Jordan Peterson Goes Through IQ Test

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[@loualcaraz6497]

Motivational speakers: "don't ever let anyone tell you you can't do it." Jordan Peterson: "You can't do it."

[@haidernaeemmalana8601]

And that's a trump card no motivational speaker can talk around

[@iamjust1normalgirlfromindi446]

I guess none of the people who have IQ less than 83 would read this comment. Because i guess they will not watch JP's lectures because they are difficult to understand, aren't they

[@reptowolfe8322]

And the funniest part, he's probably more motivational than them anyway.

[@Supreme_Lobster]

@@iamjust1normalgirlfromindi446 I think JP does a great job of simplifying concepts, so even if someone doesnt understand all of them very deeply, they can still get the overall message in a way that they can use

[@iamjust1normalgirlfromindi446]

@@Supreme_Lobster Ahh! Yeah! Right!

[@owenwalker1774]

Those IQ test questions are allot easier than puzzles in Resident Evil games.

[@Nick_las_seafarer]

If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin

[@owenwalker1774]

@grim triX Yea I wondered about that. What was the time limit? I solved the 3rd one but it took me awhile.

[@joehuffman7410]

@grim triX Yes there are 3 types of crosses and 3 backgrounds. the only combination missing out of the total 9 is number 3. For the people who think it is 7.... the pattern doesn't lie in each column or row but the puzzle as a whole.

[@owenwalker1774]

@grim triX Its 3 because, as an example, there are three blue triangles, three yellow triangles, and two black triangles, therefore the triangle must be black. Do this process of elimination with all three segments.

[@johnristheanswer]

" allot "

[@zeustrong305]

One remarkable thing Jordan said is very true. IQ tells you how fast a person can learn something, but not how they perform after learning it. The chances for them to get bored at it is high. The more intelligent, the more resistance against repetitive tasks.

[@RaniaIsAwesome]

IQ is a pile of nonsense.

[@hi4550]

@@cherrynado Yes that is true My iq lies between 138 to 145 But sometime in other test It lies between 150 to 160 But still scored 62 in class 12th With 2 days With just

[@davidsmith7653]

Hmmm, psychological tests have shown that introverts are better than extroverts at repetitive tasks. It's not connected to intelligence. It is measured by the Pursuit Rotor Test.

[@HassanIQ777]

​@@hi4550hahahha I got top 99.99% percentile, gets 14/100 in mathematics, I just don't care

[@peterkoch3777]

Wrong! The more intelligent, the faster a repetitive job gets boring. And then the smart people start automating.

[@SmugAmerican]

I've been teaching my kids that effort is more important than talent. I always tested well growing up, and I've also aced puzzles and things of that nature. I knew the solutions to these pretty quickly. But I'm essentially a janitor, because I never applied myself. I was too anxious and afraid of the effort required to try and become anything complicated. I squandered my intelligence. If I impart anything to my children, it's that being smart isn't worth piss if you don't direct it with some sort of ambition in life.

[@LazyBoyZR1]

As a Sr. Tech Manager in a very competitive field (AI) - It's getting harder and harder to find the "right" people to join my team. I use a variation of these types of questions in my screening interview. As you mentioned you do well on tests, and puzzles, but I mix in the stress of the interview, I distract the people during my timed pop quiz, and it's been extremely valuable in my screening process. But let me tell you from over 20 years of experience in management and hiring top people. You just don't know how people will work until you work with them. I say it to my kids, you can't teach ambition and work ethic. Either you have it, or you don't. At least at the level I'm hiring for. It's possible to learn what it takes to work hard at a young age, from your parents or other mentors, but it takes years of effort and making mistakes and learning what to do and not to do... By they time I'm hiring you, you either have it or you don't. Edit: Wanted to add, that stress tolerance is equally important to general competence. Without a high stress tolerance, many "smart" people are too afraid to try. They get left behind, and quickly.

[@SmugAmerican]

@LazyBoyZR1 For sure. I do restorations of stone, carpet, metal, and vct for 18 dollars an hour. I do well enough, but I could have done better for myself if I didn't start out so lost in my 20s.

[@Filosofos1]

Well they cant really change their intellect so yeah learning discipline is going to be more beneficial.

[@freedomextremist7215]

@@LazyBoyZR1 You can teach it, but it gets exponentially harder as time passes. That's why family and early education are very important.

[@zegikniet9999]

I wish my mother told me that instrad of just praising my intelligence cause i am kinda in the same boat. But working on it..

[@naut_nigel]

"Wow. IQ tests are so pointless. Intelligence can't be summarized in one number." *gets all 3 correct* "On the other hand.."

[@bushranger900]

When are you flying to Mars..Captain..not on my ship I hope

[@daveerwin6981]

You're right. You should read Nassim Taleb's take on IQ

[@LegoDonut18]

Nigel Murillo Of course, an actual IQ test should be AT LEAST 20 questions and even that is stretching it.

[@martinlyons3028]

People who boast About their IQs are losers

[@Madzguy007]

Then you clearly don’t understand what an IQ test is. It’s not just a number

[@warwickthekingmaker7281]

"It´s illegal to recruit someone with an IQ of less than 84 into the army." RIP Forest Gump...

[@adamwhitaker7435]

Lol nice.

[@theman6119]

@Shaun Tanger smh your mom joke in 2019

[@Doraulxd]

@@theman6119 smh watch the movie

[@John-lo4xz]

@@theman6119 Not remembering Forrest Gump smh

[@TruculentGoose]

Actually, the 84+ IQ requirement is only for people who have not graduated high school

[@notvladamir4082]

For the 3rd one I picked 7 because I saw a different pattern. I’ve had a few instances like these when trying it tests, sometimes there’s more than one observable pattern.

[@diegoaguilar6809]

I did the same bro and even after being told that the correct answer was 3 I still think that 7 is the one that best follows the patterns being shown

[@andrewl8524]

The correct answer is 7. You guys are 100% correct. The pattern that matches best is #7 for question 3 based on a tri-varient triangle, two of three horizontal bars being an identical color and the vertical bar being tri-varient.

[@IRedBerryI]

I picked three. Of course there are always numerous detectable patterns, but it finished off the triples: being there were 3 blue triangles, 3 yellow triangles and 2 black triangles hence the final one was black. Same principal for both horizontal and vertical bars. I found that to be the most intuitive.

[@paularmstrong6471]

@@andrewl8524 Interesting. Subjective obviously, but to me with answer 7, the pattern doesn't appear strong enough. With answer 3 you can infer the pattern across the rows and the answer seems quite distinct. With 7 it only becomes a pattern (vertical bar being tri-variant) when you supply the answer. Still, my brain feels like it got a good workout 🙂

[@Niftiest112]

@@paularmstrong6471 Here is how I got to 7. We can all agree on it being a black triangle. Looking at the puzzle in columns, the horizontal and vertical lines on the 3 sets of triangles follow the pattern of having two of the same color for both vertical and horizontal lines. Column 1 has 2 black horizontal and 2 yellow vertical. Column 2 has 2 blue horizontal and 2 black vertical. Column 3 is the odd one out and answer 7 satisfies the sequence with their being 2 blue horizontal 2 yellow vertical on the obvious black triangle. I don't really understand why they'd include a right answer as a wrong answer, even if 3 is considered more right.

[@kieronleatherdale6717]

For Q3 option 7: Each row and column has 3 diff colour triangles so must be black triangle. Excluding options 1,2,4,6,8. Each row and column has two vertical bars the same colour and two horizontal bars the same colour. This excludes option 3 as the vertical is blue and horizontal yellow meaning the row and column would have three different colour bars whereas the other colours and rows have two of one colour and one of another. Excludes option 5 as horizontal is yellow. Option 7 gives all criteria above making a pattern.

[@Lswartz]

He literally gave the answer, its 3

[@Tom2941]

If you look at the patterns in the rows and columns, then 7 has to be your answer. If you look at which "creature" is missing in the overall pattern (having nothing to do with rows and columns), then 3 is your answer. Either answer is logically, completely acceptable. Which a person chooses, is determined by which pattern he sees first or values more!

[@affidavit4]

Yeah I believe 7 is actually the most logical answer

[@Randyolsson]

Also trying to wrap my head around 7 not being correct here

[@Vova3iLvova]

i picked 7 too, i dont understand how its 3

[@env0x]

"You mustve thought you were pretty smart huh well youre not smart. That was easy" God damnit jordan why u gotta ruin my 20 seconds of moderate confidence

[@oldmonk9997]

No! You're smart bucko! Pat yourself on the back right fucking now!

[@oldmonk9997]

@danyle Robinson *were

[@fallen1world294]

@danyle Robinson You barely even coordinated that sentence accurately, I would worry if I were you.

[@ericcarlson6815]

The fact that you're even watching these lecture videos willingly is pretty good evidence that you're not in a bad position

[@legodude19999]

@danyle Robinson let's see you weld together a roll cage, or a sluce box back together in the pouring rain. Try working on your own car yourself. You might know a bunch of languages, but that does not mean you are smart

[@shattynatty27]

I was skeptical of the validity of IQ tests until I found the correct solutions to those 3 puzzles

[@darknexusknight]

Nice one

[@gosiama480]

Conor Larkin 😂

[@elizat1265]

The question is: how long did it take you to solve it?

[@shattynatty27]

Eliza T 6 months give or take

[@thz4326]

Conor Larkin solid

[@TripleIProductions]

I think it highly depends on stress level as well. I was able to find the right answer relatively fast after pausing (which means i technically didn't have to pause). But if I hadn't been able to pause or if I was sitting in that class, my mind would go into overdrive and I wouldn't be able to find the right answer due to the many external pressures (time ticking, social pressuee, distractions, racing with peers, knowing its being recorded, lack of focus etc). Relaxation/comfort increases IQ.

[@infoharvester]

I agree

[@Jmzz542]

it's more about the lack of distractions than the relaxation itself. no stress means there are no distractions so you can focus.

[@TripleIProductions]

@@Jmzz542depends if "lack of distractions/ stress = relaxation" (or not). I would argue, we are saying the same but in opposite ways.

[@Evolved_Monkey]

3:33 why is it 3?

[@gingerroot8802]

Agreed. I took an IQ test when I was a teen (a legit one as well) and scored an 84 on it. I promise you I am no where near that in actuality.. When testing again under different circumstances and when being treated for mental health issues I actually scored relatively high at 120. The first time around I had such bad anxiety and concentration issues that I would have rather had my arm cut off at the time lol I suffer from aspergers and ADHD so it makes sense that setting matters a lot.

