Jones H Bar SG 2 5 and Jones H Bar Pack | Surly ECR

[@HTS888]

Thanks for taking the time here, I am going to place my order ;) Stew UK

[@brittweir8844]

Four Rose 🌹 ❤, Noticed first off,😮, Than I knew that it was going to be a great video 👍🇺🇸🫡, I’ve been running the Mr. Jones Bars for years 😊🥃

[@Joshua-jj4xn]

Thank you..exactly what I needed to see before buying these

[@BradBeaird]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jamesfuller7903]

I put a Jones bar on my Surly Krampus. It’s been a game changer for me. I have a chronic neck issue and it puts me in a very comfortable position relative to my injury.

[@BradBeaird]

I've been a fan so far. I'm happy with the position, sweep, and overall comfort since using them.

[@gregknipe8772]

very interested in the stem length and rise you have selected. I am shifting from moloko bars to jones bars, but am still gathering info before ordering the bars. deciding on regular or 2.5 models.

[@KentuckyCycling]

You were running the Surly Moloko bars prior to these, right? How do you think the two bars compare? And was it hard to adjust to the 45-degree sweep? Having ridden both, which sweep do you prefer?

[@bigpimpinbig1]

nice video! Good work. I just bought the same bar and also have a Surly (Ogre). Thought I'd leave 35mm of spacers and hope that would give me enough flexibility. Can't really tell on the video if you use any spacers with the bar?

[@TheScatman89]

Hey Brad! Love all the videos and your bike and gear looks awesome. Do you have the name / a link to the brake levers, and gear shifters you use, on the Jones Bar? Is some special ones required? Thanks a bunch from a newbie. Cheers

[@BradBeaird]

You don’t need special brake or shifters, these are the stock ones that came with the Surly.

[@generalimac]

This is exactly what I am looking for. Just got a 2020 Trek Allant +7S. I immediately wanted to change the bars and pedals.

[@BradBeaird]

Glad it was helpful!

[@generalimac]

Brad Beaird quick question, just got my Jones Bars 2.5. What is the name of the bags you use to hold your water bottles. I didn’t see it in the description. I have a Trek Allant with the stagger, and I’m trying to figure out how I can carry stuff on my frame. www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/allant/allant-9-9s-stagger/p/30259/

[@BradBeaird]

Revelate designs mountain feed bags

[@generalimac]

Brad Beaird thx!

[@johnnyg2983]

These bars make a world of difference! Feels like a different bike!! No more wrist pain, you can sit Upright and cruze and drink a coffee, or get aero and really get where your going, fkn fenomina 👍👍

[@sebumgold3108]

I noticed you had the Surly Moloko's on the back wall. I am stuck between the two. Care to comment on wich sweep is more comfortable, aside from the rise? Thanks.

[@dalove06]

Jones Bar and a shot of that whiskey on the table go hand in hand!

[@BradBeaird]

Yes!

[@recyclespinning9839]

Thanks for review. I have trekking bars on one bike. I'm thinking of getting a vintage Trek 970 to use as all around tour/gravel and think the 2.5 rise might give good position on the vintage mountain bikes geometry.

[@patrickrossi7279]

Thank you from High Springs.

[@TheTrakker]

Thanks for the video. I've been thinking about some more touring style bars. You've shared some common sense points that help me to choose. Thank you

[@BradBeaird]

Glad it was helpful!

[@007mwn]

Where are those fabric cup holders in your list above?

[@BradBeaird]

They are available from revelate designs website or you can check out these that are a competitor: amzn.to/3yltCfx

[@randylayhe4279]

I like your iPad holder on the bars. Binging shows on the bike.

[@BradBeaird]

😂

[@vermonthillsumc]

So helpful. Just ordered mine.

[@BradBeaird]

Awesome!

[@MrClintscott]

I am trying to decide whether to get the regular h loop bar or 2.5 for my hardtail? If I get the 2.5 would I need to adjust my seat height? With my regular flat bars my seat is pretty much even with my handlebars

[@chrisl2285]

I put my Jones 2.5 bar on my Hunqapillar, with the same 120mm stem I had been using for regular MTB bars and it felt really good. However, I wanted to experiment with Jeff Jones' fit philosophy so I checked and found his SWB complete has a 17 degree, 80mm stem and since my Hunqapillar has an effective top-tube length 2cm longer than the Jones SWB, I bought a 17 degree, 60mm stem and mounted the Loop bar. I haven't had a chance to ride it yet, but I look forward to trying it out. I know it's only a rough approximation of the Jones fit, but hopefully it can help me decide if a Jones bike is in my future.

[@danielbrown285]

Brad just getting ready to order a loop bar After seeing your video I think the 2.5 would work better for me Thanks!!! What shifters setup are you using. A friend of mine has Paul’s thumbies I have not seen them but he likes them. Any thoughts. Thanks again!!!!

