Jordan Peterson: Oblivious of your status & how to rise in the dominance hierarchy

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This video comes from professor Peterson's: "2016 Lecture 08 Maps of Meaning: Part I: Hierarchies and chaos" • 2016 Lecture 08 Maps o...

[@cjpatz]

Just realized, that when you face your fears you expand your territory.

[@loosingahwffanboy9277]

Only in ur mind, nobody gives a shit

[@dipankarm4125]

Right on. But, just do it rather than theorizing over it. Theorizing, intellectualising, they're all fixations in themselves. Wish you a phucking tough life.

[@patrykk9831]

​@A loud Italian Unless they sees you, look them in the eye, otherwise they think they got you under control, because they weren't caught. People don't give a shit, because they don't know how to fight and what for, there's need for knowledge to overcome predators who knows all the mechanisms of behaviours, so that's why they pretend they don't, but they do, at least to the degree that they're gonna stay alive

[@davyroger3773]

@@loosingahwffanboy9277 How can you separate your mind from the physical realm when it's being processed by it?

[@loosingahwffanboy9277]

Davy Roger still working on that. It’s tough. But all in all nobody truly gives a fuck. The simplest way to put it would be to just be a ghost.

[@kriskemp]

This guy could talk his way out of a sunburn

[@DP-qo9kl]

kris kemp 🌞 ✨ “You see. You can’t just ray your sun on my body. What are you doing exactly? Giving me cancer, or giving me warmth? Consequently, you just can’t. I won’t let you. Paradoxically-you know-“

[@mishasubin]

"Well you see you gave me a sunburn. NOW THATS COMPLICATED."

[@danielamishkovska2833]

Ahahahahhaha so trueeee

[@holo6883]

@@DP-qo9kl It's helping you produce vitamin D and allows you to see if anything

[@wowser44]

You can too bucko.

[@tanxyrogue847]

the cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek

[@NyxBorn7080]

It could also have a sleeping bear 🤣🤣

[@Fascistbeast]

The cave I fear may be bad cause the rocks may be unstable for mining Gold haha

[@teegamew766]

@@Fascistbeast gay

[@aeksinsang932]

You won’t enter her cave in fear 😝

[@halcioncocaine2096]

Status conscience junkies beware,the day of the Lord is near✔

[@mewubzy]

"If you're informed you're in formation" jeez dr p with the barz

[@awesomo845]

He should write rap music

[@vikneshmaniam5618]

😂😂😂😂

[@riton1112]

"The probability a angry primate attacks you is very low here"... Depends if gender studies class is conducted in an adjacent room.

[@josephabraham3901]

FUCK! NICE ONE.

[@KathyTOEFLTeacherLessons]

Haha! Boom! Hilarious

[@superchuck3259]

They need to learn that is not a valid mating strategy!

[@robo2901]

Excellent!

[@antikotocerepa]

You win the internet

[@kennedykiser557]

I Love this man's mind. He would offer your life so much, by just being a real good personal friend.

[@diamondtron7852]

His speeches and words found online contain much of what you'd gain being around him a lot, not everything but it's still valuable.

[@silkroad1201]

I doubt he has many friends, to be honest. Someone with that much introspective philosophy probably isn't going to many cocktail parties

[@slm2021]

That's an understatement! Jordan is really so fascinating to listen to and he has amazing integrity/ character.

[@jrdahl1]

I am 58 y.o. and I think that I am fairly aware of who I am (but sometimes I do not have a clue) and often times while interacting with people they say some of the kindest and flattering things about who I am as they see me. This always catches me off guard. The point here is that we never know how others see/perceive us based on all kinds of reasons.... I so admire Dr Peterson and he makes my head hurt in good ways and challenges me to push myself to be the best version of myself......Thank you Kind Sir

[@KRobs601]

Exactly!

[@oscar2500]

Beautiful words Jon. Keep living life to your fullest!

[@danielamishkovska2833]

And once we learn a lot about ourselves, human beings and psychology...we die :( There are no ways (at least not much ) to transfer that knowledge and awareness to our young. Sometimes I feel sad about this fact. How about you?

[@JeromePrometheus]

@Mini Cooper that's good, but I think ineffective, advice. Because, it's incredibly painful to be alone. Disregard for what society thinks might not even be the problem. (At least in my case this is true) rather, the issue is more like "I seem to be unable or unworthy of forming close friendships with at least ONE person whose company genuinely improves my life". And that's a painful problem

[@victorhopper6774]

@@JeromePrometheus quit caring. be a cat

[@DanielBrandt10]

The feeling of being in the right place, right time, fulfilling life is amazing. It's real! Thanks for the lecture.

[@Socrates-vn6dl]

Is there actually such thing?

[@DanielBrandt10]

@@Socrates-vn6dl Sometimes it's possible to immerse into these moments.

[@crackerjack6454]

what I love most about Peterson, is, the way he's figured out how to articulate and speak these truths that we already know to be true!!! These are the type of conversations I LOVE!

[@horizon592]

One of the best minds on the planet.

[@rollerhockey69king87]

Agreed. He keeps everyone honest.

[@benry007]

Depends on your definition of best. I think he is a good combination of intelligence, wisdom and bravery. I wouldn't say hes one of the most intelligent people on the planet (though he is still very intelligent). But you can have an IQ of 200+ and spend your life doing something that doesn't really benefit humanity or even damages humanity.

[@David-ni5hj]

horizon592 Definetely, hard to think in someone better nowadays.

[@ThePocket9s]

Agreed. However Earth is a plane, not a planet.

[@DreamBeatsBakery]

Intelligence is multidimensional. There are people who have a 200+ iq and they solve ridiculously complicated math problems and others who write incredible literature or those who can intelligently analyze and lead people.the current IQ measurement misses q lot of the picture.

[@Fuentes2722]

One of the best parts of these great presentations is reading the comments! Very intelligent audience!

[@christophersurnname9967]

Really? More like a circle jerk of wanna-be intellectual losers.

