The Proyama PCS68 is a Chinese clone of the Zenoah G5200 chainsaw with increased displacement. Here is a link to purchase the Proyama: a.co/d/aB8hjQS
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@larryw54294 ай бұрын
Plenty of people buying chinese saws and had good results. Plus they are a great cheap platform for dipping your hat into the porting/modding side of things and upgrading them with quality cylinders and pistons from well known companies!
@richardflagg30844 ай бұрын
Run it with the .325 chain and short bar and see how it stacks up against the 55 builds.
@jarrodskeete524 ай бұрын
Yup...I think 20 inch bar .325 chain is the ticket with that saw in stock form
@clintonbeckworth1264 ай бұрын
Good backup saw for cutting firewood and they sound good when they run
@aaronpowell48854 ай бұрын
Great to see another higher quality Zenoah clone👍🏻 Yeah, sometimes those reviews online from those who are clearly less than well versed with the products they're reviewing are borderline comical🤨😅
@tippyzuk13 ай бұрын
I must have been lucky, mine came with 20" + 24". I think the more reputable Chinese manufacturers are improving quality as they go, others are take the money and run. Great video, we need these honest opinions!
@lanceuselton31244 ай бұрын
Good honest review Boedy, I like that you are reviewing from just a home owner point of view, a good perspective would be what a rental place would charge for a 2 day rental of a 62cc saw would be. Thanks for your videos I really enjoyed the hustle. You have came a long ways since I started watchin. Chainsaw are addicting for sure....thanks again
@crxess4 ай бұрын
These newer China saws are actually getting to be good Ranch/Farm saws. Not logging for a living but dealing with clearing, dead falls, etc. year round. I'm just a homeowner, 70y.o., but supplement heating with a Fireplace insert. Last year I cut up about 13 cords(Planning for the future), only one so far this year.(rain/rain and more rain) Ive only had one suffer a clutch failure and that was my lack of maintenance. Everything I cut is hardwood so I know Brodies review is spot on.
@crxess4 ай бұрын
Was impressed with reviews and had one of these ordered. After 2 weeks of back and forth and still no saw I forced a refund(AliExpress) and ended up catching a HUS372xp/24" Bar/chain combo with a discount from Amazon. $190.00 to my door tax included. Wasn't what I originally wanted but after getting it setup and the carb. adjusted I am very pleased. I added a NeoTec 28" Bar/chain combo deal for $49(heavily discounted for the holidays) Happy with the decision, but still like the idea of adding the Proyama......... maybe after I can sell a few of my other saws - Have to keep the wife happy.
@casper92563 ай бұрын
I found these for 150, and the wemars for 78, im definitely keeping a close eye on the competition, doing my research, thanks for the review b everything I was looking to find out right here.
@danielborth77534 ай бұрын
I happen to see right now at the same exact thing on AliExpress 199 dollars I'm thinking I should buy that sounds incredible in free shipping
@jackylsmith81384 ай бұрын
I’d spend $50 more and get a Holtzforma g372 xp and put my own bar and chain on it and it will blow that 62 cc saw away.
@shakdidagalimal2 ай бұрын
Look at how straight those cookie logs are. Amazing.
@mikewaite36924 ай бұрын
The Chinese manufacturers include the volume of the squish area above the piston in their calculation for measuring the cc's of a 2 stroke motor. I learned this from years of building motorized bikes using the little Chinese 2 strokes. They sell these 66cc motors as 80cc. This is common knowledge to those of us involved in the hobby. I can't tell you whether this is a shady marketing ploy or just their way of measuring cylinder volume. This practice could possibly be the reason why the saw does not measure out to the claimed volume. I bought a Neo-tec 872i ( comes with upgraded cylinder, crank, coil and a Walbro carb) last year. I added an Eagan Straight Shot muffler. I run 24'" and 28" bars. It is a beast. Fit and finish is maybe 85%, but nothing that has affected the performance. 40:1 with non -ethanol 90 and Royal Purple oil. Revs out crisp and clean with zero cylinder deposits. Excellent value for $350.