[@aamirnazir1740]

for question 3. The triangle will be black because every row has unique color of triangles. As for the lines, for every yellow horizontal line, there is only a blue vertical line possible. Similarily for blue horizontal, black vertical and for black horizontal only yellow vertical is used. Hence option 3 is correct because it has a black triangle, yellow horizontal and blue vertical.

[@radoslav2913]

they really are pretty simple if you don't panic and just look at the easy patterns. I would imagine having such tests with 6 or 7 different colors now that would be challenging. 3 colors is too simple

[@marcotinnirello6010]

There is another answer, which is 7. logic is that each row has to have 2 horizontals the same colour and the third horizontal in the row being another. And 7 does that. Both 3 and 7 could be answers, depending on which logic rule one applies.

[@Snowblaze_]

​​@@marcotinnirello6010 7 is incorrect, because then you'd have 4 total vertical yellow lines (instead of 3) and 2 total vertical blue lines (instead of 3), as well as 4 total horizontal blue lines (instead of 3) and 2 total horizontal yellow lines (instead of 3). - We aim to have 3 of each color for each shape.

[@CR4V3Y]

Each line pattern is used thrice except for the missing set.

[@kevinbellock6825]

@@marcotinnirello6010 no, there is a correct answer which is 3. These tests are designed in a way where an incorrect answer can seem to make sense. but any reasoning you use will not definitely point to only the incorrect answer. each horizontal/vertical line combination appears 3 times, and every row and column has 3 different colored triangles. There is only one correct answer. 7 doesn't make sense because nowhere else does a horizontal blue appear with a vertical yellow on top. These questions are almost always phrased "which is the MOST correct"

[@greasemonkey1199]

Rip to all those that failed the first one and were then called dumb

[@LecherousLizard]

I failed the first one (knew it was a triangle, but expected 4 dots for some reason), but were correct on the other two, because I knew how the test worked by then.

[@loodlebop]

I got them all right and still feel dumb because it was just patterns and I felt self satisfied for finding a dam pattern lol

[@Super-wx6br]

I got them all right but I still feel stupid because I thought both of the sides corresponded to each other at first

[@chenugent]

It just depends how hard you try, seems like with some people it’s just an ego thing

[@russianbot2179]

I got them right but I felt like it took too long. If it was a bomb to defuse I would be blowd up

[@jrow96]

4:47 “We’ll get to that in a minute” *immediately gets into that*

[@slowster2945]

One minute in Peterson time is like 0.4sec in "normie" time.

[@slowster2945]

@Tom de Visser Ever see Malcom in the Middle? "My brain is like a bee hive. And every bee has a brain like yours." It's funny how he points out that speed is important in intelligence measuring. Like we never referred to the dumb as "slow" before.

[@S0loStr]

best comment

[@johnnytucker6709]

I was listening to him say that when I started reading your comment 😂 and that's exactly what he did lol

[@matthewgillespie2835]

Haha. But he was referring to how he was gonna talk ab how the lsats and SATs were tests of (crystalized) intelligence. Not ab how he was gonna get to talking about crystalized intelligence in general in a minute.

[@ZarviroffSerge]

3:57 it's not 3, it's 7. Black triangle is missing. Horizontal line must be black or blue. Vertical - black or yellow. Lines are in 2 to 1 repeating pattern.

[@Tom2941]

Logically, that is a perfectly good answer! If you look at the patterns in the rows and columns, then 7 has to be your answer. If you look at which "creature" is missing in the overall pattern (having nothing to do with rows and columns), then 3 is your answer. Either answer is logically, completely acceptable. Which a person chooses, is determined by which pattern he sees first or values more!

[@ZarviroffSerge]

@@Tom2941 earlier in that video Dr. Peterson explains what an IQ test is, it's about evaluating one's intelligence, which determines one's ability to see patterns, for which the ability to hold several variables in imagination at once is required. If you apply your intelligence and do that, you come up with 7. It's like maths. You can't have more or fewer answers to a problem, than all _possible_ solutions to that problem output. Dr. Peterson was giving a lecture about IQ testing, why we have it etc., he wasn't really solving that page, and actually it's a pretty subtle one. If he was really going through that IQ test, he'd pick 7 too.

[@NKNeptune]

one of the most fascinating video's i have seen for quite some time!

[@cheerpack6558]

Edit: I changed the original comment because you all really need to let it go, it has been a year, get a life.

[@Vitross]

Well thats not exactly a problem with them. IQ tests are meant to be taken without hyper specialisation in them. Its possible to warp any test. Thats like saying that the problem with entrance exams is that the more times you take it the better you become at it. Yea its true and yea then that might not reflect that that guy should be accepted into university if he had taken 800 entrance exams beforehand. But eventually he will face real challenges that his test repetition hasnt prepared him for and it will show.

[@cheerpack6558]

@Vitross Absolutely. But it also shows that IQ tests limit themselves on certain cognitive abilities. It is not like he took the very same test every day, but tried to do as many different, well designed IQ tests as possible. I do not say that IQ tests are worthless. But they surely aren‘t the best way to measure ones potential. And certainly not in one sitting.

[@Vitross]

@@cheerpack6558 Well he might have taken "different" ones, but they arent really that different, its like when you heard a 1000 riddles. You might hear one thats technically new but its using so many of the same puns and structures that its easy for you to figure it out. I personally would say they are the best way to measure ones potential. What other way do you know thats better than IQ tests? Remember just because they arent perfect and its possible to do better, doesnt mean they arent the best if there isnt any contemporary way thats better.

[@cheerpack6558]

@Vitross Exactly, its like 1000 riddles and nothing more. When taking the test you only do it once. So your result is more like a performance rather than an accurate representation of your mental and physicsl capabilities. That is not enough empirical data to make a fair conclusion about ones intelligence. Taking these tests is pretty redundant. There is a reason why these tests are illegal for companies to use at an interview.

[@Vitross]

@@cheerpack6558 Is it a perfect representation of what we can do? No. Is it the best we got at the moment? Yes

[@abrown6539]

Here's the problem with this sort of IQ test: in order make the questions more challenging, you have to increase the complexity. But past a certain threshold of complexity, there is no longer necessarily a unique right answer. There is the pattern the test maker intended, but there may be others that are equally valid, and the IQ test is no longer measuring IQ, it is measuring the similarity between the test maker's mind and the test taker's. For example, Go to 3:56 and pause the video. The answer (the test maker says) is #3. There is a triangle of each color, blue, black, and yellow in each row and column, so the missing figure must have a black triangle. The crosses over the triangles are vertical yellow over horizontal black (appears three times), vertical black over horizontal blue (appears three times), and vertical blue over horizontal yellow (appears twice). So obviously, the answer is #3, a black triangle with the "missing" cross over it. BUT.... Let's start with agreeing that the triangle in the answer must be black. Looking for a pattern we notice that the prompt can have exactly two color-matching horizontal bars in each row, exactly two color-matching horizontal bars in each column, exactly two color-matching vertical bars in each row, and exactly two color-matching vertical bars in each column... but the only answer that will serve to create this pattern is #7. Choosing #3 creates an asymmetry in that the second row and the third column have one bar of EACH color (both horizontal and vertical), unlike the others. So why is the first pattern correct and the second pattern wrong? It isn't, obviously. #3 is the correct choice for the pattern the test maker had in mind, but #7 is the correct choice for a different, but equally valid pattern. So if I give #3 for the answer and you give #7, is my IQ higher than yours? The test would say so, but the conclusion is unsound. This is an inevitable consequence of making the prompt richer in information - multiple patterns can be found and without any logically conclusive basis for the "right" answer, the test will give unreliable results.

[@mcsynk]

Nice find. I think that actually makes this question better. Answer 3 satisfies more patterns than 7. Answer 3 gives three vertical bars of every colour, and three horizontal bars of each colour. I think this is the most important pattern to consider. There are other patterns though. If you consider your colour and orientation matched bars par row/column, answer 7 makes for a less balanced pattern overall, because you get: - two rows with matching horizontal blue vs one black and no yellow; - two rows with matching vertical yellow vs one black and no blue. This is still a clean and beautiful pattern, but on the page it's distributed unevenly according to the diagonal logic established by the triangles, whereas if you look at the yellow horizontals and the blue verticals ... sorry I'm giving up. I can't prove you definitively wrong. I do want to thank you for bringing this up because it's something I used to think but now I don't (that the testers failed to see other valid patterns). Consider also that the wrong answer to the question might also be the one you take too long to actually decide on. Some extra intelligence can reveal possible answers that then slow you down - these questions may then be testing something like decisiveness. Also, maybe the testers take into account which wrong answer you chose... You'd have to be very high IQ to be interested in making these tests so I wouldn't be so quick to think you're smarter than them or that you saw something they missed! haha!

[@prata6938]

Well, I got 7 as well. However, after reading the first reply that u got from @mcsynk, i found a pattern that doesn't require rows or columns. If you look at it, each colour triangle has a different horizontal and vertical bar. Eg. the blue triangles never have a repeating horizontal or vertical bar colour. Hence, by that logic, the last black triangle would have a blue vertical bar and a yellow horizontal bar. In hindsight, I think no. 3 would be better if the test doesn't specify that the triangles are in rows or columns.

[@tibofordeyn1529]

EXACTLY, I got so annoyed by that problem! Thanks for typing it out bro this should be top comment.

[@abrown6539]

@@mcsynk I think you've kind of just restated the reasoning I gave for #3 being the right answer to the test maker's way of thinking, but you looked at the bars individually rather than as a cross. But if the test makers had seen another pattern that was not logically excluded, they surely would have excluded it! The data from these tests is easier to analyze if we say the test taker either saw "the" pattern or they didn't, in which case the wrong answers should be distributed more or less randomly - which we would expect if they are all equally wrong. If you have a second answer that is actually right, but in a different way, how do you interpret the results? I think if the test makers were aware of this alternative pattern, they would have changed #7 to exclude it. Of course, with this much complexity, they might well have created another such pattern when they made the change. I think you're giving the test makers too much credit.

[@akashsahi6874]

I actually reached the answer 7 with this method

[@adam7402]

When I was in the 8th grade they measured my IQ at like 86 or something of the like. I was so distraught I kept the test results which were given to me when I turned 18. I'm now the lead engineer at a particle accelerator facility, I only have 4 years experience. I do new stuff and solve new problems every day. When the staff are really struggling guess who they call. IQ is a measure of one thing, how fast you can solve problems, not your general ability to solve them.

