Jordan Peterson: I'm no right-winger

The Canadian clinical psychologist talks to Fairfax Media about what he thinks of his opponents, Rosa Parks and the interview that shot him to fame. @JordanBPeterson
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[@shalomoneal]

He doesn't need to be a right winger. Political affiliations are meaningless. He just has common sense.

[@neuro7097]

common sense is right wing

[@zyrrhos]

I identify mostly as a humanist, but politically progressive, and most people on the left of the political spectrum find the extreme left SJWs ridiculous and annoying and authoritarian. Like you said, it's just common sense.

[@MisterWhat]

If both wings have radicals and either do more harm than good, that`s obviously not it. Common sense is not coming up with entitled pressumptions into a discussion. You listen, you discuss and bring realizations that serve the best interest of the majority of the community or/and Humanity at large, nevermind the planet`s wellfare.

[@jackharper4685]

t.cowardcentrist

[@CoryBleichner]

He seems to just exist in a world where we are all conservative and liberal simultaneously to the extent which makes sense under our personal culture, environment, and life circumstances. Political party doesn't seem relevant. The super fans and super haters just want him to pick a team, but he's not playing for one.

[@boggeshzahim3713]

Like do the people protesting him even know what he is saying.

[@andresgv10]

No they don't. They've just been fed whatever information they have about him from their usual echo chamber that they live on.

[@CoryBleichner]

My fellow atheists don't protest him but they argue his exact points on a regular basis. I agree and disagree here and there. I don't really mind borderline secular cultural Christians like Peterson. It's not like he can stop the inevitable movement away from religion.

[@rhaven50]

Boggesh Zahim of course theg dont. It just isnt what they believe.

[@jeanwhite1659]

Boggesh Zahim Exactly

[@Howhaveyouben]

yeah... that's why they're there...

[@camerado2be]

“She was having a battle with a figment of her imagination.” Ha! Great summary...

[@wattlebough]

camerado2be Don Quixote much.

[@SomeGuyNotKnown]

That was a great line.

[@sahilarrow]

Yes, truly a great way to summarise the Cathy situation

[@SahilArora]

@Michael Burtt Well, I respectfully disagree. Because the so-called concept of "expertise" does NOT apply to politics. And about him being forgotten in 12 months, I challenge you that his popularity is only going to EXPLODE

[@peterdragon6367]

camerado2be I love how he talks shit so politely

[@zachjohnson637]

Thinking of the political spectrum simply in terms of 'right' or 'left' is useless and archaic anyway.

[@Theogvineofthedead]

Zach Johnson yeah humans need to group and label things in order to understand them. It's really obvious when looking for musicians to jam with and everyone wants to be in a "djent" or "blues" band.... way to limit yourself from the get go. :p but for real, it is useful to label things but the problem is that once you do, you limit that things ability to change and grow. And people notoriously cling to labeled things and wear the label on their sleeve to feel included or satisfied, and then they get stuck, unable to grow and change, with a diluted and shallow understanding of the ideology they prescribed to in the first place. It's all really confusing and I dont think I worded that in a way to make it easier ;p

[@ZGGuesswho]

not in entirety but i think it serves more harm than good more often than not. "the right are fascists" "liberalism is a mental disorder" etc...that stuff is pretty wild. the most dangerous thing these days is cynicism imo.

[@bassman_0074]

Zach Johnson agreed somewhat. Seems like the old idea of labor vs management is shifting to authority vs liberty. I believe that’s evidenced by the recent fracturing of the political parties here. More so on the right than the left because libertarians tend to vote right these days, which is causing some issues for the neocons. The democrats are seeing the same shift it seems, yet perhaps to a lesser degree. Given the polarization since 2008, I’d say the parties are also more diametrically opposed to each other than before, but we’re still in flux between the old dichotomy of the late 90’s and the one taking root today.

[@IanLEAU]

Right and left wing politics is only a couple hundred years old lol What are you talking about?

[@Oners82]

Zach Johnson It is not archaic because it is a relatively new way of analysing political beliefs and it is not useless because it instantly gives you a gist of what a person's politics are. Everything about Peterson screams right wing whether he admits it or not, and whether you like the term or not.

[@frenchgentlemen1047]

“Politically, I am a classic British liberal. Temperamentally, I am high in openness, which tilts me to the left, although I am also conscientious, which tilts me to the right. Philosophically I am an individualist, not a collectivist, of the right or the left. Metaphisically, I am an American pragmatist, who has been strongly influenced by the psychoanalytic and clinical thinking of Freud, Jung and the psychotherapists who have followed in their wake.”

[@GabyGeorge1996]

Jacques Guichard clinical thinking? Yes. Psychoanalysis? No.

[@jean-louispech4921]

He is not very open minded about atheism, he say many stupidities from very religious peoples about them. It is laike he have skipped the 20th century and was stayed in the 19th century or older. His any conservatives views about religion put him on the right side, not on the openness side.

[@jamsstaylor2348]

jean-louis pech athiest believe millions of years ago in a galaxy far far away a magical explosion happened from a unknown source of magical power that started a crazy explosion maybe 200-500... unknown light years ago.... watch at 8pm

[@CGSocDem]

He said he’d vote for Trump

[@edmarespaniola4241]

@@CGSocDem why?

[@ingrid_inthesky]

He doesn't come off right wing at all and never really has.

[@Tonyisnotonfire]

He just panders to the right instead

[@ibkristykat]

well i guess people think that because of his stance on 2 genders and not kowtowing to the trans-community about all the different pronouns that are popping up now. like, what, 24 now? or something? it's a bit silly now.

[@brzy1188]

Because he holds strong views on conservative flavoured principles such as a strong advocacy for the free market as well as free speech, it's not that these can't be left wing but they are very much more centrally embedded in right wing philosophy and when you combine that with his disdain for the alt-left people who have no ability to carry out nuanced thinking can't help but place him in their little right wing box to make sense of it which is also why all these idiotic protesters bang their drums and call him a white supremacist but provide no real evidence for the claim or logical and coherent counter arguments to any of his actual positions.