[@aaronkalahar-_-_-]

Christopher Surnname And your so great, huh? Get outta here with you trolling. The world needs less negative people like you.

[@christophersurnname9967]

@@aaronkalahar-_-_- Lol don't be such a pussy

[@ZERO-rz2go]

@@christophersurnname9967 And tell me how you are any better

[@christophersurnname9967]

Scurvy maybe for the simple fact I don’t engage in intellectual circle jerking? And particularly for the fact I can spot it and don’t get Bukhakied by a bunch of intellectual circle jerkers? And also, when I spot it, I just jokingly call it out rather than quickly whipping my intellectual cock out to join in with the aim of showing that my intellectual dick is bigger than everyone else’s.. because that’s gay af

[@Plyde001]

Peterson, if you ever find this message, I just want to say that I appreciate all that you've done for my life, just as for many others like me, who are trying to find the true meaning in life. Through these videos I feel that I've become a student of yours (although I admit that one day I would have to enroll into one of your classes to truly become one). Regardless, your videos have truly dropped a lot of knowledge and wisdom that I could use to visualize the world around me. For that I thank you. Please take care of your health. We are an extension of your family.

[@RonaldMcdonaldKills]

Found out about this man months ago. This guy seems like a genius. I love everything about him. Those students are so lucky.

[@SergioRugerio]

“You are at home whenever you know what to do”

[@dreydonmartin5836]

joe jitsu be the one that stops them. But make sure you are precise in your speech

[@shonkysidewayssam6134]

Confronting predators (work place ones), selective ones on the street/bar, helps big time down the road in life and strengthens one beyond their imagination. If focusing on all the negative encounters with other people out there, will but someone in a negative mind set with a positive feedback loop. Focusing on what have “I” achieved from those experiences is more rewarding and the idea that everyone has their own strengths/weaknesses, will also create strength in the jungle out there...

[@lukeArmstrong524]

I would never take back anything. I had to fight my way up the food chain. It only made me stronger.

[@rguimond]

Lobster crew checking in! Get yer pinchers up and your antenna back. There's melted butter out there - bloody ready to TAKE. YOU. DOWN. And that's that.

[@bigpicturethinking5620]

Roughly speaking.

[@henrickcasanova8023]

borderline cringe

[@GB-ts5pq]

@@henrickcasanova8023 silence, mortal

[@henrickcasanova8023]

@@GB-ts5pq no, cornball

[@baore2422]

A friend of mine is having trouble getting out of his comfort zone when it comes to approaching girls and starting conversation. He has told me that he is worried that no girl would ever want him due to his lack of “suave.” It’s really sad to see, since he is one of the nicest people I know and I have yet to meet someone who dislikes him. I have given up trying to help him, as he sees it more as an act of charity than one of kindness. Guess it is up to him to venture out into the unknown, but JP is right when he says that the best way to get over the fear of rejection is just to put yourself out there.

[@smoothpotato957]

Hard to get any life experience when you’re scared of life .. most guys with that mindset have to pull themself out, a woman could be attracted to them but they will knowingly or unknowingly put her off due to feeling uncomfortable and not confronting it and clearly display it… then see your help and advice as pity, not points to address and change

[@Kenny-tl7ir]

Women these days are simply not worth the effort. Don’t climb the hierarchy for them

[@loriedsonemma-o3318]

I'm not good at writing so, I guess I'm doing well eating this monster. Thanks for the video, Jordan Peterson is our 21th-century philosopher.

[@odinncool]

21st century* And yeah he is very valuable to me :)

[@mcnuggetsferg1685]

He's a psychologist not a philosopher. Kwame appiah, Alain badiou, simon blackburn, tyler burge... are all much better living breathing philosophers, according to google...

[@robo2901]

He's definitely both.

[@mcnuggetsferg1685]

Probably, I was just using google to sound smart and fit in but you stole my moment :( I don't even know any of those other guys. Love JP though.

[@cristicristi2668]

Google white American inventors

[@xeropunt5749]

The best thing about JP is that he's on record! For us to absorb

[@matskennethjohansen9292]

What if Peterson was a social-political tool used to manipulate people and create more political division? What if he uses he's in-depth understanding of psychology to gaslight us with propaganda that is factual at best. yes i have smoked.

[@jasongravely7217]

Xero Punt completely agree. hundreds of hours of GOLD

[@jasongravely7217]

Mats Kenneth Johansen I could see that being a potential possibility but the more I listen to his talks and lectures, observe his deep love for humanity, and read his books, the more I trust him. He’s here to call bullshit, help people, and figure out his OWN meaning, thereby helping others confront their issues and find THEIR own meaning.

[@DUCKSXLE]

Once I learned about professor Peterson, I immediately became attached to his way of speaking and in fact teaching which I never thought any teacher would ever make me say. Since listening to him speak about the psychology behind facing fears head on in numerous talks, I have implemented this idea into my own life in areas like deep rescue exercises for my old job as a lifeguard and recent job interviews I have gone through since completing my education at sixth form. It really is one of the most important attributes to hold, and I struggle quite bad with a hyperactive mind and anxiety (I smoke weed to counteract my mental hyperactivity because it’s not good for me) so I am by no means bragging confidence. Because I soil my briefs when I have to face something that matters but I have developed the ability to ignore that and get the job done. I had to force myself to the bottom of a diving pool to rescue a dummy every month for staff training, that messed with me to the extent where I lost sleep and I still, when it came to it, just did it and got the job done without failure on any occasion. Peterson is brilliant and everyone should pay a lot of attention to his words.

[@Glace1221]

I wish I watched this before my weld test. Part of me wanted the job so I can build up my confidence and funds and help my parents with bills, a part of me hated the idea of getting tied down to the same place that I am trying to get away from, and a part of me is just like, "Eh. Whatever. Just wing it and leave it up to fate." I kind of winged the first three open-butts, but man did I pour all of my concentration into trying to get that last one perfect. Like, right speed, straight bead, gun straight on the metal. Because in that moment, I fully believed that I want and need that job. Now if only I had that mentality from when I walked in to when I walked out.

