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@victoralexander37674 жыл бұрын
Dude. I should do a video entitled why Jonny Arnett is the 🐐(of youtube basketball vids)lol I feel like you provide the best info and POV on great topics of discussion for basketball. Of course I have a critique and it is simply that pippen got cheated out of a finals appearance against the knicks and they could've actually matched up well against the rockets.
@nocomment14694 жыл бұрын
I'm confused as to why you said Carmelo is a NBA champion . Great video though
@aussieozzysmoothchillrasta45984 жыл бұрын
Jonny Arnett -NBA KZbinr Yo my man this was 1 of the best High IQ Basketball Vids I’ve Seen..Why has YT hidden u all these years..anyway peace🙌🏼🤙🏼✌🏻
@fendertremolo97934 жыл бұрын
How many times are you going to say "OKC"?
@jonnyarnett4 жыл бұрын
@@nocomment1469 Sorry if I was confusing, I was talking about him being an NBA champion under the alternate reality of him being drafted by the Pistons instead of the Nuggets
@Ciscoviana4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you went straight into the count down without a silly intro or sponsorship was great.
@emperorza57774 жыл бұрын
Francisco Vianan I was actually surprised
@Buttington_Headerson4 жыл бұрын
This man makes great stuff
@SmooveShotta4 жыл бұрын
Shit happened so fast I wasn’t even ready
@klaytontichenor74124 жыл бұрын
I was legit looking for this comment
@edwardcui75354 жыл бұрын
the intro song he has now is great though
@SportsTalkWithTroy4 жыл бұрын
What if Arvydas Sabonis (The Original Unicorn) joins Portland when Drafted in 1986. Joining Clyde Drexler and an already deep Trail Blazers roster.
@ashwincheekala15664 жыл бұрын
Sports Talk With Troy I agree with u 100% easily the greatest player to never have his prime in NBA
@macewbee4 жыл бұрын
Dom2k pointed this out
@brendangilmartin40024 жыл бұрын
@Terry Bogard or MJ
@waliahmad30304 жыл бұрын
Good one dude because that would've been scary. I'll add to that and what if they held on to Drozen Petrovic at the same time. And if you remember him then you will probably agree that he was Klay Thompson before Klay Thompson
@NothinButGame4 жыл бұрын
Probably would have been the greatest center ever right now
@Adrian1018824 жыл бұрын
A couple I can think of off the top of my head: - what if Shaq stayed in Orlando? - what if Drazen Petrovic never died? - what if Kobe played for the team that originally drafted him (Charlotte)? - what if Tim Duncan joined McGrady & Grant Hill in Orlando as they (the Magic) were aiming for? - what if Lebron never left the Heat?
@jesuslu28604 жыл бұрын
- what if Shaq stayed in Orlando? Win at least one championship - what if Drazen Petrovic never died? maybe the best european ever in the NBA - what if Kobe played for the team that originally drafted him (Charlotte)? is Kobe god, it would be better in statistics but without rings in Hornets - what if Tim Duncan joined McGrady & Grant Hill in Orlando as they (the Magic) were aiming for? a Dinasty - what if Lebron never left the Heat? LeBron win 6 MVP's but withouut rings
@p-maq4 жыл бұрын
Tracy McGrady, Tim Duncan, Grant Hill. That would be a trio.
@lukecash35002 жыл бұрын
What if the Sixers didn't screw Wilt out of the part ownership agreement the deceased owner had made, and that team stuck together?
@nix420stuntd72 жыл бұрын
LeBron Heat vs. Curry and Durant Warriors. It almost happened too. GOD BLESS bro
@boydbeasley37512 жыл бұрын
What if Lynn Bias had lived after he was drafted by the Boston Celtics.
@jpmnky4 жыл бұрын
The thing about Len Bias that nobody talks about is the Reggie Lewis tragedy that followed seven years later. I know they're two separate things, but the Celtics were finally looking like they had a future - then tragedy hit them again in June. The Reggie Lewis story is just as tragic. Maybe more even.
@chrisborders25524 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with number 1. If Len Bias and Reggie Lewis didnt pass away, I believe the Celtic winning tradition would have continued through the 90s.
@cranekraken24 Жыл бұрын
Yup. There's a very good chance the C's would have banner 20 up in the rafters by now.
@Zecamilleo4 жыл бұрын
to this day, i still wake up at night wondering what could have been a healthy prime derrick rose.
@mobettadenu13254 жыл бұрын
Me too..damn I was routing fa D.Rose
@deadmanlyndon4 жыл бұрын
D Rose will always be the one that hurt me the most, we were robbed of seeing this man's greatness. Smh. At least he still got life and money.
@bobnumbderrd73794 жыл бұрын
Rose definitely almost A.I. status with no injuries probably better lokey 🤫
@cloudnein34834 жыл бұрын
@@bobnumbderrd7379 I wouldn't put him above Iverson but he'd be damn close
@michaelandre61574 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty excited about Morant, though. I hope he can become the D-Rose 2.0 which we've never had
@theeagle74964 жыл бұрын
What if Steve Nash never left Dallas mavericks in 2004
@717jeezy4 жыл бұрын
I wouldve liked to see if the suns traded for KG but shaun marion didn't wanna go to Minnesota . he must've had a no trade clause in his contract otherwise it wouldn't have been up to him . i remember all the suns fans werw excited to see nash amare and KG when the news broke out but then Marions whiny ass had to ruin it so we traded for a washed up shaq that couldn't even run up the court anymore. Only what if but we'll never know .
@theeagle74964 жыл бұрын
@@717jeezy yeah I would of loved to see that trade it ruined Steve Nash carer the Shaq one
@717jeezy4 жыл бұрын
@@theeagle7496 they never even needed shaq what so ever. The suns got bounced out the 1st round of the playoffs following the shaq trade and with a full season with shaq they didn't even make the playoffs due to a tough west. After that failure they got rid of shaq and the following season they would make it all the way to the western conference finals where they would lose go the lakers in 6. That was the last great year of those Nash/Amare suns . If they would've at least kept Marion then perhaps they could've made a finals in one of those last 3 playoffs.
