Joker 2 is a TOTAL DISASTER | ANGRY RANT

[@zachryder3150]

Philips forgot that the good parts of Joker were parts that were ripped off other films and all the memorable scenes in the film were improvised by Phoenix.

[@chasehedges6775]

Yeah, from what I hear, it was Phoenix himself that CARRIED it all

[@zachryder3150]

@@chasehedges6775 The sleeping in the refrigerator scene, the bathroom slow dance scene, and accidently shooting the gun in the apartment scene were all Phoenix.

[@chasehedges6775]

Interesting and fascinating

[@AnthonyAnalog]

📠📠📠📠📠📠

[@matthewlugo2417]

Stop saying Joker is just king of comedy and taxi driver, the movies have nothing to in common other then robert Dinero

[@BenWitya]

The "shower scene" (sexual assault scene) was a terrible plot device, a terrible thing to put in the movie, and felt like an insult to the viewer. It is incredibly problematic in its presentation, how it affected "Arthur", and Todd Phillips whole thing about how "he was never the Joker" completely blew up in his face the second he decided that SA would be the device used to make "Arthur" feel remorse for his actions. Seriously, fuck this movie!!! With that being said, calling him Todd Howard made me laugh thank you for that.

[@x0nix]

i hated that scene and how he gave up after it and decided to quit the movie was just arthur being abused by everyone and losing

[@boomstickcritique902]

Even in the first Phoenix character wasn't comic Joker this character was always a lonely depressing mentally ill dude. This Joker was never going to be a super villian or criminal mastermind this was the point of the sequel because Phillips felt some fans missed that point in the first. I tried to tell fans after seeing Joker 2019 that this character was not a villian he's not a predator he was always a victim even after becoming and calling himself Joker he still wasn't comic Joker he wasn't killing innocent people he was killing assholes and people that were not giving a shit about him. He was a victim not a victimizer like regular Joker basically the point of Joker 2 was the director trying to explain this to the audience because he felt they missed it in the first that Arthur is not a super criminal he was an always will be a loser.

[@lightng2023]

This scene is made to show the Joker persona can no longer protect him anymore. Just because you put on a monster persona doesn't mean you can always fight back against the cold, dark, unforgiving reality. That's just life, this movie shows exactly how bitter and unforgiving real life is.

[@8Exceed]

I am so glad it flopped. Joker was not a movie that needed a sequel

[@shahzebhasan9995]

It really feels like Todd Phillips tried to cater to people like me who didn't enjoy the first one that much, only to fall flat on his face and drive away fans of the first one, while still failing to win his critics over as the movie is an overstuffed mess.

[@kzakulenga5138]

Vought could've made a way better Joker movie.

[@dextergray1670]

Vought would have made a banger

[@kzakulenga5138]

@@dextergray1670 The Vought rising movie would've been better than this. A sequel where they team up with soldier boy would've been hilarious and fire

[@chasehedges6775]

Joker in 2019 was one of the best films of that year. I didn't need this.

[@Blerdcalibur]

Imagine watching Transformers One on Wednesday then Watching this today. Night and fucking day reaction, I almost went to tickets to ask for a refund midway through

[@chasehedges6775]

I'm in the mood for a classic 90s movie instead.

[@Blerdcalibur]

dude I did a Predator rewatch (1,2,AVP1,AVP2 and Prey) and it was awesome. Also rewatched Commando with Arnold

[@chasehedges6775]

AVP 1 is really good I hear. I loved Nostalgia Critic’s review of it.

[@Blerdcalibur]

oh yeah AVP 1 is awesome and 2 is great because of the PredAlien and Wolf(Predator) the story sucks though lmao

[@mightguy3118]

It feels like todd flat out hates the joker character. If i imagined someone doing a movie on a character they hate this is what I'd imagine. Joker must be his least favorite villain

[@mr.robot1399]

ending made me cackle like arthur in the theater.