[@BradBeaird]

I’m just using the sram NX that came with my 1 x 12

[@waynescottturner]

Stumbled across your channel as a newbie to gravel biking (long time MTBer), and really appreciate both the trip reports as well as the detail on equipment, and especially your own custom mods to make your equipment JUST how you want it. I had never even heard of Kydex, but I have a feeling I'll need some, just like my using some Tyvek for backpacking! Have a Salsa Journeyman Flat Bar and am looking at the Surly Moloko bars as a step up as I am not sure I would get to full touring needs, so if you need to get rid of those ones hanging on the wall let me know! :) Thanks for the efforts on the videos.

[@ritchdieger6768]

Brad, did you have to change your stem to get bars closer? If not, what length and angle degree stem are you using. If so what did you have before and what did you go to? Im asking as I have the SG 2.5 shipping to me now.

[@BradBeaird]

I didn't change my stem at all. Just the stock one.

[@ritchdieger6768]

@@BradBeaird thx Brad for info! Did you have to replace your cables for longer ones?

[@sailingaeolus]

How would you compare the Jones to Surly Moloko bars I see hanging on the wall in the background?

[@BradBeaird]

I like them better with a bit more rise as well as a bit wider.

[@sailingaeolus]

@@BradBeaird Thanks. I was guessing something like that as the Moloko were hanging on the wall and the Jones were on the bike.

[@Hootyhoo-jq9vq]

Can the 710 be cut down to a 660 if it isn’t working? I don’t understand why there are two sizes.

[@MarkNewton-kn8xi]

With these bars, how do you like the foam grips vs rubber grips?

[@BradBeaird]

I actually love the foam grips. In the summer of you get sweaty they are great.

[@fotografiabymiguel]

One of the better reviews for the Jones H bar, Brad. I may have passed you on the Katy Trail a few weeks back. How do you like the Jones H vs the Koga Denham bar? Thanks in advance.

[@BradBeaird]

Could be we passed! I haven't ever had the opportunity to ride with the Koga Bars, however I've seen them and they look good. I like the rise of the Loop 2.5. I like the sweep as well as the ability to mount the accessories easily, things like phone and camera up there is really nice compared to my historical bars, etc. whatbars.com/ is a really great site to compaire two if you are interested. Really nice to compare sweep and layout.

[@fotografiabymiguel]

@@BradBeaird Thanks for the reply. As I am getting more into touring, I may be leaning towards the Jones H Bar SG 2 5. whatbars.com is a great resource. Thanks again for the recommendations.

[@electreked]

Nice set up ! I have a Koga Denham bar on my 29er Mukluk and really like them.

[@BradBeaird]

Those are great looking bars! I've seen them around but never rode a set.

[@smokeycanuck8058]

Do you like it more than the Moloko? Thinking of swapping out the drop bars on my Long Haul Trucker for one of the ALT bars e.g. Jones. Thanks.

[@BradBeaird]

I personally do like them better than the Moloko. I've been happy with the rise and the sweep.

[@mickeytaylor1499]

Great review! I also have the Jones H bar on my 2018 Salsa Marrakesh straight bar version. Really like them. Only problem is my hands fall asleep sometimes. Jones recommends tilting them down a little just wondering if you have had this problem? Also I have been looking for a bag for my bars. Could you do a short review a little more descriptive.

[@BradBeaird]

I’ve only had just a little issue with numbness but found that cycling gloves with gel pads eliminated that issue for me. I’m not sure I could tilt mine down much and it still be comfortable but that’s an interesting thought. I’ll do a more detailed review of the bag for you :)

[@sunildingankar8657]

Hi, I am from India. I got the Jones Loop bars, but I don't have the grips. To import from US, it will cost me almost double. I did not see any 205 mm length size handlebar grips in India. Can I use handlebar tape?

[@BradBeaird]

I’m sure you could.

[@sunildingankar8657]

@@BradBeaird Thank you for the reply. I was searching for longer grips, I found one pair of ESI grips (though the colour of the grips won't match my bicycle color) which are 209.5 mm long. Can I use them?

[@BradBeaird]

@@sunildingankar8657 my current grips are 203mm so I believe those could work. Even if you had to trim them a bit it should be ok

[@sunildingankar8657]

@@BradBeaird One of my friends got the Jones grips from US for me. Now, next issue is, I had previously installed Deore and Alivio shifter with indicator on the right & left side respectively. I may need to change the shifters. Which one do you suggest. I have 3 x 10 Deore.

[@JensMHA]

Timely, I am pondering these exact ones for my soon to be built ECR currently sitting in several crates in the dining room, its either those or the Surly raised Open Bar, I have the latter and it is proper good, but must admit being a bit intrigued by the Jones bar.

[@BradBeaird]

I’m a big fan so far of the Jones Bars. But I also realize it’s a personal preference for sure.

