Compare KA-BAR 1217 USMC & 1317 DOGS HEAD Knives

Link to Knives, USMC 1217 amzn.to/2MLHTMm
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Music by Daniel Norton "Swamp Fox"

[@JollyPeanut]

This video is "out of focus," I did not have the best camera or the best camera skills at the time back in 2017...

[@sheniloiu5293]

The blood groove is not a blood groove at all, it is a fuller and is done to make the blade a bit lighter and, believe it or not, it actually makes the blade a little stronger in the area.

[@WhootyPie]

Like an I beam

[@arthurdrollinger6970]

Sir, you know what you are talking about.

[@bushtrash2286]

I really like the design of these knives, because they look really easy to maintain.

[@gud2go50]

Good Job Mate. I am a Retired U.S. Marine. You did us Worthy.

[@erichan6985]

Thank you for you serving . I’ve been through 24 knives . This one is the most versatile for everything . What a piece of history .

[@cathleen2]

Greetings from Nova Scotia Canada, My late neighbor was a WW2 Pacific Marine. He was in the 2nd Marine Division, he was on The Canal, Tarawa, Saipan, Tinian among other islands !! He knew ALOT of Marine Legends like Chesty Puller, Lou Diamond, Ray Davis, Lewis Walt E.T.C Semper Fi Marine 👍👌

[@NoelArmourson]

The United States Marine Corp was the first to adopt this knife, doing so in 1943. The same basic design was issued by other branches of the U.S. military, manufactured by Ka-Bar or Camillus.

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

I'm former U.S. military, and have the Dog's Head version because the cross guard is 1) heavier, and 2) shorter along the top of the blade for a sabre, fighting hand grip - (Col. Rex Applegate US Army & Col. W.E. Fairbairn GB.) I've read quite a bit that these knives don't hold up to bushcraft "batoning". Perhaps not... That's not something I plan on doing on a regular basis. Should I need to, I'll get a Mora...

[@BrewCityRider]

Just learned of the Dogs Head version...love it! Wanted the fighting knife, but didn't feel right carrying the USMC or Army version because I'm not a vet. I think I actually prefer the pommel on the Dog better anyway. Just ordered one from SMKW.

[@puertoriqueno24]

Knife is for everyone

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

i didn't know about the dog's head 1317. i re-watched this vid & thumbed it up. the dog's head is what i want. it's better for me than the reg 1217. i'm gonna buy a new dog's head now. thank you!

[@Airik1111bibles]

The Dogs head is awesome ....ya missed the biggest difference, the top guard is gone on the DH making carving way more comfortable.

[@JollyPeanut]

Good point, the top guard is still there but much shorter & your thumb can sit over it OK...Thanks well spotted.

[@wampachomp5120]

Nice video, i have a ka bar USMC design but i like the dogs head design , the shooting at the end was a great ending too, ka bar makes some quality knives

[@ronaldrose7593]

Thank you my friend for sharing this informative video. 🤗

[@rustysmith540]

I am the knife video finger bandage commenting bandit

[@gud2go50]

Thank You Again.

[@keepgodinit2winit]

Can’t go wrong with kabar, thanks JP. Have a gud one ☝️ buddy

[@veidorje1681]

clip point : ) thanks 4 sharing

[@ericwhitfield8475]

Great video best wishes

[@JollyPeanut]

Thanks Eric 👍

[@zrig1]

That's a good hound ... love the firearm. That is the coolest thing

[@JollyPeanut]

Thanks

[@wardencobb7442]

I tried both. Both fantastic. I chose the dogshead.

[@jelaienfinue]

Try to fix your auto focus next time. Otherwise, great comparison!

[@lorenray9479]

A reduced full tang is not a RATTAIL j ust head on over to NEWYORK USA where there is about one rat for every 2 or 4 humanoids. Go to their high end food dispensories and peek thru the gate out back. Those cat size critters are packing what the locals call a RAT TAIL. Imho.

[@sofakingphat8087]

Good Dog.

[@tsosmits777tsakous9]

Cool stuff ! I gonna have one ..

[@JollyPeanut]

They are awesome knives, check this one out i know the seller he only sells top quality...www.ebay.com/itm/KA-BAR-DOGS-HEAD-1317-Hunting-Fighting-Knife/263837392059?hash=item3d6def1cbb:g:WeMAAOSwnr9bWP3p

[@tsosmits777tsakous9]

Jolly Peanut Thank you buddy ! That's a great price in Europe .

[@JollyPeanut]

May not work for you this one is a good price but its in USA so shipping would probably be expensive for you ..maybe $25 to $30 to ship to Europe..

[@BlueOx2277]

I do not like the guard and pommel on the dog head knife. Were I to purchase one, I’d put the usmc guard and pommel on the dog head blade.

