Jordan vs LeBron - The Best GOAT Comparison (LEBRON FAN REACTION)

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[@joshm6854]

Watching dude defend Lebron with the Jordan logo on his jacket is hilarious.

[@MindIntoMotivation]

I’ve never seen a lebron fan actually really wear his gear like everyone wears Jordan either

[@killerman9309]

Just shows subconsciously his spirit even knows where’s the lebumbs jacket at 😂 these new age dudes logic is low key zest it’s more impressive to lose than later on win and never lose again than to keep loosing 😂 keep making it to the finals an loosing is @$$ 🤣🤣🤣

[@killerman9309]

Dude first of all Lebumb only went to ten finals. two who is greater the dude who goes over the girl house 6 times and smashed 6 times and all the men around her neighborhood wants to be that man or the dude who went over her house 10 times an smashed four times but shared her with your best friend 3 of those four times and you think you the best she ever had 😂 and dudes around her neighborhood still talk about and want to be the other dude. -----------------but they don’t want to be the other dude who they see go over her house more an call him a simp because he goes over her house sometimes an leaves right back out 😂 -------------because she got other plans to bring somebody else over who knows you and looks at you as soft and is determined to share the spotlight and you can’t stop it 😂 -----------------wile when the other dude was coming over she had no desire to be shared 🤔 and wile you know you are sharing the title as main dude you still trying to convince her your the best she’s ever had------------------ but she still thinks the other dude who she doesn’t see no more is better an even hold other dudes who been long gone over you 😂 -----------------but your friends you hang with try to keep convincing you you are the best she’s ever had but deep down they even know you can’t mess wit the other dude 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@user-bk1mm5nw6y]

funny

[@RockTheIconXXX]

If you put the warriors back then the warriors wouldn't have won due to the sheer size and cohesiveness of the teams back then you had guys like Zo Mourning and Mutumbo guarding the paint now there's nobody in there to do it so yes the paint wide open and there's no rim protection.

[@TheThreeHeadedDragon]

The Bulls were not built around Jordan... Jordan pushed his team in practice until they improved to a level where they could compete at the highest level. He built the team up around himself.

[@SlaineReigns]

To add, Lebron never "Carried" his team. He was with a Superteam that he got those chips (2012-2013 Heat, 2016 Cavaliers). Enough with the argument that LBJ "carried" anything. He didn't.

[@alfasiger4178]

Thank you for pointing this out. Everyone around that time knew Jordan pushed his team. This lebron generation doesn't understand this.

[@michaelwhite8119]

Yeah, one sentence I never heard back then was, “Jordan needs the right player around him to win.” Jordan was ball dominate and could also go on the post and rub off screens off the ball and be just as effective. He was also a more elite defender. To me, that’s game over. Not to mention footwork.

[@user-rz2gp2hm9z]

Jordan trained Pippen and pushed his teammates to play fearlessly and all out 💯

[@UnKnownn2520]

fucking barz

[@vincequiroga6761]

MJ played against every player that you can remember that are in the hall of fame. Most of these players today aren’t even close

[@alfasiger4178]

How many players got rings from beating Jordan?-----0 Who got rings from beating lebron----Curry, Durant, Thompson, Green, Iguodala, Nowitzki, Kidd, Terry, Marion, Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Chandler. GSW practically built their dynasty from beating lebron. Who built a dynasty from beating Jordan at a time when the league was more physical, defensive, and players were more competitive?----NO ONE.

[@fitzroy6970]

@@alfasiger4178this is FACTS 😊

[@gabrielw7773]

Especially with the pussy defense they play today.

[@gabrielw7773]

@@alfasiger4178 Except Larry Bird, but even he as only 3-2 in the finals.

[@kedrprao]

Every player from Isiah Thomas led Pistons and Larry Bird led Celtics got rings by beating Jordan. How many true championship winning dynasties Jordan faced on his way to 6 rings? NO ONE. (Only Magic's Lakers faced Bulls in one finals but they were alomst done.) MJ's rivals Suns, Jazz, Sonics, Blazers, none of them were true dynasties. Jordan's Bulls teams were stacked and always favorites to win the title. LeBron's era has been filled with true championship winning dynasties like Spurs and Warriors. @@alfasiger4178

[@libfit9068]

I hate this "jORDaN wAs gEtTinG BouNcEd oUt FiRsT rOunD!!!1" narrative. Jordan got bounced first round of playoffs early in his career. Well guess what? LeBron wasn't even making the playoffs early in his career, while having a stronger roster than Jordan. Atleast Jordan could pull his team to the playoffs every single season with the Bulls. People act as if losing in the first round is worse than not making the playoffs. It's weird. LeBron also was doing well cause he was playing in the much weaker eastern conference. Infact, LeBron has only ever beaten 1 single all NBA first team player in his entire duration in the east. Whereas Jordan played in the stronger conference, and would have to play against a 60 win team first round while being on a garbage lottery team.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

Facts! Outside of his rookie year every team he was bounced by 2 teams. The Celtics and the Pistons2 Legendary teams

[@garyco766]

And he was getting bounced by Bird's Celtics, one of the most legendary teams of all time, with a veteran Larry Legend leading the team.

