Joker 2: Folie à Deux Ruins The First Movie

[@Alteori]

It feels like the studio got trolled

[@ParkerCS2]

Yep. If that was Todd’s intention because he didn’t want a sequel to his masterpiece then I’ll give him some respect despite it being a bad movie.

[@Ledout-c3y]

Todd kinda sabotaged his own "hangover" trilogy with the last entry.

[@AnneHathawayRules]

Warner Brothers is just dumb. This is a fact: Tim Burton earlier this year had to reduce his budget by A THIRD and call in favors to get WB to release Beetlejuice 2 in theaters because WB wanted it to go straight to streaming because they said it was "a guaranteed flop". By the way it is Tim Burton's second highest grossing movie of all time and has made four times its $100m budget SO FAR (it's still in theaters)

[@destroyermaker]

@@Ledout-c3y And the second entry

[@DarrenKnight-o5n]

The people who got trolled are the idiots who sub to your channel

[@Zero_2500]

This was Todd Phillips $200 million dollar apology for making a movie that resonated with the “wrong people”

[@Vaultboy101]

Just imagine all the Hollywood party invites he didn't receive because he made a successful movie made for straight white men.

[@Fauwkes]

@@Vaultboy101unironically yeah

[@thehoerscorral8565]

Literally. "Oh you people liked the first one? well what if jokerman is actually pathetic and even ladyman thinks he's not actually all that, and then one of you toxic fans kills him huh? did you ever think of that?", the movie.

[@crazyralph6386]

⁠​⁠@@Vaultboy101that’s literally what likely happened. there’s definitely a cabal within the Hollywood elite that have nothing but utter contempt for the white population, and the message was loud and clear for the sequel.

[@Danny-Boy24]

Spot on

[@msmva8957]

“It’s not about money. It’s about sending a message.” - Joker (The Dark Knight 2008)

[@somedud1140]

"A day without blood is like a day without sunshine." -Joker (Full Metal Jacket(1987)) I still think FMJ was the best DC origin story... Batman's from Raid 2 being close second.

[@Captain-Thievius]

“You forgot the first rule of mass media, Elliot! GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!” - James Bond (Tommorrow Never Dies)

[@ocboy5163]

Sums it up perfectly

[@n4ughty_knight]

"It's about singing, not the money" - Joker 2

[@Jamyes9909]

" One shall stand, one shall fall. " - Optimus Prime (Transformers The Movie 1986)

[@MyViolador]

-gets GF -has horrible mental breakdown and expresses his feelings -GF leaves him what the director meant with this?

[@n4ughty_knight]

It's art imitating life

[@dragomight8851]

In that sense it's like the 1st one: a sad mirror of reality.

[@PaulieMcCoy]

🤔

[@konrad94886]

it's a known fact most hollywood "men" are cucks.

[@tyhjyys]

that's actually extremely depressing

[@Garek_George]

🔥🔥🔥Joker Two won’t ruin Joker One if you DON’T WATCH it 🤷🏽‍♂️👍🏽

[@oliverbregazzi6786]

That's my plan tbh😂

[@motaman8074]

Bingo

[@AnnaDraconida]

Judging by the BO predictions, that is exactly what will happen

[@Alteori]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@oAntoniotom]

Took the words right out my mouth 🔥🔥🗣️🗣️

[@jackthumbikomkandawire8591]

First Joker: small budget, huge success Second Joker: unnecessary movie, huge budget, massive flop

[@s6za755]

It’s like a small budget meant more creativity

[@ParkerCS2]

@@s6za755 exactly

[@NrgBuster]

It's like pottery, it rhymes

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. REAPER THE JOKER 🃏 TWO REVIEW 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@MAGACOPP]

And Man gaGA

[@darkwowplayer]

This movie feels like something the actual Joker would force people to watch to make them go insane.

[@karls4937]

Nah, Joker has some integrity at least, he may be evil and insane, but at least his reasonable insane 😂

[@superbrainz2357]

​@@karls4937Well there was that one time he teamed up with Red skull than realized he was a nazi and betrayed him telling skull that he's an AMERICAN lunatic.

[@BB-ng5bf]

😂😂😂

[@TheBatman39]

​@@karls4937Lore accurate Joker would 100% do it if he feels like it would be funny as a prank.

[@damascusraven]

The fact that the media made this Joker the false poster-boy for evil white men while also praising Harley Quinn who is an obsessive, violent sociopath willing to do anything to please the Joker is peak hilarious.