[@JollyPeanut]

Me i love the pommel & guard on the dogs head , were lucky Ka-bar have some great patterns to choose from. Thanks for stopping by brother 👍

[@baron8107]

That's a strange-looking and convenient kettle.

[@IvanStepan-xd5rv]

I have the russian replic of Ka-bar - stainless steel blade with a wooden handle 😁👍

[@JollyPeanut]

The Rusky blade sounds interesting, I have a few Russian knives, my favorite hunting knives is made in Russia , A&R POLAR 2 Zlatoust Полярный 2 Златоуст 🗡Happy Easter buddy 👍

[@ibnBobby80]

What kind of coffee maker is that?

[@eddywlf]

9:56 - AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I LOVE YOU'R DOG !!! IS FUNNY XD XD XD

[@cofee28]

You can tell when someone plays with knives a lot. They seem to have a band aid on at least one finger. LOL

[@johnmutton799]

you have not used them, so how do you know they are good ?

[@imamsantoso7232]

Mantaaap

[@englishgentleman7471]

I’m assuming you’re ex-military? I’m not but my friends are, I’m also uk and own the dogs head, when me and my friends wild camp (easy where I’m from) this is my go to blade to skin, baton, shave down small logs for kindling.

[@JollyPeanut]

Yes, KZbin just showed me your comment , 4 months late WTF YT

[@ToanNguyen-ts8zq]

I like his gun, what's gun and where to by it?

[@JollyPeanut]

Bond Arms Snake Slayer, mine has the 357 Magnum / 38 SPL & the 410/ 45LC barrels, it is a very well made very cool hand gun, i am selling mine, they are not legal every where in the US...

[@QuantumPyrite_88.9]

Have you used your Kabars yet ?

[@paulbaumer8210]

Get a Turok if you're out in the wilds.

[@IndianOutlaw1870]

The 1217 is better balanced, in my humble opinion. I don't like that big pommel on the Dog's Head. I didn't like it on their Next Generation knives either.

[@Smiley_Boi76]

Indian Outlaw I’ve heard they shatter. I’ve never seen it happen but why take the chance I suppose

[@rrpp6788]

Clip point not drop. Hidden tang not rat tail.

[@lorenzopedro7782]

Btw that's not a blood groove it called fuller and it ment to take some out some weight of the blade

[@mallenkennelsuk5854]

Lol you just watch the knife guy video as well lol

[@vintage_andy]

can i put the usmc knife on a full sized black plastic sheath? thanks

[@JollyPeanut]

As long as it fits no reason not to... For $14 on Amazon you can get a Ka-Bar 1216 Full-size Black Hard Knife Sheath, i have not tried them yet but they have good reviews..www.amazon.com/Ka-Bar-1216-Full-size-Black-Sheath/dp/B000Q9C9B8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1491759686&sr=8-4&keywords=usmc+knife+sheath

[@vintage_andy]

thanks

[@carlosjoseloureiro4455]

A Tramontina deveria fazer uma faca no estilo da ka bar

[@TJeffW1974gmail]

Yeah it looks like your dog is used to going hunting with you a lot !!! LOL

[@sanporco6600]

His gun review is more entertaining than knives.

[@johnmutton799]

Dogs head any day. Better guard, straight not pointing back. Stick tang. And fullers, not blood groove.

[@QuantumPyrite_88.9]

Take a standard Kabar or Camillus and remove the top guard with a hack saw / leaving 1/4 inch for guard strength on the blade . Cold grind a choil in front of the bottom guard . This is what most U.S Army Rangers did (Me) when they were issued the Camillus combat knife or purchased the Kabar . A double guard is meant to block or deflect an opponents blade = Something most soldiers will ever encounter . Dump the top guard so you can "over grip" and do fine work . A guy who used to write for Tactical Knives magazine - Named Karwin wrote an article regarding modifications to an existing Kabar combat knife - removing the top guard and drilling a hole through the butt cap / pommel for a lanyard . Karwins modification became know as the "Karbar" in 1985 . The U.S. Army Rangers and Special Forces were doing this modification back in the 60s' and 70s' ... long before Chuck Karwins ideas . The "dogs head " Kabar is based on the input from combat veterans who actually used the Kabar blade on a day to day basis . Think of the Kabar as a butcher knife / camp knife / combat knife . To this day , they are still one of the premier survival blades . The "blood groove " is worthless , but the 1095 steel is excellent . Thanks Jolly Peanut for your input .

[@venasm]

@Mike N interesting. thanks for the info. they don't get to keep the knife?? doesn't it get damaged or does the gov sell them as surplus?

[@venasm]

@Mike N thanks!

[@compartmentofdirections]

Or just get a Ka bar and use it.

