Jordan Peterson - Do Women Want Men With Money?

[@Giggiyygoo]

My wife is great. We met when I made an average salary. Then I started a business and became fairly wealthy. Then, that business failed miserably and I'm back to being poor, and she still stands by me. I may have lost my money, but I have something better.

[@ubuntuber1619]

cool story bro

[@iamasmurf1122]

Your buisiness failed because she did not support you enough in your buisiness ! How is she great ?

[@Giggiyygoo]

@@iamasmurf1122 What an odd assumption.......

[@florentn7442]

@@iamasmurf1122 are you mad that there’s someone out there that acts like an actual couple? Take your resentment and shove it up your ass.

[@nastylilscrappy9047]

I would guess ur wife is just an average womem. Getting an average woman to stick by ur side is WAY easier than getting a beautiful woman with many options to stick around.

[@MeZoRH]

Listen boys, chase the bag. You’ll get everything you want when your wealthy. They will fight for you, you’ll have options beyond belief. But also remember, if you have someone right now who’s by your side when you don’t have anything, remember to never let them go.

[@warrensantos9732]

you'll lose money by chasing women, but you'll never lose women by chasing money.

[@brentboost2879]

Um no, let that person go no matter how loyal they SEEM

[@hawk_202]

You forget the part where money isnt everything and where you can still have serious issues and blindspots. Now you have money and you MUST also have the ability to soo who isnt just there for the money. And even if you have no money and someone is with you that isnt automatically the right person, otherwise i may as well ensure im poor or pretty low down the ladder just to know the money isnt why theyre there. Maybe you have nothing or you think you do it doesnt mean they are there for the right reasons.......

[@frankielloyd6510]

Absolutely true statement

[@mediacenterman8583]

@@warrensantos9732 Bullshit. Prisons are full of dudes who believed that nonsense. Now they are washing some dudes underwear and their lady is getting piped and even knocked up by some other dude.

[@antonmsk3401]

When I was working in mainland China a common question on a first date was “what do you do” followed by “what is your salary”. At least you can appreciate the honesty 😂

[@nightheist2191]

We in Asia have hardcore hypergamy . Beauty of your wife is directly proportional to your wealth.

[@TommyGunzzz]

@@nightheist2191 Damn 😆

[@TommyGunzzz]

Same, lived there 1.5 years and first question was "What's your salary?"

[@hemantsarathe8970]

😂🤣🤣🤣

[@hemantsarathe8970]

@@nightheist2191 🤣🤣🤣

[@entitykeeper8869]

I was married. My ex-wife equated money and gifts equaled love. Her materialistic mindset bankrupted the family. There's absolutely no way to fix a materialistic mindset. To this day when I peruse social media I see women posing with their materialistic conquests. An empty soul can not be filled with money.

[@untouchableali]

I wouldn’t blame that entirely on her. How did her materialism bankrupt the family, did you not have a say in her spending? And did you feed her appetite for materialistic gifts? A lot of the time we as men control our surroundings, we fail when we lose control.

[@maureenvincent4414]

Men are the same as well, you cannot buy love or esteem.

[@drewcarell7086]

I wish more people understood what you’re saying. This strong need to attain status or money or beauty or whatever other superficial “possession” is a big need to fill up some kind of self esteem deficiency or feelings of loneliness/disconnect. Someone once told me that the cure for everything is connection. I think that’s an enormously oversimplified statement, but it’s still pretty much true.

[@kentaronagame7529]

How'd your wife bankrupt the family without your help is what I wanna know.

[@infinitydreamzz]

There is a difference between a woman looking for a man with a job, a house, and a car, and a woman looking for a man that can provide jewelry, furs, holidays and gifts.

[@dashriprock9092]

Once when I was dating, my girl phoned me and said, “Come on over. There’s nobody home.” I went over. Nobody was home.

[@kylesmiles3714]

Good try

[@spicywaters203]

Andersen

[@razorback7158]

LOL

[@olivebelgians809]

Haha good one 😆😅

[@Noblyuntruthful]

Every minute in Africa, 60 seconds passes

[@tomasnokechtesledger1786]

They wait in the finish line and pick up the winners ... Richard Cooper. Truth served.

[@Aubatron]

It's so true. Men create their sexual marketplace value, women are born into it. The great thing about that for men though, is men have so many opportunities to arise to the challenge and become something big. Women on the other hand think education and career status increase their marketplace value, but a LOT of them don't understand that men don't give a crap about that. It just means they have more expectations for men and are more work. Very few men find it attractive.

[@David-fw4ly]

This!

[@smithh104]

@@Aubatron Not only that, Women are not really attracted to a man who doesnt earn more than themselves.

[@michaeln.2383]

Grab someone someone who is about to graduate from law school or medical school or something else right before they're going make it big. Once they make big, it's too late. Someone else already has them.

[@Aubatron]

@@michaeln.2383 Good way to get divorced. I guess you come out ahead financially though.

[@antonia6059]

So true my husband was very poor when I met him. But he is a really hard worker and very intelligent. Many of my friends and family told me not to marry him. 15 years and 3 kids later we proved the doubters wrong. We are living very comfortably now because he’s always strived to improve.

[@victorleon1563]

You are obviously not a gold digger

[@TheUnique69able]

Not to be offensive, but in those 15 years what did you do to improve?

[@TheUnique69able]

@Meddlecat the question wasn’t aimed at you but at the original comment

[@6sauvik]

If you think woman like that don’t exist and you get that

[@sterlingsilver5937]

@@TheUnique69able I'd also like to know the answer to that question. The original post mentions that her husband is hardworking but I'd like to hear what she believed she brought to the table. I'm kind of getting tired of all this emphasis being placed on what men do when there is very little that many women do to add to a relationship. Very little.

[@rafaelbaere1707]

You will attract a lot of people if you have money. I am just not so sure they are the kind of people you want to be surrounded by....

[@nicknonya2198]

You'll only have friends that ask for money.

[@megarancher91]

State of modern affairs. Your worth as a human being is determined by what you own.

[@drewcarell7086]

That is 100% true.

[@megarancher91]

Which part?

[@infinitydreamzz]

What if you have money and hang out with other people that have money and don't need yours? I believe that's the most common scenario..

[@englishdavemk1]

"Do Women Want Men With Money?" No, they just want money

[@rudy1999]

Yep, doesn't matter if you are Michael, Peter or Jimmy xD

[@JoshuaM141]

*The capacity to generate money

[@alejandrosanchez6457]

Yes they want nothing to do with you, if you don't have anything going on the women won't come around they would not waste there time

[@englishdavemk1]

@@alejandrosanchez6457 wasting their time? How many waste their own time but don't realize untill they hit 30+?

[@alejandrosanchez6457]

@@englishdavemk1 very true

[@hollysmith1347]

I guess I failed at being a female 🤣 My partner is broke and not socially attractive. I choose him based on having similar morals, political views and life goals. Simple life grow old together and live in the country side living off the land. Money comes and goes (can't take it with me when I'm dead), and youth/beauty fades. I wanted someone I can spend the rest of my life with. Where we are able to tolerate each other's flaws. Money and looks meh won't give me contentment or regrets in the end. Being surrounded by my family is what makes me happy and gives me joy.

[@imranmul]

Hi

[@imranmul]

WhatsApp me

[@Jay-og4yb]

@@imranmul how'd that work for you, Ryan Gosling?

[@Jay-og4yb]

Did you just call your own boyfriend socially unattractive? Yikes

[@hollysmith1347]

@@Jay-og4yb you know what I mean. He isn't what is commonly considered handsome. Tall, square jawed, blemish free skin, think hair, broad shoulders, average weight (slightly muscular), Idk whatever. I'm average looking at best. Reality is what it is. His personality more than makes ups for anything else.

