Jordan Peterson - Desire: Biology & Culture - Mind Matters 3

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Abstract:
Human beings are not mere cognitive or representational machines, matching the reality of ongoing perceptions against the cold, calculated expectations of our actions. Instead, we interact with the world as if it matters, as it does, since we are alive, and wish to stay that way. Thus, the matter of the world is something that is meaningful, and that meaning is real, rather than something added, subjectively, to an essentially meaningless but in some manner more real and more fundamental substrate. Our perceptions themselves, our visions of reality, are deeply and necessarily informed by desire.
We build the world of desire from the bottom up; our embodied structures shape our basic motivations, which we develop and render more sophisticated through our capacity for social interaction and cognitive abstraction. At the most primordial levels, we share motivational structure and function with other animals, far down the evolutionary chain of being. At the upper levels, we arrange and organize our individual motivations into complex social games; above that, we play games with the rules of the games themselves, allowing the shared social structures that organize our motivations so that we remain predictable to ourselves and each other to change and adapt to new circumstances.
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[@americanmambi]

1 JP lecture a day keeps the doctor away!!! The world just makes sense with this guy around

[@MrDeathyness]

D27Rugen he doesn’t just tell you, he tells you how to go find it your self

[@andykelly7367]

“Amen” to that matey! If I can still use a Christian word that is? 😂 Andy Kelly Uk 🇬🇧

[@ylmonkeyU2]

Love this comment.

[@Aaronisification]

Jordan is a Treasure. A sage of Western philosophy. You listen to him when you’re depressed; when your happy; when you’re curious. He gets into your mental framework and clears out the cobwebs and the dust and restructures the way you view the world. And you’re a better person for it.

[@tamih532]

Very nicely put

[@jakepreston8622]

Jordan Peterson is one of a few select speakers who I listen to whenever I crave a voice of reason in my life. I've listened to many lectures, by him and by others, and this one is absolutely the best, absolutely brilliant. I've listened to it several times and get something new out of it each time.

[@nicoepsilon0]

I just learned about him today. I started listening to him this morning, now I realize it's already 10pm

[@athenamo5995]

i just did the same thing. haha

[@fluxpistol3608]

Dito! Legit listen to one of his lectures a day and have been for the last month. Says everything i need to hear! In the way i need to hear it tho which is most important

[@JohnSmith-ms4xd]

who are the others?

[@grantfrith9589]

An old message on an old video but I discovered his work more recently. Loving the way this guy articulates things I know to be true but haven't until now had the ability to express. It's simply wonderful. PS: I hope he springs back after his recent brush with death.

[@follow_fraser3081]

If J. B Peterson was the prime minister of Canada, I think it would be a better country. I know it my seem like a silly comment but he is very wise. In today's world, we lack wisdom on a scale that it makes me ill to think of it's consequence.

[@uklk]

I would love him to be the prime minister of CANADA.

[@tjjones-xj7kq]

If he was and the true puppet masters let him have the majority of power I probably would pop on over from the USA. 🤣 We have our own puppet masters with a mentally diminished puppet. We could also use JP if they wouldn't try to control him. Someone like JP is better in a puppet master position though. I think he would be great for formulating strategies but letting someone a bit on the narcissist side to be the voice piece. Let them answer the idiot media and deal with the threats from other country leaders. Mean while JP would lay out the plan and strategy without needing to fly everywhere and worry about the stress of always being in front of a camera with people talking sh!t. Ehhhh!?!?😉😅

[@LunaLu-00]

"never do things in a way that stops you from figuring out how to do more things"

[@donfox1036]

Luna L, that depends on context. . One should try not to do bad things. In other words value judgement must precede action, and following action there needs to be an evaluation of one’s action to see if the results were good.

[@donfox1036]

The dominance thing must be evaluated too, otherwise you could marry a wife beater.

[@donfox1036]

It is a complicated business.

[@donfox1036]

Sitting on the fence can expand your field of view.

[@timlewis7218]

Sometimes waiting is doing something

[@timlewis7218]

He's breaking down occult secrets. HERO.

