Cheap VS. Expensive Audio Cable - Are VOVOX Cables a SCAM ???

[@mrchrmn]

i definitely hear a difference between cable and no cable!

[@sevsmith2476]

yeah there's a tiny little difference I can notice😶

[@mrchrmn]

@@sevsmith2476 It always depends on the person. For some, it sounds better without a cable.

[@mofateam1]

How do you do that ???

[@mrchrmn]

@@mofateam1 It must be some kind of divine gift.

[@theclaverman]

Hehe…yep. Without cable there is no sound🥳

[@ChristianRafaelmusic]

Cable quality is real! If you have non shielded or low percent of shielding cables you will run into electrical noise issues depending on your houses electrical build. I have experienced a\c humming when using shitty cables. Once I even picked up a local radio station feeding into my wires. Its crazy! So now I used all shielded monster cables and monster power condenser filter for a super clean signal. 😊

[@JohnDoe-qr4xu]

Exactly. I had to replace all the cables to get rid of noise. It's now clean after doing it. It was very noticeable.

[@JohnDoe-qr4xu]

@@thrale what you need are shielded TRS balanced cables.

[@marcchartrand4959]

I agree with you. You would have to have great ears and listen intently in order to hear anything at all. The sound may even get worse with the expensive cable. When I listen to music it is for enjoyment and I am not listening so intently to hear every pop, boom or twang. Waste of money. Buy a nice cable that you think looks nice and that is all. Not worth spending hundreds or thousands for short cables in a house or small studio. Perhaps in a concert level with long runs cables would matter but not for short runs that most of us are using them for.

[@Fexiheit]

The main difference between cheap and expensive cables is the electro-magnetic shield. If you have power cables or transformers next to your audio cables these might cause some noise or interference to your audio if you use cheap cables whereas the expensive cables leaves the audio clean, so in such situations the price DO make a difference :)

[@Lasloon]

THIS - I was thinking about it the whole time watching, and hoped that he would also test that. I recently added a lifx led strip to the back of my desk which causes alot of electrical interference when running a mic cable along side it. I tried buying some better (cordial) ones, but it's the same. I ended up simply routing my cables differently to avoid them being close to the led strip. But I'm really wondering if the really expensive cables could eliminate this problem?

[@DimitrisPapmusic]

Totally agree ....

[@Yves-fj5wb]

Just took apart a cheap china 8x TRS MultiCore the other week and the shield was of terrible quality, almost non existent. So I agree, with the very cheap cables and some electricity around you may have issues....

[@shq1723]

Yes, for live performance situations, sure, but for well planned out studios, or home studios, this would be pretty much pointless...

[@dokerz]

Yup, cables matter...

[@MuscleEire]

Anyone who dislikes this video is either a salesperson for expensive cables or, worse, replaced all their regular cables with the 300 bucks ones 🤣

[@MarcoPolux]

hahaah exactly right.

[@LabofmusicRecords]

it's all about marketing, not wort it to spend 100.- for cables

[@mattevans1427]

I replaced my $10 cables with $60 cables. Definitly a difference for the better. Did listening tests with a seaoned musician friend. But only when I upgraded all the cables in the chain. I originally only upgraded some and it didn't do anything because there was still some turd in the chain. It looks like Jon didn't have anything else in the chain, just the AD and DA. If the AD or DA is not amazing, the difference probably won't be heard or matter though. Jons crap cable may also be actually good. Who knows.

[@18CC]

I agree but not for what u think. Vovox are better cable for mic and guitar. Not really for speaker that's all. So it's idiot to say the brand is scam. + it's hand made in europe. So it's not cheap like made in china with slave workers. I guess u prefer slave workers to save ur money. humm

[@maex440]

I like to solder cables myself: Sommer Cable + Neutrik PS: It mostly makes a difference for the technicians in usability, durability and maintenance.

[@Sagerydian]

The difference shows when you out "delicate" signals through it, like a weak guitar signal. If you use a very strong signal out of modern Synths for instance, then you barely will hear a difference - also the longer the cables are the duller the sound will become. There are multiple videos on here that demonstrate that effect very well. You can counter it by using high quality cables with less resistance, you can use shorter cables or you can use a buffer. It is a fact that you should know. If you say cables do not matter, why you don't use cheap, unbalanced, 100 feet cables in your studio? Because of sound loss. And you know that.

[@victoromarmunoztenorio3647]

You do know what you're talking about.