[@michalyne]

I'm sure Tiger Woods had thirty girlfriends and a wife because of his looks and personality.

[@darrenmcgovern1969]

Pretty sure not.

[@HJM49125]

lol. I get ya

[@rudy1999]

He got a bbc too, prob a nice bonus xD

[@dgbelcher]

@@rudy1999 😂🤣😂🤣👍

[@nachc6459]

😂

[@alohaohana901]

They say "security" which is code for money

[@thewhitewizard1320]

Or men with "power"

[@JoshuaM141]

It´s... actually the capacity to generate resources. Money just happens to be main one nowadays.

[@BRBallin1]

Not just money but ability to generate it on a consistent basis and using that money to fund various things that let one have a fulfilling life. As he mentioned, women don’t like rich useless guys

[@husher5142]

i think you missed 'usefulness' in the dichotomy which if you whine a lot your usefulness factor drops - FYI

[@alohaohana901]

@@husher5142 Try not to use big words...your comment is rather incoherent

[@finchborat]

We all know the answer: Yes. They want guys that are hot and rich. Women tend to have ridiculously high expectations.

[@dilhancongar-pn1nd]

Yeah and you want the hot chick with a great personality.

[@finchborat]

@@dilhancongar-pn1nd As long as she isn't filled with drama.

[@PhillipH-san]

"No one likes me but really I'm okay..." No! Wrong! If everyone rejects you there's probably something wrong! That hits hard.

[@phils6524]

Well I think "wrong" is not the right word. "There's probably a reason" would be more accurate. A person might be rejected because they dont follow certain cultural or sub-cultural norms, for example. Think of the cruelty to animals in some sub-cultures like the famous Chinese wet markets. A person rejecting and protesting such conditions will not be liked in those places, but there is something wrong with the majority, not the individual.

[@Enyoiyourself]

@@phils6524 That's a long way to say "nobody likes me and that's ok is wrong".

[@biggav7434]

Cold hard truth. From bomber command.

[@JoshuaM141]

Might be you are also looking for partners in the wrong place. And don't get discouraged, everyone has something wrong with them. Use that as inspiration to learn about yourself and be better

[@r77-o3d]

being against hitler in 1940 germany would'nt get you many friends

[@thehdynasty]

When you ask people to do a survey vs what they will actually do in real life is very different.

[@User-du7kf]

So feminism is a lie? cause girls feel unsafe walking the streets according to the survey.

[@onlyslavesareequal2790]

People answer what they think is right answer based on what their culture says, they dont know what they will actually do when opportunity arises.

[@chipomwansa3446]

My thought exactly.. The reality is very different.

[@deltaflux2381]

@@User-du7kf Third wave feminism is definitely full of lies

[@Maturas]

@@User-du7kf Most girls are paranoid nowadays and see every man as a potential sexual predator. Feeling unsafe and actually being in a state of potential danger are two separate things.

[@leutenant1000]

Most women will answer what is considered morally and socially "right" in these surveys, no matter what their real intents are. The surveys are really shallow and do not reflect the actual mindset of a woman after carefully considering her choices. The real answers to these questions are 90% affected by comparison and social positioning, or where the woman, by choosing a certain male, will be ranked socially with respect to her peers, especially these days in the presence of social media and its effect in virtually giving social stature to people based on their activities and mode de vie. The part where women are to choose between useful, useless, rich and poor cannot be true because it does not reflect reality, where the real answer to this question is very obvious, most women never choose a poor guy no matter if useless or useful, if they were given to choose between poor or rich. This will always come first, especially these days.

[@adventurer3645]

This is exactly right. What JP is doing here is trying influence society to value usefulness but he is well aware that most women would choose the rich guy. JP is trying to make it seem like women value usefulness in the hopes it would become a self fulfilling prophecy. It won't work. Only the dimmest of dimwits would believe this "experiment" really reflects women's choice. Human reasoning and decision making is much more complex than this in reality.

[@infinitydreamzz]

You don't know what you're talking about

[@infinitydreamzz]

"They will choose the rich guy" -Isolating the quality of being rich as being the only, or at least major characteristic of those people is wrong. The people that become/are rich are quite often intelligent, clever, confident, hard working, social, creative, resourceful, passionate and these qualities tend to shine, so women don't just choose rich, they also choose those qualities too. Any woman that goes with a brainless guy for his riches, is either brainless, a manipulator or even desperate. -Women are strongly attracted to social status: fame, a respectable profession, even a low paying job that provides some kind of status e.g. nightclub doorman, a person with plenty of connections etc. Money in itself attracts some women, but it is the social status money implies that attracts the vast majority. -Women are attracted to character: Confidence is irresistible, it is by itself enough to get the hottest women in someone's bed and keep them there. Women are also attracted to passionate men with interests, men with humour, intelligent men. Women are stimulated mentally. -Women are hardwired to look for a safe environment for their offspring to grow up. Clearly the ability to generate money can provide that environment, a stable job, a house. -Women are attracted to appearance but most women will sooner or later leave a man that has nothing going on for himself besides that. So, imagine being a confident, good looking, rich, famous, intelligent, with a high status in society man. Women will literally jump on your dick. 😄 Now, let's see what men are attracted to: appearance.

[@infinitydreamzz]

By the way, being "rich" is not even a necessary factor of attraction. Millionaires are only a small percentage of the overall population. A lot, maybe most, doctors are not millionaires, yet arguably, women find that profession irresistible. Doing financially well is good enough for the vast majority of women, you don't have to be Elon Musk to be appreciated

[@vulpes122]

Yeah you took the words out of my mouth. The bit where Jordan Peterson says that women will act in a 'logical manner' when choosing a partner really just revealed that he is far too trusting of studies and people's self report. It reminds me of the way economists try to apply the model of the 'rational economic man' or homo economicus to people's economic choices; which describes people as always seeking to maximise their own gain and therefore are uninfluenced by marketing when you just look anywhere at people's choices with cars, homes, schools etc. and you see that is absolute bullshit. They are determined almost singularly by social positioning; how you will be perceived. If they just added height as a factor for influencing women's choice of a partner to that study that showed usefulness as having a main effect when wealth did not it would probably eliminate usefulness completely. And they could also ask these same women in that study who they were dating/married to and the results could easily be assumed to be very different to what they claim to care about; it would be > taller than me + > makes more money than me. Having read people that have criticised psychology such as Theodore Dalrymple and his book Admirable Evasions which provides a deep excoriation of psychology I no longer find Jordan Peterson as appealing as I used to, or psychology as a field for that matter.

[@figleafyogi]

I guess that's why mama always said.. "make yourself useful"

[@traderjoe2140]

You were being trained 😁

[@mkast2815]

@@traderjoe2140 Drilled.

[@corichang]

How about an useful woman?

[@mankind8807]

Cori Chang Does such a thing exist?

[@corichang]

@@mankind8807 I'll let you know when I finally succeed to guide my daughter on the way of becoming one. I believe it'd be good for her... Care to wish us luck, please? Thanks

[@sebastianrambert7097]

Tony Montana already educated us in that. “When you get the money.... you get the power... when you get the power you get the women.”

[@anagcbr8636]

Actually it was: when you get money, you get power, when you get power then you get the pussy 😂

[@KingSnowyKerr]

@@anagcbr8636 was thinking the samething 🐈‍⬛

[@akashin6385]

Alpha males get women.

[@ejp246]

@@anagcbr8636 Well, no matter what it is, my man is right. However, I do recall the "the" part before each vagina requirement.

[@aerogun18]

Scarface is supposed to be a criticism of that mindset. What happened to the protagonist at the end seemed to have made that obvious, but whatever.