[@LiamPorterFilms]

Is JP the most interesting man alive?

[@Philc2]

+Retinend One of them, I think. The most interesting subjects to me, and i like the range of ways he comes at them :)

[@ssevkin]

+Retinend Yes.

[@GingerDrums]

+Retinend Yep, he has grasped a great set of presumptions about the world and they keep on churning out these great models that make sense to us. Pretty phenomenal.

[@RareTechniques]

Also very well spoken and passionate about his career. Respectable man!

[@Khalikhalzit]

'I don't always discuss psychonormative ideation in a Jungian archetypal context - but when I do, it's with Dr. Peterson.'

[@alexanderfirmin9792]

Even with a cold, JP seems to have cracked the meaning of life.

[@tjjones-xj7kq]

That last part about everything having a consequence is so dang thought provoking! I can see many examples in my life.

[@georger6624]

It's so true we do lack wisdom and Jordan Peterson has a lot of wisdom

[@theQuestion626]

Lacking of wisdom is a truism. A cliché. Peterson pointing this out is not him being wise. It’s like the philosophical equivalent of Peterson telling you that water is wet.

[@2168017]

his best lecture that I have seen and I have seen quite a lot of his

[@j.h252]

Jordan, some stories you tell here, I've heard few times, but still it is never boring, cause of your passion, it seems it is always the first tine. You are really a strong example how to be, not left, not right, you are where reason is, in the center where the truth picks the best from both sides. No talking head, a birther of the now, the now, the now. It's impressing watching and hearing you evolve, from second to second, a true seeker, a true speeker, a true finder and expresser. Not more to say, just, if there is a higher source heshe must be proud of you Jordan!

[@Jz-en9pi]

Really nice comment! I agree!

[@menzistogumede5191]

Great comment.

[@RareTechniques]

Jesus.. this should be mandatory included in all curriculums worldwide! So profound and deep.

[@raymac6262]

This was illuminating. JP articulates his ideas very well here.

[@MrWorld-hc5rs]

*aaand illuminati confirmed??*

[@millacolic]

Sorry. This was an endless rattle. What i is illuminating in this video.

[@theQuestion626]

@@millacolic that’s what I was thinking as well. He didn’t make any type of logical arguments that I could see. They seem to be inconsistent, vague, and he veers off into tangents frequently. It’s quite obvious to me that he doesn’t really know what he’s talking about. It’s almost as if I’m watching an articulate version of stream of consciousness talk.

[@tjjones-xj7kq]

Thanks Mind Matters for posting this! Love him or hate him what he says makes a lot of sense. I like the long form posts for listening while driving. Helps keep me awake and learning.

[@peterdegrandis4630]

This is probably THE Most well crafted lecture I’ve ever had the pleasure to ENOY. informative, educational, engaging , captivating, and entertaining! Yes, entertainment; JP is an exquisite comedy writer with the good sense and beauty of timing. This is no small feat, given the complexity, dark nature difficulties of psychological conditions of humanity.

[@johnglenn2539]

JP looks do much better today than back at this video. Even with his current mental health recovery. Best of health to the man 👍🙏

[@artoffugue333]

A moral leader of our time... as if there is really any competition, even with the Pope. In any case, extraordinary timing.

[@jimringer5540]

AMAZING! Very very very very very very good. Takes an incredible amount of guts to explain this to college age kids.

[@christophersurnname9967]

Damn this guy boosted in the looked department. Glow up to the max

[@AmyIsFkinGay]

"If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day. If you give a man a rat you satisfy his rat desire" truly thought provoking... thank you mr peterson

[@grossersalat578]

One of your most fun to watch episodes. Thank you for distributing your thoughts!

[@susannec659]

Amazing I listen to this over and over again.

[@andrewmckeown6786]

April 15th, 2019 here. Very interesting, having heard The Good Doctor speak about times in his life when he was battling illness or concerned about family members with illness, to observe how tired he looks in this clip....

[@stepanyanmariam]

the last part is heartbreakingly inspiring

[@bradgknoll6456]

Wonderful lecture from one of the brightest minds.

