Jordan Vs. Lebron

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[@mackdat3716]

No one has ever been murdered over a pair of Lebrons 😂

[@ainsleyedwards9262]

100% facts

[@domanijames2127]

True

[@beau.perez10]

Shoes has absolutely nothing to do with whos the goat

[@beau.perez10]

Ur dumb

[@Grippers3729]

@@beau.perez10 kinda does in this debate cause the guy in the vid said he defines greatness as influence and Jordans have had a huge influence

[@CH-vr2dl]

jordan being famous worldwide without the internet is a big flex

[@jdawg9137]

Jordan couldn't even leave his hotel room without hundreds of people standing outside to greet him. Enough said

[@kinggreenzzzgreen8473]

Underrated comment

[@unkillabledemonking]

Jordan the true GOAT he is everywhere in magazines, newspaper, billboards, tv shows, radio, tabloids etc. And he is making noises not only in the nba but in the entire world with his immense popularity. His influence and approach of the game is stand alone made him the GOAT of basketball.

[@mathewerenberger7275]

They still had TVs though they didn't live in fucking caves before the internet lmao

[@danielmartinez4106]

@@jdawg9137And CR7 is way more popular than Messi that still never made him better

[@Hydro_9293]

You can tell he enjoyed this way more than crushing liberals

[@DocWolph]

Who would not rather shot the breeze than shoveling sh*t?

[@johnnystankiewicz295]

i dream of a word where all of that confederate vs liberal, alpha male vs woke and shit like that does not exist. Just people talking about normal, fun stuff like this.

[@venatorgd5099]

​@@johnnystankiewicz295everyday is just a war against the opposite pole it seems. Meanwhile there's people like me (and you as it seems) that just stand in the middle of the crossed fire, getting shot from both sides just because we see the good and bad of both places and just want a rational end of it

[@invizz_geo-.-]

@@johnnystankiewicz295Calling conservatives confederates is absolutely crazy. Abraham Lincoln was the figurehead of the Union and a Republican. Democrats were the ones who wanted to keep their slaves because it was their livelihood.

[@neverthoughtofmynamelol32]

​@@johnnystankiewicz295 word

[@richassani]

Did this guy really just say Lebron has had MORE INFLUENCE THAN MR MICHEAL “AIR” JORDAN???????????????????????????????????????

[@jamesmacdougall2694]

Seriously. You know how many people are going to be wearing Lebron’s shoes after he retires? Zero.

[@Freedomlives33]

Lmao 😂 CORRECT ......MJ is the fkn GOAT 👍🏾 ​@@jamesmacdougall2694

[@Isaac_Oldton77]

​@@jamesmacdougall2694what LeBron got shoes? 😂 Dint know

[@PdiddySmurf]

We cook stuff weekly on a george foreman, doesn't mean he's a better boxer than muhamad Ali. Ps I don't watch basketball, couldn't give a toss really, just thought I'd throw this out there aha

[@oscaralegre3683]

for young people yes LeBron has more influence. Jordan is the influence of boomers.

[@colincampbell3837]