[@hinsen]

Hey Jon. You can test regular cheap mopads made of acoustic foam vs expensive IsoAcoustic Stands for studio monitors :)

[@gregrelmueab2142]

there will be a huuuuge difference, love my iso pucks mini

[@hinsen]

I also bought a mini for my KRK monitors but I was a bit guided by advertising and marketing mush instead of common sense, so I was wondering if I had overpaid and that maybe it would better to choose a cheaper solution :)

[@mikelo303]

Isoacustic is a complete rip off company.

[@memaxsea]

Man, What were you expecting? Really, 10m cable at line level test? Try it on a microphone signal, especially ribbon mics which need at least 60 db of gain ove 60 meters. That would be a much fair test.

[@emilkey12]

Been using codial for years, never had a cable break on me. But i'd have to disagree with it being a *complete* ripoff to a certain degree. With an unbalanced connection, especially in an environment where there are a lot of possibilities for interference (guitar recording without a DI in a Studio with lots of analog gear), higher quality cables with a better shielding can make a significant difference.

[@mikelo303]

Agreed. Shielding is more important than cables themselves. Better shielding, better sound quality.

[@dsquareddan]

you're not really going to tell a difference on a 10' cable run. do 300' like an XLR run from FOH to stage at a festival (tho most will be digital over EtherCon nowadays or fibre). but at those lengths you can start getting voltage drops. also higher quality cables have better shielding if you run them near high voltage power.

[@MrSunnyday4u]

I have heard more difference between regular jack cables on guitars. They can change the tone of your sound. Especially if you run longer lengths

[@artistschoice2009]

i don't think its only about the sound (you can't hear the difference) but in durability in the quality. I think the vovox wil be better schielded and don't break as fast as the cheaper ones.

[@springV127]

I did a test with a high end cable and a cheap cable. my assistant and I heard the differences (vocals test). I was expecting to hear the difference in yours but I couldn’t hear it one bit. My high end cable was thicker than the cheap ( about double). Maybe that’s why we could hear? IDK

[@fullalbums5675]

how did you split the microphone signal? You either heard the splitter, or did a different take so the test wasn't meaningful

[@theclaverman]

Did they cancel each other out when you flipped the phase on one of them? The only true way to do a test like that is to split the signal so that it is going into both cables at the same time into different inputs on the audio interface/console and then flip the phase on one of them…. Or do a recording , and then re-record it thru the two different cables (and then flip the polarity on one of the takes).

[@Padillajose]

Could the cables running to the monitors be degrading the sound therefore making you believe all cables are the same?

[@Jonsine]

No. The sound u heard in the video wasn’t played or captured using the speakers.

[@Padillajose]

Right, I do understand that. I was more so saying if you’re using inexpensive or cheap cables connected to your studio monitors wouldn’t what you hear out of the monitors possibly be a degraded sound. Making you believe that cables don’t make a difference. Would it be possible to hear a more accurate representation of frequencies IF you used the best of cables for your monitors as well. I would love to see it!

[@Hardcrow777]

About cables, i use lamp cord for speaker cables 😄 And it works very good 😊 It was a hifi veteran who reccomended lamp cord instead of Monster cables and other expensive cables.

[@MattVorn]

More expensive cables are usually better insulated. This results in less electromagnetism interference which then prevents thermal noise and as a result this of course correlates to a lower noise floor. Premium materials also tend to have improved electrical conductance too and so the flow of charge is better. Basically what I'm trying to say is that yes, you can build cables out of rare materials that can be expensive. You can also engineer cables in a way that mitigates interference which can be of a lot of value to high end listening environments. In short, as mentioned on other comments I study electro acoustics and when you get into spending stupid amounts of money on cables then the difference isn't worth the money. However spending £50 as opposed to £1 on a cable is generally worth it. Not simply because of the quality of the cable, but also the longevity!

[@TonyThomas10000]

I sold electronic parts and cable for 20 years. There are differences in cables...but most have to do with shielding and durability when flexed a lot. Cable quality is most critical for something like unbalanced cables---especially guitar cables where shielding is a huge issue and high capacitance can reduce high frequencies. Good quality shielding, jacket, connectors, and strain reliefs are what I look for. I love Neutik connectors. Switchcraft are good as well. As for power cable for audio, it is not shielded so I would not recommend it. I also heard of people successfully using cheap CAT5E networking cable for audio applications. You can buy baluns and snakes to so that you can use the standard CAT5E connectors. That would be cool for you to test.

[@maxamillion2140]

The main differences of cables is usually bandwidth or quality (with a built in warranty)

[@FrancisJoa]

You can hear the difference when you have to use longer cables. The longer the cable is the better the cable has to be.