[@brooklynrobotworks9866]

Another fascinating lecture by JBP. Thank you.

[@georger6624]

Absolutely incredible Jordan Peterson I can listen to him every day for hours

[@mihamorozan352]

mind blowing!

[@santigarciarosa]

God bless Jordan.

[@geoffreylynnegambrelljr.4132]

By my estimation that is exactly correct. Thanks for all of your hard work on this. We are all a part of making this World the Best we can Invision, and I'm personally exstatic about being born in this Time to Experience this Phenomenon. :) Awesomeeee!!!!

[@yashukumar4309]

He is the most effective communicator between Our collective unconscious wisdom and conscious inquisitiveness.

[@edwardmwanza5483]

Sir Jordon Peterson!!

[@andykelly7367]

Well I am so enthused by this “clearly” life experienced professor and his lectures on how to live a meaningful life that I, at 56 years of age, am getting the moral education of what I always “knew” within to be truth; and how to make the right decision and directions; albeit at the later years of my life. Nevertheless, that Professor Peterson endures to educate the world of the young, is a great and wonderful service to *mankind... {*I’ll leave out the Canadian Prime Sinister’s PC Bullshit for the weaker members of society to feast upon!} Well done Professor JB Peterson! I wish I had a better education than I did...However, it’s never too late to learn! 😊 Andy Kelly 🇬🇧 Godbless...if I can still say that? 😂

[@amymartin6554]

Andy...you caught my attention. Perhaps it was your well articulated banter, or maybe it was because we are the same age, or maybe I've been single too long & bored. Too bad Jordan has a cold, because his swallowing is, for whatever reason, so irritating to me! I was scrolling the comments, mainly to see if anyone else felt that way. I feel disappointeded in myself for not having that perfect empathy that I normally posses. I mean, at one point I was like, "damnit Jordan, knock it off with that swallowing shit!" Kinda harsh, right? Then I wondered why the hell it made me angry in the first place. Did it annoy other people too? Better check the comments.... where I read your comment....had to comment on your comment. With all this internal dialogue going on, contemplating reasons for my lack of empathy for Mr. Peterson's level of thirst and hard swallowing, how it almost made me angry then to sit & wonder why that was, I came to the final conclusion that, all things considered, what I was really doing was avoiding cleaning my house! Now that I've I've just killed 2 birds with one stone, I can go about my day justified in the fact that I did NOT waste time on the internet, I noticed something about myself, and also placed myself in your life for a moment. Ofcourse, that's only true if you actually read this....such babbling! Lol!

[@flagtwister6039]

This is the most intellectual breakdown of CharDeeMacDennis I've ever seen.

[@thejtotti29]

I really like these lectures from before he made it big. He’s like, more righteous and less smug and much more willing to joke around. Anymore he has become too much of a hardo in my eyes and alienated the people who need to hear him most because of it

[@jasonmccombs8123]

Jake Volanski he’s talking to students here.they aren’t attacking him. He can joke more.

[@marianserra8371]

08/02/20 well done and timely lecture. Thank you

[@VHflyboy]

1:01:06 I think this is very true about sociopaths. They think they are so smart and pulling the wool over their victims eyes, but in reality they are too stupid to realize the causal sequence that leads to their downfalls.

[@davidsirmons]

Some tend to be very adept at hiding their actions and intentions. Sometimes for years in order to achieve their aim. Part of anyone's efforts when doing self-shadow recognition and self-study, would be to observe their shadow enough to identify sociopaths quickly and efficiently.

[@theodoreturner5567]

10:55 This diagram reminds me of C. S. Lewis' idea of the relationship between the indicative and the imperative.

[@JohnDeacon-iam]

Great detail on the hypothalamus 36:30

[@shiznit1721]

55:37 - 56:56 This video just explained to me why I feel about psychology the way I do. Why i'm always drawn toward it and amazed by it. . .What a complete mindfuck.

[@michaelcoonce6412]

Purist totally- it's something I've glimpsed over and over.

[@aqynbc]

still wonder how this kind of thinking and teaching are not part of any self-respected schools on this planet....

