aren't worried about what they would say about you why would you need a NDA.

[@maddieb.4282]

@@amandamandamandsclaiming someone’s revenue for life because they didn’t sign an NDA IS ILLEGALLLLLLLLLL!!!! That contract is worth wet tissue paper at this point especially since Jojo did not adhere to her side

[@amandamandamands]

@@maddieb.4282 It is a part of their original contract, the others had it voided by signing the NDA, that clause didn't get added into a contract because they didn't sign the NDA. For the girls that are still in the group that section doesn't matter until they leave or the group is disbanded. Anjie has said that they will fight it if/when Leigha releases music in the future.

[@ah-sh9dw]

20 minutes in and I'm kinda bothered by all the "jojo was a famous dancer" and "she can't enter competitions anymore". She's 20, I don't think 20 is too old to enter dance competitions or be a famous dancer. The idea that adults can't do that stuff is probably part of the reason child stars are such a big thing. Like imagine if her mum could do this stuff herself instead of using her kid's youth

[@philstrachan]

I think all the Dance Mums lived their dreams through their kids.

[@ah-sh9dw]

@@philstrachan probably. I'm sure some of them even felt like they were doing their kids a favor by giving them opportunities they didn't have. One of the unfortunate things with the fixation on youth is that when people are old enough to actively choose that kinda path they're already too old to gain entrance

[@CelestialKameo]

Imagine in a different universe where Dance Moms was actually a show about moms who weren’t able to learn to dance when they were younger and its them years later as moms learning to dance and then competing while trying to balance home life. That would be better than abunch of awful adults trying to live through their children and forcing them into toxic and abusive situations.

[@virgofairy88]

That would be so nice. There aren’t a ton of opportunities for adults in most communities, let alone adults with children. The same thing could apply to dads who live through their little league kids. Imagine how much happier they’d be if they got to keep playing sports or learning now to dance in their 40’s?

[@ah-sh9dw]

@@virgofairy88 I've always thought we should have more age brackets for sports

[@jaday7282]

As a person with Spinal Bifida who can walk (many people with it cant), i cannot begin to describe how incredible this girl was pushing herself to dance and keep up with the training. It comes with so many complications, including chronic pain. I really hope these monsters (cuz that’s what they are) did not put her flame out. I really hope she continued dancing. I know there were a lot of people in my childhood who were without understanding or compassion and they made childhood very hard for me. I hope she has all the support she needs ❤

[@entransify]

Leigha is still dancing, if her Instagram posts are any indication. I think she's pretty darn great and I want nothing but the best for her.

[@lunardivinite]

7:28 the sponsor ad ends thank me later

[@Emilieizsocool]

You're a gift to humanity

[@elom.s3873]

This videos brings the serious topic of children in the entertainment industry and every time my mind is going back to Jennette McCurdy and her memoir. (With the contract and nda, everyone knowing the behavior of Schneider for years, her mother wanting her child to succeed, etc) It is difficult for our society to acknowledge the harm a parent can do to their children and that it is not all parents that have their kids best interests at heart. I am happy to have found this video, looking for a longer one. It is really well done and you explains things well.

[@nope19568]

yeah we really need better laws/systems surrounding anything involving children in film, the whole situation reminds me of zuko vs azula weirdly enough, zuko dealt with the same shit azula did in terms of being raised in an abusive environment but zuko was the only one who had someone who genuinely cared and looked out for him and thats why he managed to end up okay as opposed to azula who was just fed to the wolves more or less

[@Kinkajou420]

It makes me so sad seeing Jojo Siwa being common in the industry. Jackie Coogan Advocated so much for the rights, safety, and education of child actors due to their own exploitation as a child and I can't help but feel like Jojo spits in that legacy.

[@katiebarber407]

my sympathy pretty much evaporates when I think about how much money they have though.

[@Kinkajou420]

@@katiebarber407 No, not sad for Jojo but the children she is exploiting.

[@katiebarber407]

@@Kinkajou420 true

[@philstrachan]

Jackie Coogan also helped hang three black men in the 1920s and got away with literal murder. He wasna nice person.

[@ElizaSimmer]

I’m sad that minor JOJO went through that however she’s now doing the same thing she experienced and I don’t feel as bad.

