The Top 10 RUINED Potentials of All Time

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Jonny Arnett

Jonny Arnett

Күн бұрын

A breakdown of the top 10 most ruined potentials in NBA History... according to me, of course.
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@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett Жыл бұрын
Who takes the top spot on your list?
@rylen_moore18
@rylen_moore18 Жыл бұрын
I think Reggie Lewis could’ve really been great and might’ve even helped push the 80-90s Celtics to another ring or two
@vicepresidentmikepence889
@vicepresidentmikepence889 Жыл бұрын
Unlike football, which has a pro and college hall of fame, basketball combines college and pro. If you just go by his nba numbers, NO WAY IS BILL WALTON A HALL OF FAMER. Bill Walton was a two time all star
@colewrld901
@colewrld901 Жыл бұрын
Broy and Oden, if healthy could've been a dynasty 😬 but len bias death potentially changed nba history
@JoshWebster327
@JoshWebster327 Жыл бұрын
I think Len Bias deserves a spot on the list but not number one because we didn’t even get to see one game of his in the NBA. He could’ve been great, but unfortunately there was also a chance he would’ve been Kwame Brown. If I made the list I’d probably give him an honorable mention
@Intr0vertical
@Intr0vertical Жыл бұрын
Len and Reggie Lewis. Man we could've had our Tatum/Brown duo in the 90s. ( maybe better 👀)
@GiveMeYourFACE9089
@GiveMeYourFACE9089 Жыл бұрын
I think you should've included Ralph Sampson. Dude was 7'4" with insane mobility and athleticism. Another case of a talented big man losing his career due to excessive injuries
@FuShengAlex
@FuShengAlex Жыл бұрын
Should've been #1
@kimtaka7
@kimtaka7 Жыл бұрын
Wembanyama could cpmplete sampson's dream, if not injured though.
@timmyg831
@timmyg831 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with including Ralph Sampson. He and Olajuwon beat Magic, Kareem and Worthy 4-1 in the 1986 playoffs. If Sampson didn’t get injured in the following years, Lakers wouldn’t have won ‘87 and ‘88 finals.
@adrianp.1195
@adrianp.1195 Жыл бұрын
Just like Len Bias’s death, Ralph Sampson’s ailing knees change Basketball and NBA History.
@swaymcthunder1219
@swaymcthunder1219 11 ай бұрын
Crazy thing about sampson when he was playing with a young hakeem, sampson was the one playing PF while hakeem played C. We all know how hakeem's career panned out, but at the time ralph was considered the more athletic/ versatile one of the 2
@trin3o
@trin3o Жыл бұрын
Arvydas Sabonis. Best player ever outside NBA. Arrived to Portland at 32 and no knees, when the doctor saw him said, "He could qualify for a handicapped parking spot, based on the X-ray alone." Nevertheless, give us 16, 10, 3. Dude was a beast
@klauswagner1607
@klauswagner1607 Жыл бұрын
Nikos Galis played at the same time and was the better player in Europe.
@charlieprince8671
@charlieprince8671 Жыл бұрын
We're seeing him reborn in Jokic.
@idipped2521
@idipped2521 Жыл бұрын
He would have averaged 30 and 10 in his prime in the nba
@klauswagner1607
@klauswagner1607 Жыл бұрын
​@@charlieprince8671 The most assist per game of Sabonis in Europe was 2.9 and 3.0 in the NBA. Marc Gasol had a better career average than that.
@YodaWannabEE
@YodaWannabEE Жыл бұрын
@@klauswagner1607 So did Joakim Noah
@joelco92
@joelco92 Жыл бұрын
Maurice Stokes had a hell of a friend in his teammate Jack Twyman. He not only started a foundation to raise money for all his medical expenses, but eventually became his legal guardian. Wow.
@uberneanderthal
@uberneanderthal Жыл бұрын
both underrated and underappreciated all-time greats. Twyman would've led the league in scoring except for a man named Wilt.
@sirochsittisombut1063
@sirochsittisombut1063 Жыл бұрын
Right, Can't ask for a better or true friend than this.
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
Why is that story not a movie??
@talkingmoney4499
@talkingmoney4499 10 ай бұрын
@@mongoslade277 seriously ….
@trin3o
@trin3o Жыл бұрын
Dražen Petrović, best all around shooter I've ever seen in a jordan's brutal mentality. imagine this dude torching todays NBA. He left us too soon.
@Chops_4114
@Chops_4114 11 ай бұрын
the 30 for 30 once brothers was my first time watching him. i wish i could of seen more from him. such a shame
@nelnel2183
@nelnel2183 10 ай бұрын
Petrovic also played amazing defense. Seen highlights of him being a pest to Jordan and Pippen.
@rucianapollard4057
@rucianapollard4057 10 ай бұрын
Reggie Miller said this guy was the best he played against
@rucianapollard4057
@rucianapollard4057 10 ай бұрын
​@@Chops_4114I saw that documentary and I wish I could have seen him play in his prime
@nelnel2183
@nelnel2183 10 ай бұрын
@@rucianapollard4057 then Steve Kerr said i think, that it wasn't fun guarding Petrovic lol
@bolt7047
@bolt7047 Жыл бұрын
Grant was such an amazing player. It's a shame injuries destroyed him.
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 Жыл бұрын
Crazy for someone to be destroyed and still have that career.