[@killerman9309]

Jordan was loosing to teams that had 3 an 4 hall of famers an mike still got his still brought it every game. nearly winning alot of those games against those teams . When he made his break he dominated

[@silentlyanonymous306]

yeah, all facts thats crazy because thats the lebron fans argument lmao

[@KingDeuceDroppa]

Bulls were the worst team in the league, they drafted Jordan and became a playoff team that year and he was the ONLY addition.

[@michaelwhite8119]

Literally says in one sentence, “If you are the GOAT you should be able to lead your team to winning” and then not even a couple sentences later….”well, he might not have won the whole thing but he gets there.” Um, what? I’ve never had an issue with younger people who didn’t watch Jordan and grew up on Lebron as their GOAT. It makes perfect sense. It’s when the ones who never watched tell us how wrong we are when we have seen both. One thing you never heard about Jordan in a Finals was……”The key to the Bulls winning is if Jordan can finally out play Jeff Hornacek. (A 6th man scorer off the bench) That statement was made about LeBron in regards to Jason Terry in 2011. He outscored LeBron in the series. Outscored him in the 4th Quarter, blew by him and hit three with LeBron personally guarding him and let Terry take over in the clinching game 6. I’m sorry, but if you want to be the best to ever, ever do it. You can’t have that on your record.

[@all4joffrey92]

No need to be sorry.

[@jakedavis6835]

Nailed it

[@durodwilson2570]

Exactly

[@editorodriguez6554]

It’s wasn’t just Jason Terry also Jason Kidd outplayed Lebron. And this was LeBron in his prime. The difference with Jordan played he was always the best player on the court including both teams. We can never say the same with LeBron. In 2011 Wade was the best player on the court and on the Heat it was both Wade and Bosh. And from what we saw both Jason Kitt, and Jason Terry were better than LeBron and this is LeBron in his prime. Playing the Warriors lebron was never the best player on the court it was Curry and then Curry and Durant. Jordan carried his team to a championship while LeBron needs to have super teams and all-stars to carry him

[@spitnificent]

Nah he was on point and once you get out of your feelings and watch full games of Jordan you will understand why to this day he’s still known as the 🐐 even by current players in the league. The effeminate energy comes out of the new dudes when they can’t accept what they hear and can’t refute it.

[@alfasiger4178]

From watching Bird, I compared him to lebron. I can't help but think that Bird is better just from the eye test alone.

[@fitzroy6970]

@@alfasiger4178bird is better he’ll a lot of players are better than bron and prove they better by winning

[@jeremydenney9537]

Facts brother! There’s never even been a debate. Lebron fans are the only ones believing the bs. U can’t even touch lebron he acts like a sniper hit him from the nose bleeds. Lmao. And I agree bird better than lebron.

[@Darth_Lunas]

Let's not forget hand checking (and a little jersey grabbing) was still legal. The majority of these kids would never have survived. They would've run into the Bad Boy Pistons D and retired right there on the spot.

[@Antawanknight780]

@@alfasiger4178lebron had a tougher road than Jordan going to the finals and getting beat cause he had to face the warriors and spurs and the Celtics

[@eyesacthehoodrat]

He’s showing you facts the whole time 🤣

[@niswonger45]

Stop acting like the bubble was a real championship. That crap needs a an asterisk next to it!

[@alfasiger4178]

You're talking to fools who believe the In-Season tournament is a legitimate ring.

[@kedrprao]

In COVID times, literally EVERY sport organised their tournaments without audience or restricted % of audiences in stadium. For example, Bayern Munich won UEFA Champions League behind closed doors without fans in stadium. I am yet to meet a Soccer fan who says Bayern Munich's 2020 UCL win was fake or it should have a asterisk. No one says Tokyo Olympics medal winners are frauds because stadiums were only 25% filled. Same goes for literally every other sport. Champions from literally all the sports in the world won titles without the fans in COVID era and in somewhat weird circumstances but no one says they are fake champs. All those sports champions are considered legit excpet the NBA championship for Lakers. Why?? Why does ONLY the NBA fans from all the sports world say that their rightful champion isn't real champ; there should be asterisk and Bubble championship shouldn't count? Only one reason. King LeBron James. Most of the NBA fanbase is so pathetic that yall will hate the man and disregard his champions than actually accept his greatness.

[@CurtisT1019]

AD actually was the real MVP in the bubble.

[@ImNelzy]

@@kedrpraopeople can accept his greatness it’s the antics he does. Him calling himself king cause that ain’t come for nowhere. It’s the fact he constantly has to tell other he’s great in great at this and that. And more recently saying how he’s the goat. It’s his passive aggressive nature with teammates, media, coaches. He literally has so many antics it’s nuts. People can accept his greatness they’re just tired of the media trying to constantly push this narrative. People aren’t stupid man, all the information you need is researchable, I never got to watch Jordan play. Did my own research and I don’t think anyone can touch Jordan…just based off actual facts. Things that are documented and not hypotheticals and not anything involving my feelings towards the player or anything. Lebron should never have been compared to Jordan to begin with. Magic Johnson and Larry bird would have been better. Lebron is a great player but there’s A LOT of weakness to his game, 21 years and he hasn’t improved a single one of them. He has the most excuses as to why he can’t get it done, the most help yet doesn’t finish the job. Theres only 1 common thing in all of these situations every team he goes. That’s himself. As great as he is, he isn’t great enough for it to really translate to winning. And he isn’t a great team leader. That’s not being hateful it’s just what’s there, it’s what you can quite literally see and watch yourself. If you ever pay attention. On top of that a lot of Lebron fans say crazy disrespectful things or just people in lebron’s camp. That’s another reason for why so much push back from people today. It has nothing to do with being hateful, or not acknowledging he’s great. Plenty of players who’d ton even have Lebron in their top 3 acknowledge how great he is. Yet they don’t have him in their top 3. There’s a different between actually being hateful and just being critical. The bubble is a real championship, BUT it isn’t the “hardest” championship. Maybe mentally it was hard for players with the circumstances. BUT in terms of the physicals it was maybe one of the easiest. No homecourt advantage, no fans, no travel, 24/7 food service from personal chefs. Like come on….