[@erikhordnes7408]

Would be interesting to se what score you would get on an iq test today

[@Melontusk101]

I agree

[@adam7402]

@@erikhordnes7408 I'm sure it would still be low. The time constraint is the problem.

[@jmodified]

I test very high but usually time is an issue for me also. On a typical standardized test I barely have enough time to finish or don't quite have enough time to finish, and rarely have time to check anything. So a two hour test takes me two hours - if it takes someone else two and a half hours to get the same number of questions correct, they would score horribly. We'd both have similar capabilities, it's just that one of us would be 20% faster at relatively simple problems. And like you I'm known for solving engineering problems (I work in materials engineering and software visualization research) that others can't.

[@amandahuginkiss4098]

Brag much? Newsflash - no one cares.

[@darkilluminator]

for the last IQ test, im pretty sure its No.7 and not 3, let me explain why: Triangle: There are two ways to figure out what triangle it is, first you can see that if u look at the diagonals from right to left, all the triangles match, so you can figure out that the missing one is black, you can also find that every row has every colour of triangle. Rectangles: we must compare the horizontal rectangles and the vertical rectangles separately, but they have the same pattern. If you see the rows, out of the 3 rectangles, 2 are the same colour, and one is different. Same pattern applies to columns, Now if you check the second row, the vertical rectangle can be either yellow or black, same thing goes with the 3rd column. checking the second row again, the horizontal rectangle can either be black or blue, same thing goes with the 3rd coloumn I think that's enough evidence that its No. 3. Note: Now stating that, we must also consider that there are millions of different ways to correlate, group, and associate data, maybe there's another pattern or different way to look at this pattern.

[@greggrozdanis5737]

I find that a huge problem I personally had was overthinking questions. Its like I used to solve problems by thinking "harder", but I got radically better when I take a more relaxed approach and not try to overcomplicate the problems. That last question is actually not too bad, but my brain was looking for some complicated pattern that simply wasn't there, and it took me a minute to just think to count each shape and color lol. Occam's Razor: "The simplest explanation is usually the best one"

[@santimda1990]

Well, you can find a pattern that is logical but just different from the one that the person that created the puzzle thought. That's (partly) why IQ tests are not very reliable. As a general rule, I think it is better to analyze deeply instead of just assuming what the difficulty level is and "guessing" accordingly (which is useful only to score better in a test, but serves no real purpose otherwise).

[@yes-vy6bn]

this. in number 3 i got overwhelmed of the possible complexity of the patterns like for example interrelated patterns, but then it all just comes back to "find a simple pattern then log it into memory and find a new one"

[@yes-vy6bn]

​@@santimda1990 you're focused too much on single questions. there is a reason IQ tests have like 40 questions, and its to be able to average across similar difficulty questions that may have different answers due to the relationship between complexity and patterns failing a 100IQ question doesn't make you sub-100IQ. failing 5 100IQ questions in a row makes you very likely to be sub-100IQ IQ tests are very reliable

[@flyingturret208thecannon5]

Funnily enough, I'd argue Occam's Razor as to why the "correct" answer is overcomplicated & wrong. It tries to fit too many criteria, thus being less probable.

[@robertrichards4930]

Occam's Razor is not the end all be all. People regurgitate that little "rule" way too much.

[@juangomezfuentes8825]

In my home region in Spain the old people use to say: "the dumb kid of a rich man can work his way up to lieutenant and the smart kid of a poor man can work his way up to lieutenant".

[@deviladvoc]

can you explain why a dumb kid of a rich man can work his way up to lieutenant? isnt this kind of situation suppose to be a dumb kid of a rich man dont have to work as hard? because like money or influence so to speak

[@phresh7784]

Lieutenants arent the brightest bud...

[@deviladvoc]

@Lifes a Beach lol i asked a simple question and you had to go down a level to insult me? ridiculous.

[@deviladvoc]

@@phresh7784 it seems like im missing something or that we have different meaning of the word lieutenant? what do you mean they arent the brightest? arent they like one of the higher up ranks in the military?

[@malcolmvexxed9208]

@@deviladvoc It depends where you are from, but in most armies you can either join as an officer or join as a jnr. To join as an officer you usually need to have uni equivalent quals. So if you are rich you can afford to go to Uni, scrape by to get those quals, join as an officer and make it to lieutenant in 1 or 2 ranks. If you are poor you cant afford uni, you start at the very bottom and work your way to lieutenant in 8 or more ranks and it takes a very long time to do it the latter way

[@CharlieTMZ]

Man!!.. the way Mr. Peterson explains all of this makes me want to study, he´s so entretaining.

[@jamesrothwell1738]

I’ve always tested 125-135 and I got kicked out of school for selling shit and ended up going into the trades. Went into HVAC-Refrigeration Had a service van within 12 months with no tech school experience. 2 years in making $35/hour and I’m flying up the ranks. Got thrown into the fire and passed with flying colors. I don’t think I’m crazy special but what Jordan said makes sense to me. Im not better than the old guys with lots of experience. But every time I see a new problem I troubleshoot it, ask for help if I need it, wrap my head around what was wrong, what could’ve been the variables involved that lead up to that going wrong. And what the techs before me had done wrong or should have done as well to prevent it from getting there or to fix the cause not the symptoms. Then I file away that knowledge and next time I see that probablem or anything similar I bust that knowledge right out and fly through the service call. So I’m just learning faster than most of my peers. My father is also in the trade and got a BS from UMASS Amherst with a 4.0 GPA. He flew to the top ranks at TRANE before he even finished his apprenticeship he was already running BEMS jobs in 25 story sky scrapers in Boston. 500 Boylston st for example. He planned, and oversaw the entire HVAC install job there. So the intelligence aspect is definitely hereditary.

[@pawntakesqueen9307]

I was at the opticians earlier but there were so many people before me, I had a huge eye queue

[@lostecho4394]

Ffs

[@Davidowalls19]

I.Q. myself to laugh at this joke, but it gets postponed every time...

[@mr.h4267]

Did your PUPILS become RETINALLY detached?

[@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou]

Go to your room and think about what you've done

[@kristinareeves612]

Asshole

[@arnoldziffle8779]

So if 83 IQ is a non-employable level, shouldn't' it also be a non-voting level as well?

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

Arnold Ziffle No just because someone is not as intelligent as me doesn’t mean am right and they are wrong. And they still are people not giving them the same rights as everyone else might encourage violence.

[@purpleanex]

Ted Cruz ..."There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." ... Isaac Asimov

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

purpleanex well guess Isaac Asimov watches rich and morty than. Just like Socrates that’s how he came up with his hate for democracy. Intelligence does not equal to right. I can have a degree in physics take a 9th grade multiple choice physics test and get a worse grade than a random crack head. For me my mother is incredibly stupid for believing in the Christian god for my mother I am incredibly stupid for not believing. She barely finished college and has an IQ of 87. I have nearly double that but that doesn’t mean that I am right and she is wrong. Everyone’s opinion is actually more likely to be right than just one guys opinion and that’s just based on probability. Also collective knowledge way surpasses an individuals knowledge.

[@MaFd0n]

Yeah I would agree to that statement Arnold. I would even go as far as denying sub 115 IQ to vote. Having said that IQ is not everything and denying people freedom of speech, regardless of their intelligence, would be cruel and a leap back to the medieval era. Plus you people who get to the "top of society" do not have an IQ of 83 or lower, meaning that some very bad people have very high IQ and thus know very well what they do and why they do things. The IQ of Hitler was not 83 or lower; nor was Stalin's. I think it's safe to state those men had an IQ of 115+ and their actions caused ~30M people to be killed, tortured, etc. In short, the problem is not the dumb people, it's very intelligent people who are ... well yea ... delusional & insane.

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

MaFd0n A plus 115 IQ would just end up making a libertarian oligarchy. And that just weird it’s looks hypocritical.

[@Legitti]

Starting to feel myself even more rare

[@The-Butcher-Jaegerkorpset]

On question 3; Answer Choice 3 would violate the pattern 3 times., Choice 7 would only POSSIBLY violate the pattern 1 time (creating 2 blue horizontal bars on the diagonal line from Row 2 Col 3 down to Row 3 Col 2.) Choice 3 violates the existing pattern horizontally on Row 2, Vertically on Col 3, and Diagonal Row 2 Col 3 up to Row 1 Col 2.

[@AnthoMorvan]

Agreed !

[@reconquista1911]

Those below 87 could go to study gender studies.

[@williampennjr.4448]

or just work for CNN.

[@khatharrmalkavian3306]

Indoctrinating and agitating the people who are already motivated to seek the destruction of society. Great plan.

[@AwoudeX]

plot twist, they're already there ;D

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

I think it's almost the other way around - those who run with a soundbite of what they believe people who study gender studies believe, might be. www.religjournal.com/pdf/ijrr10001.pdf One of the few studies on IQ in the different departments. Anthropology is up there. But being an "opportunist" at ones IQ level, doesn't take a genius. I get the feeling that people who study gender are the same people studying the misuse of gender studies.

[@squarerootof2]

I think Dr. Peterson didn't want to say it because he knew those fucking fanatics would probably set fire to everything in sight. If your only ambition in life is to do gender studies, then probably it's because you're too dumb to do anything else. The good thing is you can always delude yourself and blame society or discrimination for your dumbness.

[@herrreinsch]

*Very smart people down below,* I know that because they said it.

[@Josh-hh2cu]

herrreinsch “I am very VERY smart and I have an IQ of 150, making me superior....” yadda yadda yadda

[@LethalShadow]

I don't know about others, but I am well aware my IQ does not make me superior in any significant way. I'm a lazy f*ck who's coasting through life with minimum effort. I have met so many people who were objectively better people than me, or worked harder and achieved more than I ever will... People who think their IQ is the end-all be-all of their worth as a person are truly pathetic and seriously need to do some introspection.

[@SheepWaveMeByeBye]

Because anonymous dick measuring contests are so much !!fun!!.

[@romeoneverdies]

IQ does make you "smart" dosen't mean it makes you wise....

[@romeoneverdies]

IQ makes you more "smart" about what you are doing does not mean it makes you more efficient and even then dosen't mean you WANT to be efficient. everybody has a different life and hurdles and anybody goes about it their own way . Jordan is very wise i must say and he is right that people with very low IQ dont nécéssarily have a place in this world to contribute and he is right about it being a problem when we cant find a place for them in society. this problem will grow as automation takes over virtually all occupations humans can do , including working at McD ... whithin the next 5 years robots will join humans in our daily tasks from cutting grass to complex jobs like cooking and some construction jobs with AI and complex systemes replacing management and clerical jobs . Being smart and being employed are going to be two different things and very soon only litle niches of jobs will remain mostly arts , repairing (technical, plumbing , electrical etc) and programming and even then programming may become obsolete aswell.

