Joker VS Giorno DEATH BATTLE Review

[@xenozades]

The reason why Joker thought to use Ice Age is because he mentioned beforehand "His persona creates life...got to nullify that" and in general life can't exist at temperatures that low (which is the same principle behind Giorno's ice weakness). So basically he's just smart and passed his science class.

[@TheCrazydude17]

Which is canonical for a maxed out Joker, interestingly enough. If we're going with a "Best Gameplay" version of a character, you get to get straight A's in all your classes in P5.

[@totallynotinsane3327]

Also the freeze ailment means giorno can make any actions

[@BenjaminCox-x6v]

Why not just use Black frost then, is he stupid?

[@dbfan199]

Not just that but don't forget, The Detective sleuth skill Joker learns from Akechi let's him find out foes weaknesses.

[@chaoscrow27]

Was gonna say this​@@dbfan199. Joker would likely see that Ice works and use it

[@godhaloknight6332]

I think Joker gained 0 EXP from GER simply due to the fact that ALL of GER's stats are technically 0/None Also Fun Fact: The amount of money Joker received was the Release Date of Super Mario! (September 13, 1985 [9/13/85])

[@SasukeTurkey]

Either that or Joker is already max level. Considering he has a Jack Frost who knows Ice Age, he is probably already max level.

[@mdsystems4463]

Or he didn't get any experience because he literally killed the experience

[@godhaloknight6332]

Both of these are just as funny

[@mystrenula3911]

They take characters at their peak which for Joker would ostensibly be max level.

[@bkaneshiro14]

​@SasukeTurkey more likely that, given how they did the same in ChosenBorn.

[@Droub_]

So apparently the entire thing takes place in giorno's palace. Killing the shadow ruler of the palace causes a mental shutdown in the real life person. In a cut post fight scene giorno is seen to get hit with the mental shutdown only to just GER himself back to before the mental shutdown, so congrats giorno on being the first person to lose AND survive a death battle.

[@killerqueen5633]

Wait really? 😮😮😮

[@MrRoMaGi]

He wouldn't be the first, as Starscream and Lopez The Heavy (and someone else i forgot i think) did it before him.

[@MudkipZEnjoyer]

That was just a concept it wasn’t used this is the one they went with he died

[@epiccarrot88]

It doesn't even make sense though because that doesn't change that Almighty attacks bypass GER. An Almighty attack caused the shutdown, GER shouldn't be able to reset it.

[@memememe7081]

Honestly that made for a much cooler ending imo, I think if they repurposed it to Requiem itself being erased (due to Joker having the requiem arrow now) basically explaining why Golden Experience Requiem wasn’t in part 6 would’ve actually been the BEST way to handle it. There would still be a clear cut case on who would win the battle (I mean he’s in base GE now come on lmao) , an explanation to one of the biggest JJBA mysteries and questions about Golden Experience Requiem itself, plus both sides get to go home in character as I personally do not think Joker would just murder a 15 year old who just wanted to repurpose the Mafia for the greater good.

[@spinoirrex2433]

"GER activate Return to Zero, this is Jack Frost we're up against!"

[@PERSONII3331PERSONIIEVER]

cool fight

[@MrRoMaGi]

"Oh no, it's the Hee Horde from hell!"

[@PERSONII3331PERSONIIEVER]

@@MrRoMaGi hee ho

[@CommanderBly5052]

⁠@@PERSONII3331PERSONIIEVER hee ho

[@hoangnampham4928]

Hee ho

[@TrexGamer.]

Just to clarify two things about the fight for you real quick 1) Arsene not showing up was due to Gold Experience causing Joker’s Persona breaking and thus being unable to use it for a time, hence why Joker got staggered right after and was left open 2) Personas and Users are directly linked together. So the reason why Joker was left open was due to Gold Experience putting Life Energy into Arsene, which caused Joker to experience the effects Also, one part which I understand you not getting since you haven’t played Persona 5 is when Joker was put into the Death Loop. The scene of him sat at the table with the gun was a 1 for 1 reference to when Akechi had manipulated Joker by pretending to be his friend, and shoots Joker through the head, “Killing him”. So for Death Battle to do that, Joker essentially was about to experience his own death again, but with the power of his friends, broke through it and won, which imo is one of the rawest moments in any Death Battle.

[@MidnightPhantom]

And it's funny how Akechi is one of the ones "supporting" him

[@thisisanickname231]

​@@MidnightPhantom Is also a bit funny and weird that Morgana is one of the only phantom thieves to not get lines (I believe neither did Zenkichi or Sophia, thought I'm not sure) which is odd since the storyboard had him say something to Joker too.

[@MidnightPhantom]

@@thisisanickname231 What did Morgana say in the storyboard?

[@thisisanickname231]

@@MidnightPhantom 'Looking cool Joker'. Also important to add, the storyboard quotes seem to be different than the ones in the actual episode, for one Akechi pulls out the 'If you die I'll kill you myself' while the storyboard has him say he's the only one allowed to kill Joker.

[@pecemakor917]

Omg hi trex!!!

[@phillemon7664]

13:05 what’s funny here is this is literally what happens in the game where he gets erased from reality and by his sheer willpower he just wills himself back into existence because “Trickster physiology” and “F*ck it, we ball”

[@Kris_deltarune-69]

"Cool ballin' Joker!" -Morgana

[@TrueBladeSoul]

Yeah don’t mess with Persona or shin megami tensia protagonists multiple of them have killed Satan and/or God

[@Enuocale]

​@@TrueBladeSoul unless you are a large body of water, since that's canoncially enough to solo almost the entire smt verse.

[@SpiderMatt2099]

10:18 Yeah, if I remember correctly, there's a moment in Jojo Part 5 where Giorno and Mista fight Ghiaccio, who's Stand can generate ice, and Ghiaccio nullifies a plant vine Giorno was creating by freezing it, which disintegrates because of the cold temperature, which they didn't mention in Giorno's analysis for some reason lol

[@mas8705]

And honestly they probably should have called it out somewhere since like what was said: That is a pretty big weakness against Giorno if Joker or someone of similar capabilities could just freeze him or the area around him and nullify his ability to create life that way. That would be like saying someone like Sub-Zero could be a nightmare for not-GER Giorno if he doesn't have a means to attack if Sub-Zero can just freeze up everything around them (or freeze up the life summoned like nothing).