@danielclark69124 жыл бұрын
@@717jeezy he didn't have a no trade clause but his contract was almost up and they wouldn't do the trade without an extension
@hoodiereborn3164 жыл бұрын
in dirks shadow forever and simply doesn't have 2 MVPs and has a ring if he stays long enough
@DOLLAMAC1904 жыл бұрын
The CP3 trade still pisses me off til this day
@Rakeemgrant4 жыл бұрын
Mee too fam. Being from L.A. I was pissed
@Tfields19794 жыл бұрын
Thank Mark Cuban. He was the one who threw the biggest fit when that trade went down.
@danielclark69124 жыл бұрын
@The Book Of ƬЯXPXP the nba was trying to sell the then Hornets. They knew that if they messed that trade up then the team wouldn't sell. Turns out they made the right decision
@rdanose65404 жыл бұрын
Cp3 got blocked by the league and Stern from getting a Ring...he and Kobe would have been hella match
@TataShvaler4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing, so far I haven't seen all too many Hornets fans complaining about that trade being rejected. The ownership made the right decision.
@chrispage61984 жыл бұрын
I'll remember the day Lenny Bias died as if it were a family member. I was crushed and still am. For people that aren't old enough to have seen him play, just go by this quote from coach K. "Michael Jordan and Len Bias are the 2 best college basketball players I've ever watched"
@FuShengAlex4 жыл бұрын
I was visiting the USA that summer and I saw that on ESPN as a 10 year old. That scared me, I had trouble sleeping that night android-home i vowed never to touch any kind or drugs. Never been drunk or smoked anything in my life.
@gun-nut Жыл бұрын
Then coach k didn't watch jabbar because jabbar is the greatest college player ever
@randlemarsh Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@abhaypancharathi3866 Жыл бұрын
@@randlemarsh what
@CLewey444 жыл бұрын
I think one of the biggest what-ifs that gets overlooked was when Dr. J was drafted by the Atlanta Hawks and was slated to play alongside Pete Maravich. That could have be a pretty dynamic tandem. Another HUGE what-if that most people aren't aware of was in the mid to late 70s the Buffalo Braves (now the Clippers) were pretty loaded. During that stretch they had THREE ROYs (McAdoo, Ernie D and Dantley), an MVP/3x scoring leader in McAdoo, an iron man in Randy Smith (all-star), monster rebounder in Swen Nater, HOF coach with Jack Ramsay and they actually had Moses Malone for about five minutes. Had this team had a good front office, they could have literally been a dynasty I feel that would have completely changed the landscape of the NBA for the next generation of players. Never understood why Ernie D had such a monster rookie season but then his minutes were immediately cut down to 20-something per game after that. If you look long term, and these trades probably wouldn't have happened, but within a season of the Buffalo franchise moving to San Diego, they also added World B. Free and an injured Bill Walton. Who knows what would have happened with that team.
@MuddyPoppins4 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@kimtaphorn91753 жыл бұрын
Great what if, and they liked each other and had a good chemistry im think they had terrorized the league in the 70s
@deetheoriginal31172 жыл бұрын
What if D-Wade never had his meniscus removed
@khaitranngoc41762 жыл бұрын
It's the Clippers, It's the history of the Clippers.
@stevencolon1124 жыл бұрын
Once I learned about who Len Bias was, and what happened to him, I've always thought that he would've changed the entire NBA and we could've been talking about him as the GOAT and instead of having the Jordan & James GOAT convo, we could've made a case for Bias as well. Love your content!!!!
@richardtyler8922 Жыл бұрын
I remember Len Bias. He was truly a 6'8" Jordan.
@bubasaba4 жыл бұрын
what if dražen petrovič didnt die
@gustavogiacominpinho39874 жыл бұрын
I thought the same, was surprised that didn't make the list.
@SlappedOut4 жыл бұрын
he died?
@bubasaba4 жыл бұрын
@@SlappedOut yes, car crash in germany, not even in his prime imo
@SlappedOut4 жыл бұрын
Ron Košak damn thats crazy i see why the kings just fell off
@lb71644 жыл бұрын
isaiah Giro Drazen Petrovic didnt play for the kings bro. You’re thinking of Peja Stojakovic
@kimhernandez76454 жыл бұрын
The Jordan never leaving basketball part was understandable after watching The Last Dance. He was basically exhausted mentally and, emotionally after the controversy surrounding his gambling scandal, his souring relationship with the Bulls management, and the death of his father. If there's a silver lining in that period , it was the much needed rest that he got and the hunger to win for another championship run. Most likely, if it wasn't for that season, we wouldn't have the 72-10 Bulls, or the Flu Game, or the sixth NBA championship (we never know).
@yd9454 жыл бұрын
What if the magic allowed Tim Duncan's family on the team plane that's an underrated what if
@josephbradberry40894 жыл бұрын
That will always be the #1 "What If" in basketball. I still remember it like it was yesterday . . . extremely heartbreaking!
@SuperIvanGrozni4 жыл бұрын
What if "The Malice at the Palace" didn't happen? Would Reggie Miller have a ring?!
@eriklakeland38574 жыл бұрын
That 04-05 Pacers team was so strong. Jermaine O’Neal is an underrated star player. Ron Artest was averaging 25pts/game to start the year on top of his great defense (he never reached that level after the Brawl). The trade for Stephen Jackson strengthened them even further. As someone who grew up in Indy, the Malice at the Palace destroyed the image of the franchise. If you ask me the fan support has never been the same. It has certainly recovered quite a bit, but tickets are hella cheap yet they still struggle to consistently fill the arena for good teams under both PG and Oladipo.
@leskobrandon6914 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion...yes!! They were like 6 - 2 coming into that game and had just put an ass whooping on the defending champs. They looked like they were on a mission. But it all certainly fell apart. Tough time being a pacer fan. And even tougher for Reggie!