[@timothyclark1417]

Thank you!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@deutzfahrmadman]

He called MJ thanos, literally because of all the evidence he supplied! He wasn’t hating on LB, he was just being compared to a player who is clearly above him…

[@mikeypdrum854]

How can you claim the dude is meat riding MJ when he clearly is stating facts after facts from countless hours of research that no one else is doing. Cmon dawg

[@phenomfacemob1011]

This guy said bron was 4-8 in the finals.. you can't take this guy serious

[@AFR0MAMBA]

@@phenomfacemob1011 haha dude gave Lebron 2 extra Finals loses

[@inefekt]

"countless hours of research that no one else is doing" Look, I like the video he's watching but the dude who made it VERY clearly plagiarised the 100s of comments I have made on YT about this debate. Literally nobody else was making the points I was making for years here, bro even stole my numbers on total VORP vs VORP per game. If you could go through someone's YT comment history you'll see all the evidence right in front of you. Dude who made the OG video very clearly read my comments and decided to make a whole ass video out of the facts I was spewing. Good on him though, but don't pretend he's doing his own research......he's just parroting _my_ research.

[@KoufalKoufax]

@@inefekt dfq are you yapping about?

[@inefekt]

@@KoufalKoufax bro stole my comments...what was so hard to understand about that?

[@malcolmhodnett8874]

Saying LeBron is still playing at the same level is raw delusion

[@garyco766]

Original video is from a few years ago, when LeBron was closer to his prime still.

[@frankhtlllful]

Maybe not level but his stats are consistent. He definitely not winning like before.

[@KG-kq9tk]

@frankhtlllful. When you fig inti them, they are not actually holding up. Go watch some Angry Old Hoops Fan

[@markmeloni2388]

@@frankhtlllful Because he plays for his stats. He is resting games, resting on the field too.

[@ivanhorvat8403]

This has to be the dumbest debate I've ever seen. How is it even a debate? Lebron doesn't even come close to Jordan.

[@mpound97]

The NBA needed someone to "lead" the league after Mike. They chose the wrong mofo...

[@garyco766]

@@mpound97 How was Kobe the wrong mofo?

[@brightestfuture]

Leflop was ruining the game with his flopping as he got older. Everyone started doing it. I stopped watching. Thank god for the leflop rule. Flopping has toned down now.

[@brandieholloman4871]

Lebron not even close to Kobe Bryant

[@lfcgero35]

Jordan played against the best players in nba history. Larry bird Magic johnson Dr j Hakeem Sampson Isiah Kareem Worthy Drexler Dominique Barkley Ewing Mchale Parish Moses malone King Kemp Payton Moncrief Chambers Just to name a few.

[@Acloud1]

There is 2x the amount of players currently in the nba that are better than 90% if that list be honest

[@lfcgero35]

@@Acloud1 really without magic and larry there would be no nba simple as. That means probaly no shaq kobe curry lebron or any other greats to come after. I think you need to do a bit of research on some of these players before you disrespect them. There is a reason the 80s was called the golden age of the nba and the same reason there is so many hall of famers from the 80s too. Why do you think jordan didnt win his first championship until 1991 seven years after his rookie season. It was because of all the greats he came up against which he eventually beat all of them except bird. So when they all retired jordan dominated and became the 🐐 and still is the billy 🐐.

[@lfcgero35]

@@Acloud1 by the way i can name way more than that was just a sample size.

[@lfcgero35]

@@Acloud1 name a few playing now that match these guys. Remember both magic and larry are no 1 and 2 when it comes to the highest win percentage in nba history. Someone is sleeping on the two most important players in nba history.

[@40EastTrill]

​@@Acloud1You need to either tell a better lie than that or do your research on the people that you know nothing about. I'm pretty sure that people that have seen BOTH Jordan and James play have a better idea of who's better.

[@ciarrajohnson3849]

I’m an 80s baby and we, the adults, trade Lebron to the kids. Take him & exit the back door👊🏿 #FOH #6-N O

[@jakedavis6835]

Facts

[@mpound97]

Thing is this clown is almost 40 years old STILL acting like this?

[@jenniferdaniels2413]

Trade him? Shit, I'd GIVE LeBronze away.

[@ciarrajohnson3849]

@@jenniferdaniels2413 That’s what I meant. He doesn’t need to be replaced🤣😂🤣😂

[@ciarrajohnson3849]

Lakers lost again. DEBATE OVER NOW…❓❓❓

[@tee1up785]

42 mins long! Are you kidding me! This video should be 4 mins long. Jordan ALL day! He didn’t have to join a super team to win championships. The end.