[@copernicusnewton2569]

I had the same scenario but not as something as complicated or laborious. It's dishwashing. I can get really focused and devoted to something as simple as that. Eventually I'm starting to resent my past self because I could've invested that same energy to something more meaningful.

[@TLDWsummary]

So many golden nuggets of wisdom in this one. What would we do without you JBP

[@kittenmittons10]

When you're sitting in a restaurant and there's people sitting right out the window looking at you while you're having a conversation.

[@kev7355]

I find that when I don't care about a job, I tend to ace that interview and get the offer. When I really want that job, I overthink questions, anxious, appear too desperate and never get that job.

[@theeel420]

Same with women

[@luxuryxcoffin]

I've done it so many times.

[@samendo1227]

Lol happened to me: I was trying to fail an interview and found out I passed

[@danielamishkovska2833]

In my younger days when I went on a job interview at 100% and didn't get the job, it was way too hard to handle the disappointment. For weeks sometimes for months. As time passed by I learned to be much pickier and explore about the employer (if I can at first hand from an employee) BEFORE I even write my CV! I would go to the interview but this time at 60%, with much more confidence and much more resereved behaviour than my younger days. With this behavior I would get that job, (I actually got several jobs). I would even negotiate higer pay than first mentioned! Seems like employers appreciate you more and eager to hire you when they KNOW other employers are VERY interested in having you too! Hope this helps to all young people seeking jobs :)

[@Gohanitos]

nice tip, thank u

[@paritoshyajnik5110]

Can you mention your top 3 tips for negotiating the pay, great tip btw 😇

[@pugapino]

The problem with being the Top Dog is the constant “Sword of Damocles” hanging over your head. Also every new ambitious person you meet is working hard to knock you out. It’s quite exhausting and very stressful. After the big stock options are vested and cashed out, there are diminishing returns on fighting off the nonstop challengers.

[@halukgul6408]

who are you fighting? Why are you creating imaginary enemies? If you only work to improve yourself you won't look around you. You can't win the running race turning your head left to right constantly trying to see if anyone is passing you. jesus what a sick way of thinking brother...

[@mosotheshowstarta7183]

Yeah, and then you lose your nerve and become the Waco Kid.

[@halukgul6408]

@@mosotheshowstarta7183 no u dont, u feel fulfilled cause you are seeing progress and improving which activates your dopamine system. Anyways. Who wants to be normal hehe

[@mosotheshowstarta7183]

@@halukgul6408 I'm guessing you're not a Mel Brooks fan.

[@halukgul6408]

@@mosotheshowstarta7183 nop. makes movies? i'll check him out thnks

[@timmalmros2692]

The quality of his courses must have been INSANE before he became famous.

[@asahearts1]

So you're saying I should interview lobsters?

[@Sopranohooper]

And then you should EAT them.

[@jeremywhitfield4556]

Lol

[@slappy8941]

Roughly speaking.

[@Istoleyoursweetroll]

Well, no... partly. But yes, you do. You do, do that.

[@erdftzgh]

Go a head! Please, we need the info ! Lol

[@VeridianCityCards]

Ahahaha yes! Ready to adapt, maneuver, dodge, and respond. That is true strength.

[@VeridianCityCards]

Ben Waldron You.

[@Elite244]

Yadda yadda... so, most people "maneuver" to get higher on a pecking order... dodging the crap rolling down hill... adapting to the commute and the hours. Responding to what? Money and/or status, grubbing for love, or some semblance of respect from our fellow apes. Is it true strength? I don't know about that. Its the comfort of fitting in the dominance hierarchy. Peterson's model of the human being is compelling but ultimately dismal.

[@halcioncocaine2096]

Please check your spelling dude🔡🔠

[@halukgul6408]

@@Elite244 well you're just defining the terms on your own liking and trying to dismiss his point by your dismal definitions which doesn't reflect what he's trying to expand on, so weak intellectual argument on your part I give you 2/10. maneuvering is to the suprises and unexpected events in life, responding to what pops up in the unknown territory, dodging unnecessary actions and stimulus. We are social animals, dominance hiearchy has been here for millions of years, it's quite unimpressive for you to unsee the evidence brought up by science and confirmed by research. "comfort of fitting in the dominance hierarchy" sounds like it's from a person who has lost his chance to climb it at the time and is now throwing mud at it. Basically, don2t try to debunk complex ideas and models with your uneducated low on status - low on seratonin brain and keep your undeveloped and groundless theories to yourself m8. bye

[@riseandshine5706]

how the fuck is implementing a defensive strategy “true strength”?

[@silkroad1201]

I can't say "dominance hierarchy" in any other voice than Jordan Peterson's. It's literally impossible

[@drowningblonde]

I have a knack for making people like me then forget me as soon as i leave the room.

[@frankmilenkovic4993]

Escort?

[@jimmysmith736]

@@frankmilenkovic4993 Lol

[@sukantabhattacharjee4068]

You are truly a gift to the World.

[@PaulSouthernCross]

If the greatest gift is to see ourselves as others see us then what is the value of self-awareness? Besides, most people don't want to know, they want to judge. And their judgments are often uninformed, biased, distored and unkind. Why should we care what they think of us? The greatest gift is to see yourself as you are, good and bad. Change what you can, accept what you can't, and value it all.

