Joker: Folie à Deux: Why You MISSED the Punchline

[@sorahweiss5821]

I thought the film was brilliant. I loved all the music (it took me back to the time of beautiful melodies). The acting was perfect. Don't listen to these reviews. Either these people are complete idiots or it's a Hollywood pollitical thing that they are paying people to do... give bad reviews. The film was brilliant!

[@prestongilbert616]

This is a great representation of people who don’t get the source material (or don’t respect it) watching this movie. My gf and I watched it and I was almost disgusted by the movie, the ending, and how laughably slow the musical numbers made the movies (I am not apposed to musicals, just do them right.) watching this movie felt like teaching a kid to drive for the first time. Touching the gas when the story needed to move on but when they realized they might not have enough run time SLAM the breaks with a musical number that doesn’t better explain the situation or characters emotions. Then the plot, copy paste of the original, but Arthur’s the good guy now! WOW! That’s a cool concept if it wasn’t based on a psychotic maniac that is supposed to loose touch with his humanity. Say the movie it great all you want but if you go to a restaurant and order a steak and they give you a burger, you’d still be mad! Sure, the burger might still taste good but that wasn’t what was described on the menu. But calling back to my gf watching it with me, she liked it. She thought it had a great message. She did not, however, know the source material of what the audience was hoping for. She just saw another movie. And I’d agree with her, if I wasn’t lied to by the title. You want to make your own story? Make your own story and don’t piggy back off popular names and twist the story’s to make a steak into a hamburger. And for the whole “it’s in another timeline” when can you draw the line? Now it’s in another timeline where the joker won’t ever even see Batman? Sure he saw Bruce but not Batman. People like this man making this video are the reasons directors and writers make what we see today and touch themselves to reviews like this. “Yeah, I’m way smarter than you! You’re too dumb to understand it! HAHA” you can paint any picture you want, but whose fault is it at the end of the day when no one wants to look at it? The person holding the brush. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

[@prestongilbert616]

Didn’t realize how long this was. Sorry…

[@BZLentertainment]

So many dualities in these 2 Joker movies. You either get it or you don't. First movie is about Arthur's life, second one is about his death. Life consists of success and failure, rich or poor and good and evil.

[@FLMuk]

Poor click bait review. I went in open and wanting to like it despite the reviews. Noone critiques the acting, cinematography or set/costume. The backlash is that it's boring. There are too many songs, music pervaeds the whole film and it's mostly accapella singing rather than 5/6 punchy numbers that relate to what is going on. It's not that harley is different that's the problem it's just that she is so one note delusional that it's boring. The point that Arthur is overlooked is made very clear but then we don't actually get to dive into Arthur, that would have been good. And the end is dragged out hell even fleck can't take the singing .

[@maineymonroe8225]

I watched a 2 two hour movie where the main character was literally and figuratively dragged through the plot. Arthur made little to no decisions of his own and the ones he made were manipulated by someone else. I don’t understand what kind of argument Arthur, his lawyer or Lee was trying to make in court. For some reason Lee thought “being the joker” would let him walk out scott free. His lawyer was trying to prove he has a split personality, the joker, but she tried to stop him from wearing a red suit and clown makeup to court. I argue that would have definitely made him look insane. Arthur didn’t seem to have an opinion or strategy when defending himself, he just seemed to be happy with all the attention he’s getting. He’s not charismatic. He’s not smart, or witty, or cunning, or FUNNY whatsoever. The movie was so “gritty” and realistic that there is no less than 2 people smoking on screen at any given time. I walked out smelling like cigarettes.

[@GreggErickson116]

I actually enjoyed both films. Acting and cinematography in both are spectacular. Joker for me was a 9 in terms of IMDB ratings. Fantastic film. Part 2 was a 7 for me just because I would have preferred less music/singing to scripted lines like the first, but some of the musical arrangements were good as his escape/coping/fantasizing mechanism.

[@CollinCampbell-t8o]

Lets see theres over 5000000000000000000 comics of joker nd batman. This film pushes boundaries w signicance culturally? BS...So youre saying despite 500000000000000000000000000 scripts of joker fighting batman...he actually only met him once as a kid and then died? Yea...right...this movie is A WHOLE LOT of less than significant. So youre saying after all my life of hesring joker storys not even ONE thing happened batman vs joker and he just talked outloud about his dad? Thats it? Then he died? Ok screw u hollywood now u gunna pretend people keep copying him and his makeup after his death GET A GRIP ITS SHORT OF STUNNING YES! What is this person talking about it has 0 striking visuals? Not one good laugh? 😅

[@CinemaSurgery]

What did you think of Joker: Folie à Deux? Do you agree with the backlash, or do you think it's misunderstood? Let me know in the comments below! If you enjoyed this video, don’t forget to give it a like and subscribe for more in-depth film breakdowns. Make sure to turn on notifications so you don’t miss our next deep dive!

[@latinzane]

If a comedian gets no laughs, do you blame the crowd? I guess so.

[@remymorgan9630]

Yeah, I don't care what the director was trying to say. 😏 It had it's moments. But the overall picture, aside some strong performances, was a disjointed and odd mess. This comes from the director's hubris, thinking that his vision shoul supplant nearly a hundred year of comic book lore. It's insulting. Maybe the director wanted to give a big F U to the studio. It felt like he did the same to the fans.

[@E201YARQ]

Why so serious?🤡🤡🤡🤡🔥🔥🔥

[@rschaulis]

Did I just see Steve Coogan in a still here? Is Alan Partridge in the Joker universe?

[@CinemaSurgery]

lol. Yes.

[@bingchiling9645]

Cold take, it had its moments but overall it was turgid

[@shiyongshuomingshu]

Basically, the only thing you can talk about is the actors’ performance because it’s flawless, but the story and the message you’re referring to are, let’s say, shameful. They assume that the audience of the first film consists of a flock of easily influenced sheep. No one ever thought of emulating what made the first film enjoyable - it was the psychological profile, a story. The audience isn’t made up of children that need to be educated.

[@CinemaSurgery]

Interesting.

[@Lepidopterous.]

The audience *is* made up of children who need to be educated. It’s a big reason the first one resonated with so many in that age group, many of whom connected with the themes of being marginalized and misunderstood (like many typical high schoolers) without fully grasping the complex nature of its central figure or the ramifications of choosing violence and anarchy to deal with those emotions.

[@shiyongshuomingshu]

​@@Lepidopterous.you really think that turning the Joker into a musical-one that most people will likely avoid-teaches anyone anything? When I was a teenager, there were far more “extreme” movies, like Natural Born Killers, yet no one felt the need to imitate them. The first joker resonated with most people looking for a good writing that's it. I suspect you lean left politically, possibly “woke.”, coz is them the most snobbish and elitist that they feel the need to preach and teach the world how to behave.

[@MegaDjcheck]

Dont call it the joker 😅 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@remymorgan9630]

Exactly.

[@Jake-nl3er]

Because we watched Terrifier 3 instead.

[@CinemaSurgery]

lol. I hear the third one is very good.

[@Mark_Greg_Spudnik]

Not gonna lie l came into this movie after the outrage to see why everyone hated it so much. But l left not loving the movie but far from hating it l was more indifferent to it. The ending is what put a bow on it initially l was thinking WTF but the message didnt escape me when I saw movie him laughing uncontrollably which if you are a fan of the comic character is his life's goal is to turn people insane poetic he died after he accomplished it.

[@CinemaSurgery]

There you go! Thanks for watching.

[@glenarledge1825]

People are like sheep when it comes to rejecting the film. I believe this video made some good points.

[@CinemaSurgery]

Thank you. I appreciate it.