@novicelumberjack4 ай бұрын
I have heard this explanation before. I still will cut them zero slack. I think it is either shady or it is ignorant, and I do not think they are ignorant. So yeah, they are purposefully trying to trick the consumer.
@carnold.knowledgeАй бұрын
It’s good to see Chinese clones that aren’t junk. I’d guess most homeowners aren’t needing 62cc, and they probably default to an entry level Stihl or Echo for around the same price or even less (albeit with a much smaller engine and bar). It will be interesting to see the longevity of the Proyamas.
@johnnyringo44636 күн бұрын
After Beryl knocked a tree down in my yard, i got an echo cs3510. Cut up a probably 24in ash tree. That saw held out strong and punched above its weight for what it went against. Lol. But of course a bigger bar and motor would have helped. Gonna be ordering one of these next if I dont get an echo 4910. Perceived longevity is a factor.
@andrewgrubb89474 ай бұрын
Like you said before. The Japanese did it with the motorcycle to eventually be the best in the world. The Chinease saws will one day be pretty good too. They are definitely improving!
@modarkthemauler4 ай бұрын
The lack of original designs is what concerns me on that. Without the lessons you learn in research and development you don't gain the knowledge to make something exceptional.
@0808dsmith4 ай бұрын
Really nice saw! Might have to get me one!
@diy75944 ай бұрын
Looks pretty similar to the 455 rancher from what i can see what do you think
@kraftzion3 ай бұрын
Just putting in my vote for your trip to China. I would definitely buy a hot 50cc class Chinese clone closed port saw. Probably buy more than one as long as it isn't a clamsheĺl. And yes , truth in advertising. If it is 62, call it a 62. I would like it if you weighed the saws you review like dyno joe does. I don't know exactly what is up but I handled a cs4910 at home depot for the first time the other day . Now it was in their rental dept. which means it is absolutely reliable. They used to rent only Makitas. They only had 2 saws for rent, a 4910 and a 590. That being said echo claims the 4910 weighs 10.6 lbs . Found a claimed weight of 10 lbs for a poulan 3050 online. Same saw as my 4620 but 49cc. The cs4910 feels like an absolute pig compared to my 4620. Kind of surprised me actually.
@skrompf4 ай бұрын
Thanx for the review! Looking forward to bigger wood vids. My concern is , does it last? Forward it to someone that (ab)use it for 20+ hours followed with an updated review. You are the one to make it happen. Interesting stuff.
@brandonhoad90334 ай бұрын
I've got stock 590. Muffler has extra hole. Proyama seems much much better than the p o s 372 holzforma I got
@redtiller19754 ай бұрын
Seems to run pretty well. I’d get it broke in and then port it or at least try advancing the timing.
@jimmyboy95Ай бұрын
Try a Huyosen chainsaw. In my opinion, that brand makes the best clones. Proyama is a good option, but Huyosen is more accurate with advertising.
@PhillipMosier4 ай бұрын
It seems for what it is it's pretty good like to see how long it lasts
@coolestguyontheplanet7234 ай бұрын
What does it weigh?😊 Compliment from me today 😊
@michellatour1504 ай бұрын
Taking into consideration it's country of origin, I would have given the chain brake a quick test before the first cut.
@crxess4 ай бұрын
LOL - haven't purchased any in recent years that had an issue out of the box. Not that I'd trust any of the Top handle saws. Half of those have no chain brake, just a hand guard.
@frankz11254 ай бұрын
Not bad but I think Id rather a Holtzforma G372 for around the same price. Cheers
@mr.somebody14934 ай бұрын
It would be nice if it came with a 20" bar 3/8 .050 72 links.
@MrBooMY34 ай бұрын
You could covert it to that pretty easy. The 3/8 sprocket doesn't care the thickness of the chain but you do have to get the correct Husky bar for it. That's what I bought and it fit.