[@scotta6823]

Ingrid actually he comes off very right wing. The problem is that most people get their opinion of he right wing from CNN which is a complete pile of lies... this is the definition of right wing thought

[@begshallots]

hmm...if he would have voted for Trump than he's worse than "right wing"

[@Msfracture]

Jordan describes himself a classic British liberal and a believer in the freedom of the individual.

[@ibkristykat]

he is a Libertarian. i've heard him label himself that. (which is weird cuz he also hates labels & identity politics)

[@djangofett4879]

He's a conservative. Why does his fan base dance around this? Why are they so ashamed of being conservatives?

[@DIEGOSHAY]

he also describes himself as a Christian, but doesn't believe Christ rose from the dead. He's a moron.

[@DIEGOSHAY]

Labels are words. It's how humans communicate.

[@rationalvids9836]

His wikipedia page says he's a classical liberal, not a conservative.

[@xs10tl1]

A Classical Liberal. Millenials take note: this is what both liberals and conservatives who hate totalitarianism and its philosophical tap root sound like.

[@djangofett4879]

Classical Liberal? You mean like Sargon and Dave Rubin? Who are actually conservative/right wing. This Classical Liberal thing has become quite a silly meme for kids that are apparently ashamed to admit that they're conservatives because its just that uncool. Drop it if you want to be taken seriously outside of this JBP circle jerk festival.

[@xs10tl1]

Poop God they believe in the rights of the individual over the group.

[@elmcityslim]

Akhilesh P the original term "classical liberal" referred to those people that became socially liberal and economically capitalist when both of those ideas were radical and new. Now there is very little distinction between a libertarian right winger and a classical liberal. But all these people are getting sand in their assholes because they don't understand that the meaning of terms can change over time. A lot of people like Sam Harris are calling themselves classical liberals to distinguish themselves from the radical left - in much the same way "libertarians" try to distance themselves from the far right.

[@xs10tl1]

Classical Liberals are Liberals who believe in Economic freedom and therefore private ownership. In this respect they are similar to Libertarians but have deep differences in the role of Government. The Progressives, Neocons and Socialists are all collectivists and believe in a big state and nation building policies. The Globalists are opportunists: they don't care what government form a region has as long as its stable and predictable. They are content with Socialism for You, Capitalism for Us....

[@ugaboj]

+Dan Mason You have a classic case of 'everyone and everything that I think is good falls into my political alignment and everything bad falls into the opposing political alignment'. Classical liberals are not the same as conservatives, Sargon definitely isn't a conservative, he isn't even technically a classical liberal, as he has stated many times he actually falls under social liberalism, but simply uses the term classical liberal because of all the stigma associated with anything that has the word 'social' in it at this point. Yes, there are leftwingers who have common sense, who have common ground with rightwingers, I know it's hard to believe with how much social justice dominates the leftwing stage, but it is true. You don't have to label all of us conservatives in order to be able to agree with us and have common ground with us. The moderate/centre left and the moderate/centre right have a huge amount in common, and have almost nothing in common with the extremes of each side.

[@AarmOZ84]

So, what you are saying is that you're radically right wing?

[@TrickyCarp]

Aaron Hart what? Have you even listened to anything he's said? If you think he's radical right you're nuts or must be a leftist.

[@lapelcelery42]

Cameron Oliver So, you're saying he's radically right wing?

[@ethanlculver]

I'm 99% sure that this is a sarcastic mock of Cathy Newman. :)

[@seak5988]

"so you are saying" meme by Cathy Newman

[@iasonasstathis355]

Cameron Oliver woooosh

[@OutlawLoveSong]

"Hmmm.. it's 8 million people" he retorts while barely missing a beat. Total bad ass!

[@ianwebster3489]

Wrongly, too. It's 9 million.

[@bipolatelly9806]

Ian Webster he finished up with 30 million, he said.

[@bipolatelly9806]

Alpha Male...

[@wayneurquhart1967]

L. Edward Soulgambler A total overestimation. I've watched it at least a million times myself.

[@djangofett4879]

The term badass is being abused here.

[@bemdav]

"I'm not informed enough about the situation there, to say anything particularly intelligent about it" If only more people were like this man...

[@user-py9cz8zh8h]

In a way that was intelligent

[@dimthecat9418]

That was practically my exact comment lol

[@dezzyboots1323]

he shouldn't be likening human social hierarchy to that of lobsters then, should he?

[@bemdav]

@@dezzyboots1323 Pretty sure he's quite informed about the neurology and behaviour of both lobsters and humans

[@matthewjohnson3302]

@@user-py9cz8zh8h in all the ways. That’s just being intelligent plain and simple as opposed trying to look intelligent. There’s only a small group of dorks who look up to the guy that’s a know it all and they usually live online

[@imnatural7758]

Jordan Peterson have given me a lot of new perspectives about life. I have nothing but respect for this intelligent man.

[@marioscevko1349]

I'm Natural likewise

[@Yodadrinkzoda1]

I'm Natural he doesn’t believe in basic science. He’s fools gold

[@ozymandias6817]

@@Yodadrinkzoda1 how so?

[@crankyanker2682]

@@Yodadrinkzoda1 imagine saying a scientist doesn’t believe in science

[@mjolninja9358]

@@crankyanker2682 dude’s just a troll let him be, he’s missing out so much

[@machtnichtsseimann]

A Canadian in Australia being asked about American heroes. Kiiiinda makes sense.

[@BrandonMather8]

we're all human

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Meh. Could've tailored the question more specifically to the interviewee's culture/background. Would've interested me more. Personal taste, I guess.

[@CoryBleichner]

Apparently intelligent people have the ability to speak about many topics and apparently people that aren't as well equipped want conversations tailored to their brain.

[@BrandonMather8]

haven't heard it said like that before. nice.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Apparently pseudo-intelligent people on KZbin don't actually read and comprehend comments before spouting off with their unequipped brains.

[@Grimread]

Why does it matter so much to people whether he's "left" or "right"? I'm sure the man's sick to death of being misrepresented. Why not just listen to what he has to say and learn something. Don't cherry pick some of his statements and compartmentalise it as conforming to your own bias. He's worth listening to (not just hearing - that's passive) because he's incisive and may enliven the world for you by changing your preconceptions.