[@KASHley6]

I think jojo forgets that two things can be true at once. She can be grateful for the opportunities that dance moms/Abbie has brought her while also acknowledging the traumas and wrongdoings of the show and that atmosphere for children. She doesn’t have to be so black in white on topic

[@cu8065]

funny being jojo’s age and from omaha, no one gives a shit about her or her family here. a friend of mine from high school knew her and her mom when they were still here and yeah, the nicest thing she has to say about jojo was “loud”

[@notericforeman]

she reminds me of the girl on ICarly who kidnapped them

[@GremlinKupi]

@@notericforemanomg 💀

[@antoniachester8558]

I hate that my children like her. Is there a good way to explain to a 6yo that Jojo is a pos?

[@caseypanella3762]

Peeper fart

[@saigesplayce3915]

I can’t imagine how much research, recording, writing and time you spent on this video! It’s just incredible. I watched the entire thing all the way through, and from the bottom of my heart, thank you for taking the time and resources to make this. A lot of videos have been made on this whole Jojo Siwa thing, but none have been as in-depth and long as yours. I really appreciate you and your channel! Thanks for making this! ❤

[@Corarii]

jojo is kinda like gen z’s ellen degeneres

[@dxitydevil]

HELP THATS SO REAL HAHAHAH. The vibes are too similar. Sigh

[@PrettyPennyTV]

And if JoJo doesn't get help, at age 50 she will be the Zoomer's Baby Jane Hudson with a lot of rotting bow merch.

[@mountaindesert34788]

Now I gotta look up wtf Ellen did! I knew she had some controversy but I really don't know what happened with her in terms of drama or worse (like criminal stuff.)

[@hollies5841]

I have spina bifida too, amongst other things. The surgeries ive had are painful, and the risks are huge. Im now paralysed from the chest down - thats how significant the risks are. The bleeding from her belly button is a serious issue if she used a Mitrofinoff catheter - its a sign of infection and these can get out of control to the point of emdangering life in a matter of hours. I feel sick listening to the way this kid was treated.

[@Sharon-gb5ku]

Leigha, by being in that group, was jeopardizing her health and wellbeing. She, herself, said the rehearsals were grueling. She is O.K. now. Thank goodness. Leigha wanted to be in the group. Her wish was granted. She became a Pop Star. But ... she could have gotten seriously hurt if she continued to be in the group. I think JoJo and Jess knew how dangerous the group was becoming for Leigha and they got her out of it. I do not think they meant to harm her. They helped her. Because of the show, we all know what a talented, beautiful young lady Leigha is!!! Take care of you!!!

[@hollies5841]

@@Sharon-gb5ku they weren't interested in her health at all, but I love your optimistic outlook :)

[@Sharon-gb5ku]

@@hollies5841 I think they, Jess and JoJo, did care about all those young ladies in their group. Remember on the show, JoJo had the girls do a show to introduce her charity for children with cancer. Well, did you know, as a kid, JoJo used to visit young people in the hospital just like Taylor Swift does. Do you realize the Internet is selective with who they target? Now, it is JoJo's turn. Have you noticed the other "targets" are being given a break now. Unbelievable. I believe JoJo is strong enough to ignore/manage this HATE. She has a strong family who are and will stand behind her. This too, for JoJo, will pass. Hopefully, soon. Let's hope soon! JoJo is just 20 years old. She is still just a kid herself. Thank you for appreciating my optimism. We have to be optimistic for all. Thank you. Have a good day.

[@hollies5841]

@@Sharon-gb5ku I've seen Jojo and her mum since they first started on the journey to fame. I'm not an idiot, nor do I blindly trust the media. What I do trust are my eyes, ears and ability to apply critical thought. Jojo is a product of her mother and the worst part of the fame machine - resulting in children being churned out like products often without being able to develop any sense of grounding or perspective. Do I think Jojo and her mum are evil? Of course not, and in fact I like their tenacity. Do I think the hospital visits and cancer charity you speak of were likely a PR stunt? Yup, sadly, at least in part. Not saying thats Jojo's motivation, but it would certainly have crossed her PR team's minds. Do I think they would do almost anything to stay relevant? Absolutely. Have they done and do they continue to do, questionable things in the pursuit of attention? Damn right they do. One interesting thing that I noticed in your latest response is how much leeway you awarded to Jojo, even saying shes practically just a kid. Yet when talking about a child being instructed to put a maxi pad on a bleeding mitrofanoff port to protect her costume, you were very quick in attributing blame/responsibility to that (literal) child for being in that position. I think maybe you have a particular liking for Jojo, whereas I'm approaching this more neutrally.

