Santa Cruz Winkowski Dope Planet Setup and Review

[@eliberdinner4808]

Great video! I'm 39 and toying with the idea of skating for the first time, so it's nice to see other middle aged folks trying it out. Cheers!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Do it !!

[@AtomicStewMusic]

I am 54 and came back after 38 years, everyone thinks I am nuts, but even with my bruises and scrapes, I haven't been this happy in a long time. Starting ramp riding this week.

[@MachinistSquare33]

All us old guys going through our mid life crisis times. Getting back on board is great. I've been wanting to get back on since the last time I was 13. Now 49........ need to keep our balance

[@bondalero0074]

I’m on my 3rd Winkowski! I bought (2) DopePlanet decks I loved it so much I got one to skate and one to hang in my collection of greats and re-issues. I just purchased his new Santa Cruz graphic called sketch pad/art deck. I can’t get enough of this set-up with orange Winkowski Slimeballs on Indy Hollow 159’s.#SantaCruz❤#🛹🔥🤘🏻

[@Tombs_Scootz]

I just bought my first winkowski the sketch book deck it comes tomorrow I'm excited also riding 57mm spitfire lock in wheels

[@Alexalexdave]

Great review Jon! One of my favourite graphics ever. That FS 50/50! Yeeeeeeeew!!

[@thefuturekidsofficial]

I love this board, great feeling under the feet

[@MC_795]

Love the Winkowski it’s such a good shape

[@WarriorSC858]

Hi Jon, 57 years old...I "restarted" ramp and bowl riding one year ago after a first restart of 2 years at 35. Your progresses really give me strength to carry on😀...although I am still far from your level (I passed the droppin level from a 6 foot ramp with 2 inches of vert...but I am stuck at the rock to fakie...rahhhh😡😡😠 eventhough I can fakie without a problem). Regarding the Santa Cruz reissus, like I wrote im a previous post, the designs are absolutely marvelous (shapes and grpahics).But they are manufactured in China. And on the two models I got (Winkowsky's and Clauss Grabke explosing clock), there for the first a default of tint on the upper deck and for the second, a lot of areas - 3 inches long and 1/6 wide non tinted (bought on internet). It wouldn t be important if these were not models for my collection (I am a great fans of all these end 70 to early 90's design - they are like pop art for me). Compared to boards designed and produced im California or Mexico (like for instance Powell Peralta, Vision, Schmitt Stix) how is the quality and durability of the wood? Last questions:what about Santa Cruz wheels?Also produced in China? How do they work, respextively on metal ramp, wood ramp, skatelite ramp, ,and concrete? Many thanks again for you great videos. Renn from Switzerland

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, the Santa Cruz snake is holding up well considering the abuse. Time will tell on the Winkowski, but it seems exactly the same quality? I’m riding spitfire wheels, but I’ve had Slimeballs in the past and they are ace! All round thumbs up from me?!

[@damianb2374]

Ren I feel your pain on the rock to fakie: do you have a very small ramp with coping to try it on and get the muscle memory?

[@johnh7447]

been riding the winkowski shape since 2020. Great shape n feel, tried Popsicles and other shapes but always come back to the winkowski. hope you enjoy it as much as I do!

[@beatriz1488]

Same here been riding it since 2019!!! And its the best!!❤

[@elonce01]

Man that is a sick set up! Switching set ups helps to keep me skating at 45. Even if they're not worn out. Each time i set up a new board it's like the 1st time so I'm glad to see others keeping fresh rad set ups in their quiver. Thanks and keep shredding!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Many thanks for tuning in!

[@MegaKubel]

Same here. I’m 47 and love to put togerher a new setup at least 2 a seasson :)

[@mdwrr]

Agreed. It was much easier when I was a kid because I couldn’t afford to change anything!