[@djangofett4879]

Because this is more of the right wing trying to push the overtown window. The overtown window is skewed so far to the right that you have right wingers like Dave Rubin, Sargon and Peterson claiming the "liberal" mantle. They're pushing to goalpost for one reason, to MUDDY UP THE DISCUSSION and keep their stupid followers away from all those EXTREME LEFTIST OPINIONS that they piss their pants about constantly. JBP fans are the bedwetters club. They are hysterical and completely ignore real issues, solely focus on very small, inconsequential sensationalism.

[@Ssalamanderr]

He rarely says anything more than self-help horoscope BS, that's why you can read him as representing any position. If you dig down though he's pretty much just in favour of the status quo and enforcing existing hierarchy. Which is pretty conservative.

[@Ssalamanderr]

Thanks man. I think you're the first person to recognize it! I'm an enormous fan.

[@paunaic5460]

People are obsessed with labels now-days. That's just the reason.

[@Ssalamanderr]

Every self help hack claims to be using scientific evidence. I'm sure Petersen knows some stuff about psychology but he should stop making comments on society. Denying that their are any structural problems at all is frankly moronic. Do you think oppression is some impossible thing that doesn't exist? Personal responsibility is important but that doesn't mean that we can't look at ways to make our society better, or do you think it's perfect already? Look I honestly agree that left wing identity politics can be pretty extreme and annoying to deal with, however those people have very little actual power beyond being mean to you on the internet. Meanwhile we have literal torch-wielding Nazis marching in the streets openly calling for genocide. Like what is the bigger problem here? Cops shooting unarmed teenagers (if they're black) is so common now it's barely news, but I guess that's not a problem compared to trans-people wanting to be called by a different pronoun, wow that's so weird! The left and the right are exactly as bad as each other you guys!

[@latchdoorlatch996]

The way he owned Cathy Newman on channel 4 was a pleasure to watch

[@maverickmindset8732]

Right and left wing has always in my opinion been a gross oversimplification. There are so many complex issues and values out there and trying to assign all of them to one of two sides then having a person try to embody one side in its entirety is absurd.

[@ignatiusjackson235]

It only makes sense in terms of economics. Outside of that, it's entirely absurd. A pro-life socialist is left wing. A pro-LGBT capitalist is right wing. The social issues are just window dressing. Of course, the terms "left" and "right" have become as irrelevant as the word "literally," which has literally been defined (in dictionaries) as the opposite of what it means as well as what it actually means.

[@dimthecat9418]

“I’m not informed enough to make any particular intelligent comment on it” More people should think like this

[@wilecatrexy]

Perhaps because many people see things in regards to either winning or losing and not the truth. JP prefers to stand in the line of truth, which makes him the winner in the end.

[@wilecatrexy]

@ayy lmao ah you'd rather he shut up. No freedom in that.

[@dimthecat9418]

@@wilecatrexy I mean I disagree. He’s wrong about a lot of things which makes him bad

[@kiddo145ish3]

@@dimthecat9418 he's wrong at what? Can you enumerate? and can you elaborate why he's wrong on the enumerations that I expect you to provide.

[@dimthecat9418]

@@kiddo145ish3 alright first of all, I don’t know why you’re typing like that maybe you’re trying to sound like a professor. But he said that companies should be allowed to discriminate against gay people even tho it contradicts the civil rights act. He also said he would vote against gay marriage because the other people voting “yes” were marxist, which is the dumbest reason to not let gay people get married. He also constantly implies this dichotomy between men and women where it’s inappropriate. He said the only reason women wear lipstick is to imply arousal or whatever, which might have basis in its initial conception, but he is completely ignoring how many women today just wear makeup for their own self confidence. Also thinks that white privilege doesn’t exist, which is proven false if you ever cared to look at a statistic. Because black people are more likely to be born in poverty, be shot by police, be rejected by colleges because of their black sounding names, ect. Also his unnecessary panic about bill c 16, which just made transgender people a protected class to not be discriminated against. And where you also couldn’t repeatedly dead name or misgender someone, which is the leading reasons the s~~~~~~ rate is so high for trans people, if it’s proven you were doing it to harass someone. And since that bill was instated very few people were actually affected negatively by it

[@denniswhite166]

Dr. Peterson is not a right winger nor a left winger. It takes both wings to fly and get anywhere and Dr. Peterson soars.

[@Psycorde]

Wow, that's quite poetic, and makes sense, too

[@tronlegacy1993]

lol this is perfect

[@maccart67]

Yes!

[@hydraelectricblue]

Well that was Care Bear -ish of you.

[@denniswhite166]

What's a Care Bear?

[@uwubagelz6709]

He finally admitted to being a right winger. Only took him 3 years

[@RichardJamesStayAtHomeDad]

That makes me like him a lot less

[@DraconaiMac]

I completely love how exactly this man expresses his ideas. When he's just giving opinion, he says so. When he has data, he says so.When he can't make an informed comment, he SAYS so.

[@Venus.Y]

Yeah much respect to him. The world needs more people like him

[@cummywummy2896]

He isn't "exact". Typically his words are mumbo jumbo

[@tarhunta2111]

Even though those ideas and opinions are wrong?

[@reverendbarker650]

He has a very bad case verbal diarrhea and loves the sound of his own voice, this has only become worse in the past four years , in that time hes morphed from being an occasionally reasonable person to a died in the wool right wing loon. He seems to think his opinions on any subject are relevant and informed, not so , he's as cognitively dissonant as the rest of us, but the tragedy is that doesn't seem to realize it.

[@JohnnyLaw1409]

​@tarhunta2111 they're not though.

[@livingjoke3083]

As a European muslim this is exactly the kind of people I want to rule the country I live in. I dont want the toxicity and the political correctness of the Left nor do I want the hate and the ignorance of the Right. This guy is a perfect balance.

