Jordan Peterson Explains Jung's Animus and Anima

original source: • 2015 Personality Lectu...
...and why to shut up when confronted with someone who is possessed by the animus.
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[@edcrfvtgbyhnujmikolpqazwsx]

After reading about this all evening and just getting progressively more confused, it finally occurred to me to check with Jordan Peterson. I'm so glad I did. Very clear explanation.

[@Comewithmeifuwant2live]

Jung is very difficult to read... he's just so way beyond most people's comprehension.

[@hueytlahtoani1304]

Baita intelectual

[@nsayyed5469]

yeah

[@AntonDoesMusic]

4:06 Peterson giving his future self advice before his interview with Cathy Newman

[@Sandbar3D]

That's incredibly interesting now that I think about it. How he can manage all these things and back them up with knowledge even, what?, ten years earlier? proves that almost nothing about what he's done is luck and that is incredible.

[@flabbybum9562]

Brilliant synthesis between Jungian theory and modern psychotherapy.

[@vixenvalenzuela]

I could listen to him all day everyday! I learn so much about myself consistently because of the way he articulates this wisdom

[@rammingspeed5217]

Yes . So on that note, would you be willing to show me your hairy beaver?

[@timwestchester9557]

Why does Jordan look like he's going to try to sell me a used car?

[@gilbertgibbs4305]

BECAUSE HE'S LITERALLY THE USED CAR SALESMAN OF PHILOSOPHY

[@tomalcolm]

Because everyone needs a beater. Now clean up your room.

[@joshuahillel2450]

He was going thru severe depression by then (as a condition he has genetically, partly as an allergy), and was way over his weight. He was suffering like you have no idea. He's been thru a lot of fasting and diet and doesn't suffer from it anymore, says he.

[@DavidJeromePutnam]

Yes, you're right! He's selling Jung's ideas like "used cars". Great analogy, Tim!

[@andersbjorkman8666]

He is an excentric professor and dont care how he looks xD he lives his life for knowledge, it is his purpose

[@kelowna737]

Dr. Peterson, you nailed it again. Every time I listen to you I gain clarity. Thank you

[@ralatwii3393]

no you dont

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[@daisy8284]

Bite-sized Philosophy thank you for all you do. These clips are very appreciated.🙂

[@evgenykandybko]

Your clips are what got me into listening to Peterson, keep up the quality work!

[@kolesawthebrave3565]

Thank you! We appreciate the lengths you're going to to give us bite-sized philosophy!

[@mattcvand204]

Bite-sized Philosophy just don't ever stop completely and we good😉

[@londoncalling7895]

Bite-sized Philosophy I've shown these clips to friends who are amazed by this knowledge. Your time and efforts are truly reaching many people. Much appreciated. ♥ Knowledge IS power

[@alyriatutoring5697]

That last statement...I needed to hear that 3 weeks ago--I had a voravious argument that I later learned, I did everything I could to avoid, and I eventually caved in and bit back.

[@_VISION.]

You see this a lot on reddit with those really long comment threads. I got sucked into one of those. I'm pretty certain she was a woman and I could tell the argument was not started to end in understanding. It was simply to wrap us into inescapable argument

[@dtjackson1647]

"The animus is the male inside the female." You know you're on a video with sophisticated people watching when you can't find a that's-what-she-said joke about this anywhere in the comments.

[@alexandreparent5754]

Nice profile pic :)

[@vixenvalenzuela]

DT Jackson hahaha so true

[@rubengastelum7212]

That's what she said!! Lol ha ha...

[@rubengastelum7212]

@RENE OBELE eventually you'll get there maybe if you learning now when you're old you'll be able to remember or not

[@dtjackson1647]

@@alexandreparent5754 Right back at you!

[@hardeepmatharu4324]

im possessed by the anima, for a guy this translates to being a 'nice guy'. Men these days (myself included) gotta reclaim our masculinity in this feminised world. The Mythopoetic men's movement is a good thing. This isn't any political bullshit. No Gender Wars. Just men reclaiming their yang - so important. Daoist perspective's are so important.

[@seanbarry1757]

Why specifically would you want to reclaim your masculinity? How would it benefit you?

[@AnOminouslyAnonymousAnomaly]

👆👆👆

[@RKrk-jj2li]

No worries. Now I got something to ponder on my walk to the corner store.