@uberneanderthal
@uberneanderthal Жыл бұрын
he played 'the right way', too. tough on defense, unselfish on offense and a great spokesman off the court. he would've been an all-time great, for sure.
@ImAlxxy
@ImAlxxy Жыл бұрын
He was cursed leaving the pistons
@bolt7047
@bolt7047 Жыл бұрын
@@keithjoseph128 yep even after injuries he was a solid roleplayer.
@bolt7047
@bolt7047 Жыл бұрын
@@uberneanderthal yep. He very easily could have been an MVP.
@rig-zag
@rig-zag Жыл бұрын
Don't forget, alongside Len bias, Boston's Reggie Lewis also had huge potential cut short by an untimely death.
@kevinhouse4376
@kevinhouse4376 10 ай бұрын
As a Celtics fan, I couldn't even watch the video when he started talking abut Len Bias. I remember how devastated I was when I first heard the news, and it is one of the greatest 'what ifs' in sports history.
@Schlipsmut
@Schlipsmut Жыл бұрын
Ralph Sampson, Yao Ming, Bill Walton - sad stories but in some way maybe over time unavoidable issues of really big and heavy men. I think much more annoying are the many careers of the 70s and 80s that ended cause of drug abuse. Btw, Penny is my number 1, he was like a Mix of MJ and Magic when he came to the league.
@tj5180
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
Maurice stokes and Connie Hawkins
@MarkLaw13
@MarkLaw13 Жыл бұрын
Why is kawhi not on these lists
@diogoo_2977
@diogoo_2977 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkLaw13 and AD
@MarkLaw13
@MarkLaw13 Жыл бұрын
@@diogoo_2977 Yes but he hasn't got that dawg in him. He wasn't injured in the denver series he just didn't fight. He is always up and down. Kawhi is a constant on the floor. He almost never has a bad game.
@JustTryingToYoutube
@JustTryingToYoutube Жыл бұрын
@@MarkLaw13 non current players are more fitting
@dennisc2154
@dennisc2154 11 ай бұрын
Larry Johnson is honorable mention... before 1994... He is also face of the nba... but back injury change all of that... his explosiveness suddenly missed after he injured his back and he rely more on outside shooting ....
@Smoothyoki
@Smoothyoki 9 ай бұрын
Larry Johnson was never the face of the league 😹
@danielkopolovic7218
@danielkopolovic7218 Жыл бұрын
Pete Maravich, reading in his autobiography about how messed up his knees were, it's a wonder he played as long as he did. But the fact that he left the Celtics the year Bird arrived leaves one of the most interesting "what ifs". Imagine Johnson, Maravich, Bird, McHale and Parish - full HOF starting five. Plus him and Bird, two of the best passers and shooters of all time would have been crazy along with Parish and McHale in the paint. *edit* as an afterthought, Pete also retired the first year the 3-point line was introduced. A healthy veteran maravich with that celtics team and a three point line, that's gotta be one of the greatest what-ifs in basketball history. Andrew Toney and Bernard King are two we never got to see the full potential of. *edit* (Adding Andrew Bynum, Arvydas Sabonis, and Andrew Bogut as well) And, in addition to Len Bias, the Celtics lost Reggie Lewis too when he was breaking out as a future star. So many questions about what the east would have looked like if both of those guys were able to play alongside twilight Bird and McHale. Even Bird is worthy of the list. His healthy years already put him in the GOAT conversation. What could he have done if his back wasn't completely wrecked for the latter half of his career. Just hire somebody to shovel mom's driveway. . . RIP to Drazen Petrovic as well.
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
Maravich at the place of Harden, Cp3 and Westbrook would have got 3 chips. He influented Isiah, White Chocolate, Magic, Curry, Iverson, Kyrie and Bird
@tridra5714
@tridra5714 Жыл бұрын
@@franagustin3094 no pistol was never as good as any of them
@franagustin3094
@franagustin3094 Жыл бұрын
@@tridra5714 Yeah he was, he never carry or travel like those guys. He never choked with 2 Hof and with superteams like Cp3, Westbrook and Harden. Pistol nowadays would have been a tall curry, unstoppable
@tj5180
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
@@tridra5714 the fact you believe that statement is insane
@JamesWoodring-mu2iz
@JamesWoodring-mu2iz Жыл бұрын
@@tridra5714 you do realize pistol still has the ncaa all time scoring avg. at lsu he averaged 44 points a game, and was a great scorer in the nba as well please dont comment on players you know nothing about
@ltrigga219
@ltrigga219 Жыл бұрын
B Roy is still heart-breaking. Ron Artest called him the hardest assignment he ever had, too. That comeback game against the Mavs in the playoffs was one of the greatest quarters I ever remember sitting through. Penny briefly tied MJ as my favorite player in the mid 90s. I’m sure there were dozens of honorable mentions. Great list, thanks for calling some of these names to the attention of some of the younger crowd.
@enriquerangelarguelles8564
@enriquerangelarguelles8564 Жыл бұрын
It was not Kobe who said that statement about defending Brandon Roy, it was Ron Artest, when he was playing with the Rockets and they faced the Blazers in the 2009 playoffs.
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 Жыл бұрын
Adding to the Kobe myths.
