Flying the updated JustFlight BAe 146 from Queenstown to Mount Cook in Flight Simulator

Something of a ridiculous flight, given that the BAe 146 can't get back out of Mount Cook without quite considerable trouble. Really just a shake-down to see if anything major has changed in the 146 since the most recent update. We're NOT reviewing each change - just taking it for a flight. Enjoy!
Sidenote - you CAN take off with more flap :)
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[@deanandcheryl]

I fly the avro Rj 100 in Canada. There is a min speed you a fly depending on flap setting and angle of bank. Flaps can be retracted at v2 + 10 from 33 to 24. V2 + 20 from 24 to 18. Flaps can be selected to 0 at VFTO unless in a 30 degree turn, and then you would use VER for flap 0. In a departure like this you would have to maintain the flap setting for the speed you were flying +10 if in a 30 degree bank turn until you could accelerate to VFTO or VER respectively. I love the video. I will be downloading this aircraft for sure. Thanks again.

[@jonbeckett]

Great to get some feedback from a real pilot - would love to invite you to a group flight with it at some point if you have time? (Check out the VirtualFlight.Online discord server)

[@portsmouth24568]

'This thing lands on much shorter runways than it can take off' - I guess it can only do it once!!!!

[@MrPeterhemm]

Thanks Jonathan, love this plane and need to get back into it. BTW, NZA Simulations just released their Proline rendition of the Milford Sound region and it's quite good!

[@fauxflights77]

So funny. When I was chatting with you about hotel mode a couple of weeks ago, it was for the flight I was posting with that ANPO3A departure. Love that Queenstown area. I need to get into the 146. I held off of both that and the ATR so I didn't blow by the other stuff I had bought, but the time has come. Thanks for the vid!

[@elpiloto100]

Always enjoy watching your videos! In the just flight tutorial, they suggest turning APU air on as soon as APU is on (off temporarily during engine start sequence), and keeping engine air 1-4 off until climb. Presumably this should give better takeoff performance? I think that's also why you get the indictor 'AIR SEL ON GROUND'.

[@Shadowdncer]

Yeah, the tutorial has the APU providing air to the packs during the complete takeoff and landing with all engine air off. There is also that little quirk where you only run one pack on the ground (1 on odd days, 2 on even). They also have engine A-ICE on during engine start for some reason.

[@jonbeckett]

@@Shadowdncer It makes sense - all of the various systems detract from the engines. If you play with anti-icing, you lose max thrust quite considerably.

[@Shadowdncer]

@@jonbeckett Yes, but they have it on for engine start, maybe to divert some power from the fans?

[@845SiM]

The weather radar is the best bit, also the c 17 had a big update today.

[@yams900]

PS. I've read on JustFlight forum, that UNS-1 (fms) for BAE146 at testing stage, and hopefully will be released in the near future (before Xmas)

[@johnysilverhand6778]

This is not bug, in MFS2020 pushback car pull up aircraft forward wheel, then push him backward. Same FBW a320 forward wheel are pull up. If you turn on animation pushback car you wil see how this work. Cheers.

[@TheWatchWatcher_]

I'm going to guess that on pushback, the nose lifts off the ground slightly because it is simulating being picked up by a towbar-less tractor...

[@gamingbubble1103]

Your graphics looks absolutely insane 😳 I've moved from Xbox to PC and get my PC this weekend. I can't wait to finally have access to the sim just like all you PC guys it looks amazing. I've went for a RTX 4070 Gigabyte graphics card.

[@jonbeckett]

How different is it on XBox ?

[@gamingbubble1103]

@jonbeckett the graphics are decent don't get me wrong, but there are stutters in scenery like mountains where you can see the game trying to keep up. Like odd flickers in the textures. Yours looks amazing, can't wait to set up my new PC this weekend and stop playing on Xbox 😂 plus we don't get half the things you guys get on PC

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

@@gamingbubble1103So now that some time has passed, how did it go? Is your PC meeting expectations? How is MSFS cooperating? 🖖😀

[@gamingbubble1103]

@BPond7 I'm loving msfs on my PC. It was a bit of a set up and learning curve. But I'm so glad I got a PC, feels like it's on a whole other level than the Xbox.

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

@@gamingbubble1103 That’s awesome! There’s such a deep rabbit hole of mods and hardware peripherals, if you ever decide to go down that path. It really is a whole new level. 😎

[@mikecoffee100]

A Splendid flight Thank You

[@GumperVanLier]

You made a perfect landing! This plane is worth it's price and I was lucky enough to purchase it when it was discounted $10. It is a challenge to fly especially while in cruise as I can't seem to keep it at a steady speed. I've never cold started it like you do though. I'll have to wait for my update as I purchased it via the Marketplace. As for the SID, I notice that LNM many times does not show the correct SID path especially when it changes direction or goes into a circle. If you are flying a plane with the G1000/3000, you can see the actual flight path. Also, Navigraph will show it correctly too.