@mr.somebody14934 ай бұрын
Agreed, and I have done that, just would make getting chains and bars easier. @@MrBooMY3
@bennyblanko34 ай бұрын
A couple questions. What is squish? Is it the same chassis as the other Zenoah clones, or are the cases a little bigger, bigger bearings ... or is it same plastics, caps, etc. I know the air filter is different (so cover may be taller). Looked pretty grunty out of the box with that open port cylinder. How do they get away with that nice open can muffler when everyone else is putting cats and/or strato? The 2 laminate bars and chisel chain alone are worth 50 bucks. And, you get a new saw that runs really good (My 80 dollar Zenoah clone is a decent little saw, a little vibey, but runs really good - and probably on the 6th season, though I have a lot of other saws I like more - but pretty light and strong - it is ported now though, so that's not really fair ... heh heh).
@johnroot49723 ай бұрын
Arre the Proyama saws compatible with name brand machines? Worried about needing a chain or bar on the weekend and not being able to get a replacement on a Saturday or Sunday
@tonybateson68944 ай бұрын
pretty decent power out of the box. plastics and av junk or decent quality? wonder what a muff mod would do?
@driftlesshunter92004 ай бұрын
If you watched his box opening of the chainsaw earlier in the day, it doesn't need one. The factory muffler is wide open with no baffles. It's amazing actually.
@arkadiuszszczotka61804 ай бұрын
This is sexy content. You made my day. And this cylinder set with open muffler sounds great. I like it.
@coolestguyontheplanet7234 ай бұрын
What quality is the bar ?😊
@loweralabamahomesteading46614 ай бұрын
They have a trimmer multi tool set up ive been seriously thinking of buying for my lawn care buisness but not knowing their quality ive been hesitant. Judging by what you've seen so far you think its worth a shot?
@skruface2 ай бұрын
5:43 I spent hours trying to get mine running to no avail. 300+ pulls and it will not fire. Proper fuel mix, 91 octane no ethanol fuel, checked spark plug, followed manual instructions implicitly, watched YT videos....saw just would not fire up, even after 300+ pulls. Already started the refund process. Guess I'll just stick to my Stihls and Husqavarnas.
@rogerbennett80284 ай бұрын
I would like to see a review of the ms660 neotec if possible. Thinking about buying one
@coolestguyontheplanet7234 ай бұрын
Craftsman 46cc 20" bar is about $220.ish +tax. So this 62cc should be worth it Poulan pro . ?😊
@IowaPerformanceSaws4 ай бұрын
Sooner or later I will have to play with one of these.
@danielborth77532 ай бұрын
I like to see a comparison of this compare to my black max BM 5820 20 inch 50cc chainsaw which I think has a lot of balls and it's about the same price as this
@forrestebert52764 ай бұрын
I’d say for $259.99 no -brainer for a camp saw to being left in a tractor! I was going to say runs similar to a Echo 590 stock.
@dennisyoung46314 ай бұрын
Zenoah clone? (Have a real Zenoah engine, and am wondering about *oil.* Trying to build consensus, and am wondering if these like Maxima K2, which I already have and wonder if I made a mistake.)
@bennyblanko34 ай бұрын
And, though it doesn't matter really, I'll bet that Proyama when it breaks in would beat the echo 590 by a small margin - but the 590's are a great bang for the buck too - mine was 360 off ebay - a while ago, they are probably 500 now? And, I know everyone hates 590's but I like mine. I don't care if it is slightly slower and heavier than a Husq 562 or Stihl 362. It cuts within a second or 2 max, and runs really good.
@AnthemBassMan4 ай бұрын
$449 at my local Home Depot.
@wildhog32173 ай бұрын
Which is better Wemars or Proyama?
@Mightycaptain4 ай бұрын
That really does seem alright.
@jimholz11024 ай бұрын
How close is it to a Redmax G621av?
@zachdiehl34014 ай бұрын
Could you put it up against the new wemars 6220 you just got
@Cherokee-sz7xi4 ай бұрын
I’m curious, why do you pull the cord out a bit before shutting the saw down? Thanks
@ericvortex52134 ай бұрын
Engine kicks back when it stops on compression, and can sometimes break the starter. By holding a length of rope pulled the launcher cushions the shock and does not break. “Easy start” starters absorb this shock automatically without pulling the rope.
@davesteier-xf5lh4 ай бұрын
Is Imperial up or down?? I think it’s down?