[@johnmoorefilm]

🎯

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Its the same with Snow white. They call prince who randomly found her a stalker but ignore it was the evil queen who was stalking Snowwhite and wanted her dead

[@cheese3764]

Well, there is one serious argument - SHE is a woman

[@cattrucker8257]

"Oh, but you just don't understand, it's a-okay for her to be that way because we've reimagined her so that she isn't doing things to please the Joker, but just does it for her own kicks and to impress a bunch of women she wants to be lesbians with!" is the defense the current "creative" crop has for that. I daresay it's at least as hilarious as the naked fact itself.

[@keithmichael112]

This film puts the viewer on trial and you are guilty of liking the first film

[@AnneHathawayRules]

Well the joke's on them cuz I didn't like the first one

[@itsme-uw8vm]

Honestly that's not what I got from seeing it, it's not attacking the fans that liked the first film and understood the movie.

[@Lethal_Spoon]

@@itsme-uw8vmarthur literally got the joker graped out of him 😭

[@melopunk]

@@AnneHathawayRules the only joke here is yourself

[@johnchief270]

@@Lethal_SpoonI thought the guards were gonna do that to him after he talked shit bout them on TV

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

Joker 2: Folly, a deuce. Let it be flushed.

[@inkchariot6147]

Jonkler 2: Fully a douche

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

Joker 2: Fellatio dunce

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Jinkies 2: Fondled And Duped

[@IncredibleMet]

This one is a floater…

[@adlilzafri2322]

Joker 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@Hlbkomer]

Let's see how long until we get the "Why Joker 2 is a masterpiece" videos.

[@n4ughty_knight]

"Is Joker 2 a disaster? Or a misunderstood masterpiece?"

[@aidendrake21]

get ready for "this is all a hate campaign" or "the movie subverted our expectations, it's your fault for expecting anything else, chud"

[@thedog5k]

@@aidendrake21 those tweets already exist probably lmao

[@ZoeyDunne-qs3mx]

I can't wait to see All of the reviews saying 'Were we wrong about the joker 2 movie?'

[@fr0ck360]

“Joker 2, 4 years later”

[@genebaker511]

Joker 2 wasn't divisive, it actually united everybody to an agreement that the movie is garbage.

[@AlphariusandOmegon]

I can't decide if Todd Phillips was sending a fuck you to the audience of the first movie or a fuck you to warner bros for making him do a second one.

[@mightguy3118]

Both

[@Blerwerler]

Jokey two: Falling in Poo

[@marbellaotaiza801]

According to one of the spoilers: Joker two, fellate a dude.

[@davidmandel8960]

Jackass 3: Fella is deuce

[@MyViolador]

Joker 2 just like Tlou2 and gladiator 2 share something, they never needed a sequel

[@Jamyes9909]

Tlou??

[@Gomez0998]

yeah, tlou2 was kinda dogshite

[@Jamyes9909]

@@Gomez0998 I was wondering what Tlou stood for, but I just figured it out 😆

[@duff0120]

@@Jamyes9909matrix should have only been 1 film. 2 and 3 are a joke. thank jesus christ that Fight club hasnt got a sequals

[@Jamyes9909]

@@duff0120 Did you see Matrix 4? Yikes 🤯

[@chrimsonphantom]

I think I liked Harley better as a psychiatrist, who was sent in to help the joker. Yet the joker manages to get her to fall for him and essentially becoming a puppet. It's the tragedy of a toxic relationship that brought a highly respectable person with a bright future in front of them. Getting broken down till they're no longer recognizable, because in her mind. "she can fix him." while he's thinking."I wonder what batman's up to right now." (Personal opinion).

[@adsweaty]

Now Harley Quinn is a cringy slut with a PHD who was always a psycho. Being the female Deadpool that she is, she was self aware enough to realize the toxicity of her relationship with the joker and broke up with him to pursuit what she was always meant to be: a lesbian mouth piece for every septum pierced feminist “writer” that ever held a pen and worked for DC

[@PrestonStrain-s2o]

Another important of Harley and Joker's relationship is there is SOME real love there,and Joker DOES have feelings for Harley,but its twisted into toxicity.

[@chrwi5848]

agree

[@YassineFarah2423]

I always saw Harley Quinn as a cautionary tale of how normal people can be manipulated into commiting crimes, in Harley's case she threw her life away for someone else's amusement.

[@vissermatt1058]

so what you are saying is you like the only actual version of her? she has been redifined in recent years by stupid morons and shitty live action film makers, but those arent harely quin. its just some fing female character wearing her name

[@maxriggah299]

Its like Todd Phillips intentionally crapped on the 1st one to make sure joker 2 doesn't make billion so they wouldn't twist his arm into making a 3rd. Mission accomplished.