@MrDwightsimon3 жыл бұрын
Malice at the Palace was awesome and it was worth it to have Reggie retire without a ring
@thewizzkidd4 жыл бұрын
What if Magic Jhonson never gets HIV
@PradigyMusicman4 жыл бұрын
He was already on the end of his career though by 91.....
@bigworm21294 жыл бұрын
@@PradigyMusicman Exactly. He finished 2nd in MVP in 1991 but was on his way down. That whole Laker team was aging quick. A healthy Magic maybe helps LA get a little further but Portland, Phoenix, Houston, and Seattle would have all taken them down eventually.
@Manny-nm8dh4 жыл бұрын
@@bigworm2129 Either way the Bulls had taken control of the NBA.
@realg52764 жыл бұрын
The Lakers may have added another player through trade or Free Agency and made a strong run at the title.
@realg52764 жыл бұрын
@@PradigyMusicman He had at least 3 good years left.
@kaibalfour23184 жыл бұрын
What if Brandon Roy never got hurt
@StandOnBizness54 жыл бұрын
Kai Balfour and Tmac
@717jeezy4 жыл бұрын
If roy never got hurt and they drafted KD instead of odin .
@nicochau79824 жыл бұрын
Roy was nuuuts
@roberto5red5rocky854 жыл бұрын
Portland would be the same
@videoorgy4 жыл бұрын
That's a good one. I think he, Lillard, and Aldridge would've had some overlap as a Big 3. Dude was silky smooth.
@jlolson533 жыл бұрын
Len Bias's death was the greatest WHAT IF by far, in my opinion. Nice video - and good catch acknowledging the amazing possible ramifications of a living Len Bias. One can only hope there are parallel dimensions where that possibility was realized (and two more titles for the Celtics!).
@bbkyjohnson Жыл бұрын
Lenny would have been the second best player in the league and surrounded by the best supporting cast ever in my opinion. He could have taken 2-3 years to fully develop while bird mchale and Parrish continued to do the heavy lifting. Anything less than 4 more titles with that group would have been disappointing in my opinion.
@jlolson53 Жыл бұрын
@@bbkyjohnson Your hypothetical legacy might've cemented the Bird Eera Celtics as the greatest team of all time. I'd like the believe that in some parallel universe that happened. But absent that, all we're left with is our glorious dreams. :)
@ComaAlpha Жыл бұрын
Benji is a much bigger What If
@jimboslice88004 жыл бұрын
What if I made good grades in school..
@369pendulum4 жыл бұрын
That's one hell of a what if for me too lol
@QuinnClips2473 жыл бұрын
😂
@edwardjayenaval82454 жыл бұрын
3:50 scared the hell out of me
@menkirdennis66864 жыл бұрын
Same, i got shook
@LegendOfKhaos124 жыл бұрын
Bruh same I shook
@dellbelphine87204 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@keifer72 жыл бұрын
Last year, I started getting into basketball and learning about it; started loving it. All I knew it that D Rose “used to be really good.” My buddy told me the story, showed me a highlight video and I CRIED.
@bricefleckenstein96664 жыл бұрын
I can actually think of one "what if" to rival Len Bias. What if BILL WALTON had been healthy for HIS career in the NBA? He had ONE mostly-healthy year at Portland (led them to a championship) and ONE healthy year with Boston (6'th Man of the Year award) which was also the ONLY year he managed to put in more than 65 games in a single season between injuries. Could we have been looking at the only player that DIDN'T play with Bill Russell to get 8+ rings or 4+ in a row?
@Noname-ni1dy4 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton biggest what if ever. Could dominate a game without scoring. Arvydas Sabinas coming to league when he was the best player in the world also a huge what if.
@nza1804 Жыл бұрын
Clayton Crowley did a great vid on this.Good job
@petermoss208 Жыл бұрын
Walton never makes a list because he brought us a ring in Portland before the injury. Where guys like Iverson, TMac and Mark Aguire couldn’t get past their rivals, Walton was able to bring a ring, against Dr. J in his prime. And because Portland is maybe the smallest market in the entire NBA per capita, we have nothing but love and admiration. Although we could have been in the finals conversation every year, he did win a ring, in his prime, with Portland, which is super difficult. Not to mention another one with the 85’ Celtics. I think we feel for him more than he does himself.
@bricefleckenstein9666 Жыл бұрын
@@petermoss208 He's still a big what if, though. HOW MANY rings would he have had he had more than one healthy season (1985-1986)?
@damn.16724 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel and it's already one of the best basketball channels on the planet. No gay ass 3d intros, no overly suspenseful Korsemba type voice, and someone who actually talks about basketball past the 90s. Fire. 🔥
@vaughnrussell57723 жыл бұрын
Lol.... I like Mike but he is dramatic. I could see him narrating a movie trailer for an apocalyptic movie....
@DingisMaximus4 жыл бұрын
Melo would have learned how to play defense. Imagine what that would be like.
@1nf1ni7e_Gamers4 жыл бұрын
And the Pistons would have added that offense they lacked to actually win more than one time and then they would have gradually gave Melo the keys as the vets aged and Melo grew.
@hijodejames3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Billups & Melo made the WCF in 09 imagine what they would've done in the East for several years.
@alexandermiralles713 жыл бұрын
it would be like Klay's 3 and D but a much more superior version
@letranger72824 жыл бұрын
What if YAO and Mcgrady stay healthy
@Matthew_Broderick4 жыл бұрын
See the Series against Utah Jazz or Dallas Mavericks. It would be still just the first Round exit!!
@HMDPlays4 жыл бұрын
roberto5red5rocky points don’t mean everything... he was a super impactful player clearly you don’t watch ball
@shanesawyer51034 жыл бұрын
Yeah Yao & McGrady didn’t make great sense as a duo. McGrady couldn’t attack the rim with humongous Yao clogging the lane. Even if they both hadn’t gotten injured, I don’t know that they would’ve ever won a championship together. A better one is what if T Mac had stayed in Toronto? A prime Carter & a prime McGrady together from 2000-2010 would’ve been sick.