[@jesusislordsavior6343]

Living Joke I agree about the double ideological threat, which makes civil and even intelligent discourse difficult at times. Across the Atlantic from you, Peterson has got a somewhat undeserved reputation as a right-winger because he goes after the so-called Left with such zest and abandon. As a result some right-wing types really do latch on to him----------because he and they share a common enemy, I suppose. But I don't quite understand his 'crusading' zeal. It is not as though he were preaching the Gospel of salvation. He is only presenting another version of secular humanism. Indeed when he speaks about the Bible, he does so as a secular humanist, which inevitably results in distortion of the message. Christ is the ultimate agent of reconciliation, for those who believe in Him and follow Him: (Galatians 3:28) 'There is neither Jew nor Greek, mere is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.' Issues of social injustice arising from differences of ethnicity, race, and gender are best resolved within the context of Christian community, rather than through militant 'revolutionary' action.

[@jean-louispech4921]

you prefer the political correctness of the Muslims? he is not about balance about religion.

[@jesusislordsavior6343]

@@jean-louispech4921 To whom were you addressing your remark? I did not quite understand it. Perhaps muslims in Western countries do have an investment in political correctness. But I prefer transparency, not political correctness, and not false religion either. I think we have to distinguish between the value of a human being, which is non- negotiable, and the value of beliefs, which is variable. We should certainly exercise the right to challenge wrong beliefs, but we should not hate those who hold them.

[@jean-louispech4921]

@@jesusislordsavior6343 I speak to the european muslim.

[@jesusislordsavior6343]

@@jean-louispech4921 Understood.

[@gireenlaw8374]

He strings words together like a magician.

[@schrempskynate8944]

A literal wordsmith.

[@damnedifido1062]

I don’t see how you can do a video on PragerU and not be a right winger. That whole channel is conservative propaganda

[@TheKumarImpressions]

Then f off

[@damnedifido1062]

@@TheKumarImpressions Another butt hurt Peterson fanboy who couldn’t even address my argument LOL. Don’t worry I’ll gladly eff off of your precious daddy LOL

[@tofuchicken2]

I like how all the common sense folk of the world are rallying around Jordan Peterson. I wouldn't have it any other way. This guy is seriously intelligent and articulate and morally conscientious.

[@snowfrosty1]

kiri No offense miss but you're honestly really ignorant, asinine and considerably myopic if actually believe "common sense folks of the world are rallying around Jordan Peterson". This college professor is only best known in Anglophonic countries these days, don't over exaggerate his impact and 'reach'.

[@shamusson]

@@snowfrosty1 Which are most of the first world countries.

[@pmester228]

Well, uhmm. This guy keeps soviet propaganda plastered over his home to remind himself that it can never be allowed to happen again. Instead of, you know, actually researching what the USSR was like (to live in there), how people there treated the propaganda, that the Bolsheviks threw a hissy fit after they lost the democratic election and took over with force anyway. Sounds familiar? JP isn't even remotely close to being as intelligent as he'd like to think. Cass Eris is more knowledgeable on cog psych, Cypher (Cynical Historian) on history, while Eco Gecko's specialty seems to be city planning.

[@doddsalfa]

True he’s far right winger

[@DanielKMihalev]

Sure, that's why you constantly join right wing media outlets, like The Daily Wire.

[@TK-km7uz]

As a leftist i think there's absolutely nothing wrong with Jordan Peterson but i don't really believe that he's not right wing. I don't understand why he never calls out the radical right

[@kalashnikov47ful]

Exactly!

[@nimishpadhye3074]

I'll reply to this with one of jordan peterson's insights... he says that now(after Hitler) there is a definition to where the extreme right is... the certain boundary is known i.e the political persecution of minority groups... but there is no defining boundary to where the extreme left starts.... also presently the far right is a very small minority... there are very few actual racists who intend to be racists but the far left is taking over universities and is a loud minority getting their voices heard and developing traction..and given that we don't know where to start drawing the line with the far left, it starts becoming increasingly important to criticize them. Edit: I wanted to elaborate on the extreme left not having a boundary... we know that the boundary is communism... but by the time we realize that we are living under communism, it is probably already too late.... but as soon as the extreme right minority starts to vilify minorities, most of society can define them as being nutjobs and not give their ideology any traction

[@belatorius3442]

"Ha, gotcha"

[@sushidevil4244]

I loved this part of their debate. that's what you get when you get too emotionally aggressive during debates, you get caught of gaurd.

[@bobmoney8689]

So...you're saying you WANT to be the king of all the lobsters?

[@drtomato]

>Claims to not be a right-winger >Has a video on PragerU *???*

[@ozredneck22]

Prager U is the best

[@z1ll4jr53]

Death to neoliberal capitalist shills 👃

[@JCO2002]

The man is a champion. He stands his ground and defends what he believes in.

[@Septiviumexe]

Jordan *expresses right wing conservative views* Also Jordan: I'm not a right winger

[@pjhans4516]

Which view for example?

[@Septiviumexe]

@@pjhans4516 Religious Conservatism

[@pjhans4516]

@@Septiviumexe Examples of right wing conservative views exactly please? And which religious view specifically?

[@Septiviumexe]

@@pjhans4516 He believes in "Enforced Monogomy" which he has said blatantly on the joe rogan podcast, he believes in traditional ways of doing things which is religious conservatism he believes that people shouldnt have to serve gay people because that is their religion, these are conservative views and these are only some of them, I feel like you are going to defend him and deny any wrongdoing regardless

[@pjhans4516]

@@Septiviumexe I disagree with him on forced monogamy views, It’s annoying to try to have a genuine chat with someone and be assumed to be predictable in one’s views.

[@charleyhoward4594]

Jordan Peterson: you keep telling the truth, you're going to suffer

[@fispeheblu2429]

I've learned this lesson well in life.

[@wilecatrexy]

Following along with the lies and you'll suffer worse in the end.

[@schrempskynate8944]

4 years later and Dr. Peterson is about to lose his license to practice psychology.

[@Dave-vz9su]

Peterson - "I'm all for people standing up against things they don't like and think aren't right " Also Peterson - " I don't like people protesting and attacking me for controversial views I've put forward in a way that could only garner such negative attention, in the hopes of also gaining some positive attention " Couldn't be more of a victimhood/need for attention scenario... People, please see thru this man .. don't insult him... Don't cry about him... Just see thru the con...

[@dlg78]

But they aren't protesting him for his point, hence why they don't rebutt. They just insult him. They know he is right, they just don't like it. His views are NOT controversial, that's the point. That's the difference.