[@andrewvolf2916]

If you are the GOAT, shouldn't you lead your team to victory? The basis of a GOAT argument cannot, ever be based around how many times you have been runner up. The GOAT wins and pretenders come 2nd

[@DanYeLL2003]

Jordan was only knocked out of the playoffs in the 1st round 3 times, his first 3 years. Considering he was out most of his 2nd year because of a sprained ankle he still insisted on playing in the playoffs and averaged 38 points, but the Celtics had one of the greatest teams ever so it wasn’t enough. Then he had to try to beat the pistons for a few years while they beat the shit out of him most the time. After those loses he never lost again. Also there is a great video out there that compares the quality of players Jordan had to go up against compared to Lebrons. If I can find it ill come back and add it to this comment.

[@BaDHabitS4]

I believe it was a broken leg. with a sprained ankle he would be out for 1--2 weeks back then😀

[@--ArcAngel--]

He had a broken foot and insisted on returning way before his doctors or the team wanted him to.

[@mpound97]

​@@--ArcAngel--He added a "Love of the Game" clause in his contract so he can play anytime and anywhere he wants. If you knew about some of the pickup games he played in the summer, you'd have no hesitation in calling him the goat. Check out Bill Bellamy telling the story about Jordan in the real "bubble" when MJ was filming "Space Jam". And there's way more stories about Jordan playing back at UNC in the summer with Worthy and other alumni. I guess since the queen didn't go to college, he can't experience that camaraderie.

[@MVNYO]

@@BaDHabitS4 broken bone in his foot, not his leg

[@CurtisT1019]

Jordan was and still is the GOAT.

[@CurtisT1019]

Jordan played better competition than LeBron while facing tougher defense.

[@kingjruck6507]

Facts.i agree 👍🏾

[@sonnynguyen9103]

There isn't a Goat in any sport who has more final losses than wins.

[@gabrielw7773]

He compared him to Thanos because of the lack of weaknesses.

[@johnchapman8131]

Dude wearing Jordans gear while questioning who the GOAT is? LMFAO

[@davidyoungsr753]

Young fella, MJ never lost when he was the higher seed. 3 Peat, retire, come back and 3 peat again. No dynasty for La Steroid

[@parnellstephenson8875]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@miz3577]

Your embracing losing! Doesn’t matter if he went to the Finals 15x’s. He lost!! He got swept 2x’s in the Finals!! 🧢

[@kanej33]

MJ did it with the team that drafted him he did not go chasing rings with super teams

[@sesimie]

Oldhead here. You gottah uninstall your programming. Go watch some 80's and 90's games and actually watch it for yourself. Then make your educated statements. Older Basketball watchers and fans actually saw games. Have a good one.

[@whenisdinner2137]

Jordan and Lebron missed each other by 1 year... lets not act like MJ played with the Dinosaurs...

[@Acloud1]

Ngl this comment made me laugh😂😂😂😂😂

[@MakaveliCVW]

I mean jordan played at the same time as iverson and kobe why he was on the bulls winning championships and mvp and jordan played on the wizards as a 40yr old with one leg and his body giving out averaging over 20 a game

[@user-vp3nh5qs9s]

​@@Acloud1 Lebron couldn't hold Kobe jockstrap Kobe went to three straight NBA finals without a top 75 player or a hall of famer and won two championships with only one all star.

[@user-vp3nh5qs9s]

​@@Acloud1 Every since basketball started it always has been about winning championships first and then your accomplishments and then your eye test. Jordan 1A kobe1B.

[@XxGigaBradxX]

@@user-vp3nh5qs9sfacts…look at who really led the redeem team in the Olympics too.

[@randyho8315]

You are a true basketball fan. I even respect you more for acknowledging other’s greatness

[@phenomfacemob1011]

who a true fan?

[@edwardbutler]

Dude in professional sports it’s about the W no matter what

[@nathanmckenzie904]

I'm going to say sports period. If I step on the court or field I want to win

[@tastein000]

You can have your favorite player, LeBron, while respecting MJ as the GOAT. Numbers don't lie!

[@nathanmckenzie904]

Duncan is by far my favorite player! MJ is the GOAT, and its not close

[@eyesacthehoodrat]

Look at the logo on your shirt, that’s the goat

[@Clever01010]

😦 what? Jordan played against the greatest players of all time. The list of all time greats back in his day dominated today's players. Bird, Shaq, Coby, Duncan, Iverson, McGrady, Miller and the list goes on and on and on. Endless!

[@Clever01010]

Ewing, Barkley, Olajuwon, Hill, Thomas, Webb, Kidd, Hardaway, Webber, Porter, Allen, Ming, Nash, Garnett, Kemp, Payton, Stockton, Malone, Robinson. 😳 Should I keep going?😄

[@avoidhuncho5331]

He’s acting like he doesn’t see these comments because what he said sounded so stupid like “did Jordan play tough competition like lebron bro is crazy” 😂

[@Clever01010]

Back then there were so many greats you never saw the same players in an All-star game. today!🙄 year after year same players! 😉 Back then you had to earn it!

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

The question is, has James player anyone as good as Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Shaq, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley. Tmac, Duncan and Robison, Dominique Wilkins, Pat Ewing....etc And on a side note. Im happy you found your pops lol. And he's the smartest man ever.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

Curry for sure, Durant, Giannis and that's about it

[@Jerome-n6u]

KD, Steph, Giannis, Derrick Rose, Kobe, Jokic, Harden, Duncan, Dirk, Pierce, Howard, Tatum, Kawhi.. The list goes on. Lebron has faced WAY MORE competition and its not even close.