[@frankallen3634]

And since Bruce was 12 in the first film. I guess batman is beating up senior citizens

[@JohnJacobSchmidtt]

Arkham nursing home instead of asylum

[@orpheus0108]

This movie is turning people into the jokerr ironically 😂😂

[@Ray-c1r]

😆

[@kzakulenga5138]

Training A-Train would've been better than Joker 2 ( not going to give it the respect of calling it by its french name) Like i dead ass would've rather have sat down and watched Training A-Train than Joka'2.

[@Blerdcalibur]

LMAO not training A Train starring Academy Award Winner Will Ferrell

[@kzakulenga5138]

@@Blerdcalibur i feel like it would've been better than Joker 2. At least we'd see a post credit scene of A Train meeting Homelander and becoming a member of the 7. If im being Honest an origin story of all of the orignal Seven members would've been better than Joka' 2 ( I do not respect the movie enough to call it by its proper name)

[@christionpulliam9870]

Shit training a train would have had atrain and will ferrel

[@anubusx]

Dawn Of The Seven as well.

[@yungblade7]

They should've gotten a different director

[@JaeSproo]

9:55 time stamp - Colin Ferguson, the black man who SNAPPED and starting shooting people on the subway in Rhode Island??? He represented himself and questioned someone who he shot. So yeah, it happened in real life.

[@singstreetcar5881]

Todd Phillips is a grown man. He can say NO.

[@LazyBrosVidz]

Nah my thoughts is Todd Phillips ripped off two movies to make joker 1 and it did great because the movies he used are excellent. He made a sequel and used no movies as inspiration and it showed how bad of a film maker he is

[@kendrickgriffin374]

Who couldn’t tell? The minute I heard they were making a second one I knew they couldn’t pull it off. Especially turning it into a musical!

[@jrpgaddict7726]

Yup....It was SABOTAGE!!!!!

[@601marcusable]

Todd Philips has sign his resignation because he bombed that movie

[@henrypeters5291]

I have not seen this film but it sounds like Phillips wanted to recreate the scene from the Dark Knight where the Joker lit a bunch of money on fire.

[@sata__]

oof, I definitely had no plans to see this as I haven’t seen the first one, but even off of what I’ve been following I could tell that this didn’t need a sequel 😩. As soon as they were letting us know it’d be a musical, I had a bad feeling. It’s crazy how much they’ve been milking Harley Quinn, and they add this portrayal to the landfill..

[@chasehedges6775]

The only musical movies that I've truly enjoyed are "Into The Woods" (2014) and "The Greatest Showman" (2017). That's it.

[@sata__]

@@chasehedges6775 shoot I get it, I’ve really only enjoyed Into the Heights & a bit of The Greatest Showman as well, the others I’ve given a chance just cannot blend serious discussions/moments with the dramatical realm of a musical, you almost always get whiplash from the lack of balance

[@AnthonyAnalog]

First one is actually really good. Watch it. Then don't ever watch this and just pretend it never happened 😂

[@AnthonyAnalog]

​@@chasehedges6775 you misspelled Breakin and Breakin 2: Electric Boogaloo 😭

[@sata__]

@@AnthonyAnalog OMG how could I forget about Breakin?! Had the pleasure of watching both thanks to my dad but it’s been too long

[@s.r.h.3554]

Warner didn’t want to give him the 50 for the first film. They didn’t believe in it. They got other investors to go in on it too. So Warner didn’t get to keep much of that billion.

[@hamburgareable]

Hi there, dude! Subbed to your channel right now. And nope, im not gonna watch the pile of scrotum that is JOKER 2: DOUBLE MADNESS

[@Crest28]

Love your passion, thank you for being straight up and honest. Sounds like a trash movie.

[@backbrunson2039]

I think you’re spot on. Joker 2, as a movie, shows all the reasons you don’t wanna see after the “happily ever after” moment in movies. I think that’s the film’s intent. That tracks with this movie being a middle finger to the studio (which he’s publicly shit-talked now). That makes a lot more sense than a middle finger to the fans of the 1st movie.