[@jacobhiller6731]

I recently had a dream where I believe i confronted my Anima head on. I had no idea about this philosophy before the dream yet I was and am a JP fan. This is mind blowing. Things in my inner world are starting to click with each other.

[@Terkaza]

I agree that the dreams and the way of thinking of the anima as "yourself, but feminine", a sub personality is more exact. I think that is the real definition of anima here. I don't think Carl Jung thought of "gender identity" when mentioning anima, it was not something you was "in entirety". It's more of a "side" of yourself, a subpersonality, but surely an important one. That's why I think i merges with you most of the time but sometimes express itself in moments you wouldn't expect. Like dreams, or interactions that suddenly makes you anima "pops out" and make you act a different way you would have "normally". I think it is a part of the Self in a sense that you can say that it is YOU but not YOU at the same time, whereas if it was something related to gender dysphoria you would rather say it is YOU and you reject the "actual" YOU. I sometimes catch some of my thoughts that are like that. The anima is the "feminine side" that you would like to express without shame as much as your "normal" side (animus), the key being a balance between those. Carl Jung also said that the encounter and the awareness of the anima was the masterpiece of an individual's developpement. On the wikipedia page on Analytical Psychology, there is in particular the following : "Often, when people ignore the anima or animus complexes, the anima or animus vies for attention by projecting itself on others. This explains, according to Jung, why we are sometimes immediately attracted to certain strangers: we see our anima or animus in them. Love at first sight is an example of anima and animus projection." I think it talks to everyone. That's why I think the fact that I feel immediately attracted to a specific type of girl, it is more or less the projection of my anima on them, strongly reinforced also by the fact that I like to imagine being this side of my Self, while I also don't have any kind of thoughts about "gender identity" or identifying to a girl, and I also equally like my "usual" side. I think this means that this is the unconscious me that I have yet to completely "assimilate" to be both sides at the same time, and thus reaching the "truest" version of myself.

[@baussier134]

Since I started to see my dreams characters as archetypes, they have become much more understandable

[@seanfothergill4039]

@@Terkaza about love at first sight.. I’m a man, and so I am to be attracted to a female that projects my feminine side?

[@dinospumoni5611]

This is not philosophy by the way, since you're unfamiliar I want to make it clear this is extremely irrelevant in the philosophical world, not only irrelevant but ridiculed. Check out an introductory philosophy textbook or the Stanford encyclopedia of philosophical or the internet encyclopedia of philosophy for actual scholarship that's worth your time.

[@di3486]

There is a modern phenomena where women have very developed animus and neglected anima. That's kind of my case (even though I am working on that) but it is a very classic example of the "liberated modern woman"

[@Tidoublemy]

Is being a slut really the pinnacle of a highly developed Animus? I would argue that modern women have a completely warped and twisted Animus. Many turn into miserable single mothers who endlessly ride the c*ck carousel for the rest of their days delusionally thinking that they'll find prince charming who wants to take care of someone else's children. No thanks! They eventually come to the very harsh realization that they were sold a false bill of goods when they inevitably end up impoverished and alone.

[@opinionday0079]

the animus is the unconscious Male side of the woman not the conscious female side.

[@NotRegret]

A woman does not have an anima. The relationship a woman has is between her ego (what is your understanding of yourself) and her animus. Jung's wife wrote a superb essay on the animus that deals with your subject. You can find it in the book "Two Essays" by Emma Jung.

[@bananewane1402]

@@opinionday0079 I have a conscious masculine side and an unconscious feminine side. I look for feminine traits in others to complete myself.

[@bananewane1402]

@@NotRegret Well I guess I'm not a woman, because I've seen my anima reflected in other people.

[@joshuahillel2450]

The anima and the animus are part of the collective unconscious (following Jung of course), they're not part of the shadow (which is an aspect of the personal unconscious). So the shadow doesn't "break up in anima and animus". THey're extremely difficult concepts Jung himself thought few people would be able to understand, in fact they're alchemical symbols of the total man, the primordial androgyne. I'm not convinced at all of its psychological interpretation, of its place in the unconscious. In fact I'm pretty convinced by Jung's idea that a certain conception of the unconscious (viewed as the human soul in its greatness, vastness, and totality) has a direct parallel - is in fact what alchemy deals with. But I'm not at all convinced Jung went to the core of it when it concerns animus and anima, at least not at an articulate level.

[@NoahSteckley]

I've certainly seen both of these phenomena.

