Jordan Peterson on The Misuse of Unconscious Bias Theory

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Jordan Peterson is talking about how the implicit association test by Anthony Greenwald and Mahzarin Banaji is now being misused for political gain.
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@bluroguevyse08
@bluroguevyse08 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a beautiful quote in the movie Black or White that may explain all of this, specifically the fact that even if someone seems to have instant unconscious bias, their behavior still isn’t consistent with/predicted by that bias: “It’s not your first thought that makes you a racist- it’s your second, your third, and your fourth.”
@bluroguevyse08
@bluroguevyse08 4 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Macklein Actions are initiated by thoughts.
@diannekenehan3868
@diannekenehan3868 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluroguevyse08 Actions are controlled by thoughts
@flipadoo
@flipadoo 7 жыл бұрын
I sent this video link to my local HR manager today, after attending a guest lecturer's talk about UVA’s Project Implicit lab (Harvard’s Implicit Bias test). I'm in STEM and people way smarter than me are buying this crap. It's like watching a bunch of self-flagellation monks walking down the street; people who've made their bones the old school way (working the numbers), get marginalized by some 'I have more victim points than you'. It's killing me. Expecting to be fired in 3... 2... 1...
@hexum7
@hexum7 6 жыл бұрын
French Ever think that the reason that people way smarter than you are buying this is because THEY ARE WAY SMARTER THAN YOU? No, that never occurs to the ideologuige mentality
@hexum7
@hexum7 6 жыл бұрын
Proton1 what the fuck are you smoking. Nothing you wrote was true. Peterson has not been peer reviewed. Or if he has, the results are private. At best, you might find some reviews from students, but those would be more for his teaching skills (obviously) than his work as a psychologist. And, no one at Google has stated that there are 75 genders, nor has anyone else, for that matter. What they have said is that there are myriad different types of gender expressions- but almost all fall under 3-5 broad categories Are you in special ed classes?
@hexum7
@hexum7 6 жыл бұрын
Proton1 seriously, that must be some good meth- Psychologists are not peer reviewed. And the reviews of the people at Wilfred Laurier, if any, is completely irrelevant to Peterson's. Damore's piece was idiotic- it was not scientifically based. It was based on some weird fantasy in his head that google hires its elite tech people from the average population. So effing stupid, it's amazing that guy ever got a job at a prestigious organization. Men and women are different? Holy fuck! What an amazing deduction. Hello, Nobel science prize committee... are you reading this? What next from you? Water is wet?
@hexum7
@hexum7 6 жыл бұрын
Proton1 Of course reviews are not limited to university. Where did I suggest otherwise? There are no formal peer reviews held for a psychology practice. I mean, psychologist peers might say under their breaths that so and so is a quack, but those sorts of assessments are not scientific, and can't be cited or sourced. I don't know what Peterson wrote about in a tweet- but im sure that you misunderstood whatever it was
@hexum7
@hexum7 6 жыл бұрын
Proton1 by the way, Damores claim to fame stated nothing about multiple genders. And you call me an idjit? Seriously?
@rjflores438
@rjflores438 4 жыл бұрын
One of the first things I would ask somebody teaching unconscious biased training is, do you think that you have less unconscious bias than the students in the unconscious bias class?. If they answered no, I would then ask them how she came to that conclusion, and they would not have an answer for that, as it would signify a bias on their part that they believed that she had less unconscious bias without a tangible reason why. This would then cause cognitive dissonance on their part as they would essentially be negating the whole point of teaching unconscious bias in the first place. If they answered yes or that she didn't know, to my question, then I would ask them what the point of teaching people about unconscious bias in the first place, as they are clearly as much in the dark as everybody else, as their immediate assumptions come from a place of unconscious instinct and therefore there isn't the awareness to constantly know when you are being biased, or even how valid the assumption or bias is in objective terms. The fact that somebody teaching the class would signify that they had moral power over those being taught, and that they are somehow more fair and objective is immoral. How would the teacher know all that in the first place about themselves and others, if a large percentage of beliefs and thoughts are unconscious to begin with, it negates the whole assumption that these trainers are in any way moral arbiters, as there is no way of ever knowing that is true based on the very logic they present, which is fundamentally flawed, their own logic can be used to discredit the very basis for having this training in the first place. By their own arguments and logic, the teachers of these courses are unconsciously biased, by assuming that certain people will have unconscious bias, and assuming they can look into other peoples unconscious and knowing their biases whilst lecturing them about something that is beyond immediate conscious perception, why are you training somebody out of a bias, that by definition you have as well, which is unconscious, and negates the whole point of the training as you would just be as unaware of your biases as the next person.