[@Fear_the_Nog]

Paul Rothwell "If the greatest gift is to see ourselves as others see us then what is the value of self-awareness?" I'm not sure what you mean by that, being able to see ourselves via another's perspective IS fundamentally a part of a developed self awareness. "Besides, most people don't want to know, they want to judge. And their judgments are often uninformed, biased, distored and unkind."' No, it's not any more often than the opposite. we tend to queue out the positive things and remember the things that hurt. "Why should we care what they think of us?" To better understand what effects, if any, our own selves have on other people and because what others think of us have a direct consequence on ourselves and our own welbeing or lack thereof, since interaction is unavoidable. It's only logical to obtain information about that. "The greatest gift is to see yourself as you are, good and bad." The false assumption you made is that other people don't help in that endeavor. Your "good and bad" are affiliated with societal distribution of averages and culture, which involve other people. Your "'self" is not fundamentally divorced from the rest of humanity, what you are is influenced by the ideas and thoughts of other people (just being able to speak English is a thought germ you caught from other people). "Change what you can, accept what you can't, and value it all. " Other people can help you in understanding what you need to change about you. If you're insensitive and callus for example, you might not know to what extent you are, until someone has the good sense to give you a piece of their mind. Start a dialog with them and see if you can negotiate some change or not. THAT's the point Peterson is making

[@ryancraigt]

Perfect self awareness involves understanding how an external person views you :?

[@MaryBarranti]

@Fawexx Another ignoramus putting down what he doesn't understand.

[@simonlevy2154]

Exactly, and furthermore you are not trying to gain the respect and interest of everyone. You are looking to gain the interest/attraction of a small group of people.

[@mohammedmohiuddin92]

I absolutely agree with you. We are not just another species of animal. We are the only animal with consciousness and free will on the planet. Our evolutionary ancestors commit rape, fight each other for power, have sex with anyone they like, and they don't have any justice or scene of morality. We also have these nature embodied in us. But the purpose of education and wisdom is to overcome and take control of our impulses. If you cant be confident or brave because of your status or wealth and dominate the people who are below you, then you are still like other animals not fully human. I'm not denying the fact that by nature we seek security in our possessions but we have to get past this. A truly human being doesn't consider himself above or below others.

[@richardwatts20]

The way that Dr Peterson conducts himself always amazes me. I can relate a lot to the amount of passion he speaks with (not for one minute saying I am even in the same league as him) but I can and will speak passionately and convincingly about subjects I have spent years of my life learning and paying attention to - yet I will occasionally get accused of yelling.

[@RESISTFEAR]

"Stay under your bed with the dust bunnies" LMFAO.

[@Rytronica]

RESISTFEAR You can just tell Jordan's internal narrative is very similar to his external.

[@boogeyratt]

So close. It always confuses me how someone can misquote something that a) they just heard, and b) can rewind and rehear.

[@memespeech]

This is a good lecture on the topic of people oblivious to existence of systematic bullying or even normies arrogantly victim-shaming due to their superiority complex (they want to believe they've avoided it because they're better, ignoring existence of charismatic (in-group) sadists in the world).

[@KasaBlanca007]

Due to my short attention span, I really appreciate & enjoy these appropriately titled clips of his lectures.

[@bluenetmarketing]

I have been at the low end of the class and at the top of the class. The difference is studying early and often, and believing that you can reach the top. If you believe you can, then with enough work, you can. No secrets and nothing mysterious about it at all. Like Einstein said, success is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. Success is not a bauble, it is a long march that marks you with many scars.

[@markhachenburg3906]

Thomas Edison, not Albert Einstein. But, I dig what you said...

[@bluenetmarketing]

@@markhachenburg3906 Both said it. www.goodreads.com/quotes/115696-genius-is-1-talent-and-99-percent-hard-work

[@italianmiltyfriedman6264]

Brilliant JP prayers for him and his wife in Sept 2019!

[@nukepizzaa]

Glad they are safe now

[@gatsbyhotjacks6711]

As an adult with adhd, i know now ill never be able to hold any sort of leadership position. But for years before, i just couldnt understand why i wasnt getting employee of the month or promotions that newer coworkers that joined months after me were rising above me in the work ladder. I hate having adhd because it effects every part of my life and holds me back so much.

[@Speckter_]

How?

[@spetsnaz4027]

Dr. Jp you sir are truly an educator

[@Fuentes2722]

I want a book of JBP's wisdom available all in one place like google. I love his books including the new one, and I love KZbin, but sometimes I cannot sit and watch as much as I'd like! (like I'm doing today)

[@stemfactory7312]

10:24, Agreed. I like to take this two-part approach. 1 focus your attention on manifesting the creation of your desires and 2 run a large set of posable probability scenarios and look for solutions that can correlate across them all

[@adammichaeltartsah2333]

He's one of the one that pulled me out of the water Godbless him

[@sickpat7197]

I do not participate in any dominance hierarchy...I simply do not compete...I'm not going to win anyways. If a competition arises, I remove myself entirely. I learned very young that when you enter a competition you have to fight the people that are supposed to be "on your side" AND the people you are trying to compete against. it's too much to fight against...I'm simply not interested in fighting losing battles...This is why I live my life alone, at least that way I only have ONE set of potential enemies.

[@LiberateNZ]

Sick Pat everyone is in multiple different hierarchies whether they want to be or not. You can call it a competence h eirachy if you prefer but heirachy is the default unless you’re a hermit

[@christophersurnname9967]

No, you're simply at the bottom of the hierarchy that way, pretending that you're not in it when you are, but just at the bottom and don't have the balls to fight.

[@laniakea777]

@@christophersurnname9967 Correct

[@gigamesh780]

The best way to not compete is to DOMINATE your skill. If you are good at something...and you have mastered it only ONLY focused on that....nobody else will compete

[@christophersurnname9967]

Titan tau bingo

[@RandomRelapse]

3:33 Wow... just wow... this is incredible true, This is the Meaning of Life.

[@IamINERT]

I was surprised that people didn't see me as an awkward guy, to my surprise people that I've talked to think I am an outgoing chill guy, which I was so confused about.

[@demetrioavalos7975]

I can relate to this, my view of myself in my head is completely different to what people actually think of me.

[@Finding999]

I can't really put it into words how indebted I am to this man...

[@iamjoshkoopman]

6:50 - 7:03 Jordan Peterson has got BARS.

[@davidlawrence8085]

Really enlightening right at the last about what ones "territory" is > Its not a physical space or location but situational. Your territory is ........when you go there, all the things you want or expect to happen , actually happens.

[@alphasuperior100]

I swear this guy is so intelligent especially in terms of understanding human nature and how it applies to the world etc.