[@PurpleEyedMint]

They didn't mention it but tbf it's not exactly a "weakness" in the aspect that Gio is weak to it. He just can't create life in sub zero temps because life can't exist in sub zero temps

[@incognitenigma]

​@@mas8705It's not that big of a deal since they did reconize it in the fight. And I mean yeah no shit, if you freeze an animal it will die

[@cedric15773]

@@PurpleEyedMint Basically. It'd be like saying John Wick is weak to getting shot in the head. Like, that's not a "weakness", it's just common sense.

[@PurpleEyedMint]

@cedric15773 Exactly!

[@AlexT7916]

The reason why Joker got 0 EXP was probably because he's level 99, and in P5 you stop gaining EXP once you reach max level

[@LelouchOnTwi]

No, you still get experience, it's just not added to your experience count. It has to be tied to Giorno or something.

[@novelgiani]

​@@LelouchOnTwiSuper-bosses don't grant you any experience, so I hear.

[@miguelangelalbamartinez1766]

I would say the thing with Joker's analysis is pretty much the opposite. P5 has such a dense story with some really important surprises and turn arounds, that if they were to deep even slightly into it, the analysis would have gotten way to long. But obviously one can't blame you for thinking otherwise since you didn't play game. Although it comes as a bit cynical, defaulting to the worst case scenario.

[@Spider-Piece]

Lol yea, dude came off a little cynical with some of his complaints. I get he’s reviewing this from like a newcomer perspective, but yikes lel

[@hiddenflare6169]

Gotta agree with ya. Like I don’t want to hate on him for saying that, but it’s rather silly to say “this jrpg must be very simple in plot and not worth talking about!” Like so many other popular Jrpgs! I will say, if they did keep quiet on the twists to not spoil the audience, then I feel they didn’t exactly do that for jojo’s side at the least. Kinda bothersome there.

[@joshdoshmosh]

10:45 joker did not know that, he used Jack Frost to counter life objects reflecting abilities because Jack Frost himself is immune to ice abilities, making Joker himself immune, so reflection wouldn’t matter

[@mirzapramudya1580]

No, Giorno's life forms do not reflect non-direct damage

[@joshdoshmosh]

@mirzapramudya well I mean, I don’t think Joker would know that, he’d probably be like “oh damn, I shot the snake and it felt like I got shot.”

[@mirzapramudya1580]

@@joshdoshmosh I heard some people say having max social link with Akechi allows Joker to discover his opponents weakness or something?

[@joshdoshmosh]

@@mirzapramudya1580 oh yeah forgot about that lol

[@memememe7081]

@@mirzapramudya1580I’m pretty sure if it wasn’t direct it would just reflect back onto the object that’s harming it itself.

[@judemanr7814]

It's ironic how people said that this MU would be one of the most controversial episodes in the history of Death Battle. Yet I have seen barely any controversy surrounding it's victor. The fact that Bardock vs Omniman is more controversial is really saying about how well they explained the results(Minus the inclusion of EOH).

[@blurb9319]

It’s kind of controversial in the more ‘casual’ side of things but its not a massive uproar like Bardock vs Omniman

[@godhaloknight6332]

@@judemanr7814 The EOH Critisism is a bit wonky given how people seem to forget they scaled GER to certain stands BECAUSE of the game, so they in-fact buffed GER and also used the game as a supporting argument for their own argument

[@judemanr7814]

@godhaloknight6332 I'm glad they did include it since I'm so sick and tired of the same JoJo feats getting mentioned over and over again like Diavolo's death loop. My main gripe is simply the debatable canonicity of the game itself. PS:Also if they ever do Heaven Ascension Dio vs Infinity Ultron then this episode could technically be called foreshadowing.

[@no_0riginality937]

Eh I would also say they explained Joker’s victor a lil wonky since they glossed over that Giorno’s RTZ doesn’t effect Joker’s will due to Persona users (mainly wild cards) having unshaken will. Again in the end of the game Joker didn’t get his will to zero bro got his whole existence WIPED And came back by sheer will.

[@flame8786]

It’s mainly because they went with the safest bet for who wins this because going all in on ger would get very, very controversial.

[@SasukeTurkey]

As someone who loves both characters, and Joker being one of my favorite characters of all time, This was one of my favorite episodes of the show. I enjoyed the care they gave in both analysis, and all the references and inside hokes that are more for people who love these characters, and not just the surface level memes. The characterization and storytelling of the animation was great and Joker's comeback and one liner is my favorite in the show since Ironman vs Lex. Phenomenal episode overall. Also shout out to the Voice acting. Both, Especially Joker's was perfect.

[@godhaloknight6332]

Shoutout to Xander Mobus, who wasn't even Joker, but the GOAT, Jack Frost

[@Droub_]

@@godhaloknight6332 WAIT HE VA'D JACK FROST?

[@wizvo455]

@@godhaloknight6332 wait be deadass with me rn are u serious

[@heyguysxd]

Joker gaining zero exp makes sense. Either he is already maxed out, since Death Battle takes characters at their best or Giorno is an optional super hard boss which sometimes gives you zero exp in Persona.

[@comicking428]

Regarding Giorno's character, there's a reason many consider Bucciarati to be the true protagonist of part 5. Like sure, there's a big analysis when it comes to fate in part 5 and everything (granted fate does play a pretty important role in nearly every Jojo part), but that's kind of more related to the gang members than Giorno himself. And yeah, Giorno is a protagonist, but does show some Dio tendencies such as his ambition, willingness to kill, and cruelty to those that admittedly deserve it. He's a polarizing protagonist not because of his lineage, but because it feels like they didn't take advantage of it and he feels a bit underutilized compared to other protags.

[@DR_REDACTED]

Fun fact they downplayed the hell out of Joker to even make the fight possible. Maruki’s persona is literally a better version of GER because he can on top of denying reality also manipulate reality to his will and joker still beat him and Maruki even admits if he tried to redo the fight over again he would still lose everytime also denying reality is still a form of reality manipulation which Joker negates out right. Unshaken Will automatically prevents the user from being inflicted with any mental-type effect. Alice's Die form me! Is an insta kill. Joker should have taken 0 damage he could have changed to a persona that blocks or drains physical damage and he could have at any point used an almighty attack sinful shell is nowhere near the games only one. He is also straight up uneffected by Fate as he has broken Fate before that is the power of the wild card.

[@Enuocale]

Maruki literally in the fight uses reality manipulation to nullify certain attacks and joker can't do anything about it though. In the end they couldn't beat his final form they outsmarted him to break his mask.