[@destroyermaker]

Didn't work with Hangover series. I think she's just an egotistical douchebag that resents the fans of the first film

[@reaper_exd7498]

This comment is so dumb I lost brainscells reading it. The dude said why he did what he did. Quit making up crap

[@maxriggah299]

@reaper_exd7498 OH NO, you lost brain cells! How will you survive with ZERO now? Please, do tell, how you manage to breathe, let alone type indubitable claptrap. Astounding. Pretending you ever had a brain to begin with, while completely struggling to understand the irrefutable sense I'm making, is laughably adorable. Now, go celebrate your victory in the Special Olympics, you've earned it. 😂😂😂

[@slenderblakchannelDarkNess]

​@@maxriggah299nah lowkey todd prolly a weirdo, he could've just said nah to the offer

[@DreamOnDamu]

@@maxriggah299absolutely fried him

[@UncensoredScion]

remember the director openly said that he made it as a commentary on a system abandoning people and couldn't get it made without the Joker label. And he now shows you what he thinks of those who are abandoned, they are left bleeding on the floor by the world that doesn't care about them - and the director is the one who said that this is a response to the first. He hates you.

[@wet-read]

And it wasn't even good. Poor, lazy writing. There are much better films that showcase mental illness, alienation, etc.

[@wadewilson6628]

He made a garbage Taxi Driver rip off that people somehow thought was original.

[@UncensoredScion]

@@wadewilson6628 I'm going to explain to you what I'm doing in my original comment because you've not got it. I am taking what the director has said and I'm using it against him to point out that he didn't think that in the first place, that his actual thoughts of what the poor and disenfranchised are in "this" movie and that he revels in that because he thinks he's better than you. Saying how he ripped off another movie isn't doing anything for anyone, because his defenders are going to argue that all movies are rip offs of other works. If you want to make sure he's not going to ever get work again, you need to make the public opinion of his as low as possible. What I am doing in my comment is saying "he lied to you about wanting to show the world how bad things are for the poor and forgotten, when all he cared about was getting money and spitting on the poor and forgotten, as he has in this sequel." Just not actually saying that, letting you come to that conclusion yourself as I expect people to have the ability to connect the dots on this topic.

[@GFXCXZ]

Had the barbie effect. "See men, this is what it's like to be oppressed" "Oh wow, that's literally us. That's exactly how we feel" "N-....no...!...you can't be discriminated against! It goes against the social caste. It was meant to mock you, stop identifying with these mens pain. They're meant to be jokes because of it!"

[@Andriej69]

I seriously don't know how anyone could've been hopeful about this

[@MiguelNdiweni]

I was not

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

Anybody not named JesterBell.

[@Andriej69]

@@MiguelNdiweni Before or after they announced it as a musical?

[@armilusassyr]

I was, I feel so stupid now..

[@Andriej69]

@@armilusassyr And you should

[@poomanjones4853]

Arthur gettin graped in prison now seals the deal of no watching this movie Nobody wants to see their favourite comic book characters getting graped

[@randomcenturion7264]

Say that again louder for all the comic writers of the last two decades that insist on doing this figuratively and literally. Bloody weirdos.

[@Grasslander]

How symbolic that after the Joker had danced down the stairs, Lady Gaga now walks up the stairs.

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

They are telling us women are superior even if they are psychopaths🙄

[@anthonylynch4737]

Yeah playing a Star is Born 2 which was her intention..

[@Mallet20]

“That was my review of Joker 2 - Something French”. Brilliant

[@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646]

3:08 THANK YOU! It's like I can't even enjoy a villain without a bunch of idiots accusing me of wanting to be like them. I enjoy Palpatine, Tywin Lannister, Shougo Makishima (from Psycho Pass) and Norman Osborn but that doesn't mean I justify their actions nor am I insured to be like them in terms of morality.

[@barahng]

Psycho Pass mentioned hell yeah. Makishima is a great sympathetic villain, arguably not a villain at all since he's trying to destroy a system that has turned humans into what are effectively emotionally neutered worker drones. Freedom has a price and that price is all the bad things humans can and might do with it. But of course he comes off as a villain because the viewer sees him through the lens of the brainwashed protagonist. I mean, he did do some questionable things but his end goal is good IMO. The Sibyl system was a level of mental enslavement of society Big Brother could only dream of.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

"You know? I'm something of a villain enjoyer myself"

[@JCMProductions]

Same with character like Patrick Bateman, Walter White, Dexter, Barry, and William Afton

[@2301WAYNE]

The first joker movie itself is very stupidly overrated and boring, people are disgusting to unnecessary saying it's good because it makes joker a good guy even though he's out of character in the first movie, Thomas Wayne and alfred are way more joker than joker himself in that movie, this movie only removed the sympathic part and evil thing as good part stating it's wrong, that's the main thing people are comolaining disgustingly for no reason, there are many villains that more entertaining as well but are hated because they don't make evil look cool like King Joffrey, he did way many damage to the heroes in a short time than everyone else and despite he makes us feel that doing evil stuff look uncool it has the same sense of humour if not way more joker does ans even more enteratianing than palpatine and his boring speeches but people hate him because of uncoolness evil even though it has way more enetertainment if you gonna love the Villains then love all of them who are like and better than them as well.