Honestly, it's awesome to see two guys having a peaceful debate while smiling and having fun. Edit: this is for all the bronsexuals out there MJ Vs Lebron Finals Comp Truth* 2014 Spurs Record: 62-20, Finished 1st in NBA Southwest Division Coach: Gregg Popovich (62-20) Executive: R.C. Buford PTS/G: 105.4 (6th of 30) Opp PTS/G: 97.6 (6th of 30) SRS: 8.00 (1st of 30) Pace: 95.0 (10th of 30) Off Rtg: 110.5 (7th of 30) Def Rtg: 102.4 (3rd of 30) Net Rtg: +8.1 (1st of 30) Expected W-L: 61-21 (1st of 30) 1996 Sonics Record 64-18, Finished 1st in NBA Pacific Division Coach: George Karl (64-18) Executive: Wally Walker PTS/G: 104.5 (2nd of 29) Opp PTS/G: 96.7 (8th of 29) SRS: 7.40 (2nd of 29) Pace: 93.8 (3rd of 29) Off Rtg: 110.3 (8th of 29) Def Rtg: 102.1 (2nd of 29) Net Rtg: +8.2 (2nd of 29) Better net rating than Spurs Lebron Cramp in 5 Cleveland return Jordan W in 6 2018 Warriors PTS/G: 113.5 (1st of 30) Opp PTS/G: 107.5 (18th of 30) SRS: 5.79 (3rd of 30) Pace: 99.6 (5th of 30) Off Rtg: 113.6 (3rd of 30) Def Rtg: 107.6 (11th of 30) Net Rtg: +6.0 (3rd of 30) 1993 Suns 62-20, Finished 1st in NBA Pacific Division Coach: Paul Westphal (62-20) PTS/G: 113.4 (1st of 27) Opp PTS/G: 106.7 (18th of 27) SRS: 6.27 (3rd of 27) Pace: 99.8 (4th of 27) Off Rtg: 113.3 (1st of 27) Def Rtg: 106.7 (9th of 27) Net Rtg: +6.7 (4th of 27) Pace in 2018 97.3ppg Pace in 1993 96.8ppg Lebron in 4 MJ W in 6 averaging 41ppg Suns had higher net rating 2011 Mavericks 57-25, Finished 2nd in NBA Southwest Division Coach: Rick Carlisle (57-25) Executive: Donn Nelson PTS/G: 100.2 (11th of 30) Opp PTS/G: 96.0 (10th of 30) SRS: 4.41 (8th of 30) Pace: 91.3 (17th of 30) Off Rtg: 109.7 (8th of 30) Def Rtg: 105.0 (8th of 30) Net Rtg: +4.6 (8th of 30) 1991 Lakers 58-24, Finished 2nd in NBA Pacific Division Coach: Mike Dunleavy (58-24) Executive: Jerry West PTS/G: 106.3 (13th of 27) Opp PTS/G: 99.6 (2nd of 27) SRS: 6.73 (3rd of 27) Pace: 94.1 (25th of 27) Off Rtg: 112.1 (5th of 27) Def Rtg: 105.0 (5th of 27) Net Rtg: +7.1 (3rd of 27) Pace in 2011 92.1ppg Pace in 91 97.8ppg Lebron L in 6 - outplayed by Jason Terry MJ W in 5 avaraging 32 11 and 6 2007 spurs 58-24, Finished 2nd in NBA Southwest Division Coach: Gregg Popovich (58-24) Executive: R.C. Buford PTS/G: 98.5 (14th of 30) Opp PTS/G: 90.1 (1st of 30) SRS: 8.35 (1st of 30) Pace: 89.8 (27th of 30) Off Rtg: 109.2 (5th of 30) Def Rtg: 99.9 (2nd of 30) Net Rtg: +9.3 (1st of 30) 1992 Blazers 57-25, Finished 1st in NBA Pacific Division Coach: Rick Adelman (57-25) Executive: Bucky Buckwalter PTS/G: 111.4 (4th of 27) Opp PTS/G: 104.1 (12th of 27) SRS: 6.94 (2nd of 27) Pace: 99.0 (6th of 27) Off Rtg: 111.4 (7th of 27) Def Rtg: 104.2 (3rd of 27) Net Rtg: +7.3 (2nd of 27) Lebron shooting .35 .69 and .27 for FG% Free throw and 3pt Jordan W in 6 1997 and 1998 Jazz 64-18, Finished 1st in NBA Midwest Division Coach: Jerry Sloan (64-18) Executive: Scott Layden PTS/G: 103.1 (2nd of 29) Opp PTS/G: 94.3 (8th of 29) SRS: 7.97 (2nd of 29) Pace: 90.0 (17th of 29) Off Rtg: 113.6 (2nd of 29) Def Rtg: 104.0 (9th of 29) Net Rtg: +9.7 (2nd of 29) 62-20, Finished 1st in NBA Midwest Division Coach: Jerry Sloan (62-20) Executive: Scott Layden PTS/G: 101.0 (3rd of 29) Opp PTS/G: 94.4 (13th of 29) SRS: 5.73 (5th of 29) Pace: 89.2 (21st of 29) Off Rtg: 112.7 (1st of 29) Def Rtg: 105.4 (17th of 29) Net Rtg: +7.3 (4th of 29) Miami heat 2020 44-29, Finished 5th in NBA Eastern Conference Coach: Erik Spoelstra (44-29) Executive: Pat Riley PTS/G: 112.0 (15th of 30) Opp PTS/G: 109.1 (10th of 30) SRS: 2.59 (8th of 30) Pace: 98.3 (27th of 30) Off Rtg: 112.5 (7th of 30) Def Rtg: 109.5 (11th of 30) Net Rtg: +3.0 (7th of 30) Jordan back to back W Last Shots - Iconic!! Lebron Mickey Bubble - hasn’t won since!! Wilt to 30K 940 games Jordan 961 games* Lebron 1107 games to 30K ( 147 more games ) ( MJ’s WIZARDS WON THAT GAME WHILE LEBEYONCE HAD A GIMME LOVE CONCERT AND SAT OUT @kobebryant would have finished the game.. ) Jordan playoff Winners 3 Lebron 5 Playoff Games for MJ 179, Lebron 266 ( 86 more games ) Awards and accolades between Lebron and MJ 1 mvp 2 fmvp, 2 rings, 9x scoring titles, 3x steals leader while leading in ppg, 4x1st team all defense ; this difference, would make a top 12 player better than KD Lebron vs Mj in thePlayoffs; Total points: 1st MJ: 5th Ppg 5th Mj 1st Playoff ppg 6th Mj1st Scoring titles 6th Mj 1st Finals mvps 2nd Mj 1st Defensive first team 5th Mj 1st PER 3rd Mj 1st Playoff per 3rd MJ 1st Winshares 48 min 8th Mj 1st Playoff win shares 48 3rd Mj 1st Playoff bpm 3rd Mj 1st Offensive bpm 2nd Mj 1st Playoff offensive bpm 2nd Mj 1st Game score 14th Mj 1st More Lebron Playoff totals; Finals loses 1st Missed shots 1st Missed 3’s 1st Turnovers 1st Finals sweeps: 1st Finals turnovers 1st Missed ft’s 3rd Missed final shots 2nd Missed finals 3’s 3rd Missed free throws finals 4th Most finals series lost 3rd Worst plus minus finals 6th Playoff losses 5th 1200 less field goals than Mj Narrative Exposed!!* FG/FGA Attempts when MJ and Lebron led in made field goals: Lebron 05’ MP 3388 FG 795 FGA 1684 .472% 80 games Jordan 87’ MP 3281 FG 1098 FGA 2279 .482 82 games ( 303 More field goals for MJ ) Lebron 08’ MP 3027 FG 794 FGA 1642 .484 75 games Jordan 88 MP 3311 FG 1069 FGA 1998 . 535 82 games ( 275 more field goals for Mj ) Lebron 11’ MP 3063 FG 758 FGA 1485 .510 79 games Jordan 89’ MP 3255 FG 966 FGA 1795 .538 81 games ( 208 more field goals for MJ ) Lebron 13’ MP 2877 FG 765 FGA 1354 .565 76 games Jordan 90’ MP 3197 FG 1034 FGA 1964 .526 82 games ( 269 more field goals for Mj ) Lebron 18’ MP 3036 FG 857 FGA 1580 .542 82 Games Jordan 91’ MP 3034 FG 990 FGA 1837 .539 82 games ( 133 more field goals for MJ ) Wizards Jordan 03’ MP 3031 FG 679 FGA 1527 .445% 82 games Laker Lebron 22’ MP 2084 FG 640 FGA 1221 .524 56 games le Load management Jordan continued leading league in Fg makes; Jordan 92’ MP 3102 FG 943 FGA 1818 .519 80 games Jordan 93’ MP 3067 FG 992 FGA 2003 .495 78games Jordan 96’ MP 3090 FG 916 FGA 1850 .495 Jordan 97’ MP 3106 FG 920 FGA 1892 .486 Jordan 98’ MP 3181 FG 881 FGA 1893 .465 All 82 games But Yes Bronsexuals LeBrOn Is ThE GrEaTeST Lebron’s Greatest Hits; ️ *6x finals loses * 22-33 record in finals games Most finals L’s ever * Swept 2 NBA Finals * Shot under 40% in 4 playoff series * Shot 40% fg in 2 finals series * Shot for 22ppg, .395fg, .200 3pt, .69 FT% and commited 23 of the Cavs 44 turnovers in 07 Finals while Media and Bronsexuals blamed teammates * Outscored by Jason Terry in 11 Finals ( Terry Averaged 10 less min of playtime ) * Locked down by JJ Barrea In Iso in 11 Finals * Averaged 5 Turnovers per game in 2 playoffs series * Can’t win titles without a super team * 2 rings in Miami after 9 was Promised * 0 rings in first 7 Cleveland seasons * No playoffs 2 years until Mike Brown and Larry Hughes came * Beat only 1 50 win team from 04-10 * Lost to 36 year old Duncan in 14 * Lost to Magic as the favorite with help from the NBA, Nike and the Refs in 09 with a 60 win team vs a 50 win team *Lost again as the favorite 60-50 win team vs celtics after being up 2-1 with help from Nike, Refs and NBA never met Kobe cuz he failed * Combined Averages in game 4, 5, and 6 semis vs Boston in 2010; 18/53 fg .339% 2/13 3pt .153 % 26/35 ft .74 19 turnovers * Averaged 17 ppg in 11 Finals * Had scoreless 4th quarters in east finals/ playoffs 2017, 2011, 2021, 2020 * 0-6 game tying or winners in finals * 1 title in 11 seasons in cleveland * Shot 4-12 after playoff mode in 2021 * 2022 Lakers had worse record than 01,02 Wizards * 1st round bounce with number one defense in 21’ * 3-4 vs 60 win teams 10-9 vs 50 win teams * 3-8 Finals vs Dirk, Duncan KD and Steph * 6tovers in 07 finals. .356 Fg% .200 3pt * 8pts game 4 11 finals * Saved by Ray allen and Kyrie * 78-196 .397fg% in 15 finals after saying he was the best player in the world * 113 misses 3rd most in finals history * 3-17 in final 5 minutes when scores within 5 points All time Turnover Regular Season and Playoffs while having 1 82 game season * 1st all time missed field goals playoffs * Back to back Bronze medals in International comp 04 and 06 * Stripped in clutch in back to back western semis, And than Choked in game four with a brick and a block and swept in same series *Breaking Records, Racking L’s *” My son Better than NBA Players!! “ ( Sometime Later )……. “ Leave Bronny aLone now, let him be a kid he’s just a boi from Akron and Clevelumnd.. “ * 2x Broom Back to Back Invitational play in champion But Lebron’s the Greatest

[@michaelhiggins8843]

It’s almost like politics has more stakes which is why people get so heated over it 😂

[@harleygunn4783]

​@@michaelhiggins8843lol politics on average is way less toxic than arguments between sports fans, anime fans, video game fans etc.

[@unclereub4024]

That was my comment. Need a break from political vitriol.

[@nuts5388]

@@harleygunn4783that is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read

[@vinodior5191]

@@harleygunn4783you clearly haven’t seen this guys other political debates then.

[@8gz]

Real ones know MJ did it first and better

[@darkking9836]

Nope. Search up clips from the 80’s and 90’s. They were BUMS. Lebron plays against much harder competition

[@johndyer9232]

Real ones know Larry Bird is the GOAT 😉.

[@Gavin12447]

@@darkking9836fax

[@master-oppressor]

Where would Nike be without LeBron?😂😂😂😂

[@rawbarber9012]

​@@darkking9836LeBron had the weaker competition. The LEastern conference were a bunch of teams barely .500 and with losing records is what Lebum overcame. Meanwhile MJ was in the dominant conference in the 80s and 90s against much harder competition in a much more physical era. MJ a much better shooter, the greatest scorer and clutch machine. Nobody won a chip once Jordan hit his stride and on his watch so many greats came up short. LeBron era everyone got a chip with ease and beating LeBron was a commonality. LeBron isn't dominant and a 35 year old Jason Terry locked him up in the finals when LeBron was an MVP of the league and Terry was an old journeyman. Get out of here with the nonsense.

[@ashesly]

I promise you in 50 years from now people will still be wearing Jordans.

[@Hester-l6k]

Probably, they've transcended basketball at this point. There's people that wear Jordans nowadays that haven't even touched a basketball in their life.