[@mahman543]

@@dlg78 you're almost there, keep going and you'll be able to break through

[@maxsmart9116]

Was hoping to see a comment like this.

[@meat981]

So you don't think people should stand up for what they believe in? And would you like people attacking you? Would you like someone to stab you for opposing views? These don't conflict you meat. You can accept the idea that people should stand up for what they believe in. That does NOT mean you LIKE it when they do. I don't think people should protest, but I also accept the premise that people should stand up for what they believe in. It's not a contradiction. It's "do what you want, but I rather you dont". Don't be so black and white, everyone in reality holds this same belief, in everyday life.

[@Dave-vz9su]

@@meat981 amazing how you said all that, but were then unwilling to accept my differing point of view... Almost like you're just a hypocrite I triggered with an inconvenient view...tsk tsk

[@shilpashivadasan5115]

Yess i knew he isn't a right winger. I HATE it when right wingers claim him as theirs just bc he calls out on the stupidities of the radical left

[@ish7957]

Shilpa Shivadasan he's a right winger. Don't trick yourself

[@mysteriousmuffin6017]

Ish He himself says he isn’t. We on the left can claim that Abraham Lincoln was a leftist because he fought to end the slave trade. Even though he was in the Republican Party, there’s a good argument to be made that he was more left-leaning.

[@thecaptainplus]

@@ish7957 he explicitly says he isn't right wing. How fucking stupider can you get?

[@FlauFly]

@@thecaptainplus "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" - he can claim that he is not right wing, but if all his claims align with today's right, is shared and agreed by right-wing people, he is just right-wing as well.

[@lucasroos7135]

@@mysteriousmuffin6017 what? Lincoln's having abolished slavery is not proof that he was a leftist, all Democrats who were leftists at the time voted against abolition while the entire conservative Republican party voted in favor.

[@JJWYT]

Is there a full interview video?

[@S2Cents]

Asking about who...Rosa Parks? You're in Australia in 2018, asking about that.. LOL. Edit: and they're asking a Canadian too.

[@S2Cents]

benzito EXACTLY. Wtf. Pathetic. By the way the real story - surprise, surprise- of Rosa Parks, yea it's a little different than people might think.

[@IanLEAU]

They were referring to the context of protest. Rosa Parks and Harvey Milk provided discourse on their respective issues on a global scale, not just domestic. You don't need to be from a specific place to talk about issues that occurred there, that's the kind of bullshit identity politics that is frowned upon.

[@S2Cents]

IanLEAU I don't care.

[@IanLEAU]

2cents Yeah that's what I thought lol. Too dumb to care.

[@DarkWandererAU]

2cents this would have to be the dumbest fucking comment I have read online in a while. And that makes you special, buddy

[@johnjackson9767]

That's the headline you took from this? Okay...

[@aquili1]

John Jackson better than the normal “feminist destroyed by x” ... at least this headline is true

[@johnjackson9767]

I prefer neither.

[@3chmidt]

not calling yourself right despite you being right is a small victory for the left

[@awediomusic2137]

But he certainly isn't left wing; what left wing policies does he have? He is a self proclaimed traditionalist, he believes strongly in biology, he is a capitalist and individualist. I suppose him saying this more means he isn't driven by an agenda and simply thinks independently, which is fair enough.

[@jwilson544]

He looks so stoned in that intro

[@santiagogarcia-huidobro654]

He's just one of the most brilliant I've ever witnessed. It's truly impressive.

[@matthewjohnson3302]

K he’s dope but no doper then you can be. Y’all ride hiss nuts a little too hard

[@RY-lu3pz]

“But I’m not a rapper”

[@chlakkireddy5565]

always love coming back to old Dr.Peterson videos

[@Cruciatum]

He's only right wing to people off the deep end of the left :confused:

[@JesusMartinez-ry7bw]

Glad i dropped out of that cess pit at UofT

[@siddhant717]

Chick Deney huh?

[@cedrikmartin4853]

siddhant the actor playing jim lahey died... thats why he said that

[@JaysonT975]

too hard for you huh?

[@acesking]

ahahah don't kid yourself

[@christopher1133]

Sure you did. Just like I shot that flying pig last night.

[@hausacat]

Congratulations SMH for uploading this video and not disabling the Like to Dislike count nor the Comments section. Dr Petersen is well worth listening to on his field of expertise.

[@paulrodgers2675]

Well done Sydney Morning Herald, that's the first time I have ever seen a mainstream media outlet show a fair and unbiased piece about Jordan Peterson. Well done, feels a little bit weird to be congratulating the media for doing what the media is supposed to be doing but you are the only ones who have done it, so good on ya!

[@MetaMM]

Moustache so becoming on him. Sorry, am superficial lol

[@YodaMan.]

nothing wrong with that. hes a good looking man.

[@MetaMM]

It was meant as a compliment. Love his look even more.

[@tbg_dies_1st494]

Scranvan lol you tripping

[@ThinkingFreedom]

I believe what you meant to say is... We are starting to see the manifestation of a moustache on Jordan Peterson

[@chbrules]

My g/f today told me he was looking really sexy with the facial hair now. I feel inadequate.

[@takeoffyourblinkers]

Trying for an unbiased look at JBP by fairfax media. An oxymoron if I ever saw one.

[@takeoffyourblinkers]

Why would I bother reading the article, I read the description which they got totally wrong. JBP shot to fame way before the newman interview. This is how clueless these hacks are. Sorry but my faith in the MSM is quite low these days.

[@zo1dberg]

Thought the video was ok though - not the usual SJW crap you'd expect from Fairfax.

[@takeoffyourblinkers]

Trey D Someone just learnt how to copy and paste. Oh, Bless you.

[@dustinblack2006]

It’s almost as if you didn’t watch the video.

[@Nozylatten]

What are you talking about? They were fair this video you clearly didn't watch it and if you did your brain doesn't catalogue that information.

[@Surstromming22]

Why the hell was there subtitles for the Australian host?

[@popdop0074]

5:00 He's a Conservative Capitalist. I took this on a case by case basis and he's definitely on the right, both economically and socially.