[@Imp3838]

Yep, thats all i need to hear (also how they tanked Kadmon's charged punches)​@Enuocale

[@ChloeCommentss]

Well, on the regards of the analysis, Joker is a silent protag and Giorno kinda doesn't get much development, although they could've talked about ideology, since that's Giorno's whole shtick. Plus I want to talk about something I noticed in the fight is the clash of ideology and resolve, given that's a main connection and is pretty nice, with Giorno (much like you said) holding this ego and high ground over Joker, until Joker shows his own resolve, ending Giorno. It's neat.

[@incognitenigma]

Giorno did get development wdym?

[@RuneTacticss]

I think Joker knew to use ice because of how the SMT weakness system works. Typically if there is an enemy modelled after trees or nature (IE, creating life), its either weak to fire, or weak to ice. My theory is that Joker was thinking that Giorno could have a weakness to ice due to this.

[@thathero5953]

To be fair, if they actually took the time to list all of Joker’s personas and their abilities the analysis would’ve been two hours long. A little unnecessary since Satanael makes all the other ones essentially irrelevant.

[@mdsystems4463]

Giorno's stats probably weren't touched a lot because, there's little to no explanations of how GER works and that's the important part of the analysis Edit: 11:11 That shot is a reference to Giorno vs Bucciarati where he also punches a tooth out of Bucciarati in slowmo Edit Numbah 2: 14:29 Well yes and no. You see, the joke of Giorno is that he has charcateristics of both Jonathan and DIO. He is a humble person who has a genuinely altruistic goal but he also is one of the most violent members of the Joestar family who mercilessly killed every single enemy he faced, not to mention he is literally a mob boss. As for the loner wolf part, he ain't really that (he appreciates his friends a lot and they are a big part of his life) but he never really says it out loud. Giorno developed a trauma after being abuced daily by his father which made him almost never show his emotions (in fact the only time he cries in the entire series is when he is in Narancia's body). Probably should have mentioned it in the analysis tho

[@scnbadguy5012]

It's likely they didn't dive deeper into Joker's story because of spoilers? Persona 5's plot has some stuff the game doesn't want to tell you until you reach that specific part

[@FrancisL4D]

They did spoil maruki tho, The main twist in Royal.

[@scnbadguy5012]

@FrancisL4D true, which is why I'm not 100% sure on that being the reason

[@yerfriendlyneighborhoodsco3337]

@@scnbadguy5012 they spoiled maruki mainly just given he's another one of the like 8 reasons why joker is above requiem. given maruki's persona is deadass just requiem on a reality wide scale.

[@W-LM27]

Completely agree on the analyses - one of the key connections in Joker VS Giorno is their relationships and allies, and how their friends were integral into defeating the big bads/overcoming their obstacles. So having Joker's confidants be reduced to a wincon and a brief mention, and not even bringing up Giorno's in any capacity, really brought the whole rundowns down a notch for me.

[@for_the_lore5567]

Pretty sure they used the Social Link bit because it is easier to translate visually than Unshaken Will, which is the real counter to RTZ's will draining capability.

[@shelbybayer200]

Arsene just returned to Joker there You can't "Kill" a Persona without killing the Persona user

[@lorenzoditrolio6680]

10:52 joker simply concluded that nothing can grow in sub-zero, I mean everything needs heat to grow or function properly

[@chongwillson972]

10:52 I mean its logical to guess that you cant make life appear when everything is frozen, and gionio it true jojo fashion tells him how his power works and joker picks a persona that is IMMUNE to ice to do this. also, joker is extremely well learned genius and is the top of his school. though it could be funny that joker would have accidently ended the battle instantly if it were not for GER.

[@CrimsonGold-pq8xy]

To make it simple for why Joker won: Joker's immune to causality manipulation, as he is a trickster he is unbound by fate & is resistant to Time Manipulation as he was able to move in stopped time. Whether we believe G.E.R is Causality manipulation (By making sure you never reach a certain outcome) or Time manipulation (Return To Zero) or both, Joker's still either resistant to it, or flat-out immune.

[@anissans-zo1bc]

Return to zero isint time manipulation. RTZ would work on anything joker has.

[@totallyregulargiorno]

​@@anissans-zo1bcGER is NOT gonna work on Joker.

[@gokusama4445]

Giorno can do those abilities too so it evens out

[@q7ake60]

@@anissans-zo1bcthis is a terrible explanation since even if not time manipulation he still said fate or causality manipulation which Joker is immune to

[@SalmonRow]

​@@anissans-zo1bctoo bad its just weaker maruki

[@GazeboTalks]

While I agree wholeheartedly with the conclusion, the reasoning behind Joker's victory is one of the weaker arguments one could make in his favor. Joker's identity as both a Wildcard and a Trickster both individually grant him ample resistance against Golden Experience Requiem's abilities, from causality (effect) erasure and power nullification, to willpower manipulation. Furthermore, the concept of the Wildcard is an integral narrative element of the entire Persona series, and The Trickster is a fundamental character archetype (in a literary sense) in Persona 5 itself. The argument of Almighty attacks bypassing the Omnipotent Orb, while not incorrect, draw from (canon) sources outside of Joker's main appearances and also concludes his victory through a common verse mechanic, instead of through abilities more intrinsic to himself.

[@dlm292]

7:33 no how Giorno got the life energy into Joker was by using Gold Experience clashing with Arsène to transfer the energy into Arsène (and by extension Joker)

[@danielferrieri7434]

Persona and and Jojo needs more episodes on DB it is drastically underused. Especially Persona.

[@Sauron_is_the_goat]

And its not like they dont have any mu Jojo have like 5 other mu And Kira vs adachi also existe

[@FrancisL4D]

They should've done Josuke vs Narukami and Kira vs Adachi years ago. Now its just "Persona character neg diffs"

[@shieldofwind7241]

​​@@FrancisL4DAs someone who's favorite Part and Persona game are the 4th installments, I've really fallen off on Josuke vs Yu. I don't really think it's all that thematic a match up anymore other than "they are ghost summoning serial killer hunting protagonists in the 4th installment of their series". That and like, if Joker beats Giorno, who has one of the strongest Stands in the series with GER which is the main thing that makes the match up debatable, then there's absolutely 0 chance in hell Josuke has a single shot against Yu considering his Stand is not even top 10 strongest in the series and Yu is also a Wild Card and is on the same level or arguably even stronger than Joker. I honestly think maybe the only good JoJo v Persona match up now is pretty much Kira vs Adachi because not only is it incredibly thematic, but I think there's an argument to be had. They both have one shot potential and while SMT scaling is crazy, it's not unreasonable to say Kira has wincons so it's a debatable match up. That and there's really no other match ups for the both of them. But otherwise, I feel like JoJo and Persona, while they both need more episodes, definitely need more separately than together.