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

@Jerome-n6u did I forget to mention ,Worthy , Kareem, Hakeem, Payton, Kemp...that list could go on too...oh and Kobe, shouldn't have left him out. Let's not forget Jordan's Bulls 3peat led twice. Curry's Warriors couldn't do that once. Jordan's teams had the target on their backs and they never faltered when they reached the top. Against more 60 win teams. Also Jordan's finals opponents have a slightly higher than LeBron's finals opponents. Seeing as Bron did face the 73 win Warriors. That one season brought up his finals opponents win % by quite a bit

[@Jerome-n6u]

@@coachmikesfilmroom3111 If you're going to put in older players like Worthy and Kareem then I can do that too. Shaq, Allen Iverson, Tracy Mcgrady, Vince Carter, Stephon Marbury, Jason Kidd, Reggie Miller, Alonzo Mourning etc. Kobe was like 18 when he played MJ in 97 so that doesn't even count. And he got whooped when Kobe developed. The competition when Lebron played is way better than when Jordan played. The top 3 significant players at the SG when Jordan played from 84-97 were Clyde Drexler, Gervin, and Reggie Miller. The top 3 significant players at SF from 04 to now are KD, Kawhi, and Paul Pierce/Carmelo. It's no contest that Lebron had more competition for his position. And I wasn't even factoring in the PF's like Giannis, Duncan, Dirk, AD, and Kevin Love. Even look at Team USA. The competition has 52 NBA players while the dream team faced 9. And even on that stacked team, Lebron is the first option. Jordan only had to score and defend mediocre players at his position. Everything else he offloaded to Scottie Pippen.

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

@Jerome-n6u ill give you Kareem, but Worthy? He was only a couple years ahead of Jordan. He'll they played together at UNC

[@darwinsevolution8027]

lebron fans are funny they dont want you to bring up stats and they dont want you to bring up chapionships and when you do they call you biased lmao

[@sulainsantiago3636]

they are a bunch of clowns lol even with facts ...they need to be educated

[@mpound97]

You're a "hater"...😂😂😂. His sheep are by far some of the lowest level thinkers I've ever "witnessed", pun intended...

[@pe3094]

They also bring up how many Allstars lebron has, while at the same time saying it doesn't matter how many all stars are on teams when saying jordan did it with less.

[@dexsanders9124]

Literally MJ won 6 🏆 in 13 years with the bulls Lebron 4 🏆 in 20 years😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ciarrajohnson3849]

28:57, 31:31 If LEFLOP tried MJs blind freethrow, he would put a ref’s eye out and make cheerleaders cry😂🤣🤣🤣

[@lorenzsabbaer7725]

leflop tried the blind freethrow! he airballed it!

[@ciarrajohnson3849]

@@lorenzsabbaer7725 Of course….😂🤣😂

[@mpound97]

​@@lorenzsabbaer7725The queen can't make free throws with his eyes wide open. To even attempt it with his eyes shut is just part of his narcissistic illusion of himself.

[@Nsxlovers]

Who’s number 23 and who wants to be like Mike 🐐 72-10 win the title 6-0 championship

[@GramPaSmokes5]

Bro I get you don't like him "hating" on LeBron but you gotta understand all the media today is hating on Jordan to make LeBron seem like the goat.

[@leedurham3144]

Bro got on a Jordan jacket. 😂

[@szaret1]

There were no easy twos in the game back then. You had 8 people with 2 centers in the paint at all times. In todays game MJ is gonna take those easy 2's but hes also gonna hit that jumper. Imagine lebron with a 50% jumper

[@fitzroy6970]

Lebron with a 50% jumper?🤔nope cnt imagine it,I mean lebron actually scoring a jumper 50% of the time…..that’s impossible

[@houseontherock8345]

I mean look at what SGA is doing in todays league. I love that dude, but MJ would feast!

[@WhoDatDere83]

Great reaction. You are the first Lebron fan I have seen that has given credit where it is due. Most seem to get so offended.

[@Acloud1]

Yesssir

[@oronasundial]

​@@Acloud1hit with the facts that's why all he could do was make faces lol.

[@jamespuso1627]

The conversation about the competition is interesting but it's one of those things where when you get down to it you kinda see why people say comparing eras is kind of messy because the game was played very differently and the physical attributes, skills and strategies were completely different. Basically the 90s and 00s were a strength based game and the 10s, 20s and basically the entire rest of NBA history have been more speed based. Just look at a picture of David Robinson next to Wemby and that'll illustrate the differences. So if you put Steph Curry in the 90s would they be very good at chasing him around the 3 point line? No. But on the flip side if you put Shaq in his prime in the game today would anyone today be strong enough to keep him away from the basket? Also no. So the competition is hard to compare.