@paddyotoole2058
@paddyotoole2058 4 жыл бұрын
This is well thought out, but too wordy and convoluted. Simply put: people who believe that others of a certain race / demographic need unconscious bias training are in fact themselves biased because they hold that belief.
@captencollin8753
@captencollin8753 3 жыл бұрын
What made you assume the teacher is a she?
@nickmoyer9112
@nickmoyer9112 3 жыл бұрын
CaptenCollin implicit bias 😂
@IvegottobeFrank
@IvegottobeFrank 2 жыл бұрын
Very good points, but did you unintentionally switch your no (no I don't have more unconcious bias than my students) in your first part with your yeas (yes I have ore unconscius bias, or IDK) in your second part??
@rachelg.236
@rachelg.236 5 жыл бұрын
I live in a “Red” state and the community college I work at is requiring unconscious bias training as part of its mandatory compliance training this year. So, I guess I’ll be looking for a new job soon.
@Rwm702
@Rwm702 4 жыл бұрын
Did you look for/get a new job?
@BrotherTree1
@BrotherTree1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you have to face this tragic matter. Hope you're in a better place!
@sae4842
@sae4842 3 жыл бұрын
I get train on things all the time. But normally never have to actually apply it. I believe in critical thinking and that i dont need to believe everything people tell me but i just dont tell my employer that some things they believe dont make sense.
@latergator9622
@latergator9622 4 жыл бұрын
In this video he really dismantles the idea. It’s kinda fascinating.
@amfcapone
@amfcapone 4 жыл бұрын
I finished watching the Channel 4 documentary on the school that tried to get rid of racism and they talked about unconscious bias and then came here. Two hours of that documentary and there is more sense here in 5 minutes.
@JR-rv3xr
@JR-rv3xr 4 жыл бұрын
I saw that too, a while back as well on TV. Honestly I thought it was some form of mild child abuse. It was awful..
@inspiredtosoar3526
@inspiredtosoar3526 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking out!!
@crankyanker2682
@crankyanker2682 4 жыл бұрын
I went through an informational presentation about implicit bias, and I was indeed convinced that I had implicit bias and all the above. It was my first year of university 😬 I saw Jordan talking about implicit bias the day after I answered questions confessing to implicit bias, and I wish I could go back and change my answers.
@armenmichael1250
@armenmichael1250 5 жыл бұрын
I just spent the past few hours reading a bunch of research papers from Greenwald's original 1998 paper until now about this stuff, and here Peterson pretty much hits all of the key flaws in the IAT that I'd found in the first minute of this video. Damn, he's spot on.
@EmbodiedLoveLounge
@EmbodiedLoveLounge 4 жыл бұрын
Armen Michael Can you share some of the papers you found?
@kmgyening
@kmgyening 4 жыл бұрын
Yea can you please share them? I'm interested to see what they say
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 7 жыл бұрын
I took the tests at Harvard and they told me I can't change my mind about either being racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic conservative or a tolerant, feminist, pro-LGBT liberal.
@Gorattin
@Gorattin 7 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. That begs the question: why the training then?
@wolfbenson
@wolfbenson 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, the overlooking of free will and the ability to make choices not constricted by "the unconscious."
@asmodean7239
@asmodean7239 3 жыл бұрын
We can’t be judged based on our unconscious choices. Only on conscious ones. Unconsciously we are machines of survival of our genes. Selfish in all cases except for those when being altruistic is self-beneficial. Ready to destroy anything that stands in our way. That is why those reflex memory tests don’t mean anything. Our ability to make conscious choices makes us moral agents. (if you agree with morality models of behaviour). In addition to that we can’t see anything as it is even in theory. Not just other people, but anything in the universe. We can only see how thing appear to our senses and how things can be interpreted given the specifics of our brain and nervous system. So, I guess try to fight the irritation of doubt and satisfaction of belief and don’t rush to conclusions, but deal with the fact that there is no such thing as objective truth. Everything to a certain degree is defined by who presides it.