@azrielnguyen95864 жыл бұрын
McGrady and G Hill
@dominiqueedwards28474 жыл бұрын
@@shanesawyer5103 how u figure? Kobe n Shaq made it wrk....Yao n Tmac def clda won 2
@cmattjohnson16924 жыл бұрын
Len bias for sure he was gonna be great
@catherinelynnfraser20013 жыл бұрын
I think there is something that would have undermined him. He had a bad group around him and he partied with him. Something else would have brought him down.
@adrianp.11955 жыл бұрын
Jonny, I don’t know your age but I’m old enough to remember Len Bias. If he doesn’t die of cocaine overdose, here are some theories about events that may have taken place that would change basketball history. Tell me what your thoughts are on this... 1. Boston Celtics repeat as NBA Champions in ‘86 & ‘87 and not the Lakers in ‘87 & ‘88. 2. Detroit Pistons may not be repeat NBA Champions in ‘89 & ‘90. 3. Regardless of his Chronic Back Condition, Larry Bird concedes as the Alpha Dog to Len Bias and Bird’s career is extended in the process as he no longer is required to take on the primary role of the team. 4. Michael Jordan & the Bulls may not have won 6 NBA Championships during the 1990’s. 5. Len Bias’s direct rivalry to Michael Jordan would prevent his Airness from leaving the NBA to pursue Baseball during the middle of his prime years; remember, Michael did not have a direct rival after Bird & Magic retired. 6. Len Bias would have been a member of the 1992 U.S. Olympic Dream Team and not Clyde Drexler or Christian Lettner. 7. Celtics Fans would be collecting Bias Jerseys at the same rate as Bird’s 33; who is the best Celtic ever? 8. Celtics would be the team of the 80’s and not the Lakers. 9. Len Bias today would be in the conversation as the GOAT with Michael Jordan; sorry LBJ. 10. The Boston Celtics would be considered the best Franchise ever bar none; right now the Lakers are the best franchise by a nose.
@brendankittelson71584 жыл бұрын
Well said Adrian
@jamesmathew61644 жыл бұрын
ShadowAng
@JStarStar004 жыл бұрын
Adrian P. Bias was very good but he was very comparable to Chris Webber, who didn't turn his teams into dynasties.
@mprattyh34 жыл бұрын
@ShadowAngel saying the Lakers are "just lucky" is an absurd statement. If it was just the city then why aren't the Clippers, or even the Knicks, rasing banners in every decade? Also, Bias was not drug addict. There are multiple sources that say he was very straight edge and were, absolutely, shocked that he died of cocaine because him using drugs was not like him, at all. Reggie Lewis had a serious heart condition and him using cocaine is still just rumors. Even if he was, or wasn't, getting high his condition was still at the point where he shouldn't have been playing basketball.
@joeloomis34254 жыл бұрын
Have to admitt adding Bias to that 91 celtics team would of made them one hell of a contender for the Bulls-Pistons-Lakers that yr heck ya Got Dee Brown-Brian Shaw-Reggie Lewis-Bird-mchale-Parish still around a young Rick Fox-Big Stojko Vrankovic-Kenny Battle-John Bagley-Joe Kleine lol you get the point..An Reggie was blocking Jordan's shots pretty good at the Time so man oh man never know wat could of Happend Back in those days if he'd of lived..
@bigpapavee4 жыл бұрын
Johnny the what ifs about Hardaway, Hill, and Rose, reminded me similarly to Brandon Roy, then way back to Bernard King. What if Bernard had the benefit of modern arthroscopic knee surgery, let alonewhat if he never gets injured? All these guys were unstoppable prior to their injuries.
@jonnyarnett4 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure. Honestly I could do an entire top 10 what if video based solely on guys who had their careers cut short. TMac, Rose, Hill, Penny, Walton, King, Roy, Oden, Francis, Petrovic, Bias, Sampson, etc. Maybe even a top 15 video? lol
@bigpapavee4 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett i like it, why not!? Projected totals based on trajectories...and such.
@laz0rama4 жыл бұрын
kudos on the bernard reference. if he doesn't go down with the acl, it's him and patrick ewing to build around. not bad at all. bernard already gave zeke and bird a run for their money in the 84 playoffs.
@TUFF-TJ4 жыл бұрын
The most underrated what-if: What if Maurice Stokes didn't suffer the career-ending injury and was able to have a full career?
@Dels_Insignificant_Other3 жыл бұрын
For sure this one! Changes the late fifties, the 60's, and maybe even some of the 70's!
@tj51803 жыл бұрын
Never heard of him ? How good is he
@TUFF-TJ3 жыл бұрын
@@tj5180 He was a walking triple double
@omeribrahim7504 жыл бұрын
i love how he just jumped into the vid
@t-god24394 жыл бұрын
Why does nobody ever say what if Larry bird never got hurt
@TheIcemanthomas4 жыл бұрын
Because that doesn’t change much because they were getting old regardless. Maybe if Len bias and Reggie Lewis didn’t die then it would be a different story.
@ryanhanna44634 жыл бұрын
It 100 percent changes things...bird would have been dominant in his early to mid 30s...prob would need mchale to be healthy as well to win another ring though
@t-god24394 жыл бұрын
CPGoat #3 getting old? Dude was one of the smartest players to ever play and he could shoot probably a top 10 shooter in NBA history I’m tired of hearing about the penny hardaways and t-macs idk if he never got hurt would they have won another chip?
@t-god24394 жыл бұрын
iAmCyber what?????? So what was DR J? He is an amazing althelete no matter what year and bird beat him bro idk if you know how much the bb IQ is
@manaharav4 жыл бұрын
If Len Bias had lived, it would have taken pressure off of Bird and McHale, lengthened the bench for KC Jones and reduced the chances of Bird and McHale getting hurt. I always thought that coach for the Lakers, D'Antoni made a tremendous blunder, and overused Kobe, promoting his Achilles' injury.