[@clay1108]

He was "bounced out" by one of the beat teams in NBA history that went ahead to win the chip - Boston Celtics, and by one of the dirtiest teams ever built that also went to win multi NBA championship - Detroit "Bad boy" Pistons

[@miz3577]

LBJ going to the Finals with multiple teams is bc every season he trades half of them away. He’s traded the most players ever in history and played with the most top 75 players. He’s a goat for sure! A Billy goat 🐐 😂

[@pursuingliberty1303]

This debate only exists because the lebron fans are ignorant and suffer from cognitive dissonance. Jordan wasn't my favourite player, but I knew he was the best, and I know that lebron isn't even a close second. To answer your question about the warriors of today playing the bulls of old it could never be compared because the only reason todays players are at the standard they are is because of the players and teams of old and none more than his airness and the G.O.A.T Michael Jordan. Remember the first quote about saying you're the best and being told you're the best? Nobody says LeBron is the best more than LeBron does. He'd have got chewed up in the 90's without a doubt and not have lasted as long as he has in the bubble wrapped league that he plays in today.

[@kanej33]

Actually Jordan was faster and could jump higher it is true that he's bigger and probably stronger but everyone says MJ was the strongest guard they've ever played against and he certainly didn't avoid contact like LeBron

[@eovniel]

"He spitting facts but I feel like he being biased" had me dead

[@mikemorton7149]

😂but my Lebron fan has on Jordan apparel

[@rawbellco49]

Yes MJ played the same type of competition, the difference is the 3 ball. Today's competition doesn't focus on defensive mindset, and now you have more possessions.

[@SVZ11]

The reason lebron made it to all of those finals is because he was in the east and the east was super weak compared to the west. It was no competition in the east so it was easy to get to the finals. When Jordan played in the east it was the hardest conference in a time when they actually played defense and fouled.

[@mrall-purpose694]

Appreciate the open mindedness.. it’s ok for Lebron to be your favorite player and MJ be the Goat. That’s ok!! Not sure why other younger fans can’t just say that. Lebron can be your fav player and MJ the goat. We’re all in the NBA family as fans.. so just appreciate MJ. That’s like ppl debating if the Mona Lisa painting is top tier lol.. the debate makes no sense lol. If anyone is closer to MJ that distance is like earth to the moon, so it’s pointless to compare who’s the goat other than MJ. And if your even looking in this era u still have Kobe or curry or even KD who or on Lebron level if not better. That’s a better debate for younger guys if anything. Seems like ya choose Lebron by default when their are many players better then him truthfully

[@Acloud1]

W comment

[@BaDHabitS4]

Don't make the same mistake that other fans do. your favorite player isn't most of the time the best. In fact i bet that the majority of the fans in the 90's hated MJ but recognized that he was the GOAT

[@Sephiroth32vergil]

I think the question you were trying to say was if Jordan played against today's league where the average player base is higher skilled would he have been just as successful. It's a valid question... But I would argue he would have been more successful. With today's league having better shooters and the three-point being much more prominent that means players are more spread out which makes it easier for Jordan to get within his most comfortable range of shooting and makes drives easier. That would also make his teammates more dependable as shooters and would make Jordan an even greater passing threat with the amount of pressure he puts on the defence. So I actually think Jordan's stats would be insane if he played in today's era. Another valid question you posed is would a team like the Warriors be even more dominant if they played in Jordan's era. I would argue no. I don't think they beat the Bulls in the 90s. Besides Curry, i dont think anyone could get going especially during the Jordan, Rodman and Pippen era. Durant would be guarded by Pippen who is even more physically imposing and is a great defender, Durant would still perform well but not up to his standard. Klay is getting shut down by Jordan. That leaves Steph as their only real mismatch offensively. There is nothing the warriors can do about stopping the bulls on the other end no matter which era. Although LeBron making the finals 12 times is insane, and deserves its respect. The reason why winning and making the finals aren't the same is because making the finals means you are better than half the league, winning the finals means you're the best team in the league. If Lebron's teams faced the eventually champions in the first round then he too would have been first rounded. That's why the difference is huge. LeBron's legacy is vast and deserves all the respect... I don't like the guy but 20 years easily makes you earn the title of King. And he has performed magic time and time again. He's just not the greatest and there's nothing wrong with that.

[@Acloud1]

Aye this was a W take I like the way you think !! Hit that sub button

[@lennybeason1110]

MJ is the GOAT because it’s factual!

[@timothyclark1417]

Stop that narrative that LeBron carried these teams to finals bro, he had to go join super teams to get there in every championship he's won & D-Wade willingly took a backseat to LeBron in order for him to get the limelight and anyone counting that BS title in the bubble is smoking crack!! Kyrie was the main reason for the Cleveland championship stop the cap!! LeBron has been chasing titles all over the country, Jordan built his throne (GOAT) in one place, Chicago!!! As the video stated in the end, this debate is not really even a debate!!

[@bdbd1390]

It matters when he's talking about how poor of a shooter James is 😂😂

[@jrag9435]

Not only did he face comparable, perhaps better, competition… Barkley, Kemp, Garnett, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Isiah, Stockton, Malone, Nash, etc…, he also played against different monsters at center. How well do you think Lebron would fair under or at the basket with Hakeem, Shaq, Mutumbo, Ewing, David Robison, etc… .

[@mannwalehunter8556]

Remember this...just because you do something for a long time, doesn't mean you're the best at it. You're emotional dude. Longevity doesn't mean you're that dude. The struggle is part of the legacy. MJ struggled with his team, never switched up. Lebron left first chance he got.