@tj5180
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
Kobe also said in 2010 that he was the most difficult player to guard
@Bzzz-pm4pk
@Bzzz-pm4pk Жыл бұрын
Didnt kobe said that about Tmac
@jeremydeluca9789
@jeremydeluca9789 Жыл бұрын
@@Bzzz-pm4pk Yes, Kobe said that he always had the hardest time with McGrady
@shay_z6059
@shay_z6059 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremydeluca9789 he also said later on that he could never figure out how to guard kd
@tynanbarnes6506
@tynanbarnes6506 Жыл бұрын
Greg Oden should absolutely be on this list. Him, LA, and Brandon Roy would have been and insane trio
@Yabas00
@Yabas00 11 ай бұрын
Blazers have such a tragic history outside of their 1 championship year
@leonknight558
@leonknight558 11 ай бұрын
The blazers will forever be cursed for passing up Jordan and Durant.
@theonlygoodonehere2259
@theonlygoodonehere2259 10 ай бұрын
@@leonknight558 who knows if they win with those guys, jordan is a question mark, but they don't win with durant
@vernonleewarren280
@vernonleewarren280 Жыл бұрын
What about Reggie Lewis that played for the Celtics. I believe he would have been a great player as well. No one ever mentions this guy at all. He died tragically young from a heart problem
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 Жыл бұрын
Good point on Reggie Lewis. I heard that he was supposed to be the next great Celtic. What a shame.
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud Жыл бұрын
💯
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud Жыл бұрын
Only Celtic I liked at the time...
@vernonleewarren280
@vernonleewarren280 Жыл бұрын
He was truly just starting to emerge as a star when he suddenly passed away
@MegaMjjordan
@MegaMjjordan Жыл бұрын
⁠@@ktapreswreckd921v9He was, and businesses/ basketball wise he was gonna be their new Len Bias except learning from an old Larry but sadly he passed too. Some seen him as the KD before KD apparently
@osmelnoguerafigueroa8031
@osmelnoguerafigueroa8031 Жыл бұрын
I can’t get over D Rose 🥀
@joejesus9902
@joejesus9902 Жыл бұрын
Ralph Sampson was the most gifted player to have his career derailed by injuries. He was truly a freak of nature and it’s tragic we never got to see his prime materialize
@DeCurtaRican
@DeCurtaRican 11 ай бұрын
Uh, Bernard King, Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Sam Bowie, Roy Tarpley, Greg Oden, Danny Manning, Marques Johnson, and Michael Ray Richardson would like a word with you. Yes, Sampson was so fr3akishly gifted that he could have been the in the GOAT convo, but so were every one of the players I mentioned. ALSO, DID EVERYONE FORGET THAT DOMINIQUE WILKINS’S CAREER WAS ALSO DERAILED BY A GRUESOME (HAMSTRING) INJURY?
@joejesus9902
@joejesus9902 11 ай бұрын
@@DeCurtaRican that’s a solid list you got there, I can’t argue with that. Grant hill and penny were absolutely filthy (in a good way) before their injuries
@Smoothyoki
@Smoothyoki 9 ай бұрын
@@DeCurtaRicanRalph had more potential than all of them
@LocalManMakesMusic
@LocalManMakesMusic Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy to think how the legends of the game were so blessed that not only were they born with incredible gifts but they also managed to build long careers without succumbing to something as simple as a sprained ankle that wouldn’t heal right. The goats of the game are truly one in a billion.
@ryanlee122787
@ryanlee122787 Жыл бұрын
This one hurt. Grant Hill was my favorite player as a kid and Tmac was my favorite as a teen.
@wiiiz3
@wiiiz3 Жыл бұрын
i heard D-Rose was your favorite player in your 20s
@lamarlatimore7802
@lamarlatimore7802 Жыл бұрын
Drose working Lebron and Wade will forever be stuck in my mind as one of my all time favorite games
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 Жыл бұрын
Working? His shot selection and defense lost them the series. Even his game winner was horrible basketball.
@FrokuBabayy
@FrokuBabayy Жыл бұрын
@@keithjoseph128 Remind me again of who the youngest MVP is in NBA History who also carried the Bulls to a 60-win season?
@Mazzawak
@Mazzawak Жыл бұрын
​@@keithjoseph128 Boozer was the main reason they lost that series. Rose was definitely working both Wade and Bron. He wasn't dominating them but they went toe to toe. Dude was so phenomenal and still improving, he developed his 3pt game and his decision making considerably. I swear people just wanna hate for no reason.
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 Жыл бұрын
@@Mazzawak neither were guarding him. Miami did the same thing to Rose as Dallas did to Lebron. They just sagged off and he was lost. Kinda like you.
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
​@@keithjoseph128Are you sure LeBron didn't get the primary assignment on D Rose after he torched Wade in the Bulls game 1 win??
@1976rmartin
@1976rmartin Жыл бұрын
Penny Hardaway and Grant Hill are my, "What could have been..." players.
@jrompolo5264
@jrompolo5264 Жыл бұрын
Penny is my favorite player back in the 90s. would've love to see him reach his full potential, but the injuries prevented this.
@chiefs816kc
@chiefs816kc Жыл бұрын
This is what separates Jonny's channel other KZbinrs, First Take, Undisputed, etc. Jonny thinks of unique undiscussed topics.
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Most channels only discuss what’s trending, and they don’t give audiences a read to watch them specifically over other channels who discuss the same topics.
@richborn6700
@richborn6700 11 ай бұрын
To be fair First Things First is the best of those three. Easily the best chemistry on sports television
@FlymoufDiction
@FlymoufDiction Жыл бұрын
Awesome list. Len Bias at #1 is correct....