@pedromoser01
@pedromoser01 4 жыл бұрын
IAT is not a diagnostic test... it only measures a particular attitude in a specific social context. The test is good and lead to interesting conclusions, but it needs some caution.
@pedromoser01
@pedromoser01 4 жыл бұрын
@Sonnenrad shut the fuck up man, you have no idea what you are talking about....
@iforgot799
@iforgot799 9 ай бұрын
Correct!
@kylemccormack1785
@kylemccormack1785 Ай бұрын
It has no place in the work place.
@letsgoBrandon204
@letsgoBrandon204 3 жыл бұрын
There's a theme with racists or any other flavour of bigot. They'll come straight out and 'admit' to bigotry. They might not call it bigotry, but it's quite conscious and freely uttered. You don't get to call me a bigot by the back door, so to speak.
@matthewmoran5297
@matthewmoran5297 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@kylemccormack1785
@kylemccormack1785 Ай бұрын
People need to find this way more offensive than they currently are...
@AveImperator
@AveImperator 6 жыл бұрын
AT&T now requires unconscious bias testing and learning.
@nita_alva
@nita_alva 5 жыл бұрын
has everyone forgotten that this is an invasion of our rights to privacy and that there are constitutional laws to protect this sort of thing? No one has the right to try to figure out what we are thinking, esp because when someone else knows the results of your tests it can be used to discrimate who the "bad" people are in the company but an implicit test has no bearing on what you do in reality just as much as "thinking about killing" differs from actually killing someone; one is a crime while the other is not.
@sae4842
@sae4842 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think i understand the problem here. If we all have biases, what is wrong with trying to recognize them? To me, we must have biases, otherwise how do we form opinions... Or what is wrong with having biases if we can't avoid it? I haven't done the unconscious bias training.
@fuckjewtube69
@fuckjewtube69 Жыл бұрын
Dude seriously? The point is it's nonsense and is designed to create anger and division amongst people haven't you noticed? You can't even prove something like this its literally scientific nonsense and yet it's government forced policy.
@BrotherTree1
@BrotherTree1 4 жыл бұрын
My opinion and two cents on this based on personal experience and loose research -- unconscious bias exists obviously, but the nature of it's so hypocritical, it's not even funny. Plus, it's not necessarily a bad thing because we need it to survive... again, it depends on how and why people use it. Comes down to actions and exploring the intentions behind it. Assuming the person has sufficiently moral self-awareness, I think only the individual can truly identify their own unconscious processes most accurately - not someone else. Because you can't 100% read someone else's mind. You can only decipher like maybe, say, 70-80% of it max (ie. "The jist of it" via a series of patterns across time in terms of words, plans and actions involved) via consistent impact of actions deployed. Now, more relevant to social movements recently, I think it's another morally rephrehensible, manipulative and guilt-tripping tactic or indoctrination attempt to forcibly and unconsentingly reshape your perceptions into this limited and divisive tribalistic view of group vs. group with resentment and revenge. That, to me, is an absolute disaster and that's asking for serious malevolent trouble. And it's obvious that it is because if you exercise any form of free will and individual thought or decision, they hunt you down with various forms of abuse and that unmasks their true intent - which I think is something along the lines of "join us to kill or be killed by us". And it's masked by this pseudo-compassionate idea that sounds good on paper (almost too good to be true where it's on narcissistic levels), but is malignantly destructive in terms of implementing it's deeds. And the scary part is, not only is this ideologue masquerading towards others, it's masquerading the ones, aka. "mouthpieces" or "representatives", possessed by it too (so it's like, there's a part of them that doesn't know, despite the ideological intentions, and believe it's a good and compassionate idea to say "good things" and do "bad things"... maybe that's why they manifest saying "bad things" when we question them because maybe that's how we can bleed out the possesiveness of such dangerous ideologues - as it may indicate the proper relevation of it's deeds via matching it's exact verbal articulation/description by having thoughts out loud about it, let alone challenging it). It's indisputably rephrehensible and a danger to the sustainability of life and existence itself.