@YaboiFitz4 жыл бұрын
Another 1 is if DWade never had the injury issues like d Rose People underrate how injuries affected his career
@DeepDishPizza Жыл бұрын
Rose was so fast and so good. I remember saying back then that no one could sustain that for a long period of time. He knees got to go and they did.
@tygray57644 жыл бұрын
Ya missed one, but you were close. In Hakeem Olajuwon's autobiography, he states that Portland wanted Ralph Sampson and was willing to trade their #2 pick and Clyde Drexler. Houston could've had Hakeem, Clyde, and Jordan!!
@KaxMerg Жыл бұрын
jordan ended up being the third pick though of course
@54raynor Жыл бұрын
@@KaxMerg are you suggesting the Rockets would trade for the 2nd overall pick to select Sam Bowie when they had just drafted Akeem Olajuwon with the 1st pick?
@eliseed8276 Жыл бұрын
WOW. Jordan might have several more rings... yet his individual legacy might not be what it is today. Joining a contender w/ a veteran SG and Hakeem might have meant he never had to be the one-man show he was for so many years in Chicago.
@alienlanes54 жыл бұрын
The Detroit draft pick was so insane. It was not even like a risk/reward scenario. It was blindingly obvious there was no way the reward would have been greater the next few players. That one really upset me for years.
@JStarStar004 жыл бұрын
1. Maurice Stokes (early version of Charles Barkley) I never has his catastrophic brain illness. The Rochester-Cincinnati Royals become a powerhouse in the middle 60s and interrupt the Celtics dynasty. 2. In spring 1979, the Lakers accepted the Pistons offer of the entire team (except for John Long and Terry Tyler), including Bob Lanier, ML Carr, Chris Ford and Kevin Porter, for the draft choice that became Magic Johnson. The Lakers turned down that offer, but it was not a ridiculous offer: Lanier was still averaging 20 ppg, Porter had just led the NBA in assists, and Carr and Ford became solid rotation players for the early seasons of the Bird Celtics. So it's not like the Pistons were offering a pile of trash for Magic Johnson.
@CLewey444 жыл бұрын
The way Tracy Mcgrady played during that 2 or 3 year stretch with Orlando, I thought he was going to come out the best SG of his generation. So big and strong with an unstoppable scoring set.
@hamburgauthenticsounds72684 жыл бұрын
what if len bias was signed by nike and making the "Air" Bias brand.....and Jordan went to adidas?
@hoodiereborn3164 жыл бұрын
think about what if never died first
@reginaldlott2364 жыл бұрын
Then everybody would be wearing Adidas instead of Nike. Lol
@Djego20014 жыл бұрын
Piston's defense + Carmelo's Dominance on offence would be really interesting
@petermoss208 Жыл бұрын
I would still much rather have Sheed. Sheed will go down as one of the most under rated players of all time. He was the greatest scoring power forward of all time after Charles Barkley and Kevin McHale before he was traded to Detroit, where he changed his offensive output to help that team play championship ball. With only one ring people say Carmelo would have helped them get another. But they got to another finals and a bunch of ECF. In my opinion Carmelo did nothing in Denver until CHAUNCEY showed up and he couldn’t lead the knicks. So why would a Piston fan want that? Greed usually leads to missteps. I think Sheed and Tayshaun were perfect and I doubt Larry Brown would have wanted to deal with another volume shooter that late in his career. Greatest dynasty to only win 1 ring.
@period87054 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Kobe Bryant. Mamba out 😪
@kaqueburlington42784 жыл бұрын
Just started watching your channel. Great content! Awesome stuff! It’s tough to put a bigger what than Len Bias. If would’ve filled in a big spot in NBA history: Wilt vs Russel Magic vs Bird MJ vs ____ LeBron vs Kobe
@TataShvaler4 жыл бұрын
Mikan vs Kurland and especially Alcindor vs Walton could have been great rivalries as well. Too bad they didn't happen. But I don't consider LeBron vs Kobe a rivalry at all. They never met in the playoffs, their primes didn't collide and the gap between the two players was just too big.
@billybaugus1249 Жыл бұрын
And i agree Len Bias living would have changed everything. Him and Reggie Lewis is the 90s would have made a tough match for Mike and Scottie in the 90s
@Phil-s7w Жыл бұрын
Derrick Rose's injuries also hurt Jokham Noah's career, he was a really good NBA center but after Derrick and the bulls ended, everyone forgot about him, he too was a perennial all-star.
@jaxjax49 Жыл бұрын
Blazers could have their own whole list. - MJ -Healthy Walton -Healthy Roy -Healthy Oden/Drafted KD that year -Sabonis being able to join the NBA sooner We must have worked some serious blood magic that Championship run because we have certainly seen some cursed history since then.
@eyedrcarlson5 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Another what if could be, what if Magic didn't contract the HIV (virus) and retire early?
@big8dog8874 жыл бұрын
For one thing, the "Dream Team" would've been a lot different. This hardly gets talked about anymore, but a big reason they were able to get everybody they wanted was because the stars all thought they were giving a dying man his last wish. Fortunately, that turned out not to be the case, but if Magic isn't "on his death bed", Jordan and Bird probably aren't on board, so the team probably still has All-Star caliber players (Magic, Barkley, Robinson, maybe they take Isiah), and probably still easily wins the gold medal, but it doesn't have the rock star image that the rest of the world idolizes and tries to emulate.
@leemcb72974 жыл бұрын
He was considered past his peak after 30, he gained size but was a step slower. He should've been reserve to Isiah Thomas honestly...but MJ couldn't let it be
@Kiki-lc3ng4 жыл бұрын
What if: the 3 point line was a semicircle with no corner 3? What if: the 3 point shot had existed since the 60s? What if: the ABA & NBA merged in 1967 instead of 1976?
@israelmoreno36204 жыл бұрын
Kiki White 💥 Power ✊🏿✊🏿
@734ethan4 жыл бұрын
@@israelmoreno3620 wtf??
@israelmoreno36204 жыл бұрын
734ethan hell ya !