@mrbean3470
@mrbean3470 Жыл бұрын
I remember T-Mac being just unstoppable. People give him crap for all the first round losses, but the fact that he took the Pistons to 7 games was a Herculean effort in 2003.
@richardw3347
@richardw3347 10 ай бұрын
u could say he was the best on this list overall as a player. at least he got to play up to his potential for a few years. Grant Hill and Rose are my big what ifs. Roy was good too.
@cafelatte1124
@cafelatte1124 10 ай бұрын
He was good but he choked in the playoffs even when he was healthy.
@richardw3347
@richardw3347 10 ай бұрын
@@cafelatte1124 I saw him play live. he either went inside for a dunk or shot long J`s . that is not sustainable in tight playoff games you need a strong mid range game too, etc. He had the ability to that but wasn't`t consistent.
@Smoothyoki
@Smoothyoki 9 ай бұрын
@@richardw3347this is just a lie, we’ve seen this is not true because of Steph curry, Jamal Murray, etc
@richardw3347
@richardw3347 9 ай бұрын
@@Smoothyoki its good to have a well rounded game whoever you are. Steph can hit all shots: mid, close, etc. McGrady can too but sometimes he took too many long ones. Kobe, Kawhi, Jordan all had great mid range games. Just like great 3 point shooting teams in March madness. you go cold one game and you can get bounced.
@marejov83
@marejov83 Жыл бұрын
I feel you've missed Arvydas Sabonis. In context of the NBA, his potential to play in NBA was ruined by the times and politics. But I feel we were all robbed not seeing Arvydas in his prime in the NBA.. And to add one more.. My idol when I was a kid in Yugoslavia. Great late Drazen. I know I might be missing the point of the video.. But death for sure is ruining someone's potential more than an injury.
@mikek7050
@mikek7050 11 ай бұрын
Bill Walton is one of the most forgotten players in NBA history. I feel like the 70s were a superstar drought, until the merger, but he was Jokic before Jokic. Nothing he couldn't do on the floor, and maybe the best passing big man of all time. So glad he got to end his career with the Celtics, and be a great veteran presence for arguably the greatest team of all time.
@darioja2469
@darioja2469 10 ай бұрын
Agree with everything except best passing big man ever. That tittle belongs to Jokic and it’s not even close
@mikek7050
@mikek7050 10 ай бұрын
@@darioja2469 Saying Jokic is the best passing bigman is a liile bt being a prisoner of the momet. I'm not saying he isn'tk but there were certainly some guys from eras past, when big men were more important, I mean, Wild Chamverlain led the league in assists once year.
@Smoothyoki
@Smoothyoki 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but Walton was actually good at defence
@JelaniWood
@JelaniWood Жыл бұрын
Great list. Brought back all of sads since I started watching NBA in the mid 80's
@animeguitarguy
@animeguitarguy Жыл бұрын
Deron Williams was an interesting one for me. Super fun to watch and used to light Chris Paul up in the days where CP was considered the best pg
@gsrindictment2547
@gsrindictment2547 10 ай бұрын
Both were Actually Said 2B’ the Best Point Guards!…But Paul was More Popular & Stood Out More on Defense with his Steals Numbers, while Deron was the Much Better Shooter, Scorer, Averaged Slightly Higher Assist Totals & Made it to the PlayOffs Yearly!…Their Rivalry was Much Like Bird & Magic Except Williams got Injured B4 his Prime Years!…
@officialconch
@officialconch Жыл бұрын
Penny Hardaway was psychologically destroyed after losing to Allen Iverson in 1999 as a 1st seed. The Magic tied the best record in the East but had the best record against other teams in the eastern conference. As far as I’m concerned, they were the real 1st seed. Penny, despite missing the All Star Team (Iverson selected over him for his first appearance), averaged a career high in minutes and rebounds per game, the second most steals per game in his career, and his normal production in blocks and assists. His PPG were only a tick below his previous all star season and both round out to 16 a night. There was no indication he was “washed” until Iverson gave him 37 and 9 in the close out game, while he shot only 3/17 and never put on a Magic uniform again. Iverson blew up the remaining of that Shaq-led finals team and Horace Grant, Nick Anderson would also depart the organization.
@tdude3164
@tdude3164 Жыл бұрын
Bro the bulls haven't been the same since that drose injury 😢
@delonehayes7070
@delonehayes7070 11 ай бұрын
I think we would have won the chip that season if he didn't get injured. Even if not he would have been a champion at some point.
@tdude3164
@tdude3164 11 ай бұрын
@@delonehayes7070 100% would of won the chip that year. We had all the right pieces. Please someone give drose ja morants knees
@MrReese
@MrReese Жыл бұрын
I am still sad when I think of Rose, 10+ years later :X. He would have made the Bulls a proper contender for the entirety of the decade and beyond.
@simonforrest2522
@simonforrest2522 11 ай бұрын
It broke my heart what happened to Penny.. That dude was absolutely sensational for Orlando along with young Shaq. Still one of my all time faves
@rucianapollard4057
@rucianapollard4057 10 ай бұрын
Penney Hardaway was Kobe before Kobe!
@gregd806
@gregd806 Жыл бұрын
I'm here! What A great Video!
@3631956406
@3631956406 Жыл бұрын
Larry Bird is SO GREAT that he is one of the top 10 players of all time even with the injury that (kind of) ruined his career.