[@davilsonpinhel4168]

Mj only lost in the 1st round twice (1st & 2nd) seasons while lebrom didn't even make the playoffs in his first 2 seasons.😅😅😅😅

[@hectorbatang3023]

it's a bit biased but he's stating facts to back up his bias.

[@mpound97]

No bias. Maybe a little jab towards the queen but no bias. Learn the difference.

[@mpound97]

No bias. Maybe a little jab towards the queen but no bias. Learn the difference.

[@Ari19904]

Only part you could call biased is the “eye test” portion since that’s inherently subjective. Everything else in the video is objective fact

[@kanej33]

You should check out the video where they use stats to find out the best basketball seasons on record

[@NotUrBlkCrschnAntiGayMissile]

Your question was about taking teams and talent from this era and putting them against the teams and talent of that era, which I think is a valid question worthy of consideration. My question would be, since we’re talking about comparing them as players, if you took LeBron & put him in that league or took MJ and put him in this league what would happen. Keep in mind, they’re generally not letting guys LeBron’s size run point unless you’re Magic Johnson or shoot the 3, which isn’t even a big part of that game. I think he probably winds up a better Scottie Pippen or a lesser Karl Malone. It could be argued with no handchecking and rules that aid offense Jordan would torch this league. He’s not going through the physical battles so his career lasts longer. He shoots the 3 more often and ofc better cuz he’s getting a lot more reps. I mean… 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@nathanmckenzie904]

No handshaking, no touching a player, no big men and much more space dude.. Jordan would be something out of this world wven more than he already was

[@NotUrBlkCrschnAntiGayMissile]

@@nathanmckenzie904 I gotta agree. It would be disgusting.

[@jeremydenney9537]

The only thing lebron is consistent with is the hairline going farther and farther back. Lmao

[@Acloud1]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@joshm6854]

Say what you said slowly. "Hes stating facts. But they are kinda biased." If you think facts are biased then youre letting emotions make your decisions.

[@TheGregorye83]

Yes, however the game was entirely different. No traveling allowed, hand/ forearm checking. Bulls shut the warriors down playing 90’s basketball, warriors have a very small chance playing 2020 basketball

[@mpound97]

Even playing in this era, if the Warriors aren't making AT LEAST 50% of those 3's, they're going to lose. That's their only "advantage" over Chicago.

[@pointsur67]

(I see you have to stop the video to talk when it does not go in Lebron's favor)... - "HAS MICHAEL JORDAN PLAYED PLAYERS AS GOOD AS PLAYERS TODAY?" - ARE YOU SERIOUS??? MJ was playing in the "Golden Era" of modern basketball. He played against more HoF'ers than Lebron, by far. Starting with Magic and Bird, to MALONE and Stockton. Malone was the SAME height as LBJ, but was bigger and much stronger. Charles Barkley was the SECOND BEST player then. He would destroy today's players. Like the video said, GOING TO THE FINALS is not the same as WINNING the finals. Twelve times and only won FOUR??? As for longevity, Lebron does not get beaten up like MJ did. Not even close. That is one of the main reasons why he is still playing. Also remember, Jordan did all of this in only 13 years!

[@GramPaSmokes5]

The Einstein joke was pretty fire😂

[@anthonymoody6711]

Bruh!!! I bout had an actual heart attack when Albert Einstein showed up and you yelled out, "DAD??!!!!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Acloud1]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TwistedHumorComics]

Lebron joined teams he thought had championship potential, and he gets trades he wants. MJ joined one of the worst teams of the league and turned them into a dynasty.

[@user-rz2gp2hm9z]

Jordan 1988 season is the greatest season in nba history 💯 his 1989 season is #2

[@32poppasavage28]

How you gon mention Jordan losing in the first round(which was in the beginning of his career) and not mention Lebron NOT EVEN MAKING THE PLAYOFFS in first 2 years? Or mention Lebron only averaging 17 points IN THE FINALS vs Dallas where he was playing on on a SUPER TEAM.

[@oldmanballer5088]

How can Lebron be the GOAT when he’s not even the best SF ever?

[@johnanthony3685]

The narrator isn’t hating, you’re just sour about the facts. Just admit the facts bro, Jordan is way better. If I need one game to win I’m picking Jordan over Lebrick. 😂

[@jayt-mac2074]

😂😂😂😂 Dude's reaction to Thanos got me in tears!

[@Acloud1]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@callsign.ghost.reaper]

LeBron picked super teams. Jordan built a franchise.

[@terellpatterson8351]

Jordan played on the least talented team in the NBA in the 80s.They were the worst team in the NBA that's why they drafted Jordan. The Bulls were so terrible they called them "the cocaine traveling all stars. And that's because they all did cocaine, not Jordan though. They played to just collect a check so they would buy cocaine. Jordan walked in on them at a hotel. LeBron played with Hall of Fame players and All Stars and future Hall of Famers to win a championship. LeBron left his team to join a super team to get championships.LeBron would've never have won two of his titles if Ray Allen doesn't hit that three pointer in the corner.If Ray would've missed that shot at the buzzer games over and the series literally is over because theirs know more games to be played. But he made it and they then played game 7 and won. Jordan's first three championships had only one All-star and Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen that's it. And he wasn't always that good,he was really skinny wasn't a good jump shooter yet and struggled to shoot free-throws. Pippen and Jordan started lefting weights for the 1990-1991 season to get pass the Pistons. It worked.And yes Jordan played against a lot of Hall of Famers. He destroyed a lot of Hall of Famers chances at winning a championship..