@sportstalkwithzo37074 жыл бұрын
Pistol pete would've been the top scorer when he retired if it was a 3pt shot
@christopherray63704 жыл бұрын
Well as a Spurs fan Lebron didn't win that second title for 1 thank to Ray Allen, But what do I know.
@TheRealReVeLaTioN4 жыл бұрын
You should've added (on #6)... Imagine seeing Carmelo Anthony win a college national championship then see him win an NBA championship the very next year! That would've completely changed how we view C. Anthony!!
@natehoover52662 жыл бұрын
Penny and Grant were both up and coming when I was a kid and really into NBA basketball. It bummed me out that they had injuries.
@bealgates85944 жыл бұрын
The CP3 deal still upsets me
@HighTimeQ4 жыл бұрын
Damn. That number 1 blew my mind
@rickykeefer70814 жыл бұрын
That thunder team could have took over the 2010’s through 2020’s I honestly feel like they could have won like 5,6,7 or more in a row with that team, who knows. Not to mention they also had one of the best rim protectors in the league at the time in serge ibaka and had Reggie Jackson who was a star player for the pistons, he could have played 6th man and made okc even more dangerous
@danielcampbell56034 жыл бұрын
People forget about Ibaka when talking about OKC. You have 3 future MVP's, and a defense first big man. You could have filled that roster out with dude's from the Y and they would still be killers. How do you sleep at night blowing that team up, all over 5 million bucks.
@kouavue52594 жыл бұрын
Those 3 wont win shit. They are not winner. They cant carry a team that far.
@danielcampbell56034 жыл бұрын
@@kouavue5259 Ibaka and Durant both have rings. Russ and Harden are MVP's. What are you even talking about?
@kouavue52594 жыл бұрын
@@danielcampbell5603 do you even watch basketball? They are amazing player but they dont have a winner mentality. Like kobe for example he ways find a way to win even with bum. These 3 need a leader for them to win. KD need stephen to win ring but Stephen dont need him because he was already a winner. Russ and harden will never win a ring unless they go chase after a superstar with leadership like lebron currently.
@CiabanItReal4 жыл бұрын
#5 It's not just that they passed on Jordan for Bowie, it's the other guys they passed on too. They could have defended not taking a rookie Mike since they had current star and future HoF Clyde Drexler if they had drafted a different big man in Charles Barkley. Hell, if they had taken Jordan UNC teammate and borderline HOF Sam Perkins it wouldn't be so bad.
@jebvoorhees1254 жыл бұрын
Grant Hill was always my favorite. Especially after he battled back from all those injuries. Most players couldn't deal with all of the ramifications of being tagged as injury prone, especially franchise players. A lot of people look at Derek Rose in the same light, but Derek didn't possess Grant's work ethic after leaving the Bulls.
@reginaldlott2364 жыл бұрын
I think the OKC trade of Harden is the biggest and most impact full "What If," in this series. The Bias what if has a lot of working parts such as what if he was a bust or was injury pron, or what if his addiction hindered his career and marketability. The Carter/McGrady "What if," though they were very successful independently, only cover two people. The fact that you had this dynamic trio which could have lead to a major dynasty that rivaled GS and slowed down LaBron as he has made it to, or won in the playoffs a significant amount of consecutive years is more interesting to me. Overall what is more tantalizing is to think, "What if Shaq was on the Bulls with Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippin and Dennis Rodman?
@Galvaxatron4 жыл бұрын
Should have mentioned Drazen Petrovic. That said, solid video.
@PoliticusRex6324 жыл бұрын
The greatest what if in NBA history is what if Red Auerbach had stayed working in his parents' deli!
@elmascavidal17974 жыл бұрын
What if the 1988’ Pistons never got hosed in the finals against the lakers... 3 peat 🤔💭💭
@realmusicentertainmentcompany4 жыл бұрын
They we're definitely suppose to win 3 straight if Stern wasn't fixing games for Bird & Magic and later on Jordan after the NBA on NBC Tv deal
@elmascavidal17974 жыл бұрын
Real Music Entertainment Company for real they didn’t want the bad boys winning chips
@realmusicentertainmentcompany4 жыл бұрын
@@elmascavidal1797 EXACTLY💯✔ #TrueStory
@elmascavidal17974 жыл бұрын
Hugh pistons win in 6 games... Those bad boys teams were no joke ... they ended the lakers and Celtics run in the 80’s
@videoorgy4 жыл бұрын
I love the Pistons but that was nothing more than a bad call. They happen all the time. Definitely sucks though.
@mrt95394 жыл бұрын
Great video. Straigten out the mj poster lol. Great list. I never got past Len Bias. I hope the celtics took care of his family
@larrycunningham9171 Жыл бұрын
As a bulls fan since the late 80s...#3 hits me a little different. That team at the time could've done great things
@Cqogpc4 жыл бұрын
CP3 and Kobe would of had a chip easy. Stern screwed CP3
@dontrellmayfieldjr28684 жыл бұрын
Kobe would've had his 6th ring.. that's a travesty. Rest in peace to Kobe and David Stern but some reason I still can't get over about David Stern decision to screw CP3.
@Cqogpc4 жыл бұрын
Dontrell Mayfield Jr yea RIP to both it was probably something that interfered in the policies
@dontrellmayfieldjr28684 жыл бұрын
@@Cqogpc politics is a waste of time. Politics sucks ass
@henry74863 жыл бұрын
@@dontrellmayfieldjr2868 the dude commented policies not politics
@henry74863 жыл бұрын
@@Cqogpc pretty sure it’s just cos other owners were whining
@aclements28124 жыл бұрын
What about if Magic stayed healthy?
@rayray54724 жыл бұрын
Kinda of what he never tested positive for HIV... Because that I know of he didn't have injury problems...
@donmegadonmega35334 жыл бұрын
M M -probably couldve won the championship when jordan left for baseball, but who know had magic never been forced to retire it wouldve given more competition to rethink early retirement
@geezusgeezus44134 жыл бұрын
What if Sampson stayed healthy?
@RaiderGannon124 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can see the Lakers winning the Championship in 93, even without Magic Johnson in the 91-92 and 92-93 nba season the Lakers beat the Bulls 3 out of 4 games in the regular season.