[@reedschadegg9023]

​@@Hester-l6kimpact in a way...no?

[@TerenceVincentLagare]

My Grandma wears Jordan but didn't know who the fuck Jordan is. Same thing with my gay friend he got Jordan's but didn't like basketball he do like balls

[@Capeesh_]

@@Hester-l6kwell idk about that considering almost everyone has touched a basketball…😂

[@spragzpc1]

Facts 💯

[@steve45431]

I fucking love it.. Charlie is definitely well rounded.. I wish all “debates” went like this, two people sharing their opinions without huge emotional outbursts. The world would run so much smoother 🙏🏻

[@thegreatdebate1197]

I'm from England and my mum and dad know absolutely nothing about basketball but they know who Michael Jordan is.

[@nottipack4385]

Notoriety does not equal greatness lmao

[@azzxy9800]

​@@nottipack4385it does. I only knew lebron when he was hated for forming the miami big three. I knew jordan before i even became a basketball fan

[@ObeseGorilla229]

Most people here don't know either of them, but everyone who watches it knows that LeBron is the goat, so what if he's lost more finals, he's also made more finals, which is more impressive

[@nottipack4385]

@@ObeseGorilla229 also people act like Jordan never lost a playoff series or something and to say that lebron isn’t a better teammate when Jordan was punching his teammates and verbally was abusive so bad to the point where we all basically disrespect a top 10 player in Scottie and treat him like Jordan’s sidekick

[@Ratnik_Svetla_1389]

@@ObeseGorilla229 LOL

[@myahlevy2269]

I’m from Europe and Michael Jordan is more known then Lebron James

[@Hallo123123able]

Fr I live in Sweden and I never watched nor played basketball the only name I knew from that sport was Jordan

[@mauriceward2090]

MJ changed the game when it wasn’t as known, you only have one player in each sport to do that

[@Hoopsforlife11]

ok lebron still betta

[@Hoopsforlife11]

@elpatron1010 no he’s better he’s a better offensive player he’s better in transition he’s bigger stronger and faster and a better 3pt shooter better rebounder so there you go he’s a better all around basketball player than mj stop jocksniffin for mj

[@Hoopsforlife11]

@elpatron1010 so robert horry is better than mj he’s 7-0 in the finals and bill russell has ELEVEN ring so by your logic mj is not the goat

[@GMEOK]

Out of all the debates on campus this is probably the most intelligent of them all.

[@timothyalonzo9633]

How look at the stats don’t watch ball clearly😂

[@pablorages1241]

... the kid still talks so confidently when he is SO WRONG

[@j4m7yt59]

@@timothyalonzo9633the point he’s trying to make is that at least the kid used stats instead of blatantly saying he’s wrong

[@Muddywaters696]

Atleast he's not trying to convince people that sending $300 billion dollars to terrorists is a good thing because a magic book said so

[@savannahbogamers0723]

@@Muddywaters696which magic book? There is more than one.

[@hamzahRatcliffe]

I love the way he debates, man. Casual with a smile on his face. Always brings excellent arguments to back up his opinion. Autodidect, too. How can you not respect this self made man.

[@jakehenny3713]

Bro thinks lebron is more influential yet he’s wearing Jordan’s 😂🤣

[@kentirch9721]

he didnt said he didnt like jordan so why wouldn't he wear jordans just because he thinks lebron is better? your brain must be burning right now

[@Ace__Matic]

@@kentirch9721did you even watch the video? the guy asked him for his definition of greatness and he responded with “impact and influence” and MJ very clearly has much more influence than Lebron so that’s why the comment said it’s funny he’s saying that Lebron is greater when his own definition of greatness only backs up MJ over Lebron

[@Ciwg]

@@kentirch9721Bad grammar, and bad way of talking. Poor person 😢

[@kentirch9721]

@@Ciwg You can understand what im saying so i dont need to say anything else i dont have to add periods and shit so stfu this is a comment not a essay lil bro get that through your head if you can understand just read nun else

[@carrollreggie66]

Many wore 23 before mj its not his number anyone can wear it yall are brainwashed

[@travisfrenchmusic4502]

I love that this kid brought this energy to the table. ***CHARLIE*** "Wanna debate abortion?" ***KID*** "MJ or Lebron?" Edit: Wow, I'm getting popular. First order of business with all this newfound popularity, is...letting everyone know that Abortion IS murder. 👀🤔

[@jothechampwilson8409]

Fr thats a nice little no harsh debate takes a little bit off the top if things are getting s little to harsh

[@Barney_rubble983]

Sounds like a nice dude, he doesn't know much about basketball but.😂

[@cpt.arctourus7950]

Gotta be relaxed sometimes

[@ItzLìris]

I woulda said MJ or Kobe tbh

[@williamtrieu7085]

Fun conversation and people will still scream “fckn lefties” 😂

[@Zallusions]

Dude this is such a breath of fresh air to debate sports instead of politics

[@NicholasAPena]

That's what I'm saying

[@shawncrawford6958]

That’s what I was gonna say I didn’t know he was a fan haha😂

[@OPMhero4fun]

Man I was thinking that too. Finally an Internet video that isn't about Trump, Biden or a war.

[@1blkvinci]

the thing here is most republicans (just look at fox news comments on a lebron story for an example) hate lebron so there is a political undertone even here unfortunately, for charles kirk to say the debate not even close shows how little he knows about basketball, i think jordan is better due to how godlike his offense is along with his elite defense and success, but lebron is definitely more rounded as a player and has been playing at an allstar level for 20+ years now, he lost 6 finals but that doesnt change the fact he been in 10 finals (u gotta win 12 playoff games before u get to the finals lol)

[@thrifty2424]

​@@1blkvinciwhat the fuck are you Even attempting to say besides complete bullshit idiocracy

[@HoodieSidybo]

why does no one bring up that MJ been in the league for 15 seasons and made the finals 6 times LeBron been in the league 21 seasons and been to the finals 10 times also statistic longevity, bron bron hasn’t slowed down much where as Wizards MJ is seen as a picture in the dictionary next to the word “washed”

[@dogsunleashed3099]

100% MJ. Dominated the game. Quit for a few years. Came back and dominated again.

[@TM-lq1qf]

This!! He would have won 🏆 NINE STRAIGHT FINALS if he didn’t take 3 years off between his two 3-peats! And he had the ability to TAKE OVER games! Team needed 60 points? Okay, done. Needed 75? Done. Needed every foul shot made? Done and done. Needed a steal to change the momentum-done. Puhlease on this Lebron BS. That’s bc this generation never saw MJ play! I bet they haven’t even seen a single full game of him in action. Anyone who wants to make this debate for Lebron must first watch Jordan play in a few games - including the flu game.

[@tbizzy3606]

"Compete, or I will dominate you" ..Michael Jordan, no truer words in bball.

[@christopherholt954]

Who has more points rebounds and assists

[@barrythompson9777]

​@christopherholt954 who played twice as long to get those numbers? And STILL doesn't have 6 rings?

[@sauce7608]

and still his team almost made it to the finals the year he left.😂😂 phil was the system mj was just a piece to complete it thats why phil won more chips with kobe because mj can be replaced with the same type of player.😂😂😂 you just need a player like pippen to do most of the work like rebound,assists,blocks and steals to make mj the scorer thats why pippen had more assists,rebounds,steals and block than mj in all 6 championships combined the same with kobe they had to get gasol to complete the system because he can score and pass the ball but he cant defend thats why they went and get metta world peace,it wasnt mj and kobe that won it was the triangle offence thats why mj and kobe got out of the 1st round 1 fcking time in 35 seasons combined 😂😂😂truth hurts 😂😂😂

[@Absjdkosmwnskxvd]

No one will be wearing lebron’s when he retires but everyone will still be wearing JORDANS. That’s IMPACT!

[@PM-wp6ze]

Even Lebron wears Jordan’s even tho he has his own shoe lmao wears 23 and did space jam 2 which was trash. He wants to be Jordan so bad

[@Kennyisamalekaren]

To think no one’s gonna wear lebrons is laughable lmao

[@NDE239]

Not everyone that wears J's are MJ fans or knows anything about basketball

[@AtlasMan-ec4vv]

MJ is the goat all around the globe where internet and social media is not yet a thing. And I am talking about the 2 MJs, Yes!