[@Elysium346]

Its funny when you are searching for obscure patterns and they lead to dead ends, and then you decide to look for the simple pattern and its correct -- as is what happened to me for the first question, If I had been more lazy and followed gut instinct and went with the simplest pattern I would have reached the answer much faster, but from my lessons in academia and experiences in life make me want to see "beyond" simplest pattern because If it feels too easy I feel I might be missing something or being tricked lmao! 3rd one was a nice question, my cautious approach paid real dividends there. Just sharing my thoughts on this exercise!

[@ryanbrock4836]

I might be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that the answer for the one at 3:30 isn't 3 but 7. Pattern recognition tells us that the colour of the shape is black, but also that all rows and columns have two repeating colours, in the first column there are two vertical yellow strips in the second they're black, the same goes for the rows too, the first row has two yellow vertical strips and the last one has two black. Using these variables we've recognised, we just have to look at what singular colour would create two repeating vertical strips where the question mark is. The answer is Yellow, meaning number 7.

[@locus1289]

you're a retard

[@ryanlim3193]

I got 7 too

[@mawdervaart]

I was tested to have an IQ of about 70, which I've always boasted about. I always thought that IQ was a digit for percentile, and i thought i was top 30%.. Damn.. Sucks to be me

[@conceptuallyspeaking9344]

Reverse virtue signalling? Haha, we can't win can we ;p

[@samueldarenskiy6893]

What do you do for a job?

[@matthewwhite4963]

That is actually quite funny.

[@kurtbrown1435]

How/where were you tested?

[@Forestgravy90]

nobody who constructs sentences that well can have an IQ of 70

[@lizwynaco2222]

The more I know, the more I know I don't know.

[@ReCamHead]

Liz Wynaco- Eyyyyy. Philosophy 101

[@LOLLYPOPPE]

That’s a logical impossible statement

[@insertname7750]

John think of you brain as an island the area of the island represents your intellect the water represents what you don’t know the edge of where the water and the island meets represents your ignorance or what you don’t know the more you know the more you know what you don’t know as the island gets bigger the edge gets bigger and the the ocean gets smaller

[@insertname7750]

Your cooking a burger and making fries it’s not that hard we have machines making complicated cars if it’s too hard to make a burger I can’t even

[@briansalter5225]

yes but there is a lot you don't know that you don't know yo don't know.

[@g-noraturab3052]

Thank u helpful 😊

[@vanir_freyr]

The yellow blue and black triangles and cross: what is the rule? I came up with: Base of triangle one is the horizontal line, base of triangle two is the vertical line, and base of triangle three is whatever color is not yet shown.

[@Antonio-24]

The colours of the triangles of the first two figures of the line shows you the colors of the two lines of the last figure.

[@VesuviasV]

Each part the triangle, the horizontal line and vertical line is represented in 3 different colors. Each color for each part appears across the whole puzzle exactly 3 times. So the triangle is yellow 3 times, blue 3 times and black 3 times. Same for the horizontal and vertical. Just pick the color for the part that has at that point only appeared twice.

[@juleswinnfield1437]

As a programmer with an average IQ, I was crying right up until the point he said if you can't program computers - you're going to be left behind...

[@programaths]

We need programmers with an average IQ (although, they tend to be in the higher average, closer to 115STD15 than 100), because gifted programmers doing simple programming is a waste of resources. And when the thinking is done, it's the typing with minor decisions that an "average IQ" programmer can take and that can be revised later if needed.

[@juleswinnfield1437]

@@Luke-hr3yg Haha, those online tests are dodgy. Being a second year engineering student should be a good sign :) Stay safe

[@danielstory2761]

@@Luke-hr3yg online tests are useless, if you really do want to know go to a psychologist’s office, it’ll take half a day though

[@programaths]

@@danielstory2761 Depends if it's FSIQ (all the WAIS subtests) and if the psychologist need to give you harder tests or refine your results (if you've huge differences in subtests, some can be ignored some can be replaced). But for most people, it's indeed quick ^^ Also, quite a bunch of psychologist skip the anamnesis...

[@scotland369]

Yeah but now all the programmers are getting outsourced to cheaper countries such as India

[@hatokiri]

Man Jordan is nice. He chose 3 easy question to boost his students' confidence.

[@ethanfishell1930]

If that last question was easy, I must be an idiot.

[@beastkiller_9998]

@@ethanfishell1930 You're not, that question in particular requires more time to figure out, looking at the patterns but if you figured it out in a reasonable time, you're good.

[@ethanfishell1930]

@@beastkiller_9998 took me 15 minutes.

[@beastkiller_9998]

@@ethanfishell1930 Not bad, you were willing to figure it out so that automatically makes you smart!

[@kanehorn937]

IQ tests don’t prove you are smart

[@jesterlead]

I've been a CEO for a long time with a few companies. One of the companies I interviewed for the CEO position asked me to take an IQ test (they had hired a CFO that had a serious mental illness) and although it's technically illegal, I was comfortable with the ask. The psychologist who spent the day with me and administered the test (along with a personality test) came back the week later and asked if I wanted to know the results of my IQ test? I said "no". He was pretty shocked and said nobody has ever said, "No?!". I told him that if it is higher than what I think it is, then I've been underperforming my entire life, and if it's lower than what I think then I'd prefer to live in ignorant bliss thinking I am smarter than I really am. I was hired to run the company a couple weeks later...

[@harb9265]

Nice

[@ragnareurope]

Well, it means that they hired you because you don’t like to face the reality? Impressive.

[@luiscamacho1996]

They hired an outsider to run their company instead of promoting their experienced workers? There's a serious issue with that company.

[@jesterlead]

@@luiscamacho1996 Always good to promote from within obviously but they didn't have anyone with the skill set to run the company.

[@kakashisensei7387]

understandable@@supersense5924

[@petersalmon2695]

If I had a teacher like Jordan I think I would have enjoyed school for the lessons instead of just turning up for the brilliant best ever dinners.

[@popdop0074]

Maybe this Peterson but he has absolutely lost it and exists as nothing but a right wing grifter

[@inoderlulzer5163]

@@popdop0074 How do you mean, he lost it? ( i don't particularly _dis_like him, but I kind of get why people would )

[@Matt-cv6on]

Fun to watch lectures on youtube, but if you were in his class you'd be too worried about writing down every offhand remark in fear of it being on the final to actually process and enjoy the content. College is just broken.

[@thebigpicture2032]

This is a terrible lecture - multiple issues with what he’s saying and implying.

[@j99044]

@@thebigpicture2032like what lmao

[@richardherkert7436]

Never took an IQ test, but watched Rick and Morty so my IQ should be over 9000 :)

[@sergame3140]

Shlim shlom slippidy doo

[@stuffbuttz6428]

Hahaha yeah people who watch the big bang theory believe that too hahaha.

[@ChrisM-bn5vr]

I swear people watch one episode of Rick and Morty and think they are the most quirky or intelligent person alive.

[@Michael-jv2cn]

Isn't the creator of that show a pedophile?

[@sergame3140]

@@Michael-jv2cn i sure hope so or i will need a refund

[@SunnehBoii]

Idk why people get all hung up on IQ tests. Jordan perfectly explains how it is only a tool to see how fast one can produce intelligence and crystallize it. (From his wording, I interpret that as acquiring, storing, and recalling knowledge) Almost all people can do that, but people with higher IQs are able to do it faster. That is why he likens it to a race, and the higher the IQ the faster you are at running. That being said you have to be RUNNING to make that high IQ do anything for you. It is still up the the individual to work on acquiring knowledge, and they must have the wisdom to use it. It is part of the picture, but not the entire picture.

[@RohannvanRensburg]

This is why conscientiousness correlates so well with success. You can be a strong runner, but you have to be willing to run to get anywhere. You can also be a mediocre runner with a strong will to keep on running, and not only will you eventually outpace people who are not as willing, you have the potential to outpace people not interested in running.

[@SunnehBoii]

@@RohannvanRensburg I was surprised at how many people didn't get the real message from the lecture.

[@RohannvanRensburg]

@@SunnehBoii Same. People seem to be incredibly fixated on the supremacy of IQ and ironically express this as insecurity by saying it doesn't matter.

[@mirko85able]

I think people got scared/angry after the IQ->job association. A lot of people interested in this are people still developing their craft and it is easy to think you are too dumb to do what you want to do in life.

[@petra07]

I still like to believe that being too lazy to finish an IQ test is proof of the highest IQ possible.

[@larryroyovitz7829]

I started out as a computer programmer, and moved up the "ladder", and at one point was doing process improvement. I would sit with teams, while they walked me through processes they do, and I would be flabbergasted at how manual and unnecessary so much of it was. I would always say, "if I have to do something more than 5 times and it's the same thing, I'm automating it". That was some of my favorite work.

[@nemiw4429]

Im a Software Developer (the arrogant wud call it S. Engineer 😂 yea, no.) and I found the ppl here in Luzern, Switzerland in our fild are very inrelligent. I tested mine at 116 in Zürich and I perform good, but nowhere near top. Sometimes actually, but Im often impresses by my colleagues.

[@wifegrant]

Doing repetitive jobs give me panic attacks. Something about repetition gives me anxiety.

[@naitomea14]

​@@nemiw4429 Wie vell het de Test kostet und wie lang gaht so eine? Han mich nie testet, well i gar nie han welle wüsse wie dumm i ben xD Naja, am Schluss esch au velles eifach Erfahrig. Schaffe sit 4 Mönet ide IT Sec. Und i muess au no velles lehre und verstah, aber usde Erfahrig use lehrsch vell. I bruuche eig. emmer e tatsächliche case wo i das au grad awende chan, was i weiss/glehrt han. Im Luftleere Ruum lehre wie e Firewall ganz genau funktioniert oder Layer 4 genau gaht, wenn du e Websiite uufrüefsch, esch mega schwerig. I kenne niemerd wo ned au Biispiel bruucht und so chan theoretische is praktische ineneh chan. Ja, die bi eus ide Bude (IT Sec Bude), wüsse enorm vell, aber sie händ au meh Erfahrig wie i ^^ Und sie sind z.T au hoch spezialisiert. Mer händ eine de kennt sich verdammi guet met WAFs uus, aber bi Firewall fragt de Dude bereits mich, wo erst sit 4 Mönet met Firewalls schaffet xD Und denne gehts anderi wo mega vell wüsset bide Firewall, aber alles über Layer 4 es Rätsel esch. Somit kei Plan.... Eusi Devs wüsset au nur limitiert sachene und müend oft au pröble, bes sie was händ, was funktioniert und sicher esch (als Security Bude wetsch ned agriifbar sii, Image und so...).