[@zuuplaai]

When cruise, see at what TGT setting keeps the desired speed . Then set the TGT with the three dials, then set TGT on the TMS. This keeps the engine on the TGT you selected. this value will be also displayed on the TMS

[@schoolhero6146]

Can I ask when was it on discount? I genuinely want it only for the analog instruments just like the tbm850.

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

@@schoolhero6146I don’t know if you’ve purchased the plane yet, but they did have $20 off sale for Thanksgiving. If you’re still waiting to buy, I’ll bet they have a Christmas sale in a couple more weeks. It’s a great plane to learn about and fly. 🖖😀

[@johncrichton4341]

Many thanks for this JB - I've been wanting for a good guide to startup etc. to get my teeth into!

[@GilbMLRS]

Too bad I just bought tje F28....justflight really has stepped up its game with these two planes. Can't wait for another well made retro-liner.

[@Grumps730]

Hello Jonathan, thank you for the calm and lucidity you bring to flight simming by way of your well conducted videos. I have a question, when you bring up multiple screens simultaneously on then narrow window, what program/app do you use to accomplish same ? By the way, your calm and polished British accent is very easy on the ear😊! Thank you.

[@jonbeckett]

Thankyou for the feedback! I just use ALT+TAB on the keyboard to switch applications.

[@yams900]

Nice one Jon ! The updated BAE146 ? I read about something coming, to get weather functioning...among other things

[@UkDave3856]

If you follow the full checklist you do switch off the APU, and switch it back on as part of the decent check list. Additionally the weather radar has a setting that will show the GPS route instead of the radar display. I don’t know if this feature was available in the real plane, or if it’s only been included by Justflight for those that can’t live without a purple line to follow 🤔

[@jay-rus4437]

Ive been kicking around with getting this plane. Not that I need it….lol. Same with the TBM 850, and the BN2 Islander. These 3 planes have been on my “watch” list for awhile. Problem is that I havent even spent any time in the ATR since buying it. Great problems in life to have I guess 😁 And almost not to mention the PC-12 coming out any time from SWS.

[@LowescC]

positively diabolical- especially with the 146....( love it )

[@yamahaguy1732]

I’ve been on the line about getting this for a few months now. Is it truly worth the price? It appears to be an excellent aircraft. I’d love some opinions!

[@jonbeckett]

It's brilliant.

[@rustyneedles3743]

Heya John, how are you controlling the vertical speed? other aircraft have a dial like control you turn up and down to adjust the rate of accent/decent, but I don't see you using any such switch in this video? and also, while I'm here, I switch the HSI switch to R-NAV and on the Ap panel, I click the L-NAV but the aircraft doesn't follow the flight plan I made on the map screen before entering the flight, GPS? it banks heavy to the right and just doesn't stop, but definitely doesn't follow the line on the VFR map, so confused ... arggggg

[@ironknobair]

On my first flight in the updated version 2, never bothered with the version 1 so am very rusty is there a speed hold switch or is that a manual thing.

[@jonbeckett]

It's manual :)

[@SN57ONE]

Oh! So the start sequence is 4-3-2-1 instead of 3-4-2-1? I always start it with the latter sequence. Is that just airline procedures or should you start it that way?

[@jonbeckett]

I think it varies from operator to operator. I know various other aircraft have a specific sequence (the DC6 comes to mind), but everything I've read about the 146 just says 4,3,2,1. Quite often the reasoning for one side or the other is for no more reason than the side the doors are open. Sometimes, it can be because the brake hydraulics are driven by the right engine by default (I read a fascinating mishap report about a 737 that rolled into the support vehicles on engine start because the crew started engine no. 1 first, but it was the first flight of the day - so the wheel brakes had no pressure in them).

[@ganashal]

I imagine you watched it back and saw your error, but the first time you tried to enter CSEHS instead of CSHES :)

[@jonbeckett]

Hahaha - sounds like something I would do :)

[@FarmLapse]

For some reason my plane is overspeeding, cant climb at all without going 300 knots... If I even drop it down to lets says 250 knots my plane wont climb at all whatever I do. I selected the altitude, VS or IAS and it just wont climb UNLESS going full thrust

[@fernandomonramos1129]

Hi can u do me a fever and see if the shortcut for auto pilot all work like heading and then laugh mode because I use my shortcut button on my Xbox controller to put on the auto pilot and then you have mode for the plane to follow the GPS and then you know I can control my attitude does not work with this year. I wonder if it works.

[@IceNein763]

Why didn't you just use flaps if you were so close to the stall speed?

[@jonbeckett]

I did! I had take-off flaps when the aircraft stalled (well...it didn't stall because we caught it - but the stick shaker started lol)

[@salehmohamed1664]

Where have you been? You haven't shown up for a while

[@jonbeckett]

I've been on holiday :)

[@salehmohamed1664]

happy vacation@@jonbeckett

[@jclad10]

I’m on Xbox mine hasn’t updated

[@BigMussMSFS]

Hi. The update has been submitted to Microsoft according to just Flight. It is waiting for them to authorise and release it (hopefully next week?)