[@Sinister_02_]

Guy scored 40000 points is this even a debate still

[@adamakii]

"lebron makes bums play good" MJ made great players look like bums.

[@mellenix]

Love this answer lol

[@LilJMoore]

Also if LeBron makes bums better why they always saying he has no help?

[@mattor8213]

MJ played no great players

[@jet4661]

I was trying to come up with good comment but man this can't be topped!

[@jahturiche9148]

Cause they were

[@geocentrist6567]

Dude is right though Magic and Byrd redefined the game first.

[@aggiesrecruitingexpert]

Screw politics, this is what America wants to see

[@hamzaabbaszaidi8788]

Charlie should stick to talking about basketball, seems like he actually knows a bit about it

[@skandota4864]

@hamzaabbaszaidi788 Why can't he speaks about something else but basket? What's wrong about it?

[@vividly94]

@@skandota4864 Dude is just being condescending.

[@skandota4864]

@vividlu94 shit you're right, reading that comment again i realize i misunderstood it, my bad xd

[@Sasquatch509]

I agree idk why everyone thinks this guy is some homophobic monster he is human just because his opinion is different doesn’t make him horrible

[@VincentWilliams007]

MJ all the way.

[@JamesWillKickYourButt]

Lj all day. Better player. Mj more iconic and bigger for the sport. Mike Tyson is iconic in boxing snd only top 10 maybe 5. Mj is just mike tyson

[@Uncivil_Dreams]

100%. when the kid says he judges greatness by influence i was like "....wait then how are you saying lebron is greater?". lebron hasnt had remotely the same influence and impact on the sport, not even in the same ballfield. and im gen z (98) so i actually seen more lebron growing up than MJ on a regular basis

[@cammcgrath7012]

I’m a huge Larry legend fan but even I know MJ is generations ahead of queen lebron

[@Hoopsforlife11]

when’s the last time you watched a full season of basketball

[@abprepboy33]

i thinkt hats true, i dont like charlies argument though. he used team achievements to prove how good a player is. Its flawed. I think guys like charles barkley, karl malone, and Patrick Ewing are better than Horace Grant, Luke Longley and Bill Cartright..... but they dont have the rings

[@thehumanpractice2985]

I am not from the US, nor do I follow Basketball, but I 100% know who MJ is.

[@diomalik2555]

Yahh MJ make great music

[@thehumanpractice2985]

@@diomalik2555 I didn't know Mary Jane had a musical career

[@dardar3596]

@@thehumanpractice2985Michael Jackson had a very impactful career actually he is not wrong

[@thehumanpractice2985]

@@dardar3596 Bro ....

[@KidLeroi]

​@@thehumanpractice2985you don't know who LeBron are?

[@CitizenoftheWorld1]

Claiming LeBron is the #2 GOAT is not hatin. Sadly LeBron had lots of haters in the social media era who don't even consider him top 5 🤣🤣🤣

[@Jeremy-q3p2m]

Lebrons shoes sold $340 million last year Jordans.....$6 billion......jordans make up 55% of the Basketball shoe market.....

[@TJMcGOAT]

What does that have to do with the goat debate

[@sleep1_024]

@@TJMcGOATFax

[@k1-shalalashalala]

@@TJMcGOAT impact

[@Halo-vz1ef]

​@@TJMcGOAT Impact dumbasss

[@NiGHTS1980]

And he's been retired for 20 years

[@chadcat420]

Let me put it this way: Jordan won a three peat, retired for 2 years to play baseball, came back to the NBA and won another three peat. Who does that? Only Jordan. GOAT 🐐

[@bobby_hill8357]

In an arguably much more physical era with less load management

[@kyaboysavannah1336]

@@bobby_hill8357”much more important is physical” we been done with the 90s

[@frankwalker888]

Well said!!!

[@kelialee7145]

Factz my guy. You had to be there..Jordan played baseball too

[@richsantv]

How many time he got eliminated from the playoff?

[@ochirhon17mn]

I was born in 1989 at small village in Siberia. I remember that I have heard Micheal Jordan and Micheal Jackson before i even know whats electricity. MJ must be truly goat

[@shelbymartin760]

Both GOATS in their own respective leagues

[@Nakusa89]

Both MJ are GOAT

[@ikevlobos]

Michael

[@dylanmiller3252]

​@StayblessedWithChristShow wtf kind of comment is that sir.

[@dylanmiller3252]

😂

[@duskark3115]

charlie kirk talking about sports might be the best thing i’ve ever heard

[@Sheruff1978]

No one who actually watched both thinks lebron is even close. Only people who grew up after Jordan’s prime think it’s a competition.

[@ExtraterrestrialBeing-jc7to]

That's Facts.. Nobody can even compare to MJ

[@user-gp6ny7yu2b]

Man these are some mentally handicapped takes. Lebron is Michael Jordan Scotty Pippin and Dennis Rodman all in one. You're insane. Leading every player on both teams in the finals in points rebounds steals and assist and blocks that makes you the greatest. Literally dominated every aspect of basketball in the finals while coming back from down 3 1 for the first time in history.

[@merciojunior2569]

Y’all need to find a way to express your opinions without making it look like a rule or sum. There are legends of the game that watched both and say LeBron is the goat, others say it’s Kobe and others say it’s MJ. Nobody is wrong, we are entitled to our own opinions. This is why most MJ fans are hated, y’all think you know it all

[@Sheruff1978]

@@merciojunior2569 we don’t know everything, we just know MJ is the best ever. I’m not saying there are non but there are very few NBA legends that say LeBron is better. LeBron may have better career stats individually but for those of us were watched both there is zero question. He changed the entire culture of basketball. It wasn’t just his physical talent it was the way he played, the way he won, the way he led teams. He was the ultimate competitor. If Jordan played today he would absolutely DOMINATE. On top of that LeBron has become a whiner and a victim he annoys the general public and turns people OFF to the NBA.

[@WithAllDueRespecto]

Excellent point. I've watched both. MJ the best. I'd put Bird in front of Bron

[@pagejames8754]

That's all it is, generational. These kids didn't see MJ play

[@quirozr8153]

Millions of Mexican knows MJ, without internet. Who's LeBron?

[@scottwistinghausen1888]

The dude arguing for Jordan is in his early thirties. He didn’t see him play either. Glazing over a dude you have only heard stories about is annoying af.

[@moneyball2172]

I have to agree. Mike is the grail of basketball. There is no time like the years Mike played the game, when it comes to the world of Basketball! Lebron’s longevity makes him the greatest athlete of all time. Michael is the greatest to ever touch a basketball

[@AlexWinfer760]

I agree

[@NawtChoDaDdy]

@@scottwistinghausen1888I mean that’s what lebron fans do as well lol how many lebron fans actually watch his games? How many just listen to what others say and watch short clips of his highlights. It’s the same thing except Jordan became world renown without social media and smart phones

[@MrLelepele]

Lebron stans will argue about his influence while wearing Jordans

[@LuciferArc1]

Bro. That shit is so fucking true

[@otistory4740]

Jordan Stan's pretend scottie wasn't on a minimum contract and that Phil jackson isn't the best coach of all time w 13 rings

[@MrBean7137]

😆..This needs to be the top comment 👍🏻

[@Javaisthecoolest]

Basketball wasn’t even that competitive back then💀

[@somef-ingband3003]

Everybody wants Jordan's. Nobody has ever stolen a pair of lebrons

[@BlueRoadCommerce]

I love the fact that this young black kid dropped respect on Larry Bird

[@Ranzulx]

Jordan is so famous that a country in the middle east was named after him.

[@pderpy1687]

😂😂😂

[@valkyrafe]

LOL

[@absynthesized89]

Good one!