[@mineralisk]

Finally someone can tell me how things work and I will not be bored

[@SS-gs2lh]

2:47 I can’t be the only one who heard that lil moan lol

[@hardiksonkar225]

yeh what was that? lol

[@skyinuri8868]

Exactly dr.. I have realized it, neither you through the obstacles or you abandon whole. It exactly what happened in my life recently, I got disappointed in joining a model leadership for SDGS, after the 1st day the main speakers broke my expectation: failed to recognize vision to solve the first current issue. After that day, I abandoned the rest 4 days, letting my money wasted, without any certificate or valuable paper I felt like a scumbag for 2 days, but I beat myself to get my legs on other challenges

[@destroyerinazuma96]

I sorta belong to the "don't care that much" tribe and try to treat people fairly abd courtly by default. I know high status people can be mean, but so are cops or obviously inebriated people or any group in a neighborhood you're not part of. It's often context dependent though - the place matters as much as you and them

[@spiralviper8158]

11:29 - that's being afraid of something, which means you should confront it. "It's not until you've lost everything, that you're free to do anything." - Tyler Durden After that, once you're free to do anything, what would you do? Don't want to be consumed by infinite possibility either and end up doing nothing; spread too thin. Even in complete freedom our options are limited. This isn't complete freedom in a malevolent sense; consequences always apply and nothing will undo this. How it gives you complete freedom in what it removes, is the fear of what you have to lose as you've already lost it (reputation; giving a fuck what people think)

[@timothykuring3016]

What if you are the anomaly? What if the main problem is that no matter how hard you try to make yourself understood, people are frightened and confused about you? They find you completely unpredictable and impossible to categorize. There is the story of a hunter who happened across a goddess bathing naked one night. She sent her pack of dogs after him, and he ran, pursued by the dogs. Some scholar theorized that the dogs represented his thoughts running around in his head. People who think so much about how to manipulate a situation, or worrying too much about their status and the status of others, are like the hunter running madly through the woods pursued through the dogs. You could simply choose to be comfortable with chaos and play with the dogs. I never know my own status, but it does baffle me a little to see people making so much effort to try to figure it out, when I can't figure it out and I long ago gave up and dismissed it as mysterious and irrelevant. It is like when I come upon a group of people in the woods. Men or women, they generally behave the same. I was climbing a bluff once when I heard a bunch of young women yodling across the valley. As I approached I joked a little when I asked them if they were cultivating their inner wild woman, and running with the wolves. They mostly regarded me with hostility as they shuffled away from me. One woman had a friendly and generous response, so I stood and talked with her for awhile, while the others whispered amongst themselves and cast hostile glares at me. I went my way before long because my presence was too disturbing to them. Men are the same. I happened upon a hunting party one day of about a dozen men, and they all shuffled off when I approached, but one was friendly so I talked with him for awhile. But the rest stood off at a distance, whispering amongst themselves and castimg hostile glances at me. I moved on because it was clear that I was disturbing them too much. It's always something like that in any social situation. I observe an atmosphere of growing paranoia and hostility. I have been told by people that they can't figure me out. I wonder why people are so obsessive about trying to figure me out. I don't bother trying to figure anyone else out. I simply relate to them one moment at a time, and one day at a time. I suppose I incidentally figure them out, because their behavior becomes predictable and kind of boring, but I wish they would be far less predictable. It seems like nobody is as full of surprises as I wish they were, and I imagine it is because they are overthinking how manipulate people and situations like the people Peterson describes here. They don't enjoy or appreciate chaos. They aren't as keen to find a naked goddess in the wilderness and play with her dogs.

[@shivonspicer8168]

Timothy Kuring this was enjoyable to read and I think I learnt something too lol I try to make sense of things a fair bit tbh,its a strong impulse that I have tried to squash but that in itself was harmful lol instead I picked up a practice that lets me "manage" my thoughts and yield to unpredictability and another to channel that tendency of mine in a productive way. Too much order sends me mad at the same time lmao and I yearn for choas again, in some unknown...then try to make sense of it and "tame" it 😂 sorta like a catch and release game maybe, or a preference for my choas to be coated in order like a chocolate centered Tootsie pop XD but I figure there needs to be a certain amt of comfort in both order and choas, for example in a long term relationship, there is gonna be routine and a certain amt of predicability as you get to know the person. Some stability as well...but you'd both need some sort of choas in the mix...could be small things too and it doesn't have to be couple acticities either. I think based on your comment,the majority of people were uncomfy with you cause you represent a choas that defies their order( how people speak or dress or act eg the comment to the ladies lol I would make that kind of comment naturally as well but most ppl wouldnt and find it stranfe and label you weird or some sort of potential tribal danger on instinct ahaah)

[@shivonspicer8168]

im striving for a balance. status is sorta worth thinking about...but not TOO much or it becomes an obsession and your face distorts from using the dark side of the force too much XD brings out a lot of our worst qualities to the forefront too :/ thinking about it too much can compromize who you are too...so I guess its all a balance, or st least striving for it

[@timothykuring3016]