[@Sharon-gb5ku]

@@hollies5841 Thanks for treating this conversation neutrally. We are mutually respecting each other. If I may, allow me to make a few more points. O.K. JoJo, as we know, is 20 years old and Leigha, is now, I believe, 17 years old. That means, JoJo is only 3 years older than Leigha. They both are young adults, now, who need to be applauded for accomplishing almost impossible feats in their lives. Leigha is a very STRONG person. That Spina Bifida has NOT deterred her determination to be "normal." Now, you know, a person with Spina Bifida can do all those gymnastic tricks with ease, huh? Wait ... what? Being able to do gymnastic tricks, dance, sing and act is NOT ordinary. Being able to do gymnastic tricks, dance, sing and act is EXTRAordinary!!! I have said it once and I will say it again, Leigha is AMAZING but I, now, will comment about her disability. She is very bitter about being let go from the group. She is allowing her bitterness to be publicized on social media. Her mother is saying they don't want kids to be treated badly like the way Leigha was treated. Wait ... wasn't Leigha allowed to be part of that group? Didn't she get the AWESOME opportunity to perform on stage making people of all ages happy? People, now, want to hear her new song and see her dance because she was on that show and part of that group, XOMG Pop. People, now, follow her on social media. Had she not been on that show and in that group, would people know who she is? We care a LOT about all those young ladies, who were and are still in that XOMG Pop group, BECAUSE they were on that show and in that group!!! How many shows are there, out there, now, that children are on? Not many. Nickelodeon is being talked about now. What is being said is Nickelodeon hurt and exploited some of their child stars. Wait ... wasn't JoJo a child star on Nickelodeon? Oh yes, she was. Why exactly would she want to hurt or exploit children? A "normal" child visiting sick children? Would that make news? No. Because JoJo had a "You Tube" following, she could advocate people being kind to others. She did video her encounters. Was that for publicity? Maybe. But the good from that publicity far outweighed the bad. She made young people, facing unfair illnesses, happy. We, in "You Tube Land" got to see children who wouldn't naturally be smiling, SMILING. Those children were acting happy like WELL children should act BECAUSE of a JoJo visitation. And NO, not all mothers accompany their children on a trip to visit sick children. Jess took JoJo. I guess making JoJo care about others was important to her? Maybe ... I had a great mother who took me to volunteer at a hospital when I was younger. I know that not all mothers take their children to witness other people's sickness. Consequently, those mothers are hoping they can make their children into empathetic people. Leigha's need for catherization was spoken about by her mom on the show. She was BLEEDING from her belly button while she was dancing? That IS dangerous, don't you know! Jess and JoJo probably freaked out. What do you do when you see someone bleeding? You try to stop the bleeding. Maxi pad? Leigha was dancing. Leigha is a person who doesn't want to stop because she IS a SUPERGIRL, but come on, she is a normal person who needs to stop when she needs to STOP. But ... she is a professional!!! She needed to stop -- for her own good. Her bitterness, THAT is her disability, now, towards being treated terribly by her employers might follow her to her next job. Who wants someone to work for you if they are going to complain about you? Leigha wasn't physically injured from being a Pop Star. JoJo and Jess put an end to that because they had to. They had to, or else, they WOULD have been AWFUL, CALLOUS people. Leigha and her mom have to realize that they had the opportunity of a lifetime!!! They need to focus on the future and stop complaining about the finances and accounting of being a Pop Star in XOMG Pop. Being an entertainer, believe it or not, is NOT all about the money. It is about making people, who need to be happy, happy. Thanks for caring about me. I care about you. You are AMAZING!!! Thanks for CARING about what I have to say. Hopefully, I will not get any HATE from what I think and say. Have a good day!!!

[@amberdoty83]

I know it might not be hugely important, but JoJo didn’t get thrown off dance moms when she cried and left the room. It was actually when they were doing Dance Moms in the LA studio and JoJo left supposedly over not liking a ballet solo but since has come out that she’d signed a contract with Nick.

[@Vasilia4]

Yeah this video is honestly very poorly researched. Abby did not have the power to fire cast members

[@justkiddin84]

@@Vasilia4it is presented that way on the show, though.