[@JonBishopSkate]

@@mdwrr yeah, you nailed it, don’t change anything, even if it’s not working 😂

[@Unoriginal3]

Love to read he’s getting so much love Bishop and winkowski Shape is seriously dope

[@chasebonin7043]

Fun fact the shape of this board is a mix of the Kendall shape you have and Monty Nolders Shmitt Stix "tiki" deck. It's the Kendall tail, and the Tiki nose. Also, I love Jessup grip. Killer video!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Good to know, thanks

[@sebastiansrensen8971]

Love your videos dude. Good work and nice board

[@JonBishopSkate]

Many thanks for tuning in!

[@chrhadden]

that intro was the best man. it caught me off guard while i was drinking my beer and i laughed so hard it came out of my nose lmao

[@JonBishopSkate]

Ha ha !!

[@tjmanning]

The cruise missile II is a hard shape to describe but its an absolute blast to ride, got the dope planet and just ordered my dope planet 2.

[@Psykmoe]

Really glad I found this video only a few days after its release, I've been curious to hear someone describe the concave on this deck before I commit to a purchase.

[@yossaauld1820]

Your getting better bro keep it up

[@JonBishopSkate]

Cheers dude,

[@marcelboogaard3809]

Nice one Jon. Been riding the Winkowski aquatic night deck for a while now and love it. This looks to have a slightly bigger nose than mine but the concave is the same. Happy shredding brother.

[@JonBishopSkate]

Great, Yeah, I think there is a bigger nose on the newer ones?

[@Larsy23]

I also have the Night Aquatic deck and I can’t fault it. I bought the Winkowski Bird Cage as well and it has a slightly longer tail which took some time to get used to. Hanging out for a issue 1 Dope Planet

[@simonemignemi6739]

Amazing Jon , I have been using the C5 truck in any kind of bowls and transitions for over 3 years now …and it’s the best surfing feeling when you try all the old school tricks ( which are surfing maneuvers..505/50’s / floaters , slash grinds / top turns , disasters / off the lips /fins out …etc etc ) … I was totally sure I wasn’t able to ride them in a deck over 9” . Now I know it is possible . Thanks !

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah dude, works a treat !!

[@ekoramone5912]

Looking forward to get this board. I'm using Jeff Kendall snake deck now. Thanks for your video and knowing the two decks almost similar. Greetings from Indonesia

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah dude, they are slightly different, the tail is the same, the nose and width is slightly bigger, the concave is the same ?!

[@ekoramone5912]

@@JonBishopSkate yeah, I saw the comparison the width and the nose slightly different. That's interesting. Thanks for you cool review ❤️

[@Cov3rscore]

That is one nice deck. I’m planning to buy one too.

[@xx_PCCR_xx]

Man I really love that intro! Thanks for your videos!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Many thanks for tuning in!

[@markpolitowicz5295]

Great review! Large rider here: 6'2" size 13's. I like wider boards. Plus with my last name Winkowski might be a distant cousin 🤣

[@JonBishopSkate]

Ha, yeah those 13s should have a bit more room on one of these ?

[@XenBeats]

NIce, that's the Dope Planet 1. The 2 in this colorway is just releasing now.

[@williammadray7818]

One factor that I notice about the current popularity of the re issues; is that they are perfect for the Waterborne high performance surfskate conversion kit. I'm interested not only in this deck, but also the"End of the World" deck.

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, Interesting point !!

[@vg4917]

@@JonBishopSkate like the look of this you may like heroin eyes deck seems similar i have it i love it

[@Adrian-rn1ym]

Great vid again , I was looking at that board at a local shop here. But I prefer a little more nose

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah dude, me too, but this one works ok, I managed to get my meagre bag of nose stuff no problem, whereas a nose stall on the snake turned into a major project 😂

[@carlc8996]

Absolutely love that circular cut out idea on the grip! (Boring concept possibly) but have you done a video talking through your board collection? Would love to see it.

[@JonBishopSkate]

This is from a bit ago, but all the main stuff is in there? kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3y2poBqaKyUf5o

[@8kum]

dude i was listening to the primus song the air is getting slippery and your intro synced perfectly it was sick

[@JonBishopSkate]

Ha !!