[@PERSONII3331PERSONIIEVER]

@@shieldofwind7241 josuke should fight ichiban

[@bernkastel7438]

@@shieldofwind7241I actually think Giorno could take the win against Yu, but Josuke is getting his ass kicked harder than Homelander against Omni-Man. I’m a Jojo fan and I can admit that lol. Josuke can’t even heal himself with Crazy Diamond, he’s at a major disadvantage.

[@dio469]

No Nem, Giorino does not full nelson anyone in part five 🥲

[@Annihilate0405]

Yeah, but considering that he became a mob boss, it wouldn’t be surprising if he learned how to throw hands.

[@MrRoMaGi]

GE does do the kick muda, so it gets half.

[@memememe7081]

Every main Jojo should be allowed to tandem honestly. Capcom please I’m begging you

[@heyitsgabe1093]

Joker used ice because in the Persona games, you use every element until you find the enemy weakness he didn't know ice would be the weakness but he probably was actively looking for it.

[@dbfan199]

Detective slueth is a skill in Persona that let's joker get a read on his enemies weaknesses. So that's likely how he figured it out.

[@Droub_]

Yeah in persona games there are a lot of scenarios where you can intuitively guess the weakness of the enemy based off their attacks or their appearance Joker is canonically maxed out on all social stats, including intelligence. He probably just went “if I make it too cold maybe that would counter his ability”

[@kjmt7760]

The reason why Giorno feels like a villain here is because they are in the persona game, where an identical evil version of giorno is in the game

[@skyslasher2297]

10:12 Apparently not it wasn't brought up in the anyalsis but Gold Expereinces can not create plant or animal matter from ice since nothing can grow in cold environments.

[@olp3850]

Not necessarily. He technically could still create life. But he can only create grass that can survive that environment

[@thefilthycasual6402]

@@olp3850nah he states that GE needs heat so it completely off nullifies his powers.

[@olp3850]

@thefilthycasual6402 oh yeah

[@jammingwhey2781]

GE can create life that can exist in cold environments, but if it's too cold to the point life wouldn't be able to exist there, then he can't. He could create short grass around Ghiacco's ice, but once the temp went super low, he couldn't make anything at all

[@MasuxAnderson]

The analysis segments were alright, gave the essential information without spoiling P5 too much for me when I finally have time to play it. Really enjoyed the fight. It does telegraph Joker's win pretty hard with how every Giorno advantage moment has more time and impact, plus he uses GER before Joker pulls out Satanael, but not a huge deal for me. The visuals, musuc, and way their abilities are used are pretty cool. The ending was really cool too. For the post-analysis I kinda wish they talked about potential fate manipulation on GER's end since the corner box implies they buy into the idea that the death are something it can do on contact rather than needing to deal a killing blow, thus giving Giorno an on-paper win move going into the animation, but still giving Joker the win because defying fate is kind of his thing. Otherwise it was good. Overall, nothing crazy but a solid time. Me likey.

[@emperior5710]

I really liked this death battle. I really liked these characters and how they’re portrayed especially joker. I think they did good job showing the tactical and gung-ho nature of joker. Making him cocky but also reactionary to how Giorno fights and what he can do. I’m sad to hear about the lack of interest in P5 or part 5, as I love both, but it’s understandable. Do you have any thoughts about the little extra scene at the end of the story boards?

[@Jack-lo5me]

12:36 I didn’t even think of it this way, but that makes SO much sense and makes it so much cooler-

[@wooshmeifugay8719]

1. The persona protaganists have unique personalities, it's just they're only explored in outside material like movies, anime, manga, and spin off games. 2. the power of friendship is a literal in universe power that all the protags have. Maintaining frienships unlocks more abilities in game, and it is directly said that these frienships are HIS power, and he's even allowed to bring his friends into strictly 1 on 1 fights in game for this reason 3. When GE punches Arsene and it vanishes suddently, DB is referencing a "persona break" which is a mechanic from the P4A fighting games where personas can be attacked and cannot be used for a few seconds before coming back. Personas can't die 4. I wouldn't say Giorno is a straight "good guy" he's a mob boss and he the only thing we know about his goals with the mob is that he doesn't like selling drugs to kids so, yeah idk. He's a "good guy" gang leader

[@ajn_rules_5074]

Okay, to get it out of the way, coming from someone whose favorite game of all time is Persona 5 and who knows nothing of JoJo's (I will check it out one day, my interest in it is growing) I overall loved this episode. While yes, there wasn't hardly any story-focused narrative in Joker's analysis, the jokes and the in general seeing my favorite game was more than enough for me. Joker's analysis is really meant for fans of Persona 5 to enjoy so they can cover all the Vs stuff for the casual audience. As for the fight, Arsene looks so incredible! This leads to my first big positive surprise of the fight which was them having Joker use more than just Arsene and Satanael. I was heavily under the impression since it was a Sprite fight and with how good the Arsene sprite was that they would only use Joker's "main" Personas. So I was pleasantly surprised with the inclusion of Alice and Jack Frost (Though I do agree that don't know how Joker figure ice was Giorno's big weakness, but whatever). Then, with Joker dieing and just hearing his friend cheer him on to keep going and win, this means so much to me. Satanael appearance was incredible and Sinful Shell finisher was awesome and I popped TF off with this ending. Genuinely the happiest I've ever felt as a result of a Death Battle on top of everything else as a P5 fan. So while it is subject to go down by one, my knee-jerk feeling is that this episode was 9/10 for me! Prolly nothing will top this experience for me unless they do my most wanted matchup in Tifa Lockhart vs Makoto Niijima. But hey, I'm gonna be pitching it whenever they come around. Will be doing my best and all I can do is hope that the DB team remains interested in the matchup come time in 3-4 years for the 3rd and final FF7 game remake to come out and who knows if another new Persona game will come out around the time to bring the hype for this matchup lol. But yeah, love the review as always Nem~!