[@shabadooshabadoo4918]

My line is more around 30 times. But im barely even a programmer so the time investment is longer for me.

[@mathematics5573]

I did an IQ test last week and scored an IQ of 20.

[@Wolf-ki5eo]

lucky pal

[@mathematics5573]

@@Wolf-ki5eo I did another test after, and scored a value of 155 billion trillion.

[@user-fd6ji8sz8e]

Mine -70 IQ

[@INTJerk]

At least you can spell IQ. Could be worse?

[@mathematics5573]

@@INTJerk then I did another test and scored 155million billion.

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

What's interesting about these examples is when I was in graduate school, the psychology department did a cohort study, on IQ, with students that were taking heavily intensive math courses (topology, partial differential equations, differential geometry, group theory, advanced mathematics of physical scientist, and so forth). At the end, we took a final IQ test upon finishing our dissertation and defense examination. Of all the mathematics courses, one in particular, was found to correlate a small but a significant enough change in IQ scores: group theory. We utilize group theory, to make molecular quantum mechanical calculations much easier to deal with. Group theory is all about symmetry, rotations, inversions, and pattern recognition. As soon as I looked at one of those pictures, I instantly started thinking about group theory and group theory problems. I know, overall, IQ can't readily be changed but taking courses of that caliber does make examinations of this type more approachable.

[@victor7574]

How's your cat doing?

[@masterchief5603]

"Math is the language of universe.." Idk if I should take that and rephrase it to "Math is the language of most appropriate way to clearly transmit information between any other entity."

[@sidarthur8706]

it would be interesting to know the measured IQs of people on that course both before and after learning it

[@flyingturret208thecannon5]

If IQ scores can be raised by taking group theory specifically for pattern recognition, then you're studying the type of problems that specific IQ test is based on. I had always figured that IQ tests are based on raw intellect, and not something you could study for. Isn't that what the SAT claims to be?

[@TheEvvanw]

I took group theory in college as well and would agree. I got my degree in mathematics and as a whole, u get used to answering questions like this and even taking it a step further where you have to write the correct answer in the form of a formal proof. When you take classes like real analysis, graph theory, upper division geometry that's when the geniuses really start to show, cause proofs are different then any other math where you have to visualize things in your head as opposed to writing scratch work down on paper like you do in calculus. Some people are not good at that type of thinking, but the people who are always outshine the rest in those settings

[@Kryptik33]

Thank you Dr. Peterson. I needed to hear this.👍🏻

[@edwardroscoe9020]

I have an issue with the third IQ question. There are two correct answers 1. The first is horizontal line is the colour of the first triangle, the vertical line is the colour of the second triangle and the triangle is the colour not yet used. This gives you answer 3. 2. The second is the third triangle is the colour not used by the first or second triangle, and you never have all three colours of vertical lines, and never have all three colours of horizontal lines, and the colour have the same number of colours used in each pattern. This gives you the answer 7. Answer 3 seems better if the lines are to be viewed independent of each other as it can be extended independently. Answer 7 seems better if the patterns are to be viewed as a grid as the rules work horizontally and vertically I can also make a argument for a black triangle, yellow vertical, and black horizontal. That would work taking the diagonal pattern bottom left to top right. (This would look great as wallpaper.) This is like asking what comes next 2,4,6,? The answers 8 and 10 are both right. Any assertion based on pattern is only as good as the reasoning why it will keep going. Mathologer has a great video on newtons what comes next formula that really shows the math of this kzbin.info/www/bejne/anLYh2xpgbSDmac

[@BigAndTall1020]

I noticed the same thing. I was scanning the comments to see if someone can defend why 3 is the best option. I’m still hoping someone can. Also it makes me curious, what if there’s a bad question on an IQ test. Dr. Peterson discussed studying correlations between questions and intelligence, I wonder if the opposite has been studied. Are there questions that are commonly answered incorrectly by the otherwise high scoring group? Could be a means of identifying bad questions.

[@logicodeX]

​@@BigAndTall1020 I believe 3 is the correct option: each triangle (yellow, blue, black) repeats in each column, so there's a black triangle missing. There are 3 black vertical lines and 3 yellow vertical lines present in the matrix, so of course the missing one has to be blue. And the same goes for vertical lines, the third yellow one is missing.

[@NicoAung]

It’s 3rd bc there needs to be 3 vertical blue lines

[@111178403]

@@BigAndTall1020 you want each of the 9 shapes to have 3 of each colours. By filling it in with option 3 you can fulfil this quota. Number 7 has more requirements for its' pattern, i.e 3 is more correct than 7.

[@a.b.8735]

Third question, the answer could be either 3 or 7 depending if your looking at each row the answer would be 7 but if your looking at the whole grid then the answer is 3

[@maherm2]

agree 🤝

[@The_Gelatinman]

I could tell you who's on the other end but I won't. But I really want to. Had me dying

[@kayjaad3349]

I need to knoooow.

[@CombraStudios]

I'd guess for religion studies lol

[@weebrahim]

Lesbian dance theory

[@weebrahim]

@@CombraStudios Jordan Peterson studies religion intensely, have u even watched his other lectures?

[@CombraStudios]

@@weebrahim I know, I know, and no offense to Dr. Peterson. I didn't mean those who rationally examine the validity, value and effect of religion on society, I meant the teachers who know bible from start to finish and present the biblical story as if it really happened despite scientific evidence that the history didn't happen this way

[@seen203]

Jordan Peterson indirectly warned Buzzfeed and Huffpost they needed to learn to code.

[@Softwiener4u7229]

@3:35 he said it is #3 but it is actually #7. The horizontal line must match one of the other shape's horizontal color and same with the vertical line.

[@BasicShapes]

Yup. The lines both have 2 of one color and 1 of another color. The triangles are 3 separate colors. #7 matches these rules perfectly. p.s. it's the same whether looking at the sets vertically or horizontally - it's gotta be 7!

[@Itsjettondon05]

I got a 141 on an IQ test when I was 16 and that was before I got my phone, social media and especially TikTok. Now I did an IQ test just a month ago (I’m 17 now) and scored a 125. Just connecting the dots you can tell being online for 8+ hours a day is not great for your cognitive ability.

[@AllAboutLoox]

Absolutely, also fluoride helps decrease iq even further, the more the mother consumed during pregnancy the more fucked the child is but even outside the womb fluoride consumption fucks you

[@DiseaPoto]

If you were taking free online tests, they are typically inaccurate so don’t hold yourself to it too much. ❤

[@WesleyTrades]

Have you tried to stop using a phone for a year then retaking the test to see if your Iq had gone back up?

[@jccuchvjvj]

Solid 78 right here 💪

[@peterhiser7883]

I took an IQ test in 5th grade (10 years old) and scored 118. I took a test a month ago (both were with real professionals) and scored 105 (15 years old). I gained my phone, and therefore more online access a year ago. Technology is literally rotting my brain, and it is depressing.

[@toomanymarys7355]

One of my friends in middle school had an IQ of about 75. She was a checker at Walmart for years and eventually made head cashier. That's her top. Sweet as can be and a hard worker.

[@pagecollector4856]

love the story.

[@timerson41]

I just love hearing him explain concepts in such meaningful thought processes.

[@nopenope1264]

Politically correct speech isn't my thing, fk off 😂😂😂 true

[@phoneticalballsack]

Death to smart people.

[@addiart577]

@@phoneticalballsack interesting take lol

[@generalmalaise2930]

@@phoneticalballsack correct take

[@Talia926]

The third set he showed with the triangle and the plus sign the answer is 5 not 3. Answer 3 has three colors in it and row 2 only has objects with 2 colors in them like answer 5.

[@dazaiosamu7184]

The first problem could be solved in another way, imagine that the shapes are moving in the right direction, and the dots are moving in the left direction at a step. So with this, you can basically predict every other new row without needing the other 2 shapes alongside the question mark. It's weird how you can have different approaches to solving these questions but the IQ test generally does not account for that, it only cares about the outcome/ end result.

[@marionapalm4365]

That's true. It took less than a minute to solve first one because it was easy( I say minute even tho the time required for my brain to solve it was probably less, better said I didn't count the time that passed), on second it took me a minute I'd say, and on third one I went super analytical and basically broke down entire puzzle way more and into segments analyzing each color, shape, pattern, position, direction, amount of colors, amount of shapes and so on. On third one, it obviously took me about 2-3 minutes I'd say. Now another problem you might face is what I call "end result over analysis" where you analyze your answer to make sure it is the correct one. In this hierarchy related to job position and intelligence, I currently work as a delivery driver, and I must say that being delivery driver isn't a low IQ job, as I need to have a really good memory, really good logic, I must make traffic related decisions quickly, plan out the route, and so on. Besides that I have worked many jobs, and I have a really long list of interests and hobbies and some of them I have occasionally turned into money-making sources. So yeah, IQ tests and speed at which you come up with correct results aren't reliable. I am also not the smartest or most intelligent person out there without a doubt and yes, it doesn't bother me nor do I think that I am.

[@trushbetold]

The tests are designed to determine your ability to get a correct answer, how you do that is irrelevant to IQ. Testing the differences between approaches is more akin to testing wisdom not intelligence.

[@marcokonst4144]

Wait explain I'm confused what u did in ur head so the shapes go right the dots inside go left so how does that enable the prediction of the question marked shape? I think what the test does is measure ur response time to indicate how intuitively you see patterns and recognise them, as in 3 of every shape except triangle, every shape has 1 2 3 dots except triangles having 1 3 dots so ur missing triangle, 2 dots

[@LazyBoyZR1]

It's also how quickly you get the answers.

[@Josh-cd3zf]

I solved it that way too, but I think that your approach is substantially better than Peterson's approach. For example, the third question which he presented can be solved in about 30 seconds by noticing the diagonals going down and left. From observing these diagonals, we can see that the color of the triangle will stay the same, but the color of the vertical and horizontal line will change through each diagonal. By process of elimination, it thus must be a black triangle with a blue vertical line and a yellow horizontal line. This leaves only choice three as the answer and, since speed matters on this test, this method is superior.