[@Shoxic666]

Men appreciate and sympathise with Joker and get demonised, women openly praise Harley to no criticism.

[@Normal_guy9]

The only saving grace is to view it this way. At the end of Joker (2019), it says "The End," signifying that Arthur Fleck's story is complete and that no true sequel exists. Joker: Folie à Deux (2024) is merely the joke Arthur laughs at at the end of the film when he says, "You wouldn't get it." This is just part of Arthur's twisted reality; it never actually happened.

[@Herandro_just_Herandro]

I love how they use "divisive" when they really want to say it's bad, just like they did with The Last Jedi.

[@tomj.7599]

WB CEO- " Let`s make a second movie for 200 mil and we will write it off as a big loss". "It`s not about money"

[@ezzahhh]

"...It's about sending a message"

[@doublep1980]

Oh, they will make money out of it via tax write-offs. This is the studio that got a 160 tax write-off for the last Harry Potter movie, which their accountants declared as a ''financial loss''. I'm not kidding, look it up.

[@CynicalMisanthrope-b3p]

It’s true-Hollywood’s been in a strange place lately. There’s so much focus on subverting expectations, pushing agendas, or trying to "elevate" genres that they seem to have forgotten how to just make entertaining movies. It’s baffling that they’re willing to throw that much money at projects nobody asked for, while leaving fans frustrated and alienated. Instead of telling stories people want to see, they’re more interested in chasing trends, making statements, or patting themselves on the back. If only they could stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just deliver solid, engaging stories again. Until then, it feels like we’re stuck in a weird limbo where every new release is either a soulless cash grab, a misguided reboot, or some convoluted "bold new take" that completely misses the point.

[@Shoxic666]

Millennial creators are too afraid to be sincere, everything has to be subversive, ironic or satirical because actually giving a shit about something is "cringe" to them.

[@israelholt4965]

I just got an ad for joker 2. Wow. Just wow.

[@Mr_Bones.]

Joker 2 is so stupid it even accidentally funds it’s detractors 😂

[@heraldofwar]

Joker 1 = A story made for a paying audience! Joker 2 = made for the press, himself (Todd Philips) and his peers.

[@legiran9564]

Todd Phillips thought he was so cute he wanted to do a Ryan Johnson by trolling the audience that loved the original.

[@Mr_Bones.]

I hope this ruins Todd’s career and that his socks are forever moist.

[@canaldecasta]

It was a great joke, Todd. You can now release the actual movie.

[@ParkerCS2]

Yeah with Willem Dafoe as the copycat imposter Joker like we were promised. Maybe name his Jack Napier.

[@ParkerCS2]

@nor-wood so? What’s wrong with him being a joker for a single film? Dafoe is a great actor, he’d be good candidate for a Joker.

[@n4ughty_knight]

"It was just a prank, bro"

[@ArmedandDangerous918]

still waiting on Morbius vs Joker Todd

[@Shoxic666]

@nor-wood And? He played a supervillain for Marvel in the past, so what?

[@charlesbradshaw5183]

who the hell watched the first joker movie and thought "we should make this into a musical?" "and also undo everything the first movie did with it's characters"

[@SkeletonGuts45]

It doesn't ruin Joker, because this sequel doesn't exist.

[@ericcartman7361]

I’m just gonna pretend this whole movie was in Arther’s head

[@injetavel279]

@@ericcartman7361 That's actually a great idea

[@kacperwasowicz5642]

​​@@ericcartman7361Well Arthur had a lot of fantasies so it makes sense . If they make Joker 3 we will find out but I hope that the whole movie was in his head

[@ParkerCS2]

I’m not gonna acknowledge Folie a Doo Doo as canon. Joker 2019 is still a one off and therefore I’m never watching its crap sequel. I don’t want the original ruined for me.

[@fallencenturion]

Ditto. The first one was so beautiful.

[@injetavel279]

Don't watch the movie if you can, it's so bad that it literally ruins the first movie as well

[@ParkerCS2]

@@injetavel279 👍👍

[@donotbendy]

Thanks for showing the clip of that awful ending with the "real joker" since I couldn't find it anywhere

[@patsponge3d2y]

no one but the most non playable of NPCs wanted this piece of catshit

[@gungaloscrungalo8925]

"Joker 2: Something French and Pretentious" 2 seconds in and this is already the best review of this film.