Shivon Spicer Yeah, I think we were all masters at handling chaos (relatively speaking) at one time. Jesus said we had to become as children to enter the kingdom of heaven. My mother, and most people, said that was a matter of simple faith. In a way, I suppose it is, but what does that mean? I remembered regarding everyone with a sort of open expectancy. I had no prejudices about them from their appearance or status, and I had no expectations of what they would say or do, or whether they would be amusing or strange, or whatever. But the world added it's accumulations of judgements and expectations: "don't talk to that person," "be respectful of that person, " etc. For reasons of my own, I chose to disregard the claims and judgements of the world. Mostly because it was always making false claims and judgements of me. I often found good humor and spiritual riches in the people everyone else avoided or overlooked. I seldom found anything interesting, humorous, or enlightening in the people everyone admired and spoke well of. Children aren't wise enough to deal skillfully with people but they do deal pretty well with surprises and the unknown, because everything is surprising and unknown to them. You can find babies playing with wild animals and rattlesnakes without being harmed because they don't know enough to be afraid. They deal openly with what is in front of them and, unless they are maddened with pain or something, animals also deal openly with what is in front of them. What we have been conditioned to think of as chaotic and threatening is really natural order. There is a Zen story of a man who reacts with fear when he sees a rope and takes it for a snake. The story isn't just about how we overreact to illusions, but how our overreaction is also our response to actual snakes. Even when they are real, they aren't always dangerous, and even when they are dangerous, they aren't always threatening. But we overreact before we even know what is real and what is really going on. In their ignorance, children are less reactive and more observant and intelligent. When a person is trying to anticipate everything and work out the fine details of status, and how to manipulate or impress someone, as in a job interview, they are being like the opposite of the open minded child. They can even come across as nervous and afraid like the huntsman running through the woods at night, lursued by all his fearful thoughts and imaginations like a pack of baying dogs. I have managed to escape thinking like that most of my life, but only by thinking it over a lot. I can fall into the common way of thinking and behave much like everyone else when I'm not paying attention, or when I'm too busy thinking of something else and I'm caught in an unexpected situation by surprise - every situation in our society seems to have its model of cliched outcomes and rules, which is reinforced a million times by television, movies, and real time repetitions. You have to think and concentrate to do something different. Whereas, when you were a kid, you invented your own way of responding to things on the fly.

[@timothykuring3016]

Shivon Spicer I doubt I could tell anyone how to find balance because it is very much an individual thing, dependent upon your circumstances and your proclivities. I was a social outcast at a very young age, so I was limited regarding the roles I could play. I admired things like the anti-status humor of the Marx Brothers, the Munsters, Tom Sawyer, Brer Rabbit, and Monty Python. I also admired the ways of old hermits like the character of Mose on The Searchers, the old prospector in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Chance the Gardener in Being There, the old lady in the original Lady Killers, Obi Wan Kenobi in the original Star Wars, Gandalf, etc. I also liked almost all the old people I knew better than most people my own age. I sensed and loved their wisdom and their usually calm mastery of all things. I sort of absorbed a detached and playful attitude about all things. Some people are amazed by my calm attitude, especially in emergencies, but most people think I'm not serious enough, especially about things they want me to be serious about. Most people think I'm impossible to figure out and/or dangerously unpredictable. People in organizations like the military and corporations were always referring to me as a loose cannon. I scared them, and they wanted to keep me out of the loop. It worked for me, but it might not work for most people.

[@timothykuring3016]

Adrian Stubbs I'm sure you're probably right. I get along well with just about everyone in a person to person basis, but I cause a lot of trouble in groups. I notice people changing their personality a great deal in groups. My usual response in a group dynamic is to get bored or impatient with it and go away. As to people who are suffering in the dominance hierarchy. I don't know them. I don't know if I've ever met one. They don't confide in me. I suppose most of the people In got along with in school, for instance, we're either at the top of some sort of dominance hierarchy, jocks, burn outs, geeks, criminals, or they weren't socially affiliated with anyone. I suppose what appealed to me about them was that they were more fully developed individuals, and they didn't play the games that most other people used. For instance, my outlaw friend and I got along pretty well, though I had no interest in outlaw activity. His friends would practice peer pressure, which I hated and wouldn't tolerate. " Be a man, take a cigarette." I would refuse and they would keep pressing me until I had to laugh at them and call them clowns. But their leader was alright. He never used peer pressure, and when Israel refused a smoke, he was fine with it and he never mentioned it again. But while we were fast friends alone, I didn't like hanging around with his gang. They would just glare at me, and it always looked like they were looking for an opportunity to put a knife in my back. It is another example of how I got along best with individuals, but never well with groups. I couldn't do whatever they required of me to put them at ease. But I like being a loner.

[@spazehdreams]

Jordan is a top dawg! Period!

[@king-nick2023]

Si

[@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt]

I'm fairly sure college age women are pretty grossed out watching this crusty old bastard talk about sexual and relationship topics, and reduce womens behaviors to chemistry algorithms.

[@1st_b]

TasteMyStinkhole lol u triggered lil bitch

[@MrDavidKord]

People need to stop putting words in his mouth. He never mentions alphas or betas. That's some made up bullshit and he would never use that terminology because he's not an idiot.

[@asahearts1]

David Kordesh Noticed a bunch of Kathy Newmans in the comments of his videos lately.

[@dreamsprayanimation]

David Kordesh lol he has mentioned those terms, not in this video though.

[@MrDavidKord]

I've watched a whole lot of his videos and he's never said it once when I was watching. Gimme a link.

[@robo2901]

He mentions those who are too agreeable (betas), not aggressive enough (alphas). One can convert to the other or vice versa.

[@robo2901]

I know I used to be married to a shrew.

[@kirschrot77]

Dr Peterson and Christopher Hitchens are my heros

[@robertcalamusso4218]

Here’s a tip ~ Accept yourself. Be yourself. Be polite. Follow your bliss. Accept that not everything you want will come you way. Count your blessings. And know this ~ other who are mean will try to put you down. Or keep you down. Forget them. Even if they are family or friends.

[@bojnebojnebojne]

Some don't care about other peoples opinion on their perceived social status. I dont, i'm content with being "poor" in the sense of monetary income or status. Because i am quite happy with whom i am as a person on other fronts. Monetary status and social status is not important unless you constantly need confirmation or validation from others.

[@michaelhagelstein4334]

When I face my fears And own my bullshit. on the other side I develop courage And my confidence grows..

[@Philip-dy3ww]

12:00 barely saw him that cool 😂 . Looks like He is relaxed and fun with young people around

[@anonone2175]

Here's the trick however, emotionally, 'wanting tends to bar having', the more you WANT, the more you push the outcome away in some sense!

[@verymuddymantis162]

"STOP! YOU'VE VILOLATED THE LAW!"

[@awesomo845]

YOU'LL PAY WITH YOUR BLOOD!