@frankdracman4084
@frankdracman4084 4 жыл бұрын
Its like Maslow standing on his head, on LSD. If youre told youre a nail long enough, all youll see is hammers. Depending on whether youre nearer to Erie or Pittsburgh, which itself is predicated on if what's his name's pooty tat's in the boot or not. Im not a teacher or ever worked in education sector, but ma BFF is, and his sister is a lifer, so was his BIL till retiring last spring, and his mother. And theyre all familyof choice and known over 30 years and spent tons of time around, totally candid when were together. His mom taught elementary and middle school in Chicago Unified on and off, mostly on, for bout 3 decades, his sister and her husband for Milwaukee Unified straight outta college, and my bud was working for MKE 8ish years ort so and just starting a new gig on an island 700 miles off Alaskan coast, its the harbor all the boats from the reality TV commercial show boats ship outta. High school, actual that plus 7th n 8th grade total student body108 kids or real close to that. You truly, ya will not meet a better human being than him. Got an MBA and doctorate in some blah blah sumfin education. He got in w/ U of Phoenix when they were just getting their legs and was head of a dept of 40-50 employees, who I met alla them and any new blood come in and you could tell it was a diverse crew, UoP was into that before all the kids were doing diversity, and you couldnt overlook it they kinda had a non sexual crush on him, well cant say what all they might thunk, he was married. When theyd hear I went to prep school w/ him fuh realio theyd kinda get like a BF/GF would meeting someone had pretty much the whooole story. He was straight management/executive but he always taught least one class a semester, just cuz he loved teaching. I have never heard a slur eave his mouth, sex, race, orientation. Well he rips on Irish for all the stereotypes, drunken, brawlers but hes full on Irish both sides. Hes got friends who hell thru an affectionate classic group identity nono word but that aint mean. Hardest working most on time always fully prepared. Super genteel kinda person very soft spoken thinks bout others as much or more than himself but people get drawn to him. Like strangers at a concert 10th row center try n start a lil chat between songs. Me? Im a pretty major tool, dunno why hes still hanging w. me at all. But NOT milk toasty, from Chicago and I think it was partly cuz he mighta worried some he might raise the bar, but kids ate him up his first semester. Hed never taught lower than college and almost alla that online, they smelled noob on him. N friggin right out they gave him the worst Kotter kids on his campus, at risk, some been held back, mosta them from rough home life he said on avg 2 girls would get knocked up a year, and half or more, but NOT all native Spanish speakers, WHY? would ya have only half native English n other half non,. They let him finish 1 semester and had to on his dime attend some remedial teacher classes, be a teachers aid for 2 semesters, PhD in education, they were showing how to wrangle cats. Aside from the non liveable wage, he got it down and he quickly got such a good rep ke said hed only have 1 or 2 in a new pack who tried testing him, but metal detectors, fights, not necessarily every day or w/ his kids but brawls were a multi times a week think, guys n girls smack n sex yapping, and sposedly coming perdy near knocking boots IN class, and the liability conundrum. Ya try n get between two, OR MORE kids brawling, better than 50/50 if their parents got wind theyd come down and blah blah how dare you touch my lil angel, bigger likelihood if ya didnt step in. Nearly monthly, twice every 3months might be closer, ON the weekend, TEACHERS own time, they were required to come in and have to sit thru anywhere from 2 to 4 hours of some hooey critical group identity theory, postmodern nonsense, its not their failure, its YOURS! He was a full time public school teacher, hardly gave him a dime for it, I mean something but maybe for a whole season coaching girls JV Vball enough for him n a date to hit mortons steak house, no appetizers, AND worked 8 hours every Sat n Sun at walmart. Again and MBA and doctorate in education lived in a studio apt, the minus 1 floor no windows, like silly sparsely, used ford focus or something, he had to bust his 401 just to eat better than ramen n mac n cheese morning, noon n nite. Better pay 1/3 the class size, and he zoom interviewed for the gig, and couple others n principal or administrator or whoever asked him if he had any questions after shed asked hers. And he asked about discipline and and policies