[@davidthomspson9771]

brilliant...learning more every day.thanks

[@ChasingYonci]

So incredible. This is a huge confirmation!

[@michaelcostello3460]

Such an amazing video

[@679goodboy]

OMG this is amazing was searching for something all day and could not understanding this now i kind of get it yeaaa

[@roxanne4820]

the thumbnail though

[@doxemanticorn3919]

Animu anima tiddies

[@taxslave593]

Who the fuck does this guy think he is

[@ElenarMT]

If I could live to have 1% of the dignity, presence of mind, wisdom and knowledge of this man, I would count myself fortunate indeed

[@crose7412]

@ElenarMT Don't sell yourself nor be unduly timid.

[@dfredankey]

@@crose7412 nice

[@Shogunatesensui]

You can build your own, by learning continuously, do not ever stop learning, and that's enough reason to count your every day existence as fortunate because of the opportunity to learn, to grow not just only as a person but also as a human being, so keep learning mate, and live fortunately.

[@atomnous]

Very curious how this manifests in homosexuality, bisexuality and transgenderism. I think the theory holds some merits to it, but is still incomplete in that regard. The principle might be universal, but the path an individual took with it is more variable than what's already laid out.

[@ShaktipatSeer2]

I've been thinking about that recently.. I really think a good chunk of what's going on with the huge popularity of transgenderism in young people is related to anima possession for sure. Quite literally. I wonder what Jung would say about that he would probably be really concerned at how young people are getting locked into their opposite gender identity.. They're going to have an extremely view of their psyche at a time when they're in their formative years.

[@ivywoodxrecords]

@@ShaktipatSeer2 Less-rigid gender structures in the pervading culture probably lead to a diversification of archetypal manifestations - so, you have the anima, the animus, the animus delta, animus omega, anima +, etc etc etc.

[@tripzville7569]

The best way to deal with Animus is to shut up lol, hard to do, but as usual great advice from Jordan Peterson .

[@kieransimpson4965]

My shadow is the other way round. I disowned my more masculine traits at the expense of the feminine ones I learned and that were safer for me to have when younger.

[@kieransimpson4965]

@@ametrinequeen1714 😍 haha

[@richardbedford6657]

The shadows he refers to is the subconscious. The anima is suppressed and left there by the animus. Their relationship strained, she pushes her pain into his conscious mind. He feels it, but does not know why. He attempts to cope at his level with surrogates. This helps him but frustrates his anima. She wants him to find her, not some facsimile! Romeo where for art thou?

[@mahdidi96]

Im sort of confused with all this. As a male, my waking conscious mind is naturally aware of the animus? Seems to make sense since I am a heterosexual male. If my animus suppressed my anima, then is my masculinity too rigid?

[@richardbedford6657]

It helped me to realize that regardless of my sex, I am just as much my mother as I am my father. That both are vital to me. Most of us have been brainwashed into discounting one and valuing the other. The best course is to value both equally.@@mahdidi96

[@MissPopuri]

Hmm, I wonder if the Romeo & Juliet reference at the end is a clue that deeper study in this area is a greater tragedy in itself. I’ve seen someone mention universals versus singulars in this regard, and we would do better to incorporate ourselves into whatever world we inhabit by recognizing a man as a father, husband, brother and a woman as a mother, wife, sister. It especially helps in combatting the sin of lust.

[@911nanothermite]

Excellent..!!

[@londoncalling7895]

my Anima is really pissed off ...

[@farflung.studio8334]

The last part what it’s interesting, animus wins by starting an argument, I don’t understand this concept fully but seems like there is an archetypes for that.

[@NikoSitaras]

The last line of these videos is always such a mic drop

[@DivoGo]

Where can I find the complete episode of this lecture. Thank you!

[@robweeks1453]

In your animus ... thank you. I'll show myself out.

[@spikeep6141]

Yes, Dear.

[@Ammmericanpie]

The Anima really is like the Apple of Eden. Don't bite more, than you can chew. Very valuable source, which must be handled very carefully aswell.

[@Hellbunnyfelicia]

Where is the rest of the video?

[@floman0788]

Anyone here after seeing Paul Thomas Anderson's and Thom Yorke's 'Anima'? Dr. Peterson's insights provide some food for thought.