[@S4f3ty_Marc]

I could clearly hear a difference between the expensive and cheap, the expensive cables had better bass the kick had a more full sound to it, the best way to test them is direct to your speakers, as this where the sound is going to end up...People also say using high quality power cables will improve the sound, I've seen kettle leads at £20K...haha

[@theclaverman]

Yes its called placebo. If they perfectly, cancel out each other with one of them phase flipped 180degres, then…I’m sorry to tell you…THERE ARE NO DIFFERENCE.(No matter what you think you are hearing)

[@迷宫道]

Your mind tricks you bro, there is no difference

[@instrugramm]

It depends on the gear, if you run externally powered monitors, the cable connecting the DAC to the amp and especially the speakers to the amp does make a noticeable difference. Not talking about moon priced cables or so, just anything other than very cheap stuff. You can only tell a difference once your cables get pretty long (better shielding, better/more conductors etc.), for short runs even a cheap cable will do the job. Ps. I absolutely agree that cables should be the very last factor and room acoustics are what needs to be improved before anything else.

[@johanjordaan2461]

If there is a tiny difference (which I think Jon acknowledged). Now lets connect devices in a chain of say 10 ... The additive difference will quickly become big (My hypothesis). I'd like to see that test :). Also run the cables across the studio close to some noise sources like an aircon etc ... Again the difference in one cable might be tiny but adding it up it might get large quickly ... BTW: Im not a salesperson for any cables :P

[@MartinFellerMusic]

I started soldering my own cables last week. I cannot hear any differences as well. But, I'm using gold plated neutrik connectors because regular ones oxydize really fast. The gold plated ones will last way longer. I completely agree with the video Jon! Though, for long cable runs (more than 20 meters) I would buy a cable with better shielding to prevent anything from interrupting. Still wouldn't spend €300,- on one cable jeezzzzzz

[@ItsGrantM]

Did you test analogue? I cant really tell from your test. So unless its an analogue signal, there cant be any distinguishable difference because it will be binary signals.

[@TheOfficialSiNN]

The main reason you go with certain cables is for longevity. The copper gold cables tend to last much longer, but the price is silly. You’ll just replacing cables less with the higher end cables.

[@bigbaby987]

with the amount of gear you have.. think about all of those small differences each cable makes will add up to a big difference. if you're just a/b'ing one or two things.. small differences the majority of the time. *I* will only use the best cables my money can buy. That way, I won't worry about the small differences.

[@JordanMcVeyDrums]

The blunt honesty of this video is incredible. Love your stuff!

[@cordellsounds]

I'm pretty sure I can here a difference in the fullness of the kick and the clarity of the midrange. Extremely subtle and I thought it was just my eyes playing tricks on my ears but came back to it and closed my eyes and definitely heard a subtle switch. Is everything definitely perfectly level matched? I've never paid too much attention to the cables in my studio and despite what you are saying I'm sure I hear a difference even with youtube compression and am now questioning it.

[@Jonsine]

Maybe download the files and redo it

[@prodby430]

Did the same test with some Cordial and some 2534 Mogami Cables... There was a big difference if you invert the phase. The bass also sounded tighter with the Mogami Cables then with the Cordial Cables.

[@DuoAwadru]

Yes ! Me too, between Monster Cable vs Vovox. Vovox is better, with more transients, more space and more accurate. The Monster Cable is mud in the low frequencies I use the Vovox cables between the Neumann TLM193 microphone and the Merging HAPI audio interface. I think cables are important when recording a natural acoustic source -> analog (minimum recording frequency = 192kHz). But the superior quality of the cable makes no sense if you use it for synthetic sound because the digital side has lost a lot of transient and depth.

[@prodby430]

@@DuoAwadru I don’t know the monster cable but cardial vs vovox had no different at all. Don’t get the point why people pay that much for a vovox cable if a cable for under 10 € sounds the same.

[@DuoAwadru]

@@prodby430 Yes friend Explanation regarding the difference in quality of audio cables that is often overlooked: Here what matters is the quality of the copper AND the solders which for audio systems are an amalgam of tin and at least 10% silver. The gold plated used in audio for jack plugs is less conductive and only serves to prevent oxidation. So the quality of the cables is more particularly important when recording a natural acoustic source -> Analog (minimum recording frequency = 192 kHz, yes we want high-end sound!). For example: use Vovox cables between a Neumann TLM193 microphone and a Merging HAPI audio interface (in short, a precision hardware set because the weak link will limit the entire audio information circulation chain: electrons). AND ALSO the quality of a cable is important when doing phase inversions for the definition of the sound. Now, the premium quality of the cable makes no sense if you're using it for synthetic sound because a digital audio source has lost a lot of transients and depth (depending on sample rate without conversion of course). Indeed, between 192kHz and 96kHz there is a clear loss of audio depth that is quite audible with good headphones. In any case in Mastering it is very relevant Before converting the sound for the general public to 96kHz or 48kHz. There, of course, we are no longer quite within the listening domain of the majority of today's general public, especially since the era of destructive compression in mp3 and small earphones in the ears.

