Jordan Peterson: Why Globalism Fails and Nationalism is Relatable

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@timeless8
@timeless8 7 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson puts into words the things that many of us already know, but have never been able to properly elucidate. That is no small feat.
@victorb.8956
@victorb.8956 7 жыл бұрын
Tim Ellis under rated comment
@therationalmancunian4976
@therationalmancunian4976 7 жыл бұрын
Very.
@TheLivirus
@TheLivirus 7 жыл бұрын
Oh stop flattering yourself.
@TheLegendsmith
@TheLegendsmith 7 жыл бұрын
We don't really know it, we feel it, but that's not the same as knowing, because we can't do anything about it on just a feeling, so his articulation of it is vital.
@ztrinx1
@ztrinx1 7 жыл бұрын
Well, it isn't that difficult. Every human is predisposed to confirmation bias, and naturally, humans gravitate towards opinions and words that confirm "the things that many of us already know".
@RandomCarrot2806
@RandomCarrot2806 7 жыл бұрын
Jordan makes a far greater case for Christianity and it's importance to western culture than any priest or other theist I've heard. I'm an atheist but I think I've always believed in much of the philosophy of the bible. Jordan makes a great case for it being a much deeper exploration of human psychology and nature than I think even most Christians give it credit for. He makes a great case for the bible being one of the great philosophical texts of the world and that we as a society has forgotten much of what it has tried to teach us about ourselves.
@konrad303
@konrad303 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, however it leaves out many other ancient narratives and schools of wisdom which developed in human history around the world.
@RandomCarrot2806
@RandomCarrot2806 7 жыл бұрын
Have you seen his lectures? He pulls from a lot of different religions and philosophies and even pop culture in those. If you have the time I very much recommend his Maps of Meanings series.
@thorsmitersaw1051
@thorsmitersaw1051 7 жыл бұрын
Anders Hansen I think he's just trying to justify digging up Gods corpse after Nieztche buried the son of a bitch
@Billyb0bjoe
@Billyb0bjoe 7 жыл бұрын
thorsmitersaw he actually talks about this in the series referred to above. He goes into the "god is dead" quote in the first lecture I believe.
@Billyb0bjoe
@Billyb0bjoe 7 жыл бұрын
NicKingPapiChulo you know
@Th1nk1n6
@Th1nk1n6 7 жыл бұрын
The Tower of Babel as archetype of globalism? Brilliant sir!
@Th1nk1n6
@Th1nk1n6 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Now that you mention it, I think I've seen this pointed out in one of Dennis Wise's videos (either Communism Through the Back Door, or his newer series).
@mrssalina
@mrssalina 7 жыл бұрын
Completely correct.
@thegeth4293
@thegeth4293 7 жыл бұрын
4trahasis and God punished the builders by making them speak different languages. Could explain the driving political divide in the west right now
@Th1nk1n6
@Th1nk1n6 7 жыл бұрын
Even end times / messianic era prophecies in the Bible speak of nationS, plural, not one mass of people. Babel was a push back to individuality from global homogeneity.
@GloriousEagle69
@GloriousEagle69 7 жыл бұрын
did he call out the jews?
@hey_joe7069
@hey_joe7069 7 жыл бұрын
I love this guy. He makes me proud to be a Canadian. Even though, I'm an American.
@vincentkc48
@vincentkc48 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@helenbailey8419
@helenbailey8419 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he is a human..they...seem rare
@navigatroncidadesinteligentes
@navigatroncidadesinteligentes 2 жыл бұрын
We have to create another country to mix this both nations with this good people
@TOK150
@TOK150 Жыл бұрын
That’s funny. July 4th makes me proud to be American, even though I‘m german
@samw7998
@samw7998 Жыл бұрын
identical countries tbh
@PlainsPup
@PlainsPup 7 жыл бұрын
10:00 - I think JP's concept of "fixing what's at hand" is directly relatable to Confucius's concept of concentric social circles, where to help make the world a better place, you must first start with yourself, then your family, then neighborhood, city, country, and so on.
@j_freed
@j_freed 6 жыл бұрын
PlainsPup and it is a great psychological insight that people who refuse to do their inner work and "clean their room" always want to start with the outermost circles, is if by avoiding their own lack of organization and their own inner disarray they could still just as they are do anything at all in the world. It's like being a lifeguard trying to rescue people from drowning before one learns how to swim. The fact that water is dangerous and people can drown does not justify running off to be an inept lifeguard.
@jacobs8000
@jacobs8000 Жыл бұрын
@@j_freed Who judges if you "cleaned your room" tho? At what point does your room become clean? How can we guarantee that the elite who are running our society does in fact have "clean rooms"?
@windsongshf
@windsongshf 7 жыл бұрын
"The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen" Dennis Prager
@dnw009
@dnw009 7 жыл бұрын
Well to have any effective large military you need a large organisational structure, and you can't leave that in the hands of an corporation. Basicly what the tea party is for. Goverment exists for specific reasons and should not go beyond that.
@WarTurkeyify
@WarTurkeyify 6 жыл бұрын
YT is the biggest and almost only game in town to make a rive of near equal power would be long and expensive. In the time it would take to = YT, YT would use their absence to further the part of the left it supports. media history in the early days of the U.S alone show how important a media platform is for a party and by extension any political movement
@awsomedude12345678
@awsomedude12345678 6 жыл бұрын
B.Krishnan Iyengar thats the problem with jewish conservatives they are always pro war
@alanssnack1192
@alanssnack1192 6 жыл бұрын
maybe the world is exactly as it appears to us, maybe there are no reptilians or elite, maybe theres just a few big organisations that are just a load of employees perpetuating themselves, and at the top its just a board of directors running each of these competative organisations, then we have the governments that are "negotiating" between themselves which we see on the news, and thats it, no conspiracys, just a load of bullshit perpetuating itself.
@Fopenplop
@Fopenplop 4 жыл бұрын
"the bigger the government the smaller my penis. if it weren't for taxes, my wife would actually want to sleep in the same bed as me" also prager
@mrssalina
@mrssalina 7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Peterson has to be on the list of the handful of people who are the most brilliant people alive today.
@Gregoryt700
@Gregoryt700 7 жыл бұрын
Yes -- and he's a true polymath, a rarity these days
@Historiesend
@Historiesend 7 жыл бұрын
mrssalina what criteria are you using to come to that conclusion?
@slipknnnot
@slipknnnot 7 жыл бұрын
Rawls Ghost He just enjoys the fact that this guy is a PhD and panders to his ideology. Peterson sold out as soon as he gained traction fighting against SJW and he adjusted himself to take advantage of the populist resurgence in the West. Now he's a millionaire that uses pseudo intellectual and religious arguments hand crafted to gain more patreon subs from the Pepe kekistani culture of KZbin.
@mrssalina
@mrssalina 7 жыл бұрын
You mean you disagree with his thoughts. You have serious issues if you cannot recognize the intelligence in another person because you disagree with that person.
@nikolatesla2963
@nikolatesla2963 7 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, people who speak common sense with some Ph.D are called as Genius.
@SilvanaDil
@SilvanaDil 7 жыл бұрын
One of the few sane people in PM Trudy's Canada.
@cherylmegeney5197
@cherylmegeney5197 7 жыл бұрын
SilvanaDi
@robby12320
@robby12320 7 жыл бұрын
Don't be so dramatic, jesus.
@malignor9035
@malignor9035 7 жыл бұрын
Considering the support he has from us in the grass, there are more than a few of us.
@meh4770
@meh4770 7 жыл бұрын
Peterson may be sane, but the political options in Canada are not many. On one side you have ignorant, hypocritical, incompetent conservatives, on the other, naive, righteous, elitist, liberals. Do you see why people inevitably choose the latter?
@SilvanaDil
@SilvanaDil 7 жыл бұрын
Therefore, Canada is doomed.
@Gilgaladt
@Gilgaladt 7 жыл бұрын
This man is so brilliant it blows my mind. He completely changed my view on old myths and scripture.
@synergyzer07
@synergyzer07 7 жыл бұрын
This man is a genius. I'm grateful for the opportunity of listening to him.