[@SelenaSea]

👋😊 Hi @floman0788, four years later. Yes! I just watched _Anima._ What a fascinating film! I love how Thom is among the sleepers on the train until waking up to his unconscious anima, represented by his wife Dajana. It's beautifully directed. There's a clip at around 10 minutes into the video where Thom & Dajana lay their heads together and place their hands on each other's foreheads, mimicking the yin-yang symbol and creating a touching depiction of the Anima & Animus. ☯️ Another musical artist who created art around this topic is Peter Gabriel in _Blood of Eden._ 🍎

[@averyvolk3355]

Close your eyes and listen to Kermit explaining Jung.

[@tuekg]

What if you yourself are possessed by the animus? What is the best solution then?

[@nite1414]

This happens with me in Physics and Math tuition and it is very frustrating for the tuition teachers to get me out of the possession.

[@hipster5555]

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ANIME

[@austinsmith2867]

*In walks Cathy Newman for her interview with JP*

[@chiquynh9038]

I'm still trying to catch up with Map Of The Soul: Persona's theories. But my last 0.001 brain cell isn't cooperating

[@hananettoukoki4516]

I think the persona is the side of the personality u want to show to ppl. It's like what society wants from u. And bts manifestate the persona in mots: persona, where all songs r happy and bright. Just like ppl want them to be

[@multiskype]

it's incredible how much he helped me learn in just 4:25 min, great video!

[@TheMindProjection]

When I bring out my pen and notepad to scribble down some notes, this man and his lectures are what I fear most.

[@oronk60]

I wish I learnt about Yung and Freud earlier.

[@TheABCD3912]

What exactly are second rate futile emotions

[@ponywee]

Probably teenage angst, go listen to some dinosaur jr you'll see

[@dantefernandodantezambrano7910]

Nevertheless, we must not ignore our anima and animus. Though there is a risk to be possessed by them; we must confront them to realize what they want from us. In the anima case a man should ask his anima why does she have such a particular feeling and/or emotion which Jung called the Objetivation of the Anima. The more a man asks his anima about what she feels, the better it will be for him to understand her. In the animus case a woman should reflect why does she have a particular opinion about something, and moreover why is she so intended to generate such an argument for no particular reason. The more a woman reflects about her opinions; the better it will be for her to understand what she expects from others as well as to fulfills her own needs.

[@feenster1163]

1:55... me and that guy coughed at the same time and it freaked me out lol

[@robertimmanuel577]

I think you're hallucinating

[@clericknight7304]

For me it was somehow backwards. I want to say this In case this helps anyone reading. As a mani have not developed my masculinity inorder to handle the emotions of the anima. Seeing this as a problem will give us the path I can finally see I need to take personally.

[@loopular1]

It's really frustrating! I'm here because I'm trying to understand the concept of animus possession and I just can't get my head round it!

[@quinnrsligo]

0:00 - 2:52 Anima nested in the Shadow

[@CowieThomas1997]

We all have the opposite gender within us (mother/father etc.) Bit like Oedipus/Elektra but for your gender rather than sexuality. Also there is the sexual energy scale.

[@nati4112]

Alguien que le ponga subtitulos en español por favor!!!!

[@toddmichaeljohnson7139]

Check out Anima on Netflix. 👍🏻

[@DickslapMcgee]

I’m not sure why but this camera angle really bothers me

[@jennysmith9591]

Dickslap, I think the camera is practically shoved in his face, as well as appearing unstable, and the bright lights could render one a bit queasy. Kind of like being inebriated.

[@nagendrakumarcr]

The repressed memories or unacknowledged ones keeps accumulating in the unconscious mind sometimes they form their own queue based on their primordial relationship. Repressed memories are erotic in its nature. A Male is aroused by looking/talking/touching a female because it accessed the repressed unconscious aide of him. It makes him and whole for few moments. It is like female has just a key, all the other things happen in himself & vice versa for female.This is a functional way of marriage sexual relationship institution developed over the history. The root of anima in man is mother, the most basic instinct is breast. It stores in the deepest unconscious mind. Over the period it is repressed. In adolescence, it can be seen that boys usually have breast fantasy. Jung says, overly developed anima causes man insist fantasy/ anyother perverted sexual disorders under developed anima causes difficulty in bonding relationships.

[@goldelinesommer734]

Lmao I just searched up, anima also used to mean 'the irrational part of the soul' and animus 'the rational part of the soul'

[@bogdan4148]

Why he no explain radioman song

[@kwidevidsb8127]

Why this man sounds like Kermit the Frog

[@igornowicki29]

Sooo, he just predicted Cathy Newman interview, years ago before it happened.