[@tobiashodel172]

Try Sonarworks in an acoustically poor room. Then you could again measure the audio signal that was adjusted by Sonarworks with REW to see how strongly a DSP software optimizes the frequency response. (Apart from the reverberation times). I would be very interested.

[@maximilianheinrich1049]

have you actually tried if the slight difference in the null test also appears when you compare two different bounces with the same cable? could it be just because of analog randomness in adda-conversion?

[@samsguitarprogress7806]

up to a certain price point your paying for good shielding and interference reduction. its worth getting well shielded cables if you dont know where your cables are going to end up- or you know they are going to end up somewhere with allot of electric fields.

[@AntonioRockGP]

Just came here to read the comments of people saying they can hear a difference! ahah

[@deaffatalbruno]

beside the shielding, what makes a difference is the coating of the pin, WHEN u live in salty air environment. 100%, .. I am around 2-3 miles ( < 5km) from the ocean atm and shitty connectors corrode like butter melts in the sun.

[@_Toxxi_]

I was always thinking about this, I know a store, where they have 1.5m long cables for 1500€🤣

[@kevinhuman6275]

I think it’s in my mind, but it sounds like there’s a very slight difference between cheap and expensive. But impossible right because of the phase test? Kick drum sounds a hair more separated with the expensive one (?) maybe.

[@theclaverman]

…or maybe not😆 its just placebo. If they cancel each other out, then there really is no difference.

[@poeniiii]

Have once tried replacing dat cables between my interface and adda, sound much better after replacing. Not sure if I make a mistake before or the cable really wear out already.

[@Yves-fj5wb]

I tested Vovox at Musikmesse. My opinion is that with Single Coil guitars and passive basses the cable makes a big difference. For XLR cables I could not notice a difference...

[@theclaverman]

Big diffence huh? Not just a difference, but a big one? Sorry, but subjective opinions really doesn’t matter here. The only honest way to really tell a Vovox apart from a cheaper cable is by a null test(like in this video) . If they cancel each other out, then there is NO difference. I’m not saying that Vovox cables could not make any positive difference in sound on single coils and passive basses, I’m only saying that our minds can really playing tricks with us (placebo), and therefore cannot be trusted in tests like: “What sounds best? The expensive cable or the cheap one?”

[@Yves-fj5wb]

@@theclaverman Hi Simon. I am absolutely with you and your comment. Since I do not own any Vovox cables (price vs. perceived improvement does not make sense to me - especially in my semi professional world), I could not perform any null tests. So I my statement above is clearly based on my subjective perception at the fair. There was an iso-room with a guitar player, a Fender strat and amp and two guitar cables: a Monster cable and a Vovox cable. While the guitarist was playing and I was in front of the amp, two helpers simultaneously switched the cables at guitar and amp. This process was repeated several times. And yes, fully aware of effects like placebo and confirmation bias, but the perceived difference was eye opening! 😱 Nevertheless, prior to buying something like this, I would borrow it to perform proper testing in the studio... 👍 And just to be clear: I do not believe that there is ANY noticeable difference between a mid-range symmetric cable and one of these expensive Vovox symmetric cables, like Jon tested in this vid...

[@Kilzu1]

XLR cables (or any balanced cable really) have no difference in sound quallity whatsoever untill you go over 100 meter cables or close to it. Where the difference is pretty much with shielded cables in area of how much electromagnetic static there is (for example when you rub cables against each other, and even then you are able to hear it if you amplify the sound ALOT). Now there's a point where you want to buy vovox cables, and that's pretty much quallity. They are durable as heck, but other than that, the benefits for audio are around area, where you need to amplify recordings so high, that you can pretty much hear when you drop the cable on the table and so on.

[@carstenrosemann6526]

I use Nordost Odin Gold in my Stereo and there is a big difference in sound between the odin and the cordal. Also a big difference in price.

[@jasonsavory9748]

One actual difference between the cheapest cables will be the shielding quality so if you have to run your audio next to power cables, then you will notice that. But no need to spend hudnreds, just get a cable with good shielding (the pro snake stuff is even good enough for this)

[@jasonsavory9748]

Which explains why the power cable worked well

[@prodby430]

Can't agree with you one the pro snake cable. I compared them with some Mogami and there was a big difference even with Line Signal and inverting the phase. The Pro Snake is total garbage... and noticeable also if you run a couple of them...

