I've messed with these clones a bit. Just buy the joncutter 5800, it comes with all the good parts already on it, then do a quick easy port job on it. The supmix 6200 also runs great but has cheap crappy plastic. I had the 61.5cc version (timberpro6150) and the 54.6cc (joncutter5800) saw at the same time, there was next to no power difference. The ports are too small to feed 61cc, if anything I like the 5800 better. The g4500 has a shorter stroke, I think it's 31mm while the 61.5 and 54.6cc has 34mm. The bigger cylinder wont be right on the 4500 without a lot of machine work. There's also a taller piston from a stihl 036 that fits. Dont trust anything novicelumberjack tells you about these saws, he cant measure. I called him out on that and he banned my comments on his channel lol.
@brainiacproductions357Ай бұрын
I agree after the machine work it is gonna be less than ideal. Maybe I’ll just cut the base and see what happens. What do you think is the best zenoah clone? And I always appreciate constructive criticism.
@nseric1233Ай бұрын
@@brainiacproductions357 IMO the joncutter 5800 is the best zenoah clone. The supmix 6200 or 6000 runs just like the joncutter, both are 54.6cc but it has really bad plastic, I swapped the plastic out on mine before it had a chance to break. If you cant get a joncutter, get a supmix and buy a new pull start and chain brake. The weimars looks ok but I cant get them in canada so I havent seen one in person. The proyamma is weird, the "68" gets good reviews but the other sizes suck. Some of the 5800 and 6200 proyammas are only 45cc.
@brainiacproductions357Ай бұрын
@@nseric1233 my Jon cutter has a 30.162mm stroke and 42.862mm piston after doing the math it’s 43.5cc pretty close to advertised. I’d like to get a 68cc or 62cc for the longer stroke but it’s not worth it if they aren’t any longer. And I’ll have to find out what models have the longest stroke. And then pair it with the biggest bore.
@nseric1233Ай бұрын
@@brainiacproductions357 The joncutter 5800 has the 34mm stroke crank in it. The supmix 6200 is the same. You could buy a 34mm stroke crank off alliexpress for a couple bucks for the 4500 if you wanted, the cases are all the same. There's only 2 cranks 31mm stroke and 34mm. I try to help guys out but no one wants to hear that they're better off buying a dirt cheap supmix 6200 and sticking the nicer joncutter 4500 plastics on it, or just buying the joncutter 5800. A bunch of guys, myself included wasted a bunch of time and money trying to make a 62cc version of this clone when the very easy to get 54.6cc version is better. There's 2 junk 48mm cylinders for these saws in my parts box and I wont be buying anymore of them, they run worse then the 45.2mm cylinder with a little porting. If I blow one up I'll just buy another supmix for 160 canadain lol.
@brainiacproductions357Ай бұрын
Okay that’s all great information and I do see lots of stuff on Reddit about port numbers stroke mm. But I can’t seem to find any information on 62cc or 68cc proyama or supmix crankshaft mm length. I’d like to get the biggest stroke saw and slap the biggest bore I can find. Maybe a 68cc crankshaft with 62cc piston since they are 47.mm. But like I said may just have to buy and find out what they are myself. But thanks I’ve been watching your videos lately would like to see the huyosen since they are so cheap. But may get a garweiner 62cc since they are 119.99 right now with 2 day shipping. But like I said wanna buy the biggest crank set up so I don’t have to split the case to install one.