[@MelMelMel]

Not predicted. If what Jung found about the animus/anima is correct, then it simply would've been the course of nature.

[@AadhiraiSathyavathi]

This part of Philosophy was taught, (in the ancient times so to say), precisely during the transitional phase, where scholars, be it male scholars (or) female scholars, When they were biologically(their respective Anatomies) ready to enter Marital/Matrimonial Relationships' to undertake familial responsibilities in producing children, parental participation in nurturing their respective children, the supposed psychological/mental/emotional barriers which might affect the Male & Female psyche before-during-after copulation, important to note, until then, the scholars were used to practicing Celibacy. "Sex", in other words, a physical relationship between a Man & a Woman, learning the "Art of Making Children" was considered sacred and sanctimonious. p.s., storks never door delivered human babies in picnic baskets!

[@baussier134]

What about beta males which usually have a feminine personality. Not saying about affeminate or gay, but feminine. Compassive, submissive and no assertive. Is this a takeover from the anima?

[@CrimsonHybrid]

Is... Is it strange that I see my Animus as a separate, developed person or character residing in my head?

[@genevievegracia9106]

I think it’s a sign that you are extremely self aware, which isn’t a bad thing at all. It’s a very strange feeling when it manifests itself. I can hear it as if it is someone else, but the words are coming out of my mouth. What’s cool about being able to see it and identify it is that your conscious mind can intervene and take control much faster and easier than someone who is completely unaware.

[@r_rahul_dash]

Wow👏👏

[@abhinavdas98]

True

[@francesgaia4649]

Why focus on the Negative! The ANIMA has inspired Poets, Writer, and Artists to create major Works of Art! Dante's DIVINE COMEDY was inspired by Beatrice, his Anima. BTW, the pronunciation of the Latin word ANIMA is like Ahnima, not Enima.

[@Tradex420]

I dont get it. Someone explain please.

[@rred8674]

Each person is essentially two halves, each male has a feminine nature and each female has a masculine nature. For men, their feminine nature is called the anima. For women, it's the animus.

[@michaelcostello3460]

Every man has an inner goddess and every woman has an inner God

[@Dudeguy217]

I don't know if shutting up is always the right move... if you can carefully avoid arguing for something you don't believe (and don't get too annoyed in the process haha) then an animus-possessed person might consider your perspective, or at least leave you alone.

[@prateekjain3296]

@4:06 😂😂

[@bonitaramsingh]

With his charateristic immoderation for logical consciousness forged by causal realities of the nature, Jung 'adroitly' plugged in the tenet of occult Harmetic emerald tablet (of 7 laws) into the collective unconscious by using semantic sophistry. His 'Anima and Animus' typology comes the law of polarity and gender. Jung has an unscientific agenda at hand (not a malevolent one though).

[@kolosamosti]

is he dressed white and gold or blue and black?

[@trevor_pruett]

Nice.

[@femkegrundmann7556]

Are there any groups I could join for like minded people because i feel a bit lonely at times. I'd really like to join a group where people talk about psychology and development and ideas in general😊 I want to find my group of people

[@chrissparrowhawk]

If I may. Reading more of this and other related subjects is a good start. Issues have and still do arise when an individual seeks out others of like mind and only others of like mind to settle in a group. In group mindedness by its very nature excludes all who aren't in the group and it is this that is already dividing the world into groups who do not relate to each other. We self exclude in this process and mark ourselves as one of a group. We arent one of a group however but the ultimate minority, the individual. Seek out what makes you, an individual, into a better individual because as a better individual you will in all probability see the positive in other individuals and thus, as an individual, will have and want to take responsibility for your thoughts and actions in the world as an individual in this time and in this era. This action removes all excuses and historical reference and is the hard road to individual truth and it frees you from possession by those who are group minded and bent on calamity calling it motivation and shaping things to fit their version of truth. Read, read and read. If you read, you will be in the best of all possible groups of unrelated individuals whose collective knowledge will serve you well and better than any group can hope. Everyone feels lonely at times and even large groups cannot alleviate that feeling but knowledge can and probably will. Don't look for the like minded, look for the truth. Like Minded just results in the same people saying the same things in the same way which is the antithesis of freedom. Reading great books can extend your reach to understanding yourself and how you, as an individual, relate to the world whereas like mindedness in all probability does the opposite. Every person you will meet in life will suffer hurt, pain, anxiety and eventually they will die, why would you want to be anything but kind to them in the meantime? So, there's you, a small and tiny individual and there is the world, a huge and complicated monster full of snakes. Reading will help you realise that there is more to you, the individual, than you currently know. Take responsibility for your own actions, aim for the highest good, put your family together, help your community and friends, pick up your burden willingly and help those less able, grow the hell up and take on the truth as it reveals itself through reading. Most importantly, wish this for everyone. You are not a group, you are not a race, you are not a religion and you are not a culture. You are the ultimate minority, an individual. Now, get to the business of becoming a better individual and stop hiding in group identities. Go now and be well.