[@davidsirmons]

??? When did he stop this comedic bent??? IT'S FANTASTIC!!! :D

[@TheSymphonyOfScience]

14:04 Peterson: ''Who would have guessed that-not the Romanians'' -being romanian myself, I caught myself thinking:'' motherf.....-but I got over it :DLOL

[@mycattitude]

It was easy to get over, because of the way he salvaged it after. A bit of a joke, but followed up, by it could just as easily been us that discovered it last.

[@A_Box]

I hope not to importune you but I find myself unable to understand the joke. Could you tell me what is this thing about the "Romanians"? I am aware this could be some sort of stereotype but I just don't have a clue about it.

[@mycattitude]

EDY el O It's hard to explain the joke, because it was rather dry, but I'll try. Peterson was explaining how children need to be touched in early stages of development, or they will literally die. Then he said, ''Who would have guessed that-not the Romanians''. It was just a flippant comment about a serious matter, because people find relief in dark humour. Romanians found themselves in a really bad time and lots of children went to orphanages that were underfunded and understaffed. Lots of kids died even though their most basic of necessities were attended to, because of the understaffing. That's my basic understanding.

[@A_Box]

Well I infer what you typed from what he said but Romanians seem to be a a group of people existing nowadays, from Romania. Are they known for their cold personality or something?

[@mycattitude]

EDY el O Not that I've ever heard. I don't think it has to do w/ a stereotype at all. It just got a lot of public attention, and of course people love to judge when they've never had to be in a similar situation. It reminds me of all the Mother Theresa haters after Hitchen's grotesque comments about her Sisters of Mercy centers that help the dying in Calcutta, but weren't equipped as hospitals to give medicine and such.

[@potlakontabe4589]

Wow

[@Cinderella227]

I’m too competitive especially when it comes to air hockey. Monopoly is fun but not as much as air hockey. I’m the family air hockey and scrabble champion. Hahaha 🤣 Great lecture. Thank you ✝️❤️

[@chrisbirdsall6055]

Your kids are so lucky to have you as a father. Most people are insane.

[@alexnezhynsky9707]

When was this recorded again?

[@oleinfidel]

If your the person who always loses, you might want to question why the guy who always wins, invites you to play...

[@suigeneris2843]

Mind blowing 🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@artoffugue333]

He looks fatigued here... yet he managed to pull off a hilarious anecdote of truth at the very beginning.

[@ehtisham.1878]

Great thumbnail

[@briancooperman7131]

26:17

[@kantraxoikol6914]

incredibly complex explanations which he TRIED to convey in a layman manner, and somewhat succeeded, but i admit he lost me so many times i had to play catch up every 2 sentences :)

[@mistakenmillenial6834]

You can see the moment he realises something about what he is saying. 43:58

[@chriss729]

Regarding games and competition: If you are winning so badly people don't want to play with you, the correct answer is not to be nice and be invited to more games, but to find BETTER COMPETITION.

[@americanmambi]

Yes and no? Obviously either answer depends on the context??

[@orloification]

hence the requirement for the rules to have a degree of flexibility and ability to be updated.. thus the "game" evolves to accommodate more and more sophisticated versions of the game and everyone gets better over time. its basically what evolution is.. i think

[@tiagovasc]

40:00

[@johnvidovich7010]

He says he needs to look into the crucifixion and the passion for a few more years Before he can give clear thoughts on the matter. He has arrived there already through his actions before he can articulate the complexity of the Jesus story. This man loves humanity. That is why his energy and stamina are boundless. To be a Christian means not to put Jesus on a pedestal, but to conduct yourself as closely to him as you can. Jordan lives this Christ-like mandate in real time daily. And thank you KZbin for being the new world changing Gutenberg Press. At my fingertips are countless wisdom traditions and modern breakthroughs.

[@thevirtuoso760]

Wow! I can see just how much healthier Jordan is as of now, insane. He can breathe better and is slimmer. I love him

[@geriburrito]

I liked the talk but I find it a bit weird that it was filmed in a bunker.