[@kiingblue]

@@Vasilia4 I love iNabber but yeah, his lack of Dance Moms knowledge is kinda making this hard to sit through, feels uninformed and like a bit of a nothing burger. Hopefully the next vid is better

[@Vasilia4]

@@justkiddin84 actually, it isn't. Even on the show, JoJo was never kicked out of the team. She was dismissed from class once, and another time she left on her own.

[@gubjorgm.2259]

Been whining to myself all day that I had no few hour youtuber video to watch while I draw, so thank you, I can finally focus on drawing and not scrolling.

[@kajielin4354]

I am now finally able to knit!

[@f3mmy]

drawing without a several hour long video essay in the background is absolutely out of the question

[@GremlinKupi]

I was like that too but with my game instead. I could not start playing until I found something to watch.

[@UranusKiller]

I do this too! 😅

[@caseypanella3762]

Peeper fart

[@cloverlouiseB]

These videos are actually incredible, I just want you to know that I appreciate and see all of the effort and time you put into these. It doesn’t go unnoticed we love them and you for making them!!

[@kalinaaleksandrova6072]

Watch the whole videos every time. They help me get work done instead of procrastinating, so thank you for that. Sometimes it takes me a few days to finish a video, but definitely won't leave a video of yours half-way, without returning to it later

[@dxitydevil]

REAL i watch like. One to two sections a day ,, or else the video will be gone in 3 hours and ill still want to watch more lol

[@Sing_A_Rebel_Song]

Jojo is a perfect example of the cycle of abuse. I’m not a psychologist but have witnessed the cycle of abuse in my own family. You’re raised with the culture and part of your brain thinks it’s ok because it doesn’t want to accept the trauma. This results in you thinking it’s ok to treat others the way you were treated. I truly hope she’s able to get therapy, recover and become a better person. She’s been dealt a terrible hand in life and I genuinely feel like she deserves a chance to leave fame and escape the cycle and not hurt anyone else

[@shamstam]

​@@Rylinabee somewhat agreed. Although I understand that she is an "adult" now, I feel like she gets way more hate than the environment that molded her into what she's become. Of course, she should be able to think for herself etc etc, but it's not like you become a sage the moment you turn 18. These practices take years to process, understand and work against

[@nope19568]

​@@shamstami feel like people forget that there hasnt been a time in jojos entire life that shes been completely separated from one of her abusers, shes been on a short ass leash her whole life and its just sad

[@syafeeqahisham1740]

Honestly,I can't believe Jojo Siwa has turned out be horrendous when watching the karma video. I am now ever traumatized after seeing that music video.

[@ElizaSimmer]

Truly the most cringe shit. I saw Abby Lee react to it and that was enough for me 😂to

[@CurveTheRain]

I think Jojo is just another one of those people who says “I didn’t experience that from this person, so they arent bad in my books.” There are many child stars who didnt get abused by a known abuser and cannot grow up and see them for who they are.

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

I think Jojo knows James Charles and the others are bad ... she just doesn't care. He's a powerful, famous figure and it's advantageous to be his friend.

[@zoeb3573]

That doesn't work with Abby though

[@maddieb.4282]

Jojo did experience abuse though. And can you name a couple examples of the latter sentence?

[@HazelSageHP]

I am continually amazed by your deep dives, iNabber! Thank you for covering such serious topics with such a good mix of humor and sensitivity!

[@niamh_underwood]

aw i love these long videos! sometime it'll take a few sittings but i really do appreciate them!

[@9sunshine090]

“The dads were flipping out because they’d never seen their daughters treated this way” AS THEY SHOULD. As👏they👏should👏

[@Arualiaa]

And the moms telling them to shut up???? Absolutely vile how desperation can warp someone’s mind. The dads were having the correct, appropriate reaction to the batshit insanity that was going on.

[@leahdewar7114]

My sons finally stopped crying, blessed be Th-iNabber 🙌🏻

[@amandaalbert3182]

BlessedBe! 🫶💜🦄🐈‍⬛️♾️

[@pageclayton6850]

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[@mimz1173]

So sweet!❤

[@HollieAndApollo]

Blessed be!