[@animefan2454]

Todd had one job I swear Hollywood just loves being a disappointment with Movies like Halloween ends and This.

[@frankallen3634]

No court would let you represent yourself in a death sentence case

[@dextergray1670]

Amazed me that anyone thought this was going to be good after hearing it was a musical.

[@mikewhite8663]

And they play that song from hangover 3 when his dad was dying 😂😂😂😂😂

[@universome511]

It's amazing the amount of this movie you remember correctly but also incorrectly

[@zmoneytmnt]

It sucks that because first one was a masterpiece but the storyline of this one tries to ruin it. It seems like it lazily written and not well picturized at all

[@boomstickcritique902]

That's the thing with these Todd Phillips films he never wanted to make a Joker movie he doesn't care about the comics I tried to mention this to fans multiple times. Todd Phillips wanted to make dark sad dramas about a lonely abused victim who calls himself Joker. These movoes have little to nothing to do with the comic Joker or rhe comics in general beyond some nods. This is why this movie is pissing fans off so bad it was never meant to be an adaptation of the comics just a movie about a mentally unatable dude called Joker but he's not the Joker.

[@JohnJacobSchmidtt]

Thank you for this, I was hoping I was not the only one from the get-go thinking this. This is Arthur not Jack, this is an imposter joker... And it's pretty arrogant how they imply the real joker gets the idea from Arthur. But it's not a surprise that Arthur is not the real joker, he was never the real joker.

[@RacCkhn]

That movie was the biggest pile of shit the film industry has produced in the last decade. It has lower ratings than Madame Fucking Web or The Marvels. Todd Phillips should be arrested for that shit. That movie should be banned at the federal level.

[@mandocool]

I really appreciate your insights on this and I think you hit it right on the head about Arkham and and lady Gaga

[@Joe-zs3rf]

Todd was handing out money loke it grew in trees 50 million for the first Joker. Now Joaqiun got payed 40 million for the sequel lady gaga 8 million for 22 minutes of screen time

[@bluejaytherapper]

The fact that these movies lean on an unreliable narrator completely make any of these "supposed to" points you're making as an angry Batman fan, moot. It's not a memberberries movie. It's an artistic statement not even about an established Batman character. Chill. Like literally half of the first movie was a lie, his girlfriend and everything. This movie takes that even further, he's imagining musical numbers. It's like have you seen American Psycho? What can you tell me really happened in that movie? This movie isn't about a physical narrative, it's about perspective

[@lunarlight3131]

i didn't even like the first movie. it was too depressing.

[@mikewhite8663]

Right there when he fired his lawyer and went full joker I was hooked till it ended

[@gogoheretic]

I dont believe that Guts will be able to defeat the god hand in his current state.

[@EmperorDxD]

Cant really compare to Hugh Jackman musical his is always peak

[@chasehedges6775]

Greatest Showman is 🔥

[@Blerdcalibur]

Greatest Showman, Les Miserables....Hell even Happy Feet

[@edrodriguez4822]

They put gaga there for what. It's a mess.

[@skyseasun_333]

I don't care what anyone says... My wife and I liked both movies. You're all too critical and guess what.... it's not your movie. Also the musical parts are fine ...most people will not get it.

[@OnionSavoya]

I hope they can rebound And give us a better part 3 or 4.

[@bryguytyguy]

I just want to put it on record that a cash grabby film that had no reason to get made is the same reason a lot of people were upset when the Acolyte show was also trash. Most people weren't racist, just really upset with the product. At least thats what I saw.