@DGLA13
@DGLA13 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the greatest problems with neoliberal internationalism is that it assumes that what works in one society will work for all. And consequently that way of thinking and course of action causes more problems than what it attempts to fix.
@XAmericanRenegadeX
@XAmericanRenegadeX Жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking some sense. Their idea asserts that the only reason that what you say is the case, is because there are a plethora of cultures, religious beliefs, standards of ethics, etc. That is why they are fomenting a cultural conflict. They are attempting to show you that different cultures lead to conflict, thus we should all unite under a single "world culture" and they insist we think of ourselves as "citizens of the world." Once you've broken down national citizenship mindset, and have everyone thinking they are a citizen of the world, you can start working on a single single code of ethics, then even scarier, a single religion... whether it be the religion of science or something else, the end result is the same.
@roland20002000
@roland20002000 7 жыл бұрын
There's a shorter way of putting all this. Not every one has the same vision of a utopia. So if 50% of the population all agree on the vision of a utopia that is to be built the other 50% who have different visions of utopia are going to be oppressed.
@dutchmilk
@dutchmilk 7 жыл бұрын
@ The Antidote, A very clear way of expressing a undeniable truth. There is no absolute.
@jaysnowden7136
@jaysnowden7136 7 жыл бұрын
But there are certainly Utopian visions where the large majority of people agree (let's say 95%, even 100%) that would still fail miserably if you begin with the wrong assumptions.
@mrssalina
@mrssalina 7 жыл бұрын
Any body pushing for utopia is out to lunch. Humans and human systems can improve but they cannot bring utopia.
@roland20002000
@roland20002000 7 жыл бұрын
Nihilism Annihilator If you jump through a concrete crusher you will die, if you believe you can jump through a concrete crusher you will still die.
@OneLine122
@OneLine122 7 жыл бұрын
Shorter maybe, but it is not what he is talking about at all. Even if everybody agreed on something, they could still be wrong because of the complexity of the system, and the higher you aim, the more likely it will fail. The 200 sheep that jumped off a cliff last week all agreed to do this, yet they were wrong. They all forgot to take gravity into account.
@GordonGarvey
@GordonGarvey 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine we're in a simulation and the real version of ourselves live in a society which has reached that perfect but boring state and we've put ourselves in this life to just feel alive.
@TheADDFiles-yk4dc
@TheADDFiles-yk4dc 6 жыл бұрын
Gordon O'Gairbhith You may have just described virtual reality.
@santiagorende5835
@santiagorende5835 6 жыл бұрын
we can still play videogamos
@omg2mad4u
@omg2mad4u 6 жыл бұрын
And maybe, given a long enough timeline, this simulation will build a simulation of itself, ad infinitum.
@Universalbeing0
@Universalbeing0 6 жыл бұрын
Too much DMT
@iamyouarei9497
@iamyouarei9497 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, that's just one of those delusions people under 30 like to entertain
@darthhodges
@darthhodges Жыл бұрын
A thought that occurred to me was a warning. "Even if you are the smartest person in the room, that doesn't mean you have the right answer." I am guilty of thinking I am the smartest person in the room at times, but reminding myself that I can still be wrong, regardless, is good for me.
@skyetube1
@skyetube1 7 жыл бұрын
Beyond Brilliant.
@Indoor_Carrot
@Indoor_Carrot 7 жыл бұрын
I remember the Matrix touched on this issue when Neo met the Architect. He tells neo that the first Matrix was designed to be perfect but the human mind couldn't accept that. :)
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. They introduced imperfections into the Matrix, for more stability, but all it really achieved was a longer time between breakdowns. And "The One" who brought down the whole thing was all part of the Revolutions plan, and used to build the NEXT version of the Matrix, with lessons learned from the previous, for the best possible Matrix. Very funny that Neo was just the 10th or 20th "The One."
@dmkdata
@dmkdata 7 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Peterson is missing that globalisation has a technological component that goes beyond political will and utopias. Technology has continually made the world "smaller" in terms of communication and mobility and will continue to do so regardless of politics. Even Political systems that are open to globalisation are barely able to keep up with technological progress and nationalistic systems need to take extreme measures to contain those technologies. However, no technology can be contained indefinitely and a technology that is out can never be taken back. Globalisation is happening as long as we have technological progress and you either go with it or you lose the globalisation game and whine about not everyone benefitting properly from it. However, we need to make sure that it happens properly and does not end in desaster (Totalitarian), which will be extremely difficult.
@dnw009
@dnw009 7 жыл бұрын
Even under a globalised earth there could still exist independant nations working together with other nations. You don't have to give up your culture and heritage for globalisation.
@draconisdragonheart4248
@draconisdragonheart4248 6 жыл бұрын
Your comment: "Totalitarian, which will be extremely difficult". That was incredibly lame. We now have the ability to monitor what you say and where you are. The Elites plan total control and they will use technology to suit their needs. Your every word can be used to create a narrative.
@shsober
@shsober 6 жыл бұрын
Well said. It seems you have been places and done something!
@Ioganstone
@Ioganstone 6 жыл бұрын
Globalism is a ruling system. Peterson isn't talking at all about globalization, which is what is currently happening due to technology, ironically decentralizing while the politicians are going in the opposite direction..
@draconisdragonheart4248
@draconisdragonheart4248 6 жыл бұрын
Well stated LoganStone. It is the Globalist Elitist that feel they need to control the West.
@skepticalkhan6439
@skepticalkhan6439 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite scholars. Every time I am listening to his lecture. Without listening to him or watching any video cannot make my bed for prolonged sleeping. If someone does have this thorough lecture from bargaining to the end, kindly ship it to me here. I will be greatly indebted to you. Thanks.
@jondoh2226
@jondoh2226 6 жыл бұрын
If you aren't going to watch the whole thing... At least watch from 9:53.
@TwinklesTheChinchilla
@TwinklesTheChinchilla 7 жыл бұрын
Hubris is, perhaps, the most significant sin within the Bible. If you pay attention to those forgiven by God, they always had to bend knee first, no matter how perfect or wretched. God often humiliated these people severely, regardless of how powerful and necessary they were to the plan. Paul was a proud Jew and hunter of Christians, but he was blinded and his sight would only be returned by seeking help from one such as he had previously persecuted. This theme had repeated itself numerous times, by this point in the scripture, and haughty people were forced to be broken, before being remade. Peterson seems to emulate this process in forcing his students to recognize their own flawed and horrible nature. They're forced to see the monsters they could be, if only circumstances were different. The only thing lacking is the utter horror of being judged by one infinitely your superior and being helpless to contend with it.
@TheBasjenator
@TheBasjenator 7 жыл бұрын
Well naturally, as the man is himself a Christian.
@Jono6671
@Jono6671 7 жыл бұрын
TheBasjenator no he isn't hahaha
@izawaniek2568
@izawaniek2568 2 жыл бұрын
There is so much wisdom in everything Jordan Peterson said. Thank you.
@mattc2812
@mattc2812 7 жыл бұрын
Insight on the Tower of Babel: The problem was not the tower. The problem was the bricks. The bricks represent people. The people were transformed from stones into bricks - each person equal to every other person. Land of Shinar is not a specific geographical place. It represents any land where the thinking is apart from God with a tyrant as leader. They did not first say, let us make make a city and a tower. They first said let us make bricks. In other words, let us make everybody equal. Then the mortar that holds everything together is materialism. God scrambled the languages in order to save the people, not punish them. They were on a dangerous path that would eventually lead to their destruction. This information comes from the oral Torah.
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 7 жыл бұрын
Your interpretation is far too complex in that story, people wanted to reach the God and take it under their own control But in the process, they actually forgot what they were doing and why. the same situation happened many times in human history revolutions start with some good goals but before that goal; is reached people forget what they are doing this is what happened to soviet union roman empire and many other civilizations who eventually lost their goal felt into consumerism trap and disintegrated. However, the bible also forgot to mention that time will pass and people will unite again to build a new tower and it will be much bigger than before if may fall down again but there will be always next time until one day people will reach the god. I wonder what will happen at that time probably it will be the end of humanity and victory of transhumanism. This time we were extremely close to the victory and it is still possible that we will finish our tower and kick God out of his throne.