[@7-BIT]

In regards to Joker’s analysis, I can see them not delving much into Persona 5’s story since not only is Joker a silent protag, but delving into the most important parts of the story would’ve required further context and setup that would make the analysis twice as long.

[@gankedirl]

Honestly, I feel the reason Joker's analysis is more focused on the combat abilities of Joker is due to how complicated Persona abilities are. Similar to how it didn't factor in Giorno's stats since they really didn't matter to the fight overall. Most of it was set up to explain how Joker was able to get through Gold Experience Requiem's Return to Zero ability since that was the only real factor of the fight that mattered.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

I like how the meme of "satanael shoot his balls" was an accurate prediction

[@MaelstromApostle]

Those bears are actually Alice's signature move called "die for me!", in P5 it's an instant death move.

[@tristanbowles7258]

Just to explain some things from my interpretation. Persona’s are an extension of one’s self, “Thou are I, and I art thou.” So when GE hit Arsene, that’s when Joker got affected by the accelerated consciousness. But the bee is funny. Arsene disappearing was meant to be him getting knocked out to my knowledge. And a persons getting knocked out dazes the user, which is how Giorno got the opportunity for the Full Nelson. I totally forgot about Giorno’s ice weakness too, wow that should’ve been mentioned in the episode. GER massive punch rush against Joker before killing him was a reference to the Anime’s 7 second Muda Rush, which is perhaps Giorno’s most iconic moment. In the Manga, it was a 7 page Muda Rush. I can understand that I could’ve been more dynamic, but that Muda Rush was definitely a necessity to have. I actually really love your interpretation of Joker escaping the death loop. I’m sure it’s meant to be Joker using the power of friendship to revive since that is what the analysis mentioned. However, Joker escaping the death loop by defying its fate with his Will of Revellion is sooooooooo much cooler. And it mimics a similar moment in P5, especially since Levensia makes a quick cameo to further drive in that reference. And last bit, Giorno 100% did not hear Joker say “Checkmate” the first time since he said that while in accelerated conscious. So imagining Giorno thinking “when was the first time you sai-“ then dying is funny to me.

[@for_the_lore5567]

I think they used the Social Link to revive him cause it would be easier to visualize than Satanael's passive abilities Unshaken Will and Survival Trick, which would protect him from RTZ's will draining ability and allow him to survive an insta-death attack with 1 HP respectively.

[@lazy3385]

Arsene didn't really die. In P4A, when a Persona takes enough damage, they go into this remission state where the user can't call upon them for a while. Unsure how this would affect a wildcard with multiple Personas (Since Yu only uses Izanagi in P4A), but yeah, Personas only really die when their user dies.

[@Silverwind87]

In the Game Over sequence after GER KO's Joker, I'd have included some shots of Joker dying in other situations, both as a student and as a Phantom Thief, to signify that he's caught in a death loop. I did predict that Joker was gonna break out of GER's death loop, but it didn't really look like a death loop in the same way as when Thanos got caught in Darkseid's Omega Sanction. Like, here are some things I would have liked to see: Joker getting vaporized by Galeem, being crushed by past Shadows, actually getting shot in that Game Over sequence (I won't go into any more details because those are some major spoilers). But, I could understand if the animation limitations prevented them from doing a more detailed death loop. And I do agree, I believe Joker did die from GER but he just got better.

[@memememe7081]

I fucking love this fight honestly and they did the best they could do with the complications that came up but I do believe this fight deserved to be in another season tbh, neither characters got to show off a lot of their full potential and the sprite work was amazing but a little janky when put into action. Edit: Also I will add on I don’t really remember Giorno really getting up close and personal himself in his fights, the only punching ghost Jojos I recall doing that is Josuke Jolyne Gappy Jotaro and Johnny to some extent, however in the JJBA Part 3 arcade game, tag teaming with your stand with tandems is indeed a thing so, honestly I found that party pretty fucking awesome, do wish it was closer to the storyboards though.

[@Rose_Petals12]

Your interpretation of Joker breaking out of the death loop is actually pretty good, not to mention it actually fits within the narrative of Persona 5. One of the biggest themes of it is rebellion, and the willpower that a rebel holds. In this moment, Joker was effectively put into a "prison" of infinite death, but with his rebellious will, and the support of his friends, he completely broke free of this "prison."

[@DynamiteRyper]

Joker’s special challenge fight in P3R gives you 0xp, so extremely challenging optional fights giving you no experience & a small amount of money is actually fairly consistent to be honest.

[@KarpuBea]

12:39 Joker did not get put in the death loop here, he did in fact use the social links allowing you to come back from near death/suspended thing as a reference to the moments in the games when it happens

[@nikeiyomiuri2728]

He totally did, why else would they bring up the death loop if they aren’t going to use it in the fight

[@cedric15773]

@@nikeiyomiuri2728 Why else would they bring up social links if they aren't going to use it in the fight?

[@nikeiyomiuri2728]

@@cedric15773 Social links were in the fight, that's what allowed Joker to break out of the death loop

[@Hyperneosonic97]

He did though; that's why the damage he took read infinity.

[@WeebSenpai2431]

Talking about Joker's analysis, I know it seems short but Joker's story, for the most part, is central in 3 arcs (the first arc, and the last 2 arcs. Maruki's on top of that when mentioning Royal) which they covered pretty accurately without going too deep or crazy. The rest of the arcs in the game, much like Persona 4, focus on other party members and their stories. I know you did bring up how they didn't mention Giorno's weakness to ice but also to add to this, Ice Age is one of the strongest Ice attacks in the series and also implies that Jack Frost is lvl 99 here. You're also right that you dont get any exp when your lvl 99 (like mentioned before, Jack Frost being lvl 99 and having Ice Age implies that Joker is lvl 99).

[@opadrip]

Some people are quick to call bullshit on EoH being used as supporting evidence that GER isn't some ultimate hax ability, but they don't say anything about scaling GER to Made in Heaven because of ASB.

[@for_the_lore5567]

Nuxanor actually called it out in his reaction, even though he was salty the whole video through lol

[@rednessgod5729]

He CAN make life from sun zero ice, but that life needs to be able to survive such temperatures.

[@1mrcow143]

As a massive Persona 5 fan, this episode was basically everything I wanted from a Joker episode. This episode is one of my new favorites of all time!