[@femkegrundmann7556]

@@chrissparrowhawk Thank you so much for your response sparrow! I really appreciate the insight, maybe I also didnt give context. I have read books, and I continually read. I would just like to meet new people who have the same interests and have read the same books so we can exchange ideas and e.g I could ask someone else's opinion on carl Jung's beyond good and evil 🤷‍♀️ We are naturally social people and I would love to connect with people from different countries too. Also, I do not have a lot of friends and the ones I have right now are not avid readers even if I encourage them to journey with me. But besides going into that, the above is what I mean. Again i agree with what you say, but i would also like to connect with more people who want to self improve or are on the journey of. Thanks for the comment again.

[@chrissparrowhawk]

@@femkegrundmann7556 Depending on where you live, one idea I've use with some success is to advertise locally either online or even better, in a library if you have one near you, that's where people seeking out decent literature usually end up and most libraries allow for discussion requests, try that. I'll talk to anyone, absolutely anyone about anything and everything but that's a more Socratic on the ball type of discussion that does yield good results regardless of the outcome if you aren't easily offended and you shouldn't be if the aim is to grasp. I liked Beyond Good And Evil, that nobody gets away with anything, ever. As for friends and perhaps counting them according to number in one sense, I Have three constant friends which believe me is a whole bunch of friends when the subject is being itself but I also have lots of acquaintances who are an outright challenge to everything I say and do and I value both sets. Talking to strangers is surprisingly informative, especially men who will have little issue with discounting anything you have to offer with low resolution explanations of why your existence on earth would better served if you spent more of it in the kitchen but there's learning in that attitude too because if want to attend to a decent garden you also have to deal with the snakes therein. The list goes on but I'm even boring myself now. Dr Peterson has a site called ThinkSpot which has some phenomenal contributors to it from all over the world and it's a good idea to contend with folks who are perhaps more intelligent than we are, it certainly does no harm. There are many other sites like this and what's good about them is that, when presenting your work, getting it up to scratch is probably 90 percent of the deal and that alone is a self teaching tool which I find invaluable. However you decide to start a discussion group, to start it is what's important, to believe that the subject matter which requires such attention is worth the small risk of rejection in some sense. But, who cares about that, right? Truth is worth sacrifice and Moral truth is worth sacrificing everything. Postmodernism has reared its head in much of the worlds seats of learning, you and I are it's target so, pick up the burden of what it takes to be a proper being in this world and get to it. That's what I'm doing and it is brutal but I can't think of anything better to do. Also, Happy New Year!

[@femkegrundmann7556]

@@chrissparrowhawk Really really great talking to you sparrow! I appreciate the time you took to comment. I'll definitely take your advice. And yes I def think the socratic method is worth the try and the approach I'll take. I generally enjoy hearing peoples stories as well so it suits me well. Also, I am from Namibia, a small country in the South of Africa. No proper libraries here I found. Online I've found is a good medium to meet different people with gems of insight - heck this how we are talking so great. Lastly,Thank for the recommendation on Dr.JPs site, I'll definitely have a look at it. Happy new year to you too Sparrow!

[@paulscottfilms]

I liked the old philosophy and archetype talks and lectures like this. I was unhappy that the Media cornered Jordan in the feminist bile and antagonism that soon came. As a note on this a fellow called Joseph Campbell also had great talks on archetypes in the fifties and sixties. As many of these classroom lectures unspoiled by the idiot Media people [ especially BBC ] the better.

[@nogrammer]

This lecture is old, Jordan became a different person when he gained his popularity and started debating children with coloured hair in collages. He went redpill, and delved into topics beyond his degrees and personal knowledge. Everything the "media" did and said to him is his fault. Some things turned out to be true considering Jordan was institutionalized not too long ago. He gets wackier by the year.