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

Because his opponents are sooooo far left everone who disagrees wtih them can only be on their right.

[@mrobinh8]

I’m such a huge fan of Jordan Peterson !!

[@virtueleague2005]

Same!

[@Seastallion]

Me too. He's a voice that deserves to be heard, because he's promoting sanity into an insane world. It isn't Left or Right, it is good old fashioned common sense that has been missing from the public discourse for far too long.

[@Seastallion]

:ToggleSwitch: Your butthole is showing.

[@planartist8519]

Homoerotic Peterson cult. In 10 years from now, you will wonder what you ever saw in your cult leader.

[@Seastallion]

Planartist I wonder if you even know the definition of the word 'cult'? More likely you only know how to use it as an insult to try to belittle the opinions of others. It doesn't take a 'cult' to simply agree with the things a person says, especially if they are speaking from scientifically and historically documented facts. I wonder if you've even really listened to what he has to say? Or are you just parroting the opinions of your Leftist mind programmers?

[@annastesia4547]

True. He is not right-winger, he is right-swinger.

[@sarahbenedict5482]

It would be REALLY nice to see the full interview instead of another chopped up 5 minute sound bite...hint hint. Link anyone????

[@antonionotmyrealnamo6333]

"Alt-Right Darling" Extremely slanted article. JP expresses he did something good, article says that won't work for everybody. JP says the humanities should have their budgets slashed, article says he's hypocritical about free-speech.

[@petermontagnon4440]

The "Humanities" are trying to destroying democracy!!! Pure and simple!!!

[@NostraFnDamus]

Guilt by association

[@antonionotmyrealnamo6333]

Dan Mason So... you think Richard Spencer's view of the world is accurate? You're willing to accept the assertions he makes at face value? Or maybe you just like this one thing he said b/c it validates your viewpoint? I'm just saying... maybe you should be more informed about things you're discussing.

[@sagkoenigin]

There is more money that can be made by catering to right wing audience.. I mean most of the left leaning people don't care about politics as most of them live in urban areas and have a lot of activities to do compared to illiterate conservatives that get lost in right wing echo chambers... 2nd thing is there is a lot of competition on the left leaning side and they love to hear from people who use political satires as most of them are used to seminars, meetings etc in colleges work places where people talk with soft voices while right wing flocks to people who preach like prophets, pastors and Hitler... And get lost in the speech if you are constantly yelling, making angry faces etc.... US is a big market to sell hate and that's the reason many Ann Coulter and Alex Jones wannabes like Lauren southern, Kate Hopkins, PJW, rebel media etc are trying their luck in the US as their own countries like UK, Canada, Australia, New-Zealand, France, Germany, Norway, Sweden,etc are liberal countries...

[@antonionotmyrealnamo6333]

There's more money to be made? Why are there so many leftist comedy shows and tv networks then? Maybe you mean there's a bigger segment of the market that isn't being served for Right-wingers, that's likely true. I used to think like you about 'illiterate' conservatives. But now realize that those 'illiterate' conservatives are more likely to work full-time, serve in the military and raise children in wedlock. It's a tough pill to swallow that living in a community full of 'illiterate' conservatives is safer and cleaner than living in a neighborhood full of liberals. My 'feelings' rebel @ the idea, but it's the unfortunate truth on the ground in most of the USA.

[@neilvarma]

He’s a centrist actually and a hero

[@starscream007]

Is it me or background music is from Need for Speed Undercover?

[@paulmorgan4369]

Why can't Dr Peterson be honest and stop lying?

[@DVRKPHVNTOM]

Maybe he is being honest. He probably doesn't affiliate with the right wing or play by any labels.

[@aniruddhakaslikar2987]

We need more Jordon Peterson's in our society.

[@ryandooley287]

Yes, more shitty college professors who lie about laws protecting minorities and talk about shit they don't understand.

[@FicFactNam]

That's it? 5 minutes and 38 seconds? You got JP to sit down for an interview and that's all you could upload?

[@Monerman]

I am firmly a centrists because all extreme sides of the political compass have caused mass amounts of death, destruction, ethnical intolerance and mayhem. We have to revert to a central point to prevent more chaos from ensuing.

[@Winthertainment]

Why not?

[@MarkSoupial]

"I'm no right-winger, I just happen to hold the all the same social and economic positions and push those positions under the guise of hyper-individualist self-help language, hiding behind meaningless truisms and vague phraseology so as to never be held to an actual position if I'm ever called out on it."

[@Skibbityboo0580]

Nazis do the exact same thing, so that means PETERSON IS NOT A NAZI.

[@Peacefulpreface6323]

A right winger wouldn't believe that people should pay for their privilege with virtue or be held accountable for their ancestors. By the way... just so you know... "right winger" isn't a buzzword available at your every disposal to label someone you simply don't like just so you don't have to actually address anything he says. Explains why you probably find his messages "vague"... but that's none of my business.

[@Peacefulpreface6323]

@Solitaire not as much trouble as you are understanding basic political terms instead of spoon fed Instagram definitions 🤷‍♀️

[@Peacefulpreface6323]

@Solitaire Don't care how old you are, you're still wrong.

[@Skibbityboo0580]

@@Peacefulpreface6323 They are not, actually.

[@BadReligion9]

Yes, you are.

[@BadReligion9]

@@checkout2144 He's a christian conservative - check Regular on Fox News - check Said he would vote for Trump if he was an American citizen - check Described Trump as "liberal" and "moderate" after the '16 election and no more of a demagogue than Reagan - check Flirts regularly with 4chan, the alt-right, have videoes on youtube named "the metaphysics of pepe the frog", photo-ops with alt-righters and pepe the frog, knowing well what pepe symbolizes for the alt-right movement - check Has a striking habit of demonising the left, while downplaying dangers from the right (which has been on display three times this last week and cost at least 13 people their lives) - check Nearly all of his supporters are conservatives/right wing - check He's adored by right wing nuts like Mike Cernovich (convicted rapist), Jack Posobiec (founder of pizzagate conspiracy theory), Gavin McInnes (racist and founder of Proud Boys), Milo (pedophilia promoter and nazi sympathizer) just to name a few - check Not to mention all the BS pseudoscience he spews. He called himself a evolutionary biologist and said snakes fucking in ancient Egyptian and Chinese art was a representation of DNA which wasn't discovered until 1953. And all his talk of academia being corrupt and evil and filled with neo-marxism and cultural-marxism is taken straight out of every far right talking point. He's right wing, alright. You may not like, but it's no way around it. He's right wing.