[@Bogdyindahous]

I had one problem with a xlr cable. So the cable with the problem was from Teufel, you know the company. And that cable was severely lowering the volume power for the passive pole, audio out for a speaker..Changed that with another cable and the difference in volume between the audio receiver and the speaker out of the receiver was literally almost non existent. So I don't know. It depends, but not all the time, I guess

[@AlexisGitarre]

I 'm comparing cables since 10 years now and measured them. VOVOX beside the sound has the worst build quality ever. In 10 years I had almost 30 of them for repair. Their design is only made for fix installation. like connecting speakers with an audio interface. But as soon you have some movements on the cables you get noise and the break super easily. If you use SYMMETRICAL Cables it's really hard to notice any difference. If you use non Symmetrical Cables it makes a difference starting at around 6 meters cable length. You can say RIPOFF with symmetrical, yes! But you already started with a not so ultra cheap Thomann cable. It's already medium priced compared to amazon shit where you really hear a difference.

[@assosopoulos1490]

Hello Alexis , nice comment , i would like to have any recommendations on some cables brand (xlr for mic) with a good quality of build ,pls ☺️👍

[@surgicalaudio8829]

Thank you for doing this !! I'm tired fitting with people arguing about "quality cables" And there are a lot more expensive products telling BS (like master clocks)

[@Truth565]

Now don’t try and throw the baby out with the bath water here. The accurate clocking of two or more digital devices, is super important to getting the best conversion of audio. Why do you think that all the high end converter manufacturers go on about how good their clocks are? The difference between many budget or lesser performing interfaces is in many cases the clock.

[@surgicalaudio8829]

@@Truth565 I didn't say it's not important ! But between a good one and a 10.000$ one there is no sound difference, they just don't have a sound Ask Eric Valentines (here is the story: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zpuxf3mMiZxpfZI) Manufacturers just like for audio cables are selling you dream, by using always the same magic words (depth, warmth, width, height.. and so on) But that's not what a master clock do So that's the problem, they make you have BIG expectations, so your brain will tell you that is good, and you will hear things ! But trust me, do it in a blind test situation and things won't be as clear as you might think

[@Truth565]

@@surgicalaudio8829 I’ve already done the tests and I know what to listen out for and what not to. There are a lot of variables to take into account, when factoring in what makes what difference, but trust me (from first hand experience) a good clock, just like great analog circuitry and a good ADDA chip can make a meaningful difference to how a converter captures, or plays back a pice of audio, especially its collective impact when processing multiple channels of audio in or out of a computer.

[@surgicalaudio8829]

@@Truth565 I'm only talking about the clock not converters (because converters of course does have a sound) If you can hear something from one clock to the other without knowing which one is which.. I suggest you go meet Eric and take his test ;) You'll save some money for better use

[@denizmusic8804]

And there are diference from cheap xlr for microfone recording?

[@ailikejp]

What about those wireless XLR ones

[@mikelo303]

KLOTZ Cables - Germany made. Good price. Very good quality. Gets the job done.

[@tobiashodel172]

Teste doch Sonarworks in einem Akustisch Schlechten Raum. Danach könntest du nochmals das Audiosignal das von Sonarworks agepasst wurde mit z.B REW messen, um zu sehen wie stark eine DSP Software den Frequenzgang optimiert. (Mal abgesehen von den Nachhallzeiten). Würde mich sehr interessieren. Liebe grüsse

[@djdahous]

Testing radio signal interferences in cables could be interesting

[@craighillcomposer]

If they are all balanced cables then there shouldn't be a difference.

[@lw7279]

Video idea: test cheap vs expensive guitar strings. I always wondered if there’s a difference :)

[@wojtek987]

Yes I need to know

[@valentinlechene916]

There is a difference, i did it at home but anyway check fews video on internet :)

[@lw7279]

@@valentinlechene916 im not really interested to be honest, I just watch Jon’s videos for fun in my spare time

[@lw7279]

@@maximilianheinrich1049 rahhh

[@vortex2522]

Hey Jon, welchen Stuhl hast du auf dem du sitzt während du Musik machst ?:) Which chair do you use during musicproduction?:)

[@Jonsine]

Saiyl Herman miller

[@AyushDolasMusic]

Any updates about ashes? What about its drop....?