[@michaelshireman9075]

Since the Moloko bars are hanging on your wall, I am assuming you prefer the Jones 2.5. Is that correct??

[@BradBeaird]

I do prefer the Jones Bars to the Moloko. I like the rise and the sweep better personally.

[@gregknipe8772]

@@BradBeaird have you placed one bar over the other to compare the sweep angles? close to sending money to mr jones...

[@BradBeaird]

@@gregknipe8772 got to whatbars.com/ and you can overlay moloko and Jones loop to see the angle difference. It's a great tool to compare bars for sweep, etc.

[@onedaywellallbedead4338]

Just ordered the same bars. I’m currently cycling France to Turkey & can’t wait to fit them. They’re gonna be a game changer....😎👍

[@BradBeaird]

Hope you love them the way I do :)

[@onedaywellallbedead4338]

@@BradBeaird They're a little bit difficult to get in Europe as sell out very quickly, so had to settle for silver Should have them fitted by end of next week. Can't wait.....😁😎

[@Lepercurtidoo]

Thank you for yet again a nice video review. You have convinced me. Although i have a regular Jones bar ( the former owner has cut a bit the ends which i regret he did ) i feel a little bit uncomfortable so i would definitely prefer the 2.5 version. I would like to know the length and eventual raise of the stem you have set up there together with the bar if possible. Thanks

[@BradBeaird]

I’m just using the stock stem that came with the ECR.

[@Lepercurtidoo]

@@BradBeaird I'm always impressed by your super quick replies. Much appreciated. I see on the surly website " ProMax 4 bolt, 31.8" but no information about the actual length of the stem. I guess i will order a 60mm stem just to make sure my back and neck will feel more comfortable on long rides ;)

[@BradBeaird]

Yeah my stock stem is a 70mm if that helps :)

[@katzsteel]

What width did you get? 710? Also, is this your go to handlebar now? I see the Surly in the background. I’ve been trying to find a replacement for my recently upgraded hybrid from threaded to threadless.

[@BradBeaird]

710 and yes, this is my go to on the ECR. I have the Moloko on a Trek FX3.

[@kevindean9613]

I've gone back to this bar , yes it's heavy but after weighing my other bars that require ergon grips the Jones 2.5 is lighter & has more hand positions.

[@BradBeaird]

I still love the bar. On my ride, weight is the least of my worries haha.

[@placeholdera5512]

What grips are you using that are longer?

[@BradBeaird]

These are the foam grips that came with the Jones Bars.

[@ericpmoss]

I wish Jones made a bar with a 30 degree sweep. I like the h-bar, but everyone has their own body geometry, and on my bike, 45 degrees works great for out-of-saddle climbing, but not long hours pedaling in the saddle.

[@BradBeaird]

You might check out the Velo Orange Crazy Bars

[@gregknipe8772]

jones only makes products that work for Jeff Jones. he is pretty open about this. a good thing. Jones pushes the envelope for others to follow. a good thing. velo orange sources a variety of bars. its really worth looking and asking around for your needs. lots of cool choices.

[@PaulSpehar]

What bar tape were you mentioning you got from amazon?

[@BradBeaird]

I used this: amzn.to/2QgDCmC

[@hobbymanlp]

What are the bags holding your water bottles on the handlebar?

[@BradBeaird]

Revelate Designs Mountain Feed Bags

[@hobbymanlp]

@@BradBeaird Thanks! Because of your videos I hope to do my very first bike packing trip this year

[@BradBeaird]

Hey that’s awesome man! Where are you located?

[@vickaiser]

Why did you prefer the Jones bar over the Moloko?

[@BradBeaird]

For me it was sweep and the 2.5 rise built into this particular bar.

[@Jaydad4701]

You got any stuff for the FX3 you wanna sell that you don’t have use for?

[@BradBeaird]

Not at the moment, haha. My son has taken it over and rides it now. That 17 year old body puts me to shame, lolol.

[@Jaydad4701]

Brad Beaird I know the pain my Son who turned 16 today is 6,3 and wears size 15 shoes.

[@rowerowewyprawy]

And what about Moloko? Is Jones better?

[@BradBeaird]

I liked it much better than the Moloko bars personally. Found the rise better and the sweep better as well.

[@shorelinerach01]

Do you still enjoy your Jones Bars? Do your hands or fingers ever go numb? About to pull the plug on these. 🙂

[@BradBeaird]

I do still like them. I don’t find my hands or fingers get numb as there are a variety of hand positions to move around.

[@shorelinerach01]

@@BradBeaird Thank you for your timely response. Your videos have helped in the decision making process.

[@BradBeaird]

You are welcome! Glad it was helpful.

[@joeyvonny5146]

Are these the 710mm ?

[@BradBeaird]

Yes, 710mm

[@johnalex6309]

What the hell is "hythe"? If you mean "height", pronounce it like "kite", dude.

[@BradBeaird]

Haha, aye aye captain.