[@bubble_ross]

10:51 Joker is super perceptive about finding out enemies weaknesses in battle. even disregarding that, it's totally believable that Joker would cycle through all his elemental attacks until he finds one that does something

[@Syrius_Li]

no one has mentioned it get but i love how Gold Experience punches sound like machine gun fire like they do in the anime. cool touch

[@milkman0124]

Id say its an A tier episode with an S tier soundtrack

[@kyleflanagan963]

I think the reason for the barebones story analysis for Persona 5 isn't because it's a super basic, barebones story. It's kind of the opposite. It's such a huge, kind of convoluted story with so many moving parts with bits that seem totally unimportant ending up crucial to the overarcing plot. For them to give even the most barebones overview of it in a way that makes ANY sense at all would probably double the length of Joker's analysis at least. I love it, but by the gods, it's DENSE.

[@mas8705]

The thing with the Bees is basically what Giorno does all the time in his series. The idea that he can turn the inanimate objects into living creatures and have the perfect execution to it. The Bees was a fun way to show it here, but you had other things like "Turning an object into a poisonous snake to track down and bite the stand user" and even "Shooting a guy in the head and having the bullet turn into a beetle to emerge out of the guy's head". It is a fun time and honestly this definitely was an enjoyable episode to watch (in spite of how one sided it was). You let Giorno show what he can do while you give the Joker fans what they want to see. And how in the end, those who put too much focus on GER did forget that Joker did have a means to actually overwrite it because of course he did. I was ok with Bardock vs Omniman, but this definitely felt like the opening to a new season.

[@benjaminjara7312]

After seeing your ending clip, it reminded me that "Oh yeah, they're still mere teens in the real world"

[@Lordlos9]

So the way the fight is starting, if you know about persona 5 joker basically entered giorno's palace. Also joker was slowed in time because of the clash with arsene. The Teddy bear's are Alice's ultimate attack in p5 but it's up to preference if you find them out of place or w.e. I didn't even know about the ice weakness, nor did death battle explain it but joker clearly figured it out using intelligence. He sees he can create life, what can pause life? A literal ice age. Joker probably did die but if you look at the lines on his face, his will power was drained to zero as well and basically his friends brought him back from the brink. The 0 exp is probably a reference to return to 0.

[@comfyghost]

"maybe joker's story is that bare bones" actually it's the opposite, it's to long and layered to satisfyingly cover, and considering not even persona fans give joker enough credit on how strong he is, as a persona fan i am much more happy with them focusing on his feats than trying and failing to cover his story.

[@godhaloknight6332]

Putting this in another comment, but I just LOVE how they focused and showcased Golden Experience's abilities pre-Requium. Looking into GER and finding out first-hand how much of a HEADACHE it is to scale RTZ and how big its scale is (please don't I hated every second of it lmao), it's really nice how there was a huge focus on GE's standard abilities, and how creative they can get with it. It's better than those VS Animations that have Giorno start with GER off the bat, as that takes me out of the fight immediately and know that's all they're gonna focus on. Even if GER's the main focus of the verdict, I still appreciate how much they showcased GE's normal abilities in the fight. (God, that piano though in the track when GER DOES appear? MMMMM, you get one point GER, just one)

[@WholeWheatDough]

I like both franchises and though I don’t think the outcome is accurate because the Jojo game isn’t cannon, I couldn’t care less because I had so much fun just enjoying the fight and breakdowns.

[@reececollins9212]

It might not reach the highest highs of Death Battle but this episode is my 2nd favourite episode right behind Xeno Trunks vs Archie Silver. It doesn’t take the top spot due to the analysis not being good but the fight made me really happy.

[@robmacher3253]

3:12 Well, while P5 has a rather packed story with a lot of notable characters that could have easilly made Joker's analysis keep on for too long if they tried to emphisize the plot more, you're honestly kinda right about Joker as a character. While his side bars have a few funny gags about small gameplay touches on his character such as his like for older women (6 out of 10 of his potential girlfriends being older then him to varying degrees), his dislike for chalk (there's a teacher that constantly throws chalk at him because he believes Joker isn't paying attention in class) and "surviving the Valentine's Day massacre" being in his feats section (in case you don't know, Joker gets his ass kicked on Valentine's Day if he has more then 1 girlfriend by that point), he's mostly a self insert protagonist in P5 and unlike Makoto Yuki and Yu Narukami he's not given much of an established personality in spin offs either because he's usually kept as a silent self insert. Heck, even the anime adaptation keeps him relatively bland from what i've heard (haven't seen the P5 anime as of yet, just going off of what i've heard about it from other Persona fans), which is odd to me given that the expansion on Yu's character was one of the most well liked things about the P4 anime.

[@Skynetbear]

7:50 So Arsene isn’t dead, when Persona’s are over powered they become shattered and eventually come back. That’s why after Joker’s consciousness returns to his body he seems like he has a headache, because when the Persona is shattered the user feels it and becomes winded until that Persona eventually comes back They discussed it briefly over some Persona fighting game footage

[@Syrius_Li]

i think it was a pretty good episode, but i did wish they mentioned how Jokers will couldn’t be changed cause of the person he is. maybe they did in a black box but i didn’t see it

[@PurpleEyedMint]

Joker changing your heart doesnt necessarily mean youre a villain. He changes the hearts of people who become distorted. For example, Maruki creating an alternate universe where characters who died are still alive was a distorted desire because Maruki was refusing to accept a world where people suffered. Theres also cases of people becoming fans to the point of obsession. That obsession while not necessarily villainous is a distortion.

[@yolomasta6940]

I liked the fight but i feel like they couldve put more of their personality into the battle, despite alot of people saying Giorno and Joker not really havin personality, there is a anime for Persona 5 that does give Joker a "canon" personality and Giorno despite being a static character development wise, does have like his own philosophies and morals that make him alot more interesting than he was shown to be in the battle.

[@mechamanw668]

Something to add on the Storyboards bit, you never mentioned the way it ends. For this battle to work realistically, Joker would have to fight Giorno's shadow in the Metaverse, which it's implied what he did. It's been a while since I played P5 so I may be foggy on how it works, but when you kill someone's shadow in the Metaverse, that person's mind gets crushed and they're essentially left in a vegetative state (correct me if I'm wrong, please) In the storyboard's ending, it show's the real Giorno actually succumbing to the effects of his shadow dying, just for the real GER to negate that effect. This makes Giorno one of the only losers to not really die in a Death Battle, technically

[@CottonArsonist]

You're right about the top, albeit i'm pretty sure it does outright kill them. Also whilst it was planned, you can effectively choose whether he died or not since it wasn't in the final episode.