[@aisthetic.art1]

In today's world, being a high value man means you should also choose to enter into a commitment/relationship with a high value woman...It seems illogical to grind so hard for your resources only to end up marrying a complete idiot.

[@Foxglove963]

ken mzy. Like Melania married Trump.

[@dompit9535]

Logic means shit in bed lmao

[@infinitydreamzz]

"It seems illogical" It is illogical but we humans are way more instinctual (and emotional and counter-logic) than we are logical so males are for the most part driven by their reproductive instincts when choosing a female partner, and females are instinctually aware of how to manipulate those urges and overwhelm the male with primal attraction. And as far as our animalistic nature is concerned it's all good for the survival of the species. Only a few males have developed a strong enough logic, that can interfere in the process. And even those males will recognise the attractive qualities of a woman they deem "stupid"

[@infinitydreamzz]

Long story short we forget / do not even realise we are animals governed by nature. And ideologists like feminists make up theories that completely ignore this reality

[@gpsdoc2222]

@@infinitydreamzz I think I understand the idea you are explaining. When it comes to companionship and relationships, males are more driven by physical desires from their partners while females try to secure a financial future by making sure they find the best partners with the most compatible personality and good financial future. Ideally both partners get in a relationship where they are both compatible with each other personality wise and financially. I am not trying to stereotypically label, saying females go for males richer than them. The opposite can happen where males can also go for richer females than them. That's a whole other topic.

[@Voodoomaria]

Old Joke: -Rich old man to Society Woman: "Madam will you sleep with me for a million dollars?" -Society Woman: "Of course Darling." -Rich old man: Madam, will you sleep with me for twenty dollars?" -Society woman: "Of course not, what sort of woman do you think I am?" -Rich Man: "Madam, We have already established that, NOW we are haggling over price."

[@daviesdavies538]

Reminds me of that film with Demi Moore - Indecent Proposal. Funny bc these days I don't think it would be a thing, most people would say yes. He'll, us blokes would do it for free lol

[@arnavverma4507]

Nice reference from Mr. Robot

[@Koozomec]

It's often attributed to W Churchill.

[@Voodoomaria]

@@Koozomec Sounds like his sense of humor, But i've not seen it on his lists of verified quotes. I wonder who first said "All women are sitting on a gold mine"?

[@Koozomec]

@@Voodoomaria Give a bag of gold coins to an entitled woman, she will complain about the weight. Anonymous commenter on yt

[@Therealalbot]

Red Green pretty much said the same thing. "If women don't find you handsome they should at least find you handy"

[@periculumesse1525]

That would be "poor" and "useful". Or in Red Green's case, poor and useless.

[@tiddybearkush]

Except "handy" to day is to make a TikTok or talk and talk without actually being able to do the handy stuff... This world must die

[@warrensantos9732]

"we know what makes up attractive facial features" - proceeds to draw anime face

[@mindhunter8772]

You look a bit like the anime

[@ThePamastymui]

Actually, males in serious anime or in serious anime moments, or in "those" anime moments are drawn quite similarly.

[@SKn6426]

Don't you act like he didn't know what he was doing

[@nateb4485]

these are a bunch of clips from jordan peterson talks put together by this channel, the people who made the graphics are just showing what they think it means not what the science shows

[@geekmusic68]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWm9g2WvatR9mZo

[@austinnguyen9107]

Thanks for doing this. Very well done and organized. I've seen the original videos before and this makes it a lot clearer

[@maureenvincent4414]

ADD A COUPLE OF BIG WORDS and everything makes sense:)

[@ocvegasproperty]

Love how the various lectures with similar points are compiled together...

[@MrHarumakiSensei]

"Chimpanzee females are non-discriminate maters" Goddammit, I evolved into the wrong species!

[@Pietrosavr]

Don't worry, you would be chased off by the dominant chimps anyway

[@MrHarumakiSensei]

@@Pietrosavr Ah yes, but in a world where the females don't give a f*** how beta you are, there'd be a supply and demand issue that interested parties could work together to resolve.

[@keepmovingforward8821]

@@Pietrosavr ruthless

[@papjin6069]

So, u wish to HV a drunken, wasted useless partner in any case?

[@MrHarumakiSensei]

@@papjin6069 Um, no, that's the point. Accomplished, competent, smart women won't reject you if you're around when they're in the mood. Kinda like how men work in humans.

[@timmorodgers4271]

Interesting how there’s a body positive movement for women, pushing the idea that women of all shapes and sizes are attractive and don’t need to change (which I think is a good thing, nobody should feel bad about themselves) while for men 85% are classed as below average attentiveness by women, and are therefore rejected.

[@MrEdrftgyuji]

You never see any men in those "body positive" adverts - it is always women.

[@vector_vector__]

You can just ignore their silly body posive movement . I mean we all know Men don't really like overweight or Fat ₩0mn let's be honest " no matter how much they try to force us and rubb it on our face As Men we know what we like (WE LIKE FIT WOMEN ) . And we are not obligated to pretend that being Wh*l£ is beautiful when it's obviously not ( yup not all size "that's a LIE ) .

[@Nonamegoodsir4332]

@@MrEdrftgyuji facts, only ugly guys support women being ugly. just the same as only poor men celebrating other poor men

[@jaybee4288]

How is it strange? We are not considering having sexual intercourse with fat girls so we can happily be positive about their looks. If I was positive about an ugly mans looks would he not get a wrong idea? Are you saying I should sleep with ugly men? I don’t understand how you don’t see the difference. I can find someone cute or positive things about someone without wanting to sleep with them but to want to have sex with a man, he has to be physically attractive, otherwise it doesn’t do it biologically. Not sure why men don’t understand that attraction is not a choice.

[@Silveri94]

Now i can die happily, single. Thanks

[@redskinjim]

you smart

[@HectorGarcia-nb2ld]

Stay single or get cleaned

[@saif9amar417]

Good for you

[@jeffreysmith5175]

That's going to happen to me anyway.

[@NYRyder1983]

You're not the only one, pal.

[@poonamkumar7941]

"We asked women etc." Shows the flaw in the study. What women say and the truth are two completely separate things.

[@counterleo]

Thank you The dating site study is how you do things

[@Noblyuntruthful]

Qualitative research is only as accurate as the honesty of the person providing the account.

[@akashin6385]

Butthurt losers.

[@evilroberto4024]

Well it makes sense the useful guy is more likely to earn more in the future and will keep his wealth better than the useless. Meaning if you're going to have a stable relationship the useful guy is the best option. Sure you have pump and dump women but i think most people want a stable long-term solution so it's reasonable to assume women generally want a guy who can produce more than a guy who doesn't.

[@peteranon8455]

@@akashin6385 Naw, they're bringing up a great argument about self report studies.

[@dgbelcher]

If a man has not got money, or social status, go on a dating site and see how far you get... You wont even leave the starting blocks.

[@counterleo]

They want money to marry, and good looks and exciting confident personality to fuck. But hypergamy being a thing you need to be in the top 10% of attractiveness and confidence to be even considered for a hookup or a casual thing

[@bhg582]

tragic

[@geekmusic68]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWm9g2WvatR9mZo

[@markanon8914]

If you're useful as the video suggests, wouldn't you have some social status?

[@jumhed994]

Get good then.

[@Aanonymous88]

The sweetest thing is not "I Love you" but rather I don't need your money.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

And yet men insist they aren't attracted to financially independent women

[@paulwilliams9381]

Doesn't sound like a very reliable way to gather information - we asked X number of women to answer X and we just trust that they are honest (even with themselves) in their response...

[@frankyu6984]

X number of women didn't want to look shallow so they said a useless rich guy is not attractive.