[@Blerdcalibur]

Shows aren't cash grabs. They exist to keep people paying for the subscription service which is where most of the money is made. I do agree most people weren't racist but there was the typical Star Wars racism that crops it's ugly head whenever a main character is black. Then, the echo chamber is used to amplify any moderate response to fuel outrage. I would say the one thing I thought was cringe response wise was that dumb ass music video she made, now that was tone deaf. Her responses after that were pretty sane. She thanked the people that enjoyed the show and talked about how it was an uphill battle

[@JuliusKingsleyXIII]

I cant believe Todd Howard ruined this movie in addition to Starfield. /s It has been interesting to follow the discourse about this movie, but it does seem clear that it's not good. Its got like a 55% right now online. Sort of a shame, but not a massive loss imo.

[@Certified_bigbro_2006]

I thought it was a good movie showing the example of how cops can be

[@Certified_bigbro_2006]

Some of them not all

[@AZITHEMLGPRO]

yo why your mic sound stuffy

[@601marcusable]

Just saved my money

[@mikewhite8663]

It worked because it ended up being Scarface at this point I can see the dam pitch well we can go and godfather 2 and have time skips or we can go full Scarface with all these other things tied yea let’s do this bonkers shit instead of doing time skips like it needed to

[@yungblade7]

I'm pissed

[@HenryCovertsDeepImages]

Thank you.

[@mikewhite8663]

Since this is spoilers talk you have to really put this in your pipe and smoke check this out this crazy the guy who stabbed Arthur was killed and died by being chocked out by the guards you heard him die you heard his last struggle at life and the guards said he is dead you killed him basically then that ending happens the guy that was killed kills Arthur

[@micmaliss]

Those were two different people.

[@evieparada]

It was awful 😞

[@NeroSpirito444]

You remind me of King of Lightning

[@Elin-LightWorker]

And that's why you never make a sequel... I agree, it was WB style. They altso say "New York" not Gotham. So that's not Arkham.. if you noticed??

[@micmaliss]

I am so glad you noticed that, too. When they said "New York" my blood started boiling. I was already mad that he said he was not the Joker. Then they say we are not even in Gotham. It was at that moment; I knew we got played.

[@mikewhite8663]

I very much want a sequel to this bring back the same guy who killed Arthur have him fight the red hood make it red hood vs joker basically have rob zombie write and direct and produce and bring in Kevin smith to work on it have it only be the same joker that killed Arthur that is the only tie in and it’s just joker fighting the red hood no ties to Batman at all

[@marvelprince]

Would’ve liked a spoiler tag on this thing

[@aj10centz]

It’s hysterical this movie. Nobody should have idolized the first film. Good for Todd. Cheers to him

[@pipedreamteam4184]

As someone who did actually see it, please watch it and judge for yourself. It wasn't for me, but I know the 'critics' are wrong on this one.

[@muleboy3537]

Ok but only the incels are big mad about this 🤷‍♀️✨

[@markstanton63]

Neither film said that Arthur was 'The' Joker .... Everyone just wanted him to be that ..... Both films require the viewer to go along with what's actually happening at the time, rather than mindlessly expecting things to be baked in from start to finish.

[@micmaliss]

What are you talking about? In the first film, he literally asks Murray to call him "Joker." Then Murray announces him as "Joker." The news reports called him "Joker." The second movie, he was referred to by Joker by mostly everyone especially Harley Quinn and his lawyer. Please do not try the stupid copout by using "The." With that logic, 1989 BATMAN nor BATMAN Returns nor Batman Forever, nor Nor Batman and Robin, nor Batman Begins, nor Batman: The Animated series, nor the 1966 Batman TV is really BATMAN and only Matt Reeves' version is the rightful Batman because it has 'the' in the title. Man stop!

[@markstanton63]

@@micmaliss - If you can't comprehend the difference by now, then trying to explain it in even more simplistic terms is unlikely to turn the lightbulb inside your head on ... Eventually you might get it to flicker intermittently...and then you might just see. In the meantime ... Put on a happy face 😬

[@micmaliss]

@markstanton63 Obviously, you did not read what I wrote. If YOU can't understand, then maybe follow your own advice. I spelled it out for you, Sir.