[@Redacted2525]

Giorno can’t make lifeforms that can’t survive the environment. In fact in part 5 we actually see that exact situation and the most he could do was make some moss and that wouldn’t really help if he was frozen solid.

[@aronsmith3417]

i like the interpretation of how joker escaped the death loop, and that it only failed because of the point and time he was sent back to that being a point where pancake boy was taking the time to revel in his supposed victory.

[@derpythetroll16video8]

Giorno acting like an asshole makes sense since this takes place in a Palace where this is apparently Shadow Giorno (which also means that the version Joker fought was literally stronger than the original). Shadows Selves tend to act like assholes.

[@marcierex4547]

Funny enough this fight was good but was overshined by the peak we recieved later😭🙏

[@lordarmon9560]

For the character of Joker,the modern Persona games are 50% visual novel/dating sim and 50% JRPG. You have a calendar with story progression at specific dates, and everything you do in the meantime is your choice. Your dialog options,who you choose to interact with,and what stats you choose to upgrade all take a time slot.Even certain game mechanics are locked behind or massively upgraded by friendship levels.

[@einekartoffel2490]

Do you think they should have supplementary notes for the animatics? To circumvent most visual miscommunication. I mean, I don't know their production process, so maybe they do have those.

[@fakhriyusufm5489]

10:52 Well, from the experience of fighting Shadow until the Third Semester and the following years🗿

[@nobbymcnobs8721]

Its sooooo hard to be invested in two characters who are dogshit when it comes to scaling being bashed together like dolls Bowser vs eggman was SUCH a palate cleanser

[@duskgaming18]

In regards to why Joker used Jack Frost's Ice Age attack, it was likely cause he wanted to fully shut down Gold Experience's ability, as in, GE wouldn't be able to pump life energy into anything period no matter what the object is. There are Personas that full on shut down opponent's abilities. Whether that was the case idk, cause I'm not familiar with if Jack Frost is one of those Personas that can just be like "You're not allowed to do your signaturw stuff."

[@dbfan199]

Ice age was used because Golden experience can not create life at -100 C.

[@Hyperneosonic97]

It was used because life generally can't exist at extremely low temperatures. Ghiaccio also used that exact strategy, forcing Giorno to only create a type of grass that could withstand it.

[@TheBritishSn0rlax]

13:57 in p5 when joker hits lv 99 he still earns xp, though he can't get any himself, but his personas do, so i think death battle either forgot about that, they made each persona lv 99 (still should earn xp but not gain it but understandable to think he just wouldnt get any) Or just made giorno worth no xp but a lot of cash like wealth hands in p4 and iirc treasure demons in 5

[@floatingf8783]

Video starts at 2:17

[@ivrydice0954]

19:29 Anyone else thought this Nem trying to showcase Joker with the mf who reflects physical equipped?

[@redlink8734]

The reason Arsene disappears is because Persona can be broken. Which only affects Jokers stamina, they mentioned that in Jokers analysis in regards to fighting game and manga thought. He basically just returned Arsene to Joker and then Joker switched out Persona's to Alice. Plus Joker literally says that he brings out Jack Frost to counter its life creation abilities.

[@JoeStinker-ip9mr]

As a jojo glazer I’m quite fine with it

[@JoeStinker-ip9mr]

The music was hype

[@wilfridekoue1405]

same here at least it wasn't as bad as Bardock vs Omni-Man fight

[@reflex9238]

Super late to this, but describing Giorno as a lonewolf type character would be accurate, as he really has no personality to him, he helps occasionally, heck I don't even think he has many lines throughout Part 5 and many other side characters easily surpass him on the amount of lines he gets in the part.

[@water2770]

This is the kind of battle that is decided on one factor and that is whether or not GER works, and that is determined by a ton of different factors. For instance does Giorno have a shadow/palace allowing them to fight in the metaverse? Would Giorno having the shadow/palace boost him in anyway considering the power level of the shadows is considerably stronger than the people they are based on. If it was Joker Real Life vs Giorno would Joker be able to do half the things he could in the metaverse (I think he probably can't or else he'd never need to use a train/car to get from place to place). How does the mechanics of GER work exactly and would Almighty really counter return to 0? One other bit of scaling that didn't make sense was saying "Joker can tank a shooting star going a million times faster than the speed of light!" in a turn based rpg. Based on scaling the numbers alone wouldn't that mean base Joker with just a knife could rend the planet in twain at the start of the game if he aimed at the ground or something like that? and considering the whole rpg part of the rpg takes place in a metaverse where perception dictates a lot shouldn't that throw a monkey wrench in scaling anything when the phantom thieves could just go "Nah, no way it could be THAT bad"

[@dbfan199]

I don't see why they wouldn't just scale shadow Giorno based off Real Giorno. yes technically he would be stronger, but VS debates take the character's at their peak. So it'd be weird to give him an ambigious buff just to make the fight work. "Based on scaling the numbers alone wouldn't that mean base Joker with just a knife could rend the planet in twain at the start of the game if he aimed at the ground or something like that?" Attack potency doesn't always equate to destructive capability. IE the strenght at which joker is hitting doesn't mean how much destructive potential his attacks have. Also I'd like to point out morning star was Joker's own move. And it's a move preformed by a persona weaker then Satanael, and a Persona yaldaboth can overpower. Yadaboth who joker withstood several blows from.

[@brandongreen4439]

For clarity's sake, Alice's unique skill, Die For Me! Does have those exploding teddies as the visual representation. It's also a potential instant-kill, meaning Joker was going for the throat after getting his shit rocked but having that plan countered by the beanstalks.

[@Neutra77]

While I greatly enjoyed the episode, I do have 2 major complaints: 1. The analyses. Joker's in particular was way too vs focused and should have taken the time to acknowledge more of his journey (at least in the vanilla P5). Talk about how he constantly reached out to people struggling and oppressed like him (confidants). Mention how he found and beat the politician that ruined his life in a sick 1v1. Even just touching on the conflict with Yaoldaboath a bit more could have saved it, as it would have shown more of Joker's ideology. Even then, some of the vs stuff which could have been relevant to the fight was skipped. Stuff like Repel Phys (auto-reflect) or ailments like rage (forced to only attack) or forget (sealing away GER) could have been brutal for Giorno, and yet are ignored. As for Giorno, they just needed to put more emphasis on his brutal yet righteous sense of justice, his connection with Team Bucciarati and the ice weakness for his life creation. 2.The death loop. The one shot of Joker in the interrogation room, showing a time he faked his death as now coming true, is really cool and well animated, but they could have gone so much harder with it. Show him die multiple times or do what the corner box in the results suggested and have him briefly sojourn to the Velvet Room, where he fuses Satanael (instead of just summoning him, meaning he could have ended the fight right from the beginning).