[@T2D2024i]

did the video end with him saying bitches be crazy ignore them? lmao

[@jennysmith9591]

My God I think he did. I"m so glad you called out the douchebaggery. Thanks.

[@tobynorris9259]

I think there's some truth to that. Sometimes a women goes try to 'rock the boat' so to speak. The man's boat then, must not be pushed over (he cannot allow it to happen)...he must not be possessed by the anima

[@Ryansghost]

This guy should be in advertising. I've seen him talking before, as he enthusiastically strives to recreate Christianity by abstract thought. You do not want this man turning to crime... or POLITICS!

[@nogrammer]

Last part is too late, JBP became ultra political in the past 3 years. He's a psychologist yet you see videos of interviews where he's going on and on about politics and economics, again he's a psychologist.

[@ralatwii3393]

light can only be appreciated where darkness exist. I just explained his 4.25 min video in 8 words. To many unnecessary words. A true teacher will use the minimum required to relay information.

[@russgrimes5531]

You can meet the anima/animus on DMT

[@SSStroger]

Why am I getting Meatloaf vibes from the dear Dr.? lol

[@iboremytherapist]

my ex-fiancée used to start arguments out of sport, for her own amusement.

[@batterknife7397]

Im a woman, my animus is too possesive because my anima is weak and ashamed of, i cant find a way to heal my trauma

[@MADOCHOGRINGO]

theres a fuck ton of animus going on in social media

[@asfdghkjxzcvnbm2580]

came up with a few animus possessed females in my life, NOT PLEASANT

[@elmtree33]

Lol...please elaborate.

[@univision6594]

its good a man to have some anima otherwise he will have no feelings .

[@baussier134]

And to a woman have some animus otherwise she will have no rationality. Thats interesting.

[@alejandramarquez6804]

Omg jajaja he describes me. I am woman. And I fight for anything and I love to fight. Verbally of course. Not violent but like any small thing bothers. Jajajajajajajaja. I am eeeevil :D. But now I am having therapy though.

[@MashedUpMarshMallows]

Alejandra Marquez ???

[@selfelements8037]

1:06

[@redtobertshateshandles]

I'm still confused. 😂 Though I guess corporal punishment in childhood drove me to the male side away from empathy and compassion. No, I'm not totally heartless.

[@ChaBoi777]

The Animus is the second-rate man in a woman. It's activated usually when she's dealing with men or masculine environments, and its projections can only be made known in relationship to men. It's hard for the uninitiated young man (or even older) to recognize its manifestion. Pick and choose your battles, gentlemen. But if you must battle it, then you must battle it for what it is and not what she is - a man. What's at the bottom of masculine disputes? Power. Put it in its place and tell it the bottom line, as a man. Be steady, firm, and short, with your feelings uninvolved, ready to take the next necessary move. If she doesn't respect that and/or responds with more pathology- don't walk, fucking run from that broad.

[@dreamingdreamerdream]

Hahaha little did the past JP knew, he will soon encounter an animus possessed interviewer named Cathy Newman and will skyrocket him to fame as a consequence of it 😂 Synchronicity at its finest lol

[@bananewane1402]

I'm a female but I feel I have an anima - a shadowed feminine side, while my masculine side dominates. I say this because I am drawn to femininity in other people, and have this internal feminine shadow that I project onto others or try to find in others to complete myself. I wouldn't have what you call "animus possession"; my masculine traits are healthy, natural and well-developed.

[@astoriasxyle5713]

This concept is for individuals whose conscious are in line with their traditional roles. The individuals whose conscious are switched should develop their personality the other way around. i.e. anima (feminine energy) will be developed by thinking, independent males and females, while the animus will be developed by feeling, creative males and females (masculine energy).

[@sup.2318]

A disconnect from your femininity is still an issue. You may think your masculine traits are healthy, but if you yourself know you are "projecting" onto other the spiritual need of the feminine side, then it means that you need to reconnect to it. You can be a more masculine woman, but not at the expense of getting rid of the feminine side. The feminine is the core of a woman regardless of the upbringing. The feminine is creativity, vitality, nurture. You have to practing BEING (anima), not as much DOING (animus). Femininity, in the shadow context, has nothing to do with the societal interpretation of what feminine looks like btw. It's the expression of your spiritual existence that goes beyond norms and cultures and refers to creation and living in nature.