[@_BhagavadGita]

It makes perfect sense to me: Joker 1 terrified the powers that be. I believe what happened is that orders came from the top to 'assassinate' Joker 1 because they couldn't risk the masses relating to Arthur. In reality, our elites are waging class warfare on a massive scale, and they don’t want us getting any dangerous ideas.

[@AbrasiousProductions]

I've thought this as well, Joker 2 was a strategic move to demoralize us, especially when we are so close to obtaining freedom and happiness again through trump, they're trying to hurt us.

[@nottony8665]

what the flying fuck are you on about

[@MrDilkington15]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[@AbrasiousProductions]

@@MrDilkington15 goddamnit my comment got deleted! that was a good one too, I fucking hate communism...

[@comebackqing8452]

No one listens to me but I think they did the same to the ending of Attack on Titan.

[@EmilyFoxSeaton]

I think we need to start asking for refunds when we go to the movies.

[@peterphan227]

This would be like if Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy ended with Bruce Wayne waking up and realizing it was all just a dream, and he went back to being a spoiled billionaire. His whole character arc was just a dream.

[@darthdaddy3071]

I love how all the same people who scream and cry about how white men might see joker as an idol and a hero are the same ones who idolize harley quinn, who is just as bad of a character, and see her as some sort of feminist icon. News flash: she's not. Her entire character is driven by what she be, and do, for the joker.

[@HSDJun]

Bro is strawmanning so hard

[@richter6699]

​@@HSDJun Live in denial and lie to yourself if it helps you sleep at night.

[@mightguy3118]

It's simple. If Todd didn't want joker to be idolized he had the perfect opportunity to make him the irredeemable monster joker is in the sequel. Yet turned him back into a pathetic loser getting even more abused to make us feel bad for him once again like wtf💀

[@Jota_Aniki]

They never made it a secret that they wanted to see the traits they consider "toxic" in men be more prominent in women. It is ironic that the ideal feminist icon is a "toxic man"

[@valance10]

@@Jota_Aniki It's because secretly, "toxic men" get them wet as fuck and they can never admit that so they project what they like in men onto women and parade them around

[@ParkerCS2]

Joker 2019 was like Logan 2017. Not franchise material.

[@wet-read]

I didn't see Logan, but I'm sure it is a lot better than the first Joker. Kinda hard not to be, honestly.

[@Mr_Mistah]

​@nor-wood Blade was awesome too

[@she-venom9842]

It is ironic how each time Harley Quinn appeares in next movie or show and game her character keeps getting worse and unlikeable i hated that they forced her to become lesbian Robin would been perfect choice for her

[@Garek_George]

In my opinion, her staying out of ‘acting’ altogether would be the best choice. 😬🙂

[@Garek_George]

@nor-wood She’s most annoying char in the franchise. UGH 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Mr_Bones.]

Man, when the F was the last time Harley was in something that made money? She is box office cancer. I think the last time she was portrayed well was in 2008’s Batman Arkham City. They keep making crap, I keep not paying for it 🤷🏽‍♂️ I’m not even gonna pirate this movie.

[@ayebalake]

​@@Mr_Bones.Arkham city came out in 2011 but arkham asylum came out in 2009.

[@n4ughty_knight]

I don't care what they tell you in school but Harley can solo the whole Justice League

[@Parasmunt]

The makers of the first movie issued an apology for it to the elite liberal community and this second movie was it.

[@randomcenturion7264]

"Forgive us my Lords, we did not mean to make something good!"

[@bornon18]

Haven't seen the movie yet, but from just watching the trailers I've no idea what they spent 200 million on.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

It's been years since the Joker's been in prison, twisting Dr. Queen's mind until they manage to escape leaving a trail of blood in their wake. Now he's beginning to make good the army he unwittingly built in the first movie and making his moves over the Gotham underground. War ensues, and the police is outgunned and overwhelmed. Then, from the night, vengeance emerges... The movie we deserved, but not the one we got right now...

[@wwld9823]

"You wouldn't get it" looks like the sequel makers didn't either

[@s3.14dervision]

IT MAKES SENSE THAT FEMINISTS WOULD IDOLIZE HARLEY: SHE MAKES MEN MISERABLE AND GETS AWAY WITH THE EVIL SHE WREAKS BECAUSE IT'S NOT VILE WHEN A WOMAN DOES IT!😢

[@ParkerCS2]

Also Reaper the first film set up for Gotham City to eventually have its future hero Batman to clean up the messed up chaos and gives a subtle hope in an otherwise bleak world. As shoe horned in as Bruce’s origin was it still was substantial to the story and the movie’s ending, also mirroring the ending of Batman Begins where the Joker is teased.

[@wadewilson6628]

No, it didn't. It wasn't a batman movie. It was a garbage Taxi Driver rip-off that couldn't get sold until the writer slapped the Joker label on it.