[@gempalm2003]

out of the 3 vids of the volcano ill be gettin mine tomorrow and 159 indys cant wait for that

[@bones2532]

Great review, Jon! Had the chance to ride a Winkowski 2 weeks ago and I was as much impressed as surprised: I always was afraid of the huge width of it and expected it to feel quite sluggish (I usually ride 9" - 9.5" wide decks). What a surprise, it felt quite the opposite. Sturdy but very reactive, almost small. Lucky me, I just got one with the dope planet 1 graphics (just like yours), I really like more than the upcoming ones ('crystal cave' and 'volcano'). Can't wait to ride my lokal park here in Dortmund (Germany) with it. Seems to be killer for riding bowls and concrete parks.

[@JonBishopSkate]

Nice one dude! Have fun !!

[@scrappyhustler7467]

Awesome video and review I just picked up a mike vallely street plant manmouth deck for 35 bucks from now till Xmas most boards are on sale jtlu all know.

[@danm_journey]

Nice set up video thanks dude. What size risers do you have on with the indies and 58mm spits? 1/8?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah dude, just an 8th, probably get away with none, but I like them loose, and I don’t like bite 😂

[@danm_journey]

@@JonBishopSkate mate no risers on 58mm would have me eating concrete for sure haha, thanks for getting back to me dude

[@luca.s.creative]

Great review, thanks a lot! Now that I’ve watched this, I can’t wait to getting hands on one. I want to set it up with the slide surfskate trucks though, was wondering whether I’ll have issues because the deck has no wheel wells.

[@JDCarterMusic]

real nice! Keep it up mang

[@98Bullfrog]

Love your stuff John 👍👍

[@JonBishopSkate]

Many thanks for tuning in Carl !

[@bennerdan]

Thanks very much for sharing this video dude.

[@JonBishopSkate]

Many thanks for checking in !!

[@skater_scott]

Awesome Jon!

[@caveirarj]

Nice tricks on your new setup !

[@JonBishopSkate]

Many thanks for tuning in dude

[@tim.jenkins75]

like that nose pivot or pick ??? at 9:35 ... very nice !!!!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Hey dude, Yeah, pivot on the front truck, then rock back in forwards. I’m spinning in the backside direction. The dream is to come straight in with no rock ?

[@goofyfootgreg]

Picked up a Santa Cruz Screaming Hand with the Cruz Missile Concave II recently. Now if I could only get over my illness so I can give it a go…🤷‍♂️

[@JonBishopSkate]

Get well soon and let me know how it goes !

[@justspacegoatfarts]

love the set-up and review vids , also great leverage on the missus , look jon got a new board ,hint hint , lol

[@JonBishopSkate]

Ha, More purchase for a new purchase😂

[@markdearlove8634]

Nice review and an enviable bag of tricks. I've been riding the Winkowski aquatic night deck until recently. Same shape I think. I feel it might have been a bit big for my slight 5ft 9in frame and I'm feeling more comfy on a Dog Town M80 at only 8.8in wide. 🤙💥

[@JonBishopSkate]

Nice, yeah it’s a big un !!

[@68644731]

I'm Brazilian and I live in Brazil. Congratulations on the videos. I really like your explanations. I have a sector nine sandedge with sidewinder with bones rard bushings at the bottom and independent orange at the top and I thought of putting it in this shape (and the wheelbase will go up to two inches more because the sidewinder wheels are offset one inch more on each axis. Could you do this test for me to see if it's a good skateboard surfing? I think it will be very, very good. You will need to put a peds so the wheel doesn't scrape on the shape. My wheels are 66mm. And my sidewinder is 9 inches. Thanks I will send this message in English too in case KZbin doesn't put the translation feature. I do not know English . wow

[@Unoriginal3]

Kick flips on these!!!!