[@paulwilliams9381]

@@solarydays I'm not sure how your hammer and nail comment relates in the context of what I said - I am commenting on the reliability of research whereby someone asks something and then accepts the response at face-value. It would be like asking 100 men: if your partner was in an accident and somehow lost her vagina, would you stay with her? 100% of the men said of course they would stay... because they don't want to sound like a shallow douche. If a guy was 'useful' but made no money then he would have no chance sustaining a successful relationship, and the only reason the women answered the way that they did is because they don't want to sound like shallow douches. That's a fact! In fact, if all a man had was a hammer then his only chance of getting a woman would be to sneak up on her and use it to bonk her on the head. And I would never think any woman was a gold digger. Do you know how hard it is to mine and dig for gold. Yeah, good luck getting a woman to do that kind of hard labour. So 'gold digger', no. Money-hungry vaginas that walk and talk, yes.

[@paulwilliams9381]

@@solarydays well maybe you are the unicorn? Or maybe you understand your place on the desirability hierarchy, and if you were placed higher then you wouldn't have given your husband the time of day? Yes I am shallow. Everyone is. All men are the same, and all women are the same when you break them down to their core needs and desires. Do you think your husband would have looked at you if he didn't find you attractive? Do you think you would have looked at him if he had no job at all? Human beings are shallow by nature, and they lie about it - even to themselves.

[@paulwilliams9381]

@@solarydays for someone so educated and accomplished it's amusing that you are so clueless. The desirability hierarchy is not the same for men and women. Men don't care about your education or accomplishments - that's what women care about. Men only care about your physical attractiveness, ability to have and raise children, and the likelihood that you will remain with them for the duration of that process. If you were higher up the female desirability hierarchy (physical attractiveness) then you would seek a man who is higher up the male desirability hierarchy (wealth and status). 'Looking for character and not wealth' is exactly what I mean about lying to yourself. If you had first met your husband and he was down and out, jobless, homeless etc, you would not have been with him. Going through rough times as a couple is not the same thing. I'm not sure why someone so 'educated and accomplished' is wasting her time misunderstanding and responding KZbin comments... nice attack on my maturity, by the way. We're all living in the land of adults, but some are still as naïve as children.

[@JoshuaM141]

There´s plenty of statistical and physiological background to give this studies some credibility. Of course, you are always welcome to find studies that might indicate the opposite of what is being presented. (if you go find Petersons classes you will find most links to the research he mentions)

[@michaelnaz6457]

Im doing monk mode life right now. So I can care less about my status with women. Can't build wealth and be affluent with women. Something has to give.

[@henrichyenn]

true. I sleep with a chick and my drive and energy is substantially lowered for the next 2-3days. Then it is ''time'' to have sex again and that is only if I deliberately wont meet with her sooner. Else we would have sex every day as much as I know. Like crack addicts. Now im considering meeting with her for sex maximum once in 2 weeks but then, what modern woman would settle for that? When you know that, there is time for a sacrifice. And we know what is to be sacrificed

[@michaelnaz6457]

@@henrichyenn Just a healthy relationship is all that matters. One woman is enough. I had my "Cake & eat it too" Doesn't work with goal setting.

[@michaelnaz6457]

@All Lives Matter A term that is a bit associated with the nofap community. Hard mode, and monk mode. Google the terms.

[@chillaccount9550]

@All Lives Matter no lives matter

[@aldunlop4622]

I think you “can’t care less”. Saying you can care less means you’re not at the bottom yet, so you could, in fact, care less...

[@transacumen5172]

Sometimes when people reject you; it’s because of their own insecurities!

[@JamesSmith-cm7sg]

But the survey is flawed. Women's thoughts don't match their actions. Ask women what they want and they'll pick the good looking, tall, nice & funny guy, however in reality they'll end up with either the jerk or the rich guy (assuming they have those options).

[@user-iu1ru1qz7u]

There's a difference between them not knowing what they want and what we can observe to be what they actually want, and that's the focus of this lecture.

[@JamesSmith-cm7sg]

@@user-iu1ru1qz7u I was specifically talking about the surveys used as evidence.

[@user-iu1ru1qz7u]

@@JamesSmith-cm7sg you could argue that presenting them with choice promotes a more accurate result than simply asking them to come up with a description of what they think their after. So it's not so much "hey describe your dream man", but rather, "out of these choices which do you go for?". You can't say you want a burger when I ask you to choose between sushi and pasta. Thus, in theory, the flaw of women's lack of awareness is removed from the test.

[@JoshuaM141]

That's because being low on agreeableness is usually a good indicator of success in a capitalist economy.

[@BRBallin1]

They end up with other circumstances but that doesn’t mean they didn’t want what they initially selected

[@paulthomson2288]

Well...this confirms my own real life observations and experience...

[@realitycheck4746]

They want you to work for their success so they don't have to. Seems legit.

[@Stuttgart1887]

Hahahahahaha

[@Whattheflyingfuxk]

That’s not true women fought to work , get equal pay etc. Most women just want a man who had a head on his shoulders and isn’t a complete idiot . You missed the whole point of the video !

[@pennyjane9906]

You can only work for your own success... someone else can never work for your success. It will never feel like your own success if you didn‘t work for it.

[@realitycheck4746]

@@Whattheflyingfuxk I am going to respectfully disagree with your statement, as I believe that I understood the video entirely. Yes, women were discriminated against in the past, however, that is entirely not true today. Nearing the end of the video, he claims women engage in hypergamy, which roughly means that women will form a relationship with a man with a higher socioeconomic status. It means women will be inclined to find the highest status man possible, resulting in men having to "date down" or as I have stated, "They want you to work for their success so they don't have to." He says women do not marry for money, but he claims to know about hypergamy. It seems to be quite the contradiction in my opinion. Feel free to debunk my response and thank you for responding.

[@bullymaguire2061]

@@realitycheck4746 hypergamy does not necessarily mean more in money. It can mean higher in mamy ways. Higher in status. And no they don't want you to work for "their" success. They want to support you as you climb the socioeconomic ladder.

[@czeslawszerszen7965]

Well...being 60 plus I have seen it all. From being very, very poor went to millionaire in just few years. Some hard work but also a lots of luck. During my poor years I had few romantic relationships, mostly because of my sense of humor, since I am just an average guy. Once I got my millions I had to install the revolving door in my bedroom. Sad but real. If you really want to find a right person, never ever let her know how much you are worth. If you enjoy showing off you will be much more better paying for sex... than getting married. It will save you a lots of money. (from my personal experience)

[@largervoid1708]

wise words....

[@OnlyStoni]

Hey, thanks for your words, you really speaking the truth. Hope you’ll find a peaceful life. But I got a question, if you just want to get women (very very attractive women) crazy about you not for a serious relationship but to be able to get any women you want for sex or simply to get her crazy about you, what do you have to do? How you have to be as a men?

[@czeslawszerszen7965]

@@OnlyStoni well...you have to play the game. Super attractive woman have tons of men trying to get her attention. The best way to actually play opposite. yes you knowledge her but don't become one of many admirers who try to get her. How about showing interests in one of her less pretty friend? This will allow you to stay relatively close to your target. It will really piss her off and she will ask herself how does it come? I can have any guy and this one does not crawl on the floor for me? She might first test the waters by asking you for a small favor or something but you just polite wiggle your way out...just say another time or you are too busy. Let her asking questions why on earth this guy does not fall for me. let her come for you not the other way. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. good luck to you.

[@psoozan9648]

​@@czeslawszerszen7965 so basically manipulate her and make her feel insecure. It's sad that you would rather sell your character than be an honorable person and shoot within your range.

[@tomlewis9776]

@Max Larson women dont love men, they love what you can do for them. Women love themselves, the sisterhood, and their children.