[@n4ughty_knight]

Maybe it's just me but I didn't think like this at all during the end. To me, Gotham would always remain bleak because the rich don't take care of the poor (which is the the whole message of the first movie) and that would be carried onto Batman's actions. He would fight crime but it wouldn't make much difference to hardworking citizens or those in the slums. That's why the death of Bruce's parents wasn't supposed to make an impact. It was just the natural product of a lawless unforgiving city.

[@Shoxic666]

@@wadewilson6628 Taxi Driver fans when they see mental illness (Taxi Driver reference)

[@TrueAnarkii]

his parents were killed in the first movie it was obviously hinting at the future of batman

[@ParkerCS2]

@@TrueAnarkii that’s what I said

[@DanteCrowlley]

Yet no one can tell why this exist, from cinema POV actually, the real reason we all know really well

[@heathclark318]

They went full Manson, never go full Manson

[@christopherkelley1664]

It really depends on who you're going full Manson on.

[@kikihideout4966]

What is "Full Manson"?

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@kikihideout4966 yeah...

[@heathclark318]

@@kikihideout4966 its a play on the epic Tropic Thunder line, never go full re.... I should have wrote never go full Charles Manson.

[@NefariousKoel]

"Every day, I'm shufflin"

[@darksideorseid0066]

It's failure made me more depressed than the movie.

[@DLFLux]

I don't understand why they didn't just do a character driven, psychological thriller with Arthur now in Arkham being treated by Harley, while showing the after effects in Gotham from the first film with the film ending with Harley becoming the Harley we all know and helping Arthur escape. Jaquin is a good enough actor to carry a movie focused on dialogue rather than action. You know, be lore accurate and actually build on the first film.

[@SarkkiKarkki]

The wrong type of audience found the first movie compelling so they saw fit to arrange a humiliation ritual for them in the form of this sequel.

[@georgetentean243]

4:04 I thought the original character, as written by Paul Dini for the animated series, was a psychiatrist that tried to help the Joker, only to fall in love with him and help him escape, then decided to become his henchwoman. And I wouldn't call this version of Harley a stalker. Having seen the movie, she seemed more like a fame-seeking dummy, that rejects Arthur at the end since she was attracted to the Joker character, not the man behind the make-up. She was lying and manipulative, but you seem to think stalking automatically means erotomania. He was just a means to an end, which in her case seemed to have been, shallow and dumb as I understood it by the end, just having a good time (at the expense of lying, manipulating, setting off fires, smashing store windows and stealing merchandise).

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

She was written by Bruce Timm, wasn't she?

[@Ergeniz]

@@dontbothertoreply9755 Bruce Timm is an artist, not a writer.

[@michaelwills1926]

“Ruins the first movie” Now you’re getting it my friend.

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

"Joker: Something French and pretentious."🤣

[@SepRoyle]

This film shouldn't be made in the first place 😢😮

[@thomas_armour83]

Never forget they said the first one would cause an Incel extremist reaction, and then they make the main villain in the Batman an actual Incel.

[@randomcenturion7264]

I'm gonna be honest, the Batman movie was not as good as people wanted it to be. That Catwoman line...sweet God if I wasn't with friends I'd have just bailed out.

[@trontosaurusrex9532]

​@@randomcenturion7264 it was also way longer than it needed to be.

[@whiskii]

​@randomcenturion7264 I actually really liked that movie, but yeah.. that line just made me roll my eyes and facepalm. It was completely unnecessary and didn't fit into the film whatsoever. Catwoman was great until that part as well so it felt randomly out of character. Then I saw an interview with the actor and it all made sense. She's another Hollywood femcel who probably begged for that line to be put in.

[@coreyjoseph6114]

The 2nd film was all in his head and is what he imagines when he says you wouldnt get it in the 1st film ending as he looks alot older than he does in the 2nd film

[@pantera29palms]

Joker 2 should have been about absolute chaos and mayhem and the destruction of the status quo. It did not need a femme fatale, irreverent music, or….a dumb f’ing trial. Anything less is a deliberate assault on the first movie and the director knew this.

[@OmarAlikaj]

Reaper: "Don't watch this movie." Me: "Noted."

[@voxfoxclips8684]

Todd Philips message: "The world is cruel, get used to it, gonna [M]urder a man who we put through the most [V]iolent, mental and [P]erverted ways ever and the cruel world wins with zero consequences and no lessons learned, like those evil guards getting away with everything! But forget Arthur because he was supposed to be [H]ated COMPLETELY despite everything he went through! I'm Todd Philips, the greatest troll to the incels, ever!" No, Todd, you're just sad.