[@theteriorado5202]

47:30

[@theteriorado5202]

55:30

[@theteriorado5202]

43:41

[@apricotcomputers3943]

❤❤❤🇺🇸

[@Incandescence555]

STATE OF BEING AND LONGING(DESIRE) 1. blood sugar 2. water 3. carnality/reproductive drive 4. play 5. status 6. friends 7. meaning 8. material wealth 9. spirituality/existential grounding PLAY THE GAME PROPERLY - CONQUEST IS NOT THE OBJECTIVE - BECAUSE IT LEADS TO ALIENATION AND POWER IMBALANCE WHICH HIGHLIGHTS LACK OF RECIPROCITY - You want to be invited to play the largest number of games - Never win a game in such a way that makes you a loser at THE GAME of games (the meta game of life) WHAT SHOULD YOU NOT EXPLORE? ANSWER - the things you've explored before TRANSFORMING THE GAME MASTERING THE DOMINANCE HIERARCHY - WOMEN CHOOSE THE GUY THAT PLAYS THE META GAME BEST - Adapt or die - both psychologically and physically (+ genetically and memetically etc) CONFRONT THE UNKNOWN APPLY FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN CONSISTENTLY AND REPEATEDLY INVENTING NEW RULES MEANS OVERCOMING STAGNATION AND DEATH - IT'S NECESSARY + KEEPS THE DRAGON OF CHAOS AT BAY - BECAUSE ENTROPY CONSTANTLY INCREASING SO YOU NEED TO BUFFER THIS IN A VARIETY OF WAYS "THE EXPLORATORY HERO RULES OVER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN" - SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS! SITTING ON THE FENCE = DEATH NO ONE EVER GETS AWAY WITH ANYTHING DON'T EVER MISTAKE YOUR STAGNATION/LAZINESS/FEAR FOR LOYALTY TO YOUR SELF OR LOYALTY TO EXISTENTIAL/PSYCHOLOGICAL FAMILIARITY - move, adapt, learn, fight, cultivate or die

[@cheesycheese7100]

TYPE IN CAPS LOCK TO WIN THE GAME

[@squakke]

How do you get past the hell you create by your own bad decisions? Do you just have to ride it out? Can you repent or make up for it to reduce the feeling of hell?

[@DayBergs]

I think helping or doing things for others might help, the more you would do it the more it would help. It also pulls your head out of your own ass a bit, when you start attending to other people's problems.

[@NdxtremePro]

Tell the truth to yourself. Take the responsibility for your actions. This is the start to unraveling the hell you are in. Then make a plan for what heaven looks like for you, and think about the steps you need to take to get there. It will get worse before it gets better. Period. The people you surround yourself with now may not appreciate you leaving them behind. You may have to serve time before you can get your life on track. But you have to "repent", which means to change your mind, which means to always tell yourself the truth, to wash away the lies you have told yourself.

[@tamih532]

Atonement....repent and do whatever you still can to set things straight. It's never too late to turn back and change for the better

[@robertimmanuel577]

16:40 checkmate.

[@robertimmanuel577]

41:33

[@robertimmanuel577]

"in the absence of certainty, explore."

[@robertimmanuel577]

21:30

[@paulnevard9047]

Christ is the alpha omega....praise be!

[@jasonmccombs8123]

Paul Nevard he is the alpha and omega. The beginning and the end.

[@RickDelmonico]

The fish quote is not Jesus, it is Lao Tzu.

[@crislima7452]

I keep cutting people off my relationships... i cant Stand lies. Hard to play GOG if the players are not honest!

[@wighto73]

you can take the Pete from the Canuck but you can't take the Pete from the Canuck

[@karmacounselor]

Toronto MInd Matters, do you have to have the painting of the nudes, I mean what is the point...

[@r.k.6483]

completely off topic but why does he look a bit like the kid from ET but older and more prominent eyebrows

[@kantraxoikol6914]

damn he can be really caustic when he wants to be "inflict themselves on other people" ! omg roflmao

[@wighto73]

Ice hockey makes Jordan seem almost human

[@maatonne]

"Boyfriend trainer" because God forbid you have a game called girlfriend trainer.