@agyemanburns60354 жыл бұрын
What if Reggie Lewis didn't die and what if penny hardaway didn't suffer nagging injuies
@teelyttle248011 ай бұрын
This video just popped up after all these years… great video, even way back then.
@henrycooper71364 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Very informative!
@nelsonsulayao72714 жыл бұрын
1.What if the bulls 1998 remain intact for the following year. 2.what if kobe didn't trade by the hornets in 1997 draft.
@petsvideo31324 жыл бұрын
1996 nba draft
@nelsonsulayao72714 жыл бұрын
@@petsvideo3132 96-97
@FuShengAlex4 жыл бұрын
Kobe Bryant was fixated on LA. He'd have caused issues elsewhere
@kingdinodragonite34703 жыл бұрын
What if the 76ers drafted KG in 1995? They wouldnt probably get AI the next year but they have a shot of drafting Kobe and they probably would because the 76ers were second guessing whether would they pick kobe or ai in the first place.
@TheZayzkidd34 жыл бұрын
The league owned the Pelicans at THAT time but now a SINGLE INDIVIDUAL does own the Pelicans.
@jparsons31634 жыл бұрын
Game 6 2010 finals What if. Kendrick Perkins doesn't get injured an the Celtics don't lose that game. due to lack of a big man to replace him .
@JohnJohn-dx7ue4 жыл бұрын
As far as the number 3 choice with Derrick Rose, we should mention not just that he was the youngest MVP but also who he beat that year. LeBron, Wade, Bryant, Howard, and Durant all had monster seasons that year too and he won it as a 22 year old with one year nba experience.
@ericdickerson3273 Жыл бұрын
Well Lebron put up 26.7/7.5/7 that year and rose put up 25/4/7.7, so Rose only won it because people were mad at lebron for going to Miami. But I get what you’re saying. As a bulls fan, I wish LBJ had just gone to the Bulls and more than likely Rose doesn’t get hurt in garbage time the following year and we got a second bulls dynasty
@JohnJohn-dx7ue Жыл бұрын
@@ericdickerson3273 Im not disagreeing. But Rose wasn’t not deserving.
@greaterrome4 жыл бұрын
profound thoughts are in my head now
@CLewey444 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Daugherty would have been a better fit in Boston and why Cleveland passed on Bias is beyond me. Who knows, maybe he wouldn't have OD'd had a different circumstance occurred and Cleveland would have been the team of the future. It would have made more sense for a superstar to start out on a young and up coming team like that and build around him. I'm sure Bias would have played a couple of seasons in Boston and then traded somewhere else when he realized he wasn't getting the minutes or touches he wanted on a stacked Boston team.
@KermRiv4 жыл бұрын
I never knew about len bias before this, it's absolutely heartbreaking. Holy shit
@yourdaddy60303 жыл бұрын
From an all-time high getting drafted by his favorite team to dying on the floor of his dorm room. Fucking bullshit. Rumor has it that was the first time he ever did cocaine too. His friends wanted him to celebrate being drafted by the Celtics.
@alaskaguyd9633 жыл бұрын
@@yourdaddy6030 Celtics were snakebit. Reggie Lewis could have been on this list too.
@kylepatillo50714 жыл бұрын
i just wanna say drose high school class of 007 was my senior in highschool i still get chills when i see that game against philly sometimes your hero's fall
@NationJJ4 жыл бұрын
I get the idea of "what if" but there's levels to "if." What if all of these ballers never made it to the NBA. DRose, thank you brother. You made Chicago basketball lit again.
@kingdeedee4 жыл бұрын
What is Portland drafted KD? I think that's one of the most underrated what-ifs in NBA history
@petercook93484 жыл бұрын
Great video, but you missed the boggest one. What if, the Rockets traded Sampson for the second pick and Drexler and you end up with Olajuwon Drexler and Jordan on the same team from 1984 onwards????
@shanesawyer51034 жыл бұрын
Looking back, Portland could’ve had Jordan/Drexler & Houston could’ve probably had Jordan/Olajuwon. Unless the GM was incompetent, building around either duo would’ve meant dominating the league for at least ten years.
@ice_man814 жыл бұрын
The one nobody talks about is Seattle trading Scottie for Olden in 87 draft. Scottie could of been a Sonic and played with Kemp and Payton. Jordan might not have won anything.
@asapoluu98854 жыл бұрын
Cmon Jordan ? Nah he doesn’t lose
@hoodiereborn3164 жыл бұрын
@@asapoluu9885 bro 1-9 without Scottie in the firs round Jordan has 0 rings without Scottie argue with me and bj Armstrong leaves and Horis grant maybe he has 1 but that's all
@markythelarky69484 жыл бұрын
@@asapoluu9885 Thinking like yours is the reason I sometimes get annoyed by the Jordan hype of the 90s which created a narrative about Jordan as this lone player that carried his team to victory. For those of us that are older, we remember the days when Jordan, try as he may, simply could not beat Magic's Lakers, Bird 's Celtics, and Isiah Thomas' Pistons. He was at his peak and could not win a title. Commentators in general would openly scoff at his game play because his method (a team centered around a high scoring shooting guard) was not conducive to success. Jordan needed to learn an important lesson which Magic, Bird, and Thomas knew too well, that it's a team game. It's not about you, you don't play for yourself, you play for the team. You don't play for the stats, you play for the W. It wasn't until he got Pippen that he had the help he needed to win and realized he needed to trust his team. I won't go as far as to say that without Pippen he would have 0 rings, but I doubt he would have 6. Also, remember this, who did he defeat in the finals? Compare his finals opponents to the ones Magic Bird and Thomas had in the 80s. No comparison.