if a kid was outta line, member he just came from something way way worse than Portier in Blackboard Jungle. He said she kinda scrunched her face a lil and fidgetted her hands n looked super anxiety, and kinda eyes avoiding his in a soft voice, and DEAD SERIOUS said :we had to send a Jr to principals office LAST YEAR. But he for some reason was OK w/ all the other crap, and under utilizing his credentials, but he said it was the indoctrination of them w/ mandate to indoctrinate it down the line, all his kinds knew the vernacular whether or not the BS circular faux or just NO substance or support concepts. And he said it had been getting more n more dumped in kids n faculty together during school hours, American students if ya dunno, have been performing lower n lower for decades now, substituting propaganda for real academic instruction, in the limited hours they had could only compound that problem. He said minimum once a month, one month they had 3 conditioning sessions where some for fee pbt sector person would come in and go thru their rote memorization routine, from the 16 campaign till he left trump derangement syndrome got bigger and bigger, a buncha non academic stupid comment or policy move, or just implication the media chose to really really blow up principal on command from district admin would email all the teachers, 7-12, and tell them extremely concisely how they HAD to frame and word how the wild lil beasts were to have it molded, one a his kids, black, govt housing, single mom young, who gave him a younger sister, aint that sweet. Kid was a joker he said and wore a maga hat one day just to rile the staff up in a place w/ metal detectors, where it wasnt that unusual one was slipped in thru a bathroom window anyway, none ever discharged during his tenure, but at some other campuses, a few no lethal stabbings, kids full on doing the dirty sometimes not even in an empty room, around the corner of hallway, also not the norm but not that unusual cops had to be called when a fight went WAY too far. Not that I resume faculty was quite freaked out by when cops had to be dispatched, brawls, certainly any weapons, sex in a kinda secluded corner mighta been no biggie. But he said the faculty, well vice principal n then principal lost their mind over it, like first thing kids still entering n metal detectors n two security guys checking bags n let loose on WTF they were thinking letting a mage hat in. He was laughing telling me some of he shirts caps n major hoochie mama wear he noticed on kids chuckling and gawking at it all, F da police, I dont luv you hoes, thats why Im out the do, n likes dat. Lame as it is totally non academic agenda fuel, whether its political, social, fiscal, religious, or anti religious is allowed to slither its way into the education system which only makes it seem that much more credible as opposed to across the street ready to pitch the rap to kids leaving school, AND how slick is it to make a buck "training: teachers w/ or w/out students too.Guess theres the answer to WTF revenue streams does an oppression critical creative fiction theory degree offer, ya educate.....errr propagate future sock puppet armies to continue the cause (Goebbels would be envious) but I dont even have kids, but stealing however much opportunity to to gain a sound foundation high school ed before taking up precious class time and open drive space in teenage minds is the pisser. Its like partisantardation, or dropping out, everyone loses, whatever their group identity profile it bears some expense on alla us
@tryitout-701
@tryitout-701 4 жыл бұрын
but one of the developers of it teaches in harvard so people buy it.
@garth7825
@garth7825 7 жыл бұрын
TLDR did a video on unconscious bias and disproved one of the studies.
@hunterpowers317
@hunterpowers317 7 жыл бұрын
which study?
@garth7825
@garth7825 7 жыл бұрын
Hunter Powers The video is called Implicit Bias and Police Racism by TL:DR
@hunterpowers317
@hunterpowers317 7 жыл бұрын
Garh: Thank you! In several videos the Prof. has said that the research shows that implicit bias training doesn't work and that often time it actually makes racism worse, and I would really like to know his sources so that I can review them and reference them in other discussions. I think you've given me a good place to start.
@garth7825
@garth7825 7 жыл бұрын
Hunter Powers no problem
@etagged
@etagged 7 жыл бұрын
Garth MacDonald hey kinda late but I have a prof that says there's a good correlation (for psychology; she said .30 or .40) between implicit bias assessed by the IAT and respectively biased behaviour.. do you know which studies show that and if they're full of shit?