[@jimyoung9262]

Q: "Why do they want to shut you down?" Dr. Peterson: Hold my beer

[@lloydgarrison3927]

He's a traditionalist Calvinistic conservative. Call that just conservatism, or call it right wing. It doesn't matter. His label is, and yes I know labels suck, that of a Calvinistic conservative. Soooo, it is on the right of the political spectrum, but it doesn't have to be "right wing" which has extreme connotations to it. But he's a conservative. No doubt. He is absolutely not a liberal in anyway. His views stem from the protestant hierarchical approach to society of staunch social conservatism and traditionalism applied to all aspects of life including capitalism. Far cry from Classical liberalism.

[@sgrisancich]

I'm shocked that Fairfax is being so fair to him when he goes completely against their narrative....

[@pkralph3481]

Hope I get this correctly, but JP doesn’t like to be referred to as right winger, he’s a moderate who uses his knowledge on psychology, history, and various other topics to determine what he believes in politically. Which for the most part, I’d say, falls more incline with right wing values but not necessarily. I’d say he’s mostly a libertarian of some sort more than anything. Lmk if That’s a correct way to put it.

[@pkralph3481]

Cullen Froese agreed!

[@djangofett4879]

He's a conservative. His audience is just hung up on definitions, making up their own definitions of things... Its pretty pathetic how they can't just admit that he has conservative ideas and blatantly panders to the right.

[@elrincondelamarillo7613]

@Dan Mason, A conservative who agree with universal single-payer healthcare?

[@Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus]

Right wing is an odd identifier for him as the right wing and left wing spectrum differs across the world. A right winger in Canada or the UK is not the same thing as a right winger in the US. He's pro-free speech, anti-identity politics and that is what classical liberalism is.

[@v8cool231]

"Give up negotiating until you can say no" How bloody true that is. That also goes for 'sorry'. I know a couple of people who can't say sorry, and they have no sense of negotiation. It's all about them. So to avoid saying sorry, or to avoid negotiating they stamp their feet a claim being the victim until they get what they want.

[@bookerwills8649]

Yes, Jordan, yes you are

[@lumpyfishgravy]

"Cathy Newman ... was having a battle with a figment of her imagination." WOW! I experienced this first hand when I was married to a narcissist. People say narcissism isn't malicious, it just doesn't know better. I dunno, there was a lot of stored up malice in my ex., which all exploded at the end. Messy, damaging.

[@evert7389]

The simple minded never cared for meticulous contemplation about complex ideas and intellectual debate. Taking up the metaphorical sword in the name of some belief, like these types of radical leftists, can be quite effective in descending into chaos, however it seems as if the zealots(right wingers included) never realize that you cannot destroy ideas with swords(violence). Strange how the ardour of the radical leftists represents the tyrannical father, characteristic of the far-right, the very thing that they despise. Professor Peterson is greatly appreciated for his relentless pursuit of wisdom and truth as well as educating the masses in the face of all the adversity. For that, I am eternally grateful.

[@tatu5539]

I accidentally had ''Phil Collins - In the Air Tonight'' playing in the background at low volume and it fit perfectly into this. Edit: I think it fits perfectly into any of Jordan's speeches and interviews.

[@ktmtxt]

He's right wing though

[@HeiseSays]

He had fame before that interview.

[@SundayMorninEveryDay]

It seems he learnt the word 'palpable' that morning.

[@monicav6404]

One of the reasons Peterson is considered a right-winger by leftist liberals such as myself is his relentless insistence on personal responsibility to accomplish everything in life, including freedom and rights. We, liberals tend to think that most societal problems stem from a system (capitalist, dog-eat-dog system in this case) that doesn't take into consideration the advantages that some groups have been given (a head start, you might say) over other groups. That's often how we explain the preponderance of poverty in a society. I don't deny that we each have individual responsibilities, like treating with dignity and respect, individuals you encounter on a day-to-day basis, bettering yourself spiritually, educating yourself, taking care of your personal hygiene, taking care of your children, etc. (I'll come back to this later). But leftists believe, and it has been proven many times over throughout history, that if you want to implement a societal change like ending segregation, getting the right to vote, getting your employer to treat you like a human being (i.e. pay you a fair wage, give you a few paid sick days, etc.) you need to unite in a collective. Peterson implied that Rosa Parks committed a courageous individual act, and that is what started the movement. But, sadly it is rarely mentioned in school textbooks that Rosa Parks was part of more than one activist organization and that her individual courageous act was in fact, on behalf of the NAACP. This act was one of many prior smaller acts of disobedience. And yes, she did it on her own. But, she did it on behalf of an organization (a collective, as many liberals like to refer to) she was a part of. It was a planned and deliberate act of civil disobedience, knowing the risk of being arrested. It was not the impulsive act of a working class black woman who decided she was extra tired that day and did not want to give up seat on the bus, as I was told in high school history class. Read up more on Rosa Parks (Wikipedia is not enough, trust me) if you think I'm making this up. And for the record, I agree with many of Peterson's advice on how to better yourself at an individual level. But there are some things that we can't accomplish on our own. I'd like to briefly come back to the idea of personal responsibility. Even what we consider personal responsibility in today's Western, modern society is a luxury we can even afford to talk about and throw in each other's faces because our standard of living generally makes it possible. The fact that some of us can even afford to think about bettering ourselves has been made possible on the backs of others. I'm mainly referring to the millions of people on the other side of the world who sew our clothes for dimes per day with poor working conditions (I'm referring to the multiple garment factory fires in India, Bangladesh, etc that killed thousands of people, mostly women in the past ten years), those who assemble our thousands of gadgets that we just can't live without, and I can go on but you know what I mean. "Those people choose to live that way", you say? Nobody chooses misery...unless you are in a deep psychological depression. But you can thank big global bullies like the U.S. and Britain who are looking out for interests to keep prices low on our side of the world. "How so?", you ask. Well, the U.S has a history of meddling in the politics of Central and South American countries in the last 60 years, keeping down any activist movements in those countries to increase wages, or to unionize, by supplying money and weapons to any counter [right-wing] movements that any sign of life. How do the governments of those countries allow this to happen? Time and time again, history has proven that the U.S. has poured money into campaigns to help elect right-wing candidates who promise to not implement any social change for the masses, but instead enrich themselves with pay-offs from multi-national corporations that establish their manufacturing in those countries at cheaply-priced labour. in essence, the corrupt sector of the U.S. government (C.I.A.) assists in creating a nice climate for their favourite U.S. CEOs, and the CEOs keep that climate going by bribing the oligarchs that hold sovereign power. Classic moves! Conspiracies? No, it's just a way of doing business. Some government documents have been unclassified and actually prove that this has been done multiple times throughout history. If you have the time and inclination, look them up. I suggest looking up U.S. involvement in Honduras (1950s), Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Chile, Argentina, and many more. So, let's not talk about personal responsibility like it's a universal given. A person has to arrive at that standard by first being given the opportunity to access basic living standards, which is hard to do when you work for peanuts 12-14 hours per day, when you have poor infrastructure (poor roads, little to no public transportation, non-existent sewage system), trying to feed and clothe your children. When and how do you better yourself in this situation? These are things that only a united people can battle against.