[@SkinnySkates]

I got my EggZilla 2 two days before I got the Winkoski VX that just came today. The Winkoski feels tiny. 😂

[@jasinalispago6398]

Nice review mate, keep it up! I am really glad that there are another taller riders out there. I am also 6.3, and I was wondering how this deck felt, because it’s kinda short? Should i give it a chance? Thank you man! Cheers

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah dude, there’s not too much nose, but the wheelbase is good as is the real estate for bigger feet!

[@jasinalispago6398]

@@JonBishopSkate ok, thank you. I appreciate it. Cheers

[@mellamorodrigo9516]

If I ask for this exact deck, but with 32 inch length and options for 17 and 18 inch wheelbase, would that be too much to ask?

[@friscotecsk8s119]

Hi Jon, I just ordered this deck because you have me really curious about the Cruise Missile 2 concave. This also has a wide nose (my favorite thing about my current Andy Anderson Heron 9.13) I don't see you ripping this one- because of length? I want to do a short unboxing vid- could I have permission to mention your video? I'm not monetized, btw. Just an old bloke learning how to skate!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Great stuff, it’d be an honour, more is more !! Many thanks for touching base !

[@BobWeaver3000]

sick! sidenote: I put one of those warning stickers on the side of my mini-ramp. hahaha Skate or Die brotha!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Ha! That’s the perfect place 😂

[@Toxination1]

What about the Natas Kitten??

[@JonBishopSkate]

Sadly haven’t ridden that one ??

[@gagedunthorne4994]

Are the hollow 159 you are using mids? Is that why you have risers? Also are you using stock bushings? Have the same build for starting bowl riding and I don't want to get wheel bite haha

[@JonBishopSkate]

Hey dude These are just standard Indie hollow forged. I use Bones Hardcore Medium bushings. The 1/8 riser allows them to be fairly loose without the bite !

[@tahseen_al-qureshi]

Wicked! Have you ever tried Indy 169´s?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, I have them on my downhill long wheel base setup 👍

[@brunoiskovich3459]

What trucks and wheels on the winkaoski deck?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Indy 159 (same as the man himself) and 58mm Spitfire OG classics

[@68644731]

Sou brasileiro e moro no Brasil. Parabéns pelos vídeos . Gosto muito das suas explicações . Eu tenho um sandedge da sector nine com sidewinder com buchas bones rard na parte de baixo e independente laranja na parte de cima e pensei em colocar ele esse shape ( sendo que o entre eicho vai subir para duas polegadas a mais pois as rodas da sidewinder são deslocadas uma polegada a mais em cada eixo . Será que você poderia fazer esse teste para mim para ver se fica um bom surfe skate ? Eu acho que vai ficar muito muito bom . Obrigado Vou mandar essa mensagem em inglês também caso o KZbin não colocar o recurso de tradução . Eu não sei inglês . Valeuuuu

[@stuggim]

The 10inch Griptape fits? Thought the deck was 10.3 or something? Cheers

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, just about, it’s only 10.3 at the very tips of the front foot curve ?!

[@jeepnypitpits]

Will a Independent stage 4 size 166 ok with that board?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, I recon ?!

[@777TheChrist]

I’m getting this deck with 65mm wheels. Would 6mm riser pads be sufficient?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, I recon risers will be a good idea, I used to run 61mm wheels on loose indy trucks with a 1/4” riser ?!

[@777TheChrist]

@@JonBishopSkate thanks for the response!!

[@MegaKubel]

Hey! Thanks for the review. You’re an inspiration! I’m also a musician guitarist and I’m finding it really difficult to overcome the fear of hurting myself and not being able to play. The paste you progres is pretty amazing! My question about the setup is: do you find the Winkowsky being lighter and higher quality than the Kendall reissue? I have a Winkowsky birdcage (same shape as your deck) and Salba tiger. The tiger feels heavier and … „cheaper” I mean the wood itself. Wonder if you have the same impresion?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, now you say it, the Wink did feel lighter? The Snake is sturdy and both decks seem to be excellent in terms of quality??

[@eliasvaldiviezodelgado6100]

Hi bro.. What do you think about a Tom knox 10 x 31 with 149 indys??

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah man, sounds fun !!