@ivblizzard36164 жыл бұрын
finally someone can actuallly see the truth
@paulthomas79674 жыл бұрын
Jordan made that team and made those guys great . Once pip left MJ he was trash . Jordan won with all role players that played great because of him. There would have been another Scottie and MJ would still be the GOAT because he was so overwhelmingly dominant like no one before or since
@jab1289 Жыл бұрын
Here's a good one: On September 10th 1971, the NBA had a special supplemental draft (kind of like the NFL's supplemental draft) of hardship early entrants. During that draft, Atlanta selected Tom Payne, and they forfeited their 1972 pick. Fast forward one year: Dr. J signs with Atlanta and plays some pre-season games with them, but the court eventually rules that he has to go back to the ABA Squires. However, what if the Hawks didn't draft Tom Payne in 71, and took Dr. J with the seventh pick in the 72 NBA Draft (they were picking before the Bucks)? Maybe Julius is allowed to stay with the Hawks, putting him on a team that would win 46 games in 72-73 (they had six guys who scored in double figures and two 20+ point scorers in Pistol Pete and Lou Hudson), and lost to the Celtics in six games without him.
@lassanadrammeh62094 жыл бұрын
The video we never knew we needed.
@timsnell93264 жыл бұрын
Penny Hardaway such a underrated passer second to no one if u watch not just his highlights but his games
@rayray54724 жыл бұрын
Magic, Stockton,Kidd, Nash and Big O comes to mind right off the bat... wait how heck can forget Pistol Pete...
@themeparkjunkies84714 жыл бұрын
And my #1 what if.... What if MJ never injured his knee in the 2002 season, when he was averaging 25-6-5 and the wizards were #2 in the East behind the Nets???? And Richard Hamilton even missed 19 games. Could have been a Kobe vs Mj final
@SW1TCHBLXDE4 жыл бұрын
Woooow
@chrisstrong75844 жыл бұрын
Another beautiful what if
@romankozelov50784 жыл бұрын
Great point
@waliahmad30304 жыл бұрын
What if Maulbury and KG stayed together
@joebowen85994 жыл бұрын
Nothing lol
@waliahmad30304 жыл бұрын
@@joebowen8599 u r right as far as chips are concerned, maybe a couple of deep playoff runs tho
@Quintinnn4 жыл бұрын
So we not gonna talk about the ball flying towards our faces 😂😂 3:50
@king_supreme11024 жыл бұрын
Glad you started this channel
@youtuber33284 жыл бұрын
what if the rockets never traded a legend i love being hakeem olajuwon
@victor112184 жыл бұрын
Len bias deserves that number one spot. Well done
@ComaAlpha Жыл бұрын
Benji Wilson deserves it more so than Len.
@Humbler324 жыл бұрын
The obvious what if that you forgot, what if Drazen Petrovic never died.
@kingunda5013 Жыл бұрын
By 2003-04, Shaq had already deferred to Kobe as the team's #1 guy. He said this several times in interviews. Shaq just wanted to get paid by at least $20M. But Dr. Buss called Shaq's bluff that he'd leave if they wont pay up. The Lakers wanted to make sure they have the money to keep Kobe.
@lukascubes91323 жыл бұрын
Johnny's Intro: Number 10
@mrblue38794 жыл бұрын
Out of Jordan LeBron and Kobe. Kobe was the one who had the biggest chance to win more rings
@harveydodd88034 жыл бұрын
Can’t see Len Bias being as good as Jordan. Jordan had a focus to win unlike any player at that time. He certainly wouldn’t be snorting lethal doses of cocaine days after being drafted.
@TheAcer19814 жыл бұрын
What if the 2002 WCF weren't fixed by the NBA?
@shanesawyer51034 жыл бұрын
TRUTH
@hoodiereborn3164 жыл бұрын
kings easily take down Kobe and Shaq
@klamathmountainultralight4 жыл бұрын
As a life-long Lakers, fan I'm sad to say you're right.
@LessGo79214 жыл бұрын
@@klamathmountainultralight True. Kings would have demolished the Nets.
@melvynsngltn273 жыл бұрын
Yeah game 5 was BS refs cheated LA in that game
@kepsivar64344 жыл бұрын
Im so happy to see d rose performing again
@Minkah604 жыл бұрын
This Segment has Completely Amazing !!!
@kaqueburlington42784 жыл бұрын
What if the Malace at the Palace didn’t happen? Maybe Pacers over Lakers ‘04 championship
@TataShvaler4 жыл бұрын
The malace at the palace was a couple of months after the 04 finals. But maybe the spurs would have played against the Pacers in 2005
@Ebk.xo934 жыл бұрын
What if the nba 2020 season was never cancelled?
@ljbara67954 жыл бұрын
Poopoo Cock underrated comment
@jonathanvelazquezph.d.27194 жыл бұрын
For the moment being, it's been suspended. There's a difference. We'll see if it is cancelled, in the near future.
@BigCheddarr4 жыл бұрын
Edit: what if Rudy Gobert wasn’t such a dumbass
@Leonard_Wilson4 жыл бұрын
The Lakers would be champions. And this is coming from a guy who hates LeBron.
@jerrylanary48894 жыл бұрын
@Poopoo Cock all nba players, staff, owners and fans on live games will all have COVID19 and many of them will DIE
@rayray54724 жыл бұрын
You say Hill and Penny are what if's because injuries But Sam was a bust because of injuries...
@centocerez3 жыл бұрын
Hill and Penny were already all-stars and future probable MVPs before injuries. Bowie never did anything to assume he could be even good.
@alanela67613 жыл бұрын
Excellent job. I was ready to type in "number 1 Len Bias lives", and then you had it as number one on your video. My number two is what if Larry Bird had hired someone to dig and pave his mom's driveway in 1985. He might have played his last seven seasons much more healthy, and there might have been more than seven seasons left because of it... he and bias could have won alot!
@surfing6364 жыл бұрын
The biggest what if: Arvydas Sabonis being a last round draft pick by Portland. The Trailblazers surgically repaired his feet. Then the Soviets wouldn’t let him play in the NBA. The Soviets (USSR) with Sabonis helped create the need for a Dream Team, while Portland went on to 2 NBA Finals without Sabonis. He would’ve been a seasoned player in his prime for those NBA Finals.