[@scottbrown7415]

The old saying about the woman being a "ball and chain" is much more accurate than most people admit. Being a 60 yo never married heterosexual man, my experience is that marriage is for people who want to create and raise children. If you don't want children you should stay away from marriage. Life will be much simpler.

[@maureenvincent4414]

Thank goodness women are safe from you arse-hole:)

[@shelbynamels973]

I consider the fact that I can do things spur of the moment and don't have to check and coordinate with somebody to be a real benefit of being a bachelor.

[@Z3t487]

@@maureenvincent4414 Most marriages end in a divorce anyways, so just don't be married.

[@maureenvincent4414]

@@Z3t487 He will not let me go....the world has ME under pressure...I am about to lose it...need to get my eyes checked out...I was blinded by his holey de-meaner...than me

[@ramrod2298]

0:56 MAJOR problem with your analysis: you define the "rich useless" guy as bringing in $4,000/month - how is that rich?? Give that rich useless guy a $25,000/month income and watch the women flock to him.

[@justusbowman]

Yeah, is 48k a year rich?

[@hijodelaisla275]

@@justusbowman Maybe the study was done in Liberia.

[@buh5995]

@@justusbowman LOL

[@JonBandMiley]

How would the girls flock to him cuz he's rich? How would she even know he's rich? And if she is gonna "like him" for his money, she's just gonna PRETEND to like him, get him to pay her bills and buy her stuff while saying she has a 3 month rule, and then have sex with the poor guy she actually likes!

[@josephlabato8446]

4k a month? That's insanely rich! I only make 1200 a month Haha

[@paulrath7764]

Rich Old Man #1: Hey, I’m getting married again. My new bride is 25 years old Rich Old Man #2: Why would a young woman want to marry a 75 year-old like you? Rich Old Man #1: I lied to her about my age Rich Old Man #2: What? Did you tell her you were 55? Rich Old Man #1: No, I told her I was 95.

[@yve4889]

I don't get it.

[@b1gb017]

@@yve4889 she thinks he’s more likely to die soon so she can get some his will, but she’s stuck with him as he’s actually younger

[@yve4889]

@@b1gb017 😂😂😂

[@darrylokech292]

LMAO😂😂😂

[@cipsas2]

Wow, this was really a new joke LOL. Thanks :D

[@periculumesse1525]

At a deep level, my wife only wants me for how I provide. She is not really into "me" and who I am. It is what I do. This is a hard lesson. She is loves the comfort I provide, not my mind, my soul. She loves how the dishes are done, not really who I am.

[@antonboludo8886]

Then drop her.

[@periculumesse1525]

@@antonboludo8886 Hypergamy means this desire for men who provide is normal. Its deep to realize why men are valuable. Its not our ethics, morality, our mind. Its our stuff.

[@antonboludo8886]

@@periculumesse1525 That's right. It is a biological instinct. Fortunately there a very few (not many at all) who are not like that. I live my life for me, and if I meet a woman whom I find worthy, I grant her the privilege of accompanying me in it. This sounds a bit arrogant, but women tend to interpret a little arrogance in men as confidence, which is an attractive trait to them. (Arrogance in the right measure of course. Too much of it will turn them off.) I don't usually get into long-term relationships because I get tired of their drama rather quickly. You are already married, though, so the situation is more complicated for you.

[@tristandrew5903]

You don't get in to long term relationships because you can't hold them down long enough to try or aren't worthy of passing the inevitable shit tests women consciously and subconsciously through at a man to see if he is strong enough and reacts or doesn't react correctly. But I do sympathise with your point. I think we all wish fairytale romance existed. It doesn't, 99% of people are selfish, adulterous assholes and so we all go about our business the same way

[@mijalheinrich4331]

I am sorry. Looks as if you have choosen wrong.

[@makqa6675]

I was into a girl, who was obviously into me. Every time I had to give a report in front of the class she would play with her hair, would often look at me with thirsty eyes and stuff, and I tried to softly approach her, starting a conversation and stuff, but it was always as if she didn't want to talk, she would not pick up on the conversation etc. Eventually at the end of the academic year, in the summer, we had a party with a few friends from our group. And she came there too with a guy, who had been expelled from the uni a year ago and spent his entire year in the army (Russia). He wasn't smart, he wasn't a chad, he is shorter than me. We used to study for two years and he performed poorly academically barely getting "satisfactory" on most subjects , neither was he very good at the niche subject. I'm meanwhile very advanced in the knowledge of my specialization, and literally every one at the faculty knows me and how good I am... But for some reason the moment that guy texted her and decided to agreed to a relationship. I thought to myself "fuck that shit" and started to ignore her. Again the following year, she would often play with her hair in my presence, sometimes she even looked at my pants in the d-zone. And then, again, again, I tried to talk to her, but it was as if she didn't care. Now, she is at it again... Now, before you say "you just overestimate yourself", there were also other girls who showed me all those signs. Like, I know I'm attractive ok. I've consistently got those signs since school, but it's like a fukcing a brick wall or something. Maybe it's my social skills, but I really don't know. Here's another thing, there was another girl who I liked and who also showed interest in me, eventually I asked her out and she said "oh, I'm sorry, I'm busy working". Then, again after the fact she showed all the signs of being attracted to me, but when I tried to talk it's as if it's a fucking brick wall. I mean I asked her out, she softly rejected, am I supposed to jump in front of her in public to show her that o like her or what? Because this is just stupid. If girls choose by competence, where the fuck is this? I'm also facially and physically attractive, and yet I can't get girls to respond to me. There's another girl in my group who fumbles with her hair all the time and literally looks in my direction....Again, I try to approach her, I even touched her, and she is like "don't touch". Then again and again, again I know it sounds insane, you would think I'm just lying or sth, but please give me the benefit of the doubt. Another story. So when I was in 11 grade , there was a girl we talked to quite often , I didn't approach her in terms of love, but she was cute. Again she showed all signs of attraction. So, anyway, two years later I decided to hit her up and ask her out. She agreed readily. Like literally... She didn't even hesitate, just like that. We went out, we laughed, she would laugh at all my jokes, we would hold hands , and i often hinted at hanging out sometime again somewhere... Now... At the end of the date we were talking about what she was going to do when she came home, and I asked if she lived with her parents. She said... "Well, no, actually with my boyfriend". ... Ok... I was like... Ok... There I thought :"Am I being a sucker because I can't lay a girl in such an obvious situation or am just an idiot, or am I really doing something wrong, or do I not understand something in general... Or is he, too, being a lame ass-sucker that his "girl", is hanging out with a dude from school holding hands, playing with her hair and laughing at the jokes to a script"... The thing is that this girl is actually very, what you would call, conscientious, always bubbly, looks good, in shape doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, plays videogames, for real, she doesn't like KZbin , she isn't on social media (she openly said to me "...and what am I supposed to do on there?", and in general acts decent and smart, no bs, frills or anything, no ego A very very good girl by all standards. But even with a girl like this you just get checked by the brutal nature of relationships and selection. Seriously. They act like this and don't even notice. Anyway, several minutes after that, she took a suburban train and left. After the date I looked up the profile of her "boyfriend". He was some basic skinny dude, not chad, not anything. Honestly, this is ridiculous. I feel like there's something else in the game. Like, one minute they are all so demanding and ostensibly sophisticated and will screw over the guy they like, and next minute they fall for an average guy who just showed up at the right time. Like, I'm not saying I cannot do the same, but over and over I've observed that women tend to just show the most obvious signs whenever they feel like it, but when you try to softly chat them up they all switch off. It's as if they expect you to do everything or to be more forceful, I don't know. The thing is it annoys me.

[@Leetheblackvoid99]

I think that the video with Jordan talking about zebras might provide a plausible answer to your situation/question.