@mbw6785
@mbw6785 7 жыл бұрын
Matt C makes sense. I'd get behind that interpretation
@mbw6785
@mbw6785 7 жыл бұрын
deltaxcd Disagreed. There's more than one reprise of the motif. To "kick God from his throne" is an utterly foolish and fruitless endeavour, but of course people will continue in their attempts to do so, and to their own demise.
@jasonmey5235
@jasonmey5235 7 жыл бұрын
I think this interpretation leaves out an important point: Babel was supposed to unite all humanity in one place. "Let us... not be scattered over the face of the whole earth." It was direct defiance of God's command to "fill the earth and subdue it." God wanted mankind to be everywhere, not collected in one place. This doesn't conflict with the interpretation, but I think it is central to the story.
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 7 жыл бұрын
+Jason Mey I think it will too blunt to interpret it that way, it would be stupid to think that all humans will move to the single place and live there it is more sensible to understand unity in ideological terms as single world government In that way, Babel represents globalism.
@wholesoul
@wholesoul 6 жыл бұрын
Many years ago, as a graduate student, I was taught the the greatest and overarching dynamic of any society or civilization was and is between Liberty and Equality. Peterson's Tower of Babel or organizations becoming all encompassing reminded me of this seeming axiomatic dynamic. Liberty can be associated with unpredictability while equality is just the opposite (predictability and uniformity). Think about this dynamic and remember what Peterson said about the realization of an Utopia ala "Notes From The Underground". People would grow rebellious being kept within an invisible prison of equality with its sameness for everyone and everything. People would revert from this controlled artificiality of equality to liberty (i.e., individuation, freedom of expression, unconformity, etc.) overnight just to feel alive. Kind of like what Agent Smith said in the Matrix, to paraphrase, "The first Matrix could have been called Paradise, but people rejected it. Whole crops were lost."
@TheNightsway
@TheNightsway 7 жыл бұрын
I'm always humbled by Jordan Peterson in the most fundamental and useful way, and I can't get enough of it.
@antoniolewis1016
@antoniolewis1016 7 жыл бұрын
He didn't say Globalism fails. That's not a good title. He was talking about the EEC, not globalism. And at that, he said "it seems". Also, he didn't endorse Nationalism. These clickbait titles are ruining Peterson's reputation.
@boatybear1013
@boatybear1013 7 жыл бұрын
Antonio Lewis you're in the wrong place, that was all about "big systems" and how they always fail, come on then, name a bigger system than Globalism.
@redrose-wb4bw
@redrose-wb4bw 7 жыл бұрын
Prof. Peterson was absolutely referring to globalism. Everything he said was about that concept. It's a shame that you missed it Antonio Lewis, maybe have another listen whilst thinking about globalism. Not click bait at all.
@domzbu
@domzbu 7 жыл бұрын
The EEC is a globalist project. It is the (failed) intermediate step from nationalism to globalism.
@cabbage9398
@cabbage9398 7 жыл бұрын
He mentions the choice between nation states (Nationalism) and "Globalism" (which is the new way of saying "Internationalism" or Anti-Nationalism"), and is explaining why he sees nationalism as the better option. "Globalism" (in this context) is not to be confused with 'Globalization' the economic concept, although they are somewhat related.
@domzbu
@domzbu 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed. And the EU is a globalist project being as it is now a fully political project beyond it's initial conception of being purely economic.
@oslo8055
@oslo8055 5 жыл бұрын
I lterally love the man. I love his work. So precious in this world of uncertainty, hesitance, stupidity and unwiseness. May god be with him. So that he can save the world. Amen to Jordan B. Peterson.
@jesusislordsavior6343
@jesusislordsavior6343 4 жыл бұрын
Queboy Billy Unfortunately I have the impression (if only I were wrong) that he is 'almost a Christian'. Close but no dice won't save a man. Sometimes people are a little too smart for their own good. Jesus said that one must be converted and become like a little child in order to enter the kingdom of heaven. Elsewhere he spoke of being 'born again'. Real conversion is not a cultural experience, but a gift of the Holy Spirit. I truly wish the man well.
@TDawg736
@TDawg736 7 жыл бұрын
The basic Catholic social principle of subsidiarity deals exactly with the issues of levels of government and how the lowest level government capable of dealing with a necessary thing is the level of government that should do it. Otherwise, government isn't responsive to local needs and is resistant to input from the locals. People are disempowered. *Traditional* Catholicism gets everything right.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 7 жыл бұрын
I found myself nodding my head subconsciously while Peterson talked, like one of those damn bobbing-head toys that used to be popular. It's all so bloody obvious when he points it out, but very few people up to now have woven the threads together so convincingly.
@hugehappygrin
@hugehappygrin 7 жыл бұрын
The great philosopher M. Jackson said "If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change" - Man in the Mirror.
@guilliz3307
@guilliz3307 5 жыл бұрын
Porque esse video esta na playlist de SuperVlogs da Supercombo ?
@jondavidgriffin
@jondavidgriffin 7 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the story of seth eating away at the ailing osiris relates to what we are seeing recently with dark forces attacking western civilisation
@randalglyph4967
@randalglyph4967 7 жыл бұрын
And the "willful blindness" of senile Osiris being the willful blindness of the leftist dominated west.
@Bhubnipz
@Bhubnipz 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, your side is the righteous and the other side are evil/very very dumb. Whatever you have to tell yourself.
@Akita538
@Akita538 7 жыл бұрын
The Right has had monopoly on political power in the West since roughly 1980. If you 'see' tyranny without end as preferable to a free society (ie: a representative democracy) you are the one who is truly blind.
@darrylrtaylor3056
@darrylrtaylor3056 7 жыл бұрын
Akita538 Be cautious about buying into the Right/Left spectrum. While the general distribution of people in a balanced and survivable population can be plotted as being at some point along that axis, the perception and self-identification or projected value systems of either end have become increasingly distorted reflections of each other, and could not be considered either sane nor reflective of reality. Try to look at it using this analogy: You have two friends who might not get along with each other (in fact they have very different beliefs), but who have the same qualities that you consider fundamental to a decent person, and you value both of them in different ways. Out of the blue, one day you come across a crowd on the street that is bunched into two rough groups in a circle around something, and when you make your way to the front of the crowd you see your two friends standing in a circle. They are stripped down to the minimum clothing that could be considered remotely decent, their left wrists are tied together with a 5 foot rope, and in their right hands are switchblades, and they seem ready to go at it. Getting into knifefights with anyone isn't in either of their characters, the one friend is comfortable with brawls but doesn't pick fights and is willing to let things go, the other one avoids fights but will stand up for themself if cornered or if someone is stepping out of bounds with someone weaker than themselves. What happened? (hint: you notice a couple of guys who seem to be working together taking bets on the winner, and the odds are set so that they will make a "killing" no matter who wins)
@KaikouraBoy
@KaikouraBoy 7 жыл бұрын
You could relate many stories to modern problems and deduce some meaning and applicability, particularly as history seems to repeat itself. However I suggest reading the book "The Two Babylons" by Alexander Hislop. In it you will find sufficient evidence suggesting that most religions- and now foremost catholicism- are derivations of the pagan religion based on Nimrod the King of Babel. Osiris is another form of Nimrod. The story of Osiris is a "deification" of Nimrod. Greece also had its own version. It's a good read if your interested in that sort of thing.
@IvanCADtutorials
@IvanCADtutorials 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jordan, for reminding me on two things. First is to stop and clear my mind for few seconds before I answer, and second is to say "I don't know" when that is true. Actually i would said "I do not have opinion or enough knowledge/informations on this/that", but I somehow lost that in last few years, so thank you for reminding me to keep doing it. When I am listening to your lectures I, just a little, regret that I made a choice of Mechanical engineering over physiology 25 years ago :)
@KhalilEstell
@KhalilEstell 7 жыл бұрын
I hate the way that so many KZbin Channels take Jordan Peterson's lectures and give them titles that seem to twist his message.
@onpatrolforthejuice
@onpatrolforthejuice 4 жыл бұрын
One of the wisest men of our time. We are so lucky to have Dr. Peterson.
@vanishingstone1637
@vanishingstone1637 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant man!