[@thelobsterperson]

The left needs more inspirational figures to restore it to what it needs to be, good on you Jordan Peterson.

[@jean-louispech4921]

Peterson have many right wing point of view, like about religion/atheism, etc...

[@noobz150]

Jordan Paterson is like Socrates in the 21st century.

[@nonagon4266]

pain

[@danielnatzke6733]

This is a wonderful half-documentary interview video.

[@bobsofia68]

I will label you, you have no right to label yourself. The only one who has the right to label oneself is me.

[@georgesprat9697]

From Wikipedia: "Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal or desirable..." Now watch a couple of clips on what Peterson has to say about hierarchies. I'm not implying that what Peterson says about hierarchies is wrong, but it shouldn't surprise anyone that he is labelled as right-wing.

[@qk-tb2df]

I think the point was that he was a liberal, not a leftist there is a huge difference between being a liberal and being a marxist lol

[@alexmonro1711]

I did watch one of those clips and he said the left plays a role in calling out corruption in heirarchy. Being anti-SJW left is not the same as being anti-left per se.

[@jasondashney]

The first 3 are self evident. The "desirable" part is the only part where any rational person can disagree. I think they're neither desirable nor undesirable since it doesn't matter because they're inevitable. You think SJW "organizations" don't have internal hierarchies? Of course they do. Every group of friends also has a form of hierarchy. It's literally impossible to avoid at scale. If there was no hierarchies, universities would let people in via lottery, and surgeons would be decided via lottery etc.

[@squirrel8161]

Are there not "problems that need to be dealt with" today? Just as there were for the Suffragettes and during Civil Rights? His take seems to be that things are great and no change is needed.

[@johnkilleracoustic]

@Emma Cunningham- We can always get better in every aspect. But there is always a cost, a consequence to every action. So, when you say there has to be a change, how would you like to effect it? Do you follow the authoritarian communist way? That did not work well, millions were killed. JP has always been about taking individual responsibilty, collective activism (though in some cases is essential) the way it is being acted out is not healthy and will not benefit the individual.

[@attentionlabel]

Beautifully summarised.

[@azerkahn]

I'm much more left than right, and I am grateful that there are people out there like Jordan Peterson who takes a stance for common sense and open dialogue. He's obviously not a right-winger, but even if he was so what? He keeps debates on point and deals with facts and constructive arguments, he tries to not speak on subjects where he's not well-informed, he doesn't let people put words in his mouth and will clearly repeat his arguments when the person he's debating misunderstands. He is exactly what politicians should be like, not worried about party politics but rather how to create the best outcome for society. Sadly, almost no politician ever, anywhere, is actually like him.

[@mkkrupp2462]

He’s a right winger, regardless of what he says. Anti equity, believes in hierarchy, anti women working and achieving, anti contraception, pro religion. Was a Climate change denier for many years. Never ever criticises the excesses of capitalism or extreme inequality, never criticised Trump, only ever criticises the ‘leftists’. Simplifies and over generalises and cherry picks his data too.

[@DarthSparhawk]

Seems like a centre-right to me.

[@frankmcnally5993]

He is smart enough to not label himself, be is not centre right, he is a classic British liberal who believes in the freedom of the individual

[@malcolmnicoll1165]

Fundamentally a great video. The drama music however is distracting and tends to cheapen and trivialize the good doctor's message.

[@nodakkian]

"Equal under the law between men and women seems reasonable if we can manage it" aka Equality for women is luxury, sounds like a natural law social conservative to me.

[@Lobos222]

Jordan: "I didnt say what I said because I didnt mean what I mean". There are plenty of videos out there that dissect the type of rhetoric Jordan uses in an effort to stay under the radar.

[@slodkijacus]

Thank you GOD for prof. Jordan Peterson

[@writerconsidered]

I'm a 70s liberal, I consider my self a sane liberal and I find Jordan Peterson to be a sane person as well. Some issues I disagree with him on and many I agree with. If he's a right winger than we need more right wingers like him. He's far superior in intellect than right wing politicians.

[@_Beans_]

The music reminds me of Fallout 2

[@bonbonjames16]

Whens the last time he's called out the radical right and KKK members? He's pretty selective with his outrage. Not a big fan

[@liamhirst5365]

They already have literally the whole establishment calling them out MSM, Celebs, politicians etc

[@edmarespaniola4241]

why would you be a fan, he's not a celeb or something.

[@ryanlashley5076]

"Ideology" I really like how he pronounces that word sometimes "I-dio-logy" like idiot and then "i-deo-logy" like idea. Maybe i've interpreted it wrong but do think its clever

[@NateAnderson69]

Aged like decade old milk

[@thegreekpro]

You do not need to be on either side of Politics to have common sense and be logical.