[@bananewane1402]

@@sup.2318 I express my femininity by loving women

[@brav0wing]

The Jungian community has moved away from the essentialistic view that Jung kinda had in his time. Animus and Anima now stand for the psychological "other", instead of this view that this thing belongs to this gender and that thing to the other.

[@brav0wing]

Plenty, almost all the post Jungian literature has moved away from it. Check out Andrew Samuels' Jung and the Postjungians.

[@quintonfrost1259]

So an argumentative male would be missing anima?

[@Chevytothelevi]

“Windbaggery at its yawningest” -Says my animus

[@NotTheWheel]

OH! Is that what this is? Why would people be stuck on something as silly as that? Ain't cha ever heard of just being yourself? Duh. It's really quite simple. I guess I've never had to have a "conversation" with my animaniacs because it's all me. I'm not more or less the person I always am.

[@cacornett58]

Is this education or his opinion?

[@goldelinesommer734]

This is Jungs opinion

[@ilya4759]

For every "girly girl" out there, there is a poor guy who is tired of putting up with her shit.

[@Sarahharmful]

Just because 'society' accepts your personality doesn't mean it's who you truly are or are ready to grow who you are. So many woman mask their ADHD and autism to have a personality accepted by society. So many men mask their emotions and it comes out as anger so they are acceptable to society. When Yung says you wouldn't have been able to develop or accept these other potential parts of your personality because you weren't fully developed is such bs. The personality that society accepts forces men and woman to NOT develop those parts of themselves because then they aren't ladylike or they're a pussy and need to man up. I completely accept that people need to pull from both sides of the binary but society doesn't allow that very readily. Plus the example Jordan gives of the anima (female part) being irrational emotion is so fucked up and part of the reason why women are not given proper health care all over the world. There is a bias against women that they are hysterical when it comes to illnesses and issues they are having. Especially problems within their reproductive system, after not having a period for 4 months I was told it was just stress, luckily it came back and Ive had no other problems. However so many women are told it is normal that they have such heavy periods they collapse or the cramps they get are fine even though they are genuinely debilitating and all women have to put up with it so get over it. But there is actually a serious underlying issue such as PCOS or Endometriosis or even cervical cancer. Women are also 73% more likely to be injured and 17% more likely to die in a car crash. All safety tests done on cars using test dummies are ALL based on the male body composition. You want to tell us that we have everything equal but we don't. This world has been built for men for a long time and we are constantly berated because we can vote and work so what else do you want? Oh women are more likely to get custody of their children, so we need to stop that from happening, because it's not fair to men. One win for the women should be revoked. I do admit that many women should not have custody and that bias ruins children's lives. It still shows the bias that women are care takers of children and men are not. That's fucked. It's all fucked

[@dstyles8913]

Gesticulating monster.

[@diablocell]

When he's talking about the Animus he's talking about my wife

[@theblackblue5961]

Jordan looked half-dead at this point of his life.

[@GuyInnagorillasuit]

The poorly lit, low definition point of his life?

[@nogrammer]

Not compared to now

[@neokhesa8592]

The male anema would be someone who cares little about the consequences of extreme masculine portrayal and philosophy. A good example of this would be a biker gang member (sorry bikers but you guys are hard on yourselves) who destroys himself out of a need to live out the ideal. Or a man who takes discipline too far

[@neokhesa8592]

Especially in a world where inclusion is profitable. Because you have more options and are more likely to reach true efficacy

[@neokhesa8592]

And workplaces that promote this male anema are not likely to be functioning optimally.

[@allen5455]

Yeah, it's more like "butch" and the "beta" male. That's about it.

[@user-hb6mo4it7z]

He just proved that gender roles aren't biological but social construct. The fact that there is anima in man and animus in woman proves that those sides of our personalities are suppressed by social norms and nurture. We know what Jung thought how complexes generate, and anima or animus are nothing more then suppressed complex.

[@brav0wing]

The line between biological and social is very narrow to the point of almost non-existent. One influences the other. We know that genes aren't fixed nor that social constructs are for that matter. The line between the two is the spiritual.

[@stevejurgens9985]

No its not a complex. You have never read Jung. And it's not a social construct. Projektions can't be seen as such.

[@mahdidi96]

Im a newbie to this but u r wrong and right. Read the beginning of Aions, Jung explains it.