@omarramos35344 ай бұрын
Can you try the Amazon supmix 62 cc I purchased it and it works pretty well I just think it’s to loud any tips on making it less loud
@driftlesshunter92004 ай бұрын
Wear hearing protection. It has a muffler that enhances its performance most likely. A quieter one will reduce it.
@fearghalmorrissey26014 ай бұрын
Reed saw?
@michaelmcfarland33004 ай бұрын
Maybe an echo cs590 contender?
@MrBooMY34 ай бұрын
If you pull the cylinder look and see if it has a 48 on one of the 4 sides. That might very well be the cylinder you got. I have 2 of them. The piston is 47.8ish mm the stroke is 34mm on my saw. 61.5 actual CC. It's OK but the transfers are too small for the CC of the motor.
@MrBooMY34 ай бұрын
If yours is similar to mine the clutch isn't really happy with keeping up with the motor. Mine gets hot when I really push it. I put a 24" 3/8 .058 Husky bar on it and the clutch on mine really doesn't like pushing that.
@MrBooMY34 ай бұрын
If you "big bore" a 54.5cc platform with that top end you have to machine 1.5mm x 7.2.m off of the entire top of the crankcase minus the transfers. I will be happy to provide a link of where to buy the top end kit.
@MrBooMY34 ай бұрын
I've bought 3 different "62cc" saws and all 3 were 54 5cc. I had to buy my own top end to ensure I got one.
@nseric12334 ай бұрын
I had a 48mm bore 61.5cc one of these called a timberpro years ago, it didnt run any better than the 54.5cc joncutter version. The ports just cant feed the extra displacement so it didnt perform like a 61cc saw, I told people it was a 50 because it ran like one. The clutch also dosnt like long bars, I run 16 inch bars on these saws to save the clutch. I dont care about the 61.5cc version of this saw, I like the 54cc better, it pulls more rpm and cuts faster in most everything I cut.
@chloeew4627Ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with that , get 3 years of home firewood and it’s a bargain.😊
@mr.somebody14934 ай бұрын
Half the money of a 460 Rancher and just as much saw, just as good too.
@mattfleming864 ай бұрын
certainly easier to work on than 4xx huskies i guarantee.
@skrompf4 ай бұрын
Rancher's last a life time if you don't fuck them up. My 5 cent.
@mr.somebody14934 ай бұрын
Ya, I have a 460. it's built like a tank. good saw, but my Zenoah clones are just as good for a fraction of the money. Not dissing Husky, I love them, The Zenoahs have Husky design roots. @@skrompf
@MotoLife5413 ай бұрын
@@skrompfI agree. For a home owner saw you can't go wrong with a rancher. You can't even compare the build quality between a Chinese saw and a husky, Stihl or echo, they are on completely different levels.
@aledhughes33254 ай бұрын
Be nice to see these test cuts in hardwood.
@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws4 ай бұрын
👍🆙BigGuy
@Psy6o3 ай бұрын
Shouldve got a pinkway saw it will walk the dog on the proyama lol for $120
@robbevington17544 ай бұрын
Drop off 1 of the bar and the price down with the other at around 125 see how that sells
@JohnDoe-ud2cc2 ай бұрын
I want to see it head to head with a cs590 or 620
@mikepruett17453 ай бұрын
havent seen this in a 24 yet
@novicelumberjack3 ай бұрын
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@mr.somebody14934 ай бұрын
Chinese clone saws , don't just cut wood with them, collect them. 😀
@ronalddietz16284 ай бұрын
Interesting
@crazyfeller57044 ай бұрын
👍👍
@bennyblanko34 ай бұрын
When you are done making video's with that saw, sell it to me.
@davesteier-xf5lh4 ай бұрын
Well… there goes the neighborhood DIY homeowners see this they’ll never hire anyone again …they can’t afford it anyway “barefoot” On line accounting degree here I come!! That’ll give my 620 a run for its money. I bet it’s lighter too.
@saltrock96424 ай бұрын
Cutting with Chinese saw then log makes Chinese eyes at 4:48. Juss sayn.
@jeanolivierbourdages5885Ай бұрын
Bro, american do the same all over 😂 exemple... a raptor 700r is actually 670 cc something