@zoronic6248
@zoronic6248 3 жыл бұрын
What a G. Jordan Peterson is the modern day father of philosophy
@bishbosh4815
@bishbosh4815 6 жыл бұрын
My Granddad always says the same. That history repeats itself. Take every Empire throughout history has expanded and dominated and enslaved, until the gap between the bottom and the top is so vast that their power weakens, the slaves rebel and overthrow them. A lack of resources, climate change and competition from new Empires alsl contributed to their collapse. Now, the West is under exactly the same collapse. Opposing ideologies that cater to the youths of our society: the next generation opposes the belief systems and values of the society they are in. Overpopulation and climate change are depleting resources creating water, food and energy insecurity worldwide. And bureacracy is running the world, focusing on how to feed it's unquenchable greed, not the needs of the people, who are indoctrinated by them from cradle to grave. Nationalism is now the appropriate response to globalism, and a second ideological war has begun
@LuisGonzalez-hs5pe
@LuisGonzalez-hs5pe 6 жыл бұрын
What if the Right-Wing Populists support the "global free market" and the Nationalists support "socialism"?
@williamseipp9691
@williamseipp9691 7 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine said this, and I'll never forget it. "Everybody wants to save the world but nobody wants to take out the trash". Also related is Steven Covey's circle of concern and circle of influence. Or "think global, act local". All meaning that its most important to take personal responsibility for our own actions first. If you've "sorted yourself out" as Peterson puts it, I believe people will naturally follow your example because they see the benefits. Besides, time is limited. After work, taking care of kids, entertaining ourselves and whatnot, just how many hours in the day do you really have? Not much. Anyone with kids knows what I'm talking about. Gotta set your priorities straight, because life IS short.
@OleVinny
@OleVinny 7 жыл бұрын
He makes a great point about Europe. I always laugh when I hear Americans (not talking JBP here) talk about Europe, as if we're a collection of states. We hardly identify with our neighbouring countries. When we travel a couple hundred miles we don't speak the same language anymore. We look different, we have different weather and food, we value different things. The cultural differences are so vast that any idea to bring them all together under one umbrella as dr. Peterson put it is just ludicrous. I don't feel like a European. I've never felt like a European. In fact, there are such big differences in culture and temperament that we already have huge issues in the EU applying the same rules to everyone and making everyone bear the same weight, which we don't. Differences in ages when we retire, in corruption, in work-ethic. It's a monster that helps no one, that breeds resentment and takes billions from the wealthy members to throw it into the depthless gorge of the inefficient. I recently liked something I heard: If throwing money at the poor would help them no one would be poor, yet this seems to be the depth of EU's problem-solving mentality. And what's the narrative in the media? Don't want to be in the EU? You're going to be the bad-boy outcast in class. No one will want to play with you. You don't want that do you?
@konrad303
@konrad303 7 жыл бұрын
One has to also consider the great benefits of the EU: There never has been a time that long in written history where there was no war in this territory. This is huge. The EU is the most succesful peace project ever. Of course there are still many things to critizise, but they can be fixed without giving up the basic concept. Germany btw is also made up of different states which waged war against each other not that much time ago. People from different German regions also have quite different traditions, temperament, culture, history, landscape etc. Nevertheless it was possible, very successfully, to create an enormous nationalist narrative telling Germans they're even kind of a superior race, only some decades after Germany actually was a unified country for the first time. US patriotism has similarities: even though its people are a multicultural mix of people from all over the world, many Americans feel they have the greatest country in the world, superior to all the others. It's all based on narrative, quasi-mythological. And this is always in construction and thus can and does change over time. One should try to find the most peaceful, most productive narrative including habitants of the whole globe. Globalism today suffers from a narrative and concept dominated by partly inhumane economic aspects which only benefits the rich.
@bebbebbebable
@bebbebbebable 7 жыл бұрын
Vincent Jacobs I'm a European and I disagree with most that you say I don't think there's a big difference or at least difference that is bound to keep us apart whether you are English Swedish Polish Dutch Spanish French Swiss Norwegian we get along just fine yes there are minor cultural differences but nothing that would stop us living next door to each other we all raised in western civilisation like a drink party listen to similar music most of us speak English I don't think there a big difference between us and Canadians or Americans the differences are so small that when someone immigrates the the only difference second generation has its surname before EU Europe was tearing itself apart mostly due to strong nationalism. When English nationalism will get loud enough and German Polish and Swedish will rise we shall see how tolerant each other we will become of others strong nationalism. Those Who Do Not Learn From The Mistakes Of History Are Doomed To Repeat It.
@thorsmitersaw1051
@thorsmitersaw1051 7 жыл бұрын
Vincent Jacobs I've yet to meet more than a handful of people from Europe that didn't fit every stereotype we Americans asign them
@simondo3
@simondo3 6 жыл бұрын
The nuclear deterrent also played a major roll, the EU has done nothing for peace in fact in that respect it has been a failure as it has become something that people now despise and that they now want to destroy. The EU is corrupt, it was erected using deception and will most probably be the cause of future wars
@plenoptic
@plenoptic 5 жыл бұрын
globalism is just nationalism on a larger scale. For example in nation states which are a combination of different ethnic groups with strong cultural affinity, there’s usually a preference towards the ethnic group before the nation with the same mindset nationalists have about their nation to the rest of the world. For example in Nigeria with over 140 ethnic groups, there’s a usual hierarchy of importance. Family > Community > Ethnic group > Country > Continent > World. This I guess is due to sharing common ideas, history, language etc. But in nations such as England where generally people view themselves as a holistic people without taking into account anymore how much of their ancestry could be Norse, Flemish etc, there’s now the new cultural identity of being English. But of course before assimilation it would have been different segregated ethnic groups. For globalism to work, there needs to be a unifying culture & mindset. The world is becoming less pre-industrial revolution culturally diverse, almost everyone is speaking the same language while rates of speaking older languages are declining, people share modern interests beyond borders, people listen to the same music etc. These are the new cultures. In the next few decades, I doubt much of the generation would care about much about ethnic affinity but instead interest affinity. Actually majority of people in the west don’t practice the culture of their forefathers prior to the 1900s, besides the religious ones. Their identity is based on new world concepts. This is where a concept like globalism would work, but not now definitely. Besides what’s the difference between the concepts of nationalism and globalism beyond the definition? Nationalism is simply land-locking; nations vary in population and land mass. It’s just strong cultural affinity restricted to a population within a land mass.
@ghostdog4330
@ghostdog4330 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best clips of Peterson yet despite the rather dubious you tube headline.
@spartacusforlife1508
@spartacusforlife1508 6 жыл бұрын
Globalism is good ? There is a simple statistic that debunks this. Since the 1980's wages, in real terms, have gone down, in western economies, while wealth for the top 1% has grown hugely.
@rautibo
@rautibo 5 жыл бұрын
is good for some. like everything
@yadosamma
@yadosamma 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant is a minimal word for the lecture / speech of Mr. Peterson. 'Mon chapeau' for him. I just wish there would be translations with voice-over or subtitles available in several major languages. It would be terrific !!! Do I ever know people who would be interested in this video ...
@kittypigeonclueless5566
@kittypigeonclueless5566 7 жыл бұрын
I have not come across a fellow in modern times who seems to have things figured out as well as this guy in the video. Not only does he have what's really going on figured out, he has the ability to articulate radically complex ideas so that people like myself can understand through the use of stories both modern and ancient. The world needs more sensible elite thinkers like Peterson, that said I think the communists and the fascists will find a way to muffle him sooner or later.
@bebbebbebable
@bebbebbebable 7 жыл бұрын
Bob MccKenzie I would ad Christopher Hitchens to that list.
@mrspaulb3889
@mrspaulb3889 10 ай бұрын
I’m late to this thread by 6 years, but I just wanted to say thank you. You put into words exactly what I was thinking. It’s a sign of his brilliance that he is able to discuss such complex matters, yet people like me that didn’t even finish college can still follow along. “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” - Albert Einstein 😉
@scumbag8021
@scumbag8021 6 жыл бұрын
When you talked to me about how the socialist utopia would collapse even if it worked greatly, it reminded me deeply of A Brave New World by Huxley. A place where the government takes care of everything, and the populous can simply laze about. Our protagonist in the story fights back against that and retreats into nature, and to a secluded light house because a part of him needs the freedom not only to succeed but to fail, that is why to the a citizen of Utopia, he lives in Dystopia. Man has the paradoxical need for freedom and acceptance, order and chaos. Fantastic lecture Mr. Peterson.