@seanprobber7711
@seanprobber7711 2 жыл бұрын
I've disagreed with a lot coming from JP, but he is spot on here. Even as far back as 2012, the professors at my institution had thrown away this line of research for the reasons stated in this video. The fact that the IAT's are so popular this day is a true perversion of the field. It really hurts to see
@mattmahoney890
@mattmahoney890 3 жыл бұрын
Sir this is a bus station
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy 3 жыл бұрын
"your perception needs adjusted" .. who decides your perception needs to be adjusted , this is evil in action
@inthso362
@inthso362 3 жыл бұрын
We have a biological predisposition to be wary of 'unknown/other'. Can someone please cure me of biology?
@WesNye96
@WesNye96 3 жыл бұрын
Next video, “How to Outsmart Your Own Unconscious Bias”
@Mopar_JJ
@Mopar_JJ 3 жыл бұрын
I share this view on the test. However, if I were to outline this and take this stance I’m sure to have a failing grade lol
@aenamabag
@aenamabag 6 жыл бұрын
Lol. The suggested next video for JP's critique of unconscious bias theory is JP explaining the unconscious mind of the SJW. Doesn't get more hypocritical.
@manishseal8990
@manishseal8990 6 жыл бұрын
This man deserves a noble prize
@furtim1
@furtim1 7 жыл бұрын
First. That is all.
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 7 жыл бұрын
furtim1 Information noted. Thank you for your input.
@lakshmisharma3412
@lakshmisharma3412 Жыл бұрын
I literally doesn't understand that what does bias mean, I mean you are saying you are bias, how can you judge you ae not how can bias person say others are bias
@berner
@berner 3 жыл бұрын
I work for a crown corporation here in Ontario. I just got told I have to go through unconscious bias training. I'd like to know why it is that people in my HR department is biased against Muslims, gays, blacks, transgender people etc. I'm having a hard time keeping my opinion to myself. I really wanna sue but even my union is far left.
@robinlee28
@robinlee28 2 жыл бұрын
It's on its way out. Thankfully. UK civil service have ditched it.My school are ditching it. Hope it continues to disappear.
@danielregan1874
@danielregan1874 4 жыл бұрын
Peterson is a Titan.
@clairemakesthings
@clairemakesthings 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree with him that the IAT is a flawed test and should definitely not be implemented as training - that's nonsensical as it's a phenomenon, not a tangible factual substantial experience. But i don't think we should disregard unconscious bias simply on the fact there isn't a test for it - a phenomenon is still worth considering and studying, and we can see from our own experiences that people stereotype and infer information about people unconsciously in a way that causes harm to others! And I don't think that them implementing this test is a forced way of changing political ideology, if your ideas are grounded in good information and no change is necessary then these sessions won't change your ideology. No freedom is taken away by completing this training - it's simply asking you to reflect on your perspective for the benefit of wider society, which most intelligent people should do regularly. The more you learn the less you know - no one should be so rigid in their opinion that they can't consider another one. Also, why is this man so angry? Always very angry.
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness 4 жыл бұрын
No evidence. None at all.
@awesomedavid2012
@awesomedavid2012 3 жыл бұрын
He's angry because people are being manipulated on the deepest level to fulfill someone's agenda and that is true oppression. Jordan is upset that his discipline is being used to oppress the human soul. He's upset because he cares about preventing atrocities
@johnjacobjingle7177
@johnjacobjingle7177 3 жыл бұрын
Share it
@milpatel83
@milpatel83 Жыл бұрын
1:22 - Er, you cant sit there, mate....
@nicholashearn9712
@nicholashearn9712 6 жыл бұрын
Go here: www.virtuallab.org.uk/nhiat/ to take an updated version of the test with additional categories and see how you score. Comments and questions welcome.
@tlowensjr
@tlowensjr 2 жыл бұрын
We took an unconscious bias class at work. None of the contents of that class was consistent with unconscious bias. It was mainly promoting the idea that women in higher positions are more profitable to companies.
@zissler1
@zissler1 4 жыл бұрын
Why is Shia lebouf sitting by him? I keep expecting him to tell “he will not divide us!”
@witwisniewski2280
@witwisniewski2280 5 жыл бұрын
Backlash to this explains election of Trump.
@alishatruemper9501
@alishatruemper9501 4 жыл бұрын
My company is making bias testing mandatory.