[@animallover4955]

I can’t stand & refuse to play monopoly. Seriously, I think I don’t have a hypothalamus.

[@zakharshamilyan7947]

I have found myself changing rules to games to conform to my advantage and the advantage of my “ teammates “. But when you do that aren’t you doing the same thing that we claim the sjws do; which is really straddling the line between reality and reason and one can find himself breaking all those rules.

[@Hbmd3E]

Fill in the blanks: person laughing after peterson statement at 1:01:25 is : ___

[@keegankennedy1293]

Very interesting man. Surprised he hasn't thought of ways, techniques, and mental frameworks to overcome passing judgments, and harsh ones, onto others though.

[@yevgenitiger]

Could you please give a quote with one harsh judgement that Jordan Peterson has passed onto others?

[@keegankennedy1293]

Listen to the first not even 6 minutes of this video! He does not personally know the father of his son's teammate yet makes sweeping judgments about his personal life and a swing at his failed marriage. If you also listen to Sam Harris's 2nd Podcast with Peterson, he mentions the same experience.

[@yevgenitiger]

Thank you, I am going to check this part out and think through it.

[@NdxtremePro]

Judgement or discernment? He is describing the behavior he is speaking against, and using this person as an anecdote. You might note he says it not disparagingly, but with disgust. The guys actions are harming his son in Peterson's opinion, and as a clinical psychologist, he has probably seen enough of it to make that a discerning opinion.

[@donfox1036]

I’m happy most of us don’t share the experience of being placed in boiling water, which many lobsters have.

[@theQuestion626]

It’s remarkable to me that this guy was given a professorship. But not surprising that the university didn’t want him and that Professor Bernard Schiff had to actually fight for him to get his position. What’s more is good old Bernard was right about Peterson’s lecturing style. It’s more like preaching instead of actually teaching. That’s all he’s doing here. He’s rambling. He’s not a biologist and he’s not an anthropologist and he’s not a very good psychologist either his reliance upon Carl Jung is childish to the point of being pathetic. And it’s interesting that he doesn’t seem to pop out some citations to demonstrate where he gets his information. But then again this is his lecture and it goes the way he wants I just… Find it rather strange that he seems to be… Making things up as he goes along and giving us basically his opinion. I would’ve liked to of taken one of his classes at the University of Toronto. I would’ve hammered him by asking for citations and referencing points for evidence. I’ve had some bad professors in the past, but this guy? He’s basically a well-dressed homeless man shouting at pigeons in the Park. If I recall correctly he was also an alcoholic for quite a long time. Not surprising because he fits the symptoms of being a dry drunk. Then of course there was benzodiazepine addiction which I found rather fascinating because… He being a clinician, you would think he would know how dangerous benzodiazepines can be. Isn’t he an expert? He constantly seems to remind the world that he is. That somehow… The danger of his benzodiazepine use flew over his head. And then of course there was a treatment in Russia. As a clinician, if I recall correctly, his specialty was addiction. Mini addiction experts would say that what he did was not only dangerous but also unethical. Is it possible that he didn’t want to face that he was a man with a weakness? His smug arrogance it’s quite obvious, even before he became known for lying about Bill C 16. That’s what I think is so strange about this man… Why lie about a law? And the years that I’ve been watching Jordan Peterson I’ve come to believe that he is highly mentally unwell. He’s a little more stable in this lecture but in other lectures I’ve seen and other interviews and appearances on television… He looks unbalanced. He can be an interesting man that makes some pretty good observations. But other than that? He would’ve been better off being a literature critic instead of masquerading as a psychologist. The very fact that this man, this man who seems mentally unwell and seems to live in his own head, was a therapist for far too long is disturbing to me. Jordan Peterson who seems to have an overly inflated opinion of himself, while also believing in some really fantastical things doesn’t strike me as someone that is capable of providing psychological care to the distressed. As of anything? He’s the one who needs not only psychological care but I think he needs to be committed.