@DanHowardMtl
@DanHowardMtl 7 жыл бұрын
Peterson is a genius.
@AlBundy65432
@AlBundy65432 7 жыл бұрын
Dan Howard Jordan Peterson is exactly what society needs, his words are like a kick in the behind in our complacency
@pointcuration1278
@pointcuration1278 7 жыл бұрын
What our society needs is not Jordan Peterson's words alone, but your words. It needs people like you and me to above all else, tell the truth.
@jimmycrackedcorn226
@jimmycrackedcorn226 7 жыл бұрын
No he's not. He's disingenuous at best and likes to target minority groups he doesn't like. He's a reactionary scumbag that couches his bullshit in pseudo scientific nonsense.
@gankspanker4204
@gankspanker4204 7 жыл бұрын
jimmycrackedcorn226 funny i say the same about sam harris
@mrssalina
@mrssalina 7 жыл бұрын
jimmycrackedcorn2261 Your post is true inane bable.
@marianomanto
@marianomanto 2 жыл бұрын
Put the link for the full lecture in the video description... It is just simple courtesy
@therealthreadkilla
@therealthreadkilla 7 жыл бұрын
GOOD THING WE HAVE MEN LIKE THIS WILLING TO SPEAK UP....damn caps lock.
@georgekyriazis1
@georgekyriazis1 7 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. So few profs are actually teaching these days (at least something that matters) and this just feels good.
@georgekyriazis1
@georgekyriazis1 7 жыл бұрын
Not really your business where I studied but I can tell you all my profs are left leaning and Marxist sympathizers. Every single reading and lecture was anti-right pro-left.
@admerius5737
@admerius5737 7 жыл бұрын
Next JBP title: "Clean your room or you are literally Stalin"
@MrtinVarela
@MrtinVarela 7 жыл бұрын
Too damn accurrate. Jokes about clickbait aside, I wish youtubers could focus more on highligting the point that Peterson actually tries to convey instead of misrepresenting the whole talk by injecting bias towards the personal opinion of the youtuber about a strongly related yet out of place concept. That's not to say that I have problems with people adding their own opinion about Peterson, at all, as long as they mark their words as *their* words and not from Peterson or whoever is featured, even if you could frame and even extract such concept well within his original expressions. My opinion of course.
@IcarusFalling99
@IcarusFalling99 7 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jones Cleaning your room is a sort of a gateway to getting yourself together. Simply put; How do you expect to have your money, plans of the future and life together if you don't even have a clean room? How can you comment on very complex issues in politics when you can't even do a simple thing, and keep your room clean? Very poor explanation, Jordan does a way better job at it so go listen.
@KingMinosxxvi
@KingMinosxxvi 6 жыл бұрын
um im pretty sure allot of succesful peoplw dont clean there own room, they have maids...duh ;) and yes Im being playfully ignorant of the spirit of the contenion for the sake of levity ...bleep blop bleep
@Myrslokstok
@Myrslokstok 6 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jones It is probably moore about take some kind of comand and responsebility about the thing closest to yourself. It is to clean it but as much to arange the room after your needs for a better life. To have the nessesitys like a bed (sleep and rest), clodes, order and cleanes for you to take on the possibilities and challanges of life. It is to learn something about yourself, how to transform at least the small stuff that you can fix.
@MrBoywonder1985
@MrBoywonder1985 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant insights. Peterson is a national treasure, thank God he exists!
@Alsatiagent
@Alsatiagent 7 жыл бұрын
To read these lectures as a ringing endorsement of nationalism or other far right ideology is not to have understood much at all.
@dnw009
@dnw009 7 жыл бұрын
Not an ednorsement, more of an understanding why these people are grasping onto nationalism in response to what is happening in their country.
@SimMaster
@SimMaster 6 жыл бұрын
yes the answer must be in the middle! wow
@conorhowells7306
@conorhowells7306 6 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with nationalism, not all nationalists are mass murders and white supremacists in fact the vast majority are not. I come from New Zealand and am proud of it, I love my country as far as i'm concerned its the best country in the world. Now I don't want it to be over run by foreigners so that the Europeans become a minority, I don't want us to forget our history and our culture and I certainly don't want us to have to conform to cultural rules if you like of a people that come from a completely different land than the one we originate from. This is happening in Europe, Muslims are more and more attacking Europeans because they don't like how Europeans act. I hear in some parts of Britain they are not allowed to play Christmas carols as it might offend muslims. There is no way I want that to happen in New Zealand. I want to preserve my country for what it is European and Maori New Zealand, that does not make me xenophobic or racist in fact I like meeting people from different countries and would encourage tourism. And I do not think one race is better than another its just as someone else has said in this section it would be terrible if the Japanese became a minority in Japan, its the same for me and New Zealand or any other country for that matter. To be nationalist does not mean you are a terrible person or a criminal for most people it just means you love your country. PS. I'm not really replying to anyone.
@jansenjunaedi4926
@jansenjunaedi4926 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I don't hear him mention anything about nationalism as a solution. But a side effect.
@malamati007
@malamati007 7 жыл бұрын
So profound. And he THINKS in between the times that he talks. That's what I think is remarkable--he doesn't just rattle on. The part about perturbation of large systems, and how you can't predict--unbelievably powerful for me, and I can't wait to get to work tomorrow and try it out; see how it goes. I do agree that you have to have your act together to change your family--and my spouse agrees! I just find it life-changing. Thank you, Jordan Peterson!
@evilmadman8242
@evilmadman8242 7 жыл бұрын
"I try to think but nothing happens" - #ProfeticLiberal
@philsburydoboy
@philsburydoboy 7 жыл бұрын
Evil Madman "I try to tell a pitiful joke, but I just end up spelling it wrong" #Prophetic
@philsburydoboy
@philsburydoboy 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, but at least I don't take L's as easy as you take D's
@racistedgelord5214
@racistedgelord5214 7 жыл бұрын
philip martin, I'd give you a W but I only give hard R's.
@taimoorqamar8121
@taimoorqamar8121 7 жыл бұрын
Full Sight damn what a clever and original comment “duhhuhuh take this L”
@multimeter2859
@multimeter2859 6 жыл бұрын
Evil Madman There's pure autism in these replies. Lol
@stand4liberty522
@stand4liberty522 7 жыл бұрын
Very good cinematography. The focus is on the mind (head) and the gestures of the hands (body). There is just enough light to show a body that carries the mind and hands.
@yvanguez2077
@yvanguez2077 6 жыл бұрын
The myth of the Tower of Babel brings a greater light on our modern totalitarian times if we read it in Hebrew. The word "Levina" or brick used to built the Tower is composed of two words : "Lev" ( heart) and "ina" (oppressed).
@LuisGonzalez-hs5pe
@LuisGonzalez-hs5pe 6 жыл бұрын
Does that mean real capitalism have never been tried?
@yvanguez2077
@yvanguez2077 6 жыл бұрын
Luis Gonzalez - On the contrary, it means that capitalism is the economic system since the beginning of the agricultural civilisation 6000 or 7000 years ago. Definition of Kapital : " huge accumulation of wealth in the hands of minority" . I don't agree with the Marxist division between the 3 big economical periods : Slavery, Feudalism, Capitalism. Capitalism means exchange of products via the media of money and profits from the Plus Value for the capitalists. So we can observe Capitalism working in Sumer 4000 years ago. The priests were the keepers and sellers of the stocks and also the bankers ( they invented scripture and compatability). With the plus value they built Zigourats ( first pyramids) to study the sky and created Astrology. It's why I knew that there was a hidden meaning behind the story of the Tower of Babel. These people were not crazy, but very smart. There project was transform Humanity in God. The modern scientists have the same project. Mathematics is the universal sharing language and to succeed they have to broke the heart of the children to transform them in individuals with cold heart ( Levina or brick) Hebrew B and V are a same letter, so with Levina (brick) we got the Hebrew word LEV. Lev is the root of the English Love , German Liebe and the universal value LIBerty.