@jonathangonzales4115
@jonathangonzales4115 11 ай бұрын
Chill bra. His nickname is Larry legend. But yes, him building his mothers yard by himself did hurt him some
@PunisherNYCC
@PunisherNYCC Жыл бұрын
Bernard King should be number 1. He was a scoring machine. He could have played with Patrick Ewing in NY. The potential for a championship was incredible. He should be top three on this list
@ninoschouten9727
@ninoschouten9727 Жыл бұрын
Man you are grinding, a video every other day. Appreciate it!
@YSHRHAKING
@YSHRHAKING Жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual. It's the Jonny formula! At first it makes you think "There are no surprises on this list? Seen it all before." Then as you keep watching, you can't help but wonder who will be next on the list and you're reminded of players you forgot about! Great job!
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 Жыл бұрын
It's really sad the debate show era had absolutely no idea how good Shaun Livingston was.
@august6281
@august6281 Жыл бұрын
aside from the obvious players, i have Amare here. #32 Amare was a beast but due to his early injury and changing to #1, poked eyes and playing with googles, he became a more well rounded player but a lesser beast. That #32 will be a HOF if he had the original trajectory.
@mattcomer6379
@mattcomer6379 11 ай бұрын
I think he would've made the NBA 75 if he would have stayed healthy. Even then he still made 5 All NBA teams and was a 6 time all star
@dyinbreedmedia4345
@dyinbreedmedia4345 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are wonderful and informative. Have you ever thought about who was the best wing player in the league during Jordan's first retirement?
@jimmorris1424
@jimmorris1424 Жыл бұрын
I will always and always be heartbroken about D 🌹. I still remember watching this man live. Unbelievable. Never seen someone so quick, athletic and powerful.
@cnelsonlv99
@cnelsonlv99 11 ай бұрын
Rose is for sure #1 on this list... anybody suggesting it's someone else is utterly clueless! Dude hadn't even come close to his full potential, and was already arguably the most dominant force in the NBA. Heart-breaking as a fan, but more than that, a huge loss for the NBA.
@chanendlerbong
@chanendlerbong Жыл бұрын
Ralph Sampson is missing on this list, also D-Rose should have been #1
@Seahawks1115
@Seahawks1115 Жыл бұрын
I know he never played in the NBA or even College but Ben Wilson had a lot of potential
@rucianapollard4057
@rucianapollard4057 10 ай бұрын
He and Len Bias are the 2 biggest "What If" athletes of all time! RIP to them both
@balkeym1309
@balkeym1309 11 ай бұрын
There gotta be a Drazen Petrovic... 30 years ago this day, the tragedy happened. But yeah, no one knows how Mozart would've done, especially after he had his best season in '93
@user-jw5qj8kv2y
@user-jw5qj8kv2y Жыл бұрын
Come to think of it, Derrick Rose and Penny Hardaway have something in common that they graduated from the University of Memphis.
@Kingbossdon
@Kingbossdon 11 ай бұрын
You hit all them on the money see this is why I'm a faithful subscriber love all your videos Johnny
@nefariousmex2352
@nefariousmex2352 Жыл бұрын
Penny Hardaways my fav
@nahtzeelover4248
@nahtzeelover4248 Жыл бұрын
hey Jonny, nice vid even though i haven't watched it yet
@nebbalf
@nebbalf Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention to Shawn Kemp. Sure it wasn't injury that slowed his career down, rather it was a combination of personal demons and food. It was in any case wasted potential.
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 Жыл бұрын
Definitely understand you! Kemp should have been the type of player he was in the 96 Finals for years to come . But instead the weight and the personal demons took hold as you stated.
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
I think those personal demons is keeping Shawn Kemp from the Hall of Fame. He was the man on those great Seattle teams not Payton but Gary Payton is in the HOF. Kemp was the most outstanding player of the 1996 finals even though Chicago won. He was fabulous
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 11 ай бұрын
@@mongoslade277 Much agreed. In my honest opinion, it should have been a Jerry West situation again. If you know what I am talking about?
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
@@ktapreswreckd921v9 I know what you're talking about & Kemp should've been Finals MVP like Jerry West. Jordan only shot like 40% in that series but there was no one else to give it to
@alecboulton3537
@alecboulton3537 Жыл бұрын
WAKE UP BABE JONNY DROPPED
@Homer-OJ-Simpson
@Homer-OJ-Simpson Жыл бұрын
We saw Grant Hill play up to the middle of his prime. His injuries started at age 28, his 7th season. Bill Walton was certainly headed to a top 5-8 center of all time. Possibly the best defensive player of that era, one of the best rebounders, the best passing big man, and just a great all around player. He didn't have explosive scoring which is why top 5 center would be difficult. Rose would have been great. He played only to 22 before injuries. At age 22 his per 75 possession stats were 27pts 8 ast & lead the league in offensive box plus minus. I would put Rose above Len Bias because we at least saw Rose was indeed for sure headed to top 20 all time if he kept up his improvements. Rose is like Ja Morant if Ja could actually finish near the basket as well as Rose
@lamarlatimore7802
@lamarlatimore7802 Жыл бұрын
If Klay never got injured we would still be potentially looking at a Dynasty
@andrewcook1246
@andrewcook1246 Жыл бұрын
Healthy Klay means Warriors threepeat '19
@michaelbarnes2126
@michaelbarnes2126 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Len Bias would have been a monster with the Celtics and it would have expanded Larry's career maybe. Also Brandon Roy is another sad one. I watched him a lot he was incredible even after all those surgeries and injuries. His last playoff game he went crazy
@lamarlatimore7802
@lamarlatimore7802 Жыл бұрын
A healthy Kawhi can shutdown Lebron and Bully Kevin Durant. The West would have flowed differently if the clipper were healthy
@tridra5714
@tridra5714 Жыл бұрын
kd dropped 50 on kawhi and lebron averaged 28 points on 60 percent shooting on kawhi. That being said kawhi is possibly the greatest man defender ever however he already had a chance with the clippers where he blew a 3-1 lead to the nuggets after hyping up the battle for la then the next year the clips went down 2-0 to the jazz after winning a series vs the mavs that shouldn't have even gone that far kawhi got injured before game 5 of the jazz series.