[@68644731]

This sector nine has on the website the information of 13 inches between axles and there in this Japanese video it says 16 inches I don't know if it's a mistake or if they already made the axle-to-axle measurement compensation as I explained earlier. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ3Go42KrN1roM0

[@JonBishopSkate]

Hey Dude Many thanks for tuning in. Yeah the wheelbase between the axles changes from truck to truck. So the wheelbase is measured between the holes. The holes are 15” apart on this deck. Cheers JB

[@olsfsodgnb]

What trucks (width of trucks) on this set up?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Hey dude? Indy 159

[@olsfsodgnb]

@@JonBishopSkate Hey Jon! Thanks so much for replying. I was really considering 169s on a 9" surf style deck but ill be using quite wide chunky wheels. 60mm slimeballs 97a. What would you think?

[@JonBishopSkate]

@@olsfsodgnb yeah, you will get a fair bit of overlap with 169s and 60mm Slimeballs on a 9” deck? Not a problem, just depends what you like?

[@Brusselsproutsk8]

You can never have enough decks🤣

[@rileysmithphoto]

Hey mate! Ever tried 169's? I think you would dig them. Cheers!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, love them, I have them on my long wheelbase setup !

[@rileysmithphoto]

@@JonBishopSkate Wicked mate. I figured as much. Thanks for everything. Enjoy!

[@damianb2374]

Jon this has got to be very nice on vert?

[@JonBishopSkate]

I’d imagine it would work a treat?!!

[@Pinio1919]

NICE VID!

[@jamesmccloud5218]

Dude I got one of those Winooski 10.34 boards during 2020. Now I refuse to ride anything else!!

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah, the big easy !

[@rkulla]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@akira83842]

Мой любимый шейп доска на ней я научился bs boardslide to fs rocknroll in miniramp

[@mdwrr]

Cool vid John. Why 159 size trucks for such a wide board and your height? I’d think you’d go 169 at least.

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah dude, could go bigger for sure, I just like that 159 feel ??

[@mdwrr]

I am 6’5” which is why I was interested. I was on 169s then switched to the new Ace 77s which are 9.5”. They feel a little clumsy at first, especially with 50-50s but I like the stability in bowls. The shorter trucks may be better for all the lip tricks you do

[@JonBishopSkate]

@@mdwrr yeah dude, I recon there are up and down sides to both options?!

[@droog79]

Winkowski rides 159s!

[@miniramptricks1986]

U like your conical wheels then

[@JonBishopSkate]

Yeah dude, OG Classics !

[@68644731]

have you ever seen this video of a sufskate in a shape like this one with C4 and C5? I think with the sidewinder it will be better than with any truk they have ever invented. That's my opinion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIiZcquort2Ulac

[@thenon_kommunzchannel9353]

No need for rational bro. We skate and we love getting a new rig just to get a new rig. 😃

[@Gunjaroo]

Jiggery Pokery…bloody poms.

[@Gunjaroo]

Sounds like something Prince Andrew would get up to…

[@Gunjaroo]

Sick board though mate🤟🏼

[@davidleeashkenazi8992]

The Snake is more comfortable for me

[@JonBishopSkate]

Agreed, I think it could be I’m more used to it though ??

[@davidleeashkenazi8992]

@@JonBishopSkate I dunno, something about the Winkowski just throws me off - it doesn't feels balanced and for some odd reason the concave feels flatter, just awkward

[@JonBishopSkate]

@@davidleeashkenazi8992 yeah I keep on making the mistake of thinking the Kendall would be perfect if it had a bit more nose, problem is as soon as you mess with it, it’s not the same as the Kendall. I think it turns out the Kendall is perfect as it is ??

[@davidleeashkenazi8992]

@@JonBishopSkate for me it is :)

[@error_1234]

Front grind was sick

[@reub_]

hey its reuben, What is your discord name and #?

[@JonBishopSkate]

Hey Rubes, it’s a patreon thing, but I’ll send it to Yer dad 😂