[@koolkokujin7015]

Jordan did all this in an era where they actually played better "D". In Lebron's era, the rules favor the offense and not defense.

[@hexflash.]

LeBron has 20 years of technological, development, nutrition, and game knowledge advantage than Jordan and still couldn't get close to Mj

[@TheDrawing13]

Most of Jordan's opponents are now hall of famers, so yeah his level of competition was as good as Bron's. You could even argue that it was tougher since they were highly skilled and much more physical.

[@christophercorders6526]

Dude is not glazing or dik ridn. He telling the 200% truth blood!!!

[@robday2859]

Nice reaction young fella. Re: did Michael play players as good as Bron? I feel that is a moot point. Michael was head and shoulders above the NBA 'standard' when he played, Bron is just head above the standard in his prime and level pegging now he is aged. Also different style of game now, I would argue Defense was better in MJ's era but offense is better in Bron's era.

[@fitzroy6970]

Offense cnt be better if there’s n defense being played so no,offense isn’t better in this era it’s just easier to score in this era

[@robday2859]

@@fitzroy6970 no cap. I should have said that players are probably better shooters nowadays, I don't think anyone can disagree with that. Yes, that doesn't make offense better, it just shows that with the decline in defence you are going to get more stat padding (more shots, more assists, more rebounds - it's a natural side effect).

[@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester]

MJ played some of the all time greats Id say harder competition

[@tinsu629]

Jordan is not just a great player but a great leader. If I was playing, I wanted that kind of leader to guide me and push me to do better because, in the end, it's all about winning.

[@WinfordStraub]

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[@XxGigaBradxX]

You asked about competition in their respective eras. It’s not comparable because of rule changes. Especially hand checking and how a normal foul in Jordan’s era is probably a flagrant 1 or 2 now. You can’t spread the floor in Jordan’s era with those differences. Alternatively, the same teams from his era wouldn’t have the skill sets needed for the modern era. But Jordan’s game would be just as good or better because he was going off when he got hand checked and tackled going to the rim. Imagine that advantage with his skills, athleticism, zero flopping, no complaining, and fundamentals? They both would have to adapt to each era respectively, but I highly doubt LeBron would be better in the physical era. Centers could camp in the paint and dare you to even try it. Jordan on the other hand would have a field day.

[@azwildcats7842]

Michael Jordan did what LeBron still hasn’t done in half the time…

[@fitzroy6970]

Jordan best yr was every year,lebron best yr will be when he retires

[@jorjiosam]

He can't be hating when it's facts my boy 💯 Jordan da goat

[@Iroh10800]

The problem is lebron actualy never carried his teams. He always had at least one all star or hall of famer sometimes 2 even. Jokic had worse players By his side than lebron having been one of the first to win a chip as the only all star on his team. Yet people dont say jokic hard carried his team bc he makes everyone around him so much better.

[@MrOfficialwitdaWhistle]

Jordan accomplished all of this in the most physical era with hand checking, no defensive 3 seconds and MORE DOMINANT BIG MEN!! As far as his competition just look at the NBA 75 team and see how many players are from Jordan's era 💯🗣🎯

[@MrBurt3000]

Jordan played better competition in a defensive physical era.

[@georgemccormick4786]

Ive watched the NBA for 47 years. The best players Ive seen were in the era of 1985 - 1995. No gobbledygook. But, admittedly, its my eye test and basic stats. So, its just my opinion. My top five would be: Jordan Bird Kobe Magic Duncan

[@Snaaaakey]

I've watched them both. Jordan is the goat by far. BY FAR

[@nathanmckenzie904]

FAAARRRR!

[@kd-lmn]

Best championship years for accomplishments were 98’ for MJs second threepeat as well as cementing his undefeated finals run. It was 22’ for bron when he defeated the juggernaut warriors. But theyre most dominant teams were the 96’ bulls and the 06’ heat

[@CumpasFilms]

MJ played in an era of not only amazing players, but in an era where the rules made scoring harder, driving lanes were not as wide open and nba players weren't coddled. you could beat up someone like MJ.

[@Emperor-Wild-Man]

Applying Walter Payton's quote, Lebron must be only "good" and not really great, when he broke Kareem's scoring record last Feb, 2023, and he self proclaimed as being the greatest.

[@tiredoffools8929]

I’m glad you are watching MJ videos and seeing with your own eyes why he’s the GOAT. No shame in having your favorite player be someone else. Yes. MJ played great competition and with difficult rules. Keep digging through MJs career and you will be amazed at how underrated MJ actually is.

[@catherinechang99]

💯💯

[@JazzYachtrocker]

Jordan is the goat youngster. Sorry. Lebron can’t hold Jordan’s jockstrap my guy lol Also, the fact that you take a team from the future to play Michael Jordan‘s bulls and you don’t choose a lebron team should tell you who’s better.

[@BasedHawaiian]

Jordan was the competion LeBron is playing today. However, yes - Penny, Shaq, Euwing, Malone, Dikembe, Bird, etc.

[@tankeater]

5:35 the fact tou think LeBRONZ went to the finals 12 times, tells me all I need to know about your BBall knowledge. You have to inflate your favorite players stats just to make it sound better in your own delusional thought process.