[@theevilempire6935]

SAR TRACKING the kabar was made for one thing only TO KILL

[@oldschool3484]

The Kabar is a carbon steel blade. What is the dog head ?

[@billpeart]

Same 1095 cro van

[@Nightwolf866]

and upper handguard is much shorter.

[@howcroft22]

Clip point. Not drop point.

[@paulie4x1]

Say Heah Jolly, yeah, I have the Ka-Bar U. S. M. C. infact I also have sone vintage W. W. 2 versions, which in my opinion ate better made, I even have one made by Camillus. But that Master Hunter is also one of my Fav's, mines in 3V. I also teamed my with my Fox Bushcraft Parang Jungle Knife, a good matching combo that complements eachother, But my plinker is a bit larger and shoots. .45 LC or. .410 it's my Cherokee Super Single Pistol, I holster it in a M-1 Scabbard but I can wear it like a holster. Dilly Dilly.,,.p

[@yusufemincoban6794]

focus...

[@billpeart]

I don't believe that this is 1095 Chrome Vanadium Steel. I believe it's just straight 1095 Steel

[@BrewCityRider]

Its 1095 Cro-Van per Ka-bar.

[@Beaverbush1969]

You talk exactly the same as Jon Richardson from 8 out of 10 cats😀

[@JollyPeanut]

lol

[@Beaverbush1969]

@@JollyPeanut it’s. Cool

[@njwarren6482]

If anyone knows if the kabar knife is legal in Ohio please let me know, I'm assuming it's lagel everywhere but just want to ask.

[@GLOCK-ot8sf]

R34P3RS R34CH I have 2 and I live in New York, of its legal here it's probably legal everywhere in the United States, just don't carry it around the city

[@njwarren6482]

Soulside Journey Ive actually done alot of research an I can legally open carry it on my belt, i baught one but haven't worn it in public besides walking my dog but I can if I want here in ohio. Open carry at least.

[@Rockunstank]

It's NOT a blood groove...

[@JollyPeanut]

ok ,what is it ?

[@Rockunstank]

It's a Fuller...a way to cut weight without giving up strength...

[@Rockunstank]

Like an "I" beam....

[@JollyPeanut]

ok cool, i did not know that...Thanks for the info

[@user-au777]

Hello. I will be very grateful to you if you answer my question. I have my ka-bar usmc with me and I found that the handle was a bit shriveled due to dryness. It so happens that I have nothing but gun neutral oil. Can it be used to refresh leather on the handle? Will neutral gun oil harm the skin?

[@gordonj5157]

Next time keep your hands a bit further away so your camera will focus

[@silvanigra]

Too bad your camera can't focus! Or is it set to fixed focus? Can't see a thing up close... But that gun is sweeeet... I wish we could buy guns here in the EU. EU sucks in that respect, big time!

[@JollyPeanut]

Yeah I could not tell if the cam was focusing or not, I need a better camera....I thought you could have firearms in the EU I guess it depends where you are...

[@silvanigra]

In some countries it's easier to get a hunting rifle, for instance, such as Spain or France, but not where I live (Romania, duh!). At some point, I was considering moving to the US only to be able to collect firearms, but then found out that one first needs to become a citizen to get a license/permit :)

[@JollyPeanut]

Well if you do decide to move to the US you will be pleased to know that to buy firearms you do not need to be a citizen. As long as you have a Green Card you can buy guns. Anyone legally living in the US can buy guns no license or permit required.

[@silvanigra]

Thank you for that info, this is totally new to me. It's good to know and I'll have to look into it, particularly in regard to eligibility for a green card. The perspective of relocating to the US is exciting, including for my two kids who speak pretty good English. Do you happen to know of any resources/websites that can offer consultation in this matter?

[@JollyPeanut]

I found youtube very helpful lots of info on ways to get a green card...Study these well as you have to stick with the route you choose ie marriage to US citizen or work visa or whatever, some ways are quicker than others but they all take a long time.....Also check out this link all the official info is here...Good Luck.. www.uscis.gov/

[@chrishale4623]

It's Olean, NY, not Oleen, NY The A as in Apple.

[@martinadejaquiz2482]

it's pronounced like this, isn't it?.... OleAnne? right? isn't that correct?

[@Icanhasautomaticcheeseburger]

"OH-lee-anne," not "oh-LEEN"... three syllables, not pronounced like the chip oil that causes anal leakage...

[@andrewdidlick1094]

I enjoyed the information but the entire video is out of focus.

[@JollyPeanut]

Yeah sorry i did not have the best camera back in 2017

[@MrShelange]

out of focus useless review

[@JollyPeanut]

so why don't you make a better one....

[@MrShelange]

I'm saying it cause it look like you didn't give a chance to edit it. so you make a better one! intiendidos