[@Komyeta]

Did the Russian Army Guy survived?

[@makqa6675]

@@Komyeta it was a one-year obligatory conscription for any young man in Russia 18-27 years of age. They don't send anyone serving on these terms to war, at least they must not according to the law. So the guy is fine

[@Komyeta]

@@makqa6675 Let's unite and say no to Ukronazis

[@missmapleleaf]

“The selection pressure that women put on men developed the whole species”. Jordon Peterson inadvertently sums up the heart of feminism(s). Oh the irony.

[@hijodelaisla275]

He's pandering. He did it a few times in this video.

[@gabrielvalentoniguelfi8945]

Well, but this also means that women tend to cruch on the "kings" and happilly follow their leads. "Oh, the irony!" (Nothing of this has something to do with feminism, friend. Think deeper.)

[@missmapleleaf]

@@gabrielvalentoniguelfi8945 do better my friend

[@Stockaholics]

You'd think this would all be fairly obvious with all of us being human and all, but for most men this takes a lifetime to figure out.

[@rorycalhoun1126]

"When your money runs LOW.....There they GO, there they GO, there they GO."

[@ericwilliams626]

When you forget about love, all that is left is respect. Once love is out of the equation, respect from someone is quite clear. Love is an illusion.

[@bangbangboogie2142]

Yes. And respect should come before love too

[@forwardpaunganwa4135]

100%

[@tiddybearkush]

Tell that to women because 99% don't understand what the "love phase" is...

[@ericwilliams626]

@@tiddybearkush Have them watch Forrest Gump then.

[@bernhardlangers778]

Funny thing about this: If we are talking about lack of social skills and lack of confidence, try working in retail. It forces you to work on these things on a daily basis if you want to be successful and provide good service. It can be quite helpful and you have a lot of different conversation partners to train on.

[@tiddybearkush]

How long until the woman realize that you just talk and talk with no deep knowledge or any skills.. I guess never because that's all it takes in this fu*Ked up society.

[@songoku9348]

What a load of bollocks. I work in retail and that isn’t true, if people don’t want to talk to you. You can’t force them.

[@DanTheMan221]

No money in basic retail work...

[@novosib9017]

5:56 "woman make INTENSE demands on men.....Thankyou...i now know why iam single at 30

[@CruceEntertainment]

You aren’t missing anything

[@rudy1999]

xD I'm 6'6 tall and single too almsot 31 yrs old

[@periculumesse1525]

If you are man, you are more attractive as you get a bit older. Woman marry up. As long as you have done things with your life. If you are just floating through, well good luck.

[@rudy1999]

@@antonmsk3401 I know it doesn't mean anything at all, it is just funny dudes say being short is the only reason they are single xD

[@carlmccoy662]

The demands become most intense in divorce

[@lmazufri]

Based on what you describe it is still based on wealth. The difference is that they select on long term wealth. A "rich by luck" May become poor at any time. However a poor useful can become rich later. Rarely women prefer poor useful over rich useful.

[@jesper9622]

I agree a rich useless can become poor anytime. But i think the women in the study kinda lied, "rich useless" should have been similarly valued as the "poor useful". The women just wanted to make a good impression of themselves.

[@nataliemunoz8600]

It depends...if the rich useful is a narcisist or a abuser, then no thanks.

[@bangbangboogie2142]

@@nataliemunoz8600 and if the woman is poor useless toss her to the curb too. Especially if shes below a 10

[@Amateur_Pianist_472]

@@jesper9622 why would rich useless be the same as poor useful? Your first sentence explains why it’s not. Useless also means boring.

[@emartinezr]

This is incredibly insightful. SO MUCH information in such a brief video. It's very easy to misunderstand or misinterpret this, but wow. 👌

[@luvslogistics1725]

Why men are funnier comedians? Because women say-“he makes me laugh!” Why are men strong, providers, because women say-“he makes me feel so safe!”

[@protorhinocerator142]

Women don't need to be funny to stand out. If I ask you to think of a female cast member of Friends, you most likely thought of Jennifer Anniston. She was the hottest but the least funny. Now think of a guy from Friends. Was it Chandler Bing? Yeah it was. And you weren't even thinking Matthew Perry because "Bing" is funnier. You remembered her real name, but you remembered his funny name.

[@sr3821]

@@protorhinocerator142 Joey Tribbiani is funnier, but yeah, you're right: I remember Jen Aniston's name, not Rachel.

[@rtphotos4691]

Not me. I rarely meet men who make me laugh. I make them laugh but the men who want to date me tend to be intelligent. It is sad to see men try to be funny because they believe that is how to attract women when that actually depends on the individual woman. A naturally funny man is wonderful. One who tries to be funny is boring.

[@protorhinocerator142]

@@rtphotos4691 Definitely. Guys who try too hard to be funny seem desperate. You weren't trying to crack any jokes until the hot girl entered the room. Don't be a stooge. At the highest tier, a genuinely funny guy can give a look, a smile, or a well-placed laugh at just the right time and make a joke without ever verbalizing it. They may just summarize it with a statement like "Indeed" or "Or in this case..." and you know what he means.

[@rtphotos4691]

@@protorhinocerator142 - yes, I've seen it where every one cringes over some dude who starts cracking jokes when they weren't just moments before. And to be the one they are showing off for is embarrassing. Everyone in the room can see their desperation. If they only *saw* the women they found attractive and asked themselves, "do I want to know this person?" life would be easier for everyone.

[@Vitone22]

A man once said to me... “if you want to be happy, stay single” he was happily married lol

[@elmerfudd6305]

Best advice ever..

[@bangbangboogie2142]

U sure he was happy to give such a truth? Lol

[@elyse443]

Wonder why he doesn’t just divorce his wife? He must be happy with his life.

[@arianalushtaku4329]

He should divorce her if he is not happy thats very easy

[@JonBandMiley]

Then he's a hypocrite.. since he's HAPPILY married.

[@mrbas5150]

Money, status and comfort. Without these a woman is unable to love.

[@goaldineyelife6291]

Boys do what you want the real ones will follow period

[@maureenvincent4414]

GET A BETTER BELT AND ROAD...then we will follow:)

[@theapexfighter8741]

@@maureenvincent4414 better. Let’s not get a better belt and road and do what we want. You DON’T have to follow.

[@jacksonsimon9009]

*I PRAY THAT ANYONE WHO READS THIS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE..* *SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE DON'T BECOME THAT WAY OVERNIGHT.* *WHAT MOST PEOPLE SEE AT A GLANCE-WEALTH,* *A GREAT CAREER,* *PURPOSE IS THE RESULT OF HARD WORK AND HUSTLE OVERTIME.*

[@williamsjames7954]

Yeah! I agree with you

[@sandralinda9820]

If you want to be successful have the mindset of the rich, spend less and invest More. Don't give up your dreams.

[@lindasandra8943]

That's very correct !! And that is why most of them end up losing they m o n e y to s c a m m e r s.

[@lindasandra8943]

Don't be in a haste to invest. Know what and who you are investing to and be sure that the person will deliver before investing.

[@lindasandra8943]

Learn and get the knowledge first before investing..

[@itkojecockot]

no, they don't want men with money...... just the money :D:D

[@OnlineSarcasmFails]

Lolol

[@Hipppogrifff]

Did you even watch the video? What you said is the polar opposite of the point made.

[@itkojecockot]

@@Hipppogrifff no the point is completely ridiculous..... Peterson says women choose men with skills to make money, not the guys who already have a lot of money...... that's a complete bullshit..... why would any woman waste time engaging with a guy who may make money someday, rather than a man who already has them...... what if the man with skills never becomes fortunate enough to make those money ? why would women risk THAT, if they can fuck someone who already has money ? there are many men in the world with great skills and education and they will never make any money...... if Peterson was right, you would see supermodels dating 25 year old BROKE graduates from MIT, not millionaires/billionaires...... I don't see that happening...... do you ?