[@Jonsine]

the plug sound is in again just for you 😜

[@AyushDolasMusic]

@@Jonsine thanks a lot sir Thanks....it means a lot for me

[@orryfishburne5326]

U should redo this test with TS cables that have different ratings for impedance and different cable lengths. Im not trying to say there is or isnt a noticeable difference or not, but in the guitar community that is a huge thing that people swear by when it comes to tone. Especially with unbalanced cables like TS or RCA, u loose signal over long cable runs without using a buffer, and cables like Mogami have a specific impedance over a cheap cable like hosa or some brand on amazon. i would love to see this test redone with unbalanced cables and different impedance ratings to see if there is a difference

[@IamMagPie]

If a thick cable with a lot of copper would yield better sound quality, would not guitar manufacturers use such cable inside guitars from the pickups, through the pots and switches and to the output jack? Because they don't...

[@shadowminer9439]

Maybe in balanced cables there is no difference, but, at least in guitar cable there is a difference. When I bought a guitar it came with the classic tsnake cable and also bought the 15$ fender cable and there was a lot of difference. But spending 300$ on a cable... I don't think so

[@arkh1730]

You would have to replace the entire building wiring up to the street with thik copper cabling like those power cables to have a zero noise chain .to record with absolute zero noise I think I need a facility with cabling like thar

[@1kingstan795]

Cables matter try Ghost+ vs Mogami while recording or for studio monitoring...but blesseth are those who cant hear a difference your pockets are happier

[@ericclaptontribute-xaviersoran]

Hello my name is Xavier Soranells a guitar player and composer from Barcelona , Spain. I really liked your video! I think you revealed a truth that needed to be said. Now, I have a question that I would you to answer me if you don't mind. Does this explanation about cheap and crazy-expensive cables applies also to a intrument cable??? Thank you!

[@mikelo303]

300 bucks for 10m cable is relatively cheap in audiophile world. Even in pro studio world. I have seen cables for 100 bucks for 1m and even similarly priced power cables for same length. Cables can be very expensive.

[@rodericogarcia]

Hummmm not really convinced about this. Impedance, shielding... there are some numbers which I would swear are not the same in a cheap cable than in a medium or high end cable. I´ve tested hosa vs Monster 1000 cables... if anyone can´t tell a difference in the sound, there´s a bit of a problem with those ears... Said that, I don´t think it´s worth spending ridiculous amounts of money. I think you´ve got the right point: not the cheapest, but no need to go for the most expensive. Mogami, Sommer, and many other brands, use good quality cable and neutrik connectors, and prices are really affordable. But I wouldn´t connect my Tegeler Creme to my Antelope Discrete with a 3 euros cable. In the end, the overall sound will be as good as the weakest link in the sound chain. Good rant, anyway!!! Regards from Spain

[@123elvislives]

I love it l love it and l love it I thought this video was fantastic I have a friend who is into stereo equipment and he's speaker cables was over thousand dollars and to be honest with you I really can't hear any difference Thumbs up from Geelong Australia 👍🇦🇺👍

[@gtabro1337]

I can only see their application when it comes to festival sound systems since the sound is amplified dozens of times.

[@junejhunkie]

I mix festivals and concerts and mogami, canare with neutrik connnectors is fine. You actually have shorter runs now due to the advent progression of digital audio technology. The longest run of analog audio cable we run are the ones going to the main p.a.’s, matrix and fills.

[@PyroKalfje]

Only where more exspensive cables have reason. Is for ir noice. As example you wotk with broadcasting transmitters or riecevers you really want good islation. But mogammi is i think anough €3,85 each meter. Is okay priced for that type sitations

[@MojoRisingUK]

Please test DACs!! What is the difference? Is there a difference?

[@decentsamplercommunity]

I have also been using cordial for years🔥🔥🔥

[@marctomfohrde1311]

Hey Jon, I had the opportunity to test the Vovox cables in the SAE Cologne. The argumentation of the distributors was that due to the construction of the cable, they are less susceptible to electromagnetic leakage, which we could test impressively with an electric guitar and the overhead line of the railroad next to the building. What I would still be interested in is whether the cables can actually expand the stereo field or represent it more precisely. Can you possibly test this in the near future?

[@TheButtonSite]

yes he ist right, its only cooper with plastic around it, and i say because i have learnt electrician many years ago, there was a client he want some bose cables for his hifi system and we tested also the cheap cable, there was no difference beetwen the cheap and the expensive cable. No difference but what was he bought, yes your right the expensive cable from bose, all of these cable companys cooking with water, that you have to keep in mind.

[@SoundworkStudio88]

A test on cheap vs expensive audio interfaces would be very interesting. Which audio interface do you use?