@drakke125Channel
@drakke125Channel 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to say that a perfect utopia where there is the utlimate 'peace' and no work, is actually th worst utopia, which I honestly agree with. Realistically speaking I don't think humans can handle that, achieve that, or can maintain that utopia. Nor is that utopia 'good' for us either. At least the way we are now.
@stevenalibaster1490
@stevenalibaster1490 7 жыл бұрын
Down with globalism!
@TheTyme99
@TheTyme99 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Alibaster globalism products to much money, it will never be fully stopped
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 7 жыл бұрын
Globalism is a fact. How are you going to shackle it? That would require rules that are enforced right? That too is globalism.
@DizeezerV
@DizeezerV 5 жыл бұрын
Long live globalism!
@ladis123
@ladis123 7 жыл бұрын
Great speech to listen during cleaning a room or two. Love you Jordan.
@helenbailey8419
@helenbailey8419 3 жыл бұрын
AND MAKING YOUR. BED.In my experience it begins and ends with cleaning...
@TheGoobsters
@TheGoobsters 7 жыл бұрын
He's presupposing that a Utopia would be static but a Utopia literally means the best possible society, which would be exciting and excellent but with no violence or troubles. An unattainable goal, surely, but i think it's worth mentioning that we can strive for an actual Utopia, rather than be scared of totalitarian "Utopia" that he is describing.
@libinwang2267
@libinwang2267 7 жыл бұрын
what conflict exists in a world without struggle? What progress can occur without the primary impetus for progress? Progress cannot exist in a "utopia", because an imperfect utopia is a contradiction. Utopia implies the spaces nearest to perfection and a perfect world, while progress implies imperfection in the world. Utopia is incompatible with the notion of progress, and therefore is a static society.
@MrtinVarela
@MrtinVarela 7 жыл бұрын
+Libin Wang You're giving a false premise, and probably an equivocation fallacy. A utopia is an hypothetical society that possesses very highly desirable or nearly perfect qualities for its citizens. Unless you help me, I can't find anything about such definition that *necesarily* implies perfection or even exclude further progress whatsoever.
@konrad303
@konrad303 7 жыл бұрын
Many people miss the concept of utopia being an idealized goal. It is not meant to be actually achieved but serves as orientation to determine the direction a society should progress to. Once progress is made, new imaginary utopian concepts emerge, as new problems need to be solved and new tools become available for it.
@kudooo270
@kudooo270 7 жыл бұрын
Martín Varela OP isn’t saying a Utopian society “progresses” He is saying they aren’t static. Being non-static does not always mean moving forward or back.
@pinkusfloydus9373
@pinkusfloydus9373 6 жыл бұрын
When your 6 ft under. You will get your utopia
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 6 жыл бұрын
10:45 I submit that BECAUSE it is so hard to set your own house in order is exactly WHY so many would prefer to announce their broad-scale plans for social revolution: It's the procrastination principle in action. It may also be the case that it's easier to blame outside factors for your failure to set your own house in order, and thus this drives the desire to "fix the world" because this is what's preventing you from fixing yourself.
@lapidus9552
@lapidus9552 7 жыл бұрын
#HARDBREXIT
@hoofed
@hoofed 7 жыл бұрын
Also known as #Brexit.
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 7 жыл бұрын
+Dylan Wiki Rogers nationalism is not a magic bullet because nations also need to expand and grow so the result is pretty much same as globalism except that one nation is enslaving weaker nations and it will inevitably end with the single nation on the earth controlling everythng Globalism at least is more just because slaves are at least given theoretical chance to become masters. and globalims also fails for same reasn when slaves no lonbger believe in theyr ability to become masters
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 7 жыл бұрын
There is no need for evidence as it is not some kind of conspiracy. What I mean is that because of simple logic no matter how do you distribute power between different groups they will al try to grow indefinitely until only one group will stay and other will be exterminated. Globalism essentially skips all that painfull process and gets to the end result in one step. Just like the situation in the Europe, which had many national states that were constantly fighting each other untill finally Hitler came and ended all wars.
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 7 жыл бұрын
I do not seen any evidence that globalism can foster any conflicts or why it should do that. Plain people benefit a lot from benefit but local elites are pretty unhappy as it takes away their power. Nationalism is opposite of that because local elites thrive in expense of plain people whom they exploit as they want.
@zainbali7819
@zainbali7819 6 жыл бұрын
I love the man’s ideas as he paints what otherwise would be boring and complex economic and social trends in stories of metaphors and allegory that make broad sense of the topics yet I feel like much of what he is discussing is too obscure and simple to actually translate into a usable understanding of the economic, technological, and political factors that create a trend such as globalization.
@ZeddZul
@ZeddZul 7 жыл бұрын
Fucking love that tie
@SouthernInquirer55
@SouthernInquirer55 6 жыл бұрын
KZbin is a mess.. but there is something great about the way that watching this smart man wave his hands while he talks draws people to listen in a way that an audio file will not (for many).
@OperatorOscillation
@OperatorOscillation 7 жыл бұрын
I've never considered the story of Babel to be anything other than a moral objection to a space program.
@aitor.online
@aitor.online 7 жыл бұрын
Mansplain Blane +1 upvoted retweeted liked reposted
@baron8107
@baron8107 6 жыл бұрын
Mansplain Blane Globalists despise the idea of Humans claiming the stars. Why?
@csongorszeplaki4297
@csongorszeplaki4297 6 жыл бұрын
Then you never understood the message of the story of the Tower of Babel...its not like "you can't build high rise buildings yo, or dont go to space". Almost all of the biblical stories you shouldnt interpret word-to-word.
@csongorszeplaki4297
@csongorszeplaki4297 6 жыл бұрын
Thats not what I was trying to say. I meant his cause-effect relation was flawed. The reason why they started to build the tower was to intentionally mock God. Just like when Jesus withered the fig tree. Its not like he withered it because "fuck fig trees" or anything. The action was symbolic.
@csongorszeplaki4297
@csongorszeplaki4297 6 жыл бұрын
"we're supposed to read between the hundreds of thousands of lines contained in this book and guess what's literal and what's symbolic?" Short ans simplified answer: yes, and its called theology, and its just not the bible, but the quran as well. "the people who wrote Bible claimed it contains the ultimate truth so why would they use symbols?" I already said it, its not what I meant. I said god punished the babelians because of their intention, not because they built some tall shit. Also the new testament overrided the old testament, and thats why jesus came. His sacrifice was the apex of the reformation.
@jungkookie1956
@jungkookie1956 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant and very necessary right now
@Acesahn
@Acesahn 7 жыл бұрын
"Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from." -Agent Smith
@ernieshaw2178
@ernieshaw2178 7 жыл бұрын
Wisdom rings all through this one.
@lochinvar5589
@lochinvar5589 6 жыл бұрын
He's actually talking about Agenda 21
@ArnoldvanKampen
@ArnoldvanKampen 7 жыл бұрын
@ 8:30 Complex systems, made by man, one could possibly compare to other living organisms. For instance a tree: As a human, it is completely impossible to comprehend the fullness of what it means to be a tree. Yet, a carpenter knows just enough to bend it according to his wishes. As he goes on to perturb the helpless tree, nothing bad actually happens. That is to say, not at face value. In a broader sense indeed, one might think of soil erosion and other changes in the micro climate triggering a whole chain of events.
@poeslaw1648
@poeslaw1648 7 жыл бұрын
Bow to your new gods! Job Creators!
@Ian-yf7uf
@Ian-yf7uf 7 жыл бұрын
Poes Law There is no shame in starting your own company. The biggest danger is monopolies, corruption at the highest and lowest positions in society, and in the same way government is as well. Ultimately the fate of the planet and humanity lies within the small decisions individuals make every day
@poeslaw1648
@poeslaw1648 7 жыл бұрын
You are confusing entrepreneurs and CEOs with Job Creators. Job Creators can do no wrong, they are better than the rest of us. They are the prophets of Luntz that don't need peasant workers as they can do everything by themselves. They just grace the working class with some money since they are too stupid to live on their own.