[@RisingStars112]

And a river

[@RisingStars112]

And a river

[@chiefxx8259]

Jordans been retired for 22 years, and his sneakers still out sell everything LeBron has ! Jordan 6 championships, 6 finals MVPS, 10 scoring titles, 9 time first team all-defense, Olympic gold medalist, and that invincible aura.👍🏀 Jordan is Bruce Lee, LeBron is Jackie Chan ! Jordan is Michael Jackson, LeBron is Usher. LeBron should always be thankful, that he never had to play against Jordan on national TV in a title game with cameras and all fans watching.👍🏀

[@joshring9710]

Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan suck but not as much as Micheal Jackson and usher diddys pusher. 😂

[@rafayg7376]

Bruce lee and Chan certainly don't suck. Why do you say that?​@@joshring9710

[@bobbychance7800]

Not to mention basketball was way more physical in Jordan's Era. Now you go to the freethrow anytime u shoot in traffic. If Jordan got the same calls they call now he would have 5000 more points on his record

[@bobbychance7800]

Ggd

[@bobbychance7800]

If Jordan got the foul calls like they do now Jordan would have 5000 more points. LeBron gets a foul call anytime he shoots in traffic.

[@marcashawable]

From outside the US... We all know Jordan, who's Lebron

[@dominikschachner7208]

Should have checked... i wrote the same 😅

[@Zulooth1]

Exactly

[@fobbleknocker]

do you know shaq

[@jeffpesos420]

Lol stop I'm South African and EVERYBODY knows Lebron

[@jimmypaster6919]

You know who lebron is stop that

[@WavyYuhDig]

It’s so refreshing to see conversations like this happening instead of all the hatred, political ideology and division

[@A_Literal_Egg]

Michael Jordan got a shoe named after him and turned nike from a company losing money to one of the biggest corporations in the world and buddies gonna say lebron has more influence than jordan

[@scluciano]

Yeah, and 90,s space jam was way better than Lebron remake.

[@A_Literal_Egg]

@scluciano the dude said that the players influence on the sport was a main factory in being the GOAT so yeah his shoes and Space Jam are fair points

[@kingscotimus]

LeBron said Jordan was better.

[@sldrmedik]

What Lebron has to deal with in the league today is far more difficult than what Jordan had too. If you brought Jordan to the modern league at his peak, and put him on Cleveland, he would not have the success he had in the 90s

[@Ge0rge_0rwell]

​@@sldrmedik ridiculous

[@noreaction6430]

​​​@@sldrmedikYou know, comparing the league 20+ years ago to present and expecting it to be the same is really a stupid argument. You have to look at their own era and players and what they accomplished. 🤦 More spacing, less physicality, MJ would be better today kid. Also, Lebron had the easiest East. His 9 finals is a testament for that. 😂 The reasons Lebron had lost more finals is because he had flops & meltdowns. Do you really expect MJ to do that in Cleveland or Heat? 😂 LOGIC

[@Philthorn]

​​@@noreaction6430also, MJ did what lebron never accomplished: Win or lose a game and never EVER make excuses

[@itsascaryworld9788]

@@sldrmedikborn in 2002 😂😂😂

[@herogebrial]

Jordan will forever be #1

[@godwulf9698]

Idk bout forever, but he set the bar really high

[@iode9999]

that's such an L mentality to have. Stay close minded L

[@disgustingfilth9240]

Washed

[@celenial6009]

He will not forever be, but as of right now he still is.

[@PrimeA169]

@@iode9999thinking lebron is even top 5 is L mentality

[@jd87926]

MJ never openly said, "Ain't no party like a Diddy party." 😂

[@MrPonytron]

Saying LeBron James had more influence than Michael Jordan is absolutely nonsensical

[@danielebowman]

That shows how clueless he was/ Jordan's shoes have outsold LeBrons every year and he's been retired for 20 years. Lebron isn't even as popular as peak Kobe outside the US.

[@ryanperry7575]

@@danielebowman you ain't lying.over in China Kobe is the goat.even Shaq made a comment about how the fans were only there to see Kobe and pretty much ignored everyone else lol.kobe is number 2 in my book.

[@zeged]

So let me get this straight. Y’all are saying Jordan is better simply because his shoes are more popular?🤣

[@ryanperry7575]

@@zeged out of everything said shoes is all you got from that?

[@MrPonytron]

@@zeged I'm saying MJ is better cuz he won more championship games

[@nopers369]

"You stepped on my LeBrons" Said no one. Edit: LeBron nerds are triggered.

[@scoozilife]

This deserves like 1839729 likes 😂

[@thund3r94]

Facts 😭😭

[@raylopez604]

Brooo 😂

[@Thefinggod]

I say this all the time and I like Jordan more😭

[@keithjones7432]

Right!

[@AoiGP]

Lebron is a cry baby. Cries over the dumbest fouls, gets hurt by a slap on the head. Not a leader but a follower. Jordan wins!

[@ahmed-alnoor]

I have seen alot of dumb takes through the years, yours has to be the dumbest of all time. At least put a valid argument Jesus 😂

[@riffraff1285]

Who did more for the sport? - Jordan Who’s the goat? - Lebron I’m sorry oldheads don’t come at me

[@nonbiasedreviews001]

Lebron couldnt even wear MJs number in miami because miami had retired it because MJ was THAT good.

[@Tybro94]

Facts!! 😅

[@HelloMoto1991]

Hell, he couldn’t hold MJ’s jock, let alone wear his number.

[@Underrated709]

@@HelloMoto1991💯💯

[@ChanceQuanye]

But he wore it in LA and LA is probably the most marketable team in the nba your point is?

[@nonbiasedreviews001]

@@ChanceQuanye my point is name one team lebron never played for that retired his jersey

[@kelvincrown4567]

In Africa, you hear about Michael Jordan much more than Lebron till this day. Who is James?

[@doganay6137]

Lmao I won’t take Africa as reference

[@DavidGuzman-g8b]

At least we have wate

[@AJ-ew7kr]

Lmfao Africa has no relevancy in basketball

[@P1Josh113]

A lakers,cavs, and heat player that is called the GOAT

[@karflexgamimgfr]

​@@AJ-ew7kryes they do its because where the bla-

[@jadetrentrichards255]

How is this even a debate??? It's Jordan. THE END.

[@bosshogg7470]

And..... PERIOD.

[@larryhmiller5336]

@@bosshogg7470and that’s gay. If we’re going by that logic then Bill Russell (Who is top 10 no doubt) but in terms of never losing

[@okaythegoat]

we done wih the 90’s

[@haks7111]

Dude don't even know what "GOAT" means, It stands for "Greatest of All Time" and he out here talking about Jordan being the goat before Lebron, Smh.

[@h0udinl]

Mj had super teams Lebrons the goat

[@brandondean5329]

“LeBron has had more impact and influence” 🤣 As someone who isn’t American and has been fortunate to travel across the world, LeBron doesn’t come even close MJ😂

[@ScarlettO-Hare29]

Jordan played with pneumonia, LeBron cries almost every game🤣

[@apelespla6108]

Lebronda😢😢😢😢😢

[@TM-lq1qf]

This ^^ Jordan would put up 60+ points if his team needed it that night and take over the game entirely. Lebron doesn’t do that - he just consistently scored a lot in his career against inferior teams with longevity to beat MJ’s scoring/other records. Jordan would have won NINE STRAIGHT FINALS if he didn’t step away for 3 years to play baseball and grieve his father! Instead he won 3 before and then won 3 more after coming back and retiring (at a young age with the Bulls).

[@ajmartin1782]

@@TM-lq1qfman gtfoh😂😂 Austin reaves is better than 90% of NBA players back then & you’re acting like Jordan was going against curry (best shooter of all time), Kyrie (best handler & one of the best layup packages of all time), jokic (one of the best big man’s of all time). Y’all stay riding MJ’s dick

[@treyoftriphorya]

It wasn’t pneumonia he was drunk AF from previous night. But that’s still impressive to not be 100% in any situation and pull off the victory he had. Plus lebron had menstrual cramps and had to be carried out

[@jakec912_]

cope

[@joshuasmith1597]

This guy is lost man. Lebron will never come close to touching Jordan in terms of legacy.

[@inspectuhtuff]

what lebron did in cleveland will never be done ever again

[@user-uv5qr3gc4i]

@@jerryh2954it matters for the goat debate. But u don’t care to have a legit debate u just wanna have ur nostalgia and be delusional

[@Plu_]

No one gives af about legacy it’s about how good you are

[@Plu_]

@@jerryh2954 don’t change the topic because I’m right and stop telling people things you can’t back up

[@moneymike9952]

Lebron done it and surpassed Jordan . Everything Jordan has done Lebron has come and done it better . Jordan left after his first retirement. Bulls went on to go 55-27 Lebron leaves to Heat . Cavs finished 19-63 and also when he comes back to the cavs and leaves for the lakers . Cavs finished that next year 19-63 . Lebron is the goat .