[@cheesycheese7100]

you mad bro?😂

[@theQuestion626]

@@cheesycheese7100 no not at all actually good because I feel bad for you and those who follow Jordan Peterson. He’s a very sick man. He’s not that bright. He’s basically the equivalent of Jim Jones just a more articulate version. Instead of making his followers and just cyanide laced Kool-Aid… He’s just going to tether you to him and drag him down into his madness. The funniest part I should say the most tragic part… Is all those whom say that they are better because of Peterson? They seem to… Still have the same problems with the failures of capitalism, their fear of women their lack of getting laid, or their lack of fulfillment with daily life. The reason I find it so strange is because… shouldn’t wisdom lead you to improvement instead of limping along…?

[@theQuestion626]

@@cheesycheese7100 I’m not surprised that someone who says “you mad bro?“ And then falls it up with an emoji would be a Peterson fan. Goes to show just that he appeals to a low denominator.

[@cheesycheese7100]

@@theQuestion626 you're still so mad

[@theQuestion626]

@@cheesycheese7100 Oh I’m definitely mad. I would love to have a professorship where I can achieve tenure by just sitting around and bullshitting students all day and then patting myself on the back by the job that I didn’t earn on my own merits. That guy is live in the fucking life! Well… Maybe not so much anymore. After that medically induced coma his mine seems to be melting like a candle.

[@joesphharbor4528]

Monopoly, no. Risk, now theres been tables overturned and threats of swift and severe butt whippings lol.

[@LunaLu-00]

"not enough sexual activity" lol

[@Pompeii2020]

43:40 "as Christ said"...not true. The fictitious character (Jesus) is never said to have said that.

[@micasilver210]

Jesus did not say that, indeed! However, He is not fictitious. That Christ lived and was crucified is a historical fact. So is that He was announced through the Jewish prophets in the OT ( 333 references to Christ)-beginning with the promise to Adam and Eve in Genesis 3,15; (one other, very obvious one Isiah 53,... 700 years before his coming.) The resurrection is the best witnessed and recorded event in antiquity. Christ= the atonement for the world, the antidote to death- the second death ( =eternal damnation for our sin-nature and its fruits, individually)- for which the first ( bodily ) death is only a symbol in the world. You, I and Mr. Peterson as well, will face the holy economy of God the Father, in which no soul can live without the blood of Christ covering our sins. Psychology & all the wisdom of the world will not save you. Hebr. 4, 13 (NKJV) And there is no creature hidden from his sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. The preceeding vers tell that the word of God is living,....living & piercing,... into the spiritually dead soul, ...such as was mine. The verses after tell of the power and mercy of Christ, His willingness to cleanse us from all iniquity ( Hebr. 4, 14-15), all who come to Him. May you seek Christ and He will find you.

[@vincentlaw1415]

This looks like it has been recorded in someones garage

[@ChernobylPizza]

Really liked this lecture up until about the last 6 minutes. You really lost me at the end. And what's with the anti-Fascism, pro-theist comments?

[@jackcai2474]

Kingdom of heaven is the name of the ideal goal we should be aiming for in all of our choices. it is a old and well known name which is why he chose it. It is the carrot that entices our moral donkey to heads towards those choices. Fascism is compared to hell. It was painted to represent the stick of punishment to dissuade our choices towards that direction.

[@tylerfarmer1592]

I think that comment was probably referencing his research, an area he is pretty knowledgeable in. The bridging of the two ideas most likely came naturally, but for people on the outside I think it required another 5-10 minutes of explaining that relationship, rather than elaborating on what specific fascist regime he was talking about.

[@nancymohass4891]

"They (weman) like dominant guys" !!!!!for your info. Nether I or my friends do not like being dominated by , no mater who!!!! What scientific source you have for such falls believe ???!!!

[@charlesrump5771]

Nancy Mohass He's talking about the natural sexual instinctial desire alot of women generally have to be dominated. As members of the generally physically weaker sex women have been dominated by the stonger sex (men) for centuries, thereby creating a circuit in the brain of women for such things.

[@piushalg8175]

Clearly most women choose dominant men, which means they like strong men who are more likely able to garantee their and theirs offspring wellbeing.