@joshgarbemusic
@joshgarbemusic 7 жыл бұрын
Poes LaSalle kķ
@badass447
@badass447 7 жыл бұрын
Poes Law what is an example of a job creator? you are very ambiguous as to what this person is.
@mrssalina
@mrssalina 7 жыл бұрын
How is your post relevant to this video?
@Dejawolfs
@Dejawolfs 7 жыл бұрын
it is the natural tendency of all life to want to reach it's apex. civilizations wants to see how big they can grow, until they collapse. then another civilization will build taller upon it's rubble.
@LuisGonzalez-hs5pe
@LuisGonzalez-hs5pe 6 жыл бұрын
You just described the USA...
@brianct7801
@brianct7801 7 жыл бұрын
The title is a bit (a lot) misleading: Jordan didn't say globalism fails (or has failed). He suggests that disconnected bureaucratic schemes that don't take culture and tradition into consideration aren't sustainable. He's right. And insofar that one aspect of globalism entails flooding homogeneous societies with millions of people from completely different cultures, I would say that ONE aspect of globalism is unsustainable. But from an informed economic perspective, ECONOMIC globalism makes a TON of sense and leads to improved economic conditions GLOBALLY. This is something that nationalism TOTALLY get wrong. Likewise, globalism that encourages QUALIFIED immigrants (ones that aren't radicalized or EASILY radicalized) from 2nd & 3rd world countries to enter 1st world countries benefits everyone except racists and irrational xenophobes.
@cabbage9398
@cabbage9398 7 жыл бұрын
I think 'Globalization' refers to the economic model, while 'Globalism' refers to the political concept of Internationalism or "Post-Nationalism". Could be wrong though.
@John1samar
@John1samar 7 жыл бұрын
Brian CT economic globalism only works if we never fight with each other ever again. We can have a global interconnected economy without needing government bureaucrats taking substantial shares. Beyond that a perfectly globalised economy is a horrific idea because you're relying on others to give you your goods. You need a mixture of exporting, importing, and diversification of your own production else you become too big, too large, and then when it does collapse is a far worse than it should have been. A global economy is completely different from the idea of globalization of the government and should never even been conflated. The government has no right to exist within the conversation.
@jimmycrackedcorn226
@jimmycrackedcorn226 7 жыл бұрын
So he's espousing white nationalist points? Gotcha
@dutchmilk
@dutchmilk 7 жыл бұрын
He is not espousing white nationalist points nor is he talking about globalism failing. Mr Peterson is only highlighting the roots of issues of a system which failed. He does not endorse one over the other.
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 7 жыл бұрын
Brian CT _Globalism that encourages QUALIFIED immigrants (ones that are not radicalized or easily radicalized) from 2nd and 3rd countries to enter 1st world countries benefits everyone except racists and irrational xenophobes_ So the only reason someone would disagree with this view of yours is muh racism and xenophobia. This alone should disqualify you tbh. Agree with me or you're a racist. You do realize that an immigrant can be both not radical yet still culturally incompatible right? You do realize that the majority of 3rd world immigrants don't give a fuck about the dominant parent culture and large numbers of them even hold incompatible values, not to mention having much higher birth rates than natives, so they end up segregating themselves in parallel communities. Only an idealistic idiot would think literally everybody should agree this is good for the country unless they're wacist or xenophobic, that is of course even setting aside the majority of 3rd world immigrants to Europe (for example) are not qualified to begin with so your argument is more hypothetical. Also I love the _not easily radicalized_ part. It is as if that's reassuring enough to be let into a country. Come on guys he can be radicalized, but not that easily! You gotta radicalize him well so he's fine. Let him in.
@destinedtobedifferent9921
@destinedtobedifferent9921 6 жыл бұрын
I have such a hard time thinking economically. I'm supposed to write a paper about "Globalism vs Isolationism", from an economic standpoint, but I can't help but do it from a political one. Here is the draft for my paper: I think that the United States should move more towards isolationism, because it is more achievable than globalism. This is because they are both trying to achieve unification, but globalism is trying to achieve it on a much larger scale. If it is hard for US states to come together and make policies that they will all agree with, it will be even harder for different countries to do so. This is because as the scale increases, people become vastly more different, and more and more compromises must be made to make the other side “happy”. At some point, the cost of compromising outweighs the benefits. Complete globalism would require all of the countries in the world to share the same societal values, which would effectively eliminate culture. Complete isolationism (on a national level) would have countries doing whatever they wanted within their own borders, and not interacting with any other countries. This is achievable, but it would cause a lack of resources and security if other countries are interacting. If a completely isolationist country tried to become more globalist, it would have to give up some of its economic policies to work with another country. I think that the United States (and all other countries, if they want to be happy) should put their own value system first and then the values of other countries second. In a world with one person, everybody does what they want. Everyone is has complete freedom. what this really means is sacrificing your own beliefs to appease the other side. Groups become much more different from each other on a bigger scale compared to a small one is is because I believe people will always have their differences and that we can’t and shouldn’t try to become all one society. I think that it would be better for countries to decide for their own what values they want to have
@darsiruysenaar9741
@darsiruysenaar9741 7 жыл бұрын
The diversity of man, the natural world, race and cultures, already creates an " is " . All attempts at collectivizing this have gone wrong and ended in bloodshed. Diversity is not only nature, it is the law of creation ! Celebrate diversity ! That's why we travel to foreign countries ! It's an educational mirror, a wake up that different peoples do it differently ! Celebrate it. ! Don't try to obliterate it !
@ob1kanob772
@ob1kanob772 7 жыл бұрын
The survival of the species demands that diversity be maintained.
@TheHappyMerlin
@TheHappyMerlin 7 жыл бұрын
At 2:20ish when he mentions that humans desire chaos, discomfort, and uncertainty, there is a direct connection to what The Architect from The Matrix says about how the original Matrix was too perfect for humans to accept.
@_Breakdown
@_Breakdown 6 жыл бұрын
All politics is local. Nationalism makes accountability practical, responsive and doable. Try to imagine if the citizens of Mumbai had to vote for the mayor of NYC - or - if the mayor of NYC had to be accountable to the citizens of Mumbai.
@ChachiTelevision1979
@ChachiTelevision1979 7 жыл бұрын
One of the most sane voices we have today.
@badpictureman9638
@badpictureman9638 7 жыл бұрын
He is not for stupid people. He is for open, honest people who don't like ideology.
@zlatkoc7113
@zlatkoc7113 6 жыл бұрын
He explained the currant situation in the world better than anybody else. Simple and to the point. Such a smart man.
@Olivia-W
@Olivia-W 6 жыл бұрын
So... depression can be a good thing. It brings you down to the everyday level, and you learn to appreciate every little step.
@tannersanden4250
@tannersanden4250 6 жыл бұрын
JP is the most daring and brilliant intellectual of our time.
@keffbarn
@keffbarn 7 жыл бұрын
Who said a utopia needs to be static? No one says we should remove competition and individuality. In fact, for a utopia to work there needs to be inequality and competition so we have meaning in life. What utopia means is simply a system where all the rules are maximized to human happiness, for everyone. Which in practical terms simply means a fair system, where everyone can reach their maximum potential. Mr petersons view of utopia seems to be very rigid.
@ZeroBaller0
@ZeroBaller0 6 жыл бұрын
robin jacobsson We already do in the U.S., we have freedom of speech, religion
@emara666
@emara666 6 жыл бұрын
I confess I admire the way he thinks, but I will also give myself the liberty to address some points: 2:11 This is an excellent argument against a divine paradise, it will crumble under the weight of it's perfection. 5:00 On the subject of relating to nationalism and tradition, It's come with an array of problems and dangers seeing that it's a nationalism is a bottomless pit, in itself it could prove fatal as the case of Iraq, Libya and Syria and across the Arab world there are demands from many people including myself to abolish the Arabian identity from their countries. From my perspective a utopian system will definitely fail because it no longer provides challenge to keep the people interested, but failing and dismissing the merits of the idea of a global system and it's not about building a utopia as much it's about safeguarding the human species and prevent them from wasting time and resources on petty squabbles but rather direct our attention to the opportunities and dangers this cosmos holds for us, I am afraid we might shamefully cause our own extinction. These are my thoughts.