[@osheroba]

i think if you have really good set of speakers at least buy a pair vovox for them, i did a test with cheep cables and mogami cables on analog equipment and was a big difference - there was less hes and ham and without inductance .so the signal was cleaner :)

[@JamesStonee]

Jon... you don't have to say "still upgrading the studio"... we already know lol we will just assume it's a constant from this moment on lol

[@JAMA1ful]

I needed this thanks my boy !

[@lovehjerte]

Only difference is build quality. Go with Neutrik plugs and a good flexible cable if are using your cables live. Other than that, no difference!! Speaker cables is another story, but lots of snake oil there as well.

[@Barfymane69]

i heard the difference on my phone? am i crazy? the click/shine on the kick drum

[@theclaverman]

No you are not cracy. It’s called the placebo effect. If to signals cancel each other out when you flip the phase/polarity on one of them, then the signal are exactly the same(no matter what we might think we are hearing)

[@Barfymane69]

@@theclaverman shhh

[@theclaverman]

@@Barfymane69 erghhh

[@Barfymane69]

@@theclaverman i definitely hear a difference player - speak for urself not for me

[@Mr.Gump5780]

The difference is in the durability, not the sound. Nearly 40 years experience speaking here.

[@MsCorbacho]

try a home setting with a decent hifi system, you will hear more of a difference there, from all brands i tryed i stick with duelund, anticable, and vovox as best bang for the buck, but,....if you still hear no difference who am i to say otherwise, to each his own! the last i am trying to begin here is a cable discussion, god knows there are already to may of those :)

[@MsCorbacho]

to many .....

[@riktascale4]

Thank you very much for this. It will be the very very very last thing on my upgrade list if at all. I intend to get my money's worth on ALL of my current cables.

[@hudo]

I don't have studio, i just have normal stereo system. Changing interconnect or speaker cable can make a difference, in my experience (>15y of playing with hifi components). Price doesn't matter that much, i didn't even tried fancy expensive cables, but just switching between different 50-200$ cables the difference can sometimes be immediately obvious, with some cables i can't hear the difference, and most often i don't hear it immediately, then after 2 weeks i return the old cable and notice the change. There's something very wrong in this guys system:)

[@theclaverman]

I’m sorry… but the only true way to test one signal cable vs another is to do a null test (by either sending the exatly the same signal into both cables at the same time, and the flipping the phase on one of them. Or…you can re-record a song through one cable at the time and then time align them and flip the phase). I’m not saying that there could not be any difference between cables, I’m just saying that listen to music on a HiFi system on one cable, then disconnecting it to connect another cable (possibly more expensive) and listen again really doesn’t tell you anything (at least not if you don’t have chance to A/B them very quickly).

[@hudo]

@@theclaverman you obviously don't have any experience with cables.

[@theclaverman]

@@hudo Yes I have. Like….alot

[@brentonlalu2838]

I love this video, Jon!!!! You are spot on

[@cristianstanciu6872]

I use 10k $ platinum cables with 💎. I even wear 0.5m ones as neckles... #toughlife

[@andreumateulamas]

I would like a blind test of sounds from a Vst synth and an analog... ..Would love to see if experts by hearing a sound in a song can say: "this is vst"or "this is analog synth". I am afraid that the fact that analog synth sounds better is a myth.

[@Jonsine]

Yes the current generation of plugins is amazing.

[@theclaverman]

Thats absolutely true.

[@justice6480]

Totally agree with you ... copper is copper and it’s all a scam You get better lasting connections and not much else

[@MarcoPolux]

This episode was very interesting to me 👍 👍 Jon, please, review the Behringer X-Touch mini. . . how you use it. . . .

[@BRADRANCH]

Thank you for this. Answered my question. :)

[@btxdk220]

!CAUTION! man! don't tell the people to take the volume all the way up without showing a prompt message to lower the volume once the test is over.

[@torbenkristiansen7732]

A cheap cable transfer a music just as well as an expensive one , you record no difference therefore you hear no difference You should listen to the cables by changing them in the current music system you are listening to, then you will probably hear a difference This is a more than 30 year old mystery nobody knows what happens but something happens when the cable is physically inserted into a music system you are listening to You have to record what comes out of your speakers and unfortunately you can't do that in a decent quality, but possibly you can if the sound difference is big enough on the cables. I have many times been involved in selecting cables by blind testing and it never fails the expensive cables are best the ones with the purest and best marterials and assembly quality, This means that if you upgrade your cables your customers won't hear the difference but you might hear the difference in your studio.