[@Theunicornqueen35]

God Bless the iNabber

[@StonedHunter]

To be fair to at least some of the parents, the ORIGINAL Dance Moms show was supposed to be like a one time special or movie but the network decided on the full show once the contracts were already signed. They also made it nearly impossible for these moms to get their children out of these SUPER skeevy contracts without being sued into oblivion.

[@amandamandamands]

Yeah it was meant to be a 6 part docuseries. That is why Cathy and Vivi are with the team for such a short amount of time because Cathy was nope I can't do that. The only way that they would release her was for her to become the 'rival' team. The others couldn't use logic like that to get out of it as it was the studio that they already went to and they were also locked in by Abby's contract too.

[@lux.illuminaughty]

I love your long videos, they're my preferred format. Happy late birthday, happy early Christmas 💕

[@IntuitiveLibby]

Stoked to see you cover this because your videos are always so thorough and well done.

[@abbielindell]

It’s pretty wild how many people don’t realize that dance moms was pretty accurate to the world of competition dance.. it’s not really a Hollywood thing it’s a dance industry thing that was exacerbated once the show became popular (in my experience with competitive dance/ dancers during and before the dance moms timeline lol)

[@philstrachan]

Dance is a ruthless industry

[@antonhaq3503]

It was inevitable Jojo would be deeply damaged considering her childhood and mother. Virtually all children who experience fame so young have so many negative issues in adulthood, it's just what happens. A sane, secure childhood with protective parents is required to become a balanced adult and Jojo didn't have that, her mother saw wealth as a higher priority. Its truly criminal and deserves some kind of penalty. Another excellent video!

[@dotphire]

I appreciate him blurring the xomg pop kids bcus other creators i saw talk about this didn't, shows he cares :)

[@samwindmill8264]

I wouldn't go so far as to insinuate that other creators "don't care" for that reason alone...I understand where you're coming from, but it's not like the images of them in question are private or "personal" and haven't already been widely disseminated. I don't mean to say that means therefore everyone *should* just spread those images without regard, but it's a bit much to completely condemn anyone who doesn't blur them

[@name.333]

@@samwindmill8264it’s not condemning other creators, it’s holding them to a standard. Yeah the pics weren’t private but out of respect for the YOUNG girls, I’m going to watch someone who blurs them over someone who doesn’t, because it may not be that other creators don’t care, but they clearly care less which isn’t productive in cases like these. The girls have been thru enough already.

[@EL67671]

​@@samwindmill8264imo I think the fact they're so widely available is even more reason to blur it out, we know from the hundreds of other child stars that their privacy has been violated since childhood. The least we can do is stop enabling that over sharing of their lives

[@xfroglips]

Once i became an adult (that happens over time, jojo, not just 1 day when you're almost 21) i realized how disgusting these shows are. Toddlers in tiaras was first. Little girl in a bikini with a male judge just didnt sit right with me. "Oh not everyone is a predator" that doesnt mean give people the chance. Abbie pissed me off with how entitled she acted. But i knew jojo was bad when she wouldnt even drop friends who openly admit to grooming etc. I think youre right when you say that she is being cringe to distract from the truth. Like people are saying the song is about her cheating on her ex?? But that was... how long ago? Highly possible she was finally released from a pg contract, but still weird theres no coverage of the accusations besides youtube. Thank god for youtube Happy birthday and merry Christmas Oh, and beans 🫘

[@oOSonnEngelOo]

I love your videos! They're perfect for listening to while cooking, so I listen to them over a few days in chunks until I'm finished with them. You put enormous research in them and your opinions are spot on I think! Great work, truly!

[@claryclarity]

I think a really interesting topic for a video would be Brittani Louise Taylor. She used to be a very well known youtuber (even appearing in some of shane's old videos). At one point she got involved with this really sketchy guy and was in big danger. She even wrote a book about everything, which i imagine would be great source material. She eventually disappeared from the internet for her and her childs safety. Her story always fascinated me, she is such a strong woman.

[@carlyl2032]

I remember that woman! Man, I really wish her the best.

[@primetimehome]

It was disappointing her story which contained heavy themes of child trafficking was pushed to the wayside by a chuck e cheese conspiracy theory

[@Carolyn.Scareolyn]

If she disappeared from the internet for her and her child’s safety, wouldn’t that make it a BAD choice for a video?