[@rescyn1190]

When he asked who the smartest in the university are I was instantly reminded of Pratchett. In one of the Discworld books he posited that the building itself is the smartest as it clearly absorbs intelligence; students entering in the certainty they know everything and leaving knowing they know nothing.

[@eustaceh.plimsoll6625]

ResCyn I read those books for years thinking the post of Senior Wrangler was just a funny name that Terry Pratchett made up only to discover recently that Oxford University - and perhaps others - has one.

[@mickelodiansurname9578]

As it turns out the folks that are brightest are philosophy students. They score on a par with, or higher than mathematicians and physicists.

[@borodinskyful]

@@mickelodiansurname9578 Bullshit. I say that as someone with a joint honors degree in Mathematics and Philosophy from the UK... when we studied propositional logic in Philosopy in the UK most philosopy students stuggled with it..... whereas in Mathematics we derived the whole of propositional logic from first principles which was mind blowing and well beyond what the philosopy course...

[@Jack-cq9pv]

@@eustaceh.plimsoll6625 Cambridge also has a Senior Wrangler, at least in Maths. The tradition is that, when reading out results, the reader tips their hat to the Senior Wrangler.

[@roddydykes7053]

@@mickelodiansurname9578 with that profile pic and name it’s no wonder that’s what you think. However I do agree that true philosophers are inherently smart, or at least wise. Problem is it’s pretty straightforward to just memorize a bunch of big words and excerpts from ancient texts, and base your degree off regurgitating that (the worst university professor I’ve had thus far was undoubtedly my philosophy professor)

[@noone8418]

I was told my IQ was 124. I always got the “you have so much potential “ speech as a kid. I am 47 now. Some college. I work in healthcare. I have always felt IQ is how quickly and easily you learn. It isn’t the hole picture. It’s nice to hear about other factors.

[@thecastle09]

No One whole

[@noone8418]

Retep Mullenoski 😂-10 IQ

[@NaNa-re3wc]

Mine is 145 and I got treated like I was dumb in school. Mental health issues and a shit home life made it hard to prioritize school, learned a lot about psychology from trying to help myself though 🤷🏻‍♀️ overall I’m more thankful for the trait of empathy, it’s helped me build a more meaningful life.

[@TheAnarchist99]

@@NaNa-re3wc Do you realize that 145 is borderline genius?

[@harryssonfn]

my iq is 215 that's what my opponent said in fortnite 2 years ago

[@regiuseques6333]

I figured out three before I even understood why 3 was the answer. I just knew it was, looked at it for a short bit and it clicked.

[@tonykennedy5522]

Actually we prefer the term "Warehousepeople"

[@Blox117]

i think everyone knows professional athletes are retarded

[@vladimirolujic6637]

Miroslav and Blox - Damn.

[@roddydykes7053]

Miroslav Baldzhiev I love the term “basketball-Americans” lol

[@MilkBreakMinecraft]

I work in a warehouse... I should really reassess my life...

[@joemcmahon206]

I have an IQ in the top 2% and I work in a warehouse. Checkmate, psychologists.

[@Glaedr11]

I guess this sort of clears a little bit up for me. In first grade I got an IQ test that was 138. Now, I got excellent grades growing up and and everyone noticed i was smart and stuff, but I never felt like any genius or anything. I couldn't do math in my head like a whiz, higher level math was hard for me, and I couldn't just recall any fact I heard whenever I wanted. You know, the kind of stereotypical smart person stuff. What I've really felt my whole life is just an ability to learn quickly. I can pick up any task or concept and get the basic framework cemented in my mind almost instantly. And on things that interest me, I can devote periods of time to them with extreme focus and nearly perfect them, or at least get very good. So that's how I feel smart. I guess fluid knowledge would kind of be what that is.

[@thenamen935]

Nearly the same situation for me. But I'm great at mathematics (In school I've got the highest mark one can get in maths) and I can remember new words pretty quickly but I'm not good at grammar related stuff. I've had made an IQ test when I was 5 to enter school a year before I would have normally entered. I've had a score of 132 and a few years ago I took another IQ test and scored 134. And what I find most interesting about my learning capabilties is: If I'm interested in something I just need to hear it once or read it once and I can remember it (often I can even remember the exact words). But if I'm not motivated and something doesn't wake interest in me I can read and hear it and study a lot about it but I just can't remember anything about that longer than a day. That's why I often study for a geography-exam in the night before the exam at midnight or later so it is in my short-time-memory. And what really freaks my out is: Everyone thinks I'm a living encyclopedia but I didn't feel like that's right at all until a few weeks or months ago when I realised the informations and facts I believed were common knowledge, which everyone has, aren't known to anyone around me.

[@Glaedr11]

@@thenamen935 lol sounds very similar. I cant so much as recall specific bits of information as much as a 'rough sketch' of what that information meant. Idk, hard to explain, which is probably why I feel different than everyone around me everywhere I go. It's so exciting when someone thinks the same way as me. Met my now-girlfriend and was friends with her for half a year. As soon as I realized that she undoubtedly understood how I thought and thought similarly, I asked her out and 3 years later, we plan on getting married soon. Gotta hold on to those people when you find them, lol. And yeah, sometimes I can't fathom that other people dont understand knowledge that comes as a breeze for me. I struggle with guilt of being perceived as an arrogant know-it-all

[@thenamen935]

@@Glaedr11 That's nice to hear. Congratulations on your engagement. Yeah, I totally felt that last paragraph. I've had a situation like that yesterday. Someone I know asked me if I knew why wasps are more agressive in the late summer. And I answered the question correctly (because they switch their food source and also they can get 'drunk' because they switched to fruits which might already have fermented). When she and everyone around me asked me why I knew that, because they hoped I didn't know that, I just said "Because I know it" ... Probably these weren't the right words to say ...

[@Glaedr11]

@@thenamen935 lol yeah you really can't win. I spent my first year of college actively trying not to give it away that I was pretty smart. I've since transferred out of that school, but on Instragram the other day a guy I knew from that college but havent spoken to in over a year put up a TBH story. I gave it a shot and asked for a TBH and he wrote "You seemed way smarter than me." ... that really wasnt what I wanted to hear I was remembered for lol.

[@thenamen935]

@@Glaedr11 It's nice to write with someone who shares the same experiences. Probably my classmates will remember me as "the smart guy" as well. So I guess I'll try not to be 'the smartest' when I'll have to go to military duty. I guess this will be pretty exhausting for me, because if someone tells something stupid I laugh and correct it -> I'll need to stop doing that. (By "stupid" I mean things that really are stupid and not only so in my opinion) But afterwards I'll try to seem like "the smart one" again because I'm gonna be a teacher and I guess it wouldn't harm if pupils thought of me like that.

[@jamesthomas6984]

What's great about the first one is you could have an empty triangle or a double dot triangle to fulfill one of 2 rulesets. Ruleset 1(2 dots), the given: each shape must have 1, 2, 3 dots Ruleset 2(Empty Triangle), planar descension/ ascension: if you take a straight unending line and pull it across the board, touch the congruent shapes with dots in ascending/descending order Glhf

[@Kasperx138]

I always assume every question on the test is a "trick" question and so when I get my answer I assume it's the wrong answer and go back to looking for the right one. A trick question test is a better measurement of honesty and gullibility than anything else.

[@Intrafacial86]

I’m one of those people who have engineer-level intelligence but my conscientiousness sucks balls. My parents keep telling me about all these things I could do with my life in an effort to encourage/inspire me, but sometimes it just feels like they’re passively expressing their disappointment.

[@richardreed1313]

What do you do then?

[@Intrafacial86]

Richard Reed Honestly? No idea. Not even sure if I should do anything. I have a job and a car, I live with my parents but pay my share of the bills as rent, and I don't have any relationship money sinks. And to be fair, sometimes the engineer mind comes in handy at my simple job. Occasionally I'll run into things that seem to be causing more trouble than they're worth, ask the boss why that thing needs to be done, and maybe figure out a way to do it better. Working nights is also kinda nice. I don't have to deal with the higher-ups and inter-department drama.

[@antosharboonian6110]

@@Intrafacial86 parents have alot of expectations for their own children. as you know, they made you. if you do certain things a different way than your parents have adviced, they'll feel dissapointed because you didnt trust them on their word(figure of speech). Whats funny is that a parents still feel the empathic moment of you being born everytime they look at you. you cant deny it. its instinct. you shouldn't reflect their eagernessto help you as a sign of dissapointment. its the opposite. negative emotions stem from an innate positive emotion coming from the source (you) to the receiver(your parents). basically, you being positive about decisions you've made, makes them sad since as a parent they've decided all their lives how you should live yours. but, you're a grown man, so they cant do that anymore, but the instinct still resided.

[@richardreed1313]

OK, may I ask how old you are and what brought you to watch this video. My parents to their credit never pushed expectation on me but still engrained me with the value of money and work ethic. They encouraged me to try anything and didn't show disappointed when I switched from hobby to hobby. Ironically now in my 30s they now doubt my life choices and don't understand why I keep doing new things. I love the fact I have been able to drop a 10 year career and pursue other things, it's a real privilege. When it comes to parents I think it's key to separate yourself from them to a certain point. I don't understand exactly why but something about the process helps you grow as a person. I notice this so much when I spend prolonged periods with them now. It's like I was always running with them but now I'm ahead looking back. It's a whole new perspective. It's not better or worse but I think it's important.

[@julliuscesar6463]

Feel you

[@empanada65]

I just found out about this guy and it’s so refreshing to a sane guy in this modern society who knows the idiocy of both political parties that I think I might die of happiness

[@KevinBurns86]

And the guy who made your realize this is actually Canadian, not American.

[@14monkelifter88]

@@KevinBurns86 ofc xD

[@aron7578]

​@@KevinBurns86 Isn't a Canadian an American?

[@shuki1]

@@aron7578 sure, but American is widely used to mean people from the USA, and Canadians HATE being called Americans.

[@superexplosiva2001]

Haaaa, you find sanity in having just two parties??? Insane.

[@freiheut]

We should have more teacher like Jordan Peterson

[@tabbethadobbins1]

It’s best to take all 9 together and look for which has 2/3 of the elements. (He taught to look at rows and columns- which is harder)

[@jd5393]

Conscientious. Application/observaton of intelligence is perspective as well as dependent. Knowledge is power

[@j.r.r.tolkee7000]

"But we'll get to that in a minute... Ok, so... (gets immediately to it). I love this man.

[@nikolaynikolov1825]

I think number 7 on the third item can fit in and make sense too. This way there would be three triangle colors, two horizontal strip colors, and two vertical strip colors per line.