[@ericcartman7361]

Exactly

[@hammloc]

Well, it almost seems here like you're a joker fanboy just mad that your wittle sad murderous clown got killed. And THAT is way more of a problem, a problem I had(someone who believes both movies were not good, but the first was definitely better) with this joker in general, is that he's a wimpy victim. That's not Joker, we know very little about the Joker purposefully, because he's not a victim of society, he's the worst product of it.

[@voxfoxclips8684]

@@hammloc *Did I say ‘Joker’ at any point in my message?* I only said Arthur. I don’t care if this is or isn’t related to the Joker at all, it was a compelling story of a character who was abused and mentally broken, pushed over the edge despite trying to do everything society expected of him. He’s wimpy, yeah, but he gave into the insanity and people chose the lesser of two evils. We weren’t rooting for an evil clown to cause mayhem, we were rooting for a victim of a broken system and to teach it a lesson of what happens when you keep kicking down the people who don’t have a voice. The sequel instills a message of ‘be good with our system or suffer harder and anyone who is in our system and abuses their power will always get away with no consequences’. That’s not a good message. Don’t think that someone who dislikes the movie because ‘society won’ is a joker fanboy. Our system today is full of corruption and abuse and people thought the first movie shed light on that. This new one put a character we felt sad for and saw lash out to discover a new self, a stronger, yet crueler version, be torn down and killed with a whimper. It also puts a sour note on trying to even live in today’s world and how people are being treated by their own system. This isn’t a bad movie because it ‘wasn’t the joker’, it was a bad movie because despite its acting and choreography… it had a terrible story for the person we were watching from the movie before and this film felt like a spite flick to that character development.

[@MisanGlorpe]

It's not even a reverse, he became worse than the first one. He's completely destroyed. It's a waste of time on all accounts.

[@_BhagavadGita]

Every scene in the trailer screams, "Look how cool I am!" I was half expecting a scene where Gaga and Phoenix are sniffing their own farts from wine glasses.

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

based on the reviews, I wouldnt be surprised if THIS joker movie pushed people to become shooty and stabby. They should have made the sequel a dark version of 'one flew over the cuckoos nest' in which Arthur corrupts those around him, including a doctor Quinn

[@m-el1880]

the mainstream didn't like that too many men saw themselves in the character because the first film reflected the current state of society but the activists didn't like it, because of course "screw you guys" and said that Arthur's position in reality actually belongs to black women (yes, you can find such demented articles) so in the second film Arthur had to be deconstructed so that men did not want to see themselves in him

[@gsmooth4279]

I never really related to Arthur Fleck in a male-specific way UNTIL I saw the second film

[@kjp113]

What baffles me here is, like you said, the director of this film through the medias perception, has begun to hate his own creation. But it's not just Homelander. Alan Moore despises the fact that Rorschach is the most popular character from Watchmen. Chuck Palanuik hates that Tyler Durden is a cinematic icon. Why? Why do they hate their own characters that empower their male audiences? It make zero sense to me??

[@ocboy5163]

A perfect example of why not all good movies should have a sequel

[@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved]

"Folie A Deux" is a sequel title that will live on in infamy as "Electric Boogaloo"

[@mesasavage]

Let’s all just enjoy the brilliant Penguin TV show and be glad at least it exists.

[@injetavel279]

Your comment actually made me want to watch the tv show, I hope it takes the bad taste from that movie from my mouth

[@mesasavage]

@@injetavel279 Seriously, it might be the best comic book anything since The Dark Knight Returns. You think l Ledger was a great Joker? Ferrel is a BETTER Penguin!

[@MikeyMikey-u4o]

They gave Arthur Fleck the Arkhamverse Batman treatment.

[@barahng]

2:53 Their fantasy never came true in real life so they had to make it happen in the sequel?

[@jtmmmm27]

The wrong people liked the first film so they took this opportunity to piss in our faces.

[@billypratt4201]

Only to those who are stupid enough to actually watch lady poo poo.......

[@Jota_Aniki]

It looks like Todd Philips confused "controversial" with "insulting"

[@jimmorris1424]

I am so happy we have channels like this to save money to go to the cinema. I will pretend this doesn't exist. Number 1 is the only one.

[@critical-slayer]

How to stick the middle finger to those 'toxic' fans that payed to see the first Joker.

[@onechi]

This is the best channel on KZbin.

[@josedorsaith5261]

Can't get over how neanderthal-like Lady Gaga is. Sets off the uncanny-valley part of the brain

[@Lharris94]

I’m sure you’re a real looker bro lmao

[@idallas4964]

Another great review Reaper. I honestly just visit your channel before considering any movies. You do a great job and give intelligent insights. Much appreciated!

[@ParkerCS2]

I don’t have much faith in Bane and Deathstroke movie from James Gunn.