[@claryclarity]

@Carolyn.Scareolyn she just doesn't post anymore, she hasn't deleted anything for instance. So I don't think it's a bad choice, I think it could actually raise awareness to situations like hers. Had she deleted her online existence I'd never suggest her story as a topic for a video. Plus there's always the option to get in contact with her for consent and let her be the judge of that

[@WaitinInAmber]

I think, at the very least, he'd need to be sure to get her consent first. She may not want that attention

[@kevintheprincedragon8661]

When talking about the cycle of abuse. I remember in Savantics video about Abby Miller that Jojo was crying which Abby yelled at her and Jojo replied "well if you yell at me I'm gonna cry" this to me shows Jojo recognizes what is wrong with what she is doing but doesn't give a crap in the end, which is truly deplorable

[@name.333]

But that was also toward the beginning of this, now she’s been in this system for so long she likely doesn’t remember any other way of living and it’s become her only reality. I think there should be a larger discussion about whether she or her mom is more to blame for this because I don’t think it’s equal, her brain chemistry has been rewired and she hasn’t been given any opportunity by the adults in her life to stop.

[@CL0UD3D.]

@@name.333 Yes, she was probably worn down and told that "this is normal for this industry" and "thats just the way it is" and that this is what is needed in order for her to succeed, she has the "___ was done to me and I turned out fine" mentality and passes on the cycle of abuse to another generation one that will hopefully recognise it for what it is

[@zoeb3573]

I've been remembering this scene lately and it makes me sad. I've never watched the show, but in that sequence, Jojo was very mature for a child, more mature than Abby. She tried to keep the tears in to appear strong, and when she was called out despite her efforts, she very calmly and logically explained why she was crying due to Abby's treatment which shows a lot of emotional maturity, and was told to leave because Abby couldn't accept that mature logic. And later on, when she asks her mom why she was kicked and her mother tells her, Abby laughs and says something like "so she's a baby?" criticizing Abby's immaturity. Imagine a child that young calling you out for being an immature fool, less mature than them, and they are RIGHT!!! It made me respect that little girl a lot for a few minutes... And now look what she's become. You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain I guess.

[@mullimar000]

“This experience made us who we are and got us where we are” no Jojo, the other girls are working on creating their OWN identities outside of their trauma. They no longer cling to it like you because their self worth doesn’t revolve around the show/fame/money. I’m sorry you never had a chance to explore yourself as a person outside of an image

[@Emma-dq2gz]

Thanks for making this video and getting this info out there! I don‘t think these issues are talked about enough on the media, so it is good to get this out there!

[@LSnicket]

Hey! Just wanna to say I did watch the whole thing and I loved it! It helped me to clean the house listening to you while my anxiety was bad enough

[@laurenpaus7608]

speaking of the other dance mom girls-i need to look more into this but allegedly chloe has stated she blocked out a lot of what happened on dance moms because it was so stressful :( no kid should have to experience that survival response from the treatment they receive. especially when it’s being broadcast on national tv

[@amandamandamands]

A few of the OG girls have said that they don't remember a lot of it and most of them have said that they have been in therapy to deal with it.

[@SchizoidApollo]

Entering a 2 year old child into any kind of competition and thinking it's an actual judge of skill is insane. 99% of the time is has to be "cutest baby/most motor function award".

[@nope19568]

lol have you seen baby racing? its pretty much just that last part

[@SparrowHawk_.]

We love 3hr inabber vids!!!!!

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

Yeah I do enjoy when creators fo back to their shorter formats 😂

[@caseypanella3762]

Peeper fart peeper fart peepee fart

[@superonion3736]

She tried to pull off a Taylor Swift reputation era but forgot one thing: This is not stupid celebrity drama, it’s child explotation.

[@mars6233]

I really appreciate your crazy conspiracy board in the background, it's a little detail, but it makes me happy. Also, thank you for the long video.

[@kitkatlove89]

It is absolutely wild that Jojo Siwa essentially made the US equivalent of Korean survival shows such as Produce, R U Next, Universe Ticket, My Teenage GIrl, etc, and still made it ABSOLUTELY WORSE.

[@-liz-3722]

the korean shows have their shit together tho so there could be atuff that happens behind the scenes that we just never find out about… 😭😭😭

[@adyaparamitaputripratama2786]

im not sure if youre new or not, but i think the best equivalent to Jojo Siwa's survival show would be Idol School (the survival show that formed Fromis_9 and have Natty (member of KiOF) there)

[@icebergthedragon]

You can be a victim of something and an abuser in a different situation at the same time. Being a victim does not erase the harm you cause to other people. I don’t know why some people can’t comprehend that.