[@tristanbowles7258]

In the Death Loop scene, we actually do see Lavenza in blue butterfly form and hear her speak saying “I art thou, and thou art I” so I fully believe its implied Joker popping in the Velvet room to get Satinial real quick. Actually showing it, as well as a full on death loop, would’ve felt like a bit of a pace breaker for me.

[@mesiagamer5217]

Gorno carried his friends. Joker was suported by all of his friends. that's the differences neither was alone though Gorno was held above as a god while joker stood next his friends.

[@TheGDFProject]

If you check the Transcript on the wiki it says that Joker is Stuck in the death loop like you wanted.

[@SanteeSherminator]

I feel the same way-the lack of detail regarding stats and story really rubbed me the wrong way

[@unknownbasic57]

The Spanish part is “the devil doesn’t want to use pants in my house and I don’t know why” also good job on your spanish

[@flomegames7662]

I do kinda agree on the analyzes and conclusion. I do think jokers is better if you've played the game but it's still a little underwhelming. But the fight THE FIGHT it's so good I love this fight. One of the best endings ever and the rest is still full of fun references and cool interactions between their powers. Also yeah I'm pretty sure he gained 0xp because he is already max level but I could be wrong. also im pretty sire your interpretation of the death loop vit it correct they literally show jokers health heach zero with an infinity simble he definitely was in the death loop imo

[@lozo1006]

Yeah I do agree that this felt very skewed. But not exactly wrong. It felt like a very what matters in the fight instead of selling you on the characters kinda death battle. Like Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter as a good example. Here you basically get a idea of Persona but not really anything of Giorno or even the arrow which is a major player for Giorno in general. Tho the big one for me is the black boxes. Correction tho for death battle. Creator of Jojo supervised the story not created it for Eyes. Not that it matters too much in this case. One is knowing that Death Battle rules that some stuff in Jojo does just beat out GER which. I find neat just cause yeah. That stuff would actually bypass it from what I understand of the community. Tho for Joker the moment they ruled that personas like Jack Frost or Lucifer will use SMT scaling is insane. Basically Persona protags just have Shiva's canonical universe destruction and creation in their back pocket. P1 Protag whos basically a jobber by Megaten or basically SMT and Persona has greater feats then most of Dragon Ball.

[@samherrera2926]

They needed to focus more on jokers development and improvement over the story. Id definitely prefer this battle to be in 3d. The requiem moment could have been so much better to me

[@Redacted2525]

The way I saw that scene was that while everything was happening in the metaverse giorno just decided to send one of his guys to fucking dome joker while he’s defenceless

[@dbfan199]

that doesn't make sense. Joker physically travels into the metaverse. there is no defenceless body left behind.

[@Redacted2525]

@ my bad. In my defence I never played persona before i just assumed it was like a dream world

[@Dario-uj6qo]

It was a fine episode but I would make some things diferently. I feel death battle episodes could benefit from being 1 or 2 minutes longer and it could be the reason why I saw somr people feel it being rushed or lacking and the episode leaves me with some doubts. Not trying to argue the conclusion is wrong, I dont care that much due to the controversy, me not having played Persona yet and everyone will have its own takes so it is an aspect i dont care about but it i think something the episode needed was to give a good reasoning as to why they decide the winner yet it gives some questions: if the fight takes place at the metaverse wouldnt Giorno be able to also draw power from it? Wouldnt the social link stuff and Satanael count as outside help? What would happen if Joket hit Giorno's life forms with almighty abilities? Etc... perhaps Persona players already know the answer but the episode dosent really answer it for those who didnt play wich leaves the feeling of having an incomplete reasoning wich was needed for this episode and while i dont care who the winner is as long as it good at best dosent explain things properly and at worst it breaks its own rules wich is definetly something to worry about. I do not acuse them of doing so but the lack of explanation may make feel like that wich is not good. As for the fight itself while it had a few stiff movements it was great and well animated, but I also would have liked to have something different. I would have liked to have an actual Jojo fight, one of wich would take the iq plays and bullshitery from the manganime paired with the antincs from the Persona series, something that could have happend due to the diferent abilities of the diferent personas. We only got that at the ending of the Jonathan vs Tanjiro fight and this would have a good oportunity for that (I guess we will have to wait for Joseph vs Shikamaru for that) and while it was nice to see Joker freeze things to counter Giorno life creations as it happend in JoJo thats only it, I guess I cant really complain since the fight was good but I would still have preferred something like that. As for the characters per se it could be a me thing but Giorno dosent really feel as its own character in the fight, it feels more as just an oposing force to Joker, a good one at that yes, but he feels incomplete in that regard to me. You have the mention to his dreams but thats just a very basic mention to his character and while i like the fight taking place in his palace (i couldnt be otherwise) i find it lacking in that regard. Artistically speaking I perhaps would expect them to have few more color pallete swaps or a bit more of Persona's HUD's and transitions but I am fine with what we got. Perhaps I would add a Diavolo gag or them having a fourth wall break having them giving Giorno the win and starting the analysis to then have Joker break from it and coming back to the battle to change the ending as he did. But I get that these things would be dificult to implement properly and that you cant ask too much due to budget reasons and we already had a great spetacle PS: Yeah, while Giorno is ruthless and dosent hesicate to kill those who he deems as evil he is also someone who references Jesus abd acts as a beacon of hope and support to his partners to the point of putting himself in danger most of the time so they can have an advantage while also being the healer of the group. This dicotomy of him being ruthless but also being a gentleman with a heart of gold who saves and values people is the point of his character since he is both the son of Dio and Jonathan

[@personaking7]

The teddy bear is the spell die for me, which is a death spell

[@ramzisalim2592]

Did you see the storyboards of this fight? There's an epilogue

[@billyweed835]

The reason Joker got 0 XP is because, since DB takes each character at their strongest, he was presumbly max level.

[@kitty-kalamariart4577]

23:03 you only mispronounced one word congrats 🎉 I really liked the 2D bits in this one. They looked amazing.