[@veralanger8947]

He talks of a "dominant men" in terms of position, status, not of a man who dominates a woman. Can"t you really tell the difference?

[@grantfrith9589]

Maybe. But seeing how successful fifty shades was I reckon there's a bit of denial going on or maybe you're few and far between. I can tell you from my perspective that particular story/movie has not inspired me in the slightest. I doubt very much if any guys I know could even sit through that movie. My wife's libido however spiked enormously while that was popular... If you'll remember it was quite the phenomenon. I think there's a big gap between our understanding of our subconscious and conscious selves.

[@TheOlzee]

People are blown away by this guy but I just can't see what the big deal is at all.

[@ThyReverend]

I think there are many people out there attempting to reconcile spiritual/religious ideas with evolutionary ideas. This man seems to articulate the cohesion on those ideas very well. Hes definitely changed my mind about mythology and religion

[@TheOlzee]

Stephen Johnson I don't think it can be reconciled. I'm see if people seek that highly they will be glad to have found someone who has a cool theory but it holds no water, zero proof and pretty much disqualifies you as a Christian if you hold such views about it. The ego will surely argue this point though because dear me it wants to hold on to religion so badly.

[@ThyReverend]

Well it disqualifies you as a fundamentalist Christian for sure and any one whos mildly intelligent knows that taking the bible as literal history is basically philosophical suicide. I believe his theory holds water. R eligious inclination is an evolutionary adaptation to existing in a patriarchal hierarchy. Its a deep rooted strategy to help societies tend toward optimal existence (heaven) instead of degenerating to a painful existence (hell). Mythology is the outward expression of this deep rooted adaptation to reality. Snakes, dragons, kings, heros, virgins, etc. all symbolize archetypical aspects of human existence and help us adapt to the greater existence beyond just getting food, safety, sex, etc. Understanding and articulating mythology/religion from a Darwinian prospective is why Dr. Peterson is popular. Indeed i believe his theories hold water. Try living in "sin" for a few years or decades and see where that gets you. You'll inhabit a state of mind best described as hell. Science doesn't necessarily have a theory for how certain ways of acting in the world lead to worse or better existences, but humanity has been working on that since the beginning, and religious ideas are the consiquence.

[@TheOlzee]

Stephen Johnson I agree with everything you wrote. When I say it holds no water I mean to hold such views disqualifies you as a Christian be sues that is not what Christianity tells you, it's meant to be literal. You can spin it however you want but petersons views are not shared by Christianity. It all seems really silly to me. People don't need to follow stories about dragons, gods, snakes, etc to learn how to behave. Plus you'd have to take on everything about Christianity which has so many laughable holes it makes no sense. Some good parenting will suffice.

[@ThyReverend]

Lol full agreement there. Good parents are hard to come by. Not is no one taught how to be a good parent, but there are soooo many distractions and things to attend to in this crazy world that the internet/media becomes the parent. Real scary. And peterson has further arguments to address why dragons, snakes, etc are necessary but no need to go into it here other than its useful to conceptualize god as a human male because than the huge system that we are small parts of becomes accessible with language. Its tough for our minds to interface with a vague concept such as "source" or "the universe" but our minds can interface with other humans, taking a huge load off of our brains. Make god too abstract and your brain just lets "him" float away. Anyways loved this discussion, rare to see anything like this in youtube comments lol. Have a good one

[@thegemijam9631]

is he hangover or something?

[@j_deo]

Oops....Christ is not a chinese philosopher. Misattribution....

[@captainomoplata643]

Shit, Peterson made me lose The Game

[@robertimmanuel577]

10:56

[@nancymohass4891]

Wish you could manage to talk to your students more up to the point and less unnecessary words and stories! You sound like they're in the class to spend Sun. morning with a priest !

[@charlesrump5771]

Nancy Mohass When your talking about something that is as complicated as the subject of his lecture it often helps to give examples such as stories or analogies. This makes it easier for the listeners to comprehend the abstact lessons that can be derived from such stories.

[@veralanger8947]

what is wrong about spending morning Sun in a class with intelligent priest. Nancy Mohass? Why does it bother you so much?