[@MichaeltheArchangel1-w5n]

I think that people should just learn empathy. If they got the help they needed, they could get better. Jojo can do that but at a cost. Not only would she have to apologize to her victims, but she'd have to "pay them back" too. And not just with kindness or an "I'm sorry".

[@khalakrean6890]

I kept seeing JoJo and her drama online but i refused to engage because i knew i could count on you for giving me the opportunity to do nothing but hear about it in great details for 2 to 4 hours

[@scootie_scoot]

This was really well done but I just want to highlight how much I love the shadow shrine in the background

[@benecras]

I watched the video from start to finish. It helped me through my sick day from work.

[@PeppaTeaPig]

You can be a victim but it does NOT excuse any harm you do unto others after the fact, especially when you are an adult.

[@uncertain_zee]

It's crazy that shes only twenty, but unfortunately that is NO excuse for what she's done. However it does make so much sense, I've made other comments about this but her interview on the we're having gay sex podcast and how she talks about her past with dance moms and everything, and her relationship with her mom - she's still extremely naive and doesn't see what her mom/parents did for what it is, which is exploitation. I hope she comes to terms with everything and holds herself accountable because that's the only way she can become a better person and not do anything like this to more people.

[@shamstam]

agreed. She's an adult, but way too involved in the industry to even start processing what is actually happening around her. I hope she gets out soon and finds a safe environment where she'll get to actually grow, reflect and figure herself out

[@nope19568]

​@@shamstamyeah shes literally never been away from her abusers and its sad

[@amandamandamands]

The show Siwa's Dance Pop Revolution only went for a couple of weeks. It was an elimination show to pick the girls who made it to the group XOMG Pop. After that they were a girl group going to events having their own mini concerts etc. They are going on tour this summer. They also went through a phase where they were creating a lot of social media content (there were also given JoJo's KZbin channel to try and boost their fanbase), there isn't any child labour laws regarding the creation of social media so that means that Jess and JoJo didn't need to pay them for those days. It also means that they didn't need to give them school hours those days as legally it wasn't a work day. Anjie said that they signed a 5 year contract and had to do that before they were allowed to start filming on SDPR. Anjie has also said that Jess said to all the mums that if they try and leave they will owe Jess $175,000. Also Anjie and Leigha are the only ex members of XOMG Pop that didn't sign a NDA when they left. Because they didn't sign Jess gets a percentage of any music that Leigha releases for life.

[@janewaysmom]

Jacket and iNabber, your videos are great, and also very well edited, especially considering how long they always are. I feel like you guys do really good research and background on things, and I always, always watch until the end. Beans. Also, happy belated birthday, iNabber. Mine just happened too - right near the end of March.

[@arrxa2547]

absolutely love ur video essays, always watch till the end and your videos deserve it they’re always amazing

[@shirokaxoxo]

Hi iNabber, i have just found your channel like three weeks ago. I like having bg sounds to listen to while I'm doing something because it helps me focus and you are my go to. I was just Re-watching one of your vids when you uploaded this :D Thank u for your research and vidss. Beans!

[@iNabber]

thanks dude i really appreciate this :)

[@lordfreerealestate8302]

Being a victim in childhood doesn't justify abusing others. I think their main motivator was money, more so than them simply being raised in that environment. They were willing to abuse, endanger, and exploit these children for their own selfish gain. They deserve no defense.

[@serene_ladyred8803]

And you think that mindset was born into the both of them?

[@MeganSpruce90]

I have an 8 year old, almost 9.. she's been dancing formally for 2 years now. Her first year she started with 1 class at 45min...this year she wanted to go to 2 classes, back to back.. so she dances for 1.5 hours, and even then she tells me how exhausting that is.. her school offers competition dance.. i can't even wrap my head around allowing her to do that, let alone go on TV, being pushed past her limits for entertainment and the hopes she will become rich and famous. Im sure those girls love to dance, clearly.. however, doing it competitively, on TV like that.. with a "teacher" like JoJo... im positive those kids dont have that love for the craft anymore. At that point, it just can't be fun..

[@figgyperi]

Thank you for such long and detailed videos! I always watch to the end and appreciate the length and detail!