[@civilprotection3114]

Surprised Lady Ga Ga’s nose didn’t get a credit, it’s with the two main characters the whole time and takes up a lot of the screen.

[@HaveanOreshnik]

The only great deux I wanna see in a movie is Hot Shots Part Deux

[@the_aesthete_757]

Oh Reaper… you are my heart’s delight

[@GoodBad-l8g]

Whens the next fucking video? I can only rewatch your videos so many times.

[@Josh6nika]

You're movie reviews are so good, i wish you could do video games. Great video👍

[@krystofthepolishguytalksan310]

Maybe he can start doing video games! We just need to request!

[@Josh6nika]

@@krystofthepolishguytalksan310 yeah 👍

[@clearlister]

it's not about the money, it's about sending THE MESSAGE

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

I hope youre doing okay, bro. Im getting withdrawals over here.

[@THEINFINITIVERSESAGA]

Guess you can say the movie was a joke Just a bad one (More pun ideas please)

[@asaptenebrae2240]

The joke that killed a possible franchise 😂

[@LittleMopeHead]

"Okay, I'm waiting for the punchline..." - Mu-raayyy

[@catholicgirl_20]

It was very unnecessary this sequel. Adding Lady Gaga made it a musical. Ruins the plot and message of first movie.

[@Goremejy]

It’s so obvious at the end of Joker that Arthur is fully gone. More than that, he’s fully allowed Joker to permanently take over. I also agree with your point about people not seeming to grasp that just because you are watching a character do something, doesn’t mean you condone the actions. It’s honestly absurd that society has gotten to a point that people legitimately think these are criticisms

[@randomcenturion7264]

For real. We watch Patrick Bateman, Hannibal Lecter and other terrible people, and no point do you support them because they are ultimately terrible people.

[@dhmadbone]

Harley has all the agency, Joker has none. I guess in opposite world that's faithful.

[@games4us132]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I didn't think the first Joker movie was that great. Don't get me wrong, the film is well-made, but it felt more like a story about a mentally troubled individual abandoned by society rather than a true representation of The Joker or the DC universe. It focused on his descent into madness and the chaos that ensued, rather than the character's traditional lore. So, I'm not surprised that the second film didn't resonate well; it feels like there wasn't a solid foundation from the first movie to build upon.

[@franesustic988]

Bold of you to assume that I will acknowledge the existence of this movie.. and according to the box office, other people agree

[@toonblastsart8655]

It could have been made it just shouldn't have been made this way

[@ParkerCS2]

They should’ve instead adapted 3 Jokers with Willem Dafoe as Jack Napier Joker and Bill Skaarzard as Jerome Joker competing with Arthur as the REAL Joker.

[@davidemorricone3967]

SPOILERS 0:42 The songs are blatantly and unapologetically an expression of the characters' true intentions and emotions. They consistently reinforce the film’s themes-you just have to listen to them. 0:53 So, are all character-driven films considered empty just because not much happens from a plot perspective? 2:09 One of the key elements of the first movie was how it blurred the lines between reality and fiction, and the ending reflects this ambiguity-it’s a double-edged sword. Personally, I never believed he actually killed her; I saw it as another moment of his imagination. But that’s just my interpretation. 5:16 Why should anything happen to him? He’s in a position of power, in control, and essentially untouchable. That was also a central theme of the first movie. 5:26 In the first movie, Arthur makes it clear he never wanted to become a symbol-he just wanted to be seen, and even loved. This desire drove him to kill six people, including indirectly causing the death of the young man he was closest to in the hospital. Hearing him die broke something inside Arthur, leading him to accept his true self as Arthur Fleck. It was a brave choice for both the character and the film, but by then the damage was already done, and it all ended in tragedy. When Arthur decides not to be Joker anymore, the guard loses interest in him-he’s no longer “entertaining” because the sensationalism is gone. Which is again the theme of the movie. 6:24 I’m part of the minority that appreciated the ending. Arthur stayed true to himself, dying as Arthur Fleck-a forgotten nobody-and not as Joker, because no one truly cared about him. In that sense, we’re not so different from the version of Harley Quinn portrayed in the film, who wanted to be "entertained" by his fantasy.

[@za5814]

Please I beg you do another review on the Rings of Power season 2 😂

[@comment_deleted]

space ice does a pretty good job of ripping it

[@agentsmith2378]

Nice one Reaper

[@OzzyHamid-cl2fi]

THIS is the review I was waiting for! Reaper gives the definitive review on all these Israeli-directed trash movies that are getting released

[@Mr_Mistah]

It's nice to see a lot of people in this comment section know who the "elites" are

[@windws7137]

Brutal criticism and hypnotising voice