[@mihir2077]

Awesomo ‘The One They Fear’ starts to play

[@rodrigo-tj1gf]

Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Your stolen goods are now forfeit

[@arthellstrobles1241]

STOP RIGHT THERE cRiMiNaL sCuM

[@spirosalexiadis]

Sometimes we have sensitivities that will weakeness more. So you have to be careful if you have issues.

[@paschalagwanedum8655]

Territory: all the places where when the animals does it’s thing and the thing the animals wants to or expects happen. ❤

[@anthonyhughes8026]

They aren't playing horrible games when they find you lacking; rather, you have not yet done anything which is interesting to them in the game they were playing.

[@johnpeterson4213]

My bro Jordon, is the Lion King of our tribe of Petersonia!

[@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742]

Petoria

[@dinosaurdino]

Everyone I know hates my entire existence and this happened by them talking to everybody but me. That’s when I realized how controlling people can be and I am unfazed because I know who I am as a person. I have good attributes and flaws just like the rest of the world, if I successfully defeat my flaws that will be good enough for me.

[@jonassal6937]

How could everyone hate your existence? What are you doing or saying?

[@SuspiriaX]

Smear campaign it acts as a filter to show up those people in your life who are easily manipulated and if they value your friendship then they will expend the energy to unravel the deception one day and if they do come back into your life then odds are they will never fall for such a thing again

[@Greg_Chase]

If you chastise a dog for the behavior it shows naturally (tail wagging when you get home, etc) all you get is a subdued, and probably less-happy, dog. The dog does not improve if your friend says "I don't like the tail-wagging" and is allowed to correct your dog for doing it. "Seeing yourself as others see you" cannot do much, because at any given time, we are taking the RIGHT ADVICE, which is old advice, and is GOOD advice: JUST BE YOURSELF. "Seeing yourself as others see you" is fine if you're wearing shabby clothes - you can change your clothes. But beyond easy-to-change things like clothes, you can't change your physical appearance, or a lot of other things, very easily. If at all. "I see a short, fat, bald, physically repulsive person" or "I see a lady with a limp" or "I see a low-IQ person" or "I see an acne-scarred person" or "I see a clumsy, poorly-socialized person" Those don't help. So "seeing yourself as others see you" in some cases - no, you do not want to hear _THEIR PERCEPTIONS_ which are just their opinions. One of the reasons some actors never watch their own performance is to reduce self-consciousness that will arise the next time they're acting out a scene. JUST BE YOURSELF and don't worry if others don't accept you for yourself. YOU *HAVE* TO accept yourself - you're all you've got. . .

[@jlvandat69]

JP has some very good info, and some really bad advice as well. One example is his fixation with relative position on a social hierarchy. There "may" be a study or 2 that show a correlation between social status and happiness, but there are far more studies that prove real, sustainable personal happiness is achieved via other pursuits, such as meditation and good diet. People who blindly follow others never realize their full potential in terms of happiness, and JP's narrative here is one reason why.

[@sadisticgirl_]

good diet puts you higher in hierarchy as opposed to fat and unhealthy people so

[@yetihehe]

If you don't care about having low social status, it won't make you unhappy. JP gives advice on how to increase status to people who want to do this. You don't actually need to listen him, but it's good to know why some yhings happen, it helps you understand your situation.

[@nathanaelkramer6494]

Nah.. the idea as he is proposing it is far more general than just social hierarchy. It is how you (instinctively) perceive you position in regards to hierarchy, health, security, being who you want to be, moving toward your goals, etc. in other words.. your (mostly) unconscious feeling of how well you are doing in the aggregate.

[@FreedomTalkMedia]

I recently went on a job interview for a job that I have long wanted. I recently started a new online side business that I think could make that job irrelevant. I went on the interview because I had been trying to get it for many years and never could. It seemed like it went okay but I didn't follow up after and neither did they. Part of me cares, part of me doesn't.

[@lennontait1623]

“See oursels as ithers see us” Robert burns 💪🏼

[@petereames3041]

Be kind. Listen. Help other people out. Talk to everyone the same.

[@josephang9927]

I want to feel good regardless of my status or life. I guess this is why people use drugs but I want a better way.

[@samuelanderson5749]

now that's a man I would listen to even if I didn't agree with him

[@dragonfeet5435]

9:55 Jordan Peterson underestimating his influence of will on the world

[@DerperDaDerpa]

4:00 I might be dumb but this is how I feel when I'm training kendama, better get back to it.

[@cortexauth4094]

1:30 Aight, this man is attacking me

[@TheMediaMakerYT]

At @3:33 He talks about meaning transforming from potential to existence and that if that's you're doing then it is the right place at the right time doing the right thing. My question is, what is meaning? How can I define what feels meaningful? Can I find something meaningful that is actually bad for me? How do I know what my emotion is? Lots of things feel good. Some things feel really good and not all of them are actually good.

[@danielschipper3124]

Meaning is responsibilty. For example, what was the meaning of Jesus' life? Dying for our sins, because other than that there wasn't anything special. Sure, the miracles, but god himself was already able to do those. Jesus had to take the responsibilty for humanity and its sins, because that was one of the, if not the most competent thing Jesus was able to do. Meaning derives from what the goal is you set yourself to do in this life. What that is, is up to you to decide.

[@jacobmiddleton5615]

Can someone explain why I’ve confronted my fears but still have anxiety, I’m genuinely confused.

[@kristin5705]

What life experiences does he have to ground these statements? I agree with him entirely, I am hesitant of spouts of logical insight when I know nothing of the origins of how this person learned it. I know it is not just reading it.

[@ehsaanmalik6142]

Your curiosity is mesmerizing :D .. I guess everyone here in JP's video knows he is THE MASTER SHIFU , we all Pandas need in Life ..