[@Gaganpulsi]

I second you.

[@lennybrucey9344]

There is another pattern as well. The first triangle matches the horizontal strip. The second triangle matches the vertical.

[@nikolaynikolov1825]

@Lenny Brucey I couldn't see your pattern but there are probably other ways to solve it even more rationally which is to show how these tests might not be measuring intelligence or just pattern recognition wholly if you follow the "official" answers.

[@lennybrucey9344]

@@nikolaynikolov1825 there is only one answer to that puzzle. what that puzzle measures is debatable.

[@patmcallister1249]

That’s true if you look at the rows, However I believe this one requires you to look at the entire grid. 7 would be incorrect because there would be four vertical yellow bars, two blues, and three blacks. Same with the horizontals, you’d have four blues and two yellows. It should be three of each which makes 3 the correct answer.

[@AtticusColdfield]

Maybe you can program - you right at the next end. That one phrase changed my life lol. I was always scared that I "can't". And then tried. hell man, now when I know where the future is going - it is quite fascinating.

[@virtuousvillain9874]

Great stuff, need to talk about this more in mainstream interviews!

[@galaxielion5306]

Your wish has been granted.

[@enochbrown8178]

I've never encountered a better explanation of IQ and IQ tests. It's remarkable that Jordan Peterson hits the nail on the head.

[@dingdong2103]

It would be remarkable if he didn't. He tends to get things right...

[@Wulfiebaby]

Haha, I overcomplicated this, because I immediately looked to the second side for a pattern of progression in shape and dots to see how that could apply to the first side and predict the missing shape.

[@yddub111]

well, this is great news for us older people. I do not learn as fast as I used to but I still have what I know and I can still learn if I stay at it...I just have to be a little more patient with myself . and practice things that use my mind. this is part of the reason I always defend playing video games loll I believe they are good for us at all ages. (not that JUST playing video games is good by themselves, of course) and everyone should have a time every day where they just sit in quite and think about stuff. mine is the first hour or so when I wake up and have coffee at , usually , 4 or 4:30. IF anyone cares what I think, of course, lol

[@crucifyrobinhood]

10:35 I was on a Navy ship in the 80's with 400 crew and in my division alone there were 2 guys who absolutely had downs syndrome. Their lives were miserable and both ended up with OTH discharges for insubordination. They were incapable of going down to gear issue and checking out tools, going to a workstation, setting up the gear and working the task to completion. There is no easier day in the military than what I just described. Add a chain of command and peer pressure to that and it's amazing they didn't just jump overboard. I haven't thought about those guys in 30 years but their story encapsulates my feelings for the military.

[@colevickery9758]

Just have those people watch Rick and Morty and that will raise their IQ by at least 30 points per episode

[@dorupero]

Cole Vickery Yes.

[@galindoof]

Dorupero It raises insight not IQ

[@MrKosobi]

On a serious note: I know that there are no reliable studies which would indicate that increasing your IQ is possible, but has anoyne ever tried testing how does intensive language courses affect it? I know that learning languages increases the blood flow in hippocampus and helps establishing a shitton of new neural connections, and apparently IQ is correlated with some kind of activity in areas of the brain responsible for maintaining language skills, but I don't know how does it affect IQ, and my guts tell me there is something there.

[@freesaxon6835]

Hooch Smeeth I rather think it was a joke ( he considered r&m to be low stuff..... an insult)

[@freesaxon6835]

Hooch Smeeth I might just be a self opinionated bigot, but I can't see it any other way than a sarcastic remark ! Lol

[@foundationofthought7155]

Decent analysis from jp. I think it tests can be learned and they are dependent on many factors. Also they only show a certain kind of intelligence. But still it is an interesting analysis

[@djtanikgotbeatz]

ahhhh the universal debate about what matters more happiness or how smart you are

[@AverageChild55]

Lol I might be dumb then, but at 3:57 why is it number 3? I'd choose 7, because in every row the vertical and horizontal pillar is always 2 colour. Vertically in first row: Yellow - Blue - Yellow Horizontally in first row: Black - Yellow - Black Vertically in second row: Yellow - Black - ? ( if it's number 7 then it completes as Yellow - Black - Yellow) Horizontally in second row: Black - Blue - ? ( if it's number 7 then it completes as Black - Blue - Blue) Vertically in third row: Blue - Black - Black Horizontally in third row: Yelluw - Blue - Blue You'll see the same thing if you see them in columns, there's never three different colour in horizontally or vertically. And the fact that the reverse triangle is black is true, because there is no black triangle in that second row... But I'm genuinely confused why it's number three lol. I might overthink it or miss smth, idk. EDIT: Nvm, I got it... There has to be 3 triangle 3 horizontal 3 vertical lines of a particular colour, no need to bother with the placing of the triangles or pillars/lines... I think it's kind of a bad IQ test(or rather, makes you follow a bad logic), because there's no pattern to follow, just the sheer number of lines and triangles has to complete.

[@mikeb3081]

no way i found this comment, you thought about it the same way i did, i think the question is flawed

[@omarshareef489]

I think in the third question : the right answer is 3 because every color and every shape repeat itself 3 times . Take a deep look my friend

[@xThvnd3rstorm]

I would argue that the question is well designed - the logic you pointed out is not conclusive. Completing the matrix with 7 does not solve for all logical implications of the 3x3 system. If you look at the 3 rows separately the same rules would apply. However the added logics in the vertical/diagonal (sum etc) are not satisfied. The only way to account for the 3x3 logic is number 3. in other words „the whole“ trumps the separate „smaller logics“

[@HatemSinokrot]

I am pretty sure it’s 7

[@victor7574]

Look at the whole picture without breaking it down by rows and columns. There are three elements (triangle, vertical bar, horizontal bar) each in three different colors. (black, blue and yellow). Choice 3 gives you 3 of each element in each of the 3 colors. Choice 7 gives you 4 yellow vertical bars and 2 horizontal yellow bars. Choice 3 gives you 3 horizontal yellow bars and 3 yellow vertical bars. (The poor contrast between black and blue makes this problem more difficult than it should be.)

[@SevereFamine]

It’s incredible that he’s able to weave in such important applicable knowledge in with his curriculum. What a masterclass

[@_Dylanm]

The last few minutes of this clip were incredibly insightful.

[@jacobsmith831]

@@_Dylanm agreed. the last couple minutes should be it’s own clip.

[@destroyer08114]

@@_Dylanm I wish he was my teacher for every subject, he is what a teacher should be.

[@sokaia]

I rly hope you aren't doing anything important!

[@peterb9407]

For context, I’m 22 years of age and have had a multitude of jobs, ranging from working in schools to labouring, I eventually had to stop doing the labouring as I was physically fine but it was mentally draining, almost robotic really and I had other things going on at the time. I also have bipolar disorder and in the UK you can be sectioned for a plethora of reasons, under the mental health act (I was manic at the time). During my sectioning I was assessed and for whatever reason, had to partake in an IQ test, I had never taken one before and scored 137, apparently that was pretty good, although I couldn’t care less at the time. Long story short, I lost my mum just before this, I was in a hole of despair and deep sadness and you helped me get out of it, I’m currently in university studying Law and I just wanted to share part of my story with you and whoever reads this, many thanks Dr Peterson.

[@appleman_123]

good for you hope you doing great!

[@peterb9407]

@@appleman_123 ah you know, just rolling with the punches, thanks for the kind words, I hope you’re well yourself my friend, much love.

[@appleman_123]

@@peterb9407

[@HiroNguy]

I'd love to hear the unabridged version. Maybe on Rumble!

[@balzor]

I really wish I could take one of his classes

[@The-Rest-of-Us]

As a creative kid I always found the difficulty with more “complex” problems like 3 is that I could justify too many solutions. In this case: They want 3 bc the triangle color is one each and the first double color indicates the horizontal stipe while the second double color indicates the vertical stripe. You can also see it like this: triangle is one each, so black. Vertical and horizontal stripes are always 2 for one: e.g. first row 2 yellow and a blue for vertical or 2 black and a yellow for horizontal (it’s analogue for row 3). So If you pick solution 7 it follows the same pattern: 2 yellow and one black for vertical, 2 blue and one black for horizontal. I didn’t know if they wanted 3 or 7. Always found these types of questions bs.

[@JoeCuddlefish]

Look at the combination though. The eighth triangle is black with a blue horizontal stripe, meaning you don't want that combination again. However there is no black triangle with a yellow horizontal stripe, meaning 3 is the objective solution.

[@nozzcat6149]

I was also trying to do the problem like you, but you're looking too close at details that aren't relevant. Look at the background triangles as different sets. The black 'set' is missing a vertical blue and a horizontal yellow. You're looking at it in terms of the rows, but you have to look at the whole system as well.

[@marknasri8076]

The way I approached it is simple, I just looked for the missing color on each shape and combined them to look for the solution.

[@The-Rest-of-Us]

@@marknasri8076 Then you just got lucky for this one because that approach wouldn’t have worked for the other rows. It’s not the pattern.

[@darkira2129]

My brain simplify it as like there's already 3 black "-" (I always confused, horizontal and vertical), 3 blue "-", but just 2 yellow "-", and there also 3 black " | ", 3 yellow " |" but just 2 blue " |".

[@AnthoMorvan]

I think the solution is #7 for the third test. We want a black triangle yes. But then we also want to have 3 vertical yellow bars and 3 horizontal blue bars for the overall 9 items. 3 doesn’t respect those rules. 7 does.

[@BarryB.Benson]

Maybe it’s because they’re aware of the camera, but you rarely see students following the prof around the room, let alone having their heads up in general. As a uni student, only interesting lecturers get an attentive classroom. I’ve had soooo many courses where the vast majority of students are not actively paying attention to the prof and not because they don’t care but mainly because the prof is just reading off slides, word for word. The only times I’ve been in classes where the majority of students are actively paying attention and following the prof around is when they show passion in their lectures and at least act like they have something important to share, which I think Peterson does a good job at doing

[@thezyreick4289]

odd, at the colleges I have been to, the students that show up are all well behaved It is just hard to get them to show up.

[@BarryB.Benson]

@@thezyreick4289 I definitely had well behaved students as well, but I’ve noticed if the prof is boring students will tend to look at their phones and play games on their laptops rather than paying attention

[@sketch11]

Took me a while but I finally understand the final question out of the 3 he showed us i feel so relieved.

[@chrisjeaaalbertos3802]

How the fuck does #3 work for the 3rd puzzle. Only see people in the comments say "yuh I got it" but no one explains. I got #7, so either the test is flawed as fuck because there are multiple correct answers and I just miss why #3 works, or he fucked up and #3 isn't the right answer, it's #7.