[@Ken_N]

Michael Jordan was one of the first things foreigners say when asked about America.

[@dyto2287]

nope, we say mcdonalds and fat people.

[@fc-ik4ni]

I'm from Brazil and I know Jordan the greatest basketball player of all time but who is this LeBron?????

[@thekingflea2199]

@@fc-ik4niall foreigners are in the bandwagons in America sheep are always sheep no mater where you go

[@masschaos6483]

@@fc-ik4niha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

[@superkafir]

@@fc-ik4ni Same here in France

[@besolanga4826]

Jordan and LeBron in the same sentence is a NO NO. Jordan can't be compared to LeBron.

[@EatMyPropwash]

Lebron had to jump to numerous different teams to win. He’s a trophy chaser. Jordan did it all with 1. Jordan 110%

[@stepha5926]

He's also a flopper... And a cryer.

[@verybasic9608]

Glazing

[@patrickmccarthy8344]

not sure you understand anything really

[@fistfire2]

Cuz he couldn't beat Curry in the finals, and need to build a new team to get revenge 😭

[@LikeABossInThe808]

And Jordan couldn’t carry his team to the finals as the only star on his team. Jordan never beat bird, pistons and that series against bird he got swept. Without Scottie Jordan don’t win shit

[@blaster5800]

I live in Europe and I can guarantee you that Jordan is an icon, and Lebron is barely known here.

[@D3ATHSTROK3.]

Exactly ....Lebron who?

[@pizzadeliveryspringtrap9152]

Seriously? Lebron james is very popular around here.

[@Daft0Cean968]

serious overexaggeration Lebron is still known lol just not as much of an icon

[@carljohnson4710]

FACTS

[@TylerOuellette-bj9se]

Nah anyone who watches basketball know LeBron is better

[@paula-yr7pp]

Young bloods will never understand how much of a impact Jordan made he was the most famous man in the world during his playing days

[@adamthegreat6239]

Sorry but that's not right there was another Michael that was FAAAARRRR more famous LOL..🕴

[@stanleyclark923]

@@adamthegreat6239 HE HE!

[@htz4260]

While wearing his last name on their feet!😂

[@garydelong7750]

If that kid was 15 years older he’d be disagreeing with himself no doubt.

[@aquabotstudios4444]

These old heads won’t understand the game has changed!

[@leeofdoom4452]

As a brit, who has travelled throughout Europe and Asia... LeBron is known by about 10% of people, MJ is known by 99%

[@inthezone.8563]

“Impact and Influence” I BET HE WEARING JORDANS 😂

[@chrisramos3454]

Or at least got a few pairs in his closet heh

[@BrandDesignerMC]

He probably don't even know what LeBron shoes look like🤦

[@inthezone.8563]

@@BrandDesignerMC 😂

[@O82423]

@@BrandDesignerMCwho doesn’t know what lebron’s look like tho tf?😂 so many ppl use to wear 10-13 religiously

[@PlanetJigobotTV]

Yea, this kid don't go to the kick spot and be like you got the new LeBrons?

[@ScottStephenSmith]

The problem is Lebron whines and loses our respect. Whining isn't seen as negatively by younger generations.

[@Itssabw]

I'll admit, Lebron is one of the greatest players of all time. Yet, I have never liked him for this reason. I'm a Laker fan and I don't even really watch basketball anymore because of Lebron. I can't watch my team without watching him cry.

[@timothyashe3779]

Thank you for calling about whining.

[@StressLessSteve]

Y’all act like everyone doesn’t cry about calls. Get off Bron nuts. What he’s done for the game is insane. And he’s putting up crazy numbers at his age. The shit has never been done and will never be done again. Mark my words

[@francietheincrediblewarrio3039]

@@cantcommentDamn that’s sick. What game was it?

[@jevonburnside2352]

Doesn’t mean he’s not the best basketball player to live. Old heads are too biased and are stuck in the past. & who raised the younger generations? The old heads so please stfu

[@brandonatwell3664]

Lebron could play another 5 years and the answer would still be MJ

[@BluntVille]

That kid is surrounded by people wearing jordans lol this generation every kid has agh pair of air 1s !! n i mean everyyyy single kid hahaha

[@crispyrice8258]

@@BluntVillepoor argument. Jordans are for style now. Nobody wears them to hoops

[@DFrizzleNizzle]

How about you put Lebron in the 90s and see what happens

[@Kevin23001]

@@DFrizzleNizzlewhat would that do besides embarrass lebron 😂

[@itzonlypeter]

​@@DFrizzleNizzlelechoke. You can't flop during an Era when hand checking is part of the game. It's more physical than when he entered the game. His longevity will be gone. With less medical, and drugs to help him maintain top shape.

[@michaelgrayman7614]

Jordan increased the popularity of the game, Lebron decreased it.

[@jonnyl2001]

If you're the best at something people say "He's the Michael Jordan of...." No one will ever say that using Lebron's name.

[@markdevlin150]

give it another 20 years. This generation will teach the youth how amazing lebron was and never mentioned what came before him.

[@caldogz90]

@@markdevlin150agreed

[@oceans6517]

@@markdevlin150unfortunately

[@postskeetclarity]

goat

[@jakegoulin7701]

if someone has longevity then i would call them the lebron james. i’d say that zidane, beckham, ronaldinho, etc are all the michael jordan’s of soccer but messi and ronaldo are the lebron james’ of soccer. but then you’re just getting too many goats in the conversation bc all those names stand on their own

[@midwesternfellowship1237]

No one has ever robbed somebody for a pair of Lebrons.

[@you_tube6733]

😂😂😂

[@MidniteBlue-zv2db]

True facts

[@josecarranza7555]

How do you know?

[@damoncherry5649]

​@@josecarranza7555bruh its facts who tf walks the streets in lebrons

[@franchisefred4066]

@@you_tube6733kobes have been robbed dough 😂😂😂

[@jpdominator]

Jordan hands down. Everyone knows who Jordan is. My mom knows who Jordan is. She has no idea who Lebron is.

[@santiagocuriel8511]

Fr. I don’t even watch basketball I just watch ufc and Jordan is def the goat compared to lebron. You can see someone wear Jordan’s everyday if you go out

[@mahkamsaeed]

Dumb argument

[@kgbaby1466]

She isn't that smart then

[@JohnSmith-gq9gn]

@@kgbaby1466 Obviously she's smarter than you.

[@SwagyP]

@@JohnSmith-gq9gn “obviously”, the u state something not obvious cuz u don’t know the guy smh

[@stevehoang4839]

I AGREE LEBRON AIN'T 💩💩 COMPARED TO JORDAN 👍🏀💯

[@randomhero456]

Nobody gave a shit about basketball until Jordan came around. That's Greatness.

[@Luisshiek]

Magic Johnson and Larry bird both carried before Jordan.

[@Fisoj]

Literally Magic and Bird exist

[@trvrt1cl3]

who told you that lmao?

[@bretanwode]

Jordan is the greatest. But Kareem and Magic and Bird were giants before Jordan was a name. I remember the time.

[@williambaldridge1203]

Random, that just isn't true, bird and Johnson.Made basketball what it is today

[@dfectritual418]

Without Jordan, LeBron would have nothing to aspire to be.

[@mousie508]

Literally has nothing to do with the topic 😂😂😂 if mahomes became better than Brady you’d cling to “well Brady came first”.

[@xSavxage]

​@@mousie508 No the fact Jordan Never lost in the finals. Mahomes already lost a SB. Brady has lost like 4 I believe 2 to the giants 😂 MJ is the GOAT not Bron I'm sorry but Bron is amazing and definitely a generational talent

[@mousie508]

@@xSavxage lol not losing in the finals has nothing to do w being a goat tho.

[@codyfacer2466]

By that logic, players that came before Jordan are better than him.

[@Dawesome97]

​@@BurningCorvidhe got swept twice in the firat round and lost another in the first round. If you wanna base it on championships then Bill Russell is the GOAT

[@jrockwell19]

UK here. I didnt know, or care, a damn thing about basketball until Michael Jordan came along. He's the greatest. Period.