@kp9593
@kp9593 Жыл бұрын
Those stats you giving probably inaccurate. But kawhi been healthy he is full of crap.
@wilt7505
@wilt7505 Жыл бұрын
Define shutdown 😂 Kawhi is an all time great but when did he shutdown LeBron
@bobharley1
@bobharley1 Жыл бұрын
@@tridra5714 The 2014 finals run made Kawhi's reputation as a Lebron stopper until he became more of a scorer in Toronto and his knees failed him. Also helped that he was in a system with insane ball movement while Lebron had an aging roster.
@shay_z6059
@shay_z6059 Жыл бұрын
@@wilt7505 tell me yur a casual without telling me yur a casual
@mchild80
@mchild80 Жыл бұрын
I love your list. I was really expecting to see Ralph Sampson on this list. From 83-87 he had a better career than Yao even though Akeem was taking away a lot of his points. He led a team to the finals in his 3rd season while gentlemen sweeping the NBA Champion Lakers and making Kareem officially look old. Hes always been my biggest what if because he and Olajuwon were poised to dominate the west for the unforeseeable future.
@ThePrufessa
@ThePrufessa Жыл бұрын
I'm mad Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf didn't make his list and I think he should have been higher.
@averyce2
@averyce2 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Two glaring omissions: Jay Williams (CHI) and Sam Bowie (POR). Their careers were cut short with tremendous potential for greatness. Grant Hill, Tracey McGrady and Bill Walton were all recognized during and after their long and iconic careers as HOF'ers; their potential was met or exceeded.
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
NONSENSE. That jason wiiiliams did Nothing for the Bulls when he played. That's why the next season they drafted Kirk Hinrich the point guard outta Kansas in the 1st round. The Bulls could've voided his contract for riding a motorcycle. They shouldn't have paid his dumbass. Only Portland would've drafted Bowie as the 2nd overall pick. Missed 2 seasons at Kentucky with a broken foot. Portland drafted LaRue Martin & Bill Walton & Mychal Thompson with the #1 overall pick. None of those centers worked out so they draft "fragileman" with the 2nd overall pick. That's just dumb
@nemodeniro3947
@nemodeniro3947 10 ай бұрын
Great video idea
@Lloyd00
@Lloyd00 11 ай бұрын
Brandon Roy was destined for greatness. So sad. I loved watching him play
@silvianosanchez8430
@silvianosanchez8430 Жыл бұрын
Your choices were great. I would add, Michael Ray Richardson (Drugs), Drazen Petrovic (Car accident), Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (American Racism), and Reggie Lewis (Heart Issues).
@Peakfreud
@Peakfreud Жыл бұрын
Rauf, was done dirtier than any NBA player in history. If they did what they did to him in 2023, the entire NBA would be cancelled
@direkramseychikboy9102
@direkramseychikboy9102 11 ай бұрын
Ron Harper was a phenomenal star in Cavs and Clippers. His injury ruined him. He got rings as a supporting cast in Jordan led Bulls.
@uberneanderthal
@uberneanderthal Жыл бұрын
I'd put Alex Groza #1. as a rookie, he was already the 2nd best player in the league to Mikan, and no one else was even close. he got banned from the NBA for a college point-shaving scandal which he was probably bullied into participating in as a kid, completely unfair. same with Bill Spivey, who had the potential to be Wilt before Wilt but never even got a chance in the NBA.
@tj5180
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
He’s a another what if I’ve never heard of outside of Maurice Stokes.
@xfacta334
@xfacta334 Жыл бұрын
Connie Hawkins comes to mind as well due to being falsely accused.
@bretskywater774
@bretskywater774 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree I was thinking the same thing as I was reading. This article and probably took two championships minimum away from the Celtics. Those two players in a five year. Passing away crazy
@patrickbump5955
@patrickbump5955 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I would also include LMU’s Hank Gathers on this list. He was a force as a forward during this college career who would’ve had a tremendous NBA career. He tragically died while playing in his Junior year. He was a very good, positive young man. RIP.
@frankpagel39
@frankpagel39 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Drazen Petrovic (died due to car accident) is missing on this list.
@YourFitnessQuest
@YourFitnessQuest 10 ай бұрын
Nice list. I've always been a big Derrick Rose fan. I made a top 100 NBA players of all time list and was sad to realize that he was the only MVP winner who couldn't quite make the rank in the top 100. I still root for him and have great empathy for any player who's potential was derailed due to injuries.