[@matthewdunham5235]

@@chrisjeaaalbertos3802 there’s 2 patterns that can be picked up on, either the pattern where the colors of the vertical lines go above the horizontal lines (3), or the pattern where there’s 2 colors present in each of the completed lines, and a tricolor pattern is required for each line, so if you choose the blue line needed to go over the black triangle to complete the 2 color rule being completed and the tricolor triangle being present rule have been completed, you get the answer (7) If IQ tests are supposed to read that a person can follow patterns, technically you’re still showing multi variable skill by choosing the “wrong” answer that still has a pattern. (Btw, I initially got 7 too)

[@retnuHDJ]

@@chrisjeaaalbertos3802 Puzzle 3 is obviously flawed. The people saying they got it correct either used flawed logic or are lying.

[@mwrightinsurance]

My first answer was three, and then I started to recognize other patterns but didn’t pause the video. Was glad to see others found this as well but then I thought, while we are all debating this, the guy who just answered three and moved on has the job!

[@datahigh]

Yeah I knew it was 7 too, was imagining if I was in that class if I would've corrected him, but probably not. For one, I don't know if I would've gotten it in that setting as confidently and two you're dead on... it's not a relevant to the point lol... Also, I've seen highly successful people leave typos in different documentations on purpose and it kind of always made since to me. Like it will be their bio or something and sentence two say, "I've making a lot of progress..." for example. Very rare, but especially in STEM fields I've seen it enough times that it has stuck out. I think they're just sending the message that it's not important to them and they want to communicate that. Which is respectable, because then you continue to read on and they have 40 patents, 30 years exp, lead this that and the other, etc. Especially in a professional setting, if a person gets hung up that a tiny error, it really says more about them than vice-versa. As well as, for social media posts it's good to have typos sometimes, because it sort of creates friction to people scrolling through and can catch more attention. Then you get commentors pointing it out, or more likes just because the message sat longer in their minds. Highly applicable tactic, like for dating too, if do something stupid in front of your crush and yeah... people are too easy to manipulate, very sad.

[@chibbiChibb]

IQ tests feels a bit random in terms of difficulty, its pretty much just how quickly you see the pattern, then it becomes easy, but sometimes you can solve harder tests quicker because you got "lucky" in seeing the pattern early, yet struggle on easier ones because you overlooked the obvious. the two I've done gave me 110 and the other 142, maybe I was dumber one day or got lucky the other, the difference is still huge. still feel like I belong in the 90s

[@michael43567]

Do a third one then take the average of the three as your IQ.

[@WigganNuG]

@@michael43567 well as JBP pointed out, you need to do more than 3 to get statistically significant representation.

[@thetjt]

@@WigganNuG Probably yes. Which tells something about accuracy of IQ tests. My suggestion: best 2 out of 3!

[@Kingtrollface259]

i got tested at 120 when i was 18 ,i was learning scottish bagpipes from age 11 to 25 so im gonna pick that as my super power i can read ,write play and teach score music and have a couple of tunes i wrote myself ,going to be a professiona musician after 20 odd years of manual work running a painting and cleaning business ,this expierience was essential in knowing business ,i will succeed

[@daedalusdreamjournal5925]

For those who mention the problem with training in IQ testing, I need to remind you that between two IQ tests, there needs to be at least 2-3 years between each tests. If a person can acquire valid IQ tests questions to train themselves, the problem lies in protecting those questiosn and not the IQ test itself. The rorscha test (before it went out of commission) suffered the same kind of problems, as in: Too short times between testing and people having access to both the ink-blots and how to fool them to have a "good" result.

[@momentary_]

Those three questions were just pattern recognition and you can train yourself to be better at pattern recognition. That's not cheating. That's just becoming more "intelligent".

[@masterchief5603]

If you know how to apply maths I bet you can beat any IQ Problem coming on your head.

[@BeEnNLGaming]

You also have cases of me where I score 110 at age 6 & 127 at 12. My verbal IQ stayed 110 but my performal went from 112 to 131. Not 100% sure why but do have some 2 theories. 1 being that since im a really mathatically type of person I think as you get older IQ test tend to be more math based favored ( atleast on performal side ). Second one is just focus, I had problems with it since I was a child and every year I grew better in it. But who knows I guess.

[@keineahnung652]

Yes, what if I train pattern recognition and persistence? My intelligence according to the test would get higher and higher...

[@Theuglymug]

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[@Gottsnus]

I went to a Mensa gathering at one point. I was hoping (and I suppose expecting) to have interesting conversations with people, who could potentially introduce me to new, radical ideas that I've never considered. I wanted to walk away from there being stuck in deep thought for weeks. What I got instead was a bunch of arrogant individuals who were more interested establishing who was the most intelligent. Let me clarify, I'm by no means a successful individual, I don't believe that IQ is an indicator of who will or will not be successful. Drive, dedication, motivation, planning, structure, vision are in my modest opinion, far more important.

[@ringo666]

You are correct. IQ is simply a measure of how readily you can learn and comprehend.

[@raifthemad]

@@ringo666 Also, how much complexity you can grasp. Biggest predictors of success are IQ, combined with conscientiousness and high tolerance for stress. You can still succeed in simpler things with just the latter two, but not in really complex fields. IQ alone does not predict success, but it is a very big part of the recipe, but plenty of highly intelligent people don't achieve much due to lack of the latter two traits.

[@Shedding]

Mensa are bunch of idiots. The word mensa means idiot women in Spanish (look it up).

[@Grivian]

You must have had bad luck. My experience with Mensa meetings has been in line with your initial expectation. There are exceptions of course but most people are not arrogant. I have rather that take on many people with average intelligence. Many are often arrogant, believe that they know everything and are convinced of many things that are factually incorrect.

[@benjaminbergo2701]

@@raifthemad biggest predictor of success is money, not IQ.

[@mr.grimms4645]

I felt like the second example was way easier to figure out than the first. I didn't even know what the hell I was looking at in the first one but the second one I got almost instantly.

[@cameronmichelson7457]

I learned more in the first 4 minutes on the connection of these images than I have ever from a single class I've ever had

[@baconsalad9743]

On question 2, they didn't flip, but we can infer from the top rows colours that blue should be underneath yellow, I can see where Jordan got confused there, as he was thinking in terms of which side goes under which rather than Colour, which would mean the middle and top row would be conflicting

[@thedolphin5428]

I often imagine being in JP's lectures. How can ANYONE absorb such a flood of such brilliant info while he talks? AND ... he says "don't take notes whilst listening" !!!! I guess his students pass his assignments because later on they read and write his recommendations. I've never been to uni, and hated school, but I'd love to learn from people like JP. Thanks to youtube and its uploaders.

[@slowster2945]

If you stop to write a note, you'll miss something.

[@wave6826]

What you consider brilliant, a lot of us consider common knowledge. In fact I think more people listen to what he has to say as affirmation, rather then breakthrough thought.

[@thedolphin5428]

@@wave6826 Dear Mr Wa vE. Thank you for your pathetic condescension. Although you may think otherwise, when I complimented Petersons lecture as "brilliant", I did not necessarily infer that everything was information/knowledge that I did not know myself. Unlike you, I am able to recognize and acknowledge brilliance without reflection of my own ego to condescend over others who may or may not know such stuff. Yes, there are viewers for whom Peterson confirms/validates suspected or subconscious knowledge. There are also viewers who Peterson is "waking up" for the first time. And yes, there are others who already fully know well some of what he has said. But those of us in the first and third categories do not need to blow our own trumpet like you do. Now fuck off and grow up you arrogant prick.

[@nuqqets9570]

A common thing in universities (I don't know about his one specifically) is that lecture slides are released and lectures are recorded. So the slides help students to recall what the lecture was about (seeing the visual can help recalling what he was talking about by association) and are generally good for notes depending on the type of lecturer/topic (not so much in this videos case but for say maths yes). And the main thing is that the lectures are recorded in many unis mine included so you can review it and take down notes on the second viewing

[@thedolphin5428]

CabooseGI Thanks for the info. Things are very dufferentvthese days! I imagined that uni was like high school (my years were 1969-1974), where you took scribbled notes, then did assignments based on what was said plus the reccomended reading list. JP's lectures, for me, just go so fast and are jam-packed with insights I'd not want to forget!

[@LygarZeroX]

what hole does the triangle piece go into? That's right. It goes in the square hole.

[@hipstercoffee1856]

I have an IQ of 1,336,983. Of course, I watch Rick and Morty. You have to have an intelligence higher than the Empire State Building to understand the subtle complexities of said show, take Rick's nihilism for example. Nihilism was spearheaded by Nietzsche, who went insane due to syphilis in his later years. Due to Rick's proclivity for sexual intercourse, it's likely he contracted the same disease throughout his... adventures. Therefore, Rick Sanchez is mimicking the life of Friedrich Nietzsche and will meet the same fate, as proved by his increasing disconnection from reality coined by his catchphrase, "wubba lubba dub dub!" That's the thing about having such a high IQ, sometimes you shatter reality. The only downside is having to associate with... lesser humans.

[@HomestarCrawler]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewers head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

[@hipstercoffee1856]

I believe we have something in common, my compatriot. I can sense a deep spiritual bond within your words through our mutual love of Rick and Morty. What manner of tattoo would you suggest for someone of my... intellect? For I deeply believe that one must procure a tattoo with a similar depth to its owner's nature.

[@purpleman173]

I literalise your IQ is directly connected to my baby gravy spayer..

[@hipstercoffee1856]

You mean your third leg? With a correlation to something that large, your appendage must be yuuuuuge!

[@joannewilson1021]

and the answer to life is 42 ahahahahah

[@Phenolisothiocyanate]

RIP Forrest Gump

[@wearealljustclowns]

"because you told me to drill srgnt""God dam it Gump! your a God dam genius! you must have an iq of 150"!

[@coreycox2345]

Good point Nunya Biznazz. What are the people in this category doing then?

[@holden_tld]

i've worked with people with mild mental retardation (iq ranges from ~50-80) and a number of them worked on farms doing various menial labor such as cleaning waste, removing dead animals, baiting traps for rodents, etc.

[@coreycox2345]

I think it is more economically driven, ParallaxView111. Illegal immigrants are compelled to work for lower wages because of their immigration status. This money goes to corporate profit, and the political and legal system are influenced accordingly.

[@L2Xenta]

Forest will run fast to reach his goals, literally .