[@ChristyesChrist]

​@@jerryh2954 true but LeBron is a better player

[@koukiguy4163]

The fact is that the younger generation never got to see MJ play or see his impact the way they have been able to see LeBrons. They will never truly be able to understand MJs greatness.

[@XxN0NUk3B005T3RS25xX]

But once again you saw Jordan long before LeBron so he didn't have the chance to impact it for you the way you are saying. He was gone when I was growing up so he had very little impact to my basketball discovery

[@samueljohnston1043]

Exactly I'm from the UK too, we are not a basketball nation especially during the 90s but the general public knew who Michael Jordan was and that he plays for the bulls

[@koukiguy4163]

​@XxN0NUk3B005T3RS25xX that's exactly my point. I've been fortunate enough to see both and to be able to measure. I'm not demeaning anyone it's just a point of perspective. Another player will come that will rival both MJ and LaBron in the GOAT talks and it'll be you in my shoes with the next generation. Hopefully it'll be someone that changes the game beyond MJ and LaBron. From my view of both MJ and LaBron, I just can't hand Bron the GOAT stick. I just can't.

[@rcmike09]

Jordan. Anyone that flops like LeBron can't be #1. Kobe is even better than LeBron

[@aslanzxalz8001]

If you ask people outside of America, most of them know who Michael Jordan is .

[@vokloo]

They know both 💀

[@aslanzxalz8001]

@@vokloo nah, they not American to know both

[@jordanc021]

@@aslanzxalz8001bro everybody knows lebron😭

[@aslanzxalz8001]

@@jordanc021 7 out of 10 will know who mj is. Only 3 out of 10 will know who lebron is.

[@zecomrade82]

Indian gut here, it's true. Many of us know about Jordan but a very few say that they know LeBron.

[@qwill2019]

Aw, a wholesome debate. But it’s Jordan.

[@letAJcook]

lebron.

[@rolypolioli423]

Jordan

[@letAJcook]

@@rolypolioli423 Lebron

[@raymondjones7423]

Is Mayonnaise an instrument?

[@Yreakles]

If you watch Jordan’s games the players of his time were way worse than now and he was leagues better so we’ll never really know in my opinion cus players now are better

[@jaytriplenine999]

I’m so happy to see him talk so passionately yet convincingly about something entirely unpolitical

[@pablorages1241]

... and completely WRONG ... Jordan is the GOAT ... LeBron isn't even close

[@severedproxy]

​@@pablorages1241he was talking about the guy defending MJ, no idea how you got that mixed up. The guy defending lebron is a student, the guy defending mj is a political commentator, logic would tell you who op was talking about.

[@eightbitsofdeath]

yes, i like this because it shows a side to him that still checks out with the other side. kirk is kirk and hes open to listening.

[@superdupervu]

Jordan was getting paid 33 mill a year in 1998. That number was untouched for two decades. Money talks and money says Jordan is worth more and made a bigger impact than lebron will ever.

[@teedo7452]

You’ve NEVER heard of anyone getting robbed for their Lebrons.

[@Josh.Sounds]

because lebrons are basketball shoes Jordans are casual

[@meechydarko8846]

@@Josh.Soundsthat is the power of MJ those are basketball shoes so popular in the 90s through basketball they started being used outside of the court

[@MR-oc8pp]

@@Josh.Soundsthat’s so incorrect. Jordan’s were originally a basketball shoes. Everyone decided to wear it as casual shoes for the way it looks and fit. You don’t see LeBron shoes like that. Matter of fact, are LeBrons even that popular these days?

[@dylankjscott332]

I’m dying

[@Nintendo_Wolf]

@@MR-oc8pp When I go to the YMCA, park, the gym, I see people wear Lebrons all the time

[@Qbano1978]

Jordan is the man, no argument.

[@MrJman967]

Saying "no argument" invalidates your opinion

[@astraldivinityyy7852]

​@MrJman967 including invalidation in your statement automatically makes your statement irrelevant.

[@-ClerzZ-]

​@@MrJman967You thought you ate.

[@miguelalvarez4403]

@@astraldivinityyy7852u literally just did the same thing back to him? 💀

[@MjMerritt-mb2ip]

Bruh Jordan was a different breed Lebron's a big ass baby he barely gets touched and throws a hissy fit not to mention disrespecting the country that gave him his opportunity to even be in the position he's in. All those millions and he plays victim like he's "oppressed" GTFO

[@jkjkpp]

Every black and other races wears Jordan ......not lebrick

[@drxnzity]

Lebrick? More Like Leleadingscorer

[@drxnzity]

also Leoverhated

[@dreadlord1265]

Ok so being racist makes jordan better somehow

[@Dante_Kun]

Le1-4

[@drxnzity]

@@Dante_Kun Legoat

[@Thunderboy98100]

Finally someone who isn’t defending LGBT, white supremacy, college not being a scam, or black people being victims. Finally someone debates something fun and cool for once. 👍

[@stringfalafel7692]

A man once said “If you don’t have Jordan’s, you damn sure don’t have Lebron’s”

[@melanatedgod5337]

I have LeBron's, I don't have Jordan's lol. Seriously I don't.

[@archimedes_espinosa]

@@melanatedgod5337you probably also don’t have babes

[@tylerterain1703]

@@archimedes_espinosa gold

[@bpswank429]

@@melanatedgod5337 you probably ain’t never been laid either

[@waynerowland9591]

I have multiple of both

[@sle2979]

People who live in the fkn forest know who Michael Jordan is

[@Beetlejooce01]

I’m not even American and I’ve heard of him, but I’ve never watched basketball either

[@davidjones-bh5xg]

I have to Google to find Out who MJ is😅

[@cbmjoe06]

😂😂 facts

[@Alexandra_Indina]

I'm russian who was born and still lives in Russia. If you ask me who is a player impersonating basketball, my only answer would be MJ. And i've never ever watched NBA, i was a toddler when he was at his prime. Jordan is such a huge pop-cultural icon, that his name is well-known outside of basketball world and sport in general.

[@SpieGou17]

​@@davidjones-bh5xg Spiderman ex?

[@saltyuno]

The easiest argument. People steal Jordan's, people dont steal lebrons

[@ghuskemarungabsdk8683]

😂

[@pabo-qv3nx]

Wouldn't wear Jordan's even for free.

[@Hoopsforlife11]

jordan has ass shoes now and lebron recently has had good shoes for basketball but they still look bad but they are comfortable

[@brookedougall7855]

And some people steal air….oxygen thieves

[@brookedougall7855]

Every generation has their own opinion on the matter Wilt Chamberlain,Bill Russell ,Magic Johnson,Jerry West, Lou Alcindor ….for all the youngsters out there Karim Abdul Jabbar , Julius Erving Larry Bird Mike Jordan, Kobe Bryant , Le Bron James……Depends on how you define the best? And the decades that they played in

[@jasoncarlton9047]

This is prolly my favorite debate! Lol “He makes bums play good bruh” 😂 gets me every time

[@tonyjohnson3612]

Jordan 100% HANDS DOWN

[@CoreyAwesome]

Ok, this is actually this best Charlie clip I've seen. I wasn't expecting this.

[@Amyayak09]

Yea bc i know u hate politics

[@HeatherSacco-f2w]

Same

[@PlanetJigobotTV]

People compare them as if MJ played 21yrs. Bron has played 21yrs and has 4 rings. MJ only played 13yrs and has 6 rings, and 3 peated.... This means MJ has been winning rings for about 47% of his career. We're done here.

[@twinbunnies4831]

✨✨✨💯✨✨✨

[@SSGFlare]

Then I guess bill russel is the Goat to you since he has 11 rings

[@jalenmoore.]

Mj played 15 seasons

[@pranavkamath]

​@@SSGFlareBill Russell played with 12 HOFers. Jordan played with only four. Lebron when he retires would have 12 as well. Never a debate.

[@SSGFlare]

@@pranavkamath LeBron faced way more tough competition, MJ only faced 1 person in the finals with 25PPG, LeBron faced 9. LeBron faced 6 #1 defenders meanwhile MJ faced 2 and the list goes on. Lebron has it way tougher

[@SeriousLee79]

No matter what you said to them, they will be idiots praising LeBron. MJ is the GOAT.