@kingko3897
@kingko3897 10 ай бұрын
Other players that could've been on the list: Derrick Coleman, Kenny Anderson, Dražen Petrović (that early 90's Nets team had great young talent), Ralph Sampson, Larry Johnson, Bernard King, Reggie Lewis, Sidney Moncrief, Steve Francis, Baron Davis, Shawn Kemp, Gilbert Arenas, John Wall, Andrew Bynum, Mark Price, Jamal Mashburn, Jimmy Jackson, Glenn Robinson, Brad Daugherty, Danny Granger, Tim Hardaway, Kevin Johnson, Deron Williams, Ron Harper, Juwan Howard, Bobby Hurley, Vin Baker, Antonio McDyess, Lamar Odom, Blake Griffin.
@mikiec125
@mikiec125 Жыл бұрын
Crazy part tmac had injuries since highschool. He had a back issue along with others.
@honestabe4768
@honestabe4768 11 ай бұрын
Great list. I think you nailed it. Personally, i would probably have Yao at 1 or 2 just b/c of the impact he had globally. He singlehandedly created a path into the largest untapped market in the world. Very few, if any, have had that kind of impact. Just imagine if he had a 10-12 year NBA career.
@infiniteuniverse9528
@infiniteuniverse9528 11 ай бұрын
For the record, Duke players almost always under-achieve in the NBA. So many national player of the year award winners and top draft picks resulted in becoming bench/role players in the NBA. Turns out they were "System" guys who were no good outside of coach K's system.
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
EXCEPT for Grant Hill that statement is true. On the other hand look at how well the North Carolina players under Dean Smith did in the NBA. That's bc he held them back. They weren't allowed to show everything. The NBA was easy for them
@florianpoulin7108
@florianpoulin7108 11 ай бұрын
I would have mentionned too : -Drazen Petrovic (along side with Len Bias) -Ron Harper (was able to challenge Jordan when he was full potential) -Tim Hardaway (unstoppable with his quick fist step) -Patrick Ewing (Even if he lost the 1994 NBA finals, he was diminished and injuried during the 1999 NBA finals and the Knicks lost... But Robinson was also and win)
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
At least Robinson played in that 1999 Finals. Patrick Ewing couldn't
@florianpoulin7108
@florianpoulin7108 11 ай бұрын
@@mongoslade277 Yeah but in 1999 Robinson was the shadow of what he was before, and became champion without carrying his team.
@mapotooo6583
@mapotooo6583 11 ай бұрын
Honorable mentions for potentialy better careers if not the early injuries: Arvydas Sabonis, Peja Stojakovic, Vince Carter, Allen Iverson etc.
@baseballruler0344
@baseballruler0344 11 ай бұрын
grew up in the mid-late 2000s and brandon roy made me fall in love with the game, was scared that he wouldn’t be on this list lol
@WarioSaysSo
@WarioSaysSo 10 ай бұрын
33# Grant Hill was a major prospect who had a lot of potentials to become great star in the NBA, but injurues killed his best career days and after a few years lost all that. His rookie seasons in the Detroit Pistons was some great time to see him play.
@idsassi
@idsassi Жыл бұрын
If you put Len Bias first, you have to put Reggie Lewis, afro-american small forward like Bias who was drafted 1 year after by the Celtics too, becoming the 4th man of the famous Celtics trio and the captain after Bird retirement, and died very sadly of an heart attack in the 1993 playoffs
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett Жыл бұрын
Definitely could be on an honorable mentions list. I just thought the potential of Bias was much higher. Lewis had already spent 6 seasons in the league, and he was almost 28 when he died. At that point, we had a pretty decent idea of what kind of player he was
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyarnett a video on Dream Team 2 (94 FIBA Team) PLEASE
@rapgodreloaded9259
@rapgodreloaded9259 Жыл бұрын
What about Sam Bowie? he could've been Kevin Durant, Joel Embiid and Giannis of the 80s
@kyreljones7185
@kyreljones7185 Жыл бұрын
the Celtics already had a 4th man to the trio and that was Dennis Johnson
@tj5180
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
@@kyreljones7185 by then johnson was aging and past his prime
@MORON_Gaming
@MORON_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Drazen Petrovik would have been in the goat conversation if he never died.
@chrisphillips348
@chrisphillips348 Жыл бұрын
Hands down it’s David Thompson!! Even before I watch this!!
@erelschechter7632
@erelschechter7632 Жыл бұрын
Where is Ja and Zion😅
@bolt7047
@bolt7047 Жыл бұрын
Ja is still doing good. Off the court stuff isn't impacting his play on the court.
@alecboulton3537
@alecboulton3537 Жыл бұрын
@@bolt7047 ja ab to get the first 82 game suspension 😂
@999lilo
@999lilo Жыл бұрын
Zion give him 5 Years max to see what happens hopefully he stays healthy tho
@123shotas
@123shotas Жыл бұрын
​@@bolt7047he a 🤡
@123shotas
@123shotas Жыл бұрын
​@@999lilo"Next Lebron James" 😂
@tkbrohey4260
@tkbrohey4260 Жыл бұрын
Hank Gathers dude was a beast with Loyola Marymount.
@doursiesel9867
@doursiesel9867 11 ай бұрын
Could add Bernard King to this list. He was a baller for NYK before the injuries
@JamesWoodring-mu2iz
@JamesWoodring-mu2iz Жыл бұрын
as a nba fan for 50 years its thompson all day long, hel_ even mj modeled his game after thompsons . great career cut short by bad decesions jmop thanks for the vid .shout out to rose and hill also great players
@rezarfar
@rezarfar 11 ай бұрын
D Rose is the biggest what if in NBA history and one of the biggest in sports history. Man is the youngest MVP in NBA history. He was on course to be in the GOAT discussion.