@ciozara
@ciozara 7 жыл бұрын
Too fail to big.
@konrad303
@konrad303 7 жыл бұрын
Concerning Petersons point around @5:00: Many, if not to some degree all nations historically came into existence in a quite imposed manner. The ordinary people did not decide which territory was claimed by rulers. It just happened, and they had to cope with it. So the common history people of a nation share is often more an artificially constructed narrative than really personally shared experiences. And the people of the EU share a larger narrative than those of single nations, just as single regions of a nation have different traditions and often quite strong regional identities. This is especially true also for the USA, which hosts people who immigrated from all over the world. Still, there's a strong common narrative which unites them, once they're American. In Canada, which likewise became home of a huge number of immigrants, there even are two official languages spoken in different parts of the country, nevertheless there is a common national identity. So, these identities can change, they are cultural constructs, and culture progresses.
@BladeValant546
@BladeValant546 7 жыл бұрын
I will say this, there is a stark issue with definitions of words here. First of all, his definition of globalism and nationalism is tragically over simplified to the point the semantics are a major issue. I will not assume he simply manipulated definitions to suit his perceptive and assume it might be in Globalism-the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis. This is the simple dictionary definition. How it pertains to the modern era is simply because of the evolution of technology. With this definition, it assert merely an effect from a cause, this cause is the introduction of fast transportation and communication. This has created a system by this countries are now interconnected. Their connections are economic and now increasingly politically and socially. This is a 100% unavoidable side effect of technological evolution. It needs to happen, once we drop our more primitive tribalism and accept and view ourselves as a species we can better use the planets resources. It is simply put going to continue to happen, and it needs to happen. However, as it seems to be used in this context is some kind of strange perception it is an intentional dissolution of the nations for some nefarious reason that no one can seem to ever fully articulate. They say globalism, but they never specify particular aspects that are bad. Now if there is something I am overlooking please share. nationalism- (assuming this definition) -advocacy of political independence for a particular country. Now this is where there is a strong segment of the human population that views this kind of tribalism as primitive and and they "don't get it", same people view greed and overt selfishness as also equally as primitive and "don't get it" . So, in short I fail to see as many do the need for the preservation of any independent nations; as I am defining independent, I am meaning different governments and isolation of its peoples and political and social mechanisms. Now, if you have read this far I am not stating any cultural or heritage related preservation should be erased or discourage. Legacy is a major component in terms of self identity. So being German, being Italian, being chinese, being American , and being etc I would say is till there. However, thinking proactively and not short sighted, we as a globe need to stop looking at each other nations as "us and them" instead unite under agreed too and logical/rational social, economic, and political structure. Now i will touch briefly on the common argument, "human nature". This is not a panacea nor is it good to over simplify what human nature is. Humans are social creatures and we will always trends towards herding together. Sapience adds deep levels of complexity to human species behaviors. However, evolution and growth changes our behaviors. We now through neuro-science know various form of anti social behaviors and their neurological links.The behaviors that screw this up are sociopathic and psychopathic brains performing anti social behaviors. Also, the American ideology of consumerism and corporatism has breed entire generations favoring this kind of destructive behaviors. These are now finding out to be able to be treated, once these kinds of issues are treated we wont have the same human flaws. I cannot go into depth as that would be an essay, but we need to start thinking bigger and more umbrella...this notion I am German therefore Germany should be and always be germany no matter what is destructive..and honestly a psychological projection of one's one over self importance over the reality.
@FayAlexGG
@FayAlexGG 7 жыл бұрын
I love when you reference Egyptian mythos {all of them are on point,but that ones in particular} it would be interesting to have a mythos/religion option in your online school/ patreon
@TheHerrUlf
@TheHerrUlf 7 жыл бұрын
Does this guy ever get off work?! ;-)
@lapidus9552
@lapidus9552 7 жыл бұрын
Work hard. Meme hard.
@pahakuutti
@pahakuutti 7 жыл бұрын
Heard he gets 50k/month just on patreon donations from people, and I can't think of anyone who deserves it more.
@andrewandrew65
@andrewandrew65 5 жыл бұрын
What a truly marvellous sermon.
@abhijitvmehta
@abhijitvmehta 7 жыл бұрын
I always find it hilarious to see western intellectuals worried about too much diversity. Too many languages and cultures under one nation seems unnatural to them. Look at India, we have 15 official languages, six major religions and countless different subcultures and yet we are one nation. Learn from us.
@abhijitvmehta
@abhijitvmehta 7 жыл бұрын
Justinius 777 what is so amazing is you are so proud of your ignorance.
@Ashmoke
@Ashmoke 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that and reaching Mars on the first attempt, having nuclear weapons and bunch of other stuff
@dukekenny9340
@dukekenny9340 7 жыл бұрын
Abhijit Mehta because it’s destroy our culture. The West does not need third world cultures
@abhijitvmehta
@abhijitvmehta 7 жыл бұрын
You are too poor to afford it anyway.
@dukekenny9340
@dukekenny9340 7 жыл бұрын
Abhijit Mehta I live in 10 richest county in the United States
@umiluv
@umiluv 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it’s quite apparent that universities and colleges were not what they should be even back in the early 2000s when I was going there. Serious lack of critical thinking, overemphasis on getting good grades instead of learning, disregard for the environment and others - those were all characteristics I saw in my classmates at a very prestigious public university in California. I was initially so excited to go to college because I thought I would be staying up late nights having amazing discussions with people who wanted to exchange ideas, contemplate the world around them and make positive changes but nope... Instead I found people throwing away recyclable bottles in the trash literally 2 feet away from the fucking recycling bin. Needless to say, I was immediately jaded by my experience and had an inkling back then that the university system was full of shit. Now we know that it’s absolutely a scam and that an entire generation of people are paying for this dream that their parents promised but didn’t actually exist. Still such a disappointment knowing that there are so many ridiculously mindless people that get degrees. It almost makes my degree feel entirely meaningless which sucks because I worked so goddamn hard for it. (I say almost because I did major in science so there is some value to it in the marketplace.)
@warlocksden
@warlocksden 7 жыл бұрын
the fact that peterson can talk about god shows how the jews and christianity through an empire can force culture over time, at all costs
@warlocksden
@warlocksden 7 жыл бұрын
religion has been created out of culture, the idea that one way of life is more important than anothers is what creates religion
@SuperVince1010
@SuperVince1010 6 жыл бұрын
thinking is hard work
@edgepixel8467
@edgepixel8467 7 жыл бұрын
Or one maybe shouldn't develop such a fixation for a 19th century novelist.
@arnemaris6850
@arnemaris6850 7 жыл бұрын
Ed Gepixel Age is just a number ;)
@jaysnowden7136
@jaysnowden7136 7 жыл бұрын
Or maybe we should give an ear to voices that speak from real world, gritty experience rather that some academic elite in his ivory tower.
@edgepixel8467
@edgepixel8467 7 жыл бұрын
+Alosy 77 Nothing better to do than finding reasons to be bitchy on the internet? Such a pathetic thing you are.
@edgepixel8467
@edgepixel8467 7 жыл бұрын
+Alosy 77 You're beginning to be funny. Go on. And try to vary your insults a bit. Or maybe your wit doesn't even go that far?
@dorbid
@dorbid 7 жыл бұрын
You got owned bitch
@jamiekloer6534
@jamiekloer6534 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly he puts everything I know into words. He helps me understand and articulate all the things I have tried to learn and understand.
@darylbenson9682
@darylbenson9682 7 жыл бұрын
What does anybody see in this guys lectures???? He sounds very well read but has no insight into anything. He's communicating simple ideas in a generalized fashion sprinkled with references to scholarly publications as if to make the points seem more intellectual.
@Sean5381
@Sean5381 6 жыл бұрын
How many of his lectures have you watched?
@spex357
@spex357 7 жыл бұрын
On the button as usual, thanks Jordan.
@HeiseSays
@HeiseSays 7 жыл бұрын
Every time I listen to Peterson my reading list grows!
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