[@tylernichols6768]

21 years, 4 wins, 5 losses. 15 years, 6 wins, 0 losses. Do people really see merit in comparison?

[@brianwhitley4089]

Lebron is actually 4-6 in the Finals

[@w0lfm4n43]

Going to the finals nearly half ur career.. not that bad tbh. Jordan.. Didnt Jordan also lose in first round of play off finals to the celtics? Arent they counted?

[@owenclark9115]

why do people act like finals losses makes a player worse. Would you rather he never made it? 😭

[@JoshSportsMovies]

Basketball is a team sport, MJ would've never won without Pippen

[@JoshSportsMovies]

​@@brianwhitley4089 i think bro is not counting the bubble ring which is lame

[@brandoncollins1225]

Shaq said it best, no one is afraid of LeBron. Everyone was afraid of Jordan.

[@Daft0Cean968]

multiple NBA players have said they were scared of Bron

[@JJATX]

Shaq might not be but many are. He's literally a huge bodied dude that can dribble and has speed. Not many players ever in the NBA have the skillset LeBron has for his size. And I'm not even a fan of his. I'm a Kobe fan but I'm also a realist and can call a spade a spade. LeBron haters can't and always bring up Finals losses which is a team accomplishment and ignore all his personal accolades when talking about who's a great PLAYER.

[@gagegrubb102]

kp prayed the night before that soemthing would happen to lebron because he didn’t want to see him in the playoffs😭

[@svturn987]

The greatest team of all time was formed because Steph Curry and Kevin Durant were scared of LeBron. Wtf

[@Rooney-nb1rd]

A lot of players say they were scared of bron so not true

[@fredb1973]

MJ is and always will be the GOAT

[@niels8195]

Hee-hee!

[@MartinAccount]

Always made the greatest songs

[@zachcarter3186]

Wilt the stilt bro

[@Hoopsforlife11]

why just asking to learn

[@user-uv5qr3gc4i]

If you think he always will be then ur mind has been made up and you’ll never think otherwise. A guy so much better than MJ could come along but yall would still ride MJ cuz of nostalgia. It’s not cool to be a stubborn old man stuck in your ways who can’t acknowledge truth. Always will be is hilarious to say

[@shanetaylor7581]

Jordan wasn’t a shill for another country.

[@F00CHs]

“Must be a generational thing” is a perfect response to someone like him

[@teyvang3953]

No... it's not a generational thing, it's a stupidity thing.

[@ofekmizrahi3079]

Fr you ain't no fan if you say LeBron is better,like did he even ever watch mj ?? Isn't it talked about enough who he is ? Even bron would say mj the goat ​@@teyvang3953

[@JunCna]

​@@teyvang3953aaaand you can't detach your emotions and have an intelligent conversation

[@teyvang3953]

@@JunCna yes, yes you can. I have done it with family and friends multiple times. I tell them facts they tell me their facts and we agree and disagree on stuff...

[@oceans6517]

@@teyvang3953yea mj is the gist not lebron

[@codyperry6149]

Kids these days will never understand what the world used to be like.

[@RogerDominguez-de4hj]

I agree. Kids are so ignorant now a days. They are blind to the truth. Jordan accomplished more than lebron did in the time Jordan played. Lebron has been playing for like 30 years now 😅 and he thinks that makes him better cause of stats.

[@onlyjoinedtotroll]

Or the NBA

[@MonkeySpeaker2.0]

@@RogerDominguez-de4hjOr Old Heads try to catch on to their glory days and have too big of egos to admit theirs someone better than their generations guy. The NBA on average is much much MUCH more talented these days. LeBron has infinite better stats than Jordan. LeBron has elevated players better than Jordan. LeBron has yes a 4-6 record in the Finals but with out LeBron half of not most of those teams don’t even make the playoffs. Jordan was 1-9 in playoff series without Scottie Pippen.

[@sumo-ninja]

​@@MonkeySpeaker2.0nope... It was better back then

[@BoinasVerdesAR]

I watched both and I can't pick one, tbh I think it's a very stupid debate ppl should appreciate those 2 and how both of them promote the sport

[@IvanIvanov-tn2iw]

LeBron can't fill MJ shoes.

[@coffinsnail6930]

heck he cant even tie MJs shoe laces

[@likecake]

But Kobe can

[@robertomorales566]

Yes he can. He can go pick up a pair from foot locker 😂

[@feghan]

Actually literally can't... what's the name of Lebrons shoe again? I mean didn't Jordan sponsor PSG?

[@bangforyourbuck101]

Just the sales alone lol...

[@JordanCalifornia27]

#1 MJ #2 Wilt #3 LeBron

[@eddiesolis4376]

MJ. No questions asked.

[@shizzynwa]

I want to be like Mike.

[@finnianschaffer1971]

Michael jackson?

[@elizabethdougherty8]

Couldn’t go left tho

[@novadinero4767]

Magic Johnson retired at 31 let that sink in and tell me who the goat 😭

[@williammatthews2948]

Jordan. Next question.

[@darkking9836]

oldhead

[@futurehendrix2345]

Jordan retired when LeBron came into the league man I wanted to see LeBron bust his azzz and block him so bad

[@brianrhodes1987]

​@@futurehendrix2345lmao MJ trash talking would send LeBum back to the locker room crying his sissy butt off

[@bucklejrjjbg8197]

Right, noone in any sport like Michael Jordan. I don't even care what stats say. We all knew MJ was the best and the goat.

[@Dmoney462]

​@@futurehendrix2345Prime LeBron couldn't even beat Micheal Beasley 1v1 on the heat

[@stedshep]

MJ didn't have social media and was the biggest sports star of the 90's. Imagine if he had that back then 😮

[@sandman_says_runrunner4701]

I agree to a point... though to be honest, I think Social Media actually hurts Stars, not help them. How does the saying go... "Never meet your heroes".

[@michaels7368]

Great great point!!

[@jdeezy885]

I have thought about this a few times.

[@Kennyisamalekaren]

Your right! Imagine social media was a thing when Jordan couldn’t beat larry? Would’ve been getting ripped! Or when he lost in the first round of the playoffs, and had to add Dennis Rodman and another 16ppg foward the year after? Man’s would’ve been the creator of super teams and been ripped!

[@m.j.w.2876]

​@@KennyisamalekarenMJ lost to Larry AND A TEAM FULL OF HALL OF FAMERS. He'd have gotten a pass like LeBron does vs the Warriors and Spurs. And at NO point would he create a super team, that's LeBrons mentality and KD... not MJ

[@skitsotrader141]

The biggest difference... LeBron learned from watching Jordan. Jordan didn't learn from LeBron.

[@JMichaels-qn7pk]

Jordan was the best player defensively. AND OFFENSIVELY. How many other players can say they won that award on both sides of the ball. NONE... His commercial impact with the most recognized shoe in history, which brought more prestige to basketball. Won three in a row. Retired, then came back and won three in a row.

[@CashfrmdaE]

Jordan couldn't even stay in front of guards he put scottie pimpin on em and you telling me lebron who was in his prime guarding centers to the guard positions is crazy

[@melvinhhcp3615]

​@@CashfrmdaEI can tell, you never saw MJ's era in real time. He was a dpoy in the same season that he won mvp. That's nasty work.

[@freddyfortunato7773]

Michael Jordan is the goat of all time. No question

[@jaredrogers7863]

@@CashfrmdaE in an NBA that has no physicality.

[@kenxiong6830]

People flock to buy Jordans. Nobody is flocking to buy Lebron’s shoes.

[@Gargeler]

Generational thing🗿

[@CoryW-h3q]

Who cares?

[@Jarjarfunk]

​@@CoryW-h3qdude said the goat is about influence and Jordan had more influence and still has more influence

[@prosi1337]

@@CoryW-h3qMe when I hear BS, I call out the BS and Michael Jordan’s influence is higher than Lebron by far.

[@CoryW-h3q]

I agree also but bringing the fucking shoes in is stupid. We are talking about them and their talents and accolades. Who gives a shit about the shoes. It muddys the water to an actual debate. My guff was with the shoes being mentioned

[@The1Monty]

This guy came out and asked the real questions

[@BofaMahnuts]

"Lebron made bums look good"..sir Lebron left Cleveland for Miami because he wanted to play with bums?