[@frankyu6984]

@@itkojecockot the women were lying about not being attracted to only money because they didn't want to look shallow.

[@itkojecockot]

@@frankyu6984 yeah, but what's the point ? we already know that about them :D:D

[@87crimson]

Of course they would never say that out loud. They much rather say : "I want someone that has clear goals in life" of course by clear they mean career/money oriented. Someone aiming to be the best harmonica player ever sure as hell has clear goals...

[@hijodelaisla275]

Women can't resist a man who plays harmonica.

[@jstevens74]

This is interesting because one of the things that I tell people about myself is that I just want to be a more useful human.

[@hadishamson393]

The thing about asking women in surveys is that most of them would pick the politically correct answer, not what they desire. It would make them look bad in others eyes, if otherwise. Reputation & Social Status is very important to women, they don't want to be judged for their personal choices. For Men, it depends. The poor & rich useful guy is only chosen if they are also physically attractive.

[@leviathon2]

I have never had a long term relationship. I was always very thoughtful about how the world was vis-à-vis relationships and it just didn't stack up - empirically. That's not to say I wouldn't but my criteria are non negotiable and a women would have to measure up. Non have so far and that's fine. Young men pour enormous energy and resources at the dating game. But I observed that very many older married men are disatisfied with their situation (women too) and pour vast resources and energy into undoing what they had striven for years earlier. Now in my forties, all my peers are divorced, separated or in really bad places. They ask me how I ended up with a life that I always wanted and no stress or problems (of the relationship kind). My answer - I kept my eyes open and I paid attention. Mother nature is cunning and has a full box of thricks to get you (men) into a position where you are ultimately emasculated. Be smart, open your eyes and make wise decisions.

[@afe4452]

Same for women.👍

[@sokrechannel4217]

I see a problem here! One cannot rely on what women say, as they choose their words so they are put in the best possible light. Words are just one of woman's presentation facets, similar to clothes, hairdo, make up. One has to observe their actions.

[@idegbetegbendeguz4888]

You just debunked his whole ridiculous theory...

[@sttarch5150]

Young men: if a potential mate cares about a big engagement ring, has a suitcase full of jewelry, 30 pair of shoes or even contemplates a $1500 handbag, RUN!!!

[@maureenvincent4414]

Young women if you listen to this guy...RUN:)

[@holgerd5242]

@@maureenvincent4414 I think we found the golddigger.

[@maureenvincent4414]

@@holgerd5242 Sorry, old, retired and married. Husband both awesome and an asshole at the same time:)

[@lvgl_beginner]

Too late by than

[@sttarch5150]

@@juliavieira9398 sorry to hear that you are so shallow.

[@straycat1674]

Here’s the thing, they polled women On something like this, expecting them to answer completely honestly and to also be aware that they’re answering honestly. In other words, put them in a situation in real life and find out how often the majority of them make the same decisions that they say they would make, choosing the man they say they would choose.

[@simonstrba7686]

Even though those claims are based on hard data and many long-term studies, most women will never admit that this is what they want from a guy

[@maxshreck8353]

»If everyone rejects you there's probably something wrong» - indeed, the people you're trying to approach, that's what's wrong. Be yourself and get away from people who don't like you, you will never win their favour or be accepted by being someone you're not.

[@CR250RidR]

I disagree once they find out the useless guy has money they’re gonna try and milk it out of him ASAP.

[@deanmccrorie3461]

You didn’t listen. The study shows that the useless rich guy is already known to the women that he has money. There’s no ‘once the women find out’. They already know and reject him. This study pretty much squashed the mgtow movement. Exposing it as just a group of weak men.

[@eF154]

@@deanmccrorie3461 I'm gonna agree that women will see a man with money and diligently work to consume it all. If he's weak.... she consumes all his wealth. If he has a backbone+brain then she'll get angry and find the next victim while bashing him publicly over social media and among her like-minded "friends"

[@ThisNameIsBanned]

Classic SIMP , they pay and get discarded.

[@husher5142]

mentally unstable persons perhaps - on both sides.

[@lukamijic9549]

it is about the probability of leaving offspring behind for men....if a useless man has the money, he can have women but is still less likely to have a woman who is interested in something longterm....

[@williampennjr.4448]

Men judge woman by their looks while woman judge men by their job status. The big difference it that most woman have natural beauty if only they take care of themselves. Woman's standards on men take a lot more work to achieve.

[@kaberigomes2117]

This is true because evolution theory tells us, when humans lived in caves, men had the more difficult task of hunting and bringing food, while women only raised children. This is imbibed in our dna..

[@gvis3880]

.... until you see most women without make up.

[@based9]

Women can cheat with makeup, men can't.

[@CytherX]

@@based9 its ironic since men invented makeup and high heels for men back in the renaissance days

[@mijalheinrich4331]

@@kaberigomes2117 "Only raised children" - find the mistake!

[@hunchanchoc8418]

"The more you deviate from the averaged person, the less attractive you appear" - that doesn't bode well for me in the future: I have no tattoos or piercings, and have NO intention of getting any.

[@markanon8914]

You're good for now, less than half the people have such body modifications according to a study I just found. Might change though. On the other hand, if you average all tatoos, it's just a vague blur, a bit more on arms than face, so maybe you never really deviate...

[@hunchanchoc8418]

@@markanon8914 Phew! Thanks, Mark :-)

[@eaubert1]

I beg to differ on one point: if a man has a pension or any type of secured income (be it a lottery win or an inheritance paid out in monthly installments), the woman will consider him useful. A woman will not have much use for a well-meaning man who can hardly make ends meet working for a charity. Apart from that, I agree with Jordan Peterson.

[@dewsplash]

Its refreshing listening to someone speak only what they believe to be true. No agenda. Just a never-ending desire to learn and grow.

[@SomeGuy-cq3yv]

Thank you for these animations.

[@nortesur9504]

The more I learn about women the most I love my parrot. Thanks Mr Jordan. A fan from Colombia South America.

[@jwjeieikwnwwn]

to be with a woman you don't have to be rich unless you want a super model but if you want a pretty girl you just have to be middle class

[@Dr.Housenbergstark]

Fun fact: Answering yes doesn't take 6.5 minutes!

[@TonyTheTGR]

The "dating site guy" referred to in this video, IIRC, was Chris Coyne, founder/designer of OKCupid.

[@tobiasarturwetzel2840]

Good to know

[@alber.a1232]

- Short response: Yes - Long response: Anyone doubts about it?

[@phetogomoteane3967]

I love JP but I have to disagree on some points. For starters the rich useless guy will always attract more women than the poor useful guy. Always. Money is usually at the top of the list for women. Lottery winners are a good example. No lottery winner, useless or not, has ever struggled to attract women. It’s not all JP’s fault though, the entire experiment is flawed. One thing we all know is that there’s a difference between what women say they want and what they respond to. Ask a woman if she attracted to arrogant guys and she’ll say hell no, she prefers sweet humble guys. Ask the same woman how many of here exes are sweet and humble, and she’ll start laughing at her own BS.

[@renenetatm8222]

maybe that's why they are exes? if you start to see big character flaws, you move on and search for someone better, no?

[@phetogomoteane3967]

Very true, but someone better is hardly ever someone completely opposite of what you wanted before. Hence most people’s exes have an awful lot in common. I think we can all agree that a woman who has dated a rich man in the past finds it difficult to date a poor guy, even though the rich ex is in her past for a reason.