[@kylersloan6394]

Although I agree with Peterson on most points, he will often interpret an event in a way that makes his own position more comfortable -- a professor who prefers to spend his time doing research rather than teaching will have to decide what to do with the negative energy offset by the latter experience [the 'unknown factors' he speaks of -- change in student taste or interest, unexpected questions, etc.]. He can revert the quality of the energy by convincing himself that it is in his best interest to invest in the outlet (the '100 percent rule' he referenced). This paradigm shift will result in some amount of the former negative energy converting into positive energy. If you are restricted to that toil which you so despise, this is the only way to lighten it (other than passive forms; i.e. fantasizing about better circumstances). Although it is preferable to the alternative ("psychotic behavior") when doomed to a life of frail mediocrity, it does not find resonance with the talented, yet anti-social individual -- for, his views carry a particular value for the rest, in spite of their divergence. What he seems to be describing is a positive way of viewing a slave-mentality which those with "jobs, not careers" can benefit from. It makes their position more tolerable; this includes his own.

[@smilemore5653]

He's been given messiah status, he is not that. I agree with what you say to some extent and don't blindly believe everything he comes out with.

[@kylersloan6394]

John Gault: Correct; but, what is more foolish-- thoughtlessly accepting every argument you hear, so long as it comes out of the mouth of someone you've previously esteemed.

[@kylersloan6394]

John Gault: You would have to ask those who know me for that. My 'contribution to their lives'? -- that is for them to measure.

[@kylersloan6394]

John Gault: What an enlightened man you are. You are the one who asked for my credibility. Emotion and Curse Words -- substitutes for thought

[@shivonspicer8168]

its really hard to admit that a mentor might be wrong tbh, just like a parent. there is something within us that fights the notion savagely...maybe ppl see the mentor as a future version of themselves and don't want to destroy thier guiding ideal. I've experienced it too and have had to admit, that the mentor, like myself, is a human and flawed. it takes practice and willingness to juggle or balance an ideal and a reality.

[@CHURCHISAWESUM]

The Crow and the Sheep A troublesome crow seated herself on the back of a sheep. The sheep, much against his will, carried her backward and forward for a long time and at last said: "If you had treated a dog in this way, you would have had your deserts from his sharp teeth." To this the crow replied; "I despise the weak and yield to the strong. I know whom I may bully and whom I must flatter, and thus I hope to prolong my life to a good old age."

[@theone1608]

That 60-100% ...very important

[@michaelscott6216]

I would argue that the best gift would be to not give a shit how others see you

[@christophersurnname9967]

Good luck with that brah. Not such a gift either. How ppl see you obviously greatly affects how you see yourself. How other ppl see you is arguably more accurately you then how you see yourself. Ppl see themselves as all kind of things, when they are not.

[@michaelscott6216]

Christopher Surnname I agree with you, but I doesn’t change what I said. I said simply to not give a shit about how others see you, regardless if it true or not.

[@christophersurnname9967]

Michael Scott true

[@intpninja]

Christopher Surnname Strangers don’t know you

[@AiCash-mc8fb]

I clicked just because of the thumbnail 🤣 And stayed for the content 👍👍

[@carlharmeling512]

Ms. Bevis Loved the movie. It's one of my all time favorites. Makes me laugh just to think about it.

[@MsBevis-ib7fe]

I suppose this is how I could truly quit cigarettes cold turkey

[@DesudesChan]

If you absolutely can't quit, try an alternative. Regular cigarettes is a shit way to absorb nicotine to begin with, and isn't that the whole point of smoking? Personally, I prefer Snus and my electrical cigarette.

[@migjordanpayawal7856]

Aim for it and work daily towards it.

[@r011ing_thunder6]

Ms. Bevis u never really quit you just take a long ass break before you get to the next one. So if u ever relapse don't beat yourself up about it and give it another try. You're a failure when you give up

[@raaie7890]

It is how I quit pot cold turkey.

[@halcioncocaine2096]

Or eat turkey warm🇹🇷

[@andysmyth1211]

How about having no status. I'd rather detach myself from trivial human hierarchy and social behaviours.

[@latelate1000]

Essential Truth, It is very nice of you to share these videos, but the titles are often quite misleading.

[@coopernoble6139]

Jordan prefers the term competence hierarchy

[@Pseudothink]

Imagine if these videos of JP lectures were given accurate titles instead of off-topic, clickbait titles.

[@romandashkevich9780]

That's the problem with people re posting his content. Shit titles but content is most always good.

[@tonydraws]

time does not "flow past us" we move linearly through time. Aside from that, excellent

[@DubTurd]

Tony Draws from a physics standpoint you are right. But maybe I can make ‘time flows past us’ a bit more clear to you. An example that’s probably familiar to you: you do something in the present, and you think yes this is great, what I’m doing right now is good. In addition, you rationalize some reason for the why of why you are doing that action in the present, in which you are still progressing along with time. But say that two weeks later you reflect on that thing you did in the ‘present’ and you seem to have established a much more logical, causal explanation of the why behind that action. You now seem to have expained your past action properly and kind of ‘check it off’ as the correct explanation, in contrast to the initial rationalization. So what has happened in a figurative way is that as you progressed through time after your first explanation of the action, you went through time in which the ‘proper’ explanation basically already existed, which you would find out two weeks later. So when looking at it that way time flows past you (if you look at time as the ‘truth containing’ medium which is ahead of us, that’s why you find out later). Lol this probably doesn’t make any sense since I define time here as something that it simply isn’t, but I figured it was still a though worth sharing :) Also I don’t know if this is what Jp meant by saying it. Cheers m8

[@FincheLaVaccaVa]

Which management theory is he talking about at 2:12?

[@apollostarsprinter880]

Terror management theory.

[@leapsplashafrog]

If I was a student I’d find his lectures difficult - what subject is he teaching ? Tigers ? Space time ? Robots ? Love ?

[@delo1987]

Life, most important and least teached subject of all

[@jesseward568]

A lot of lecturers are like this. You are just learning

[@lovelove-lu8wo]

We rarely to be seen for who we really are....Unless you focus on getting appreciated properly.

[@mayurshivhare715]

This channel's creator is a broken man,,,,, dude hats off to u.