@bigfactsbroski
@bigfactsbroski 4 жыл бұрын
just went through one of these trainings at my company. I agree that unconscious bias and implicit bias are real and need to be dealt with. The training was led by a UCLA professor and it was a complete joke. 3d rendered pictures telling me that most people think the darker skinned 3d avatar is smiling less, pictures of the eyes and forehead of a black guy and white guy and being told that most people think the white one is happy and triumphant while the black one is hurtful and angry. It's complete nonsense and shook my faith in the social sciences. the white dude looked like the neo nazi guy from sons of anarchy, I was honestly more pissed looking at him!
@armink.4173
@armink.4173 2 жыл бұрын
My employer just went there. I will not comply.
@seanmoran6510
@seanmoran6510 3 жыл бұрын
Not just your employers but Big Tech
@marquesn77
@marquesn77 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking isn’t wrong
@wlamb9
@wlamb9 6 жыл бұрын
Dr Peterson is right on here. We should resist these indoctrination attempts.
@Omega30t2RG
@Omega30t2RG 3 жыл бұрын
Very sinister!
@JohnLoRePhD
@JohnLoRePhD 3 жыл бұрын
It’s Big Business
@Atreus21
@Atreus21 4 жыл бұрын
My HR manager just recommended this to all of us and I'm wondering about whether to risk my job to contradict them. I've got a wife and kids and I'm the lone income source.
@johnw9986
@johnw9986 3 жыл бұрын
This was just made mandatory for me also. Such a joke.
@Atreus21
@Atreus21 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnw9986 as long as we remain silent and unwilling to risk pushing back on this foolishness, they will take ever more territory.
@MrSladej
@MrSladej 2 жыл бұрын
Exact same scenario at work and home for me. I need to take DEI training to complete my goals to then revive a bonus that I would happily give up if it meant I wouldn’t have to waste my time. My company hire 50 percent contractors that don’t receive benefits, bonus’s, time off and are really just treated like second class citizens. I used to be one and I always wondered why I wasn’t asked to join their DEI training. It all starts to make sense in retrospect now.
@jamesharris184
@jamesharris184 3 жыл бұрын
The King.
@blaketruelove
@blaketruelove 6 жыл бұрын
Starbucks
@nita_alva
@nita_alva 5 жыл бұрын
Has everyone forgotten that this is an invasion of our rights to privacy and that there are constitutional laws to protect this sort of thing? No one has the right to try to figure out what we are thinking, esp because when someone else knows the results of your tests it can be used to discrimate who the "perceived bad" people are in the company but an implicit test has no bearing on what you do in reality just as much as "thinking about killing" differs from "actually killing" someone; one is a crime while the other is not.
@reubenjohn3471
@reubenjohn3471 3 жыл бұрын
Why does he have to shout lol
@MsBridgesSocial
@MsBridgesSocial 5 жыл бұрын
Stantec does this. It's an international architecture and engineering firm. Like the Amazon of architecture. Very bad!
@jamesharris184
@jamesharris184 3 жыл бұрын
Shameful; I wasn't aware that testosterone was in such short supply. Perhaps we should start putting it in the water.
@david0hinckley
@david0hinckley 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have access to links or references to primary papers examining the effect on behavior of implicit bias training (or testing)? Intuitively I reject the claim that the result of this test matters more than my conscious, thoughtful behavior toward others (of any group) but in most of the circles I run in, primary research papers are king. Post a reply if you know of some good research papers on this. Thanks!
@SeraphsWitness
@SeraphsWitness 4 жыл бұрын
David Hinckley pretty sure the creator of the test himself talked about how it shouldn’t be used this way. But no I don’t have a link
@bmak76
@bmak76 7 жыл бұрын
Third!
@killerace7174
@killerace7174 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u for this man. They have been doing this in a tv programme for year 7s and it's horrible. The poor kids feel so bad and yet implicit bias has never been proven
@fleafarts3576
@fleafarts3576 3 жыл бұрын
This is how Hitler got the regular German people to hate the Jews. That was step one.
@jamesharris184
@jamesharris184 3 жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen Behold a superhero who speaks the truth irrespective of consequences. He's less than a one percenter. We need to all step it up and learn from him, otherwise look out for the lunatic Brigade coming near you.
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