@pkfreeze175
@pkfreeze175 10 ай бұрын
Solid list. A guy who deserves being mentioned is Andrew Toney aka The Boston Strangler.
@michaelthreepeat
@michaelthreepeat Жыл бұрын
Great list. Only the experts put Len Bias, very nice. Some honorable mentions: Arvydas Sabonis, Mahmud Abdul Rauf, Greg Oden, Vin Baker, Ben Gordon, Rodney Rogers, Johnathan Bender, Richard Dumas, Eddie Griffin, and soon Ja Morant
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
Good list but people like Bias & Washburn & Keith Lee and William Bedford & Tarpley I won't put on a list like this. Their wounds were self inflicted
@michaelthreepeat
@michaelthreepeat 11 ай бұрын
@@mongoslade277 good point
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 11 ай бұрын
@@michaelthreepeat Forgot about Richard Dumas also. Not from the 80's but he had a bad problem. Morant is from a rural part of South Carolina but he's a wannabe gangsta. What if Abdul Rauf was blacklisted. Ben Gordon was a walking bucket. Man he could shoot. Rodney Rogers the physical force. Funny how Vin Baker replaced Kemp in Seattle with the same alcohol & food issues. I remember Eddie Griffin outta Seton Hall but don't really know his story
@michaelthreepeat
@michaelthreepeat 11 ай бұрын
@@mongoslade277 oh, gow could I forget him, Royce White !
@ktapreswreckd921v9
@ktapreswreckd921v9 Жыл бұрын
Shawn Kemp should have been a all-star type player until the year of 2007 or 2008. But instead weight and issues ruined it 😔.
@MrKinsenas
@MrKinsenas Жыл бұрын
Clicked as fast as I could!
@nathanlawson313
@nathanlawson313 10 ай бұрын
Prime Grant Hill was so good that he IS in the Hall of Fame ...and still on this list. He was on his way to top 10 (possibly top 5 player) of all time.
@Mektek19
@Mektek19 Жыл бұрын
Before even watching the guys that come to mind are Ralph Sampson, Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, and Derrick Rose.
@RamboCommando69
@RamboCommando69 11 ай бұрын
As a Bulls fan seeing D-Rose get injured over and over again was the most painful thing that could have happened to him. If Rose had not gotten injured so much he maybe could have led the Bulls to some championships
@showtimenick824
@showtimenick824 11 ай бұрын
Lol Bill Walton's injury history is enough to even make Anthony Davis blush.
@OrhanEfeOzenc
@OrhanEfeOzenc 11 ай бұрын
We can name many, like Oscar Schmidt and Nikos Gallis, in addition to the ones mentioned in the comments below. I have two for myself: 1) Connie Hawkins and 2) Bob Kurland. I could also add Marvin Barnes, Reggie Harding, Hank Gathers, etc. but those two could have changed the landscape of the NBA altogether in their respective eras - btw, the 60's weren't supposed to be such a one-sided decade, it wasn't just meant to be more colorful, because of the absence of Hawkins, Stokes, Bob Rule and many other 'casualties'.
@showtimenick824
@showtimenick824 11 ай бұрын
More people need to learn about Maurice Stokes so we can stop with the plumbers and janitors BS!!!!!! I'm glad you made a separate video on him and brought him up again here.
@kevzter15
@kevzter15 Жыл бұрын
crazy to not see any drazen petrovic or paul george on this list. Drazen could’ve been a top 5 scorer comparable to bron, Mj, kd, kobe, etc, and paul george would’ve been a top 4-5 SF OAT if he never had that leg injury, he was going toe to toe with miami bron in 2013 and 2014
@rafaelraad555
@rafaelraad555 Жыл бұрын
I always had Grand Hill, T-Mac and Penny more or less tied in first place. I have both Kway and AD somewhere in the middle tier I also have Zion in my list. Dont want to be negative but he hasnt been healthy.
@ernel7261
@ernel7261 10 ай бұрын
Andrew Toney. If he didn't get those injuries, he'd be in the HoF and probably have more than 1 championship.
@robwasilewski9273
@robwasilewski9273 Жыл бұрын
Reggie Lewis should also be on this list
@jameshunt3651
@jameshunt3651 4 ай бұрын
Great list! I wonder if there was any consideration for players like Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, or even Larry Bird. Players that had great careers but all had chronic injuries (coincidentally all back injuries) that held them back from their full potential. Makes sense they aren’t on the list, but would they have made a top 15?
@betterthanyesterday3912
@betterthanyesterday3912 11 ай бұрын
That blue Nuggest jersey David Thompson is wearing is AWESOME
@kck08bro30
@kck08bro30 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video bro! But no Gilbert Arenas!?
@unvunb7157
@unvunb7157 Жыл бұрын
Grant Hill
@ryanscaggs1674
@ryanscaggs1674 11 ай бұрын
If Len Bias doesn't OD and Reggie Lewis doesn't have heart failure, them and Jordan would've gone toe to toe in the 90s and Jordan likely doesn't have 6 rings. Their deaths would be the equivalent of Durant/Westbrook or Curry/Klay dying before ever playing and we all know how much that would've impacted Lebron's legacy, possibly 2 more rings, probably another MVP as well in '14. It's crazy how tragic deaths have shaped NBA history.
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