[@eajinabi]

This is the assumption that a woman is the prize in all this whereas in reality the man is the prize. If a woman seeks a useful man then said man needs to find a worthy woman of his usefulness

[@AnitaYadav-jp2gz]

It's a lot more complicated than that. Back in the 1900s women were reading about being a better wife and talking care of the husband because of the patriarchal social construct(men were responsible for everything be it money or security) but now those things are provided by the state and women no longer "need" men in the way they used to so the women became the prize. The technological and social development resulted in women being independent of men but in time they will also release men of those needs(bots/invitro children/men looked at like parents and such) but it will take time, a lot of time, but we will get there.

[@DsDs-nu7nw]

@@AnitaYadav-jp2gz it may get there. But women will need men more than men will need women. Anytime in history any time in future. Just beacause in 20s men and women are driven by hormonal impulses doesn't mean game remains the same once a women crosses 35. As long as sex ratio is equal, Men remain in demand even in 50s. Where as hardly anyone asks a woman after 35. Cat ladies are perfect examples.

[@o_0264]

@@DsDs-nu7nw no man after 40s are not worth enough too . They go bald the testosterone levels are dropped and chances for him to get a woman pregnant are also less . But yeah in terms of wealth he may can get one if he'd been working his ass off for years.

[@teresaskitchen2020]

My husband was terribly broken financially when I first met him. But he was a super nice person and intelligent. I trusted in his intelligence and goodness and married him. His finances improved greatly after marriage and living with him for the past 16 years has been amazing and blissful.

[@arkadiuszjandylewski152]

Yes, because money means survival.

[@praiseenterprise8605]

To find out what women actually think you have to hear what they say when having unrecorded conversations amongst themselves

[@JonBandMiley]

That and pay attention to what they actually do and pay close attention on their reactions.

[@Coolwater83]

So to make a long story short...be good looking, be intelligent, and be hard working

[@jumhed994]

If you're not good looking, be hygienic, eat healthily and work out, dress well.

[@theboogyman7158]

Or simply have money. When they put surveys they wont get real answers. Put them to real life tests and then you will see that the rich get all the women no matter how useful they are

[@nicknonya2198]

No, no one likes smart people, just people that they can use.

[@fixer1140]

Basically, be Tony Stark with Thor's body.

[@elyse443]

No. Be useful, and have high capacity for sharing. The women preferred the poor useful guy to the rich useless one.

[@johnflorio3052]

Women want an ATM with a heartbeat - and the heartbeat annoys them.

[@travisgodbold8899]

It's not so much money but security, many go for someone they can trust, and this usually a person with an established career, bank account, college degrees, etc.

[@SuperAykt]

I think it is kind of wrong. Being rich matters. It is not just my opinion but if you read a few evolutionary psychology books you can see there are numerous reasons why women choose a particular man. One of the reasons is of course being rich. If you are not rich you can't take care of your woman and give a good life to your potential children. It also depends if you live in a rich country or not.

[@Chief_AR]

Man with money? You probably mean money

[@korycassel5197]

There's also a time shift that happens for women. When you're young, your attraction for sex based on a balance of appearance and personal 'vibe' is more important, as women get older the balance shifts to more husband/father qualities if she wants a family. If they were 'dusties' you were probably playing in a league of attractiveness/personality that you thought you deserved. If they were 'broke', you either saw some potential for future growth, or you were just not serious about husband/father qualifications being on the younger and carefree side of this shift. They call it the 'epiphany phase' in the late twenties when reality sets in that 30 year old you can't get as good a man as 24 year old you could and it's only going to get worse every passing year. It's when women realize that THEIR money, accomplishments, life experience, etc...don't compare to youth, beauty, fertility as attractive qualities to men. The TV show 'Friends' lied. Joey, Chandler, and Ross aren't just dying to wife you up when you're 30, have a great career, and are ready to settle down in a responsible childrearing marriage after giving all your youthful passion and sexual explorations to a bunch of other dudes.

[@165-ngothuytien2]

sadly

[@maxwellspeedwell2585]

"Most women just want a decent man, who has his s**t together and who is sensible, reliable and hard working." Maybe, but I'm on earth. Not that way here....

[@antonionunez4408]

Lmao!

[@FurArmoredBear]

You just figured your not on earth?😂

[@2639263926392639]

Rich and useful makes sense. So does poor and useful, in theory. But in the same way that if a woman wants a tall, rich, slim, unmarried, younger man its a fraction of a percent. Is it similar then to assume a woman who is attracted to poor, useful, young guy is also a fraction of a percent? Because I work with a lot of useful guys. They do seem to get forgotten about the moment some danger and disposable income shows up temporarily. So is a loyal, intelligent, younger woman prepared to play a long game and help build skills, wealth and a family together.... one quarter of one percent of the adult female population? Or is it less?

[@mgtow6683]

Never make a contract with a person if that person will benefit from breaking the contract.

[@arabionknights3410]

Women will always fine very rich men attractive.

[@flowstate2394]

What their instincts dont account for is the incredible potential of learning and evolving over your lifetime. Maybe we as men, the ones that overcome their weakness and problems should be using natural selection to pick more compassionate and moraly right women.

[@tomlewis9776]

Lol. Men biggest weakness is we fall in love with women. Women greatest strength is they fall in love with what a man can do for them.😂

[@Alpha-jk3be]

No Jordan.., i’ve seen lots of stupid rich people with stupid beautiful women and intelligent beautiful women... Scarface: you get the money, you get the power.. then you get the woman..

[@gu3sswh075]

Alpha 119 why did you even watch the video just disagree with everything it says??

[@Alpha-jk3be]

@@gu3sswh075 Coz i like listening to his views.... but should i agree with everything He say?

[@peraelawey]

exactly, wrong take

[@notloki3377]

Lol with such great cited sources such as "muh own experience" and "a fictional gangster" how on earth can anyone not take you seriously? You should get awarded an honorary phd into your research on interpersonal dynamics.. you sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. You should be making this video, fuck jordan, this guy has ideas!!

[@juliusholstein2376]

@@notloki3377 lmao

[@janiceball8431]

A women is attracted to a can-do man. Genuine humble confident. This kind of being usually has his act together. Nothing can keep him down.

[@esther.6965]

Women want love but since men don't know how to give us that.....we go for the money.

[@pvn2474]

Sounds exactly as what I've experienced in my life. At last some common sense.

[@traderjoe2140]

Now you know why.

[@flowerdoyle3749]

We all want someone who see's us for the multifaceted beings we are, warts and all. Unconditional love is the big prize, however it has to be a 2 way street.

[@eemelikujala4012]

Amen brother

[@periculumesse1525]

Yes, but you won't get the unconditional love, if you are man without money. Get serious. The hypergamy is a foundational trait for women. Not some whim. It is hardcore biology. Go down in social status and you may get that love.

[@helenamoniqueclarke8135]

Highly sought after/controversial people need partners who can ,to some extent, protect them whether it be through status ,money ,and/or power. For women, in a society dominated by men ,secretly or otherwise, it is important to have a male with some kind of ability to protect you.💯

[@hijodelaisla275]

I live in North America and it is decidedly not a society dominated by men.

[@madeasimmons9746]

Yes, women love money, not men

[@lawontrial]

It's about having a partner, someone who adds to your quality of life instead of detracting from it. I wasted a lot of time in my twenties on the wrong man (the poor, useless category). About 90% of his problems were completely avoidable, he could have had it all but he didn't want to take responsibility. It was stressful. I grew up thinking that taking someone's job or income into account when considering to date them would be morally wrong but it's about self love and self respect.

[@boystobusiness]

Yes you want men to add to your life but think about it if a man is better than you, taller, stronger, richer. How are you then adding as much value to him as he added to you??