[@Tstdycgyr]

He gets a box of guitar cables then starts going on about synth sounds out of a machine , I didn’t get anything from this

[@pearldiverrecords]

I'm afraid I have to counter that. What you used the cable for is not the deciding factor. You should record voices or a guitar once, then you can hear the differences, but not with a techno beat. There are no dynamics at all in the drumbeat. This is very unprofessional and shows impressively what nonsense is being told. I was also very skeptical have compared it and was surprised how different cables can sound.

[@FLH3official]

The audiophiles who can make the difference between a standard not too bad cable and a "UltraMonsterWire-handmade-with-mono-critsaline-polarized-copper-from-Venus-rolled-on-a-maiden-tighs" are often bats with imagination. The sames who plug super silver AC cable in the AC outlet of their house, which is unfortunately connected to the network by standard electric wires... When you spend a big amount of money you're obliged to hear the difference 😁

[@theclaverman]

Amen!

[@flm5910]

Hi, super content!!! :) thank you! Should be very intresting a comparison between usp on line double conversion, and normal power... If should improove noise performance on machines and avoid freq disturbes on hardware😊 sorry for my english

[@djvidual8288]

I really enjoy these experiments.

[@MrHunte87]

There was a show in the UK called the Gadget Show and a few years ago did the same test on British TV and their conclusion was exactly the same as yours. Its an absolute rip-off.

[@iam-music]

Im nof into voodoo either... As mentioned below...WHAT ARE YOU DOING USING 10m CABLES? You know you cant cheat physics right and capacitance per m etc. I did many months of studying, research etc. with many different cables and also as mentioned below the cumulative affect is astounding. Ok I could easily blind test the cables once my ears knew and its basically front to back that changes most...a test wave isnt going to do it...these were my painful findings Anything and the front end ie mic/inst is greatly improved 1. Vovox. The creates the best spectrum for voice/strings etc those representing human vocal range and tends to sweeten even harsh mics. eg I ran an nt1a into vovox (4m) into a sebatron pre (which has a 600 ohm loading) and turns it into silk; thats the combo of loading/cable/tube HOWEVER 2. For instruments, low mid, bass etc, Analysis Plus Pro Oval is the bomb...its even louder in signal. This includes patch cables. I just finished a quartet recording and I run i back through tube eq...I did a quick test on cheap patch cords...wow what a diff I can blind test pick every time...how is that if its bs? Im happy to put up the quartet...but you need to listen at 96/24 bit and its easy to hear...you def arent going to hear it easily on yt My challenge is grab a 1m cheap cable and a 10m cheap cable...you still dont hear anything right. On top of that...impedance plays a huge role...what are your mic imps? Try using a 150 pf/m vs 80 on a guitar...it is HUGe in response and sound especially on low pick loadings like 5-7k. Im not kidding...I spent prob 2 weeks spread out of a number of months and if you want a cheap upgrade...but its something you only become passionate when you have experienced for yourself. Brauner wouldnt spend the bucks on 5 way for nothing :-) BUT I will say Learn each piece of gear...very very well before moving on and stop buying plugins you dont need ;-)

[@zazoomatt]

I could NOT TELL Either Jon. Thanks for doing this. Putting this to rest.

[@leonardocaminati6432]

Why anyone here is telling this guy that the real difference cables make are on microphone connections, where the signal level at the mic out is very very low and a super well-done cable will keep it intact where a cheap one will lose the high freq information and sound much duller and lifeless in comparison. I mean, it makes really no sense to compare these cables on line level signals. You have to compare them on mic-level signals in order to hear the difference, and that makes a lot of difference. Saying there is no practical difference and "it's a total rip off" it makes you literally sound like a total ignorant.

[@orondeshaw]

I think a daw comparison would be good

[@jangrimmmastering]

Wenn du löten kannst, nimm die dicken analogen sommer cable für video. Widerstand passt, sau geil geschirmt und viel günstiger. Musst halt löten.

[@Heartbeatzofficial]

For unbalanced instrument cables, there's actually a quality difference. I got an expensive Mogami cable for recording bass (mainly di) and guitar and there is noticeably more high-end and less noise. Also, it has a silent unplug mechanism which comes in handy. But for balanced xlr cables... like you said, no difference. I'll still make sure the build quality is solid but otherwise...

[@Dandimite47]

Hättest wohl besser erstmal jegliches beteiligte Gerät mit Vovox Stromkabeln á 389,-€ anschlissen sollen. Denn die letzten 1.8m zum Gerät sind entscheidend :-) Hoffe auf einen baldigen Nachtest!

[@skeennah1927]

Very short cables are something else, that's another topic tho.....................